July 7, 2023

How many glizzies? | Topic Thunder rewind

How many glizzies? | Topic Thunder rewind

In honor of the Fourth of July holiday week – and to make up for the fact that the traditional hot dog eating contest didn’t happen this year – we’re bringing back a classic Topic Thunder episode.

We tackle the question, “How many glizzies could you...

In honor of the Fourth of July holiday week – and to make up for the fact that the traditional hot dog eating contest didn’t happen this year – we’re bringing back a classic Topic Thunder episode.

We tackle the question, “How many glizzies could you eat in 48 hours?” Original episode notes:

Are big bulks or big cuts worth it? Will you get what you want out of them or do they (almost) always go bad? And if you’re on a bulk, how many glizzies can you eat in 48 hours? We throw out some opinions on this and share some ideas about sticking to extreme diets in general.

Dean Saddoris of Caffeine & Kilos joined us in this discussion. You can find Dean on IG @deansaddoris.ck and at caffeineandkilos.com, along with our gym manager, Kyle Castro @kyle.castroo.

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Hey, this is Jim. Since
this is the fourth of July holiday week

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and the traditional hot dog eating challenge
did not occur due to rain, we

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thought we would bring back this episode
from last year of Topic Thunder, where

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we talked about whether to bulk or
cut, but the real question became how

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many glizzies can you eat in forty
eight hours? So this is a fun

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one. Check it out and we'll
be back next week with a regular episode.

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And since the world is hot to
emplace Twitter with a bunch of different

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platforms, you can find both me
and Mike on Threads with our regular handles

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Silent Mike with two k's and the
Jim mcdee. And we'll talk to you

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next week. Oh, I almost
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ten percent off your entire order if
you use the code pod. Also,

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what this health and fitness industry is
turned into on YouTube and Instagram is all

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these people taking copious amounts of steroids
and staying lean all the time. But

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that's not a healthy lifestyle, and
that's not something you can do long term.

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And then are other people that we
follow are the people that do drastic

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ones like Oprah going from three hundred
pounds to a buck forty to three hundred

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pounds. Shouldn't eat solid foods for
three weeks? That's who should we should

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A Let's say hypothetically, I need
two thousand dollars a day. You're doing

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that for three days, then all
of a sudden you're having a full rack

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of beer, and then and then
the next day you're feeling bad about it.

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Now you're eating three slices of celery. You're right, you know how

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many glizzies can you eating? For
you? Glyzzies are not the boy Prepa

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just for a shit podcast or just
slamming wieners. Oh, one of Deans,

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I'm gonna put them on blast.
This is one of your old ones.

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Send it. How manna glyzzies can
you eat? Oh? And that

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dude we just warned up that's one
of your topics? How many glizzies can

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you eat? Really? Right?
Dean? Is that already wrote? He

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did? You unk? Not right? That your kids steal your phone?

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Your kids? Did your kids steal
your phone? It's been a show.

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You just fucking wasted in forty eight
hours to be specific, Dean Goy Texas

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hours. Dean's hammered, drunk,
just text enough. That's really thought out.

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That's a pretty good cut off.
Twenty four We're not quite sure.

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Twenty four unlimited forty eight that's pretty
good, dude. Oh my god,

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it was a bit. I've forgotten
about it. We're like, you know,

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I didn't even write it. We're
like fitness lifting. How many fucking

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cat talks? Three hot dogs at
once? I would have hot dogs eat

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in forty eight hours. Oh,
ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to topic.

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No bust it up. We're with
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Jim mcdee and the one and only
Kyle. Do you like your last

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name on the internet? Some people
are weird. You let him know Castro.

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You know what you're Castro because that's
my last name. You've got gas,

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baby, I'm moving Gastro after all
those Glizzies A spoiler and up to

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the mound. Kyle Gastro, more
mask more gass more gas Gastro and he

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comes to the sick. Dude,
that would be good if you played in

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Mexico. No, remember when my
teammates are Dominican. Yeah, remember when

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what's his name Kenny Powers goes to
Mexico and he's bounding down. That what

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made me think of it. That's
Kyle's dream as my buddy. My buddy

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has a whole quad tattoo of Kenny
Powers. If I don't, don't blame

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if I played pro baseball, I
would. Yeah, so you're saying I

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have to get Kenny Powers. I've
been going to rewatch all those. I've

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been watching the new show that rides
Gemstones, and it's as this is the

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best show, almost equivalent to Oh
it's funny. It's oh my god,

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I've never Oh it's good, we
should watch you like it? It's oh,

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I know, yeah, we'll watch
it. Watch it. I never

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watched He's Bounding Down. Oh you're
I don't love suck up. There's a

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lot of shows that aren't funny,
especially nowadays, but East Bounding Down is

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one of the last series that I
was like this, sh it's funny,

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all right, what's the topic?
Dude? Cutting in bulking a lot of

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people ask about cutting a bulking,
whether it's healthy for you, should you

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do it? I literally received a
question from a friend recently on it um

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how to do it? When to
do it? Uh? And is like

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bulking even healthy? But I think
a lot of it comes down to definition.

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But maybe just share your experiences,
what you've done. And the truth

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is, I've cut a few times, but I've only really like purposely bulked

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once. And that's actually if we
want to bring up a whole other topic,

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maybe we can do it next,
like our biggest fitness mistakes that I

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just didn't allow myself to grow when
I should have been growing. Yeah,

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I agree with that. From an
audio standpoint, I'd like to apologize to

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everyone because there's a there's a fucking
harvester outside or something. I don't know

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what it is, but I'm hearing
it like so loud that I don't know.

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I'm sorry I was killing all your
oranges out back. I thought it

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was my u tonitis. Oh yeah, well that I have that too,

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and why don't we all have that? I think it's Mine's from my base

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sound system in high school where I
just destroy my ears. Yeah, I

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played drums forever and I'm just like, why would I why why was I

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doing that as a kid, idiot? Just what it is so bulking cutting?

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Yeah, I think it can be
can be good within a parameter,

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and like some people are never gonna
get very much muscle unless they're willing to

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over eat and get a little fat
for a while. Sure, so they

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can train and recover and shit,
but like there's got to be a practical

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limit to it. What I mean, Well, when I brought that up

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to and I never talked about it, I think publicly is an age factor.

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Like if you're sixty and you're trying
to like bulk for like that,

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is that muscle important or should we
probably should probably just eat maintenance and get

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some resistance training for you to gain
forty pounds as a twenty year old in

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college. Even if a good amounts
fat, it's not that big of a

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deal. Like I don't suggest it
and probably isn't best for muscle or general

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if you're training. If you're training, you're not going to put on a

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ton of fat no matter how much
you're eating. If you're training hard every

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day. I don't know, man, you haven't hung out with enough.

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But I'm talking like a college athlete
or something. I guess maybe even a

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parlip though I guess too, like, no, you can think I think

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I think it's I think it's paraly
thing is because it's I know, it's

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like I think way o things a
little different because you actually are getting like

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pretty worked up. I think weightlifting, I would say, is a little

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different. Um. And then I
was eating. Genetics play a big role,

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and genetics actually play less of a
role in how many calories you can

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intake, which most people say like
I gotta high metabolism. I got a

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little metabolism. You don't. The
variance is actually very little. The variance

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in genetics is is more how much
food you can take and you're satiating levels.

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Some people like me and college eat
the same meal and be like fuck,

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I'm full as well. Wasn't that
meal huge? Not to be like

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man, I thought that was an
appetizer. Um. And whether that's mental,

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genetical, whatever, it's just how
people are triggered differently. Lepton and

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all these things not gremlin. Uh
yeah, probably have a big role in

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it, um, because I think
you can't. I think you can definitely

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get out of shape. And even
if you're just wanting to be a bodybuilder,

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right, like ten minutes on the
treadmills. Not gonna deal with that.

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A lot of my suggestions on the
bowl is to keep cardio in.

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That's another common question. Should you
do cardio during bulk and if you really

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really struggle to gain weight, depending
again on your age bracket and you're I'm

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talking to healthy individuals, um I
would keep cardio in. You're not gonna

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burn off what's the snickers three hundred
sixty cows? Yeah, that's walking three

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miles up hill. If you walk
three miles up hill, you'll just burn

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that Snickers off. So like the
cardio is not gonna lose your gains,

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you shouldn't have ate that entire baget
ships last, it's just good hell well

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kind of ships. You know those
uh tehrans, like the ones that are

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like the vegetables, you know what
I'm talking about, like the little like

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slices. But then they have a
new one that's like a flaming hot version

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of that. That's probably good.
It's they're fire. The truth is,

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like all that shit, it's not
healthy. They just dumped and oiled,

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but they taste good. That's a
health food. That actually tastes like it's

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your fire. What is it,
Tarrant, I'm talking about the black bag,

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tu. I think it's longer than
that, is it? It's a

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potato chip, right, isn't turo
or something? They're a potato. They're

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like different potatoes and like different like
vegetables that are sliced into like bult But

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that's just me. I don't know. No, I think the name that

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you're saying, or that we're trying
to think of, is a different name

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for like a root or a potato. They're like there's like like some kind

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of random shit in there. Yeah, there's like a sweet potato chip in

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there, and there's like another yeah, talking about the same thing. Yeah,

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I'm just trying to think of the
root of the name. I don't

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know. They're fire though. They
have a new hot one that just came

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out and I had to try it. Your boy two bags of those over

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the weekend. How many? How
many percentage of cuts and bulks do you

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think fail all of them? Most? No, don't like in the amount

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of time, like let's say they're
doing like a three month all over whatever.

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You think they're failing A bulk sounds
fine until you start doing it.

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Cut, No, I think I
think majority of people fail. They don't

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stay considered enough yea. And they
don't fail by application, they fail by

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consistency. Because you do you have
to do like three to six months of

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a of a moderate cut and a
moderate bulk to make real changes. Yeah,

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because if you do that fast,
like you try to bulk too fast,

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you do two weeks, then you
burn yourself out. You're like,

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damn, dude, I just can't
eat that much. Or same with a

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cut and you're like, dude,
I need you to drop thirty pounds.

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I'm gonna do it. And in
six weeks and then you cut too much

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and then you end up binging because
you cut too much. Now you're hungry.

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Shit. Yeah, I ate forty
pizzas in thirty days. I ate

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one hundred glizzies in forty eight hours. Well, we're not really sure whether

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or not the like metabolic changes actually
happen. I mean people talking about the

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yeah that like, oh, I
you know, damaged my metabolism, my

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cutting forever and whatever whatever like that
part. They're they're pretty sure, but

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that's an extreme case. Yeah.
Yeah, if you starve yourself, you

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will have some metabol damage. But
that's on the margins. I mean it's

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on the extreme, yeah, for
sure. But people do that that.

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I would say it's in the extreme
of normal because like it's not just he

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need competitors. Think of how many
people are large in America right, we

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have fifty percent of obesity rate still, um, and how many of those

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people are doing a cucumber fast for
fucking three weeks? Yeah that because because

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fucking because yeah, because Oprah's telling
us to do it, you know.

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Yeah, TikTok too. I still
see the up because of her way.

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It's always been real stable. Yeah, that's my leader. I mean it

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has. I mean that's the truth. Like being naturally stably fit is so

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rare and so hard, um and
not to have in a whole another topic,

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but like that's also what this health
and fitness industry has turned into on

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YouTube and Instagram is all these people
taking copious amounts of steroids and staying lean

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all the time. But that's not
healthy lifestyle and that's not something you can

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do long term. And then are
other people that we follow are the people

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that do drastic ones, like Oprah
going from three hundred pounds to a buck

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forty to three hundred pounds. You
shouldn't eat solid foods for three weeks.

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That's who should We should also not
follow, And so all the people feeding

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us this information are people that And
I don't necessarily think you have to be

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the the epitome of health to teach
health. You have the knowledge, but

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it is good when you can back
it up with good, consistent knowledge.

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But yeah, being being consistent and
these small waves is so much better off.

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And for the majority of people listening
that haven't actually like put on a

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ton of muscle or gotten really shredded, eating app maintenance and training your tits

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off is probably your best option.
Yeah, yeah, because you can kind

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of recomp if if you haven't trained
forever, even even I've trained ten years,

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I've trained twenty years. I did
the math the other day so embarrassing.

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I started trying on seventh grade.
Bro, I've been in the gym

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for twenty years and I look like
this. You guys want to, Yeah,

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question my nattiness now people used to
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not anymore like shit haus and change. But do that and if I even

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now, if I if I just
do slight bulk slight cuts, you can

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make a world of difference. True. Yeah, I mean also come down

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to most people just aren't eating enough
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the coin. For sure, most
people learning enough to lose weight, and

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most people arening enough to gain weight. You're kind of like in this like

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false middle ground that you just don't
know what you're doing or so insistent where

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you're like, let's say, hypothetically
I need two thousand collars a day.

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You're doing that for three days,
then all of a sudden you're having a

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full rack of beer, and then
and then the next day you're feeling bad

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about it. Now you're eating three
slices of celery. You're right, you

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know how many glizzies can you?
Eating? Forty glizzies? Are not the

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bull just for a shit podcast or
just slamming Wieners. I like to do

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the Yeah, just cold. We
know you can like just kind of inhale

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it, inhale them down like shooting
straight, shut the stomach, break them

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down. Baby. Yeah, we
got snob a gaps for a reason.

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Why you're talking like a car too. Yeah, So if we were just

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say like ten percent, no more
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your body weight to gain or lose. It doesendingem like a reasonable band.

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It depends where you start. But
yeah yeah probably yeah unless you're already super

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overweight. Yeah ten percent. Yeah
yeah, if you're super overweight. Um.

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And then the other thing is bulks
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but be fucking consistent. Don't don't
do good, do a good three to

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six months. Nobody wants to hear
that wants to do that. The hardest

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thing I want to do. Bulking
and cutting are difficult, But the hardest

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thing is actually maintenance. It really
is difficult to eat maintenance. Yeah,

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no matter the genetic, no matter
the input. I've heard somebody even like

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recently talk about how they wanted to, you know, like get on like

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you know, proper nutrition and stuffing, like, yeah, but I don't

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really want to. I don't want
to weigh anything, and I want to

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really like track anything. Yeah.
Okay, well then you're not gonna get

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results. Yeah, that's literally we
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actually order you have a YouTube video
plan on on different brackets of and I

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always say, like, how strict
your goal is depends or will decide how

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strict you're eating needs to be right. You need to step on stage.

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You need to track every fucking gram. It's just has to happen. But

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if you want to lose ten pounds, if you just got a little fluffy

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over COVID, you want to lose
ten pounds, we can broaden that eight

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ounces of chick up and a half
of rice. Let's let's do an eight

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ounce serving of some kind of green
vegetable and do that three four times a

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day. Yeah. The biggest issue
with eyeballing, and I am a big

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eyeball fan for the majority of people, is that people don't even have a

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clue our nutrition in schools bad.
I do suggest most people track in way

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everything. If you never have for
six months, say like a like a

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like a normal average fist size about
eight ounces of chicken. Yeah, it's

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about a serving a chicken. Yeah, had a big fift. Well for

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you, though you need more notices
your fist is to you, you know

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what I mean, that's not much
you need. Another decent way is just

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to get thirty to fifty grams of
protein every single meal and make the protein

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the focus your meal. You eat
three to four times a week or excuse

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me, three to four times a
day, and you're gonna be in that.

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There's just no way. I'm like
currently in my current like you know,

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like half ass like training style,
Like you're there a point in my

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life where I'm even getting remotely enough
protein. Most people probably getting like half

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of what I need, right,
most people don't. And I know that.

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That's why I bought those shakes.
Dude. Yeah, yeah, I

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honestly, you have to go get
some at this. But it's possible.

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It's hard, but it has to
be a conscious decision like everything else,

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right, if you're making a conscious
And the truth is, if you're making

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a conscious decision and going to the
gym, which is more fun for most

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people, um, you might as
well really tighten it up if you want

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to se the results. It's just
the truth, and it sucks. And

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I was that guy when I was
eighteen, googling and everything, and all

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the ogs are telling me like,
forget your supplements, forget this, track

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your food, track your workouts and
you'll be good, And I said,

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fuck you, I don't want that. Where's the quick pass? What supplement

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do I gotta take? But it
is the truth. You get your sleep

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in you get your food consistency is
going to be the number one and that

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has to go for the six months, the three months down to the week,

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down of the day, eat at
the exact same times. You don't

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have to eat the exact same thing. I understand it gets boring, but

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if you can eat the exact same
things, because then you only have to

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measure in a way once. Yeah, I mean, and also it's like,

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yeah, you just I think it's
like I think for me personally,

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if I to like give example of
what helps me personally is I just got

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to make sure there's that one day
of the week where I cook at least

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like two or three different types of
meat. Yeah, and then I'm good,

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Yeah the meat. If you cook
one type of meat that one day,

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this is like it's even hard to
just do while you're cooking and prepping.

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But like I feel like for me, it was the easiest to doing

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trying to do three meats in one
day. That way, like I'm set

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up where I'm not gonna get bored
of something. I'm gonna like go off

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track because I'm tired of eating chicken
or I'm tired of eating steak or I'm

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tiring, so like now I have
like an option every day. No,

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I'm the same way best for me
would really help me Eating chicken breast seven

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days a week. You're you're going
to give up because it is bad.

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You're gonnaly try so many different hot
sauces. Yeah, barbecues ain't saving it.

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Yeah, I ain't saving it.
Uh. Ladies and gentlemen writing review,

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be sure to share this thing.
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