Is porn addiction real?

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My dad's best friend, Uncle Bob. Shout out. Uncle Bob brought his

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son out cause I think he just
graduated high school or maybe college, I

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don't know what. But it was
kind of like, you know, dad's

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son trip or something. And I
knew him, but I didn't know him

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that well because a lot of times
he was obviously in school, and then

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my uncle Bob would just like come
over to our family's place in Cleveland.

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So that's why I knew Uncle Bob
so well. But his son might even

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played college, might even played minors
for a second, but he was pretty

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good at baseball. And then he
had a goal to go, and I

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think he was already like halfway done
to every major league stadium and buy a

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hat, go to the game and
buy a hat. And so then I,

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like low key start did it,
but not very strategic. I was

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trying to do it with basketball,
but it was more without like purpose.

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It was when I fell into it. Like me and Omar were in Toronto

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and we finished up filming. I
says, I don't know, probably seven

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years ago, enshed up filming,
and I just randomly had gotten alert and

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I was like, oh fuck,
dude, like it's a playoff game here

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in Toronto. So I bought tickets
for whatever, one hundred bucks and the

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nosebleeds and went to that shit.
But I think all that's cool, especially

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like I guess football too, probably, although I just I love football,

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but I just don't go to that
many live games for some reason. It

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just feels like too much, almost
like baseball games feel casual, Like,

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dude, it's so long. You
can show up late, you can leave

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early. You know, it's just
not that big of a deal. We're

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like football, there's so many people
and shit, it would be cool to

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do like a nationwide tour of maybe
even both. You might be able to

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hit both if you go in the
spring. That'd be kind of crazy,

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right because baseball has already started this
week last week. Yeah, so you

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could hit an NBA game and an
MLB game per city abouts around. That'd

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be fun. Yeah, we're we
were talking off air that the fam and

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I are going to be in New
York City in July and actually June and

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July, parts of June, parts
of July, and we're gonna, you

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know, we're just looking to take
the grand kids for a baseball game because

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they haven't well, like one of
them has been to a major League game,

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but he was tiny. Yeah,
yeah, so he wouldn't remember.

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And they're nine and six now,
so yeah, they'll start to they're with

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it there. I feel like six
is the age kind of with it.

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I'm not a dad, but I
feel like six his age, like they're

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gonna remember this ship like ship really
is like meaningful. They can talk,

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you can like really talk. Yeah, yeah, no, I think that.

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I think the younger one is gonna
gonna remember it. I don't know,

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he's not is into baseball as the
older one. The older one is

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is he's all about it. Yes, And sometimes I feel like going to

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that stuff makes you that way though. Yeah, I think it definitely can.

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Like I was in the Monster Trucks
just because we went to trucks.

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Yeah, yeah, I'd do it. Yeah. And so like Mets City

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Field, what made you choose out
over the Yankees schedule schedule? Yeah,

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the only yeah, the only Yankees
game that would have worked would have been

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the day after we got there,
and that's and and a night game,

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and that's for kids. You just
don't want to do that. Ed and

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grumpy. Yeah, I mean this
this is a this is an afternoon game.

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It's a one to forty games,
so it you know, it's fun

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on a Sunday, so it makes
sense. So anyway, I'm looking at

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tickets, and the place that we
kind of normally sit anywhere we go is

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is just kind of on the field
level, usually on the third base side,

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sometimes on the first base side.
It's kind of depending, but not

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any usually any higher than that,
and you're usually you know, they can

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be expensive, but they're not crazy
expensive. But the Mets, it was

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like two hundred bucks a seat which
was in the that section, and that

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wasn't even like right on the dugout. It was it was further outfield from

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that. I do wonder why.
I don't know. Yeah, I don't

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know why. And then like those
same seats are they playing the Yankees Astros?

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Yeah, yeah, maybe right's been
bawling. Yeah, I mean yeah,

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I just don't know. I don't
know if they do. I don't

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know at this point of the season
they're doing like dynamic pricing or I have

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no idea. So yeah, so
we're going up up a level and to

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the first base side, and those
are seventy which is you know, considerable,

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but in San Francisco, the same
seats that I was looking at their

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two hundred bucks in New York or
fifty five bucks. And that isn't even

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the secondary market. I mean,
yeah, you're playing way ahead, Yeah,

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way ahead. Yeah, this is
like yeah in June, like eight

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June, June twenty ninth or thirtyth
something like that. Yeah, and it's

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a good amount of head Yeah.
Yeah, it's just just crazy expensive.

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I don't I don't get it.
I don't understand why it's so much more

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expensive. Although the mess have like
a gigantic payroll. I think they have

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the biggest payroll. But the Giants
this year too, they spent money finally

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they they were their subject to the
luxury tax this year. But even that's

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like first time in a while.
That's like dumb business, Like you jack

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your prices up when you're winning now
based on what you you spend. Yeah,

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yeah, because you signed a bunch
of duds for a lot of money.

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No one's gonna come watching it.
But Padres have been spending your fortunate

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and have not really gotten much traction
off that, you know. Yeah,

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the you know, first round out
is that is the best they've done in

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a while. So I've been to
the Padres Stadium is a pet Co now,

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okay, yeah I was there.
Uh I think it was Tony Gwynn's

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retirement day. Oh wow, yeah, just randomly. Yeah, I feel

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like you always have to know people. So like my my family in Cleveland

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doesn't make a ton of money by
any means, less than a ton of

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money, way less than a ton
of money. And for some reason,

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and obviously the Indians fucking suck,
not not always, but guardiansyah, yeah,

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yeah, the Guardians. Yeah,
the Indians U And so like we'd

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always end up with sick tickets somehow, yeah, just because like I don't

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know, my aunt worked in office. In that office has somebody or she

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knows somebody. You just always know
people, especially I feel like in cities

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like that because it's so like old
family esque. Yeah you know what I

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mean. Where California is a little
different. A lot of people moved here,

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families have been there for generations.
So she knows somebody with season tickets

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that she could get them from.
So we sit in like was it like

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club level where you're getting served,
you know, and there's no way we're

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paying for that. Like my dad
couldn't afford it. No way my aunts

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could. But you see, you
gotta know, folks. The only thing

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I never went to a Browns game
because they weren't a team for half my

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fucking life. And then I read
something though about their stadium. I forgot

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what it was. I don't want
to misquote despite the name of the podcast,

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but I think people were saying it
was like one of the better stadiums

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because it's on the water. It's
kind of like the Giants stadium. Yeah,

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because it is on like a lake. Yeah. Live sports are cool,

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man. I feel like it's not
something like a lot of people who

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aren't into sports go do. But
it same with like live music. Some

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people just don't like try it.
But there's something special about both of them.

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There really is. I don't really
care if you like sports or not.

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Like I don't love baseball, but
I'll go to a live baseball any

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day. Yeah, you know,
there's some about it. There's some about

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it. Well, the speaking more
more baseball news. But this actually may

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be old news by the time this
comes out. But it's supposed to be

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decided today where the A's are going
to play next year and three years.

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How does the Sacramento bid look decent. It's the top right now. That's

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exciting. Yeah, it's it's I
mean, got some inside information on this

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and that was confirmed by some stuff
that was in the b today. But

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it looks like maybe. It looks
like maybe, but it also looks like

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the it's Las Vegas still may not
happen. Really yeah, long, yeah,

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but well the reason the reason that
because because Oakland just made a bid

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too to keep the A's for the
interim for the next three and because of

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the fan boycotts and they've totally empty
seats most of the time. It just

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looks terrible. Yeah, and just
the the the general bad juju between the

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team and the city of Oakland.
MLB doesn't want the A's to stay there

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at all. Sure, well,
what's the second option long term? I

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don't know. I bet you it's
Vegas. It'll go through. There's just

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so much money pumping in that city. It's going crazy. Yeah, maybe

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so, but there's you know what
I mean. The mayor is opposed,

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although she doesn't really have any Oakland
mayor. No, the Vegas, Vegas

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mayor is opposed. Yeah, really, I know why because everything else has

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done so well, just the money
I think, I think the money going

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into it, and that's like it's
not as though the owners of the a's

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don't have money. Yeah, well, I just because obviously hockey's been going

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crazy there. They want Stanley cups
on Stanley cups. The Raiders have done,

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okay, but the T Mobile Arena
where the UFC and the hockey.

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Yeah, I just explored that area
for the first time. I driven by

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it, but I see it from
the freeway, Like I don't really go

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to the strip, you know,
And I know that sounds like a gatekeepy

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local thing to say, but you
just don't list you're gonna go get food.

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So we did. We went to
Italy, yeah, which is right

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next to it all, and they
built up that section of the strip to

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be so like nice and like classy, like it feels so good by the

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T Mobile to hockey Arena and whatever, and basically the baseball arena's plans are

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across the street from that where the
Tropic Canna is, okay, and so

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like it would mesh so perfectly,
and there's just no way. I mean,

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maybe it's just me, but like
if I'm going to Vegas on a

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dude strip or whatever the fuck Bachelor
and you just like look on your phone,

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like, oh, the A's are
in town tonight, Like you're gonna

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buy a ticket. You're gonna buy
like a fifty buck take he go sick,

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go get drunk because you're walking to
it on the strip, Like it

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makes so much sense. Something randomly
that was announced this morning too, is

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like they're breaking down the Tropic Cano, which is one of the oldest hotels

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there, and that's the future plans
for the arena. But behind that,

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they're like, I don't know,
because Vegas it's social media, so they

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like, you know, pump the
news story for like steroids and like make

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it so fantast but they basically sound
like they're trying to make like a man

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made like like beach ocean there behind
it it's okay, And I like in

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Vegas, I kind of believe it. You know, like two years ago,

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Bart was sending me articles about Mark
Wahlberg opening a Hollywood. They just

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broke round on that, you know, like they they are moving like crazy

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because of the money. So I
do wonder why the Mayor's so opposed.

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Yeah, and I think it's I
think there's a subsidy. But I think

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it's from the legislature actually, not
the not the city. So that's why

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she doesn't have any control. Oh
yeah, yeah, I think that that's

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I bet she has no control anyways. Probably, you know, like when

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you think of casino money, like, she's just probably she's just hanging on.

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She's just the face. Yeah,
she's just hanging on doing what they

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say, trying to keep them happy. That's your job. Yeah, yeah,

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pretty much. It's just like heep, yeah, just you know,

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we need your tax money for sure. We're not doing tax money, you

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know, on the same level.
Yeah, no one is. No one

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in the world is. Yeah,
So I don't know. We'll see,

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we'll see what happened. Kings or
Sacrament would be fun, it'd be really

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cool. I think it'd be cool
for the city. I remember the fucking

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river Cats came here and how big
of a deal that was. Yeah,

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and it's still a big deal.
And now now the river Cats are owned

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by by the King's ownership. Oh
I didn't know that. Yes, And

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there's I mean in the paper today, I actually heard this rumor and then

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confirmed in the paper that that the
Kings might be interested in because there because

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the owner of the main owner of
the Kings, you know, run a

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dve and the owner of the A's
are friends and have like I've been for

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lunch. There's a there's a potential
for the King's ownership to buy the A's.

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If they did that, then they
would not be going to Vegas.

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That would be silly. Another thing
to the maloofs. They were in half

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their empire in Vegas. Yeah,
but see what happened there though, They

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stopped spending on the team at some
point. Maybe basketball is a little different

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though, because like what you spent
on the team so limited. It's much

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different than baseball is literally like how
big are your pockets? I think that

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too because you were talking about hockey. The hockey there is exploded. But

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that was an expansion team. It
was the The Raiders have done okay,

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but that the Raiders have been moving
around like a fucking chess piece, right,

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that's why it's hard since the eighties, seventies, I don't know before

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Yeah, yeah, they've been everywhere. Yeah, they've been all over the

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place that they wouldn't maybe have been
better off with an expansion team. And

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I think that that's probably true of
baseball. Yeah, I don't know when

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the last time the NFL expanded,
though it's been a minute. Yeah,

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and it might have been like the
Rams in them in the eighties. Yeah,

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and then why is it I mean
basketball, it's planned the next expansion

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there there's the contract is like giant
for like the players union or something.

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There's some giant contract that's supposed to
get done in these next two years.

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And then he's already said they're base
going to expand in twenty twenty six,

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twenty twenty eight, and it's almost
guaranteed it'll be Seattle in Vegas. Yeah,

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Seattle. I could see Seattle was
pissed, Yeah, having lost Yeah,

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their team too. Yeah. I
don't know the next expansion around that

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too, even though they might have
called Oklahoma and expansion for some reason because

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something else may be moved obviously was
the Sonics at the same time. Yeah,

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yeah, I don't know when they
expanded either, but yeah, I

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think they're going to add a couple
a couple more. I don't know.

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Expanding a league like that, like
scaling any business is so hard, but

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an expansion team is like probably so
difficult in the back end numbers to figure

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out when it's time to do that. Well, I mean part of the

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thing too with an expansion team is
like all of the existing team ownership gets

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money. Yeah, but don't you
have like, at least in the NBA.

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I think you chalk up like two
players. Oh yeah, yeah,

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there's like a yeah you know,
a rule five draft is what they call

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it. And yeah one of the
sports. No, I don't know,

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yeah, but basically yeah, you
you you have to expose a couple of

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players too. Yeah that's scary.
But then the money, yeah, the

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money aspect, Like what if you
just don't sell tickets? Yeah yeah,

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well like Tampa Bay, they don't
sell tickets. Uh football, yeah,

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tom, baseball either, Yeah,
they've never heard about their days they do.

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Football has done okay lately. Yeah, football has done okay, but

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but baseball has not done great.
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and I think they do good,
which makes no sense. I don't

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follow hockey like that, but like, I don't know, and obviously it's

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an indoor sports. Who gives a
ship? But when you think about Tampa

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Bay, yeah, I'm not thinking
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right, the idea of going to
see hockey and obviously there's fans everywhere.

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so then you go watch it.
If you grew up in Tampa Bay,

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you're not thinking about hockey now once. Even Sacramento. Yeah, right,

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Like Sacramento is way icier than Tampa
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Yeah, you know it is.
It is an interesting business. The

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Kings, the King's A's thing is
interesting though. I mean, I think

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a pro league could probably or a
pro team could probably hang here and arguably

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better than Oakland. Maybe better than
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Yeah, you know the history that
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since eighties. No, yeah,
no, well it's a part of it

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is you're not spend any money and
money ball only works so far. Moneyball

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will get you in maybe the first
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very well. Yeah. And I
think another big issue is just culture of

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the West Coast kind of like we
were talking before, like there's so many

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transplants that like to be like a
diehard A's fan. Yeah, Like how

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many people are born and raised generally
generationally in Oakland, Probably not that much.

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Yeah, you know what I mean, you're either going to try to

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move out or you're gonna try to
go to the Bay. You know,

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you're wiggling around. We're like,
I'm telling you, Like Cleveland, even

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Vegas, I am surprised how many
signs there are mostly hockey, but like

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every car's got a night sticker on
it. In Cleveland, you literally can't

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drive by a house in the suburbs
without an Indian's Browns House state Like they're

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everywhere. Every single house has a
sign on it, you know. Like

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my aunt, like she listens to
every game on the radio, Like it's

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crazy. You know, they're they're
about it. They're about it, and

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you just don't get that out here
for college or pro. The Kings fans

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are pretty good. Kings fans are
pretty good. But it's not like that.

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Yeah, I think too that,
like we're talking about expansion versus relocation

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a team. Relocation is a little
bit like adopting a teenager. It's hard.

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It's it's hard. Nobody knows exactly
how to respond. That's why it

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hasn't gone crazy with the Raiders,
everyone thinks because like, yeah, the

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Raiders are just like a travel team, you know, they've been. They've

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been in four cities in the last
four decades. Yeah, and their fan

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base is like mostly LA people.
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it, which is crazy and so
like, yeah, they just don't care.

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They just haven't like adopted them yet. But if they win some games

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and if they like show they're there
a while, you know, maybe the

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Rams got some love in Saint Louis
and they have another team that traveled everywhere.

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Yeah, you know, now they're
back in LA and they're probably getting

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a little bit of love the Chargers
in LA too. Everything's yeah, there's

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a lot of movement for how much
money that is now that we're just a

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news reporting show. I saw that, Yeah, I saw it. So

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we when I'm in fucking like high
school might have been when I was eighteen,

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it was like my first voting experience. We're voting for the bullet train,

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right San franci or Sacramento to San
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vote that man, take my five
cents. You know, I don't give

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a shit. That still like literally
hasn't happened. It's from like Merced to

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like Bakersfield. Even if even if
yeah, a couple of years. It

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agoes. Yeah, and that was
so that was state funded, in state

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run right program. Yeah, they
just announced which is it is fucking genius,

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and it does make me think there's
puppet masters going out there. They're

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going, uh San Diego to Seattle
bullet train in the next two years to

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get ready for the World Cup and
the future Olympics, because what's the Olympics

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twenty thirty, twenty twenty eight it's
la I think, and then the World

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Cups twenty twenty six. And so
they're trying to go Vegas, which I

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think it's an arena. San Francisco
gets arena. They announced a schedule.

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We should fucking buy tickets, is
what we should do. I'm trying to

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see Messy by chance that he comes, but they're going, uh, I

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think they said three and a half
hours. Good lord, bull it train,

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which makes me thinking that so fast. Yeah, it makes me think

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that there's no stop. Yeah,
maybe right, it might be direct and

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you're probably going, yeah three D
moss Prower, you're just screaming, yeah.

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If there's no stop and they go
through like the central part for the

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majority of it. Sually, I
don't know any about to think anything about

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this at all. Yeah, yeah, I just saw yesterday wow, which

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is crazy, the La one or
the Yeah, which is whatever, because

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it's like Rancho Cucamugga. It's still
better than nothing. To Vegas has already

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been digging. You can see it
on the freeways, and I think it's

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gonna run in between the freeways,
which is kind of easy. Makes sense.

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The path's already drawn, and then
they showed the h and then it

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lands you, I think, in
the strip, which is cool, and

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the train station looks all fair and
see it's nice. It doesn't really make

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sense that we haven't tried that nichtionwide. Well, yeah, we abandoned so

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much of it as the problem.
Yeah, like we walked away from and

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then recreating it is super expensive,
and especially like any any you know,

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civic project in sure across a fortune. Yeah, the hoops, you got

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to jump through your zone, zoning
or whatever. But there's powerful folks,

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you know. I would just think
like some trillionaire would go to Amtrak say

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like, hey, let's like just
replace your shit. Yeah right, Like

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it's literally just old tech, yeah
pretty much, and you could just haul

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ass. I mean imagine you get
from Sacramento to Boston in ten hours.

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Yeah, right, you make it
one hundred bucks or whatever. The ship

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yeah, like well, and I
mean last last summer we went from our

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late spring early summer went from you
know, London to Paris in all over

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two hours. It's so normal,
Yeah, super normal. Everyone just does

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it. It's just the whole infrastructure, the rail infrastructure in that part of

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Europe is just outstanding compared to anything
that we can do here. Yeah.

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I've done New York to Boston and
it was through Madison Square Garden Station or

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whatever. So that was cool and
that was convenient, but it wasn't that

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fast. Yeah, it's not super
fast. And then then and the it

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was pretty convenient because it does dump
you downtown to downtown and the seats are

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nice and ship like that. But
like, yeah, it makes no sense

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to me. Yeah, I think
we're going to do either New York to

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Boston, New York to Philly.
At the end of this New York trip,

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I think that train's good too.
Afhilly to New York and then even

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like a DC ish, I think
you can all get to the kind of

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like Square via train. I think
they're doing a bullet don't quote me,

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but I think they might be trying
to do one from like Dallas to Houston

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too. That would be interesting.
That's the article I saw. It's like

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up and coming bullet trained projects.
And I think they're all private because that's

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the only way you're gonna get it
done. Yeah, it's they're gonna be

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expensive, for sure. That's the
expensive to actually get on. That's the

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back end of the Vegas one.
Like their rumored to like charge three hundred

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bucks a ticket and like no one's
gonna buy that. Yeah, that's a

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little more expensive than the flight.
The flight's the same call. Yeah,

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cheaper cost and quicker and it drives
four hours. Isn't that crazy? Like

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you're gonna have to wiggle that to
get some demand. But yeah, in

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the future maybe, I don't know. If you're if you're in another country,

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it makes more sense to con where
you're going and where you're doing.

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It's easier to let somebody else do
the driving. So it's true, true,

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Yeah, but how do you not
do one on the West Coast when

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our cities line up literally perfectly?
Yeah? Right, you go San Diego,

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La sac and San fran Portland,
Seattle. Yeah, if they could

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have run it, ran bullet trained
along with I five. When they built

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I five, that would have made
sense. Literally it would have looked like

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a Disneyland monorail. But still yeah, yeah, considering the time that it

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was built. Yeah, but if
you're going, yeah, three hundred miles

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per hour, bless you. Yeah, you're just with him, It just

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makes a lot of sense. Yeah, same idea. You think about tourism,

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let alone, like every day folks
that could commute, every day folks

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could have literal jobs anywhere. But
then yeah, you're from Europe and you

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flat to San Diego. You could
visit the entire West Coast in one trip.

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To visit the US seems so hard
if you're not from here, Yeah,

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and the like where do you start? And people from either even people

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from other parts of the of the
country think that California is like sure easy

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to get around in and it's not. Yeah, no, it's impossible.

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And and you know, La and
Sacramento are not close to each other.

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Yeah yeah, I mean even in
San Francisco and Sacramento. Like, if

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you're like from Europe or something,
like, what are you gonna do.

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You're gonna run a car, You're
gonna run an uber you can train.

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Yeah, and even that's a bit
because you gotta take buses in between and

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trash to get city to city.
I think you can go straight on the

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train. The last time I did, you couldn't. Really, Yeah it

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was a while ago. But yeah, you got you get dumped off in

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like Oakland Dish, then you gotta
take a bus, then you gotta go

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bart Yeah. Yeah, it's just
annoying. Yeah, caltrain train maybe.

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Yeah, there's definitely a couple of
hoppers in between. We're stupid because we're

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an hour away. They're the big
buses right now too. Yeah. Yeah,

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buses are kind of outdated too,
Like I get that it's crazy affordable,

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but yeah, the new ones are
actually supposed to be pretty nice,

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like Wi Fi and they're cleaning and
all that stuff, and they're not charging

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that much. No, they're cheap, they're cheap. But yeah, but

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but also you have to know about
those things. Yeah, you got to

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look into the travel guides and all
that kind of stuff, figure out where

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to and they'll take forever. Yeah
that fast, it's that fast bus takes

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for for sure. You can't take
a helicopter and we don't have flying cars

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yet, so soon you had giant
drones. Yeah, you had drone buses.

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Yeah. So something that I just
wanted to throw out here today was

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this article that I got pointed to
something else that I was reading Free the

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Hub about, Uh, people talk
about porn addiction. I'm addicted to porn

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or I was addicted to Free the
Hubby pervs. It isn't You're not a

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thing. You're just a sicko.
It isn't a thing. It's just sicko.

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Studies have shown that it isn't a
thing. I wonder how that relates

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to sex addiction. I don't.
I think that there's a good possibility that

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sex edition also addiction also does not
exist. But I'm just human. People

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poor an addiction. Just human,
Yeah, I was. This is an

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article from psychologist Just Human trying to
Procreate from twenty eighteen, So not new.

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This is like and I don't know, I don't know why this is

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not like trickling through the culture a
little bit more than it than it has.

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Some of it's just funny too,
like not to be uh, non

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empathetic here, but you like you're
like opening up, you know, and

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it's like very social media stuff,
like it's very common to talk about this

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kind of stuff. Yeah, exactly. And it's common to talk about all

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like traumas, right because you're trying
to be relatable and you're trying to tell

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your story, which I do believe
is a positive a social media right to

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make you feel not alone that someone
else lost a husband or whatever whatever,

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even going through heartbreak, Like it's
more relatable now than ever because you can

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visually see other people going through it. But it's just like, yeah,

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you're open up on a heart to
heart. And then you say, like

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porn addiction and we've almost categorized it
so much because they talk about it,

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but like when you really think about
someone's porn addiction is crazy, Like you're

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just fucking stroking your cock too much. Yeah, you know what I mean,

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Like your your issue is just fucking
going crazy. There are certain like

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characteristics of addiction, yeah, and
that porn does not meet. Yeah,

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it was like I know like one
like like base level one that at least

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I go buy and some therapists and
stuff talk to me about. It's just

407
00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:41.319
like yeah, like how is it
affecting your regular life? Right? Right?

408
00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:45.119
So like are you literally sitting in
the shower and say like I have

409
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:48.799
to go to class right now,
classes at nine o'clock and then you just

410
00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:52.519
jerk off for an hour and miss
class. Is that like happening every day?

411
00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:53.960
That would be a lot, right, But that is like what would

412
00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:56.599
make addiction or like, yeah,
I have this meeting where I'm supposed to

413
00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:00.759
meet sebouts for dinner, but I
just jerked off for two hours instead.

414
00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:04.839
Yeah, right, Like doing something
a lot doesn't mean you're addicted, correct,

415
00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:07.640
Right, Like I work out,
I'm definitely not addicted to working out.

416
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:11.400
I drink caffeine, I'm definitely not
addicted. Yeah, I just know,

417
00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.160
you know. Yeah. So this
study actually looked at a bunch of

418
00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:26.759
different studies and the thing that they
found I thought was very interesting that people

419
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:32.319
who would describe themselves as being addicted
to porn or afraid that they're addicted to

420
00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:37.680
porn or whatever, don't use that
much porn. And the morality problem around

421
00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:42.640
them is it's like a guilt,
it's religiosity. It's like a guilt relief

422
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:48.039
to say you're addicted exactly when you're
just a normal jerker. Yep. And

423
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:52.319
the real addicts like us don't talk
about it, don't talk about it.

424
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:57.519
Exactly like the three about yourselves,
like the three of us. It is

425
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:07.079
funny because like, I'm sure there's
some people that can actually be addicted to

426
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:10.759
anything, right, and then you
got to go find help to screw your

427
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:15.079
way through that, right, whatever
it is. And those are often the

428
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.160
people that may have a story to
tell. But I do wonder, yeah,

429
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.839
the people that talk about it freely
and anything like that. People have

430
00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:25.440
talked about steroids or they've talked about
workout addicts, which is a thing I

431
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:30.079
think and I don't know clinically,
but again, you can hypothetically get addicted

432
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.160
to anything an individual, whether it's
a big problem or not. I think

433
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:41.119
it's the discussion here. But if
you like, don't go seek help because

434
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:45.039
if again yeah, joking aside,
like if you're the real addict, you're

435
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:48.440
not talking about it because you don't
know, right, Like you might be

436
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.480
a shame that you jerk off a
lot or something, but you don't you're

437
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:53.519
not kind of like you said,
yeah, the real ones you might have

438
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:57.920
a guilt so they express this addiction, but you don't like express that addiction

439
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:03.480
typically until you've gone through like therapies
and programs to realize where you're at,

440
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:07.640
and you don't go through therapies and
programs to realize where you're at until it's

441
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:12.400
so negatively affecting your real life.
Right, you're broke, your wife left

442
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:17.079
you, you sold your car for
the new Playboy magazine, right, like

443
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:22.079
that would be the porn addicts path. What you hear about with alcohol and

444
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:27.079
other things like, but the people
talking about it. There's one big YouTuber

445
00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:30.359
I know, I don't know if
we mentioned he talks about all the time.

446
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:32.279
We can talk about it foos.
He talks about it all the time.

447
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:37.519
But Fusie talked about getting and this
might be different, but the same.

448
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:38.759
I think he and I don't know, because people are so good at

449
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:42.039
making content. He could just be
funny, but he talks about getting Roubin

450
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:48.759
tugs so much that he was an
addict. It went broke through it and

451
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.200
then like I think that's a lot
of revenantell. That's enough friction to start

452
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.319
a forest fire. Yeah, And
I don't know what the price ranges on

453
00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.480
them things. But and he obviously, you know, I think he's suffered

454
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:06.119
from bipolar disorder and some other things
that obviously all accumulate this, But he's

455
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:08.440
gotten help. You know, I've
watched his streams and he's he's literally on

456
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:11.759
the phone with his therapist, who's
like Jake Paul's therapist, like all these

457
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.599
famous people's therapists. It she seems
actually fucking dope. Like on the phone

458
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.759
call, I'm like, dude,
this lady seems so awesome, and it's

459
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.480
clearly helped him in some ways.
But yeah, I wonder sex addiction,

460
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.279
porn addiction, but I think he
went broke doing it right, which again

461
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:29.759
probably leads to like, oh,
maybe that was an addiction maybe, and

462
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:30.839
then he got help. Yeah,
I think he had to go to AA

463
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.640
because I think he was doing something. Maybe he's just drinking. I don't

464
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.920
know, but he's doing something.
So he went through like legitimate therapy then

465
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:40.880
or program and then that therapy and
then he comes out and tells a story

466
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:45.079
like that seems normal to me rather
than like I don't know. Yeah,

467
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:47.160
the other thing I could, yeah, like caffeine, I guess would be

468
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:48.839
like my one of my bigger vices
if you wanted to call it that,

469
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:53.440
and it used to be one of
mine, and I just I can take

470
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.480
over it now. Yeah, I
mean, I really like the cup of

471
00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:00.839
coffee in the morning, but like, it's not not new drinking nearly as

472
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.920
much as I used to and don't
usually drink it at other times of day.

473
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:07.200
And I bought I bought an espresso, which gives you, like a

474
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.599
duck a double espresso amount of coffee
and you can Americana went up a little

475
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.039
bit with some more hot water.
But like, it's not it's it's two

476
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:19.079
thirds of what I used to drink
in the morning, and I don't go

477
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:22.519
back to it most of the time. Some of my mind is I just

478
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.480
like all the drinks. Yeah,
Like I love the taste of coffee,

479
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:29.960
I love soda type things, so
I love energy drinks rather than Yeah,

480
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:32.839
I drink so much of it,
I don't really get buzzed per se.

481
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:38.079
Yeah, no, I'm not.
I'm drinking less than I'm not more susceptible

482
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:41.000
to it as far as I can
tell. Yeah, as far as I

483
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:45.079
can tell. This article makes the
point that porn addiction is not diagnosable anyway,

484
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:51.920
and it never has been interesting,
so it's not in any med DSM

485
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:56.960
whatever. Now I do understand.
I guess now to defend my porn friends,

486
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:02.279
as I just rip you apart being
fake, there is something wrong with

487
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:06.160
and it's new, so I do
think it's still gonna evolve. But the

488
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:11.880
human addiction with technology, right because
things that seems like a possibility, right

489
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.759
because of the instant gratification that you
can get from anything. Oh I'm a

490
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:19.559
chopaholic, or I feel good when
I shop. I can shop quicker than

491
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:23.599
I've ever could shop. Right,
And I do believe because the big argument

492
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.000
for some of these people are on
the alpha male you know, masculinity train,

493
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.119
and some of it I agree with, where like back in the day,

494
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:34.200
you know, to excuse my words, to bust a nut, you

495
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:40.359
would have to one walk into a
shady place and grab a playboy, right

496
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:44.680
and like do that work? To
go get it? Or or wine and

497
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.480
dine a beautiful partner, you know, male or female. I don't know

498
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:49.920
what kind of porn you guys are
watching, but you'd have to go,

499
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:53.000
you know, okay with whatever it
is because you, oh, yeah,

500
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:56.039
we have to watch. I don't
want to hear about it. I don't

501
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:57.359
want to hear about it. You
know. Yeah, you'd have to,

502
00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:00.920
you know, find a woman.
You'd have to get courage to say hello.

503
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:02.200
You'd have to say, hey,
can I get your number. Hey,

504
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:05.839
you want to go grab dinner,
You buy your dinner, hopefully you

505
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:07.799
do that a couple of times,
and then you get to bust your nut.

506
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.960
Right, there's like but you're not
having porn sex then either, though

507
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.680
well you know, again, I
don't like to judge how how wild and

508
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.279
freaky deky some of these people maybe, but yeah, yeah, long story

509
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:23.200
short, Yeah, the phone is
such a short cut to this end goal.

510
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:29.359
But then I guess to play devil's
advocate. And I'm hypothetically speaking because

511
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:30.839
I'm not a historian. Back in
the day, it was probably simpler too,

512
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:35.039
though, you know, whether you
want to talk caves man or whatever,

513
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.319
there probably wasn't as much wining and
dining going on, right when there's

514
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.799
a arranged marriage, right, so
you're not doing shit. Your parents are

515
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:45.559
setting you up with with your nut
busting, and then two you know,

516
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:49.119
but pretty previous to that, it's
probably uga uga. I'm strong man.

517
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.559
You know you're with me, whether
you know I agree with that or not.

518
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:54.680
But there probably wasn't a lot of
wine and dining. But I do

519
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:59.640
think it probably wired your brain not
good in many ways. And I'm guilty

520
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:05.400
as any one just to have so
much power in your phone to affect our

521
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:08.440
mood negative, positive, dopamine and
all that shit. So I think that

522
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:14.200
it might be more of a tech
addiction. Yeah, and yeah potentially,

523
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:21.480
Yeah, dopamine addiction not specific to
porn, but specific to Yeah. Yeah,

524
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.519
you can get such you get heis
and lows in ten seconds. Yeah.

525
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:28.240
Sure. You know again, we
take away technology and the highs and

526
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.359
lows comes through such a long thing. You're either hearing a story from a

527
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:35.160
friend and you're getting sad or happy
or you got to go do this in

528
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.480
X y Z. But there's like
paths to the dopamine hits and ship.

529
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.640
Yeah, and you know, also
you're talking about dating, like I don't

530
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:45.160
know if dating is easier or harder, but seeing what's available or who's oh,

531
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:50.559
it's way harder. We're fucked.
I'm sick of forever. It's fucked.

532
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:52.920
Yeah, it's fucked out there.
You know you haven't done the app

533
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:55.960
thing. I've played with the apps. It's fucked. It's all fucked because

534
00:33:55.960 --> 00:34:00.039
then like the same, it's almost
worse. I was just talking to some

535
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.039
of the members out there about like
the interview process of works and businesses,

536
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:07.359
how flawed that is right, Like
someone is obviously showing up prepared to tell

537
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:08.800
you what they think you want to
hear. Correct, Well, what do

538
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:13.360
you think a dating app is?
Right, they're telling you what they think

539
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.239
you want to hear. So maybe
you've got a chance to make them,

540
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:16.840
maybe feel cool to then go on
a date with them, and they fucking

541
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:21.880
suck. They got nothing going on. No, it's all I do think.

542
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.800
As much as the Internet has blessed
me in my life for many ways,

543
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:30.000
it's it might be a net negative. Man. What do they call

544
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:34.239
Web two? I think we're technically
in Web two. Where Web one was

545
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.440
a place to like store stuff,
Web two is a place where you can

546
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.480
interact with stuff. I was even
just talking to Jordan out there and how

547
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:45.400
Web two the Internet's basically become a
marketplace. There's not a lot else going

548
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:51.840
on the Internet besides money transactions for
something, right, Netflix streaming, you're

549
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:54.000
paying for it, right, it's
all consumer based or even B to B

550
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:58.559
it doesn't really matter. It's all
a marketplace where back in the day,

551
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:00.840
yeah, store data, right,
you'd find the dictionary online you want to

552
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:04.760
read that or whatever? The fuck? Blogs and even now blogs right,

553
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.039
like, yeah, you can.
I'm not saying you can't learn on there,

554
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:10.239
but they're selling you something and I
think that might be part of the

555
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:15.599
issue here as well. Yeah,
I think that's that's possible. But my

556
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:17.280
point was like, there are people
on apps, and if you're trying to

557
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:21.280
connect with people, they might not
be the people that you want to connect

558
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:23.519
with, but there are people there
for sure. It's easy. Yeah,

559
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:27.639
but yeah, I mean that's what
like Tinder even still to this day.

560
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:29.599
I don't know subut a younger man, but I think it's just known as

561
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.000
the fuck app. Yeah, right, like you're just going on everyone's just

562
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:35.719
yeah. No, I think some
of those people are dating, do you

563
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:37.679
think. Yeah, that's what I'm
saying. They each have their own like

564
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:40.679
culture about them. Yeah, they
each have their own culture about them.

565
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.639
Yeah. I think plenty of fish
are the more mature folks I've heard of,

566
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:50.639
like friends, parents are moms people, they are still using facebooks.

567
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:52.719
Yeah. Yeah, it's the Facebook
gen. Yeah, Christian Mingle and plenty

568
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.320
of fish of the Facebook gen for
sure, even though I'm kind of the

569
00:35:55.360 --> 00:36:00.480
Facebook gen to be honest, Yeah, you are. It literally became college

570
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:05.000
accessible or public accessible when I got
into college. Yeah, yeah, like

571
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.719
literally that year. So I'm definitely
fixing. And that was originally a dating

572
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.760
app, or not even a dating
app, a rating app. Yeah,

573
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:14.559
yeah, for sure, a rating
app literal, but even a dating app

574
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:16.920
after that, like you'd go to
a party in college and then like next

575
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:21.039
day, like you're getting friend requests
from the chicks or your friend request and

576
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:22.079
chick. Yeah, the same as
Instagram now. But yeah, there's just

577
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.159
so much of it and like,
yeah, you're scrolling profile as you see

578
00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:28.599
what you want to see. Yeah, it's it is messy, man,

579
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:32.400
it is. It is. Uh, the Internet's changed so much shit in

580
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:37.519
life that I think the issue with
it isn't the change. The issue with

581
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.320
it is that people don't recognize the
change. They don't take the time to

582
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:45.039
realize like, oh, man,
like dating is fucked because of X y

583
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.079
Z, or I'm scrolling around like
crazy, or I'm on Tinder swiping like

584
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:53.000
crazy, I'm beating my meat every
two hours like crazy because I'm looking for

585
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:57.119
this. Actually, I think that's
it's like actual self awareness because you can

586
00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:01.000
blame tech, but it's all on
the individual. I've never missed class beaten

587
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:07.000
my meat, you know, a
couple of times but not you know,

588
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:09.199
yeah, yeah, I took mortal
class. I was too tired. But

589
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:13.519
I don't I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. But it is

590
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:15.760
very common. And and some of
it is selly because you see, it's

591
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:19.119
the it's the alpha male guys,
because then they're they're doing that, and

592
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.159
then they're trying to tell you how
to date course on the back end,

593
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:23.559
yeah, right, or how to
raise your testosterone or how to be a

594
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:29.440
man on the back end. Yeah. And I think that it claiming that

595
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.039
you are addicted to porn and that
you're trying to, you know, work

596
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:37.119
on your porn addiction is a virtue
signal. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

597
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:38.639
a lot of it. I mean, the whole Internet's a walking virtue signal.

598
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:42.840
Now I hate it. What do
they call it? A semen retention?

599
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:49.079
Oh? Semen retention is so sturdy. Semen retention. That's good.

600
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:54.119
That's good for your masculinity. That's
no nut November yeah yeah, no nut

601
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:58.920
lifestyle. Yeah except that that,
I mean I don't have an article for

602
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.000
that, but there are articles for
that. Yeah, there's no way problem.

603
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:05.159
Yeah. And again, like I
I don't love the argument of going

604
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:07.599
like well on an evolutionary sense what
we are, you know, but a

605
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:12.800
lot of things you can start to
string back down and like we have a

606
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.320
trillion goddamn semen for a reason.
We're made to bust nuts left and right.

607
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:17.880
So then like, why would you
be addicted to bust and nuts left

608
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:22.519
and right? Yeah, I guess
it's not a jerk off addiction. They're

609
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:27.599
talking about porn. But still then
it's the technology accessibility issue. Yeah,

610
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:30.440
well, yeah, because it's entirely
different issue than it used to be when,

611
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:34.039
as you were saying, it used
to go to a bookstore or like

612
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:37.159
you could get a you can get
a Playboy at the grocery store, but

613
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.039
you couldn't get and it was in
brown paper wrapper. Yeah yeah, yeah,

614
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:45.519
but you can't get couldn't get anything
else, and they're not addicted to

615
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:47.800
that. And you're saying, because
it's HD now on porn hub, Like,

616
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.800
I don't think that's why people are. I don't think that's why.

617
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:52.599
I think there's just so much of
it, right, And it's it's the

618
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:57.280
accessibility, yeah, right, because
you can click twice and get there and

619
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:02.199
then be all fucking and the type
probably yeah, almost playboys and having like

620
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:07.840
eight cocks twenty women and a monkey
in there. No fucking monkey man.

621
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:13.719
The Hub's got everything, you know. I think that's probably a bigger issue

622
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:15.239
too. And I'm not here to
kink shame, Like, if you're in

623
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:19.079
all that, you're into whatever the
fuck you're into. But I do think

624
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.280
the accessibility, you know, some
of it. Yeah, it's weird.

625
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:29.320
Internet's weird. You find anything on
the Hub? Yeah, people find all

626
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:34.320
sorts of things to get excited about. Yeah, do not ap peel to

627
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.840
other people. What's weird is you
know, when the when the contours of

628
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:42.440
those things, you know, people
are, have they been exposed to it

629
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.559
or not been exposed to whatever?
It all kind of look the same for

630
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:51.519
certain kinds of fetishes or whatever.
Yeah, you wonder if you're actually attracted

631
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:55.679
to something. I joke about this
with my sexuality, but if you're actually

632
00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:00.000
attracted to something, you And maybe
I'm just talking my eyes, but in

633
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:05.000
my opinion, I don't think you
need to be exposed to it first to

634
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:08.000
know if you are or not.
Probably not right, they're like, oh,

635
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:09.880
you gotta suck a dick to see
if you're gay, Like, no,

636
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:14.679
I know I never had to think
about it, Like I know,

637
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:15.800
I don't want to suck a dick. Yeah, you know what I mean.

638
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:21.760
So, like, maybe that's another
issue with porn, is that you

639
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.719
hunt for crazy shit, then you're
gonna be interested in crazy shit, although

640
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:30.760
you might not be actually just attracted
to crazy shit. Right. If I'm

641
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:32.159
twelve, never been on the Internet, and I close my eyes and I

642
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:37.960
see myself, you know, doing
whatever xyz, then maybe I'm attracted to

643
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:40.920
x y Z. But if I'm
twelve and I have access to the Internet

644
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:45.920
and I just am a crazy kid, every kid at twelve's crazy, and

645
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:49.559
you start hunting for crazy shit because
you're looking for shock factor because you're fucking

646
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.880
twelve. Now all of a sudden, your brain's getting programmed for some weird

647
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:55.320
shit. Now, is that an
addiction? I don't think so necessarily,

648
00:40:55.400 --> 00:41:00.480
but I do think those are issues
that maybe, again, these people who

649
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:06.920
claim porn addiction are are laterally like
the argument's lateral to what they're virtue signing.

650
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:12.360
Yeah, And I don't know,
it's difficult to unpack when someone comes

651
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:15.239
out on social media and they're like
almost addicted to porn or whatever, being

652
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:22.639
addicted to sexis is the diagnosis is
compulsive sexual behavior disorder, and that like

653
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:29.800
the the World Health Organization UH is
excluding excluding the moral conflict part that seems

654
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:36.360
to be driving the bad feelings around
porn. From that, it's just literally

655
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:43.280
like their person's religiousness doesn't really isn't
really a factor in doing it. It's

656
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:47.320
that they have some other they have
a like diagnosable disorder. Yeah, yeah,

657
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:51.760
around it. But it's probably not
just high test No, Like there's

658
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:53.880
some wires that are probably a little
twisted, little twisted. Yeah. But

659
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:58.960
people who are coming out to say
these things either they're they're literally virtue signaling

660
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:07.000
or they or they believe that something
is real and they see aspects of that

661
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:10.840
within themselves and they come forward.
But they're also you know, reaping the

662
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:15.239
benefit right of people attention. Yeah, exactly. I think that's the bigger

663
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:19.239
issue of all of it and all
the social media, and my issue of

664
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.559
where social media has gotten is I
think there's a very fine line of like

665
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:28.800
being vulnerable and being authentic and then
finding or helping people that can relate to

666
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:34.559
your story versus taking advantage of that. And I literally do think eighty percent

667
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:37.880
of everything I see on the fucking
Internet feels like a virtue signal because people

668
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.360
are talking about it so fucking much. The things I've opened up about in

669
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:43.519
the history, I don't talk about
all the time. And I was even

670
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:46.559
thinking about this the other day because
me and Abby just it was a little

671
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:50.800
Jerry's birthday, so we went and
got ice creaming. Abby drove me and

672
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:52.880
I forgot how it started. But
I talk about my best friend passing away,

673
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:55.519
and that's like something I've talked about
on the internet, but it's not

674
00:42:55.559 --> 00:43:00.480
something I talk about in every fucking
episode because I want everyone out there to

675
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:02.239
pity me for losing my best friend. Yeah right, and so like,

676
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:07.039
and I'm not ashamed of it by
any means, but it's like an uncomfortable

677
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:08.719
thing to talk about, you know
what I mean. Like I don't want

678
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:12.800
to rethink about my best friend dying
and going to that hospital. I think

679
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:15.280
that's why we were talking about hospitals
and that brought it up or whatever.

680
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:19.840
But I don't want to talk about
that all the time. And I've never

681
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.079
been a porn addict, but if
I was, or were, you wouldn't

682
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:25.199
be. I probably wouldn't be stoked
on it, right, and so like

683
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:29.199
I wouldn't, you wouldn't find any
cloud from it at all, Right,

684
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:31.639
Yeah, and like it maybe once
or twice I'd open up about it and

685
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:36.480
try to really help and relate to
people out there, or I'd go on

686
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:38.960
a mission to find therapist, interview
or something that really helped that cause,

687
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.440
or donate my money in time to
like help that cause. If I really

688
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:45.159
think it's a thing, But I
don't think you're stoked about talking about it

689
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:49.000
all the fucking time. And maybe
I'm maybe they're more courageous than I am,

690
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.599
but that's with anything, you know, whether it's like escaping a cult

691
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.559
or any like crazy stuff you don't
want to talk about all day every day.

692
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:59.639
It doesn't feel good, right,
Uh, And if it's real,

693
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:01.480
I don't don't think it ever feels
good, you know what I mean?

694
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:06.159
Yeah, for sure? Right,
Like because then the people's argument would be

695
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:07.400
like, oh, if you talk
about enough, you'd normalize it for yourself.

696
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:10.320
But like if you went through it, I don't think it ever becomes

697
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:15.880
normal. I mean, you and
I have have both lost a best friend

698
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:20.440
and we've both lost at least one
parent, And if we talked about it

699
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:22.440
all the time, that's just who
we would be to everybody, right,

700
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:27.079
And Yeah, you're like, it's
branding. That's what virtue signaling is online,

701
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:30.519
is you're branding yourself in this niche. It's a thing that people can

702
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:36.880
connect to us about on the rare
occasions that we bring it out, right,

703
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:38.760
because everyone will go through this stuff
and I and we get in we

704
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:42.119
want to relate. And it was
a dark time and it is part of

705
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:44.440
who I am for sure, Like
it has built me in a lot of

706
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:46.000
ways. To me too, I
remember going through it and thinking like,

707
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:51.320
damn, this is going to be
part of me. Yea. But yeah,

708
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:53.039
I just don't think you're like stoked
on talking about it all the time.

709
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:58.880
If you're fucking especially porn, that's
fucking embarrassing. Yeah, talking about

710
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:00.920
jerking off is like kind of a
dude locker room thing, but like,

711
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:07.440
hey, you're just not like you
fucked your life up by playing with your

712
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:09.280
cock. Yeah, Like that's not
something to be stoked on. So that

713
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:14.599
it just feels virtue signally based on
that. I think for me that if

714
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:17.440
it was that deep, you just
come about it a little different. Yeah,

715
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:21.320
And it is just I'm telling you, it's so common all this stuff

716
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:25.400
and even like the open relationship stuff
there was a big trend online. Okay,

717
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:30.599
so you're into polygamy or whatever.
That's cool. One, I don't

718
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:32.920
care. Two and and I get
it, Like maybe you're trying to share

719
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:37.559
the way for other people that don't
believe or can't relate with monogamy. Okay,

720
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.440
that's cool. But like, then
again, all you want to talk

721
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:45.719
about is that all you want to
talk about is dating five people at the

722
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:49.639
time and how to do that.
Probably not like you're probably virtue signaling,

723
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:52.559
you're probably making money somewhere on the
back end. You're probably selling an ebook

724
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:54.519
on dating. Like, it's just
all of it. The Internet's gotten to

725
00:45:54.599 --> 00:46:00.199
a really weird place for me,
and I'm very Yeah, if you on

726
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:02.719
most things that consume because of that, like I'll watch a bunch of stuff

727
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:07.679
and and and if you're straight up
about what you're making money on, then

728
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:09.559
it feels a little better. Yeah, Like comedians, why do they send

729
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:13.360
clips all over Instagram? Weall because
they're trying to sell their shows exactly.

730
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:15.000
But that's like, so that's all
great. How to get people to watch

731
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.519
things that's ever been Yeah, there
are too many option, but that's great

732
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:22.079
to me. Yeah, you're trying
to show me something funny, So then

733
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:24.760
you are selling me funny on Netflix
or in person, like it's so relatable.

734
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:29.599
But like, yeah, say you
are a real porn attic whatever that

735
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:31.920
means. Uh, And then you're
gonna sell me like like one, you're

736
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:36.239
probably not doctor, but you're gonna
sell me some masculinity. You're like anti

737
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:38.239
porn thing, or then yeah,
you're swinging so hard the other way that

738
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:44.039
you're like anti porn, I'll not
pro porn, but again that's a branding,

739
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:45.760
you're right, right, And then
you're probably selling some shit that's like

740
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:51.280
not clear. Yeah, like we
talk somewhat fitness here, but we just

741
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:53.599
talk life now. But because we're
selling a gym. We have a gym.

742
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:57.280
Yes, that's not like we have
in a periline. Yeah gym.

743
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:00.159
Yeah, it's not like we don't
sell the apperallin it's probably much just we

744
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:01.880
could but anyway, but it's not
like a hidden agenda. No, no,

745
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:05.360
it's not you know, it's not
a sneaky agenda. Like we work

746
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:07.519
out, like clothes, We we
got a place to work out and buy

747
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.719
close like it's pretty simple. Yeah, and and and yeah, it just

748
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:15.199
feels weird when you're doing all that. There's no there's no like back door

749
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:21.480
pitch that yeah, or unrelated unrelated
yeah, yeah. I think I think

750
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:24.360
what people really are is addicted to
attention. I would agree with that,

751
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:28.599
and that's where that's And I don't
know if that's diagnosable either. Well,

752
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:30.400
I guess it is in terms of
maybe like narcissist and shiit, but that's

753
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:36.559
so extreme, uh that terms,
it's hard to find people who are like

754
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:39.960
classically narcissists. No, people use
that term all over the internet because they

755
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:45.000
did one online therapy zoom call and
now they think they're narcissist pros. But

756
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:51.360
like an actual like NPD, like
narcissist personality disorder is fucking so rare.

757
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:55.320
It's there, They're out there,
but it's rare. Yeah, it's it's

758
00:47:55.360 --> 00:48:00.000
it's it's more the cases. Some
people are just assholes, right, disregardless

759
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.000
the people it's not, you know, put and put themselves first. But

760
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:09.639
like the classical diagnosis now as far
of narcissism, as far personality disorder is

761
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:14.239
not. Some people yet just selfish
and unaware. Not they're not self aware.

762
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:19.199
But I do think the Internet is
breeding moral them. I think that

763
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:23.360
that's probably true, because that's what
they say a narcissist. Everything's mostly nature

764
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:27.880
and nurture, right right, And
a lot of times it's kids that either

765
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.440
got too much attention or kids that
got no attention. Both can lead to

766
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:35.880
true NPD. And what's the Internet
doing. It's just making that louder.

767
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:38.400
Yeah, kids, kids that want
to be a content creator and can't get

768
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:43.719
any fucking attention or kids that want
fucking attention and all of a sudden blow

769
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:45.719
up. So what's going to create? What's it going to create when your

770
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:51.960
whole life from this generation on is
about Internet clout, yah, and it

771
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.840
really is. I'm listening to a
book right now. By the way,

772
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:58.239
if you have a Spotify account,
you're paying for it. You can get

773
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:01.239
like fifteen hours of audiobook for free. Yeah, not additional whatever. So

774
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:05.199
and the library. I just had
to say it because my mom muals with

775
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:06.800
me all the time. Yeah.
I thought it. I bought like an

776
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:08.480
audible thing, and my mom yelled
at me, and then she's like,

777
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:10.880
you know, you can just do
audible books from the library for free.

778
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.760
I'm like, all right, my
life the same. Yeah, Yeah,

779
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.079
it's just it's an easier interface.
No, Spotify is so good. Yeah,

780
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:22.280
Spotify is good, and I don't
have an audible account that I'm literally

781
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:23.840
paying for as well. But I
just killed myself by buying the book.

782
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:27.360
Yeah, then I'll go listen to
it. Yeah you know what I mean.

783
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:29.440
I buy like a nine to ninety
nine audiobook. I'm like, ad

784
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:34.719
fu. Yeah, listening to this
book called Clan Lens, which is about

785
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:39.360
it's about Scotland, but it's it. It was a TV series, like

786
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:49.880
a reality kind of TV series with
a couple of the actors from uh Outlander,

787
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:55.000
and they're both they both have you
know, Scottish backgrounds and whatever,

788
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:59.960
so they did this series and the
book this book is the companion to this

789
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.000
series, except that it's very behind
the scenes. Like yeah, I mean,

790
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:06.880
if you don't understand how reality shows
are filmed, yeah, this is

791
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.159
like a pretty good inside of how
how people think about it and like what

792
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:13.880
they what kind of shots they set
up, and what they think is gonna

793
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:16.239
work on TV and whatever. But
it's not like you're not seeing the real

794
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:20.719
because there's no real Yeah. Yeah, it does it pull the veil at

795
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:22.880
bit. It a lot, yeah, a lot. You know how scripted

796
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.719
it is. Yeah, I learned
that early shout out my boy Kenny's Antucci.

797
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:28.920
He was just the first one,
and he was one of the first

798
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.480
reality stars ever. And he just
straight up told me he is like reality

799
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:37.159
TV. If they control the environment, you act real. Yeah. If

800
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:39.679
they don't control the environment, they're
gonna script you, right, And I

801
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:42.920
was like, oh, that makes
sense. It totally, that totally makes

802
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.199
sense. And that's what the real
world was. They controlled the environment.

803
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:46.920
So they put the vodka in there, and they put who's in there.

804
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:49.840
And then he's like, they didn't
tell me how to be. I was

805
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:53.239
me, but they controlled everything around
me. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind

806
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:57.719
of like a lab experiment. Yeah, and that's what makes it interesting.

807
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.519
That's why I watched live streams,
because live streams are like, yeah,

808
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:02.639
it feels like truly authentic. You
don't know what's about to happen. Yeah.

809
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:07.719
So one of the actress is in
a spitting distance of my age and

810
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:12.559
there is one bit of one chapter
where he talks about this very close friend

811
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of his who died in a car
accident and how he felt about it,

812
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:22.840
and he, in the course of
it, makes a tribute to this guy

813
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:25.960
by doing this thing that this guy
would have enjoyed, had he been around

814
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:30.079
whatever, and I was very affecting
to me personally. And I have like

815
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:34.320
a little bit of a mental connection
to that actor now that I didn't have

816
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:37.800
before because I know we've been through
a similar thing, not the same thing,

817
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:42.880
but a similar thing. And now
like he now he's told the story

818
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:45.599
one time. Every once in a
while he'll reference that person and because that

819
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:50.760
person was part of his life,
but you're not hearing the whole story.

820
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:52.159
Yeah, it's not his whole life, it's not his whole branding. It's

821
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:55.559
not about how sad he is.
And one of the things that frustrates me

822
00:51:55.599 --> 00:52:00.639
about about people on social media is
they'll do a they'll make a post that

823
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:06.480
is inscrutable, like you can tell
there's a fucking sad thing going on or

824
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:08.159
whatever, but they don't tell you
what it is. It's like why bother

825
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:13.280
like really like whether he's trying to
like foreshadow or something. It's literally like

826
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:16.880
writing a script. Either tell the
story in a way that you can kind

827
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:22.039
of close the loop on it so
people understand what you're saying, or you

828
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.119
know, it's a it's a text
to people who know you, I mean,

829
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:28.760
instead of putting it on social and
it's just a screen for attention.

830
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:31.440
Yeah, it is like yeah,
and I mean or I mean, I

831
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:36.079
did that on MySpace, but I
was a fucking twelve Yeah. Eventually you

832
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:37.639
grow up and you Yeah I put
a sad song when I was sad.

833
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:39.639
Yeah, but I was twelve years
old. I didn't know what else to

834
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:43.000
do, you know, But like
then hopefully you grow up and you move

835
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.000
on beyond that. Yeah. It
is just like an attention positive loop.

836
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:50.199
Because you tell the story about me
jerking off too much, it gets a

837
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:52.639
bunch of likes. Well, every
week I'm gonna do a post about me

838
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:53.760
jerking off so much because I got
a bunch of likes, and then it

839
00:52:53.800 --> 00:53:00.719
becomes viral in the not necessarily explosively
viral way, but in the people's heads

840
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:04.280
viral way where someone says, oh, geez, maybe I'm addicted to porn,

841
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:07.639
right, and then then they attach
to your content because you're going to

842
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:12.199
tell them how to drop the hub. Yeah. I don't, I don't

843
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.519
understand. I don't get it at
all. Put your dicks away, Yeah,

844
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:19.800
everyone listening, seriously. So yeah, this thing, this article says

845
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:24.519
the moral incongruence around pornography use is
consistently the best predictor of the belief that

846
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:30.880
one is experiencing pornography related problems or
dysregulation, and comparisons of aggregate effects revealed

847
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:37.039
that it's consistently much better predictor than
porn use itself. Yeah, I mean

848
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:39.800
it makes so much sense to me
because like psyche diagnoses like this have been

849
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:45.159
around, yeah, and porn addiction
hasn't been around. What changes the Internet?

850
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:49.159
So you may be addicted to the
Internet, Yeah, but you're probably

851
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:51.519
not addicted to poor hom me an, addicted to porn or addicted to your

852
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:54.480
phone. All right, ladies and
gentlemen. New episode Wednesday, Friday,

853
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855
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856
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857
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858
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you on good Company discord dot com. I am at j mcdiane all the

859
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:19.960
social media. By the way,
I'm gonna I will link this article so

860
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:22.239
you can read it so you can. It's not just coming out of my

861
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:24.639
mouth here. Uh, this show
is fifty percent facts. For percent is

862
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:28.679
a word, and fifty it's just
numbers. Fifty percent facts. It's a

863
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:32.559
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864
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:35.679
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