“Air” review: Nike’s historic pursuit of Michael Jordan

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Long time, you see, I
know with Deans, Caffeine and Kilos,

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was there any movies? Maybe there's
no good movies, you know. I

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was shocked about how quick this one
went to Prime. I was stoked when

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the deal was. It was originally
just gonna go to Prime, and I

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saw that, and then they realized
it had some potential. And so Amazon,

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like every other streaming services, trying
to figure it out at this point,

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because they made this one, right, They're still trying. That's why.

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That's when I meant when I said
I saw that when it was starting

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up the intro, it was like
Amazon or whatever. Yeah, I was

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born in Beaverton to start off this
show. Really got a Nike in your

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blood. Yeah, wearing them around
the same era too, I mean I

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was born eighty eight Yeah, yeah, kind of thereby three eighty four is

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when he was drafted. Eighty forty
five was his first year, and then

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obviously the success was overnight. Yeah. Yeah. If you read the title,

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we're talking about air the um the
story you do on purpose. I

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didn't even think about it. I
didn't even think about it. I'm an

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idiot. The story, Oh,
Michael Jordan came to Nike yeah, I

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just threw him on I didn't even
think. Yeah, I did it on

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purpose. Yeah, you got the
real ones. I got to think the

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twenty fifteens version. Um. Yeah, but the iconic ic Chicago um,

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Chicago one because they call him what
now they call him new sneaker heads will

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call him Bread's old sneaker heads wanted
to be called These are always the Chicago

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Breads black with the black and red. Yeah, and and every color or

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every sneak number. They still call
him a bread. They still call him

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a bread. Yeah, these are
the twenty fifteen year was a good year

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for these because they made him with
like still the quality leather and the um.

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But yeah, the what's it called? Interesting movie? You liked it?

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I almost want to rate it now? Oh man, okay, let's

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start with the intro. Yeah,
yeah, How Sick was just the intro.

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It was good, just like eighties
vibes. That was really really good.

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So that was one of my favorite
parts of the movie. It does

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set it up like you're like,
oh, you get submerged into the eighties

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like hardcore, And it's funny because
they mirror that much later in the in

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the um in the movie when h
Matt Damon's character Sonny Vacaro is giving the

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speech to Jordan in the in the
pitch meeting about rising and falling and they'll

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love you, they'll hate you,
all that stuff and it's all the real.

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Yeah, I wonder how Dans that
speech was. I did, as

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in did he say it? I
don't know, ask a good question,

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I don't know, Okay. And
and because they obviously tailored the living fuck

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out of the narrative with Sonny and
his mom m because Jordan was like some

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of it's real, Like, Jordan
was kind of underrated coming out of college.

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Everyone thought James Worthy was gonna be
the better player. Um, there's

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a bunch of guys in the draft
they thought would better and they thought Jordan

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would be good. Like no one
really did think Jordan would be Jordan's So,

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having read a little bit behind the
scenes stuff, Affleck, who directed

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this u conferred with with Jordans on
a lot of like little detail stuff to

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make sure that they were getting it
right. Jordan got involved and he yeah,

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he said he would participate as long
as like one of his friends would

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be in the cast, a particular
person in the cast, and that Viola

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Davis would play his mom. I
was gonna say, I wonder if the

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cast was stacked. It was good. It was so stacked, and I

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thought it was good. Yeah,
you know, because like you never know

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what Chris Tucker's about the brain and
you know Wayne's brother yeah killed it.

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Yeah, Yeah, they're so good. I um, I wonder if Jordan

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had a say in not having someone
play in I didn't what I read he

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didn't. That was a decision that
because he is such a distinctive looking person.

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I thought that was like I was
happy they did that and too alive.

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Yeah, I would kind of fuck
it up. Yeah. The only

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one that could play it is Jimmy
Buckets. The conspiracies that Jimmy Bucket couldn't

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be his son, Yeah, it
could be his kid. Yeah. The

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timeline's add up perfectly. The Bolts
were in town. Doesn't doesn't know doesn't

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know his dad. Yeah. They
did do the CGI and ripped away the

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hair and like the eyebrows and the
mustache and they look a lot of fucking

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like. It's interesting. It's interesting. There's some crazy controversies in the NBA

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that I think we should dive into
real quickly that have been on my brain

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that I don't know how they get
ignored. Yeah, like what Karl Malone,

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I think has a kid with a
sixteen year old when he's a rookie

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in the league. Yeah he was. I think he was eighteen and she

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was like seventeen. But he's in
the league, so like he's the league.

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That's an old eight team. But
also like, hey, like I'm

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not trying to get weird here in
Florida, but what state are we in?

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We're in Florida, sixteen. I
don't want to get weird either,

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because the conversation could get weird.
But like I think even in Canada and

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the UK, in Florida a lot
of places, there's a lot of place

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Ajascent is sixteen, which is which
is not okay, it's weird, But

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eighteen to sixteen is a little better
than I thought because I thought he was

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more like twenty one. Now I
think he was still like a technically like

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in his teens. Maybe. But
either way, then this guy doesn't talk

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about him, doesn't do anything.
Now. The kids in the NFL,

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Yeah, I didn't know he was
in the NFL. He's in the fucking

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NFL. I knew about thinking places
for the Dolphins. Damn, he looks

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just like Carl. He's a freak. Yeah. Um, where's another one,

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the Jimmy Butler one. Jimmy Butler. The trail does kind of slowly,

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you know, disintegrate, but Jimmy's
uh, Jordan played like the Rockets

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perfectly with three days off around the
timeline that Jimmy would have to be conceived.

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And his mom's from Houston. That's
a weird one. Steve Nash during

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his MVP run in the NBA for
the Phoenix suns Um has a not white

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child. Oh and his white and
his woman's white yep, oh huh,

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and a couple of teammates were not. Yeah, well obviously, like that's

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just not how biology works. I'm
not a genesis I don't think it works

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that way either, columnists, columnist, I'm not a geneticist. All I'm

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saying, yeah, I don't think
there's a docile black gene in me.

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I don't think that that has ever
been recorded as happening just randomly. No,

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you know, like they say,
like red red hair could be docile,

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so could skip generations or blue eyes
or some shit. Yeah, I

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don't think black skin is I don't
think so, but that happened. I've

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ever heard that story, and I
think they know who. Oh okay,

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so there's like a not like a
Lebron James situation where the guy was banging

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his mind, but I think he's
on the streets. Yeah, but yeah,

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I think people know that too.
Portolante West, I mean Spipole.

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You see he ends up making mistakes. Yeah, then you see the you

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see videos of them. Still,
people put him on video and he's like

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I think Mark Glicker Store. Yeah, Mark Cuban gave him a job,

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um to work for the Mask because
he played for the Mask for a season,

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like ball boy types, just like
trying to help him out, and

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I think he ended up back on
the streets. Yeah, it's insanely sad.

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Yeah, all right, I think
that's all the contrast, I'm sure

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more well, and then the fact
that everybody in the NBA is on shit.

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Yeah, that does interest me.
I don't like, clearly Lebron's on

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everything. He's got to be on
some hh right, Yeah, he looks

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so good. What does epo?
Yeah, where you just don't ever get

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tired. Yeah, EPO does seem
interesting or blood doping? Like why is

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blood doping illegal. Is there negatives? I don't think there's really negatives.

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It's just that it's cheating. It's
not everybody. I mean, there's only

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cheating because it's against the rules.
They're not giving it to everybody, even

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when like Twitter fronts you can't even
like store up your own blood and give

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it to yourself. Yeah, but
I'm wondering, if there's no negatives,

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why don't we just make it allowed. Well, I don't know. I'm

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not making that decision. I understand
dangerous potential. That's why I wonder if

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there's negatives because the sauce and stuff. I understand theoretically, if too many

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platelets or whatever, you can have
a stroke, you can have other other

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heart stuff, other cardiac issues.
Um. So yeah, there is a

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there's a downside, but it's not
a downside if you if it's being used

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correctly. But it's also like correctly
is to treat, you know, actual

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medical issues and not what is the
original use, Not to get like too

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deep into like what is the point
of some kind of cancer When you're slushing

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some cells out? Yeah yeah,
yeah, like healing, Yeah, you're

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throwing more healing cells in there.
I don't know interesting. I don't know

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genior microphones. Try to go damn
understand too. I don't know what the

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fun big heads, it's right.
Just tilt it up like this. Yeah,

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there we go better. Yeah,
I mean it should be fine.

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It's just matter if I just slouch
more. We're not doing video, are

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we Yeah? Yeah? Do you
look cool? You're not beings like fuck,

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it can't be bothered. Hide behind
the snakers. You're not being judged

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on your posture. Yeah, that's
okay, stop by assy discord. Take

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it easy on your boys posture if
you guys like I think any kind of

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sports or business. I think it's
a pretty unique movie. Yeah, yeah,

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I liked it, but it definitely
felt very fans service. It was,

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but it has to be right.
We're talking about a fucking pretty boring

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situation that you have to make interesting, not like you know what I mean,

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like a very like business business transaction
movie. Yeah you know, Paul

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Gomez, Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, okay. Well I

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did a podcast episode on the old
show that we had him on, and

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he talked about when Nike bought Hurley, and some of this felt like that

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they're kind of like, uh,
like a little bit of an acknowledgment that

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they're doing a seat of the pants
thing, but they're also trying to get

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into a market that they have not
been able to crack before. Yeah.

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What I liked about this one in
particular, which I guess I've known and

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you guys have probably known too,
but maybe our audience hasn't, is like

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just because you hear Nike or Reebok
or Adidas like these giant billion dollar names,

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they're still just like humans figuring it
out. Yes, just a room

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of people, dudes, and like
maybe they got more educational background, but

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like they're just Sonny. Yeah,
Like and there's Sonny's running big companies still

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for sure. And that's what like
like a lot of my friends that have

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successful companies, Like, yeah,
they know a ton by experience, and

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they have some skills obviously to create
community or content or whatever it is,

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but like they're still just like kind
of weighing it. Well. Like the

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movie they'll show that kind of really
like exaggerates that even too is like succession,

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right, I just got like,
yeah, it's it's decent. The

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Yeah, he's got these like just
degenerates that are just running the country or

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running like you know, like how
things are, it's just because it's just

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where they were born or who it
is. Just like they don't it's all

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bullshit. Who they suits around them
maybe might know more, but the people

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actually in charge making the actual decisions, like book bros. Or I think

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at that level, no one knows, right because if it was so simple

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that you could learn how to build
a Nike from college, how many people

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have gone to college? Hundreds of
thousands. Yeah, they ain't building Nike.

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No, Like there's no science to
any of it. And so when

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you're Nike trying to turn into Adidas
or whatever, it hadn't been done in

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America because Adidas International and they were
running the markets in most sports like to

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go to that leap, there had
never been an iconic brand on the level

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of Nike ever. M No,
you know what I mean. So like

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it doesn't matter your education or the
suits or like you still gotta make shit

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up. Yeah, And that's what
it kind of shows, which I kind

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of liked. That's what the that's
what the book Shoe Dogs really talks about

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more like the building of Nike.
Obviously this movie is about signing Jordan,

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but like the Shoe Dog book.
If you guys haven't read that, like

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fucking fantastic book, especially from business
owners like you guys. Look, you

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know it's even do it on audio
whatever. It's like Phil Knight's book,

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his own book. Yeah all right, Yeah, it's like this story.

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Yeah, um, really good.
I don't know a lot about Phil Knight.

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It's sick. It's a sixth story. It makes you like want to

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work your ass off. Yeah,
that's one of those folks gets you fired

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up. Even this thing kind of
got me fired up, but maybe because

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it's so niched up to what we
do. But it just like like some

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of the stats and you know,
I just came back from Houston with hanging

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out with shaw Lee who owns a
Naka, and Christian Guzman owns Alphalite,

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and Max Tuning own Sour Strips,
and like not that they're overnight successes,

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but all these companies always kind of
have us switch that flips, you know

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what I mean, Like they're doing
good or they're doing fine, and then

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like anything can fucking happen. And
that's what this story kind of feels like.

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Yeah, like, man, you
make a couple right decisions and you're

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off to the fucking racist and that
kind of excites me. Yeah, for

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sure. No, that's that's really
it. It's like that one big move,

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you think you're at the top.
They're already a billion dollar company,

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yeah, which is crazy. In
the eighties, yeah, I mean that's

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like what now, right, and
then, but they weren't even nowhere near

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their potentially They were at seventeen percent
of the market. Yeah, and then

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uh I think it was yeah basketball, Yeah, they were seventeen percent of

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the market now yeah, and uh, twenty twenty two, Nike's revenue is

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twenty nine point one billion, and
the next highest is Adidas at thirteen point

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one. That just tells you,
like, what a fucking who's playing in

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Adidas? I don't I feel like
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Like who's playing there's definitely like um
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some player. They always had players, Like even I bet you that ratio

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has been pretty constant since like two
thousand and They always had a couple of

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guys. They always had like Kevin
Garnett. You know, they always snuck

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in a couple and there's a couple
of people that flopped, like Kobe had

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a big or flip flop not flopped
his interns his name that on Uh Celtics

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not Celtics, um correct, no, no, no, no, who

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just Celtics just beat ombiad and James
Harden Harden Hardens got Adidas. You know,

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so they've always had some hitters because
yeah, back in the day,

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they had Kobe for a while and
they had a really good run. Um

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that's true, than Kobe went to
Nike, right, Yeah, there was

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a little flash of of run DMC. Yeah, and like they talked about

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it a get amount. Yeah,
I was. I've told these guys,

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I went to this UM exhibit in
when we were in London called Beyond the

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Streets and it's been in the It's
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then those just the London version.
It was like uh uh graffiti graffiti art

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through through the centuries and decades,
and it was sponsored by Adidas, and

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there was a they had a bunch
of like run DMC memorabilia. Their their

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shoes, like like you know,
their worn shoes and stuff like that,

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no laces, no laces, no
laces. Those shoes like are impossible to

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war without la and they're just not
even annoying. I even even loved them.

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Shelto's, Yeah, I had them
like when I was younger because there

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was like a thing with the fat
laces, like in middle school. I

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never loved them. Yeah, that
was it, but they're really popular again,

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like recently with the kids. They're
still going or like Sambas are really

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hot right now in streetwear and Samos
Dan Smith's. Yeah, I've always had

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an infatuation with just like soccer in
general, even though I never played,

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like a style, the haircuts,
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feel like it's only gotten more cultured
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but they're each guy was kind of
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can kind of pick out a soccer
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the MESSI and Ronaldo's you know they
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the lakes leave and a little bit
of style to it, where basketball has

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kind of always had that since Jordan
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they had to do fan service,
but and they had to explain some stuff

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like Phil Knight goes on a rant
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running shoes you run in them?
You work in them, you go to

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the store on them, and you
walk in them, which was like so

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true, and it's actually back there
now. If you're a big sneakerhead,

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you kind of know that, like
running shoes and dad shoes are running the

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game. But for the last forty
years before that, basketball you're wearing basketball

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shoes to play basketball. You're Seinfelds
wearing fucking basketball shoes. Adam Sandler's wearing

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basketball shoes, like every rappers wearing
basketball shoes. It was such a thing.

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and how they're styled, I think

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they went more towards um function rather
than they were in the mid two thousands,

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because then now you're just wearing retro
basketball shoes. You're wearing older Jordan's,

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you're wearing older Nikes, foam posits, etc. Etc. Every new

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signature shooting though now is a fucking
low top, yeah, which I like

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about that. I like it because
because I'm short, you couldn't you couldn't

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get a low top basketball shoot besides
of Kobe. But and even yeah,

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Kobe was kind of the first one
to make them real popp Now, like

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the new Lebrons are low tops.
The job rants are low tops. There

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was a study I went into a
long time ago because people always claimed ankle

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support, but that a high top
ver slow top. I don't think there's

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any Yeah, I don't think there's
any. Lets you're wearing the fucking curry

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plastic and even getting any support.
Yeah, even that, I don't know

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if it actually stops a sprain air
cast rather than just like mental Yeah,

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probably not, because if your shit's
about the twist, your shit's about the

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twist. Yeah, you know you're
taking who knows how much impact from a

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falling out the sky? Yeah,
speaking of impact. Matt Damon's weight,

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Yeah, he's wearing a fat suit. That's good because I was talking to

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my my wife watched with me last
night and I'm like, man, I

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really hope he didn't gain this weight. But this role people do though for

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this role, like it just didn't
matter. Yeah, try to make it

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matter at the end, Like with
that little run scene that little I wonder

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what his like basketball background was.
His face looked fat though it did look

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a little fat. I mean he
might I don't know if they may put

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a neck on him. He definitely
didn't look healthy. I thought it was

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real look super paced. I thought
it was kind of real, to be

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honest. Yeah, he looked a
little uh yeah, Portland pasty. Yeah,

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we'll just never fucking no son,
no son. Yeah, it's rainy

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as visible. Well, part of
it, I mean we get down to

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the casting. Part of it is
that they cast people who have presisting relationships

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so they could play that subtext on
screen and seemed like they were people who

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worked together and worked worked together,
had known each other for years or whatever

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without hadn't really having to try the
scenes with fucking Jason Bateman. He was

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throwing one hundred miles an hour.
He was so good. Yeah. Yeah,

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he's just like one of the best
actors in Hollywood. I think,

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so straight up. I like a
lot of stuff he's in, Like he

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like his early comedy stuff was kind
of snli and whatever. Yeah it's fine,

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like Horrible Bosses or whatever. But
like Ozark, like he's good,

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Well Ozark changed his life. Yeah
good. I mean like he was kind

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of like not taken seriously until until
I was. But also like I'm a

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huge Arrested Development fan. Yeah,
which is like classic kind of the same.

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He knows how to play the same
character, but like serious and comical

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at the same like you can jump
back and forth where you're not feeling it's

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two different characters. It's just like
there's different personalities for the same character.

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The announcer in Dodgeball. Yes,
you know, Yes, he is good.

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He's so good that that whole like
speech about I'm I'm here, but

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I'm supposed to be somewhere else and
i gotta do something tomorrow. I gotta

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be with my kid, and like
I'm just barely hanging onto this relationship with

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my kid. That was fucking masterful. That was such a good He's like,

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I'm gonna buy Phil's shoes regardless,
just so my kid likes me.

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Like, oh fuck, yeah,
that's sad. Yeah, every Sunday brings

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her a new pair of shoes.
Nike really did go off to the races

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after that because of this movie and
obviously other things. More clips were coming

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out, and like Charles Barkley was
interviewed and talked about how Jordan um Uh

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mentored him into his contract and so
when he got a contract shortly after I

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think more in the nineties with the
signature shoe and all that, I think

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he got royalties and he asked four
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and they did the math. You
know, it was like a little

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clip, but they did the math
and he made ten times more than he

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would have on a contract. The
OG movie, the Og Jamanji movie.

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Yeah, when the kids wearing the
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That's like I might have been when
I first got into shoes. Was

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from that movie Jamanji stuff like that
kid had those Barkleys. Like I bought

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Brock a pair of like toddler Baby
not even not even Barkley ninety fours.

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Yeah, I have the OG ninety
four are from Baby ones like from ninety

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four that I bought for Brock when
he was like a kid. I still

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have him there. Those are dope. They're all fucking like kind of paints

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chipping off like they're sick. Those
are dope. Yeah, I love those

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original shoes are crazy. Yeah,
I talk about throwback. I was just

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with Barton his son's five, and
how I think I started it, and

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then they ended up teaching him because
he has the bo Jacksons the Trainers,

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and I kept telling him about that, and I was like, dude,

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that guy's crazy athlete because he's getting
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And he's like I wear that.
But yeah, saying this dude like

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I didn't even see bo Jackson play, you know, like I'm crazy too.

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Yeah. Yeah, it's already like
four generations passed. How did you

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guys like the clips of like real
Jordan's like mixed into the movie almost like

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a docuseries. Yeah, vibe like
they would throw these real clips in.

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I don't think they could do anything
other than that. Honestly. The only

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thing that was frustrating to me is
why didn't they have, particularly early in

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the film, why didn't they have
better versions of those clips? They look

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like they got him off YouTube and
there's like an up wrest them all,

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but when he was in college,
because that's old. I mean there's we're

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talking seventy and they're filmed from a
scout like him stands maybe yeah, because

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he he went to Yeah, he
went to Carolina in like eighty two.

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So I don't think then basketball wasn't
popular. So I don't think you were

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a film and shit, maybe maybe
that's the case. I just don't think

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you were filming. Shit. We
well, the thing that yeah, but

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the thing that that sort of bumped
me, was that we were supposed to

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be seeing it as he was seeing
it, and it older than it would

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have looked at the time that he
saw it. Oh maybe that's that's what

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Buck came about it. But at
some point along the line, you just

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have to kind of let go because
because it went largely because of that.

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The montage when he's giving the speech, that's all stuff that hasn't even happened

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yet, and that's you know,
varying, varying levels of quality. They

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didn't try to like make that look
perfect either. What was that like pitch

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video? Was it just a loop
of the shot? Yeah? Why why

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was it? It was just looping
the same shot? I didn't get that

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either. So they build a master
plan to sign Michael Jordan. Right,

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that's this whole idea. This guy
has a feeling And I don't know how

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accurate that is either, but the
idea how we broke down the basketball play

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was really cool to me. And
he's like Dean Smith knows, his mom

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knows, like this guy's got a
killer, and no one else knows as

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a killer because James Worthy was the
guy. Jordan was really good. I

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mean they talk about his stats and
stuff like averaging eighteen and the NC two

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A is not a joke. But
James Worthy was the standout on that team

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for sure. And then so they
build his master plan. Yeah, part

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of the pitch is this is perfect, right. They're planning on you know,

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Phil Knight coming to the meeting late
to show he's busy, but it

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and he obviously like ruins the thing. But I'm sure that that was that

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felt like it was so yeah real, Yeah, I felt real like that.

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Apparently he was supposed to be pretty
awkward person. Yeah, yeah,

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well that was really I got the
same vibes. Yeah, I got the

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same Vibesiaillionaire. Yeah, I like
that. But so everything's like masterful and

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good. You know, they're like, oh, all right, Chris Tucker,

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you're going to relate them to them
on being a black American, like

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you go talk to the mom and
all this stuff all seems very well planned

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out. And then they go to
the pitch video and it's just a loop

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and it's nothing music. It's just
not on the same page as where they

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are because they're just trying to do
this new shit. I didn't understand it

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at all either. I know that
they didn't want to use a straight up

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pitch video. But I didn't know
what they were supposed to be doing with

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that footage. Yeah, maybe that
no one was saying anything. Maybe that's

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part of the old school shit,
like all pitch videos or what we do,

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so like that's the gold andred to
sign someone. Well, the other

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ones were like made sense, right
because they had Larry Bird or Ragic and

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they were like doing their like their
thing like that they filmed this like you

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know, one hundred thousand dollars video
or whatever, like for let's use for

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pitches, you know what I mean. This one just was like he's just

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showing him tape of him shooting the
same shot with shitty music. Yeah.

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I don't know either. But even
like him predicting the meetings and the other

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thing are so funny. Yeah that
was cool. Yeah, like he knows

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exactly what's going to happen because he's
been in the industry. He knows exactly

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how are you gonna get pitched?
And it seems kind of like a duh.

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It's probably everyone that watches the movie, but like they try to make

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the point and it comes across a
little corny. But when they talk about

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like making a signature sneaker. You
know, it's just a sneaker till someone

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steps in it. Like those are
all kind of cliche whatever things. But

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at the time, that literally revolutionized
fashion. Yeah. Yeah, the idea

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that you would make a particular shoe, Yeah, the person in mind,

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as opposed to and then market the
person, as opposed to taking your stock

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shoe off the shelf and sticking it
on someone and hoping that they are popular

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enough that they're going to move to
move the needle. Larry and I don't

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know if Larry and Magic ever got
a signature sneaker. Magic might have come

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out with his own shoe later that
was I Can pay Less. Yeah,

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but there's a there's a bit in
Winning Time about um about Magic Johnson and

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his shoe contract and how the converse. Yeah, because you just wore the

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weapons, which were just their normal
ass shoe. Yeah, it's weird,

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um Jordan, Yeah, it might
have been the first. I don't.

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I don't think even nowadays, a
soccer player shoe is not very common,

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even though imagine MESSI like he probably
has one. But yeah, I feel

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like they just have like their own
I guess they do have like a pro

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model you're right, but many people
and it's just like the Nike vapor and

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Messi's colors. Yeah, like they
don't have the Nike Messi yeah, or

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the I don't even know. He
might be with Adidas or whatever, but

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yeah, I know he was with
Nike. Like that's not a common thing,

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Madavona, like Ronald no Beckham Beckham
maybe, but most of those people

404
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don't get him either. It's literally
a basketball thing. Football no one gets

405
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:18.400
skateboarding. Skateboarding. Now, skateboarding
they get their own, like, but

406
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.880
often that's only because a Nike No. No, you're right, because Nike

407
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:23.000
hopped into skateboarding. Like, I
don't know if other companies do it,

408
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.480
they're like, yeah, they were
doing it. They were a walking ship.

409
00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:30.079
It's definitely easier for those smaller companies
to do it than Yeah, it

410
00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:37.240
makes more sense. Yeah. So
I come up with that concept from supposedly

411
00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:41.559
a guy they hired who's just a
scouter. He's just supposed to find the

412
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:48.599
talent that's like a really dramatic like
marketing inspiration. That's a disrupt yeah right,

413
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:55.240
And and disrupts don't always come from
um, from the mainstream people who

414
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:57.359
know what's going on because they can't
always see it. But that is a

415
00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.960
major disrupt Some of those meetings felt
really authentic too, when they're just like

416
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:06.319
going through draft picks, like even
when I'm like picking on who to sponsor

417
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:08.759
send packages to myself over the years
for other companies, are now a good

418
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:12.279
company? Like that's how I look
at shit, like oh, this come

419
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:15.880
might have some potential, or like
this come y, or like what yeah,

420
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.519
what's this following? Like obviously the
criteria is a little different, um,

421
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.119
but it's funny to see all that
and they're like throwing real names.

422
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:23.799
Is funny, you know the gas
station guys talking shit on John stocked in

423
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.279
everybody. I didn't get the Gonzaga
joke though, well, they were saying,

424
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:33.119
because nobody at Nike knew where the
hell Gonzaga was, but you know

425
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:34.920
what's right next door? Yeah,
it's it's right there, Like they had

426
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:38.119
you have known, yes, Washington, maybe they didn't fit the merit.

427
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.559
Yeah, I think that one went
over their head because this right next door,

428
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:44.839
like they had to have known,
And University of Portland is the big

429
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:48.079
Catholic private school there and there in
Gonzaga's league. They might not have been

430
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:51.279
in their league in the eighties.
Maybe they're just showing the disconnect of like

431
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:53.240
the corporate the corporation had become.
I think so. I think they're showing

432
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:57.519
the disconnect between Nike running and that
they don't care about other sports. Yeah.

433
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:00.559
Yeah, And I think that some
of those things executives, um they

434
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.720
were in that room or probably people
who came from other companies for sure,

435
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.680
And they made it very clear that
like none of the other companies are are

436
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:10.359
on the West Coast period. Yeah. Yeah, they made a bunch of

437
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:15.160
like comments and jokes or whatever about
Portland versus because because the shoe capitol is

438
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:18.960
now Portland, Seattle, like a
lot of running shoes and shitter in Seattle.

439
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.480
But before that it was Boston.
His Converse was made in Ballaston,

440
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.400
New Balance was made in Boston,
like all these og companies were. Yeah,

441
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:27.960
but Rebok was because of Adidas and
stuff. I think the connection from

442
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:32.359
Europe. Like I don't know where
Reebok was actually founded. Maybe it was

443
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:37.000
Bosti before um Adida's owns Rebok now
right, No, no, they just

444
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:38.200
they sold it again, that's right, But they did for a long time.

445
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:42.319
They did for like twenty thirty years. Yeah, um, okay,

446
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:47.640
so everybody knows the Adidas all day
I dream about sex thing, right,

447
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:49.680
Yeah, excepted that. I mean
obviously that's not like it was like a

448
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:53.720
pop culture maybe. Yeah, it's
it's Audi Dossler Adidas. Yeah right,

449
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:57.920
Adolf, Yes, Adolf, Yes, his name is Adolf. Um.

450
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:03.119
The one I didn't know was the
Puma one. I had never heard that.

451
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:06.400
I never heard that. I've never
heard that. We never said that

452
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:11.480
the Audi dos the Adidas thing,
like we said that is like there's songs

453
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.000
about all day I dream about sex
and shit. Yeah. Well I feel

454
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.319
like the um. I feel like
the Puma thing was was revisionist. I

455
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:25.079
think that's a current sensibility place maybe
backwards onto yeah, maybe an earlier time.

456
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:27.440
Yeah, back onto the eighties.
I don't think that there was anybody

457
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:33.799
saying please use my ass in the
eighties. Yeah, that was just yeah

458
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:37.599
yeah maybe internal Nike hate aids pandemic
though, man, yeah maybe. Yeah.

459
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:41.960
I didn't know Juma because Puma literally
just became a player in basketball like

460
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:45.759
last year, like they didn't even
they've never even doubted all the fucking whose

461
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.319
shoe is at? That's just like
all the dude, I'm telling you,

462
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.960
what's that Puma? All the kids
wearing with the wings on the side of

463
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.400
a Lonzos yeah, or the younger
one is the younger one? You don't

464
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:59.039
think of his name. I'm telling
you, every fucking kid in my neighborhood

465
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:02.119
at the most is wearing those bro
that is that has to be I'm I've

466
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:04.160
we looked it up a bit.
Just one of the top selling basketball shoes

467
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:08.039
currently. Interesting. I see so
many fucking kids with that show kid's name.

468
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:14.640
It's not Lonzo, it's a little
one Uzello Mello yeah, Mellows.

469
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:17.680
Yeah, I think those are Mellows. Dude. Those are those guys,

470
00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:19.279
the green ones, the Grinch style
ones. Like, dude, I'm telling

471
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.240
you, I went to a birthday
party, but that was like older kids,

472
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.640
like nine year olds and there,
and they were all fucking rocking,

473
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:26.839
and I'm dude, it's kind of
cool. They're still wearing basketball shoes though,

474
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.960
and they're not like, oh,
do I see the kids of the

475
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.960
park, like the younger kids like
they're they're But to be fair, it's

476
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:38.240
all the at least the white kids. Yeah. I don't know who's what

477
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:42.279
the shoe is right now, because
what's cool is like I get into shoe

478
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:45.279
TikTok and basketball TikTok, and then
they'll mesh over and they'll do like shoe

479
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:49.000
basketball TikTok, and guys will like
review the functionality of the shoe, because

480
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:52.160
they even talk about that in the
show or in the movie. You know,

481
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:55.880
when they're designing the shoe, he's
like, oh, do you want

482
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:59.000
like form or do you want like
function? Yeah? You know. Well

483
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:03.720
with with the George and one also, like I mean he Jordan wore the

484
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.559
their first prototype like I think ten
for the first time, like ten games

485
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:11.680
into the season against the seventy six
ers and fucking stop wearing them after one

486
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:17.440
game. Well didn't wear them again
until like December and like eighty like Closter

487
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:19.519
to eighty five when they came out. But it's it's the if you look

488
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:22.480
at the shoe that he was wearing
most of that season, was the Airship

489
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.200
or whatever, and it's it's it's
same fucking shoe. Yeah, or yeah,

490
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:30.359
you look at the Nike or the
Converse weapon, Yeah, it's it's

491
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.119
the same shoe that they're all wearing. Uncomfortable. Everything with the Jordan one

492
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:37.240
and the Airship is like they added
like a panel here like on the back

493
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.279
and like more color around the toebox, but like in like an extra little

494
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:45.000
piece of material. But the whole
thing within the movie is where I'm getting

495
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:47.160
out, the whole par of the
movie where they're like just designing this like

496
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:49.920
nothing like it shoe, It's like
that was all bullshit. It was.

497
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:53.640
It was also the exact same shoe
as the airship which he was playing in,

498
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:57.359
right, and it doesn't look that
different from like their their flagship shoe,

499
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:00.119
like the Cortez or whatever was popping
right then, Like yeah, it's

500
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:04.079
not that. It wasn't and it
has the same soul as the ship.

501
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.359
It has every has the bay you
get into like nineteen ninety five to two

502
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:13.160
thousand and five and Nike goes crazy, like some of the shoes look like

503
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.319
alien shoes. Yeah, that was
the best arrow, like all the different

504
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:20.680
crazy foam posits, like I had
the ones with the bug eyes. Do

505
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:22.279
you remember seeing those that has a
big strap and it literally has like a

506
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:27.079
glowing bug looking eye. That's right, yeah, Like even like a flight

507
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.599
post. I think it was a
flight post. And even the Jordans,

508
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:32.160
like the thirteens had start to get
raptor eye and they start to get Kuki.

509
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:37.839
Yeah, like the the like the
little like three D thing. Yeah,

510
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:39.599
I was thinking of the my that
was not on the shoe, the

511
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:44.279
raptor. I was the fucking Jurassic
Park watch from Burger King that had the

512
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:47.039
raptor eye. Like yeah, but
it looked like the Jordans. Yeah,

513
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:52.119
same thing. So that thing was
sick in terms of minutes worn on the

514
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:58.759
court. Twenty two, twenty three, NBA number one, Nike Kobe six

515
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:00.680
Yeah, yeah, Trode, that's
just yeah, you can't even by the

516
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:05.839
didn't even make him. That's why, um seabats just hit on those,

517
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:08.640
that's right. Yeah, the new
ones. So remember the ones that came

518
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:12.960
out right when Kobe had passed,
and they need the collab with the daughter

519
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:16.160
I had exclusive access on there.
Didn't notice, didn't see it. He

520
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:20.039
didn't get them. I didn't get
him probably ten grand right now. I

521
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:22.599
probably would have felt really dirty selling
them though. No, That's why I

522
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:23.279
told Seabasts. I was like,
dude, you might want to just rock

523
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:28.079
them. Yeah I had anyway,
I played in those for a long time.

524
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.000
I played in the five Z and
sixes. Great so far, Yeah,

525
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:35.279
they're great. Shoe number two Nike
PG six. Yeah, but Paul

526
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:37.359
Georgia, see that's what I mean. That's not that good looking of a

527
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.920
shoe. But a lot of guys
in the league go for function, now,

528
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:44.640
which I makes sense. He's got
a backward swish. That's interesting.

529
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:47.440
Yeah. Uh, Dennis Rodman did
it first? Mister Travis Scott, did

530
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:52.880
you did do that first? Number
three Lebron twenties? Yeah? I love

531
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:59.400
because it looked like Kobe's. I
never I wore the one through three Lebrons

532
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:01.240
and played in him. All great
shoes to play in, and then they

533
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:05.960
just weren't it for me. But
these ones, isn't that crazy Lebron twenties?

534
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:08.239
Yeah, that's great. Almost can
He's going to probably catch up to

535
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:10.960
Jordan's son, No, he will, and they're all shoes he's gonna play

536
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.480
in. Yeah, Like Jordan didn't
even play in all of them baseball years

537
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:20.199
in the retirement years. He didn't
play twenty years in the league. Number

538
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.519
four. I think the last shoe
he played in was the twenty Yeah,

539
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.320
with the halo strap around the angle, and those had like on the Wizards,

540
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:28.880
those had like a hologram looking fucking
box and ship didn't. One of

541
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:30.800
them had a metal box. Yeah, the seventeens. Those are sad.

542
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:34.760
Two pairs of those. Yeah,
you had like a metal briefcase box that

543
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:38.880
came with it like that, the
strap that covered the faces tough. Yeah,

544
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:44.079
uh, Kobe fives and Katie fifteen. The Katies are nice too.

545
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:46.000
The Katies are nice. Yeah.
See some of it's not even by anything,

546
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:50.400
like no way, Paul George is
more popular than Kevin Duran or Steph

547
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.599
Curry or nothing. But they're wearing
his shoe. I bet you that that

548
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:58.400
shoe though the Puma has like saved
Puma is like bottom line, that's gotta

549
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.440
be their number one selling shoe right
now. It's probably in America for sure.

550
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:04.400
Yeah, in America. I butcher
their basic Puma, like their song

551
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:06.840
with the foam, Yeah, that's
probably the main one. Those were so

552
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:08.320
sick, dude, Like there was
an era like in like I think freshman

553
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:10.960
year of high school or maybe early
junior higher It's like if you didn't have

554
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:14.400
those Pumas with the foam like you
were, Like I say, they look

555
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.559
real good with my Abacrombie it did. They were sick. I kind of

556
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:20.199
want a pair now, No,
they're cool those Yeah, yeah, those

557
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.800
are those. Yeah, those are
the Melo those are those are hot right

558
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.679
now? The green specially Electro Aqua. I kind of wanted a pair of

559
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:28.719
seeing them all the time like fun, I kind of want those. They

560
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.079
didn't like. They dived dove into
a little bit about the Nike that Jordan

561
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:35.639
one being illegal right because of the
color way. I don't I think their

562
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:38.239
percentages were off. Maybe I'm off. I thought it was a different percentage

563
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:42.719
because they said under fifty one percent
had to be white and or black,

564
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.719
which they didn't mention it could have
been black and you could only do forty

565
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:49.639
percent. I think the ratio is
different. Yeah, I'm not sure.

566
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.320
Yeah, but that was like a
sixty forty seventy thirty with team colors,

567
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:58.199
and then up until twenty seventeen,
don't quote me. Twenty eighteen you couldn't

568
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:00.880
wear any color that was in a
team color. Yeah, and then now

569
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:05.320
you can do whatever yellow. So
I think that's why that shoe might be

570
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:09.559
bopping, right, because it will
goes so crazy like Kobe wore the Grinches.

571
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:15.000
But that might have been in twenty
seventeen or um. They might have

572
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:16.400
just made a rule because it was
on Christmas. That again, whatever you

573
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:21.400
do it for the whole NFL like
still like not letting these guys play in

574
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.599
the cool shoes except for like pregame
warm ups is when they're wearing all those

575
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.519
Like it's like this, can we
just like like who cares? Who gives

576
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:30.639
a fuck about the shoes? Yeah? Yeah, it's kind of like the

577
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:32.440
whole UFC thing too. There's a
contract thing though, like oh, like

578
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:36.960
want you want you to be wearing
things that you can buy? Yeah,

579
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:38.920
I do understand that because even the
NBA, you're wearing a bunch of custom

580
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.719
shoes. But if you're at that
level, like let them wear whatever they

581
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.480
want, like you're making jersey sales. Yeah. Yeah, Like that's the

582
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:50.480
whole UFC thing too, right,
Like they can't wear anything yeah you know,

583
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:54.000
well yeah except for Dana White's Venom
brand. Yeah yeah, I didn't

584
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:57.320
know he owned part of that.
I think he owns that. Yeah,

585
00:36:57.320 --> 00:36:59.800
that's got to be a conflict interest. Yeah, I don't think anybody's like

586
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:01.840
buying it though, No, for
sure not. I've never seen a Venom

587
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:06.199
brand shit anywhere. It's because it's
fucking awful. You basically stole the shitty

588
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:10.239
energy drink branding. Yeah, and
like made it a clothing company shitty.

589
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:14.599
It is weird how that works because, yeah, they don't have anything to

590
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.679
obviously represent themselves because they can't do
the gloves, they can't do the pants,

591
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:20.440
you can't stylize it. Like that's
why boxing is kind of cool.

592
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:23.039
You come out hot. What did
USEFC used to be sick? Like that?

593
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:25.480
Dude, You guys come out with
like all these cool sponsors, all

594
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:30.880
in the shorts and stuff. Like
even in the rebou these guys over even

595
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:32.519
in the rebok era where it does
mess up the business, at least they

596
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:36.480
had like variations, like some guys
are short shorts, longer shorts, tights

597
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:37.960
not tights. What you know now
it literally looks all the same. And

598
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:42.400
I get that you probably want standardization, but if you look at at the

599
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.920
other sports, the NBA's come full
circle and done the opposite, right,

600
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.400
Like it was standardized beyond everyone's just
wearing a blank white shoe and then now

601
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.480
people want to represent themselves a little
bit. And it's only helped the culture

602
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:54.280
of the sport for sure. It's
no negative, and it's only helped the

603
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:59.039
shoe companies. And I doubt it's
taken away from anything the NBA's doing.

604
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.280
No, even balls loosened up,
Oh for sure. Yeah, well you

605
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:06.480
got guys like guys on the Yankees
they're wearing like the Jordan Ones customizing the

606
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:08.360
cleats and like, yeah, they're
a lot of guys are doing custom cleat

607
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:12.199
that's been going on for a little
while. And now like Ceci's Bathia was

608
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.880
out there pitching in like cool Gray
Elevens him pretty early. And Jeter in

609
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:20.199
the nineties. Yeah, yeah,
I had when I was playing baseball twelve

610
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:22.199
years, like every shoe I had, all the Jeters, Yeah, every

611
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:25.400
year. Yeah, like kind of
like spoiled. And before that I wasn't

612
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:29.039
buying him, but like I was, like that was my ship. No

613
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:31.400
other baseball players like had a bunch
of signature shit Ken Griffy, but that's

614
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:35.920
Nike. Also, like half the
Jeters were like his own kind of twist

615
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:37.559
on a Jordan design and someone we're
just straight up Jordan design, yeah,

616
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:42.559
or his own trainer, but those
guys definitely O Jordan. Oh yeah,

617
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:44.960
there's just no way, right,
Like Ken Griffy. When did hissue come

618
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:47.480
out in ninety four maybe so about
ten years maybe after ish, I'm making

619
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:52.000
that up in ninety six most like
one of the most iconic shoes ever for

620
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:53.599
sure, Griffin. That's when they
started to get funky. It's hard to

621
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:59.000
look at this and and divorce it
from, you know, knowing what happened.

622
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.280
But like as business owners, there
are sort of two things that in

623
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:06.880
my mind seemed like gimmes. One
of them was the just paying the fine

624
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:12.559
for for every time. Yeah,
just yeah, if you're investing two fifty,

625
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:19.079
Yeah, that's an easy one because
and then the giving him points,

626
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:22.440
giving him gross points on sales.
Yeah, it's yeah, no one else

627
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:27.760
was even gonna come, like even
the the lawyer, but his agent was

628
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.199
like, no one was going to
even come close. No one was gonna

629
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:31.920
else was gonna match that. Yeah
yeah, and if he doesn't have a

630
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:37.000
signature shoe with Adidas, yeah,
why would they. But that led us

631
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:42.360
to now, which is a discount
code on Instagram. Yeah yeah, that's

632
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:46.199
really right, Yeah exactly, except
that you can you can kind of fire

633
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:52.960
and disc in in you know,
those people and slightly rename or reformulate your

634
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:57.880
product or whatever if you if you're
using their name in the product. Um.

635
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:02.320
But then we're kind of all in, but they also thought they weren't

636
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:05.440
going to sell that much. Yeah. Yeah, would you say, oh,

637
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:07.639
what was most shoes I've ever sold? It? Once? Three million

638
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:09.519
pairs in a year. Yeah,
I think three million of basketball shoes he

639
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:12.920
said, right, I don't know, I think he said that. I

640
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:14.920
thought he said three million, but
I don't think he said what kind.

641
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:16.320
But I'm assuming that would have been
bast Yeah. I think he said three

642
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:22.000
million a year in basketball shoes.
And then the Jordan one justin one year

643
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:25.039
sold one hundred and sixty two million
dollars. Yeah. That was in eighty

644
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:28.639
five. Yeah, yeah, playing
with them, and he played with them

645
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:30.079
a little bit in eighty four,
Yeah, like testing them out all Yeah,

646
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:32.880
because his last year in college was
eighty three eighty four. First league

647
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:37.880
was eighty forty five. Yeah.
Crazy, Yeah, but you know,

648
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:42.920
it's hard doing the outcome to to
have, you know, bet against that.

649
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.880
But like if if you saw somebody, if you saw an athlete that

650
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:51.039
had great potential and your your business
slotted into that in some way, Yeah,

651
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:52.440
it's like why not? Right?
I don't think it was that.

652
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:57.880
They obviously built up the drama for
the movie and made Phil Knight like hop

653
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.880
the fence on the idea, but
like, if you're gonna sponsor three whatevers

654
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:06.480
for two fifty, it makes sense
to sponsor one dope guy for two fifty.

655
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:09.039
Like he didn't really change the budget
that much besides the Mercedes. Yeah,

656
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:12.639
the Royal. It's all your eggs
in one basket. But like they

657
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.440
didn't have a shot when they do
it. It sounds like they do it.

658
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:17.440
Did that every year. Every year
they would grab play rookies. So

659
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:22.199
then like you're you're making a twelve
month bat clear is not working? Also,

660
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:23.960
right, yeah, who are you
signing In the past, they didn't

661
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:28.239
mention all that because they probably didn't
want to bash names, you know,

662
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:31.000
like who they signed in eighty three
that flopped. Yea. But to me,

663
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:35.280
it's actually not that risky. All
right, the basketball department's gonna get

664
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:37.840
shut down. Let's give this one
last hope from like a data analysis business

665
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.039
owner. If we're you gonna swing
for the fence, it's like clearly like

666
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:45.199
the safe route and this like like
process you're doing with these execs. I

667
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:46.280
don't know shit. Remember the guy
was like, oh, let's take this

668
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:49.559
number six guy. Okay, what
do you like about his game. Yeah,

669
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:51.320
like you don't know shit. You
just know he's number six on the

670
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:52.920
four. He's like got like his
playmaking. He's like he had thirty assists

671
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:57.519
all year. Yeah, like they
don't know basketball, they don't know shit.

672
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:00.400
And even that seems pretty real too, because like, yeah, I've

673
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:05.360
met tons of marketers that have no
clue what's going on where like there's untangibles,

674
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:08.199
And that's kind of obviously what this
whole story is about is that he

675
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:15.239
could see the untangibles in Jordan.
But even that, like just purely gambling

676
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:21.320
on a draft pick turning into a
pro Yeah, I mean, no one

677
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.360
it's it was luck, right,
Yeah, it's all luck because no one

678
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:27.079
can ever you can never say like, oh this guy Jordan is gonna be

679
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.800
No one knew this biggest the biggest, you know, player of all time

680
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:32.519
right now. You can't. No, you can't just they got lucky.

681
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:36.360
Yeah, they made like some like
clear they saw something. Yeah, yeah,

682
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.440
this guy's gonna be really big.
He's gonna be like, you know,

683
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:43.599
a force in the league. But
now he's not going fucking fifth.

684
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:45.760
Yeah exactly. And they also played
that that whole thing like oh yeah,

685
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:50.280
you got cut from your osi of
the story you got cut from your your

686
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.440
high school team. It's like,
well, well, no he didn't.

687
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:58.639
He was a freshman on varsity trying
and they just demoted him back down to

688
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:00.719
JV. Yeah, the fresh he
didn't get a story is a little played

689
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:04.559
up. Did you get cut from
basketball? He wasn't playing basketball. I

690
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.480
was just talking to someone about that
and that this will obviously never happen in

691
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:09.320
this era, or we say that, but anton Coopo's kind of similar where

692
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:12.760
I don't think he played basketball too. He's like sixteen, he was all

693
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:16.320
yeah, but even that, like
Dennis Rodman literally didn't play a sport too.

694
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:20.159
He's like twenty two. Yeah,
that's fucking nuts, Like that's not

695
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:22.480
going to happen nowadays, just because
the telepool is too deep anymore. But

696
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:27.920
they do kind of play up the
Jordan high school cut thing. Yeah,

697
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:30.000
and it's like but it's like it's
such a he was still probably people.

698
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:31.960
Yeah, it was a play on
words. It's like, oh, he's

699
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:35.480
maybe just a little immature for the
for the side, he didn't have his

700
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:37.159
growth spurs. Yeah, I mean
that's the same with his sons. Like

701
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.199
I was just watching a bunch of
clips this morning about Lebron's kids. Uh,

702
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:45.280
Brawny six three and now eighteen go
to USC but his other sons a

703
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.199
fifteen year old junior going to be
a junior, I think. And he's

704
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:52.960
six six already and he's just shading
on people, you know, So like,

705
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:55.559
yes, so much depends on Yeah, when you I guess hit puberty,

706
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:59.519
you know what I mean. Like
that's the Kevin Durant's story. That's

707
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.039
all these guys like, oh,
they were six one in high school and

708
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:04.320
they were a point guard and then
they grew to seven foot and now their

709
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.280
freakos in the NBA. I think
he had to coupo. I think we

710
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:08.519
talked about in the past where I
mentioned to you guys, like they did

711
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:15.360
a story or a movie on him
on Disney. Plus it's just so Disney

712
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.159
and so corny. Oh yeah I
saw that. Yeah, but they never

713
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:22.239
watched the story so good. So
like if they would have just waited or

714
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:24.039
if a bigger you know, if
they didn't want to make it. It's

715
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:27.840
like a Disney Channel movie, you
know, straight to things. Yeah,

716
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.440
it's like made kind of Disney ask
very two lights made for some seven year

717
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:34.480
olds to understand but if they went
into it, yeah, they don't even

718
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:37.639
like show the darkness of being a
refugee from Africa. Yeah to grease you

719
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:42.199
know, but if they did that, I think a story like three of

720
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:45.079
his brothers made it to the NBA
eventually, like just an insane story they

721
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:51.800
all started playing after age twelve.
M That is more of like a oh

722
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:54.519
fuck story than yeah, Jordan,
Yeah, I think I've listened to a

723
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:59.599
podcast that played out that. It's
crazy story. It's crazy. So we

724
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:01.440
haven't this before, but list roight
out here anyway. Um, let's do

725
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:08.000
most favorite and least favorite character as
individually. Damn Okay, I think my

726
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:15.639
most favorite even though uh Matt Damon's
very likable in this, I do like

727
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.480
him, but I don't know why
I do. I just love Chris Tucker

728
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:22.960
no matter Sucker just kind of love
Chris Tucker in general. And then in

729
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:27.360
this he's also good, but he's
not like overbearing in the story. You

730
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:29.480
know, he's not like he's a
main role, but he's not a main

731
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:32.760
role kind of like Bateman. They
balanced the Chris Tucker very well. Yeah,

732
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:37.760
they didn't make him all too crazy
because mind. Yeah, but he's

733
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:39.920
still like funny enough. Um so
I'll probably go with Chris Tucker for my

734
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:46.599
underdog, Like that's a good one. But you Deane, Ah, I

735
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:52.119
guess the underdog kind of character or
the character I like the best. I

736
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:54.519
guess. I mean, I'm gonna
I'm gonna say I'm gonna sick with Matt

737
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:58.639
Damon. I thought he's just so
good. I'm a huge Matt Damon fan,

738
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:00.559
are you. Yeah. I love
the Born movies, the Born movies,

739
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.159
you know, like I love the
Born movies. I like, you

740
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:07.679
know, good Will Hunting is always
obviously a classic. I'm a huge Rounders

741
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:10.559
fan, Like I loved Rounders,
the movie about him being a pro poker

742
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:15.760
player, which I kind of like, uh, you know, showed us

743
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:17.079
like a little bit of that,
you know for fans. I think the

744
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:20.320
little bit of fan servers with them
gambling, and I know that he was

745
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:22.760
supposed to set up the whole narrative
that he like takes risks. Yeah,

746
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:24.639
but it was kind of reminded me
of Rounders, which is like one of

747
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:28.320
my favorite movies of all time.
So you know, I actually really I

748
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.920
liked his character. Yeah, he's
good. My favorite character was probably my

749
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:37.280
favorite performance was very a smallish character
and that's the guy who designed the shoe.

750
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:40.480
Yeah he's good too. Yeah,
like you can tell this is a

751
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:45.920
quirky dude. He's got stuff going
on and in the parking lot. Yeah

752
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:50.119
yeah, he's cool. Yeah.
And then they showed the real person's picture

753
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.760
at the end. It was pretty
good. It was pretty closet good,

754
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:59.639
like to have designed that the iconic
error will go like not it he didn't

755
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:01.480
do it during the course of the
film, but they in general they talk

756
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:06.280
about the fact that, oh yeah
they did this time. Yeah yeah,

757
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:10.480
yeah, it's like amazing. Yeah, the thought that somebody would come up

758
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:15.039
with that and it would just resonate
immediately. Yeah. How many more sneakers

759
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.480
that guy came out with, I'm
not sure. Well, Tinker came in

760
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:21.480
pretty soon after that. Yeah,
that's why I need Tinker to the three.

761
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:23.840
Yeah. So maybe that guy only
did the twos or not. You

762
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:25.880
have to look it up. I'm
like, honestly, the twos for me

763
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:30.599
have always just been like a sideline
to the story of the Jordan's joke growing

764
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:32.559
on me though. The lows are
sick, like the lows that off white

765
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:36.519
lows that are on me, but
like, look fake crumbled like those are

766
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.199
pretty so hard. I'm not gonna
lie. What about the jabad Bean threes?

767
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:43.559
D I don't like anything that that
guy does, like j Do you

768
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:45.599
see the threes though? I don't
know. That's not like the new ones

769
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:50.880
brand new, the ones you gave
to Calida or whatever. Maybe no,

770
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:52.960
yeah, they're not because the other
ones are too loud. But I like

771
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:54.840
the ones. The new ones have
a fucking light light in the tongue,

772
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:04.159
like turn it on. Fucking yeah. His twos were loud, so back

773
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:08.719
to the yeah the uh so,
uh yeah, I wish they would have

774
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:14.159
touched on Tinker. I know that'd
been called st customs buddy of mine.

775
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:19.039
He made me some custom caffeine and
Kilo shoes air Force ones. Uh.

776
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.800
We used our coffee bag as the
solution ship. So he got hired for

777
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:24.800
the props for this movie. Oh
no, Well, he made the shoe

778
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:29.280
that is in the movie. He
made that from from at his shop.

779
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:32.199
So he used to do custom met
cons and CrossFit. I met him at

780
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:36.360
regionals one year and we just kind
of hit it off because we're talking about

781
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:38.599
sneakers. Some of those guys are
crazy, like the shoe surgeon well dude,

782
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:43.360
so he was just doing this ship
at his house. Great cool story

783
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.119
st customs. It's fucking paint and
shoes in his garage, right, blah

784
00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:50.599
blah blah. Gets a big at
following and it opens up a custom sneaker

785
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:52.880
school where you can go and like
he bought a fucking space. Think about

786
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:57.679
how much balls this guy's got.
Open up a space and like you you

787
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.519
people can pay you to come in
and you can make shoes from scratch.

788
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:05.079
That sick and it's like so niche, So like, man, are people

789
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:07.039
gonna come and do this? Yeah? And then like I just watched it

790
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.599
slowly on Instagram because I was following
him, you know, and like it's

791
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:16.679
just like every yeah, yeah and
uh. And now he's got this like

792
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:21.760
massive school. It's like sells out
pop. You can make your you can

793
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:24.079
make any shoe you want of any
materials. It's like, you know,

794
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:27.880
most people are going then they're making
kind of like their own Travis Scott.

795
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.760
They're making them anyways. So he
got hired to do the that's the shoe

796
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:32.800
for the for the movie. That's
cool that they like he's got all this

797
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:37.800
the community. Yeah yeah, And
after it came out he uh was able

798
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:42.119
to like talk about it and then
like showed all the process and like it

799
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:44.360
was. It was pretty sick.
I was like, what the fuck are

800
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:46.280
you crazy? I thought they just
wanted to a vault somewhere and pulled out

801
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:52.079
them. Now they'll deteriorate. Yeah, I guess they'll deteriorate. They literally

802
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:54.239
have clips like sneakers like that that
people try to save from the eighties and

803
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:57.920
if you like literally step on him, they explode. Wow, they just

804
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:00.360
like dissolve. Yeah, the materials
just weren't. But if you walk in

805
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:05.039
him, well the way that the
yeah that's the dry air, the rubber.

806
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:09.480
Yeah. Yeah. Least favorite guy, Yeah I don't know, I

807
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:15.800
mean the lawyer, yeah, right, like and but that's obviously like what

808
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:17.199
they tried to do. Yeah,
you're supposed to hate that guy kind of

809
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:20.679
Yeah, and he's not as bad
as I thought. Actually, you know,

810
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:22.920
they didn't make him as slimy.
Well. The thing that bugged me

811
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:28.840
was was he said, if you
can sign this deal, uh, you'll

812
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:30.800
be my best friend. And like, if I was Damon's character, I

813
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:34.639
would have turned it around on him
after they signed him and said, Okay,

814
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:36.559
now you have to be my best
friend. Yeah. Yeah, and

815
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:38.480
they say the dude at dinner by
himself after selling his company and yeah,

816
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:43.559
like a hunter mill Yeah yeah in
the in the eighties. I know he

817
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:47.119
probably sold it in the eighties rather
than he probably I mean by the vibe

818
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:51.400
of this, who knows how accurate
is, but you'd assume Jordan or his

819
00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:54.280
mom fired that fool. Yeah,
right, and then he sold his company.

820
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:58.719
Because if you would have had Jordan
through his entire career, you ain't

821
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:00.960
still in your company making a lot
more one hundred milk. Get a piece

822
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.440
of that, all of it.
He's getting a piece of the money that

823
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.119
Jordan gets. For this, you
would get a yeah, you get whatever

824
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:10.320
percentage of he could be whatever he
makes percentage wives and they said he's making

825
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:15.800
four hundred mill pass of right now. That's crazy. That's crazy for just

826
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:22.480
his name being on and there's keep
zero. He's golfs yeah, but for

827
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:25.000
funzies. Yeah, there is like
a Jordan golf team. I golf in

828
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:30.679
Jordan ones low top shadows with the
deals with some special they're like they honestly

829
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:31.280
you can wear them. I could
wear them in here. Yeah, but

830
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:36.000
yeah, the bottom is like the
spots yeah, but they're like super low

831
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:37.800
profile, so you could wear them
like, yeah, you wouldn't even know.

832
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:40.920
Yeah, those are sick. Uh. Just as a side note,

833
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:44.679
I've never had anything against Nike,
but I cannot fucking wear the shoes.

834
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:47.480
They're just too narrow like they are. You can see these hocus see how

835
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:51.679
wide these fers are. Those are
not narrow. Yeah, I can't.

836
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:53.639
I can't wear Nikes. Yes,
I was a little bit like that as

837
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:57.079
a kid. I have a white
issue foot, the ones that are probably

838
00:51:57.079 --> 00:51:59.320
one of their whitest shoes, especially
the newer ones. I feel like,

839
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.360
yeah, and that's why I just
don't lice them. Yeah, I um

840
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:06.119
man. At least there wasn't that
many characters in this in this movie,

841
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:07.840
and they're all kind of likable.
The guy who went to get advice from

842
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:12.199
like I was cool, Phil Knights
cool. Oh, they talked about his

843
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.960
He still has the letter someone offering
three million dollars for the half dream blew

844
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:19.800
my mind, Right, I was
an apocryphal story. It turns out that

845
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:23.400
it's true. That's crazy. Yeah, I did know that he went off

846
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:27.960
script that Martin Luther King, I've
heard that the the I have a dream

847
00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:34.519
speech second half of that speech,
it was extemporaneous freestyle off the dumb off

848
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:38.079
the first freestyle. Yeah, I
guess I hate having a piggyback, But

849
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:42.400
there just wasn't much depth of characters, like I liked everybody else. Yeah,

850
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:44.159
I guess the lawyer guy, but
he was supposed to be shitty.

851
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:46.000
So it's kind of like, yeah, they made they made light shit like,

852
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:49.559
they didn't make them totally evil.
It was like the Adida's people.

853
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:51.440
You're like, well, I don't
like them, but they didn't make them

854
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:53.639
evil. Well you're just like,
a, Yeah, all of us have

855
00:52:53.719 --> 00:53:00.000
dealt with people in our industry that
you didn't love him, but you knew

856
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:02.639
you could work with them. Yeah, they're fine, And that's that's kind

857
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:05.920
of that's that guy in my mind. Yeah he's not terrible. Yeah,

858
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:07.960
I do deal with that lawyer who
grew the agent who cares. Yeah,

859
00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:10.559
for sure, for sure. Feel
night though I thought they did really good

860
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:14.639
too. I kind of wish she
was in it more. Um and then

861
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:17.920
yeah, I wish they would have
touched on Tinker because when did The Three

862
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:22.960
come out? Probably nineteen ninety or
eighty nine, the Three I think eighty

863
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:24.599
eight because they did every single year, I think for a bit. Yeah

864
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:28.000
it was. Yeah, it was
eighty five, and then eighty six,

865
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:30.079
what a great year. Eighty eight
is six, eighty seven for the for

866
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:32.480
the two, and then yeah,
eighty eight, eighty nine, Yeah,

867
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:36.079
I know it was. No,
the four was eighty nine. Yeah,

868
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:40.159
because I still have my original Jordan
fours from eighty nine. He born eighty

869
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:43.000
nine. I was born eighty eight. At me too, I thought we

870
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.000
were three's guys together. I know
we were, but I got but I

871
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:50.039
got, but I got the fours
as a kid, the white ones,

872
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:52.880
and I still fucking have them.
I remember my real laces. It feels

873
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:57.320
like a real shoe. They're crazy. That was shrunk, Yeah, yeah,

874
00:53:57.559 --> 00:54:00.159
leather. It was all legit materials. They still like brock warm.

875
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.599
Yeah. Like it was like,
I should ask my mom more because I

876
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:09.000
mean, she was literally in Beaverton
from eighty two to eighty eight, eighty

877
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:13.280
two to eighty nine, so she
was kind of in the middle. And

878
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:16.079
Beaverton's not that big, No,
it's a suburb of Portland, So like,

879
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:20.199
I wonder if she remember some of
the hustle and bustle. I do

880
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:23.960
remember my dad he had Trailblazers season
tickets at the time. I mean I

881
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:30.239
remember him telling me. I obviously
don't remember, because but um, Portland

882
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:32.119
had been like a sports town in
some sense, because there's still like,

883
00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:37.840
yeah, like Oregon, you know, the Ducks were a thing, the

884
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:42.079
Beavers were a thing. Trailblazers were
decent. They weren't they were an amazing

885
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:45.519
but they were decent. Um.
So I do wonder what the culture was

886
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:49.000
like in Beaverton, which I think
so far west from the rest of that

887
00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:52.119
mess. Um, but I had
to have a name, you know,

888
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:53.360
like we even know that companies that
are going on here, you know,

889
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:59.280
the Trifectas, the cold Plunges,
the whatever, like we know, and

890
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:02.119
those aren't even close to what Nike
was. No, even though Nike was

891
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:06.920
smallish in the basketball scene, I
remember being in Beaver's very briefly, like

892
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:10.400
on a sales trip or something like
that, and that like eighty probably seven

893
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:15.000
eighty eight, something like that,
I certainly knew about Nike had to be

894
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:19.239
then, yeah, yeah, and
it's probably semi known that it wasn't in

895
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:22.559
a big city like a New York
or a Boston or a Yeah. I

896
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:28.119
mean, how many billion dollars companies
were in. Uh yeah, probably the

897
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:30.880
only one. Yeah. The funny
thing that kind of was like a past

898
00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:37.079
like a pass line was a throwaway
line. I mean was when Phil and

899
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:39.599
Knight was like they're talking about how
like African or no, was was it,

900
00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:43.800
uh Chris Tucker, we talk about
Africa. Americans aren't going to run

901
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:46.159
twenty six miles for fun? Yeah? Yeah, it was like, yeah,

902
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:49.639
that was funny, like that was
only for like white people did that

903
00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:52.519
kind of shit. Yeah, kind
of joke and that was funny because like

904
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.679
obviously, like all the main Kenyan
guys are like dominating. Yeah, now

905
00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:00.719
two hour fucking yeah Marathon. I
wonder if the scene was different there for

906
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:04.440
endurance running and then obviously I think
that that was like, yeah, a

907
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:09.079
light foreshadow of how tied Nike is
two hip hop two basketball too. Black

908
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:14.559
culture in America now right, like
now Nike's just literally it everywhere. But

909
00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:17.159
like even when I was growing up, like air Force ones, it was

910
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:20.400
part of the black culture. You
know, It's not like regular kids were

911
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:23.320
wearing air Force ones or even Jordan's
as much like sure Seinfeld and people dabbled

912
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:27.679
in it, but well, the
Jordan Ones like the thing that they know

913
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:30.400
they can't really doesn't fit the store, doesn't matter. But like the skateboarding

914
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:34.440
scene in the eighties was like skateboarding
was huge in the eighties, right,

915
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:39.039
and the number one shoe that all
the guys wore skateboarding was the Jordan one.

916
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:45.400
So a ton of those fucking sales
were going to young kids on skateboards.

917
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:46.800
Like they kind of hinted at the
guy like it was into skateboarding also

918
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:51.519
that yeah, but like go watch
like the Tony Hawk, like the old

919
00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:58.000
school um H. Powell stuff,
search for randomal Chin video. It's like

920
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:00.719
they're all, you know, Lance
Mountain, all those guys, they're all

921
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:04.000
wearing Jordan ones out entire like movie
video. There's no such thing as a

922
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:06.880
skate shoe. Two. Probably it
was the Jordan one. Yeah, Like

923
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:12.320
the everybody bought the Chicago colorway or
the baby Blue ones, but like the

924
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:15.760
Royals, which is my favorite color
way, those ones like nobody wanted,

925
00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:19.760
so they were like dirt cheap at
all the stores. You can get him

926
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:22.480
for like fifty fifty percent off.
Like all these kids were just skating these

927
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:27.840
black and blue like Royal him up
on your skateboard. You're gonna destroy him.

928
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:29.800
And so it was like, yeah, it was like the number one

929
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:32.000
like shoe for skateboarding. So anybody
that skateboard you had Jordan once. Yeah.

930
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:36.559
And the culture like, you know, the Seinfeld Like Seinfeld was fucking

931
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:38.440
Michael Jackson, you know, like, yeah, the show is comedy,

932
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:43.199
like he was so popular and he's
stomping around in Jay One's Yeah as a

933
00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:45.159
Knicks fan, yeah, you know. Yeah, the whole culture about it

934
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:47.679
is funny. Yeah, it's sick, but yeah, the whole scale the

935
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:52.440
skateboarding scene was a major impact I
feel like on the Jordan brand, like

936
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:57.480
in the early early eighties. Yeah, it kind of blows my mind how

937
00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:04.000
international the um the skateboard thing was
it back then. I mean, I

938
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:06.760
mean it's a big deal now,
but it was a big deal back then

939
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:09.239
in a way that I did.
I don't think I really understood before.

940
00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:15.920
Like we were on this trip.
We were in Wales and we were up

941
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:20.880
in the hills, like in this
remote town or whatever. This guy has

942
00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:23.119
this coffee truck and we're talking to
him and he's like, oh, where

943
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:24.920
are you from, while we're from
California, said, oh, I've been

944
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:28.199
to California a bunch of times.
Oh what took you to California? It's

945
00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:29.840
like, yeah, I want a
bunch of a kid. I was a

946
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:32.679
big skateboarder and I was in Santa
Cruz like a bunch of times. It's

947
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:39.679
like, you flew from fucking whales
to to California. Find the same skateboard

948
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:44.400
he said, Yeah, we don't
have like big open empty pools here.

949
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:46.639
It's like, I guess that makes
sense. But if everyone's there doing it,

950
00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:50.000
I mean even now, like any
niche still does that, right,

951
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:52.760
Like everyone's flying to Houston to go
to Alpha Land, And if you're a

952
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:54.199
power left for a bodybuilder, you're
gonna go find that scene. Like you

953
00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:58.800
can find a barbell anywhere, but
can you find like the barbell everyone doing

954
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:00.960
it? Yeah, where's the pulse? Even CrossFit? Yeah, they're coming

955
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:04.920
to Sack, They're coming to La
They're coming to San Diego because California kind

956
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:08.159
of like was the pitome of that
now maybe yeah, obviously Kentucky where Riches

957
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:13.599
or whatever, but yeah, or
tennessee my crossfits, that's a whole other

958
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:15.039
plot. That's weird. They're in
a fucking weird place right now. The

959
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:19.000
sh it's like fallen apart over.
Yeah, it's been a little rough a

960
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:21.639
couple years. Weird. All right, Well, let's rate this thing,

961
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:25.280
and I think that we should rate
this on UM. One iconic image from

962
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:31.079
the whole thing, and that is
the um the Mercedes three A d sc

963
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:35.360
L. Yeah. So that was
my first car. You had that car?

964
00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:38.280
I had the car that's funny and
uh and the navy blue. I

965
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:43.400
didn't CONVERTI it was a hard job
CONVERTI. I didn't know that was a

966
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:46.159
Jordan thing. I never really I
never heard about the car because I always

967
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:50.360
called it the Beverly Hills Cop because
that's the Beverly Hills cop car. So

968
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:52.599
I always knew it is that.
But that was my first car, my

969
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:55.280
silver. His was red. Oh
Beverly Hills Cop. Yeah. I think

970
00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:59.719
he has one in each Beverly Hills
Cop. So it depends on which I

971
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:02.480
think it the same car in all
three. Uh. Mine was navy blue.

972
01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:05.599
My dad bought it for like three
grand I mean it was his.

973
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:08.000
Technically I was fucking sixteen, but
I drove that silly thing around. It

974
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:10.960
was cool. Yeah, I didn't
know. Now it's cooler ease at Jordan

975
01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:14.760
because Beverly Hills Cop. I'm not
a big fan, you know. I

976
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:16.880
I love Eddie Murphy, but Beverly
Hills Cops whatever. Yeah, like the

977
01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:20.599
first I never got into those.
Yeah I didn't either, even though despite

978
01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:23.360
yeah Eddie Murphy being dope and out. Yeah, era, um so we're

979
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:28.639
doing it on what on benzos?
Yeah? Yeah, I actually really liked

980
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:31.440
it. I left it in a
really good mood. It's like a weird,

981
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:35.440
feel good movie. It's obviously right
up my alley with sneakers, basketball

982
01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:39.599
and like apparel in business. I
might give it like a four two maybe

983
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:43.159
at four four two out of five. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. It

984
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:45.800
was one of the first movies over
in the last five years that I left.

985
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:46.360
I was like, oh, it
was pretty good, Like I enjoyed

986
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:49.840
it, Like I think it was
good and I enjoyed it, where like

987
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:52.800
I saw Guardians the Galaxy over the
weekend too, and I was like,

988
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:54.519
oh, that's good. Is that? Like? Is that like the great

989
01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:58.920
this? It's also sad though,
right dude. I cried. Oh no,

990
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:02.400
mom cried too. Yeah it's really
sad. Oh that's not good.

991
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:05.840
But it was good. Yeah,
yeah, it was good. I think

992
01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:09.320
it was good. Yeah, four
four Benzos, do you know, I

993
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:15.239
uh, I really enjoyed it.
I uh I felt it was a little

994
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:16.840
fans servicing at times, but like
like I said earlier, like it kind

995
01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:21.199
of has to be right. It
wasn't too long, right, It was

996
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:23.679
like I feel like two at length, Like the cast was great. You

997
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:28.360
know, I honestly I hate to
copy, but I'm gonna I'm gonna stick

998
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:30.079
with the four two Yeah, four
as well. I might win them a

999
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:34.119
little awards or something. Hey,
they might get some love, but potentially,

1000
01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:37.719
yeah, you get Ben Affleck and
uh and uh Matt Damon and Room

1001
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:42.760
together having like a conversation, and
that's like everything is gonna work out.

1002
01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:46.159
Everything you see them do together anywhere
is absolutely believable for sure. Yeah,

1003
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:50.000
Phil Knight, Yeah you played a
good Phil Night. I think regardless of

1004
01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:52.559
you know, any other scenes that
either one of them have and anything you

1005
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:55.480
see them in, when you see
them together, it just fucking works.

1006
01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:59.519
They just like know how to play
off each other. So well, I'm

1007
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:00.880
actually gonna go a little higher.
I'm gonna go four and a half on

1008
01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:07.079
Like I really, I mean,
all of all the things that we watched

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that that have been we weren't.
We haven't seen that many that were um,

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you know, not actually documentaries.
They were, you know, fictionalized

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01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:21.639
versions of trash um. This one
was. It was really good. It's

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01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:25.639
definitely a feel good I was happy
watching it. I was. I loved

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01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:30.079
the take on on the characters.
I thought, you know, even when

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01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:34.760
you can see the you know,
sometimes actors just entirely disappear in roles,

1015
01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:38.079
and sometimes you can really just see
the actor and you know he's doing his

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01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:42.920
interpretation of this character, and you're
you're supposed to see both at the same

1017
01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:45.400
time. And it was supposed to
enhance the experience. This is that movie

1018
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:50.440
from me. Everybody everyone was cast
to kind of type. Yeah, I

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01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:54.159
mean the only the only outlier was
just fucking Matt Dammon looking fat. So

1020
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:59.000
yeah. Yeah, they were like
the wig on feel he uh feel nice?

1021
01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:00.320
That was going to say that one
that was rolling off a little bit.

1022
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:04.079
But when you see a picture,
so yeah, that too. And

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I think they purposely like try to
turn up his goofy. Yeah you know,

1024
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:10.159
like so like he was supposed to
be the comedic break. Yeah,

1025
01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:14.320
yeah, he's supposed to be the
comedic break. Yeah, it looked it

1026
01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:16.760
was funny because it looked like Matt
or it looked like ben Affleck was like

1027
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:21.800
in really good shape underneath the whole
like sloppy mass. Because I think he's

1028
01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:23.920
like probably in Batman shape probably,
and he like made this because like I've

1029
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:27.559
seen him when he looks softer his
faces and that chills all that end of

1030
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:30.199
throwing him in like bright pink tights
like they're doing the whole bang with him

1031
01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:34.079
the runner Ship. But yeah,
he was wearing like a white jacket when

1032
01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:38.679
his shoulders are enormous. Yeah,
he was on He's on the TRT Batman

1033
01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:42.719
diet right now. He is on
the ben the Batman's ups for sure.

1034
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:45.960
Not the sig. He's not in
cigarette bend shape. The meme where he's

1035
01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:50.079
in that ye spoken the sig the
movie is that one of like some seventies

1036
01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:53.079
movie where he is a wig like
that too. I swear like he's worn

1037
01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:58.559
that wig. Probably it's probably the
same wig argo. Oh maybe if he

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01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:01.079
was, he's under a little bit. Yeah, I saw that a long

1039
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:03.960
time. It's all about the town. That's a whole town. Skin love

1040
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:09.559
The town sounds good, sounds good. Yeah, poor Jeremy Renner, dude,

1041
01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:13.559
Yeah, Um, that's it,
so we got Yeah, it was

1042
01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:15.679
good. It's free. Yeah,
well if you have Amazon Prime. I

1043
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:18.920
would have if the piggyback, if
I would have had to have paid,

1044
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:23.159
and I would have gave it the
same score, didn't take it take away,

1045
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:26.920
I would Still it's good. It's
really good. I mean the fact

1046
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:30.039
that we're getting that kind of a
product for free in twenty twenty three can't

1047
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:32.679
really I mean free right, we're
you know whatever, we're paying monthly for

1048
01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:38.199
it. But yeah, the great
movie. I agree. Yeah. Where

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01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:40.440
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