Nov. 3, 2023

AMRAPS for Powerlifting?

AMRAPS for Powerlifting?

We ganked this week’s question from the /Powerlifting sub-Reddit: “Is there a cut off range for AMRAPS?”

\What does AMRAP mean, and does it have a place in powerlifting training? And as to the original question, how many reps is too many?...

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We ganked this week’s question from the /Powerlifting sub-Reddit: “Is there a cut off range for AMRAPS?”

\What does AMRAP mean, and does it have a place in powerlifting training? And as to the original question, how many reps is too many?

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so I'm pulling this question off of
off of the subreddit for powerlifting. I

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don't go here very often, but
I have dump jumped in lately just watching

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what people had to say about the
the WRPF pro met So here's the question

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is from I'm not going to credit
this person because they don't necessarily follow us.

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Is there a cutoff range for an
am rap and I guess we should

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probably start with what an am rap
so as many reps as possible? But

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is it as many reps as possible
till failure till death to till death death

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to us part? Yeah, I
think when you're am rap in. You

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know, it's been used as a
strength condition forever. It got i think,

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really popular in CrossFit because a lot
of times it would be part of

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a competition or part of your test, and it would be within a time

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limit, so you're doing you know, ten burpies. It could also stand

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for like as many rounds as possible, Yeah, the ten burpees and then

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as many chin ups as you can
within a minute. In power lifting sense

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or bodybuilding sense, you'll use it
perhaps to just gain more volume, to

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kind of gauge where you are,
or to hit like a full out rep

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PR at a certain weight. And
I think each one kind of has a

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different ending point. You know,
if it's just part of a regular program

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and you're whether you're building muscle,
et cetera. Hopefully it's not, yeah,

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because an am RAP is like a
setting, and then we also need

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an intensity involved. So either you
choose a weight and then which chance you're

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probably testing yourself with three fifteen bench
and you're gonna go all out, or

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a lot of times it might be
an am wrap with an intensity base where

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you have like an RPE at the
end, where you probably save reps in

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the tank. If you're powerlifting,
typically you're always going to kind of say

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one in the tank. There's very
few times you're going to go RPE ten.

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There's just kind of no purpose to
it. It's going to fry you

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too much, and then the chance
of missing is just obviously up. Then

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it's just not necessary. You can
make all the progress you ever want hitting

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RPE nine's nine and a halfs.
Obviously it's hard to gauge, so you

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can missweight still, but similar goes
with an am rap. You know,

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you might work up to a percentage
and hit an am rap. You might

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work up to a intensity and hit
an am rap. If you're bodybuilding,

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I know, you know, renaissance
puritization. Mike can then use am wraps

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sometimes they'll do you do and I
do it a lot of my programming too.

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When we're trying to catch some volume
or intensity, that will do like

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two sets of five, you know, at eighty percent, and then we'll

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do one set of five am wrap
after that at the same load. And

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that's just kind of a way to
get extra push and then to make sure

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the intensity for iypertrophee is where we
need at the end there. So that's

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kind of an am wrap. It's
a drop set. Well, you just

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no, because the weight could be
the same, it could be a straight

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set. It could be right.
So say you're doing two by five and

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eighty percent and you know those end
up being RPE sevens. Then the one

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by one by am wrap at eighty
percent, you probably push to an RB

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eight or nine just to catch that
intensity. If the goal is I percha

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fhe, obviously intensity is going to
be our main indicator, So we want

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to get close to failure. And
if you're strengthen you know, if your

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strengths a goal, probably less m
reps are needed, you know. I

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think one of the questions is,
yeah, like how many reps is too

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many reps? Yeah? And just
like if strengths the goal. You know,

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this might be controversial, I don't
think so, but like, you

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don't really, in my opinion,
need to do anything over like seven eight

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reps ever on a compound movement,
and even if you're bodybuilding, you don't

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need to. I think there's uses
for it for sure, and other exercises

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like a curl. You know,
doing a heavy set of five is probably

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just a lot on your joints,
So you can curl obviously higher reps,

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but two in compounds are bigger movements, you know, the five to eight

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rep range. You can build muscle
sets a three, You can build muscle

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all the way up to sets of
twenty thirty. But it's just kind of

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like what's going to cause the most
fatigue? Doing a heavy as set of

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thirty is going to get you more
sore and fuck up your training longer.

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And I find the same with compounds, like why would we need to deadlift

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a heavy asset of nine when I
can get the similar results by doing a

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set of five or six fuel less, beat up, be less sore,

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and be able to train again soon. So yeah, a lot of AM

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wrap stuff makes more sense to me
with crossfitter conditioning in mind, or muscle

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endurance depending. You know, if
you're like a regular athlete rather than a

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strength athlete, and we can catch
some volume on different exercises and it can't

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be used for anything. It can
be biceps all the way up to sprints.

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You know, you're doing ten yard
sprints as many rounds as possible within

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a certain amount of time or something. But yeah, hopefully that's a very

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general guide. Yeah, I mean, basically it's an internal it's a decision

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based on how how everything's feeling in
the moment, like what the weight is

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and what the reps are and how
long you go. Like yeah, but

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there there is a diminishing returns at
some point. Yeah. It's kind of

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like everything with programming, like what's
the intent behind it, Like why do

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you need an AM wrap? And
with conditioning, it's probably to test yourself

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so you can do the same thing
in six weeks and see if you get

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more rounds or more reps in right
with strength training. There's definitely some pieces

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you can use from it, but
it's probably not something I would use a

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ton, Probably not the most critical
thing. Yeah, just Sara, You're

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