Comedian Nick Scopoletti

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I guess we're running now, I guess, so, I guess.

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So welcome.

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This is fifty percent facts and I'm with my one

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hundred percent friend next couple of weeks.

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What's up, Jim, one hundred percent friend, one hundred percent lover?

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Yeah, all those things, yes, wife, Yeah, I have Okay,

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this is something I haven't did not tell you. I like,

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I almost texted you this last year, like so many times,

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and I could never get the wording right.

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So I'm gonna say it, and then we'll see what happens,

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all right, where it goes from here.

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So you and I got together last summer, not this

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past summer, but the summer before New York, Yeah, New York.

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I watched you eat, which was exciting.

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I was like, what's what else is coming?

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We had a we had a conversation. We hadn't seen

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each other in person in a while, right, several years,

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and although you know we we we text on it

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on infrequent and then sometimes frequent basis right, And I

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walked away from it from our from our little meeting there,

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and I thought, Nick is just like one of the

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warmest people ever. And I don't even know how that's

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the case, because you just saw cynical sometimes and whatever,

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and like you know, and and then like it was

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like a great conversation and I felt really wonderful walking

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away from it, except that it's like we haven't. It

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sucks that I don't get you to do that all

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the time.

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Because yeah, it's really cool, dude, I feel you. Yeah

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you're saying I could be cynical sometimes, because I definitely can.

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Be a little bit.

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Yeah, no, it's do you know what it is? Man?

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I am literally I say this to my friends all

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the time, even just our generation collective, like all my

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friends in their mid thirties whatever, we're like fighting our

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ancestors so hard, like like we are fighting.

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You know.

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It's a different culture now, right, more like therapy. You're

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more aware of shit. I catch shit coming up, Like

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I'm like, oh, that's my grandmother, Uh, that's my dad,

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or like you you know, and if I spend time

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with you know, everyone pretty much my family, my mother,

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everyone's dead, just my dad and I Not to start

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off on a bummer note, but when I see my

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dad and I see him have like anxieties and different shit,

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and I'm like, oh that's where I get that. Fuck

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where I see, like him getting pissed about something. I'm like, yeah,

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there's it. That's me, I know, Like fuck so yes,

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I do. I fight my goddamn hardest to like be

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you exp people with that again, Like I first of all,

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the fact that you said I was so warm and whatever,

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thank you. That's how most people view me. But there

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are moments where I'm just like I really have a

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tony soprano vibe where I'm just like fuck this and

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fuck you and I want to fucking smash your head

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into the wall. Like it's all that stuff, but it

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just you gotta find out where that ship comes from,

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you know, and then kind of handle it and understand that,

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like the feelings are real, but they're not like real

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these you're making ship up in your head sometimes or

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you're telling yourself a story that feels convenient or whatever.

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But I appreciate you saying that. Jim, you're the fucking man.

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You know you're the man let's kiss on air.

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Yeah, I think that.

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I mean, I keep seeing this meme going around, and

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I think it's I think it's pretty legitimate that.

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That things are never quite a bad.

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Situations are never quite as bad as we think they are,

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we make them out to be in our heads and

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I don't know how to stop doing that.

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But you know, it's it is the hardest thing.

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It's a protective reflex.

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I think.

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You know, you start, you plan for the worst.

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Yeah, like you just expect, Yeah, you just expect things

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to go a certain way, and like the slightest I know,

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for me, sometimes the slightest, like slight from someone or

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like infraction of even at work and you're like, ah,

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fucking god, damn motherfighter people, everyone's trying to fuck with me.

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And you're like, no, it's just you know, like I

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work at you know, I work at Equinox, and like

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your boss will talk to you and be like, you know,

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you gotta do this, this and this, and I'd be

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like yeah, but all I don't want And then you're like, well,

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I'm not really doing what I'm supposed to be doing

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right now, Like maybe I just stop being a fucking

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baby and like the world's out to get It's like, no,

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I'm just not really doing my job. It's full capacity.

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That's all he's asking or she is asking of me.

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You know.

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It's just like but that comes with a lot of

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fucking a lot of work. So and I've done a

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lot of work on myself and it won't stop.

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So, yeah, setting your day job beside for a second.

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Yeah, you're you're still doing the comedy thing.

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Yeah, I am still a stand up comic. I got

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a podcast on iHeartRadio with the great Least Lampinelli. I

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do that. I've been a stand up for seven years,

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making some money from it and taking acting classes. I've

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gotten some play readings, not actual play productions. I've auditioned

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for stuff, but auditioning has been fun. It's it's it's

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all been well and good, and comedy has been great.

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But yeah, that's what I've been doing for a while,

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and you know, I enjoy it. But there are you know,

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talk about being cynical. There's moments where I'm like.

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I decide to do this.

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Like why, but also like what else would I be doing?

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Yeah?

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What is it really taking the place of.

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Like can I'd be spending my time better? Or yeah?

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Like what the the answers? No, The answer is if

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I didn't have this stuff, you go crazy. I'd be

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sitting right here on my couch in my apartment and

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I would find other outlets, whether it's you know, food,

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which is a favorite one of mine, or just something else,

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like I need something outside of work. Do I want

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to make it my full time thing? I guess I

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keep you know, you try shit, keep going. I guess,

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gun to my head, I don't really know. I just

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keep trying shit and just having fun with it and

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just seeing where things go.

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You feel like it's moving.

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I feel like it's yeah. I mean, I wouldn't if

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I didn't feel like I had potential or the ability

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to turn it into something, I definitely would have stopped. Like, dude,

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people who like people who like have been bombing on

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open mics for five years and keep going. I don't

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know how they do it. Like I was lucky enough

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by like my third time in open mic, I started

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to like kind of get it and I was like, Okay,

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this is clicking a little bit. But yeah, I mean,

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I'm making money pretty consistently from comedy, get good opportunities, actings,

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new It's only been about a year, but you know,

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I've had auditions for things, and the theme of my

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life if anything, is like I've been getting by on

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sheer likability, like you do have that? I mean, dude,

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Like it's how I graduated high school, like I just was.

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I didn't do well in high school, but I wasn't

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an asshole. So my teachers were just like come on, man,

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and I'm like, yeah, I don't know. I just was

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like in my own head and like a little sad

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and like on steroids. I was just like playing football

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and just like this is my life and like, no,

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you have to do homework. I'm like, nah, I you

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have to do that. We have to do that for

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I'm fun, which like gets you certain places. But yeah,

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at the end of the day, it's fun and I

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like it, and so I'm just gonna keep going until

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something happens.

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You know.

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If it's not fun and it sucks, then I'll stop.

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But it's still fun, so why would I stop?

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Yeah, you A couple episodes ago, I had Jonathan Gregg

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on who lives in Queens and he's been an actor

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since he was a little kid, you know, but he

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did like, you know, a lot of stage stuff, and then.

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He's in.

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He's in an episode of Jessica Jones and he's I

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talked to him about an episode of I don't know

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if you ever watched High Maintenance on on on HBO

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just just a great show, Like it was just an

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anthology show where the only one recurring character was a

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weed dealer and it would just show his day going

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from person to person, and you know, would show those

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people when he wasn't there too, you know, just to

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establish character or whatever. So, and he's a little older

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than you. He's forty three and just in the last

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couple of years, it's like, Okay, I'd like to keep acting,

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but it's probably not going to be the way that

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I make money, and I'm just going to get a job.

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Yeah. But he also did stand up too, so probably

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funny he does.

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He's a little bit of a of a Instagram influencer.

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Talking about various things. You know.

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Yeah, it's I don't know, man, you just keep trying shit.

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Like I hear stories like that and I'm like, oh fuck,

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like that sucks. But like at the same time, like that,

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there's where I work in my you know, my day job.

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A guy who's like one of our higher ups. He

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pursued he was a trainer in West Hollywood and he's

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like now he's like a regional manager of the whole Northeast.

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But he has a sad card I mean, he was

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tried acting for ten years. Yeah, so and you know,

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now he's doing his job, he's got the family, lives

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along island, the whole deal, and you're like, it's not

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the worst. It's not the worst thing. But like, yeah,

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I think I think it's I don't know. I go

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back and forth, and like all I keep keep telling

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myself is like, just keep trying it and it's fun

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and you're having fun, and like, see what happens. You

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know what I mean again, if it sucked and I

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was not having fun, because there was there was a

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time two years ago I barely wanted to do stand

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up for like probably two years. I was just like

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I did barely want to do it. I did it

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when I could do it. I didn't write one new joke. Yeah,

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I did not care. Like I was out to fucking lunch.

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I was like I don't want to do this, fuck

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this whatever. And it took me a while to come

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back around. And now I'm like, oh, this is fun.

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Oh I could just tellt like oh, I also taking

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away the pressure of it too. Yeah, And then we

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have other things in our lives, like we're like me

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and all the comics like we're all getting older. And

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like you remember my buddy BO was on Losers with

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a Dream. Yeah, Bo's getting married in November, Like shit, really,

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yeah dude, and like she's fucking great and like he's

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he has a great job and whatever, and like yeah

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we still do comedy. Yeah we still he pulled post

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stuff on the internet.

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Why not try?

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But like life's moving on, man. You know, for for

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a while I also used to think, and I don't

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think this, I probably know this, but for all of us, Bo,

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you know, it's coming out. He was, you know, he's

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been sober a long time now, but he was in

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recovery and still is. And for me, I was coming

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out of like a relationship. And for a while I

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was always like, I think we're just using this as

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like stand up and whatever is like ways to get attention, yeah,

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like ways to feel And I used to when I

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was really going through it in therapy, I used to

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sit there and think, in my head, I think we're

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all killing time until like the right girl comes along,

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or until like like I'm like, are we really in

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this or are we in this? Because it gives us

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like a little immediate attention eat over you meet a

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girl at a show. You get attention from people whatever, right, like,

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and every comic's a little fucked up, so it's like

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it's all good. It's not bad.

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It wouldn't be funny if they weren't.

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Yeah, no, that's what all the rich kids that come

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from money and they're just writing in their notebook. Come on,

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you gotta have real mental problems. But yeah, yeah, I

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always thought about that. So I don't know. Man, I'm

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just gonna keep trying shit, see what happens. That's all

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I can do.

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Yeah, Boa lost a bunch of weight several years ago.

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He's yeah, I gained it, so like he just gave

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it to you, he gave it to me. He's down

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and he's down. I don't know. Any Ways, he was

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probably three to zero five and now he's probably two thirty. Yeah,

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and he's like six y three, so yeah, you know,

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he's a tall dude. He looks good. I'm only five

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to eleven, but I went from like two ten to

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like I'm at two fifty year but yeah, it was

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it was tough, but my back was fucked up. So

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I just, you know, depression eight and didn't do anything.

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So I yeah, I'm a stress eater myself.

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So that's you know, I have been I've talked about

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it a little bit on here, but not a ton.

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not work out in it, that's weird. And I've said

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this before and I think.

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It's it's true. It's just that it's it's hard. It's

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a difficult thing to to to.

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it's that the situation is often hard. Yeah, And you know,

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we started the thing at a at a work time

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and so yeah, and I'm sometimes you just like would

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kind of resent being there, and so it's hard to

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work out in a place that you kind of kind

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of resent.

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Dude, I know, did people say that, like you own

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a gym. I work at a gym and they're like, well,

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you're just in a gym. You just work out all day,

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and it's like no, no, like you're running it and

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you have your business stuff you have to do. I'm now,

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like I was a trainer. I still am technically, but

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now I manage the PT department, So like I have

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twenty trainers to manage. I have a co manager. Is

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this right? Is this right? Is this right? It's like, no,

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you just work out all fucking like, especially at a

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company like Equinox, It's like you have shit to do,

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and like there's things that need to happen in the

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course of the day. You can't just fucking.

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You're you're inside of a corporate culture and you you've

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got to.

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Yeah, you got numbers to hit, You got things, which

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is fines get money for it, which is great.

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But you Yeah, the thing about being like, you know,

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a very small, independent gym with just phenomenally too high

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least number every week.

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Or every month, Like that's like you signed this.

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Thing during you know, early COVID when it was all

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going to be over in two.

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Weeks, right you know did I'll never forget that two

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weeks and two weeks and two weeks, two weeks.

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I was like two week vacation because those weird stupid

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virus that doesn't even matter. Yeah, three months later we

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were like, hey, you guys gonna open or that's up.

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Speaking of which, I just got a note that Yeah,

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one of my guys, that's COVID. So you're committing tomorrow

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or probably most of this week, so that'll be meat.

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Tell them it's five years later. Tell them.

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Yeah. Well, I mean, here's the thing. Like I had

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not had COVID at all. My wife had not either.

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Wow until and this is retrospect, we couldn't even tell

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at the time.

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In June, and like she was down.

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For a couple of days with just a killer headache

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and didn't want to get out of bed and didn't

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want to move and didn't want to have our eyes

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open and whatever. And I just had like a like

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serial running nose and cereal coughing and you know, the

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sore throat.

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So nothing ever lasted more than a day or so.

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I just felt tired, just felt fatigued or whatever. And

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then the fatigue thing hung on for a long time.

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And then you know, we went on a trip. We

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were gone for like three weeks or whatever, and I

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was just, man, I was just tired.

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But I thought, oh, I'm just jet lagged and I'm

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not sleeping well and whatever.

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Whatever.

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Came back and started working on a consulting project, and

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I was like, I just couldn't wrap my mind around it.

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I just could not get it, you know. And it's

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been like just a week ago, a week ago today,

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I sat down and like, Okay, now I know how

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to solve this, and I.

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Just like did it. I thought I wasn't capable. I

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just had too much brain fog before. This is what happened.

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So so COVID sucks even five plus years later, you know,

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I mean, not on the virgin of dying most of

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the most of most people.

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But it's just like I had it last ship, maybe

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a year ago. At this time, it was worse than

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when I had it a few times. First time wasn't terrible.

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Second time wasn't really anything. This time was I was like,

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holy shit, this is it. I was really fucked up

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also too, Like I remember talking about brain FuG. I

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remember I have a client at Equinox. I won't say

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his name, but he's an actor. He has no idea

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I do stand up acting or anything. I would never

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because he's well known and he's I would never be

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that guy, but I will. Yes. But I remember at

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home with COVID and I saw my YouTube algorithm. He

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was on it, and like I saw him and it

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was like a panel he did or something, and I'm

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looking at him. I'm like, dude, he looks fucking great,

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Like his shoulders look big and his fucking arms look good.

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Damn dude. And I click on it and I'm like, oh,

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it's from two weeks ago. I've been training for the

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last two months.

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This is me.

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I did that. I mean, he has a good genetics,

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he's hot as fuck. But like still, I was like,

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I was like looking at him, like, damn, dude, I

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wonder what he's been. I was so out of it.

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I told him that story. He was like Jesus. I

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was like, yeah, dude, I was not doing well.

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Yeah, you know, my my wife is in the same boat.

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And she's she's doing some consulting right now too, she's

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you know, retired or whatever.

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And and it's like, why has it been so hard

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this time? Yes, it's because you can't think straight. You

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got a brain fog, and it's got it's scotten signific better.

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And just in the last you know, like in the

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last couple of weeks or whatever, but particularly a week ago,

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I was like, oh, now I know how to do this,

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Like I couldn't. It was so weird because like I

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would be thinking about like trying to get to sort

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of the next level, to take a you know, like

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a broad view of the thing so that I could

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put it together though I wanted to, and I just

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couldn't get there, Like just kept coming up on a

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wall of fatigue.

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I just can't think straight.

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I still can't some days. But that's just you know,

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everyone that raised me is fucking stupid, so that's all

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they're fault. No, I'm just kidding. My dad's kind of smart.

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He's pretty smart, i'd say, but and funny. He's very funny.

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He says, he's my father has an ability I guess

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like me as well. I like him. I'm like him.

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He could be very like deep and have a con

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like this is the best example was he could be deep.

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And I don't know if I ever I know it

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was on your podcast before. I don't think i've told

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this story, but years ago I was talking to my dad.

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It was me, Lisa and Bow. We had the podcast

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and we were going to and Lisa kind of like

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interviewed my dad, not on the podcast, just at We

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want to go where he worked at Duchess, which, for

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those that don't know, it's a fast food place here

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in Connecticut. I had seventy five years old. You know,

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he's an Italian guy from New York, like Saturday night fever,

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like that was him, Like that was he was in

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a band. He dressed like that. Him and all his

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fucking friends, Tommy the Rose of Ronnie Vitti, my godfather,

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they all went out. He was like, that's like real shit, right.

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So Lisa asked my dad. She goes, what do you

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think is wrong with the world today? And my dad goes, honestly,

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he goes, I think people aren't spiritual enough. And he goes,

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I don't mean religion, he I just mean that I

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think people don't believe, don't have belief in something like

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themselves or a higher power. And he's like, I'm not

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talking about Jesus or God, like you need something like

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people need belief and they need to be a little

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bit more spirit bowl and grounded. And I was like wow.

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I was like that was like a excuse me? What

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did you do with my father?

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I was like right? And then the second question she goes, Lisa,

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of course she goes, so like boy, she goes, my

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dad's name is Bob. She goes, Bob, you think you

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can still get it done in the bedroom and he goes, listen,

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he goes, I put my bib on and I get

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to work right, And I was like, the fuck he

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love like he's like ever since he yelled at me

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wanting to drive through when I was nineteen, because he

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assumed I didn't like to go down on women, Like

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he's insane. Like he's like, you don't like that. And

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I was like it's six am, Like what are you

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talking about now? And I was like, you know, I'm

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just gone from college. I'm like half asleep. It's up

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to one pm every day, and he was like, you

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don't fucking like that. I was like, shut up, dude,

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fucking pussy and I was like okay, bye. I'd like

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we were every We were like sharing the car that

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day and I had to drop them at work.

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You couldn't work for him to get to the car.

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I was like, Oh, shut the fuck up. But like

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that's yeah, my dad's the perfect everyone that meets the

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same thing. Your dad's the sweetest, nicest man I ever

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met in the world. He's also hilarious and disgusting. I

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was like, right, he warms you up with that, and

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then he comes in with the fucking.

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Well, that must have prepared you for dealing with Lisa.

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Dude, Lisa's so goddamn funny.

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Yeah, obviously this since you made a career of it

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and then retired from it.

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You know.

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Yeah, she's she's very good, but like, yeah, working with

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her has been the best. Dude, She's so goddamn funny.

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At first, when I first met her, I was like,

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I've never met a person who is like a machine gun,

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Like I never witnessed that. And like I just I think,

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like just Bo, me and Bow and our buddy Ginsburg

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who was a comic as well. We all meet the

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diner every week, every like Tuesday night. We all meet

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the diner. Used to be writing meetings. Now we just

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fuck around and just you know, but like you just

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get like it's like training, like you just get skills.

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Like in the beginning, I could not believe how fast

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she was and I was like, how do you even

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have thoughts that quick? And like jokes about everything. I

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was like, damn, she's out of this world. And but

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now it's just like we're all kind of similar. I mean,

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we don't want to say we're not like her, because

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she'll fucking rip you apart. But it's it's been fun. Man. Definitely,

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She's similar to my dad in a lot of ways.

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Yeah, I hadn't really thought about that before before you're

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talking about your dad this time. I mean I've heard

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you talk about your dad plenty, but I really not

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made that.

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And I listened listened to one of your episodes this morning.

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I think the thing about this point in the the

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podcast landscape is that most people don't listen to their

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friends podcasts.

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Dude, I don't even listen to my own. Lisa gets

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mad at me.

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Well, I understand that.

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You get that, right, I don't. I don't again, I

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don't watch I don't watch my stand up. First of all,

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I barely record myself, which is like a self sabotage

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thing I'm working on, like just there's no reason not to,

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like it's so dumb, but I have this mental block

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where I'm like, no, I just want to go and

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have fun, and if I set up the camera then

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it becomes like a real thing. Stupid. But like, yeah,

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Lisa gets mad of me, so you can listen. I

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was like, I don't want to hear myself.

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Yeah, Well, I mean, yeah, Mike Mike is I don't know,

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people get it or not.

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Mike is away through the end of the year, and

479
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so this is why I'm doing shows this way and

480
00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:39.359
going back to stand up and whatever. This is kind

481
00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:41.680
of like my creative outlet. That's that I don't really

482
00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:44.119
want to give up. It doesn't it's not as remunerative

483
00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:46.519
as it was back in the old days, back when

484
00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:52.599
the fucking power cast made six figures and stuff. Nothing

485
00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:59.200
I did, but it did. But uh, I know, I

486
00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:02.200
don't want to actually going to comment on them. I

487
00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:04.000
get sidetracked by two thoughts at one time.

488
00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:08.599
That's I can't handle that anymore. I'm not too old that,

489
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:09.319
you know what.

490
00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:12.839
I started recording with with Mike in twenty thirteen, right,

491
00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:17.839
so that's been you know, twelve years this month, not

492
00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:20.839
that I've recorded with him this year, but that's twelve years.

493
00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:25.400
And we missed, you know, from January to February, February

494
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:31.200
to December September or something like that of twenty eighteen.

495
00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:34.759
But he'd never listened to any show we ever did.

496
00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:39.319
Never. Yeah, about one time. I just don't want to

497
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:43.920
listen to myself. Yeah, But and if I could have

498
00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:44.559
had a.

499
00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:46.680
Decent argument to say, you know, like you would get

500
00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:47.960
better if you listen to yourself.

501
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:49.359
I don't think it's true.

502
00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:52.839
Like he was, you know, just like spontaneous and he

503
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:56.079
would take us to directions and whatever, and I couldn't

504
00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:59.960
complain so like, but whereas I was having to listen

505
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.720
to it at least twice more after it was recorded.

506
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.039
Yeah, now I don't.

507
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.000
I do a little bit like, uh, you know, I

508
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:15.240
put the ad breaks in and I drop in the

509
00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.720
the opening closed music and stuff on the audio version,

510
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:21.279
and I do something similar with the video version.

511
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:23.279
And that's that's kind of it. You know.51200:26:23.920 --> 00:26:26.799



I don't have to sit through every every moment of it,51300:26:26.839 --> 00:26:27.400



but I used to.51400:26:27.839 --> 00:26:29.359



And there are plenty of people who do.51500:26:29.279 --> 00:26:33.000



Podcast editing that do that now they just like, you know,51600:26:33.160 --> 00:26:36.519



we'll we'll sit there and try to take out every every.51700:26:37.759 --> 00:26:40.079



Quiet moment and every year.51800:26:40.440 --> 00:26:42.440



You gotta you kind of let it just go, man.51900:26:42.599 --> 00:26:42.680



Like.52000:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.680



That's another thing too, is like another reason why I52100:26:45.680 --> 00:26:47.559



probably don't listen to my sets or listen to myself52200:26:47.599 --> 00:26:49.279



on podcasts, because it's like I just want to have52300:26:49.359 --> 00:26:52.319



like fun, like like right now we're talking, it's a52400:26:52.440 --> 00:26:54.000



I don't know if I could say it's a Sunday52500:26:54.039 --> 00:26:55.720



and just got out of work, Like I'm just like,52600:26:56.680 --> 00:26:58.680



let's go. I'm not sitting here with notes Like it's52700:26:58.720 --> 00:27:01.599



just it doesn't it should not fun. Like if I'm52800:27:01.640 --> 00:27:04.079



having fun, my natural self will come out. Your natural52900:27:04.119 --> 00:27:07.319



self will come out connects with someone probably way better.53000:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.279



That's what even Like, dude, it's even like what I'm53100:27:10.319 --> 00:27:12.559



learning an acting class. Like people think acting classes like53200:27:12.599 --> 00:27:14.680



you got to really act like they're like, no, just53300:27:14.759 --> 00:27:18.319



like be yourself and talk as if you were in53400:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.200



this situation like you're talking to significant other and you're upset.53500:27:22.240 --> 00:27:24.119



What would that's what would that be like? And it's53600:27:24.160 --> 00:27:27.079



like that's it. It's not like you mother, It's like53700:27:27.720 --> 00:27:31.279



just talk like just relax. So yeah, and I don't53800:27:31.279 --> 00:27:34.160



know if we really learn. I don't know if we53900:27:34.240 --> 00:27:38.160



learn listening, you just keep doing them and and you know,54000:27:38.279 --> 00:27:40.160



hopefully the skill increases over time.54100:27:45.640 --> 00:27:45.839



Yeah.54200:27:45.920 --> 00:27:48.680



Well, some of the best known actors that we have54300:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.680



right now are people who are essentially playing versions of themselves.54400:27:55.079 --> 00:27:58.160



You know, absolutely, there's a couple, you know, there's a54500:27:58.200 --> 00:28:01.279



couple guys for sure that our method and get deep54600:28:01.319 --> 00:28:03.960



in a lot of them, but like a lot of54700:28:04.000 --> 00:28:09.759



them are just like doing just being themselves. Man, that's it.54800:28:09.920 --> 00:28:13.319



Like a couple guys definitely for sure can crush characters54900:28:13.359 --> 00:28:16.039



like things like that. Like I always look at obviously55000:28:16.039 --> 00:28:20.799



I'm obsessed with Sopranos, but like I just am, but55100:28:20.920 --> 00:28:23.440



like GANDALFEENI and things like that, because like he really55200:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.039



wasn't that guy, right, he was like the night he55300:28:26.039 --> 00:28:30.359



had birkenstocks, he like did theater. He was an Italian55400:28:30.400 --> 00:28:35.519



guy from New Jersey, but like he wasn't a sociopath55500:28:35.680 --> 00:28:38.440



fucking asshole. Like he had to you know, kind of55600:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.799



get there, which maybe was tough for him.55700:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.400



So he I mean he was probably in some ways55800:28:44.440 --> 00:28:45.839



playing versions of people that he.55900:28:47.400 --> 00:28:47.960



That he knew.56000:28:48.640 --> 00:28:52.519



Right, That's that's the thing too. Yeah, Like it's if56100:28:52.559 --> 00:28:56.400



you are from the Northeast, even if you're not Italian,56200:28:56.480 --> 00:28:59.839



like you roughly know guys who dress.56300:28:59.680 --> 00:28:59.960



Like that.56400:29:01.440 --> 00:29:05.160



Like that. I mean literally, like I watched Sopranos or56500:29:05.160 --> 00:29:08.960



like good Fellas or anything, and like the living rooms56600:29:08.960 --> 00:29:11.839



are like the same, Like it's like the same furniture56700:29:11.880 --> 00:29:13.359



I grew up with. And it's like guys, it's like56800:29:13.400 --> 00:29:15.880



it's like not a you know, everyone always makes fun56900:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.079



of me, like people know soprans is the best show57000:29:18.119 --> 00:29:20.880



of all time. But you know, people when I tell them, like, well,57100:29:20.880 --> 00:29:23.160



because you're Italian, I go, no, no, I go, I go.57200:29:23.200 --> 00:29:26.759



There's a nostalgia factor, do not get me wrong. My57300:29:26.920 --> 00:29:31.240



dad dressed like Tony like every the way he's built57400:29:31.480 --> 00:29:34.119



like he does. He's like no ass but big shoulders57500:29:34.880 --> 00:29:37.160



and like just kind of a little balding but has57600:29:37.240 --> 00:29:40.440



hair kind of but like you know whatever, and you're like,57700:29:40.519 --> 00:29:42.640



it's nostalgic, but like, at the end of the day,57800:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.759



it's about a mob boss who has panic attacks and57900:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.640



like it's trying to like go to therapy and like58000:29:47.680 --> 00:29:50.920



there's like more to it, but yeah, for sure, it's58100:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.359



every guy from the Northeast can imitate a guy like that.58200:29:55.400 --> 00:29:59.559



They know just I remember, you know, our our buddy,58300:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.640



our mutual friend here Steve, who I had my fitness58400:30:02.680 --> 00:30:06.559



podcast with years ago, Strength Squad still out there. I58500:30:06.599 --> 00:30:09.839



actually listened to an old episode of that, oh yeah,58600:30:09.880 --> 00:30:11.640



and I liked it. I was like, damn, I was58700:30:11.640 --> 00:30:12.519



having fun back then.58800:30:12.720 --> 00:30:13.799



You guys did a good job.58900:30:14.640 --> 00:30:18.160



Yeah, fucking fun. I literally like, so my job at59000:30:18.160 --> 00:30:21.519



Equinox is to like teach I have a bunch of management,59100:30:21.599 --> 00:30:24.440



but like teaching new trainers stuff. I played like an59200:30:24.440 --> 00:30:26.880



old video Steve and I made for them, and I59300:30:26.920 --> 00:30:30.240



was like, about core training, this is really I showed59400:30:30.240 --> 00:30:31.759



like a couple of the veteran trainers are like, yeah,59500:30:31.759 --> 00:30:33.960



this is great, and I was like, yeah, we actually59600:30:34.000 --> 00:30:36.640



knew what we were doing, kind of like I.59700:30:36.559 --> 00:30:38.039



Text God, we knew how to make content.59800:30:38.240 --> 00:30:38.440



Yeah.59900:30:38.480 --> 00:30:39.720



I was like, we're kind of killing it. But what60000:30:39.759 --> 00:30:42.200



I was gonna say was that Steve, you know, he60100:30:42.240 --> 00:30:44.200



also grew up in the Northeast. He grew up in Westchester,60200:30:44.240 --> 00:30:47.039



as I did, like Harrison, his dad's Italian Irish, the whole,60300:30:47.079 --> 00:30:49.519



you know, the whole thing. He went and lived out60400:30:49.519 --> 00:30:51.720



in the Voto with kids who have never seen people60500:30:51.799 --> 00:30:55.160



like that, and they watched this movie. I think it60600:30:55.200 --> 00:30:57.839



was like, don John, that's that movie. Do you remember60700:30:57.839 --> 00:30:58.359



that movie?60800:30:58.480 --> 00:30:59.960



I've never seen it, but I know which.60900:31:00.400 --> 00:31:04.480



Oh it's ridiculous. And the guys who was living with61000:31:04.519 --> 00:31:06.440



his roommates at the time in Nevada were like, are61100:31:06.480 --> 00:31:10.799



these like there's people like this back home? And He's like, oh, yeah,61200:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.160



like this is this is like a whole group of people.61300:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.319



They couldn't believe it. They're like no, and it's like no, no, no,61400:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.079



this is real. Yeah, this is a real type of person.61500:31:22.160 --> 00:31:24.200



Now he's an orient Yeah.61600:31:23.759 --> 00:31:27.400



He's yeah, he's in Portland. He's been there. What year61700:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.960



is this six years? He's been there twenty nineteen.61800:31:31.960 --> 00:31:33.119



I haven't seen him in a minute.61900:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.680



I know he got dude. Just hit him up, bro,62000:31:36.839 --> 00:31:39.359



he's the well, you know, he's he's okay with texting.62100:31:39.359 --> 00:31:43.200



He's a little slow, but I me and his brother's62200:31:43.200 --> 00:31:45.640



always like can you fucking get back to us? Quicker, dude.62300:31:46.160 --> 00:31:48.200



But he's having a great time. He's going to music62400:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.319



festivals and shit, he's djaying. Yeah, he has a I62500:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.960



mean he has like a legitigraphic design job as well.62600:31:55.119 --> 00:31:57.880



But he's doing great man. Yeah, hit him up. We62700:31:57.920 --> 00:31:59.599



show all three of us. Should all.62800:32:01.640 --> 00:32:03.119



Come and see you. Guys should come and see me.62900:32:03.440 --> 00:32:10.759



We should absolutely, you're you're in sec okay, right, I'm down, Bro,63000:32:11.279 --> 00:32:12.640



I'm down. We'll make it happen.63100:32:13.359 --> 00:32:15.319



Yeah. I don't make it to the Arnold to see you,63200:32:15.319 --> 00:32:16.359



then you should come and see me.63300:32:17.039 --> 00:32:21.720



Yeah, the Arnold's you know, I like I want you know,63400:32:21.799 --> 00:32:26.160



I'm ambivalent about expos after having so many years working63500:32:26.200 --> 00:32:29.279



at them, I'm ambivalent about them, but like at the63600:32:29.319 --> 00:32:32.079



same time, you have like a different.63700:32:32.400 --> 00:32:34.319



Vibe with it, Like you got to like I went63800:32:34.359 --> 00:32:36.119



twice at the time of my life you had to63900:32:36.160 --> 00:32:37.400



work at those fucking things.64000:32:37.599 --> 00:32:37.799



Yeah.64100:32:38.279 --> 00:32:41.559



Yeah, that's a whole other thing, dude. I went and64200:32:41.559 --> 00:32:43.200



had fun and like walked around.64300:32:44.000 --> 00:32:44.359



Yeah.64400:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.440



And I mean, like, at this stage of the game,64500:32:47.720 --> 00:32:49.880



if I'm going to walk around any crowd of people,64600:32:50.759 --> 00:32:53.000



where where someone's going to recognize me, It's going to64700:32:53.039 --> 00:32:57.200



be in an expo. And it depends on how badly64800:32:57.279 --> 00:32:59.200



my my egle needs to be strugg by that.64900:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.000



I don't know, right right, I'm not sure.65000:33:02.039 --> 00:33:04.640



I'm thinking I'm sort of thinking about going to the65100:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.319



Olympia for just like a day because it's a you know,65200:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.680



it's an hour flight basically to Vegas.65300:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.039



Oh right, I was gonna say, doesn't it It moves65400:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.559



around usually, right, it's like a Florida, Vegas whatever.65500:33:15.640 --> 00:33:18.160



Yeah, they moved into Florida a little bit during COVID,65600:33:18.160 --> 00:33:21.559



but it's back in Vegas now, all right. The problem65700:33:21.599 --> 00:33:23.359



is that like the meat that they have is not65800:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.359



it's a like USPA or something like that. None of65900:33:26.359 --> 00:33:30.319



our people compete there. Yeah, I think we might have66000:33:30.359 --> 00:33:32.759



people who will compete at the Arnold. And that's the66100:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.079



last time I went was a couple of years ago,66200:33:35.160 --> 00:33:39.319



twenty twenty three, two twenty three, something like that. We66300:33:39.400 --> 00:33:42.400



had well, one of our one of our trainers, like66400:33:42.839 --> 00:33:47.279



one she won the whole freaking pro thing.66500:33:48.480 --> 00:33:51.880



Jesus. Yeah, dude, speaking of like the Olympia, I don't66600:33:51.880 --> 00:33:55.119



even know it's competing anymore, Like I have no Like66700:33:55.160 --> 00:33:58.640



in my head, it's like it's still Phil Heath versus66800:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.680



Jacob It's like that's still happening, right, Like.66900:34:02.599 --> 00:34:10.159



No, no, there they're senior bodybuilders now, yeah, no, I yeah,67000:34:10.199 --> 00:34:12.280



we We've got some folks at the gym who are67100:34:12.800 --> 00:34:16.320



are legitimately into the current bodybuilding scene. So I hear67200:34:16.440 --> 00:34:19.239



stuff from them. But am I super paying attention to it?67300:34:19.440 --> 00:34:20.679



No, not really.67400:34:22.000 --> 00:34:27.199



We've we've got we've got like three TVs in the gym.67500:34:27.199 --> 00:34:28.639



We've got one of the cardio area, and there are67600:34:28.639 --> 00:34:30.519



a couple on the other side that we installed largely67700:34:30.519 --> 00:34:33.159



because we have meats and it was easy to project67800:34:33.239 --> 00:34:37.079



the uh the roster up there so people could know67900:34:37.119 --> 00:34:41.239



when they were lifting and stuff, and so we you know,68000:34:41.639 --> 00:34:45.719



we put on YouTube or YouTube TV or whatever. And68100:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.840



our trainer, who like he only works one death shift68200:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.880



is like it's like eight to noon on Mondays and68300:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.480



the rest of it is just it's just one on ones.68400:34:56.079 --> 00:34:58.800



But every time that I come in there is somebody68500:34:58.800 --> 00:34:59.440



building video.68600:35:02.320 --> 00:35:04.480



Dude, I know that's the quickest way to like people68700:35:04.519 --> 00:35:09.480



think you're gay immediately. You're just like, bro, when I68800:35:09.519 --> 00:35:11.639



look back, when I was like eighteen, I used to68900:35:11.639 --> 00:35:14.559



do The only thing I used to buy at like69000:35:14.599 --> 00:35:17.480



a CBS was a flex magazine and condoms at the69100:35:17.519 --> 00:35:23.440



same time. And everyone I'd like, I'm not I just69200:35:23.559 --> 00:35:25.719



I like it. I just like the lifting weights. I69300:35:25.760 --> 00:35:29.159



just want to read and they're like, okay.69400:35:29.639 --> 00:35:30.760



At all to do that?69500:35:31.239 --> 00:35:34.280



No, I mean I still I mean I condoms, who69600:35:34.320 --> 00:35:38.400



needs those anymore? But definitely not going to read a69700:35:38.400 --> 00:35:39.239



flex magazine.69800:35:39.320 --> 00:35:45.519



Tell you what, Yeah, magazines have kind of it's over. Yeah, sadly.69900:35:46.079 --> 00:35:48.079



But I used to watch this shit all the time. Bro.70000:35:48.199 --> 00:35:52.719



Like they used to make like those like bodybuilding motivation70100:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.880



videos and it'd be like, yeah, J Cutler just like70200:35:56.000 --> 00:36:00.519



lifting to like fucking I don't know Metallica, and you're like, yeah,70300:36:01.559 --> 00:36:02.320



so stupid.70400:36:02.639 --> 00:36:07.480



Watch before YouTube started cracking down on all the copyright70500:36:07.519 --> 00:36:08.280



stuff for music.70600:36:08.679 --> 00:36:11.239



Oh yeah, this was when I was eighteen. The year70700:36:11.440 --> 00:36:15.480



was two thousand and six, so like they didn't give70800:36:15.519 --> 00:36:19.840



a fuck about anything too. Nothing mattered at that point.70900:36:21.079 --> 00:36:25.800



So going to the day job, Like what is that71000:36:26.960 --> 00:36:31.239



like in managing that many people?71100:36:35.599 --> 00:36:39.320



I mean, and you know this, but like everyone knows71200:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.000



this that has a job or whatever. Like, when you71300:36:41.000 --> 00:36:42.639



have a good team, you got a good group of people,71400:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.239



it's fine. Yeah, when do you have people who suck,71500:36:45.559 --> 00:36:51.320



it's really fucking hard. It's the worst. We were at71600:36:51.320 --> 00:36:52.880



a point where we had a lot of people who sucked,71700:36:54.079 --> 00:36:56.519



and then we got rid of them. That helps, or71800:36:56.559 --> 00:36:58.840



they got rid of themselves or found other careers. And71900:36:58.840 --> 00:37:01.119



like so many people I'm friends, I've been to their weddings,72000:37:01.199 --> 00:37:03.480



Like but they just like they this wasn't their career72100:37:03.480 --> 00:37:05.599



for them. They usually usually the next step we a72200:37:05.639 --> 00:37:09.000



lot of people leave and go be cops, which is like, yeah,72300:37:09.119 --> 00:37:13.280



it's kind of how it goes. It's all right. But72400:37:13.440 --> 00:37:17.280



now we have a like a fantastic team of just72500:37:17.360 --> 00:37:22.480



like adults who like want to work and like have72600:37:23.320 --> 00:37:26.840



significant others or children or like goals of things they72700:37:26.840 --> 00:37:28.719



want to do. Like it's just it's a different thing72800:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.480



versus hiring a twenty three year old kid out of72900:37:30.480 --> 00:37:32.480



college who's like, I just like lifely lifting weights, d73000:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.840



it's my passion and it's like, yeah, no, it was73100:37:35.880 --> 00:37:38.039



mine too. But like, training people is like a whole73200:37:38.159 --> 00:37:42.239



especially an equinox like these are usually it's like middle73300:37:42.280 --> 00:37:47.239



aged fucking people, old rich whites usually right, it's old73400:37:47.280 --> 00:37:50.599



rich white fuckers who don't have asses and like they've73500:37:50.679 --> 00:37:54.639



never done a hinge in their life, and it's all good.73600:37:55.119 --> 00:37:58.239



Like they're awesome people. And guess what, they work really73700:37:58.440 --> 00:38:00.960



fucking hard because of how access will they become in73800:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.719



other realms. They they're like, oh I made a bunch73900:38:03.719 --> 00:38:05.480



of money. Now I got to take care of myself.74000:38:05.599 --> 00:38:09.039



The last thirty years I spent building a goddamn business. Yeah,74100:38:09.239 --> 00:38:11.599



and I got four houses and I got everything I need.74200:38:11.679 --> 00:38:13.960



And it's like but now I you know, I gotta74300:38:13.960 --> 00:38:19.400



get better. So managing people it's it's a I mean, dude,74400:38:19.440 --> 00:38:21.280



it's a fun job. I gets. I always say, like,74500:38:21.760 --> 00:38:23.880



especially had an equinox, Like a lot of people knock74600:38:23.920 --> 00:38:26.760



it like it is what it is, right, it's a74700:38:26.760 --> 00:38:30.079



big corporation's big company. But like I get to go74800:38:30.119 --> 00:38:33.159



to work in shorts and sweatpants and a hoodie and74900:38:33.159 --> 00:38:36.920



I have a four to one K and bonuses and75000:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.159



benefits and like, yeah, there's things you gotta do. You75100:38:40.159 --> 00:38:42.719



gotta play corporate, the corporate game and do things. But75200:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.840



like it's just part of like you're lying to yourself.75300:38:45.880 --> 00:38:48.519



If like and people in any trainer that has worked75400:38:48.519 --> 00:38:51.559



in other places and then come here late later in75500:38:51.599 --> 00:38:53.760



their career as I did, they're like, yeah, this is75600:38:53.800 --> 00:38:56.159



the best, and you're like, yeah, no, it is. Like75700:38:56.239 --> 00:38:57.679



the only other place you're gonna make more money is75800:38:57.679 --> 00:38:58.800



if you go out on your own, and that's a75900:38:58.800 --> 00:39:02.519



whole other beasts of itself, Like you know what that's like.76000:39:02.639 --> 00:39:06.519



But managing people is great. Don't get me wrong. I'm76100:39:08.000 --> 00:39:12.840



I'm for me. I'm coming around to like, like I76200:39:12.880 --> 00:39:14.199



was very big, I'm like, well, if you don't do76300:39:14.280 --> 00:39:17.280



your job, then fuck you. That's fine. I just want76400:39:17.320 --> 00:39:20.039



to help you. Or like all right, they're on their own,76500:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.440



but like it's like you have to look past that76600:39:23.559 --> 00:39:25.000



and be like, no, I need to try to help76700:39:25.039 --> 00:39:27.840



this person. Like I had people help me. I've had76800:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.800



plenty of mentors. I've had plenty of you know again,76900:39:30.920 --> 00:39:33.159



back to that fitness podcast. Steve and I started it77000:39:33.199 --> 00:39:34.679



to like we were into it and we wanted to77100:39:34.719 --> 00:39:36.360



talk to some of the best in the industry to77200:39:36.360 --> 00:39:41.400



help like motivate us. Like I'm reframing it and looking77300:39:41.440 --> 00:39:46.440



at it that way now. So but it's been fun.77400:39:46.480 --> 00:39:48.920



We've had work to get We've had to work to77500:39:48.920 --> 00:39:51.920



get the team. One of the things that we Equinox77600:39:51.960 --> 00:39:54.559



give out like awards every year, and they give out77700:39:54.559 --> 00:39:57.559



some joke awards, and one of the joke awards was77800:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.440



the Fort Knox Award, and that award is to the77900:40:01.079 --> 00:40:03.880



club with the lowest hiring percentage in the company, which78000:40:03.960 --> 00:40:10.719



was us, which I was like yeah, and our bosses78100:40:10.760 --> 00:40:13.000



were like, you know, we understand why you like, it's funny,78200:40:13.239 --> 00:40:17.079



like like yeah, no, we said yes to everyone years78300:40:17.119 --> 00:40:19.239



ago because we needed people and it was post COVID78400:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.239



and like we need money and trainers and we need78500:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.320



to get clients back, and we just hired anyone and everyone,78600:40:25.320 --> 00:40:28.000



and it bit us in the ass so hard. Yes,78700:40:28.320 --> 00:40:31.920



Like now it was like, all right, we got to78800:40:31.960 --> 00:40:35.719



focus on the quality of the person. So now it's easy.78900:40:36.159 --> 00:40:38.199



It's great, but yeah, there's times where it's tough, where79000:40:38.239 --> 00:40:43.199



like again my cynical. Like you said, I'm very warm,79100:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.840



but I'm most like fuck you all right enough, I79200:40:46.880 --> 00:40:49.559



have a limit, so but I'm working on that.79300:40:49.920 --> 00:40:53.679



So I think that the hardest part for us is79400:40:53.719 --> 00:40:57.679



just developing the clientele. It's just, you know, a small79500:40:57.719 --> 00:41:00.920



boutique not to climate can troll to gym.79600:41:01.719 --> 00:41:03.559



It's a very specific.79700:41:04.239 --> 00:41:06.719



Client base that you're looking for, and it's it's hard79800:41:06.760 --> 00:41:11.880



to it's harder to get a a critical mass then79900:41:11.920 --> 00:41:13.760



I was hoping it would be. But like we started80000:41:13.760 --> 00:41:16.360



out not anticipating doing having trainers at all, Like we80100:41:16.360 --> 00:41:19.000



were just going to be like open gym. And and80200:41:19.719 --> 00:41:21.760



you know, again it's a boutique gym.80300:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.320



It's a marble gym. Not everybody is looking for that.80400:41:26.000 --> 00:41:30.880



And we're not cheap, which which means that we don't80500:41:30.880 --> 00:41:31.239



have a lot.80600:41:31.199 --> 00:41:34.079



Of the problems that other gyms have, right, Like, we80700:41:34.119 --> 00:41:36.320



don't have a big problem with people leaving a mess.80800:41:36.400 --> 00:41:38.039



We don't have a big problem with people not putting80900:41:38.039 --> 00:41:41.159



weights away. It happens a little bit, but you know,81000:41:41.599 --> 00:41:44.159



not not enormous that we don't have. We don't have81100:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.280



problems with people getting eating into hassle with each other,81200:41:47.639 --> 00:41:51.559



we don't you know, we we have a probably lower81300:41:51.599 --> 00:41:56.800



than average problem with people people's people's payments not processing81400:41:56.840 --> 00:41:57.519



and stuff.81500:41:57.199 --> 00:42:02.119



Like that, you know what I mean. Yeah, but it's81600:42:02.119 --> 00:42:05.039



a little self limiting for sure.81700:42:05.760 --> 00:42:11.360



Dude. Every every gym has their issue. We have it too, Like, yeah,81800:42:11.360 --> 00:42:14.320



we have wealthy people and like all that stuff. Like,81900:42:14.400 --> 00:42:17.239



we have our issues. Some of these people are straight82000:42:17.320 --> 00:42:22.039



up nuts, bro, not because they're rich. I'm not knocking out.82100:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.360



I was raised by poor people. They're also fucking insane people.82200:42:25.800 --> 00:42:29.599



It doesn't really matter. But like, you know, there's some82300:42:30.639 --> 00:42:32.360



well we have what we have at the gym. The82400:42:32.440 --> 00:42:36.599



only people at the gym that I'm like, there's like82500:42:38.599 --> 00:42:44.320



remember the movie Malibusmost Wanted, Yeah, you get some kids82600:42:44.400 --> 00:42:48.000



like that, right, Grandpa killed it on Wall Street and82700:42:48.039 --> 00:42:50.719



no one's worked for generation now.82800:42:52.719 --> 00:42:53.280



Wealth group.82900:42:53.360 --> 00:42:57.320



Yeah, so like they're just walking around thinking they're cool.83000:42:57.360 --> 00:43:01.280



They got a sick car, they've done thing, which like83100:43:01.920 --> 00:43:04.599



they're not bad kids, but like they've they haven't had83200:43:04.639 --> 00:43:10.559



to develop a personality, right, like beyond money, beyond having83300:43:10.599 --> 00:43:14.480



money beyond which usually leads to like drugs because they're83400:43:14.519 --> 00:43:17.199



not getting the attention they want and et cetera from83500:43:17.239 --> 00:43:20.519



the right people and it's just they're bored and they're like,83600:43:20.559 --> 00:43:24.400



what the hell do I do? Like there's no, there's nothing,83700:43:24.400 --> 00:43:26.599



And I like, I say, like I hate those kids,83800:43:26.599 --> 00:43:28.320



but I also don't, like I just feel bad in83900:43:28.360 --> 00:43:31.119



some ways, but those the only people that gym where84000:43:31.119 --> 00:43:34.280



I'm like, oh boy, this was fucking guy. Like it's84100:43:34.360 --> 00:43:36.280



like they get easy kids.84200:43:36.519 --> 00:43:39.480



You know. I always thought that if I, you know,84300:43:39.639 --> 00:43:41.800



just fell into a giant pot of money, that I84400:43:41.840 --> 00:43:46.400



would not make significant changes to my life and definitely84500:43:46.440 --> 00:43:50.679



not make significant changes to my kids or now grandkids' lives.84600:43:50.760 --> 00:43:54.920



You know, like here's your safety net, so you can84700:43:55.199 --> 00:43:59.159



you can take some like risks that other people can't take,84800:43:59.239 --> 00:44:02.679



but don't don't lock into the privilege, you know.84900:44:03.199 --> 00:44:07.000



Yeah, that's the that's the problem. And like it's funny85000:44:07.000 --> 00:44:12.880



because like I grew up, I grew up around money.85100:44:12.920 --> 00:44:14.519



I grew up like first half of my life in85200:44:14.519 --> 00:44:19.159



Westchester County and then I moved to Fairfield County in Connecticut,85300:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.920



which are like, you know, there's the money there is insane.85400:44:23.039 --> 00:44:23.840



I didn't have that.85500:44:24.360 --> 00:44:26.079



My dad owned a bagel shop and then my dad85600:44:26.119 --> 00:44:32.320



went bankrupt twice. Like, but I grew up around some85700:44:32.519 --> 00:44:36.519



wild like type of wealth that was insane, so you85800:44:36.639 --> 00:44:38.920



just got to see. But I'm happy, but I wouldn't85900:44:38.920 --> 00:44:40.440



I wouldn't trade it for the world because at the86000:44:40.440 --> 00:44:43.440



same time, it like built everything. Like even like you know,86100:44:43.480 --> 00:44:45.639



I joke with my friends, but like having this apartment86200:44:45.760 --> 00:44:48.920



is like a big deal for me. Like the nice86300:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.880



building with the scan in and like parking garage and amenities,86400:44:52.880 --> 00:44:57.519



and we got the windows, the windows for the ceiling86500:44:57.639 --> 00:45:01.559



and on the high ceilings. And I'm like, dude, it's86600:45:01.599 --> 00:45:03.960



like this is cool because like it's all mine, right,86700:45:04.079 --> 00:45:09.159



like there's no whatever. But it's yeah. But growing up86800:45:09.159 --> 00:45:14.719



around that, you kind of it's interesting to watch, you see,86900:45:14.719 --> 00:45:16.599



And there's some there's kids who take advantage of it,87000:45:16.599 --> 00:45:19.280



and there's kids who don't. A lot of kids that87100:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.639



came from a lot of money that worked their fucking87200:45:22.039 --> 00:45:22.679



ass off.87300:45:23.000 --> 00:45:25.440



It's just like yeah, and some of it it's just87400:45:25.440 --> 00:45:28.280



how people are put together, you know, like what their87500:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.119



personalities are like for.87600:45:30.079 --> 00:45:33.199



Sure, dude, I started training this guy. I mean, for87700:45:33.239 --> 00:45:35.400



those who don't know, like, I started training this guy.87800:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.199



He was a private he was a cop forever. He's87900:45:37.199 --> 00:45:39.119



a private security guy. I'm not gonna use his name.88000:45:39.159 --> 00:45:41.800



But he was for those who know, like Nick Kroll's88100:45:41.880 --> 00:45:47.760



dad is a multi billionaire, Like yeah, from Westchester, and88200:45:47.840 --> 00:45:50.559



like he was a security guy forever. Like doesn't mean88300:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.440



that Nick Kroll is his dad, but he didn't do anything.88400:45:53.480 --> 00:45:57.119



Nick Kroll is talented. He did the thing. It's not88500:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.000



Oh he's a billionaires kid, it's not fair. It's like, no,88600:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.559



I don't know. He's really good at creating stuff. Like88700:46:02.679 --> 00:46:06.320



he's very talented. It doesn't matter. Like he also, it's88800:46:06.320 --> 00:46:10.039



not an easy business, dude, Like did he have more?88900:46:10.280 --> 00:46:12.760



Was he less stressed? Maybe because he probably didn't have89000:46:12.800 --> 00:46:17.119



to pay rent an apartment in LA or New York City?89100:46:17.239 --> 00:46:20.719



Maybe yeah, but like it's still fucking hard. Yeah.89200:46:21.159 --> 00:46:23.239



I think if you're born with a work ethic, it's89300:46:24.559 --> 00:46:27.960



you can you can work hard in any situation, in89400:46:27.960 --> 00:46:31.960



any scenario. And if you weren't born with one, he'll89500:46:31.960 --> 00:46:35.199



take advantage of everything in front of you and not89600:46:36.400 --> 00:46:37.599



and work as little as possible.89700:46:37.639 --> 00:46:38.519



I guess, I don't know.89800:46:38.960 --> 00:46:41.079



Yeah, it's just it's it's built in you, man. I89900:46:41.119 --> 00:46:42.800



know plenty of kids that came from a lot of90000:46:42.800 --> 00:46:44.519



money that worked their ass off, and there's some who90100:46:44.639 --> 00:46:47.159



end up like fucking Jamie Kennedy from Malibus Most Wanted.90200:46:47.199 --> 00:46:50.960



There's something you can do, but it's fun to watch.90300:46:51.119 --> 00:46:54.599



It's cool. I enjoy it. I think it's hilarious.90400:46:55.239 --> 00:46:57.199



Yeah.90500:46:58.199 --> 00:47:04.760



Do you have any like situations where you followed somebody90600:47:04.800 --> 00:47:07.679



on social media and they followed you back and you90700:47:07.719 --> 00:47:10.880



were surprised because they were like a somebody.90800:47:15.360 --> 00:47:16.039



Not yet?90900:47:16.599 --> 00:47:17.119



Not yet?91000:47:18.880 --> 00:47:20.760



No, I mean I'm friends with Lisa. That's like the91100:47:20.760 --> 00:47:21.280



most like.91200:47:21.400 --> 00:47:24.800



Yeah, I mean, I mean, so I'm sort of setting91300:47:24.840 --> 00:47:27.599



up a story.91400:47:28.280 --> 00:47:29.920



That has to do with Lisa kainda.91500:47:32.480 --> 00:47:36.800



Have I had an't even follow me? Not really, man,91600:47:36.840 --> 00:47:40.159



I think I can't nothing off the top of my head.91700:47:40.360 --> 00:47:42.559



I can't remember. I mean, unless you remember something that91800:47:42.599 --> 00:47:42.960



I don't.91900:47:43.079 --> 00:47:46.440



But I don't. But you you you you should? And92000:47:46.679 --> 00:47:48.760



how did you actually even meet Lisa? Do I even92100:47:48.760 --> 00:47:49.039



know that?92200:47:50.719 --> 00:47:57.400



I don't know what I could tell you? So fun fact,92300:47:57.760 --> 00:48:02.280



Bo was friends with her niece. They worked together at92400:48:02.280 --> 00:48:04.480



Indeed We in Connecticut where I live, So I live92500:48:04.519 --> 00:48:09.039



in Norwalk. Bo and her niece worked together at Indeed92600:48:09.360 --> 00:48:13.159



in Stanford. Bo was a sales guy back then. This92700:48:13.199 --> 00:48:18.079



is pre pandemic. This was twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, and uh,92800:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.599



he kind of like asked, you know, his friend, her92900:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.519



niece was like, would you like aunt come see me? Like,93000:48:26.239 --> 00:48:28.800



do stand up? Blah blah blah blah, and you know93100:48:28.960 --> 00:48:30.880



she did, and they were in the car ride over93200:48:30.920 --> 00:48:33.239



and Lisa just berated him the whole time because you93300:48:33.239 --> 00:48:37.199



better not fucking suck waste my fucking time, you know,93400:48:37.360 --> 00:48:39.000



just start fucking with him. And I was like, this93500:48:39.039 --> 00:48:42.000



is so funny. And I didn't know her yet, and93600:48:42.280 --> 00:48:44.599



you know, BO did well got off stage and she93700:48:44.679 --> 00:48:48.360



was like, dude, pretty good. That was good. You know.93800:48:48.400 --> 00:48:50.480



At this time, Bo and I were like really, I93900:48:50.480 --> 00:48:53.480



mean I was only a year in year and a half, yeah,94000:48:54.320 --> 00:48:59.239



and Bo maybe was three years. But long story short,94100:48:59.320 --> 00:49:01.320



they meet and he was like, yeah, Lisa's coming to94200:49:01.320 --> 00:49:02.880



one of our shows. We used to run a basement94300:49:02.920 --> 00:49:05.119



comedy club here in South Norwalk. There was a like94400:49:05.159 --> 00:49:07.239



a restaurant that hadn't turn into a nightclub at night,94500:49:08.000 --> 00:49:09.800



and we used to and we were killing it. You know,94600:49:09.840 --> 00:49:13.920



this is literally before the world ended, and we were94700:49:13.920 --> 00:49:17.599



making our money. And one of Lisa's friends at the94800:49:17.599 --> 00:49:21.760



time was headlining our club, little sixty room, basement piece94900:49:21.800 --> 00:49:27.159



of shit thing in Connecticut. Lisa, Liza, she's also from here.95000:49:28.239 --> 00:49:30.239



So she came to the show with her sister and whatever,95100:49:31.679 --> 00:49:34.440



and I was one of the openers. This is literally95200:49:34.519 --> 00:49:36.599



the week before the world shut down. This is the95300:49:36.599 --> 00:49:41.519



week before the pandemic. Cut got on stage, did my thing?95400:49:41.840 --> 00:49:46.960



Did well? Afterwards, she came up to me and she95500:49:47.039 --> 00:49:49.239



was with a bunch of comics in the back talking actually,95600:49:49.559 --> 00:49:58.039



and I walked in there and she goes, and you like, oh, no,95700:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.800



what she gonna say? And she goes, I liked every95800:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.639



single one of your jokes, she goes, except one, And95900:50:05.719 --> 00:50:07.800



I was like, okay. And at the time, when you're96000:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.039



new to colmedy, like, I think three of us had96100:50:10.159 --> 00:50:12.360



jokes about going down on chicks, which I blame my96200:50:12.440 --> 00:50:15.719



dad for, right, So I had a joke about me.96300:50:15.920 --> 00:50:17.880



She goes, none of you guys, this is a group96400:50:17.920 --> 00:50:20.000



of comments in the back, all dudes. None of you96500:50:20.159 --> 00:50:22.719



focks are good looking enough to be talking about going96600:50:22.760 --> 00:50:26.320



down on women. Okay, none of you, she goes, and96700:50:26.360 --> 00:50:29.679



we start dying laughing, all right, yeah, no, you know.96800:50:30.639 --> 00:50:32.159



And then she goes, oh, you've been going up in96900:50:32.159 --> 00:50:34.280



the city, And I go, well, you know, I work97000:50:34.400 --> 00:50:35.880



and as a trainer, and so I was like, I97100:50:35.920 --> 00:50:38.320



work early, so and she goes, oh, she stopped me97200:50:38.440 --> 00:50:41.920



dead my sentence. She went, oh, fuck off. She goes,97300:50:42.559 --> 00:50:45.039



you're good. There's something here. She goes, you want to97400:50:45.039 --> 00:50:47.400



be a fucking comedian in Norwalk, Connecticut the rest of97500:50:47.440 --> 00:50:50.559



your life. She goes, get into the city and I97600:50:50.599 --> 00:50:53.679



was like okay, and then the next week shut down,97700:50:53.880 --> 00:50:58.079



so it was like oh. And then through Zoom and97800:50:58.119 --> 00:51:01.199



like I think the last time out to dinner before97900:51:01.239 --> 00:51:02.880



the restaurant shut down, it was like me Lisa in98000:51:02.920 --> 00:51:05.400



a few comics at a diner and then it shut down,98100:51:05.840 --> 00:51:09.679



and then we would do shit through Zoom and then98200:51:09.719 --> 00:51:12.800



it just every week and then you know, Lisa's retired,98300:51:12.840 --> 00:51:16.000



and it was kind of like liked bo and I98400:51:16.119 --> 00:51:17.840



led to the podcast and Alle, but that's how we98500:51:17.920 --> 00:51:19.960



met was that night and she was like you can,98600:51:20.119 --> 00:51:25.400



like something can happen here if you try, like you're good, yeah,98700:51:25.440 --> 00:51:29.559



and you get enough of those where like I started,98800:51:29.599 --> 00:51:31.239



it was fine. Then I had a client that believed98900:51:31.239 --> 00:51:32.920



in me, helped me run shows, and that was fine,99000:51:32.920 --> 00:51:34.920



and then like Lisa and you're like, oh shit, and99100:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.559



then you meet people in comics who were experienced they're like, yeah,99200:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.159



you're good man, and you're like, okay, I guess I99300:51:39.199 --> 00:51:43.800



should keep going, you know, like why not try in99400:51:43.880 --> 00:51:47.880



every comic you know that's worth anything now, you like99500:51:47.880 --> 00:51:52.400



like like a Sebastian or whatever Bill Burr, they're like ten, eleven, twelve,99600:51:52.559 --> 00:51:57.800



fifteen years in and sit starts clicking and you're like, oh,99700:51:58.199 --> 00:52:00.920



you know, it takes a while. It takes a while.99800:52:00.960 --> 00:52:02.360



And there's some people where it doesn't take a while99900:52:02.440 --> 00:52:06.039



or something. There's social media people break through quick and whatever.100000:52:06.440 --> 00:52:08.639



I'll tell you what, man, And it's all good because100100:52:08.639 --> 00:52:10.000



they're making their money. And I'm not trying to be100200:52:10.039 --> 00:52:12.199



a dick, like because I should be putting my shit100300:52:12.239 --> 00:52:15.079



out there too more. But like most I've opened for100400:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.119



those people who have made it big on TikTok and100500:52:17.159 --> 00:52:19.960



wherever I ain't good.100600:52:21.280 --> 00:52:23.400



I think I may have texted this to you at100700:52:23.480 --> 00:52:25.000



some point in the past few months.100800:52:25.000 --> 00:52:29.320



But Ruby set Nik, I don't know. Maybe well she100900:52:29.639 --> 00:52:34.440



just did. Uh. She was one of the first comics101000:52:34.519 --> 00:52:38.159



this time round. Uh. And then Netflix is a joke.101100:52:39.119 --> 00:52:41.840



Okay, festival the festival okay.101200:52:42.280 --> 00:52:47.159



And like I she was in my first improv class,101300:52:47.400 --> 00:52:50.400



which was her first improv class and she was eighteen,101400:52:50.519 --> 00:52:53.599



I think, and you could tell she was just going101500:52:53.679 --> 00:52:55.880



to kill it. And she's killing.101600:52:55.760 --> 00:52:59.960



She's very funny. Yeah, like she's one of those except101700:53:00.000 --> 00:53:01.280



shouldn't that proves the rule?101800:53:01.519 --> 00:53:06.719



You know, where if you just have lightning in a bottle,101900:53:07.039 --> 00:53:09.159



like if you just fell out of the womb like that,102000:53:09.239 --> 00:53:12.920



and she had like you know, she had a difficult upbringing.102100:53:13.159 --> 00:53:17.679



That is a real like rich vein of comedy for her.102200:53:18.440 --> 00:53:21.960



And she and she's somebody that would say anything like102300:53:21.960 --> 00:53:23.519



if you were in an improvi scene with her, you102400:53:23.599 --> 00:53:25.559



really did not know where things were going to go102500:53:26.199 --> 00:53:29.760



right And and yeah, just just the exception that proves102600:53:29.800 --> 00:53:37.960



the rule. You know, She's that was twenty seventeen, you know,102700:53:38.280 --> 00:53:39.719



and so she's.102800:53:40.079 --> 00:53:44.840



Yeah, dude, like I just keep trying shit, dude, It's102900:53:44.880 --> 00:53:46.320



just like, why, why the fuck not?103000:53:47.239 --> 00:53:49.679



Some of some of the folks that you that you103100:53:49.800 --> 00:53:53.679



know there, have been kind enough to when I follow103200:53:53.760 --> 00:53:55.639



them on on social media, they followed me back.103300:53:57.039 --> 00:53:59.880



But the but a couple of ones that that bother103400:54:00.199 --> 00:54:05.239



my mind. Uh, probably the one that boggles me the103500:54:05.239 --> 00:54:07.000



most is Steve Hofstetter.103600:54:08.199 --> 00:54:12.280



Really he's you know, he's got three hundred thousand something103700:54:12.320 --> 00:54:14.480



on Instagram. I followed him, he followed me back, and103800:54:14.519 --> 00:54:17.880



I could never figure out why. But I have two theories.103900:54:17.960 --> 00:54:19.639



One of them has to do with the fact that104000:54:19.639 --> 00:54:21.239



Lisa still follows me for some reason.104100:54:24.039 --> 00:54:25.599



The other ones I have a blue check. Those are104200:54:25.679 --> 00:54:29.480



those the only like, there's the only only ones I104300:54:29.480 --> 00:54:32.920



can figure out. There's no reason why you know that104400:54:32.920 --> 00:54:33.920



that that would be the case.104500:54:34.920 --> 00:54:39.039



That's so interesting. Yeah, but I yeah, I mean, you're104600:54:39.079 --> 00:54:40.960



cooler than I am. Dude, I haven't really had anyone104700:54:41.760 --> 00:54:45.679



follow me back. I follow I follow my actor client,104800:54:45.719 --> 00:54:47.320



but I don't I don't want him to know anything104900:54:47.360 --> 00:54:48.039



about what I do.105000:54:48.159 --> 00:54:51.239



So so you hope he doesn't follow you back?105100:54:51.360 --> 00:54:51.960



Is that this story?105200:54:52.079 --> 00:54:54.119



Well, he doesn't check it. I asked him. I was like,105300:54:54.199 --> 00:54:57.599



do you check this? And he was like no. And105400:54:57.639 --> 00:54:59.480



I asked to see his d MS because I was like,105500:54:59.480 --> 00:55:02.360



it has to be crazy, like it has to.105600:55:02.360 --> 00:55:05.719



Be I imagine that it's like sometimes obscene.105700:55:06.599 --> 00:55:09.559



Oh I couldn't. I couldn't imagine. I was like, come on.105800:55:09.679 --> 00:55:10.320



To show me.105900:55:10.760 --> 00:55:15.400



And the other one that that surprises me is is106000:55:15.440 --> 00:55:21.880



Brian Koppleman. He was the co showrunner of Billions on showtime.106100:55:23.320 --> 00:55:26.039



He plays the computer on the bear.106200:55:27.400 --> 00:55:28.679



Oh bear.106300:55:29.039 --> 00:55:29.559



Yeah.106400:55:30.159 --> 00:55:34.960



Oh fuck, dude, that's so cool. I love dude.106500:55:35.440 --> 00:55:41.960



Yeah, and uh he uh like we actually like he106600:55:41.960 --> 00:55:44.639



He followed me back and then like we've had you know,106700:55:44.760 --> 00:55:50.000



exchanges through through d MS and stuff, which boggles my mind.106800:55:50.079 --> 00:55:56.400



And then he was he was interviewing Sam Suleik, bodybuilder.106900:55:57.599 --> 00:55:58.480



I know who that is.107000:55:58.599 --> 00:55:59.320



You know who that is?107100:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.280



Yeah, at the Arnold last year, and he was wandering107200:56:02.280 --> 00:56:03.679



around the Arnold the first time he had ever been107300:56:03.719 --> 00:56:04.199



to the Arnold.107400:56:04.679 --> 00:56:07.719



And you know the Masconomics guys.107500:56:07.559 --> 00:56:09.840



Yes, a little bit. I only know. I think I107600:56:09.840 --> 00:56:11.320



only know them through you, I believe.107700:56:11.559 --> 00:56:14.559



Yeah, And I knew they had a booth there, and107800:56:14.599 --> 00:56:17.960



I said, you know, have fun whatever. And then I107900:56:18.039 --> 00:56:21.440



go say hi to Tommy and Tanner for me, and108000:56:21.480 --> 00:56:25.440



so we did that and he's like, you know, messes108100:56:25.480 --> 00:56:27.239



me back, Oh they were great whatever whatever.108200:56:28.079 --> 00:56:32.960



And then this weekend they've been doing Tommy and Tanner108300:56:33.079 --> 00:56:37.559



been doing like home gym tours, like going to and108400:56:37.559 --> 00:56:38.760



so they went to Brian's gym.108500:56:38.880 --> 00:56:40.360



They do it like a Northeast tour. And they went108600:56:40.400 --> 00:56:44.440



to Brian's gym and so I saw the picture yesterday108700:56:45.079 --> 00:56:47.320



that that Brian posted and I was like, oh, hell yeah,108800:56:47.320 --> 00:56:47.920



and he said.108900:56:47.760 --> 00:56:50.079



Yeah, we we gave you full credit.109000:56:52.039 --> 00:56:53.960



Oh I love that.109100:56:54.320 --> 00:56:56.480



My brushes with with fame.109200:57:00.559 --> 00:57:03.880



The coolest. I didn't even get like obviously Lisa is109300:57:03.920 --> 00:57:05.519



a friend now, so it's not even even think of109400:57:05.559 --> 00:57:08.239



it like that, but like no one really, I will109500:57:08.239 --> 00:57:11.039



tell you. The most like not even nervous or like109600:57:11.079 --> 00:57:18.119



excited I got was like honestly meeting like honestly meeting109700:57:18.199 --> 00:57:20.639



like you when you were working on the Power cast109800:57:20.800 --> 00:57:24.599



and like getting to come to the gym and like109900:57:24.679 --> 00:57:27.519



meet you, Matt Vincent, fucking Kelly Sturett. And then when110000:57:27.519 --> 00:57:30.320



I went to the Arnold and met Jim Wendler and Daved,110100:57:31.119 --> 00:57:34.880



that for me is like like that's why, Like even110200:57:34.920 --> 00:57:37.679



like I have an actor client or I meet people110300:57:37.760 --> 00:57:42.480



who were like whatever. I went to Jeff Ross's show110400:57:42.559 --> 00:57:46.119



on Broadway recently, like Seth Green was in my row110500:57:46.559 --> 00:57:49.960



like oh wow, big deal. Can't hardly wait like that110600:57:50.119 --> 00:57:52.519



was I don't get, like I'm like, oh that's awesome,110700:57:53.119 --> 00:57:56.360



but like meeting fucking Louis Simmons and I was like,110800:57:56.400 --> 00:58:01.400



holy fucking shit, like this is like yeah, take you guys,110900:58:01.440 --> 00:58:03.880



like that was like a big fucking deal for me.111000:58:04.199 --> 00:58:06.239



I got more nervous with that, Like I feel like111100:58:07.400 --> 00:58:09.760



I feel like DiCaprio. Leonardo DiCaprio could fucking walk in111200:58:09.760 --> 00:58:11.559



here and I'd be like, hey man, it's so cool111300:58:11.559 --> 00:58:13.400



to meet you. But I wouldn't be like, oh shit,111400:58:14.000 --> 00:58:17.079



like those were met. I got to meet John Cena111500:58:17.079 --> 00:58:18.760



and he went to my college and he came back.111600:58:19.320 --> 00:58:22.400



Yeah for like to do like a make a wish thing,111700:58:22.440 --> 00:58:24.000



and he used to live with the football team. His111800:58:24.079 --> 00:58:26.119



numbers retired the whole year. Is this sweetest man in111900:58:26.119 --> 00:58:29.519



the world. Like a week my first He's the nicest112000:58:29.559 --> 00:58:32.199



guy ever. He was literally in an ESPN T shirt112100:58:32.239 --> 00:58:36.639



and Cargo shorts. It was November in Massachusetts. He was112200:58:36.719 --> 00:58:38.880



drinking a pap stole ribbon in the corner of the112300:58:38.880 --> 00:58:41.000



townhouse is where like the seniors live. It was his112400:58:41.079 --> 00:58:42.960



old townhouse, and like I just went up to him112500:58:42.960 --> 00:58:44.880



and started talking him about deadliftings. I was like, I'm112600:58:44.920 --> 00:58:46.800



not I have no wrestling, but I not like my112700:58:46.800 --> 00:58:49.360



friends do, Like they're really fucking into it. Yeah. I112800:58:49.440 --> 00:58:50.960



used to watch how he used to I used to112900:58:50.960 --> 00:58:54.119



watch his lifting videos and I was like obsessed with that,113000:58:54.199 --> 00:58:56.400



and I used to read Louis and then I used113100:58:56.400 --> 00:58:58.440



to read Elite Fts and like that's why I used113200:58:58.480 --> 00:59:00.519



to spend my time doing so those were guys were113300:59:00.559 --> 00:59:04.000



like fucking celebrities for me. That Arnold in like twenty eighteen,113400:59:04.039 --> 00:59:08.719



Like nothing's ever gonna top that was like hanging out113500:59:08.760 --> 00:59:11.400



with Mike vaihe and podcasting at West Side Barber Like113600:59:11.440 --> 00:59:14.199



I'm good, I'm great. I don't need to do anything anymore.113700:59:15.880 --> 00:59:17.119



It was the best time in my life.113800:59:18.360 --> 00:59:23.519



I need to get mic on sometime soon. Oh he's busy,113900:59:23.599 --> 00:59:25.719



but having kids now.114000:59:26.519 --> 00:59:28.960



Yeah yeah, yeah, I got to meet his kid last year,114100:59:29.719 --> 00:59:32.280



all right, yeah, yeah, they were they were in town114200:59:32.320 --> 00:59:34.159



here and we went and hung out for a while.114300:59:35.480 --> 00:59:40.519



He's the best, dude, good guy, he's the best. Really,114400:59:40.840 --> 00:59:43.119



this is a great guy. And yeah, no, I get114500:59:43.159 --> 00:59:43.719



what you're saying.114600:59:43.760 --> 00:59:49.480



I like, I'm never overly overly impressed with with anybody whatever.114700:59:49.639 --> 00:59:51.800



I'm I like this social media thing, I'm shocked when114800:59:51.800 --> 00:59:53.880



I get followed back, but like when I meet somebody114900:59:53.880 --> 00:59:56.039



in person, I'm not usually overwhelmed by.115000:59:56.719 --> 00:59:59.880



Because I realized that it's a job, Like it's a job. Here,115101:00:00.400 --> 01:00:01.639



A lot of people know who you are.115201:00:02.400 --> 01:00:05.039



That's that's you know, and and some people get paid115301:00:05.039 --> 01:00:06.760



a lot of money for doing that and being that115401:00:06.800 --> 01:00:09.679



and some people don't. And there's like you can be115501:00:09.800 --> 01:00:11.360



very well known and not make any money.115601:00:11.400 --> 01:00:16.920



That's in this day and age for sure, So I115701:00:17.000 --> 01:00:24.159



hear yeah, but yeah, no, I mean that's you know,115801:00:24.159 --> 01:00:26.559



we used to hang out with a lot of different115901:00:26.599 --> 01:00:29.239



folks and like, you know, I like you.116001:00:29.320 --> 01:00:32.519



I've never was, never been the biggest wrestling fan, except116101:00:32.559 --> 01:00:34.360



like when I was a little kid and my grandmother116201:00:34.480 --> 01:00:38.000



was into watching the Rocks dad wrestling.116301:00:40.119 --> 01:00:42.320



That's dude, that's old ship.116401:00:42.800 --> 01:00:43.679



That's some old ship.116501:00:43.760 --> 01:00:46.480



Yeah no, I I was like this close to meeting116601:00:46.519 --> 01:00:48.480



the Rock back then, and I just didn't. I like116701:00:48.639 --> 01:00:51.880



called it a night early one time and and just116801:00:52.000 --> 01:00:54.440



missed him. But seeing now a couple of times, and116901:00:55.199 --> 01:00:58.960



you know, several of the other and we had we117001:00:59.000 --> 01:01:01.440



had seth rawlins in the him a few months ago for.117101:01:02.480 --> 01:01:04.800



And like we just left him alone. Like we had117201:01:04.840 --> 01:01:06.119



actually two members who wanted to.117301:01:06.079 --> 01:01:08.079



Take pictures with him, and they were girls and they117401:01:08.079 --> 01:01:12.920



went did that, but we just like, you know, we're117501:01:12.920 --> 01:01:15.320



blocks from the arena where they're performing, and he came117601:01:15.360 --> 01:01:18.719



in and like, you know, signing it with his real name,117701:01:19.000 --> 01:01:25.000



and and the guy was working the desk is like,117801:01:25.800 --> 01:01:30.679



pretty sure I know who that really is. Okay, yeah,117901:01:30.760 --> 01:01:35.079



but you know, you just you people want to be appreciated,118001:01:35.079 --> 01:01:37.320



but they don't want to be like overwhelmed if they're118101:01:38.320 --> 01:01:43.599



you know, and I mean probably the other big one,118201:01:43.719 --> 01:01:47.880



stone Cold was cool. That's awesome, meaning stone Cold was118301:01:47.880 --> 01:01:50.519



cool and he just gave me endless.118401:01:50.199 --> 01:01:52.880



Shit too, So he was like, he was like, Lisa,118501:01:52.920 --> 01:01:54.199



does you you know?118601:01:55.440 --> 01:01:57.880



That was pretty much what it was like really like118701:01:58.119 --> 01:01:59.800



you know, roughly the same age or whatever.118801:01:59.840 --> 01:02:02.480



And you know, that's so fun.118901:02:02.960 --> 01:02:04.000



It's easy to mess with me.119001:02:04.599 --> 01:02:05.079



I love that.119101:02:07.519 --> 01:02:10.719



All right, this is good. I love you.119201:02:11.320 --> 01:02:12.360



Fuck this dude.119301:02:16.159 --> 01:02:18.639



Where can people find you?119401:02:18.639 --> 01:02:23.280



You can find me on Instagram at nick Scopes because119501:02:23.280 --> 01:02:26.039



my last name is too long and hard for people, you.119601:02:26.000 --> 01:02:29.880



Know, too long and too hard a problem to have.119701:02:30.280 --> 01:02:35.639



That's so my dad always said about me. Yeah, Nextcopes119801:02:35.639 --> 01:02:39.440



on Instagram and TikTok. That's really it. You can listen119901:02:39.480 --> 01:02:41.960



to the podcast that I have release. It's called shrink This.120001:02:42.360 --> 01:02:46.079



I'm her co host. It's mostly her podcast, but like120101:02:46.119 --> 01:02:51.079



people write in and I have questions just about life stuff,120201:02:51.320 --> 01:02:52.760



he said. We try to answer them to the best120301:02:52.800 --> 01:02:56.880



of our ability. It's been so much goddamn fun. So120401:02:56.920 --> 01:03:00.679



that's been cool. That's on iHeart Radio, but like that's120501:03:00.679 --> 01:03:03.440



really it. Just follow me on Instagram and tiktoks and120601:03:05.280 --> 01:03:08.239



send nudes if you want. You know, only if you're120701:03:08.280 --> 01:03:12.199



a guy though, because if you're a girl. Yeah, guys,120801:03:12.280 --> 01:03:17.039



it's easier. You know, women cause too much trouble. So please,120901:03:18.079 --> 01:03:20.400



just got a flood of dig pics. What are your121001:03:20.599 --> 01:03:22.679



what are your downloads? Like jims, it's gonna be bad.121101:03:22.719 --> 01:03:23.159



Did I make it?121201:03:24.920 --> 01:03:25.920



I don't think you have to worry?121301:03:26.079 --> 01:03:30.719



Okay, cool, cool, care It's great. Yeah, but yeah, that's it, dude,121401:03:30.760 --> 01:03:32.920



And I as always dude. I appreciate you having me121501:03:33.000 --> 01:03:35.719



on man and it's always a pleasure talking to you121601:03:35.800 --> 01:03:37.599



even when we're not on a podcast.121701:03:38.000 --> 01:03:39.400



Person, I appreciate you being on.121801:03:39.920 --> 01:03:42.000



I am at dj mcdehon all the social media that121901:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.400



shows fifty percent facts percent is the word and fifty122001:03:44.480 --> 01:03:46.480



is just numbers. Fifty percent Facts is a speaker prime122101:03:46.480 --> 01:03:49.519



podcast with like Art Media on the Obscure Celebrity Network.122201:03:50.119 --> 01:03:53.400



I'll talk to you next week.