Could any fitness influencer ever become a movie/TV star?

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All right, welcome to this episode
of fifty percent Acts. We're talking to

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all you nerd influencers. Yeah,
we're talking about I'm Jim. That's Mike

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we're talking about. I was I
was just listening to another podcast with an

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interview with a an author who wrote
a book about kind of the current state

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of social media influence and a book
book, a book book. Yeah that's

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crazy because influencing, you could argue, is a decade old. Yeah maybe

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yeah, yeah, like I already
write books about it blows my mind.

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I mean yeah, they refer to
the whole thing as the creator economy.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, yah,
I've heard of that and it makes sense

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now, yeah, you know,
in twenty twenty four, and it's so

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vast, you know, from five
thousand followers up to the Kardashians. I

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think people put as the topic influencers
is the world? Uh yeah, probably

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because they obviously have a TV show
that launched their career, or the a

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dad that was friends with famous people
that launched their career, and yeah,

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the porn tape, the reality show. But they are real powers in social

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media, oh yeah, for sure, and they dominate that world. Are

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they still? No? I think
they're the third biggest following. I thinks

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Ronaldo is still number one. Maybe
I might be wrong. We could look

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it up, Jamie, I think
it's uh. I think it's Ronaldo.

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But they're always in the conversation of
most followed on the planet. I didn't

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remember my iPad over here, Simon, that's right, he's gonna hack that

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system. Okay, yeah, they
They definitely are the most famous people who

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got there without like a regular career
ahead of time. No, yeah,

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yeah, because even still they haven't
really like acted per se, even though

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their show is clearly script Yeah,
clearly acting, and the acting in the

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porn vid is mediocre at best.
Speaking of acting, this is a This

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is an aside. But did you
see that Jada Pinkett Smith said that she

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and Will have been separated since twenty
sixteen. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.

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Even when I was younger, Mom
my mom for some reason. I

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don't know why she reads shit,
but she has like some weird insider infos

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sometimes, like I swear because Will. Growing up, Will Smith was one

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of my favorite actors, like Mena
Black's one of my favorite. Fresh Prince

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is one of my favorite I wrote
about I love all it. I would

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think we've talked about it here when
we talk about movies, like, sometimes

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I I choose like a favorite actor
and it's not even because they're good at

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acting or not, even though Will
Smith's a fine actor, but it's because,

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like they tend to choose scripts that
I like, Oh yeah, you

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know what I mean. So Will
Smith just ends up in the type of

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movies that I like. You could
have probably swapped them with someone else,

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and I'd still like those movies just
as much. Like Fresh Prince. Maybe

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not because he probably wrote a shit
tone of I think he was like a

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producer, et cetera, et cetera, But it feels like that character was

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kind of built around here. Yeah
well yeah, one hundred percent was.

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But then the rest of the movies, though arguably someone else could have picked

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that, and I was still love
Men of Black. I would have still

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loved I don't even know Ali.
I don't know who else could have done

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Ali. Yeah, I thought he
was good. I went back. I

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loved it when it came out because
I've been a Muhammad Ali fan. But

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a lot of people hated that movie
and the reviews were trash. But yeah,

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why, Yeah, it's not considered
to be that great a film.

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Yeah, I think it's pretty good. I've rewatched him many times. I

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still think it's like pretty good,
not as like obviously it's not like one

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of the best of all time movies, but the story is obviously amazing.

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Yeah, he's pretty good in it, Like he plays Ali really well.

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Yeah, and then like the overall
script's pretty good because they touch a lot

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of things. Muhammad A League's career
is twenty years of chaos. You know,

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he's got so many stories within that, and they touch it pretty good

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while still making continuity long story short. I was a big fan of Will

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Smith, and then mom back in
the day said something about them having like

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open relationship yeah, and being like
swingery and this is like when I'm in

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high schools, like oh four,
So that doesn't really surprise me that they've

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been separate or whatever. Because then
there was the huge drama in what twenty

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seven to twenty eighteen where they did
like a roundtable together, Yeah they have

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bred table tops, yeah, yeah, or like and they did those,

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but they didn't with the pretense that
they were still act actively together. I

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don't know, because one of the
big talks was about her having another dude.

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Yeah exactly, yea, yeah,
exactly open or I mean, I

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don't know. Everyone has their own
definitions nowadays of separated, open, monogonous.

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I don't know what any of the
fucking means. But yeah, she

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said living separate lives. Yeah,
I'm not that surprised. No, I

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think I'm not really either, But
it's just what I'm surprised about it is

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it took this long to come out
and had been fronting for so long.

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Yeah. Yeah, they would show
up to like shows or something together,

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but I think a lot of people
are married and still live separate lives too.

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Get maya strange wife's name out of
your motherfucking mouth, yeah, which

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like puts a new spin on that, right, Like, Yeah, for

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sure. It does definitely show that
he's got some kind of deep love or

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weird connection because possessiveness. Yea,
maybe, I don't know. I've read

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a lot. He obviously gets slandered
a ton lately, one because of like

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kind of because of her in a
way, and then obviously because of those

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actions. Trying to think of anything
like what I've seen him in that I

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actually liked, And I think it's
really honestly got to be the men in

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black movies. I am legend.
I loved that im legend Again, I

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don't know if I liked him and
Age. I love that movie. You

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know, it's fine, it's fine. I liked there are some really good

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like scenes in that movie. That
one got really good reviews, right,

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yeah, it did. Yeah,
And I think it's good, super classic

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story based on a book. You
know, it's weird how things going like

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cycles like that, because during that
time, like World War Z came out.

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I like that a lot. Like
zombie movies all were a thing.

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Yeah, AI was all a thing, and then this is all a thing.

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World war Z did not get good
reviews. Really, I think that's

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pretty good too. It was a
weird adaptation from the original. Yeah,

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yeah, I hadn't seen the original
the original book. The book was written

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by mel Brook's son. I wish
yeah, newer issue. Yeah, so

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what he what he wrote was,
or the way he wrote it as if

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it were You know how when they
do World War two documentaries, they can't

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do it anymore because they're just not
that many people around with the good memories

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anymore. But you know, fifteen
twenty years ago when they would have people

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talk about their recollections of the war, like from their perspective or whatever,

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oral history kind of stuff. That's
what World War Ze the book was about.

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A zombie apocalypse. Yes, interesting
it from told from the perspective of

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several years after they'd retaken the world. Interesting. Yeah, that movie is

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not really like that. No movie
is not like that at all. They

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never I mean you don't necessarily have
a strong sense that they're really out of

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it. But yeah, yeah,
it would be a hard movie to shoot.

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Yeah. The only way you do
that is like a little sit down

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in the beginning, and then you
fade away back into it, right,

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because you have to show, not
tell. Yeah, I was thinking it's

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it's kind of like this s Bander
Brothers series where you see the real guys

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talk about their World War two experience
and you see the fictionalized version, and

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then they play off of each other. You know, there's a they're kind

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of a conversation. So like if
if the actor is going to leaning toward

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toward uh an emotion or whatever,
you see, what the the the guy

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who's actually there happening. Yeah,
I might have might have said anyway back

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to influencers, Yeah, Will Smith's
a decent uh segue, because the conversation

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is about influencers that Will can or
Will want to go quote unquote mainstream.

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How when? Why? But I
think if you look at any you know,

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the ecosystem in general of entertainment and
content creation is a portion of that.

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Yeah, you don't really see it, and I don't think because they're

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uncapable, but you see the opposite. Will Smith went to YouTube and Instagram.

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Kevin Hart, who was big,
went to YouTube and it's heat.

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They're coming to us. Yeah not
who's like fuck bro? The three guys,

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one of them is Ozark Bateman SmartLess. Yeah. Yeah, they go

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do a podcast. We'll learn it. Yeah, it's not going the other

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way. Yeah, it's not going
the other way. They're coming here.

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And then they put out a documentary
on their tour. It's a vlog.

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Yeah it's on Netflix, but it's
still a vlog. Yeah. I haven't

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watched it, but yeah, it's
not bad. I haven't listened to that

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show in a while, but I
did during the pandemic. That's when they

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started and they were like working from
their own houses and whatever, and they

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have they obviously know each other really
well. Yeah, and they play off

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each other really well, and they've
got that kind of, you know,

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dad joke vibe going on. Yeah, I like the show. I never

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watched the podcast or listening to the
pod, but I watched a little bit

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of the documentary and it's just cool
because of that because you can tell they're

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real friends. Sean Hayes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could tell

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like they're real friends, and so
that's kind of fun for them to fuck

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around with each other and kind of
do what they want. And then obviously

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they have connections to the biggest guests
in the world, so it's kind of

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like a no brainer to have a
big podcast similar with like a Rogan.

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Now, Like in the beginning,
it was like special, right because he

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was kind of just like a seedless
comedian, and then he's getting bigger guests

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on You're like, oh shit,
these conversations are cool. And then now

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he has access to everyone, so
not that they're not as cool, but

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it's just kind of a no brainer. Like right now you're just Howard Stern.

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Now you're just David Letterman. Yeah, you can do. His platform

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is so big that he can be
pretty much anybody any of that really wants

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to come on there. Yeah,
I'm actually surprised, and maybe maybe it's

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a pr because they don't trust a
move without like a Kardashians or someone doesn't

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have a podcast. Yeah, ba
guys doing it now again, everyone's coming

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this wee and THEA guys aren't running
to do a movie. They all start

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a podcast. They all started tiktoks
with clips like Patrick Beverley, JJ Reddick,

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Matt Barnes is going crazy with his
and Steven Jackson like all those guys

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are coming this way. Conor O'Brien
basically like quit his show, I think

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sort of for his podcast. You
know that, And I think his contract

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was running and it is like money
and whatever. But you know, yeah,

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you have potential to make more money. You got way more freedom in

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creation. Obviously, make your own
schedule. Running a late night show sounds

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like the most terrible job ever.
It does sound really challenging. Yeah,

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showing up at noon, going through
a full read through, revamped the script.

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You maybe getch a bunch of a
bunch of times, probably with a

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table of people that are like half
writers, half people checking you to make

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sure you don't get fucked up on
live TV. Yeah then yeah, you

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maybe get an hour break, then
you're back in the makeup, do it

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all again. You're probably off at
like ten at night, and then you

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rinse and repeat like that sounds like
trash. Yeah, I think that they

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finished up a little bit earlier than
that. I think they started earlier than

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that. But yeah, yeah,
but it's ten it's probably a ten hour

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day. They I think they typically
tape around three or four in the afternoon.

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Yeah, so they probably start at
eight a m. Yeah. Yeah,

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it sounds like trash. Yeah.
Uh. It is, however,

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pretty fun to go watch those shows
get filmed. I can imagine. I

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can imagine we'd uh cove and I
did Craig for Ferguson back in the day

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before before he left that show.
Yeah, yeah, I mean the concept

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of it's great just being an employee
there. Yeah, we're even a writer,

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right You reading a writer would be
really hard. You right til two

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pm and then and then the show
goes and then you got to start writing

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again because you're uns sure like just
very very incredibly naturally funny and it just

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stuff just rolls off. Yeah,
but even then you have to like watch

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the news like crazy. Yeah,
yeah, you have to. I mean

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you have to go through the papers
and then and everything, just figure out

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what's going to have a hook.
Speaking of cove and comedy, however,

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though I haven't watched it yet,
but he said he just did an open

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mic in Bulgaria of our our cove. Yes, yeah, in English,

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in English. I don't think he
speaks Bulgarian, Yeah, German or any

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of that stuff. Yeah, he
said he did primarily five minutes of nine

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to eleven, which is weird because
his dad died in nine eleven and pedophilia

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jokes. Nice. I wonder how
that flows international. Apparently it killed.

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I don't know. In America,
i'd probably kill because like some edgy shits

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back. Yeah, you know,
you get a lot of comedy shows and

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they take your phone away, they
get a little edgy, right, But

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I don't know. Yeah, I
don't know what's happening in I guess Eastern

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Europe. Yeah, humor, I
don't either. Anyway, this podcast episode

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that I was listening to really identified
mister Beast as like the biggest, biggest

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influencer, the most successful influencer from
a you know, purely organic no connection

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to anything ahead of time for sure. Category. Yeah, probably views and

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money dude goes a psycho. His
shit's literally movies. Yeah, like like

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stole his shit? Did they?
I don't know they went they went squid

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Games, right, Yeah, then
he does a real life squid Games and

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other game shows like that. Obviously
he's not killing people, but you know,

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with high risk type shit, and
obviously it's been done. Everyone finds

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inspo, right American Gladiator and whatever
in the vein. But he does more

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games similar to squid Games. And
then now Netflix is doing that like a

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real life Squid Games, not contacting
him, not asking to nothing like that.

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Not that he would because he's already
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which again goes to the argument like
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content creators or more social media's mainstream
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think that's probably true. It's also
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over into the mandstream. It can
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right that makes them cool or popular. So it might seem sellout e But

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I think if they had more hands
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it wouldn't. But what are those
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them as the little fish, So
they bring them into their pond. They

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don't allow him to build the pond, right, So they grab a because

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you know, you tap into fitness. The only person that's like on that

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level right now probably is like a
Bradley Martin. So they grab Brad and

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they want to throw them into a
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situation is he has. He's gonna
be fed everything. He doesn't get to

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be Brad and he doesn't get to
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corny. They're not gonna have them in

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on the writer's meeting. Yeah,
you know, they're gonna throw them a

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script and say, hey, you
stand there and you do this. Yeah,

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similar to the times that you and
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with reality show people potentially for the
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in, and just like they almost
all of their ideas are corny, nothing

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seems authentic. Yeah, they they
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get it and sometimes obviously, Yeah, like content creators back in the day

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this is like fourteen fifteen sixteen would
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Wrote scripts and people try to acquire
jkfilms, but then they try to

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like they come to you because they
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change you, right, Like why
does that work at all? Like literally,

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just put our shit with better cameras
and more budget and let us do

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it right and then it'll probably have
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powerlifting show that actually did make it
around similar time. I mean didn't make

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it, but it got shot.
At least it ended up on TV.

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It did end up on TV.
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tell was highly scripted and it got
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two or three episodes before they got
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of it that have potential too,
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the pro athletes and you get to
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training facility of pro athletes, it'd
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a lot of fun. There's a
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hard work, there's a lot of
adversity and stories. Like there's a lot

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of good like stuff there that the
world should see, but they'll just never

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let it be organic. Yeah,
that's the problem. And part of it

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too is like when things are really
organic, you have to keep the cameras

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running all the time, right,
you do need it's more editing, it's

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more footage. But even that,
I think you find ways, you know,

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because YouTube does it correct. Right. Like, again, if we're

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the creators, it's not like we're
filming all day. I film a lot

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in here, you know, I
film what day, say Friday, we

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had Monday off. I probably filmed
eight hours this week. Yeah, like

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that's a lot. Yeah, but
it's not and that's going to be what

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probably twenty tiktoks, two YouTube's,
five instagrams, yeah, and then plus

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this something like that. But other
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eight am, film to six pm, and that's probably thirty videos and who

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had thirty full youtubes and who knows
how many And that is like a full

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day of filming. But I mean
a lot of people move that way.

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It's not like we don't move professionally
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grabs you, there's a call sheet
for JK. When I go like,

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it's all like super legitimate so it's
not like we're just like savages stepping into

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Hollywood, right. You know a
lot of people are back, especially bart

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in them, like are background trained
in that? And then podcast world like

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sure, they might have eventually evolved
and people use like radio terms or radio

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ideas, but like podcasts is its
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right, you know, and that's
what used to make it special. And

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obviously it sounds like an old bitter
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special anymore when it's so polished,
so scripted, you have a shit guessed

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on just because they're viral or whatever
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the flash in the pan, I
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Like that's where I first thought you
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up the subject like influencers, you
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they have any foresight? Because some
of them are so young, they just

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have zero foresight. Some may have
big goals like all right, I'm gonna

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do YouTube for three years, then
I'm gonna go to movies or do comedy

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or something that's cool, but most
of them are just a flash in the

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pan man, Like what about liver
King, Like, obviously he's rich as

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shit and so it may not affect
his bottom dollar. But I haven't seen

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much of anything from him since he
was out. He had a year,

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He literally had a year. Yeah, and then I don't even know if

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he creates anymore. Maybe obviously if
you're a fan of him, you would

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know. But and some of it's
that, but going virals like not necessarily

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the answer. No, it doesn't. I mean you and I have both

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been involved in stuff that went very
viral and like you get a little bit

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of a kick out of it,
but not not anything sustainably huge. Yeah,

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I'm kind of glad I never went
actually like viral viral. Yeah,

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like my Power Ranger suit went a
little viral, but like I'd rather have

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the thirty k log daily. Yeah, you know, the sustainability of growth

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and even doing it ten twelve years
is way different than yeah, just popping

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up out of nowhere. That's what
people are trying to do now. But

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then you know, what's your plan. You're just gonna have one supplement code,

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make six figures one year and then
yeah, fuck off, we h

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I could could and should note that
we started our original podcast ten years ago

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last month, right, yeah,
a decade. Yeah, how many podcasts

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were around then and then how many
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yeah, it's just it's literally yeah, it's it's enormous. It's like exponential

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growth in the number of shows since
I don't know, probably seventeen eighteen they

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started really kick in, but it
was you know, it grew a lot

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early on to post post cereal when
when they started being some money involved and

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you know, but even back then, Yeah, the the like raw Talk

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podcast was a small category. I
feel like more of them were kind of

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scripted like that. Yeah, like
what was the uh not Russell Simmons,

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not Bill Simmons, was the aerobics
guy Richardson, Richard Simmons something goddamn Simmons.

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Richard Simmons Like missing podcast was a
similar era. Yeah, and those

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are all like highly scripted, very
good. Uh yeah, they're almost more

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like audio books. But now there's
still some of that going on for sure.

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But like the Raw Talk podcast is
like ninety percent of the meat potatoes

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you see in the world, and
most of it was based around drama.

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Yeah, or they'll take if you're
wanting to get the viral clips, you

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know, you're talking about racism or
stupid shit or too they'll take these TikTokers

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or instagrams who grew there, especially
TikTok because it's easier to grow, and

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then trying to turn them upwards into
a podcast. Uh, and it's just

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dole as shit, just personality lists. Fucking yeah, that's actually such another

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aside. But I mean I dealt
with the I took you know, I

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took a course in editing after I've
been doing this for years, like like

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our first podcast had had you know, over eighteen million downloads before I ever

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actually learned what I was doing.
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are just you know, very driven
by trying to make super clean, uh

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sounding audio and make make the hosts
sound intelligent or whatever when the raw audio

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would tell you no, right,
same a YouTube, but at least the

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difference is like the beauty of YouTube
and podcasts starting and then turning around other

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ways, whether it be mainstream media
or down to TikTok and Instagram, is

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that at least typically not always now, but typically the YouTuber the podcaster are

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the team. They're the creative,
they're the producer, they're the talent,

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they're they're every piece of it.
They're the editor, they're they're the cinematographer,

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they do all of it, they
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when you have even if you're not
the best at all those categories, because

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no one's the best at all of
them, right, normally you lean towards

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an editor, or you lean towards
the talent, or you lean towards the

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idea guy whatever. But then you
can twist that down to TikTok, twist

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that down to Instagram easily, even
up to mainstream media, right because you're

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in mainstream media, you're one piece. You're the writer, you're the producer,

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you're the editor, you're the talent. You don't have to do all

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of them, right where now you're
a TikToker, And yeah, you have

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all those pieces, but it's a
five second clip that you literally are just

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mimicking the other person that did it, So you're you're not really talented.

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They're not really an editor, you're
not really a writer, you're not really

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a producer. To turn that up
into a full length whatever is very very

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difficult. But that's and some of
them get used, which just blows my

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mind. People are just entertained by
anything because it's a TikToker that could shake

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their ass. And then now they're
trying to talk for an hour and it's

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unbearable to me. But not that
my fucking voice is amazing, but yeah,

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like you know, at least I
could talk the uh, the longer

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the TikTok video is the better that
the information better be. Yeah, you

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would hope, Yeah, you'd hope
for me. Some of the issues click

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away. Just some of the issue
is is TikTok's not even about information,

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you know, it's literally about headlines. They we really are in the clickbait

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era. Yeah, because a TikTok
is a clickbait video. That's it.

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There's no substance. It's clickbait.
Stop right, we're YouTube the very least

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YouTube's clickbait substance. Yeah, clickbait. Hit me with something. Yeah,

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And a lot of people in our
space are trying to do informative tiktoks.

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However, how many of those people
are covering topics that haven't been covered before?

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Yeah? A million million times?
Yeah, because because it gets clicks.

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Hey, how to burn fat,
how to get a six pack out

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of Yeah, it sucks, It
sucks. It's part of that is the

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game at this point because there's so
many creators. Yeah, yeah, it

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sucks and fitness doesn't change. We've
talked about a million times, like that's

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why we try to cover documentaries and
other things that interest us, because like

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macronutrient science has been the same for
the last thirty years, you know,

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like with every upgrade and knowledge lifting
has been the same. Like it's all

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been the same. So what are
you gonna cover? What are you gonna

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just beat it to ship? And
it comes down to connection to audience,

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right, you know, like if
you being able to build those connections to

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audience and how you come off.
I don't know if you're familiar with Sean

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Casey. I don't know if I
am. He is. I believe he's

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on TikTok, but he's like he's
I think he's pretty big on Instagram and

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strangely really big on Facebook. No
not a baseball player, No no,

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no, not that one. This
guy, young guy. I think that

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he's from Ireland. I think he's
currently living in Australia. Shawn Casey Fitness,

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yeah he uh. His videos are
almost all nutrition based, like diet

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nutrition stuff, former fat Kid,
former drug addict. His videos, while

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they are edited, are very in
their own way raw, Like he swears

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a lot, mostly at things he's
screwed up as he's talking, and he

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just does demos and all this stuff. He's I don't think he's a million

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something on on on Facebook and instag
Yeah, yeah, and is in very

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is very engaging because he doesn't take
himself seriously at all. He Uh,

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if you take the if you take
like Jordan sayat and do just the nutrition

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stuff, except you throw an accent
on it, and you see him fucking

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up in a way that doesn't I
mean like he edits that in. He

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leaves it in. Yeah, I
don't think he does it on purpose.

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I think he leaves it. I
think and actually, on the flip side,

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I think that Jordan, if you
see him do something like that,

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it's because he planned it, because
he is so just above he's just so

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competent. Yeah, you know,
if you if he wants to show some

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fallibility, he has to kind of
do it on purpose. Yeah. I

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hope he understands what I'm saying here. Yeah, he's he's like a hawk.

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He kind of sees everything below him. But right, yeah, he

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gets it. Yeah, yeah that
this other kid probably doesn't, but yeah,

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no, I think he knows that
it works. Yeah, and Side's

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just trained like he's done it forever, right like us. Yeah. Yeah,

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I've thought about that too, because
I see other people on story and

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some people are just like awkward.
I'm like, oh, they kept that

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to show like who they are.
Like that would be like kind of hard

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for me. Not that I'm not
like mister cool guy or something, but

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like if a camera's on, I
just put it together right, it would

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be hard to be like, oops, I didn't mean to say that.

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I meant to say, yeah,
it would have to be like yeah planned,

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yeah, because I thought about that
too, him, Like damn,

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these people are like they're like bump
into a wall where they're filming and it

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is one genuine I'm like, well, I'm just not going to bump into

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walls, like I'm not gonna You're
gonna be more careful for yeah, just

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not gonna stub my toe like yeah, yeah, I don't know, yeah

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where I don't know. It's a
difference between somebody who doesn't consider themselves being

406
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.799
a performer, just being themselves on
camera, yeah, and somebody who does

407
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.279
consider themselves being a performer, trying
to be you know, run the straight

408
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:19.400
line on camera. But that's you
know, the big I guess, the

409
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:25.200
main difference between main media and supposedly
what we do, although the borders of

410
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:29.359
blurred more is the like authenticity,
right, and that's the beauty of it.

411
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:33.400
That's why I watch some like crazy
degenerate as streams. That's why I'm

412
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.680
on kick dot Calm, no plug, no sponsorship, but like it's actually

413
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.960
just straight raw over there. And
live streaming is still my favorite to consume

414
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:45.799
and probably my favorite to do,
although it's the most difficult because you can't

415
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.519
fuck it up. You know,
there is no right, there's no there's

416
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:55.319
no filter saving you, there's no
nothing going on. I did a poll

417
00:27:55.640 --> 00:28:02.680
this lateral step, but I did
a poll on my Instagram and Twitter about

418
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:07.240
how many creators they think use filters. Oh, and this is what people

419
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.279
think people use filters, right,
So I did like fifteen to thirty percent

420
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:17.960
of people use filters, thirty five
to forty whatever whatever, and strongest votes.

421
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:21.519
Most people thought seventy to ninety percent
of creators use filters, which is

422
00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:25.240
crazy, He's crazy, but it's
probably pretty No I would accurate. I

423
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:26.720
would vote that too. Yeah,
who knows, but I would vote that.

424
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:30.799
And then it's like, so people
know that there's a certain degree of

425
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.799
trickery going on regardless, right,
and they still buy it, which is

426
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.880
good they're aware. Yeah, But
then like, it's not like funny filters.

427
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.160
It's not color grading for beauty and
art. It's not you know,

428
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:47.160
it's not editing to make an emotion
come through with something you're portraying. It's

429
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.640
literally just trying to make you look
better. Yeah, you know what I

430
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:53.359
mean, and I didn't pull that, but but I think we all know

431
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:56.839
what a what we mean by filter
on Instagram, it's just to make you

432
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:02.759
like blemishes go away, teeth look, face look prettier, less wrinkles,

433
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:07.519
nicer hair, you know, more
jacked, like like like literally just superficial

434
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:11.319
shit. Where mainstream media obviously they
do some of that too, because they

435
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.240
use make a like insane stage makeup. But the beauty of editing over there

436
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:21.759
and even YouTube is to like portray
in emotion or portray a story or added.

437
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:26.359
Right, It's like I guess effects
versus filters. Yeah, right,

438
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.400
and one I think is good for
storytelling and emotion driving and connection, and

439
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:34.279
one I think probably has like,
in my opinion, has zero place on

440
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:41.000
our planet. Yeah, filters,
Yeah, Like what's the net positive there?

441
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.559
There's a net positive to the creator
who's selling something. Yeah, but

442
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.519
it's probably not even selling. Maybe
the might not be the money, but

443
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.880
overall it's probably negative, right,
because then you're just like reinforcing that you

444
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.759
need to be fixed to yourself.
Oh, Mike's face can't sell this,

445
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.880
but Mike's filtered face can sell this
for sure. Sure, so bad.

446
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:06.200
But from an influencer standpoint, like
one hundred percent of that is is sales

447
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:08.000
director, right right, because your
likes or whatever. Yeah, I mean

448
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:11.400
you want to make money, sure, I mean it all ultimately comes down

449
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:17.079
to money. Whereas movie or egouse, a lot of people are bad at

450
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:21.160
making money, so they'll just they'll
just do influencing just to just to influence,

451
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:23.680
yeah, to stroke it. Yeah
yeah, Yeah, that's I'm sure,

452
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.799
which is extra wild and probably goes
in my category of yeah we just

453
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.079
don't need either. Yeah. Well, if you think about it when you

454
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:36.119
were when you're a consumer and you're
trying to buy something, what and you

455
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:40.960
have a strong feeling about wanting to
buy that, But you still have some

456
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:48.240
objections. Kind of what you're looking
for is to have your objections addressed upfront.

457
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:56.559
Sure, and like if you're going
to buy, let's say, I

458
00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.359
don't know, I get a ship
ton of of Instagram as for under eye

459
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:04.200
bag stuff for men for whatever reason, I just I don't know, think

460
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.200
I'm old and yeah, have bags
under my eyes and they hacked to whatever.

461
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:17.799
If there isn't a significant difference between
the before and after, or if

462
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:25.400
the the person representing this brand maybe
an actor, maybe an influencer, maybe

463
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.200
maybe the person who founded the company, whatever, whatever, if they don't

464
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:33.119
actually have that like, look they
haven't, if they haven't accomplished that,

465
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.200
look, then I'm not going to
be I'm not going to go forward.

466
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:38.920
Yeah, the wall gets bigger to
purchase, sure, exactly. So it's

467
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.559
like some of that's old school too. Though. I don't have TV here,

468
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:45.240
but in Vegas we have like regular
TV, you know, like the

469
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:49.079
most basic cable. So I was
just clicking around and I don't know if

470
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:52.240
I got up to do something or
whatever. You know, you're in the

471
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:53.839
middle of your ADHD. So I
didn't like choose a channel. But then

472
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.799
the home shopping just ended. There, or I went to fill my water

473
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.720
or some shit, and they're like
showing some kind of skincare. Maybe it's

474
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:06.000
a blotch thing, or maybe it's
a wrinkle thing. I forgot it.

475
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.519
What was avi actually might have been
there, I forgot. But it's an

476
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:14.599
older lady and she's showing like maybe
even her chest or like light cleavage,

477
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.039
you know, and like her skin
difference there, and it's clearly just a

478
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:22.400
filter and light that made her look
tanner, less wrinkly or like shiny.

479
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.160
And you're like, that's clearly like
you just turned up like the Sapia,

480
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:29.519
like fucking crazy. Yeah. Yeah, it's so bad, just old school,

481
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:35.400
shitty marketing techniques, yeah for sure. Like I sort of alluded to

482
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:39.640
this earlier before we got on that
I'm looking at an HVAC system for part

483
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:45.200
of my house and dealing with a
salesman slash design guy or whatever whatever,

484
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:52.599
and like I will freely admit that
what I'm looking for is to not run

485
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:55.519
into roadblocks. Yeah, not run
into things that made me think I can't

486
00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:00.400
do that because because I don't trust, yeah or whatever. But a lot

487
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:06.519
of it is trust, for sure, because every profession and it's just more

488
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:10.359
maybe spoken about now, but like
because there's so many every profession has shitters.

489
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:13.359
Yeah, but back of the day, maybe you wouldn't think that,

490
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:15.839
right, like, oh, yeah's
he's the you know, local neighborhood mechanic.

491
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:19.880
Everyone goes to John. Johnny's great, Like now Johnny fucking sucks.

492
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:23.039
He's just everyone knows Johnny, correct, you know, or like yeah,

493
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:28.119
whatever it is, that's for everything, plumbing, HVAC doctor, Yeah,

494
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:30.119
no, I love my doctor Stacy. Stacey doesn't know shit about being a

495
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.759
doctor, you know, right,
like she's the worst doctor in the world.

496
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:38.119
But everyone she's nice or whatever,
charismatic, Like you can't be successful

497
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:42.960
in sales with that without being able
to connect with people with the RIZ,

498
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.839
right, yeah, yeah, that's
true. You got to be able to

499
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.839
riz everybody. Yeah, gets you
further. Last maybe side note that's popped

500
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.480
in my head with social media and
like main world, so like growing up

501
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:55.839
in the nineties, it really was
not only in the WWE, but I

502
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:59.599
feel like in the world it was
like the Attitude era, you know,

503
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:05.799
like everything's fucking explosions, fucking crazy
shit, and so like Carls Junior commercials,

504
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:10.480
right, it's just like sexy women
muscle cars and barbecue sauce, just

505
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:15.840
rolling all over their naked skin.
Correct. Five years after that that starts

506
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:20.199
to like be super frowned upon and
faux pod and like, oh, we

507
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:22.800
can't sell with sex, Like that's
so bad, Like why are we degrading

508
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:27.920
women? Why are we whatever?
Whatever? Throwing whatever, cause you want

509
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.400
to fight, you throw it there, You throw it at fucking Carls Junior

510
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:32.599
of all people, and a lot
of companies, did it right, Pepsi

511
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.800
probably, Yeah, PEPSI had like
Janet Jackson half naked sell and Pepsi whatever

512
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:38.559
all the same. And and then
five years later, early two thousand,

513
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:40.920
it's like, oh my god,
that was so trashy. You know,

514
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:44.960
let's whatever. And then I don't
know what era we moved into next,

515
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:49.480
doesn't really matter, but you look
now and you start scrolling a little TikTok,

516
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.440
you start scrolling a little Instagram and
whatever. It is male, female,

517
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:58.280
everything fucking in between. Dog the
fucking I don't care what you're selling.

518
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.840
It's a naked person selling it.
Yeah, yeah, Actually there are

519
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:05.920
energy drink your supplements like and obviously
we're in the fitness space, so it's

520
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:08.159
a much louder but you go outside
of that, people are like selling Marryot

521
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:12.719
vacations and they're fucking pokey tits are
in my eyes. Yeah, I'm not

522
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.199
complaining. I would love, you
know, purchase, but I'm just saying,

523
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.760
talk about going full loop and no
one says the thing. Yeah,

524
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:22.320
people in the comments are backing them
up. You look great girl, and

525
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:23.719
I'm fine for that too. I'm
not saying I choose a side here,

526
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.760
but you know, the comments are
like more positive, like you look great,

527
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.679
like flaunt your stuff, like yeah, but then work if you can

528
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:31.519
get it is the way I always
think. Yeah, but then back in

529
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:35.360
the day, we thought they're you
know, trashy whatever, right, and

530
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:37.880
now suddenly it's like, yeah,
now it's self expression and loving your body.

531
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:44.480
Yeah. There's this show on Netflix
and I think it's from the from

532
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.880
the UK, and I'm probably gonna
get the name wrong. I think it's

533
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:51.199
called Naked Attraction. I think I
scrolled that. I don't think I watched

534
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:55.320
it. And the deal is that
like there there's a person who's the contestant,

535
00:35:55.400 --> 00:36:01.199
and then there's the the person that
they're they're viewing and like you see

536
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:05.159
a little bit of their naked body. At a time. I think it

537
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:09.000
is like totally straight up naked.
Yeah it's not me. I don't know

538
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:15.239
that we could do that here for
sure or not. What's the fucking Jubilee?

539
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:21.400
Is that the YouTube channel Jubilee shout
out to YouTube bro og. YouTubers

540
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.800
are the best at ever done.
Like they're the most creative motherfuckers on the

541
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:28.840
planet. I think they're friends with
Barton them, but they're a giant YouTube.

542
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:30.400
Have you seen it now? Oh, you'd love Jubilee right up your

543
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:36.199
alley. So they do a bunch
of stuff, multiple stuff, right,

544
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:39.800
They from from politics to like abortion
type stuff all the way to like sex

545
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:44.719
sells type stuff. And they'll do
all these little like mini game shows or

546
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.320
roundabouts about it. So I'll give
you an example of maybe I think it's

547
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:52.360
still Jubilee of like a political one. They'll they'll bring in like three self

548
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:58.039
identified liberals, three self identified conservatives
or whatever, male female, different races,

549
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:00.320
all of them. They'll put them
like in the back. Then there's

550
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.679
like three or six stools up front, and they'll do something like ask a

551
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:07.079
question like, uh, all right, like is the baby alive at five

552
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:08.760
months? I'm making all this shit
up but is the or the fetus you

553
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:13.960
know, conscious or sension or whatever, and then everyone will raise their hands

554
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.000
who believes it? And normally it's
kind of mixed, you know, because

555
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:20.280
they'll choose a question that walks that
line, like the months or whatever.

556
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.599
Then they'll come forward and have a
discussion. If you didn't raise your hand,

557
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:23.360
you have to sit in the back. You don't really get part of

558
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:27.639
the discussion. So they do that
like politically, which gets really interesting because

559
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.280
you'll get some people that are,
you know, more gray than you would

560
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:35.000
expect. Right, you'll see kind
of the spectrum of the thoughts on it.

561
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.199
Then they'll do other ones, like
they'll do just like eight dudes,

562
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:42.400
regular ask dudes, and they'll be
like, uh, ask a bunch of

563
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.440
questions. They'll line them up like
all right, like rank yourselves on who's

564
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:49.039
got the biggest cock here, and
they'll just just by looking at each other

565
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.519
or asking a few conversations like what
do you do for work? Or like

566
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:53.000
are you married? Or like whatever, then they'll start to like, ah,

567
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:55.280
he's probably got a huge hog.
He'll go over here, and they'll

568
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:59.440
they'll fucking like they'll like distribute it. That's amazing, Yeah, and then

569
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:00.719
at the end of the sho show, and they'll do a couple of rounds

570
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:04.639
of that, like all right,
like who's the hardest or who's the biggest

571
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.639
soft and who's the biggest hard and
like all these you know, little semantics

572
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:09.119
and line your shit, yeah,
and then who's got the you know,

573
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:12.760
who's fuck the most women and all
that, and then at the end they'll

574
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.000
kind of display it and line it
up. But they do like a dating

575
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:19.239
one, I think more like that
naked one, but it's with outfits,

576
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:22.840
so you're like judging based on their
shoes first, and then you like have

577
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:24.920
six girls and you'll eliminate them,
like I just don't like her kicks,

578
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:28.719
and then it'll be like pants or
whatever, and you have to like choose

579
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.719
a date purely based on outfit.
And then the I guess the physique you

580
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:36.079
would see as they and very end, you know, just maybe the eyes

581
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:38.159
are covered and there's two women you
gotta choose one, but kind of similar

582
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:43.760
thing and it's so organic, unscripted, regular folks. It feels like they

583
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:47.599
just grab them off a Hollywood boulevard
type shit. Wow, And and what's

584
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:51.599
another one? But that could be
really ego challenging. They did another one

585
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:53.000
with oh yeah, tons of it, but it's so it's so good,

586
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:55.719
and they come up with different categories. They had, you know, like

587
00:38:55.840 --> 00:39:04.119
six well breasted women come in and
then they like had to find out which

588
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.639
one there's only one of them that
had fake breasts and the rest are natural.

589
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:09.800
So all the girls are like testing
each other, like all right,

590
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:14.760
do some fucking jumpin' jacks or like
do whatever, and they're all like kind

591
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:16.920
of like testing it out, and
then they have to like vote one of

592
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:22.159
them out until they hopefully come to
an agreement on who's got the fake tits.

593
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:25.320
This is on aside, We've been
doing a lot of digressions today.

594
00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:34.920
So the like slang name for for
breasts that you prefer, like boobs,

595
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.239
tits, titties. I wanted to
do this with Bart. Titties spelled wrong.

596
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:44.679
I like tatters, tatters, tatas, tatters, tatas eaters. Yeah,

597
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:49.079
knockers, mommy milkers, there's tons. Knockers is a nice old one,

598
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.280
they said, like sixties seventies,
mommy milkers is good, really good.

599
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:55.199
It'll throw some people off. I
wanted to do a draft with Bart.

600
00:39:55.199 --> 00:40:00.400
People draft like different names so we
do like the top three name for

601
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:05.639
women's breasts. Yeah, yeah,
so good knockers eaters, ladders, we'll

602
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:08.840
put a pin in that one.
Yeah, Mommy Milkers. Uh, Tatas

603
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:13.199
I feels like is a good balance
of being gross and funny. Yeah,

604
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.639
Like, no one's really going to
be offended by Tatas, Like, Mommy

605
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:17.639
milkers, you could be offended,
I guess. Yeah, milk cannons.

606
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.760
Milk Cannon's pretty good. Puppies,
Yeah, puppies. Puppies old school but

607
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:24.239
really good puppies could probably come back. Yeah, that's kind of cute.

608
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:29.199
You're not really going to be insulted, no, Yeah, yadders, ladies,

609
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:31.880
the ladies, the ladies, Yeah, ladies. That's a self referential,

610
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.360
referential kind of thing typically. Yeah, and the same with cock.

611
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:39.719
Right, there's a million Johnson Dick
s long hog shlort for some guys.

612
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:45.119
Yeah, yeah, sadly, yeah, fucking snake, there's a million of

613
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:50.400
them. Pipe right, the Glizzy
Yeah, that's too close because everyone calls

614
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:54.119
a hot dog a glzzy weirdo.
We have Matt sitting in for Savest today,

615
00:40:54.159 --> 00:41:00.119
Glizzy hog. I don't know.
There's a million cock Dick Penis pp

616
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:07.519
wiener Ah shuns, Yeah, Sawns
Schawans is good. Yes, that one's

617
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:13.960
always Schwartz Schwartz sworts be with you. Yeah, I don't know how I

618
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:17.159
got into that personally. I in
my mind it's boobs. It's always just

619
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:20.960
boobs. Yeah, boobs. Boobies
is kind of good, movies is kind

620
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:22.239
of cute. You can't really be
offended by that either. Yeah, that's

621
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:25.119
boobies. Yeah, all right,
where were we breasts? Oh? Okay,

622
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:29.519
game shows, uh, jubilee them. I don't know them, but

623
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:34.760
they fucking crush it like them,
like they could. ABC could literally hire

624
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.840
them and they would put them in
like a ship show where where they do

625
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:40.840
their current thing. They're not on
camera, they're all off camera. So

626
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:45.679
they're writers, producers, editors,
philographers and geniuses with these concepts. But

627
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:50.280
ABC's probably try to buy them like
they're huge. I'm sure someone's tried to

628
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:53.000
buy their ship at some point,
and but they know that they're gonna get

629
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:57.280
morphed into whatever and not be able
to do good stuff anymore. What they

630
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.800
do ye, so like it's pointless. So then now TV ratings are probably

631
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.679
way down because TV shit, you
know, like regular TV shows there's nothing

632
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:07.800
again in Vegas. I got regular
TV now and turn on ABC. It's

633
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:09.920
just fucking Wheel of Fortune and family
feud all day. Well it is right

634
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:13.239
now, but you know what I
mean too, But you know what I

635
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:15.199
mean, like there's nothing to watch. And even before that, I feel

636
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:19.360
like in the less five years,
like the big shows that are good are

637
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.719
movies. Game of Thrones, right, Like those are movies. They're not

638
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:25.199
even TV shows. It's hard to
call Game of Thrones a TV series.

639
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:29.719
Yeah, it's it's a bunch of
movies. Yeah, it's an epic fucking

640
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:34.239
thing. Yeah, or any of
them Ozark's Stranger things like those are fucking

641
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:38.280
epic pieces of art. They're not
a TV show. Yeah. That Actually

642
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:44.119
it leads us into another side,
having to do with Marvel. Yeah,

643
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:50.960
because some of the like the Netflix
Marvel stuff from from Marvel Studios and not

644
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:55.519
not when they were under Fox and
before they got under Disney, especially the

645
00:42:55.599 --> 00:43:00.440
first one or two seasons of those
shows were really really good and they did

646
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:07.039
not try very hard to connect to
the main Yeah, the timeline. They

647
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.840
did their own thing, and so
they were interesting on their own. The

648
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:15.280
current shows, well, even low
Key Season one was was its own thing

649
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:20.119
until the last episode. I'll try
to tie in. What's the now,

650
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:22.840
They're all like trying to tie in, and it's it's because it's just a

651
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:27.960
money grab. What's the I only
watched one of those old ones. It's

652
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:35.440
like the Black Dude from Brooklyn.
Oh, oh my god, Luke Cage.

653
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:37.239
Luke Cage. I watched Luke Cage. That was good. The first

654
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:44.119
Daredvil. I might have watched the
first just great, but like Luke Cage.

655
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:46.360
Yeah, Like it's not overly produced. It's not yeah, trying to

656
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:49.559
be something that's not. It's kind
of basic, but it's like kind of

657
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:51.760
it's like good. It's not the
best thing I've ever watched, but it's

658
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:54.960
good. They just shot half a
season, like nine episodes of a Daredevil

659
00:43:55.000 --> 00:44:00.760
reblue boot for Disney and they stopped
because they the higher ups did not like

660
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:06.000
what they saw at all. They
fired everybody on the production side, and

661
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:09.159
they've got to start over from scratch. They probably put you know, one

662
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:14.519
hundred million bucks into it so far, and like because just they don't know

663
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:16.400
how to do. It really comes
down to that movies versus TV thing.

664
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:23.400
Make good TV isn't movies, right, Yeah, it's a show, and

665
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:28.840
there's like like leagues of it all. Like there's TV shows like Fresh Prints,

666
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:30.360
Like yeah, it's gone down historically, but like that was just like

667
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:36.639
a culture level B movie or a
show. But we need those not everyone

668
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:39.400
has to be Game of Thrones and
Ozark and Breaking Bad and like not everything

669
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:43.599
has to shoot here, Like we
need different levels. And that's where now

670
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:46.719
instead of TV, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube podcasts have filled those gaps.

671
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:50.559
But like TV needs to make like, hey, we're not gonna make like

672
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:52.440
and that's what Marvel, I think's
trying to do. Every series they're trying

673
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:55.039
to make the next Mandalorian, they're
trying to make the next and then they

674
00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:59.639
just come off like trash. You
know, like they've made a hundred of

675
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:01.360
them in the last three years,
and like two of them are okay.

676
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:06.920
You know, like I try to
watch Marvel, Miss Marvel whatever that trash.

677
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:09.159
I try to watch fucking Shee Hulk
eh. You know, like there's

678
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:14.559
so many misses because they're trying to
do these epic they're trying to tie it

679
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:16.679
into the Avengers. They're trying to
make the next Avengers a TV show rather

680
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:21.000
than just like make an okay TV
show. It doesn't have to be a

681
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:23.199
plus. No, you can.
You can cut the budget down if you

682
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:27.599
if you Luke Cage, if you
scale down, make a couple more Luke

683
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.199
Cages. Yeah. Luck Cage was
good. It was good. Again,

684
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:31.000
it wasn't great, but you don't
need anything to be great. It was

685
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:35.639
like good. Uh. Season one
of Jessica Jones was maybe one of the

686
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.440
most intense psychological thriller TV shows ever. I don't know if I Oh my

687
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:42.039
god, I don't know why.
Maybe I didn't have HBO or whatever the

688
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:44.519
fuck it was on back then.
Netflix. Netflix, Yeah, it's Netflix.

689
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.079
Yeah. I think I watched Luke
Cage and maybe one Daredevil. Yeah,

690
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:51.280
because all the movies are decent.
I know the big Marvel's ones coming

691
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:54.840
out next week or soon. It'll
probably be bad. Sadly miss Marvel,

692
00:45:55.280 --> 00:46:00.639
the Marvel Marvel Yeah, the Marvels. Yeah. I don't think it looks

693
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:04.199
good for that at all. I
know, I wish so love ma Uh.

694
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:07.199
The last good one was uh,
Guardian's Galaxy five four three two one

695
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:09.880
three, I was good. Yeah, it was good. It wasn't great,

696
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:13.239
but it was good. But you
know, again, we don't need

697
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:16.360
the next fucking world movie, Like, we just need a good movies,

698
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:21.119
right, we don't need great movies
all. I think that that endgame maybe

699
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:22.679
just kind of killed it for everybody. Yeah, that's what I mean,

700
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:27.280
because they lost their biggest stars.
Yep, they built it all up,

701
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:31.679
they went crazy budget crazy. But
yeah, Gardians Alexy was good. They

702
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:36.639
should just have ended things with maybe
that we gave it five years and then

703
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:37.719
come back. But then part of
it is they tried, right, they

704
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:42.039
like ended a chapter and went to
this brand new chapter and then but nobody

705
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.320
cares about those charactercause there were a
bunch of seless superheroes. Exactly where's fucking

706
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:46.599
Spider Man when you need his ass? That one was good. The Newest

707
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:50.480
Spider Man is good all yeah,
all the time a Spider Mans. Even

708
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:52.400
the cartoon I just watched on the
airplane. Oh, really pretty good.

709
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:55.840
I haven't seen that at all.
Pretty good and some of those are solid

710
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:59.440
actually, and more under it it. Mario movie is pretty good. Yeah,

711
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:01.199
and I got like some hype.
It's not great. It's good,

712
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:06.000
but we again, we just not
every movie could be great, especially how

713
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:07.760
we're whipping them out. There's whipping
out like shit. Go watch YouTube,

714
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.440
dude, Go support the creators,
Go follow a little YouTube, Go find

715
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:14.039
a little YouTube channel, subscribe,
leave a comment, help them out,

716
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.920
or this one. You can subscribe
to this one. So kind of going

717
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:22.400
back to the basic basic premise here, who do we think who is an

718
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:29.360
influencer in our space has any shot
of and not that not whether they would

719
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:31.079
do it or not, whether they
have a shot. I mean, like

720
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:36.960
obviously I'm biased, but like Omar
esof had a pretty good collab with History

721
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:39.239
Channel, like that's kind of the
niche, and I think they gave him

722
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:43.679
some decent rights in the creativity,
so it obviously turned out great. You

723
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:45.599
know, it's a good measure like
history and strength, and that's right up

724
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:50.320
his alley. People know now and
maybe they knew from Rascals a parel company,

725
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.639
But like Omar is incredibly intelligent,
so to like rap history and strength

726
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:58.480
and a perfect guy someone like Bart
you know, would obviously I think transfer

727
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:01.599
so well, he has acting,
legitimate acting skills, legitimate comedy skills,

728
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:05.239
and then he has a wealth and
knowledge from business, fitness, whatever,

729
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:08.800
so he could kind of mix those
worlds. I don't know, you know,

730
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:13.079
I think there's always like space.
But yeah, it's hard to tell

731
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:15.840
if I don't know him personally because, like we said, so many people

732
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:20.719
over edit their shit too. Some
of them have no skills and no personality

733
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.400
or like acting game. Are you
thinking of one person in particular, because

734
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:25.840
I am. No, I'm literally
thinking of like ninety percent of them.

735
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:30.719
Well that too. Yeah, I'm
literally the most prominent of them, And

736
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:34.599
I don't really know because I literally
am thinking about ninety because I filmed with

737
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:37.679
all of them, and some of
them are great people, nice people,

738
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:40.440
but like you turn on camera on
in like a sketch comedy or something,

739
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:44.440
or something like JK News or a
podcast of this style, and they just

740
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:46.920
don't really have anything original to bring. They'll bring up drama, which is

741
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:52.760
like easy content. Yeah, and
some of them have kind of have done

742
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:55.800
it a little bit like brick Ends
would be maybe somebody that was, but

743
00:48:55.880 --> 00:49:00.000
she didn't really have a lot of
speaking role in the yea. Yeah,

744
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:04.360
peer looks in the background of a
Wonder movie or other people have you know,

745
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.199
even Charity Wit and some of our
friends have been on like reality TV

746
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:09.440
shows as like competitors, right,
but that's not like really acting the same

747
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:12.440
thing. Yeah, it's not really
a crossover because she doesn't get to be

748
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:15.599
herself. She's just competing in a
sport and that's nothing on her. That's

749
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.440
just the situation she ended up in
her A lot a lot of the crossfitters

750
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:24.039
that ended up in Stone Colds broken
ranch competitions, like yeah, you're not

751
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:29.519
really like your face is on the
big screen, but you're just doing CrossFit.

752
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.039
You're not like acting or creating content
with Stone Cold per se. Right.

753
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.679
Yeah. I think Bradley's been in
some movies. I think you know,

754
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:42.719
Foosie Tube in that world, King
Batch, like those guys ended up

755
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:46.639
in like media movies and shit like
that because of the Hollywood connection, Hollywood

756
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:53.719
Atlantic connection. Yeah yeah, yeah, but I don't know anyone else that's

757
00:49:53.760 --> 00:50:00.320
really dove in there. Oh Thor. Thor's probably the biggest crossroad probably so

758
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:05.159
yeah, but he wasn't really an
influencer before now, but he was an

759
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:09.360
athlete yeah yeah, yeah, the
influencer now. Yeah, Thor is probably

760
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:14.280
the best, yeah, because it
wasn't like a content creator. Yeah,

761
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:16.519
he was an athlete turned but even
that's pretty big. Like if you think

762
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:22.400
of like the Shaquille O'Neills, like
mainstream athletes that have done like movies of

763
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:25.760
that scale. There's probably none.
Karam adul Jabbar he's probably the only one.

764
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:31.760
I actually just listened to the the
book about the making of airplanes,

765
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:34.760
so made me think of it.
Yeah, surely you must be joking,

766
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:37.400
is what it's called. Uh.
And Kareem is in it right in the

767
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:40.199
book. He's in the book and
the movie, and it just there's a

768
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:44.840
whole there's a whole chapter on Kareem. Yeah, about how they how they

769
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:49.599
had to deal with him. Yeah, like getting him into that movie pretty

770
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:52.039
fucking and obviously Michael Jordan, like
Space Jam, that's all a little bit

771
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:57.679
different. But you know, because
he's playing himself. The A lot of

772
00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:02.199
people don't know that Airplane is based
on another movie. It's essentially a remake

773
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.039
of a movie called Zero Hour,
And in the original one of the pilots

774
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:13.920
was a former football player, former
professional football player, and his acting was

775
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:22.239
apparently awful, and so having Kareem
in was a parody of bringing bringing athletes

776
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:30.199
into mainstream movies. Well, he
they used him to be somewhat shitty on

777
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:32.159
purpose and and very out of place. That was the thing. It's like

778
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:36.679
you said, well that's Korea eight
fall pilot. Wasn't he the pilot or

779
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:40.000
some shit? He was the co
pilot? Yeah, and he uh uh

780
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:45.719
apparently had to make a lot of
adjustments to the cockpit for him to get

781
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:47.880
into. He's like seven to two. Yeah, he's just just enormous,

782
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:52.320
enormous, and then he's so recognizable
and then he's he's at that time,

783
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.960
yeah, and he's now yeah,
he's saying that he's no, I'm not

784
00:51:55.119 --> 00:52:00.480
and then and then the kid finally
gets through and sort of break down the

785
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:05.679
barrier and he starts. You know, my dad says, yeah, yeah,

786
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:07.280
I think that's that's it. There
hasn't been a lot of transfer,

787
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:13.280
actually, probably less than you'd expect
from the YouTube mainstream world. Yeah,

788
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:15.719
some of the there was a big
push with some of the homies that got

789
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:22.599
into it's the gaming channel G four
G G G four G four. They

790
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:24.119
had like a recent show, but
the channel kind of died and that was

791
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:29.440
a real TV channel and they grabbed
a bunch of like streamer YouTube homies to

792
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:34.840
be on that. My homie Gino
was on that. Uh but again it's

793
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:38.280
like talk show kind of reality TV, so they're kind of playing themselves.

794
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:42.960
So if you're talking like real acting, yeah, thor wins. I could

795
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.079
see our friend Jen weederstream in like
a screwball comedy kind of. Yeah.

796
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:51.320
Jen obviously has been all over TV. Yeah, because then yeah, like

797
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:53.960
what does yet? Obviously that's very
mainstream media, right like Biggest Losers,

798
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:58.840
Huge, American Gladiators huge. But
then yeah, if you're talking about like

799
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:02.960
acting or what you're doing there,
yeah, she's been all over it.

800
00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:07.920
I'm trying to think the Rock right, like he's kind of gone back and

801
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:10.679
forth. Wwe is obviously very mainstream, but then he kind of had like

802
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:14.079
a phase where he's just doing shitty
movies. You're just more of like an

803
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:17.719
influencer, and then he's doing Yeah, I guess all his movies are yeah,

804
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:22.639
huh, Terry Crews kind of a
back and forth guy, but a

805
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.079
lot of them are. I guess
our athletes too, right, if it

806
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:29.559
depends when you want to start their
story correct, right, because the Rock

807
00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:31.280
is a college football player. Terry
Crews I think played in the NFL for

808
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:37.440
a little bit. Yeah, you
know, fake bodybuilder ishy but out of

809
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:39.960
like the new era from twenty ten
till now or something. Not a lot

810
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:44.360
of like done it or done it
well, David, So shout out my

811
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:46.440
boy David. David's got a Netflix
show, you know, and he's got

812
00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:52.119
like a legitimate YouTube show ish,
but he's a food panel judge on a

813
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:54.480
food show, you know, and
obviously did that well. He said they

814
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:57.800
messed up, but they had a
second season, but they like kind of

815
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:00.679
messed up budgets, so it might
not go through, but I think the

816
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:04.519
first season did good enough. You
know, I don't know. And he's

817
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:08.320
obviously just a YouTube comedian at his
roots. It is interesting to see the

818
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:13.079
entire worlds mesh. I went to
a shout of Bobby hundreds and the Hundreds,

819
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:15.119
one of my favorite clothing companies since
like two thousand and four. They

820
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:21.320
throw a giant food festival and Barton
invited me. And to see that world

821
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:25.000
all like kind of calm together is
weird because speaking of Game of Thrones,

822
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:29.320
we're walking around, we meet Bobby, you know, lead designer, one

823
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:34.239
of my favorite designers for literally twenty
years. I've followed his blog before streetwear

824
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:38.079
was a term. This dude's creating
shit and then now there's just like cool

825
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:42.639
food collapse and shit going everywhere.
One of my other favorite comedies called Human

826
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:45.800
Made. It's by negoing like Farrell. Basically they have like a taco pop

827
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:47.079
up and so like there's all these
cool little things. I'm going to dude,

828
00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:50.800
Andy, shout out to Andy.
Andy does a bunch of food pop

829
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:52.920
ups right now. He has like
I think rated the best hamburger in the

830
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:57.400
planet or at least in America.
With Bunbe and Houston. He had a

831
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:00.360
pop up, so we went there. Bun Bee UGK famous appers, so

832
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:04.960
we have like, you know,
this weird underground niche culture of streetwear turned

833
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:08.199
to food turned to wrap the biggest
rap you GK one of the biggest rap

834
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:13.719
groups all the time. And then
you're just stomping around and little things happen

835
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:15.199
here and there where you're looking around
and like that person looks familiar, like

836
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:17.440
oh, I know that person,
and some of them are like designers that

837
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:22.159
I follow and stuff. And then
we're in line to grab this like Boba

838
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:27.360
Pikachu collab thing, which is fucking
sick. And then I hear Geo and

839
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:30.079
she says like Game of Thrones,
and I fucking look over and he's fucking

840
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:35.840
Theo gray Joy or whatever. Oh, just like stomping around. Yeah,

841
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:37.760
yeah, and you're like, what
the hell is he doing here? Like,

842
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:39.639
where's that happened? That's weird.
Yeah, and but he's probably just

843
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:43.920
into clothes and he's into food,
and we are in like the Fairfax area.

844
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:46.199
It was actually in the parking lot
of like CBS out there. Okay,

845
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:51.880
by uh, what's the fucking huge
mall? Uh? I forgot what

846
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:54.159
it's called, but the giant mall
in Fairfax. It's so like it all

847
00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:59.440
makes sense. Yeah, the actors
live closed and now streetwear is not very

848
00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:01.199
niche you know, street where is
high fashion? Street where it's kind of

849
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:06.239
everything, and it's like a term
everyone throws around. But to see all

850
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:09.599
that come together like kind of seamlessly, you would think, yeah, our

851
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:15.159
topic of conversation would be more seamless, but it's not really Actually, sort

852
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:20.559
of the kind of the last piece
here is probably probably the easiest mainstream crossover

853
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:27.440
is for musicians, particularly singers.
Yeah, to they get traction on YouTube

854
00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:34.559
and TikTok and Instagram and then they
but that actually has a long history because

855
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:37.320
that's how on MySpace. Yeah,
justin Bieber's YouTuber. Yeah, even in

856
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:42.000
my space is huge. Yeah,
you're right, And that's slightly different just

857
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:45.159
based on basic concept because they're using
that as a trajectory to share their art.

858
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:47.920
Yeah, and then their art can
go to with big heights, so

859
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:52.880
that's like more seamless. You're right
though, that's a really good example versus

860
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:55.159
like, yeah, and maybe there
are I think there are some what is

861
00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:59.679
it Flight of the Concords, Yeah, Flight of the Concords were they YouTuber's

862
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:02.599
first I believe, or they called
the Neighbors whatever they had like a skit

863
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:07.039
group, and then I think they
ended up writing for SNL yeah, and

864
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:08.440
a number of the things, right, so they had their own shows.

865
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:12.239
So they're probably the best yeah,
right, because I think they're originally just

866
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:15.519
kind of fucked around on YouTube as
some college buddies and like seven oh eight

867
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:19.880
o nine, then I think YouTube
popped off. Then I think they went

868
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.639
SNL in big comedies, So they
might be the best example. I think

869
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:28.079
we might actually have come down to
an insight that I didn't have when we

870
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:31.559
walked into it. It might be
the easiest and maybe best and most advantageous

871
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:38.719
if you're if you're doing the same
thing on social media and as an influencer,

872
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:43.239
that you would want to do in
mainstream, right. But even those

873
00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:45.960
guys, yeah, they were the
editors, writers talent, right, and

874
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:51.800
then they got famous more and mainstream
to just be writers, right, which

875
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:54.679
is even that's where like music's seamless. But I think a lot of the

876
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:59.599
big ones that are steamless are actually
reverse were they coming back right like a

877
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:01.880
raw like a Kevin Hart, like
a Terry Crew. They all go,

878
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:06.800
they made a mainstream somehow, but
still the and and they might say,

879
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:09.800
oh, I'm utilizing social media,
but they're one hundred percent being lifted by

880
00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:14.079
social media, yeah, and some
like that's their lifeline. I think that

881
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:20.599
some of the decisions are being made
by some people in mainstream media are around

882
00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:25.199
what they call like social media QA, like recognizability right in social media it's

883
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:29.480
branding and then and they they but
I guess my point is they would still

884
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:32.159
like downplay it, where like that's
the only reason you're at where you're at

885
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:37.159
right now. The other piece that
I'm thinking about is the control piece.

886
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:40.280
So like if you have control over
what you're doing in the mainstream, like

887
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:45.599
you can maintain the control that you
have in your social media presence in the

888
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:49.599
mainstream, then you're more likely to
be able to do you decide to do

889
00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:51.760
it for sure, and not only
to do it, yeah, not only

890
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:54.280
like creative control, but then the
money part and then the success of it.

891
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:58.800
Yeah, like it really is a
no brainer. It's just about mainstream

892
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:01.280
choosing the right creator to allow them
to do that, because not every creator,

893
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:07.519
again is talented at multiple things.
Some got lucky, some have no

894
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:12.440
talent, and then some are TikToker
shaking ass yeh, ladies and gentlemen.

895
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