Aug. 28, 2024

CrossFit athlete association demands assurances of safety and change

CrossFit athlete association demands assurances of safety and change

Understandably, the fallout from the death of CrossFit Games athlete Lazar Đukić is far from over. We discuss some posts and articles about the private meetings held at the Games concerning whether to continue and the demands made by the Professional...

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Understandably, the fallout from the death of CrossFit Games athlete Lazar Đukić is far from over. We discuss some posts and articles about the private meetings held at the Games concerning whether to continue and the demands made by the Professional Fitness Athletes Association in the days after the Games.

Is there a difference between fault and responsibility? Should athletes be more proactive in understanding the risks? Is the element of “surprise” in CrossFit events an essential part of the competition, or does it bring too much risk into the equation?

We also get into a little retrospective of John Cena’s career.

Listener resources:
https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a61924568/brent-fikowski-crossfit-pfaa-statement/ https://barbend.com/decision-to-continue-the-2024-crossfit-games/

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Yeah, yeah, just roll. Something will happen. Maybe it'll be

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an Earthquaker. So we've had plenty of that lately. Oran Wren,

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all right, welcome, y'all. Yeah, don't what you got, dude,

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you got anything? I an opener?

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I don't have any opener hen at all.

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Nah.

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They're making a huge deal of this. Uh, the UFC,

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I think's popularities. I don't know the data, but I'm

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sure it's gone up tremendously in the last ten years.

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But I feel like and maybe because algorithms are getting better,

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So maybe I'm just getting fed my own bullshit more, right,

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But I think the UFC's gone like Berzerko over the

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last like three years. It feels like more celebrities are

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talking about it, more celebrities go to the game or

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the fights. There's obviously more fights. They're building up their

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characters even more. Like some of the like some of

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the top level guys are more diverse in terms of

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where they're from or it used to be very like

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American and Brazilian guys are from everywhere, and then their celebrityhood.

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If you go by like at least stats on Instagram,

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like you'll click any big name fighter and they all

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have like millions now or back in the day there's

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like three, you know, and even them, you know, maybe

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weren't that much. But with that comes more like drama

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and shit, which is all part of the fun right

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of sports at least. Not a huge drama guy, but

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drama in sports. I kind of like. And Morob has

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a big fight. I think it might be in the

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sphere in two weeks.

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Oh that's interesting.

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Yeah, they're doing a fight in the sphere for the

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first time ever and he's fighting. He might be fighting, O'Malley.

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Morob is like one of the main contenders, which we're

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going to dive into later about like kind of leagues

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with prominent owners or like independently run in a sense,

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although they're not businessly like that, but like a Dana

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White or if we're going to dive in more CrossFit chats.

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I'm not a huge union guy always, you know, not

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that dive into politics, but like a player's union makes

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sense in a lot of these cases because they really

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are just you know, fish out of water and a

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lot of these negotiations. And I wasn't aware, but Jim

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told me that a CrossFit has an athlete's Union, and

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I'm still surprised like fighters or the UFC fighters haven't

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done it, especially with some of these fighters that have

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been around for like twelve years. Right, you'd think that's

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how it would start, as they've been through all the bullshit,

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and then they would try to make it better for

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the next generation coming in long story short Morob And

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I don't really know. Maybe it's like his humor or

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he's just like authentic, is some people's argument to him.

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But he got cut open in training over the eyelid,

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which you know isn't career changing, but it is fight

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changing in the sense that it's a hard place the heel,

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and it bleeds a lot. Yeah, And he's posting about

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it on Instagram, and Dana White just goes on a

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tear about how dumb it is. And I understand from

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both sides how dumb it is when you're showing your opponent,

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you know, a weakness in a sense you split him

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there and the doctor could call the fight right away

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and you just lose just because you're bleeding.

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Whether you're just it becomes a you know, the target.

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Yeah, And he's like laughing about it and whatever, And

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I don't know. I do like the drama because I

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think it was literally at the jiu jitsu tournament this

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weekend at the Craig Invitational, some dude was yapping in

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the crowd some like very small man and Rob is

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not huge, right, it's a smaller weight class. But he's

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like top of the lower bowl yap in, and Morob's

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bottom bowl jumps. A safety gate runs up on the

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guy and the guy's you know, like literally it hasn't

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been memed as hard as it should, but he's like

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in complete fear that he's about to die.

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Uh.

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And Rob just like gives him like like uh check,

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let's say, like a a plus noogie, you know, like

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like he grabs his hair a little bit, and like

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he ends up like kind of smirking, smiling, but like

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letting him know, like hey, you little fuck. You know,

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like we don't play that. And I'm not exactly where

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Morob's from, but I think he's from a stan Ish

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somewhere over there. Uh And so obviously cultures are different

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language barrier. I'm like, dude, it really is like the

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essence of uh. And I'm not for violence in any sense,

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but I am for like responsibility and some motherfuckers really

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do need to get off the Internet. Like they think

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they can say anything they want. And you're talking to

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one of the top thirty killers on the planet fucking

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thirty yards from you, probably who knows what he exactly said,

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but I'm like, dude, you're a fucking idiot. So that's

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morob in seven days has gotten Even though that didn't

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get that much attention, I thought it would get more

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attention because there was also another big fight between I

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think a PFL fighter and UFC fighter on the strip

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last weekend, but his cut is getting shit tons of attention,

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and probably because it's the big fight coming up in

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the sphere or whatever.

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But you know, it's weird because I think, you know,

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we we we have different algorithms then, because like I

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think of UFC is kind of having peaked and there's

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sort of in a in a downslide.

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I don't know, I would like to look at the data.

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I almost guarantee it's not peaked. Yeah, it's going crazy,

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Like the cost of the sphere. They're having a big

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UFC all around the world. The celebrityhood of all of them,

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if you look on like the sponsor level, they're like

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social media impressions are up for sure. Didn't you say

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they have like a shit and a sponsors on the

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Oh yeah, the amount they used to have like one,

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and now they have like three energy drinks alone. Yeah,

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they're rolling in Dow. It reminds me of like a

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old school boxing. Yeah, and a lot of people I

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forgot who I was watching an interview, might've been an actor.

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Someone said how they were super into boxing and they

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just like can't watch it anymore. All they watch is

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the UFC. Yeah, because the storylines are better now, you know,

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it's it's a it's a streamlined where boxing is kind

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of like powerlifting. There's many federations and if you want

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like a decent storyline, you have to fallow like a

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like a Jake Paul sadly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, literally, because

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everybody just wants him to get his ass beat. Yeah,

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I'm fighting Tyson again. Yeah, they just did like another conference.

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I feel like it's like on and off.

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Yeah.

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I think Tyson had some health scares or something, but

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I think they just had another conference last week.

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Yeah.

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I don't know the data, but I would I would

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bet money that it's it's up just because Yeah, there's

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so many fighters, and the international game is going crazy.

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The international game at UFC is going crazy. There's fighters

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from everywhere now that are like super relevant. There's champions.

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I mean there's hardly any American champions, which is what

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you want if you want to be a worldwide sport.

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Yeah, yeah, that's for sure.

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They just sold you know, so that could be part

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of it, right. The TKO group, I believe bought all them.

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They bought them and the WWE.

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And yeah, William Morrison never created TKO to hold.

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Yeah, they're combat e sports. Yeah, like combat sports. We

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talked about it last time. Netflix I think making bids

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on NFL and stuff like that. But the big one was, yeah,

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that that Netflix bought. I don't know if a SmackDown

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or Raw, but they bought one of the huge WWE shows,

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which is pretty giant, you know, probably sure not as

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big as it was and you know, Stone Colds era,

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but I mean, you watch one of those wrestlings and

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I haven't in a very long time, but you see

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clips and like the arena still packed. They're still packing

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out twenty k Arenas twice a week all over the nation.

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So there's obviously very avid wrestling fans Jake Paul's or

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Logan Paul's. Yeah, like there's still big celebrity hoods out there.

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Some people say he's actually a really good wrestler, Like

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I knew he was a collegiate or like a high

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school wrestler, but they say, like w w E term.

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I mean, I feel like he's like an actor. Yeah,

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and he's a good athlete. Yeah, he's a good athlete.

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Where like, yeah, that sport in general is kind of

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new too, right, Like I watched, uh was it Ironclad

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the Three Brothers.

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Or whatever it's called Iron Claw Claw?

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Yeah, I watched that on the airplane. Uh. I liked it. Yeah,

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I thought it was a lot. Yeah, that was really

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good too. And I didn't know that story. That was

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much before I stopped started watching. I started watching in

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like probably ninety nine or something.

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I don't know. Yah.

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I had a very short lived WWE fandom, but I

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watched religiously for about five years, kind of the core

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of stone Cold in the Rock, but I didn't really know.

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I know some of the names, Andre, the Giant, whatever

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the fun right. Yeah.

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Yeah, My my experience was when I was a kid,

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and then you know, just for a while there where

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we were going. Yeah, yeah, we were meeting John Cena.

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Yeah, a lot of crossovers. Yeah, even the even the

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new gen Cizarro and some of those guys that are

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still going. Some of the old you know, fitness homies

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became big names, you know, like Bronz Stone and the

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homie Adam. I met him at the Arnold when he

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was trying to be a strong man and then he

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turns into ww champion or some shit, you know. So

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some of that happened by boy Bronson Reed shut up

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the Bronson who's still fighting right now at a high

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level on the WWE. He had a lot of meat

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head crossover.

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I don't know how I think that that Tom Finn

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must have just been too old because.

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Yeah, he also like didn't have his own stick.

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He was doing every everything it came up. Yea, Yeah,

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he was like the Walmart Hull Cogan. Yeah, you know,

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he's like the drunk maybe dollar Store I don't know,

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he's like.

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The drunk hulk Hogan from the Midwest that probably has

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a stick in there somewhere. He was probably too old

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for sure. Even talking to our buddy Luke Haawks, Luke

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said he like had one serious chat about me doing it,

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but I think I was like twenty eight twenty nine.

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He's like, dude, you're like right on the edge. You

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probably could and you'd probably be good. And I thought

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I'd probably be really good too. But at that point

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in my life, I'm like, you do I want to

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be on the road three hundred days a year.

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Like, yeah, I was telling you yesterday. I just listened

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to a whole long interview with with Sina and what

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an interesting cat like I like, I know, I mean,

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obviously men a couple of times know this some of

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the basics of the story, but there's just a lot

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more to it. And like, I think that probably we

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mentioned before that a few years ago he decided he

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was going to learn just uh catnese.

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I think it was a long time ago.

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Yeah, a long time ago went now, I think.

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It was, and I think it was politically forced song

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Vince McMahon.

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But potentially, but I don't know if that ever panned

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out in any way. But now he is learning to

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play a song or group of songs on the piano, know,

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for every movie or TV.

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Project that he does, to be featured in the just

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for shits and gigs.

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Yeah, just just to share with friends. And he doesn't

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read music, so he has to do it all by

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ear and memorize it.

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And then if you're gonna go that form as well,

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learn how to read music.

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I don't know, some of us are not gifted in

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the reading music department. I can read a little bit,

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but not not. And I played an instrument and I

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just was I had to just kind of bounce along

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with it.

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I'm just saying, if you're going to force yourself to

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learn piano, well.

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Spent you spent a lot of time sitting there picking things.

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Out, like yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just saying the efforts

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is the same. It's like, uh, if you're gonna let

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and it does translate to lifting where everyone's like, well,

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I'll learn to lift, and then they like kind of

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learn how to program. Yeah you don't have to be Mozart,

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but just pay attention with your coach is doing and

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you kind of realize it, like reading music isn't super easy,

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but it's not crazy complex, and on piano it's probably

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easier than any other instrument, to be honest. It's just like,

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I don't know, it.

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Was not not a way that I learned so that

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probably didn't help. Yeah.

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Yeah, other instruments get a little weird sometimes. I mean,

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I don't know if I could like straight up read

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a song right now either, except for get all my

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keys and shit. But I took a insane amount of

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fucking music whatever the hell it's called history music, fucking yeah,

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reading music everything my whole life. Yeah, And some people

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were freaks with it, because it really is just math.

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Some people were nutto with it. Some of my friends

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could like transcript shit in their brain and change and

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change the keys and all in their head. I couldn't

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do all that. That's that's where piano is kind of

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easy in a sense where it is kind of later

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your hands, well, when every key is there, yeah, or

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like just right in front of you. It's like a

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visual version of what's going on. If you played the trumpet,

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nearly got three buttons. Now it's a little more complicated

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to get every note.

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And guitar where there's multiple ways to get to the same.

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Yeah, yeah, guitars maybe in the middle of somewhere.

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Sometimes you choose to come a combination of strings and

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friends that get you to a place that you would

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normally go another way. But because your hand is already

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in that position. Then you do this, and you know.

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Yeah, it's just not as visually attached. No piano, it's

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directly attached. String instruments, it's semi attached. Winds instruments get

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real fucking weird. Drums get a little weird, but they're

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a little more basic too, depending mister Sena, I'll say, yeah,

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I saw some movie with him, Schnickty Schnicket or something,

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corny ass comedy. It was actually not bad. Who's the

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redheaded co host with Bobby Lee? Oh the he's a

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comedian obviously, Yeah, I forgot his name, but he's in it,

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Schnickety Simon or something. It's basically just like a shitty

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comedy where these four friends have lied to all their

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wives about having a fifth friend, ye, just to use

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them as an excuse. So like, oh, we gotta go

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visit Tommy, and Tommy's not real because Tommy's graduating with

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his PhD. And then they just take a boy strip

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to go golfing, and basically the lie catches up to them.

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Yeah this one, yeah, Ricketty Stanegy, oh.

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Somewhere stinky, yeah, stinky.

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And so then like they're on some trip and they

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I think they're about to get caught and then they

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have to Johnsen is a drunk in the bar and

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they choose him to be the real friend or some shit.

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It's actually like for a comedy, it wasn't that bad.

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Do they end up just being friends at the end

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of guessing? Yeah, you know it goes Yeah, first they

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hate them, and then the guys go about to like

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fuck it up, and then they become friends and then yeah,

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they kind of end up being on a good note.

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Oh yeah, and Homie looks kind of normal too. Speaking

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of Iron Claw name Zach mister Afron Afron Bro. He

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looked he looked weird. Yeah, he looked interesting. I mean

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even there, he's got a little jaw going on. There's

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something going on with his jaw.

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Some coming along with his whole face. That mustache is

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not working.

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Really, we've seen him in Iron Call right like, he

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looks I didn't see it, actually, do you never seen

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his face?

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And yes, I've seen his face, Yeah for sure, I

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just didn't see the movie. Yeah, he saw the trailer,

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but he.

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Looks like he fucking yeah, they put like a plastic yeah,

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like AI on on. It looks insane.

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Oh my god. I okay, so plastic made me think

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of this thing I read yesterday actually on social media someplace.

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It was a video about particularly guys in prison, particularly

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in an age certain age group like up to you know,

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early thirties, like high teens to early thirties, shaving down

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dominoes and implanting them in their penises for pleasure, pleasure,

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just shove it in their dick hole. No on the outsides,

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like a piercing.

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No, like you're talking about like a white domino, like yeah, but.

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Just a sliver, a sliver, and then you slice the

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skin and it goes inside and then you close it

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up and it's and that's actually like that is not

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a thing that has happened in American culture, but other

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cultures do that with like beads and rocks and whatever.

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Oh, like a piercing, like a decorative.

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Still not a piercing, but like under the skin.

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Yeah yeah yeah yeah, like body whatever.

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Yeah yeah yeah, body mind kind of kind of thing

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like perca. But like then it was like.

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Where the dudes will do the horns and fucking turn

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into a lizard or whatever.

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The ship the guy that was talking about it, it's like, oh, yeah,

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no he worked in the prison. He said, oh yeah,

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he was like in a medical capacity. It's like, yeah, no,

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it's a lot of that.

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It's like, why why I'm in mental health? I guess, right,

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I guess there's just no way. There's no way to do.

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But you know what I mean, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I've been very bored too. But I'm shoving stuff in

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my dick. I mean I would do my ear like

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if they're you know, like I understand some of that, yeah, right,

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Like I would understand like being bored and body mods,

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but I don't ever understanding shoving something in my dick

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no of all places.

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Yeah, it seems like a terrible idea.

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Yeah, why on't you do your ear, your nose, your

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lip whatever. I get all the piercings, like I get

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prison tats, like I understand the game. But I'm never

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shoving plastic in my dick. There's just no.

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Yeah, this uh uh scene. It was talking about this

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Amazon movie thatd with Aquafina called Jackpot. It's not well

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rated five point eight out of ten.

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What was the other movie that just apps? We got bombed?

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Borderlands looked at it. I think it was the lowest

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Sprotten Tomatoes of Fandango of all time. It was like

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a literal zero oh shot. The game is great. I

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love the game, Yeah, everyone does. Yeah, I've never played it.

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But it had a good cast too.

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Right, Yeah, yeah, it's got a at least Kate a

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star of Star.

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Seven Harts directed by Eli Roth.

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When it first dropped, Rotten Tomatoes or what, but it

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was literally fucking like zero. I know when I saw

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the trailer, I didn't really like it the trailer, Yeah,

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because I never played the game, so I was never

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that attached. And they've never really made Halo obviously. And

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I heard the second season was okay, But they came

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out with a bunch of games recently, game movies like

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what was the one last year? Was it? Was it?

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Uh?

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Mark Wahlberg, wasn't it.

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Fuck?

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And then The Spider Man uncharted? Yeah, hearted like they're

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they're they're doing a ton of games right now, but

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I'm yet to hear of one that did well.

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Bobby Lee was in this What the hell the Witcher?

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Oh, I was gonna say, the Witcher. That's the show.

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Rest of Us, the show.

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Lost of Us. People said it was pretty good. Lots

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of Us is good, and people say Witcher is good,

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Jack Black is in this? Is this? They just grabbed everything?

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Is this guy the guy that's that's in the New Reacher?

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That's so enormous no clue? Yep, yep, he.

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Just grabbed the cast from Jumanji.

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Look at the size of this guy. Yeah, he makes

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but I've definitely seen his face. Rich he made. He

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makes makes the guy that plays Reacher look small. When

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you see pictures side by side, I mean seven too,

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and just like all filled out, seven.

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Too is pretty rare.

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That's yeah, that's pretty tall.

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Yeah, I wonder, Yeah, it must have been. There must

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have been the Witcher. Then that's set off this game

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to a movie deal, right, that had to be the

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first very successful one, and then people started going crazy.

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Lost of us are the Zombie one? Yes? I think

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I watched like two episodes. It was good. I think

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it's good. Yeah, it was pretty good. I just didn't. Yeah.

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It's with Homeboy, Yeah, mushroom zombies, the Spanish cat. Oh yeah, yeah,

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what what's that? Whatever? His name is?

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Where are we planking it?

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Yeah? I'm bad with names in general. I can't think

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any of these dudes.

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Why are we? Where are we not remembering his name.

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He's in that movie with.

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I feel like he was in everything for a second.

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Yeah, he's in that movie with Uh, Nicholas Cage replaced

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his biggest fan, Nicholas Cage is playing himself. It's so

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fucking hysterical.

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Nick Cage is a weird ass character. Yes, there's just

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like so many movies that are so good and so

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many movies that are so bad. Kevin Hart's like kind

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of the new fucking Nick Cage. Seems like they just

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don't know how to say no to a script.

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Pedro Pascow the name that we're looking for.

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Bescal Yeah. Yeah, but un Charted I heard it was terrible.

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I didn't play that game either, which interesting is yeah,

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a lot of people don't probably don't play any of

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those games they're trying to hit, Like the Witch is

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pretty nerdy. But I think they have like cold following

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they do Borderlands.

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Oh, when Charted is what's his name?

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Yea spider man.

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We're saying, what's his name? His name? Tom Holland, Tom Holland,

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Mark Wahlberg, Antonio Benderaz. You think, oh, that's a pretty

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good cast, but like if you have a shitty.

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Script, Yeah, yeah, I think it's just the phase of

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video games. I don't know what's next. But the Call

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of Duty win obviously went Borderlands. I mean Call of

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Duty got a chance because you can just make up. Yeah,

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early war, the early campaigns were good.

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And then Mario one made a ship ton of money.

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Mario was terrible. Mario Mario was in terrible. It was

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a cartoon, right, yes, yeah, yeah, I guess Sonic in

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them Pikachu Detective or whatever that would. Those are like

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kids movies versus these are trying to like like an

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actual yeah, like Last of Us in which are kind

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of some adults. Yeah, but Mario was solid. Mario was solid.

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I watched that on airplane too. Mario wasn't bad.

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Yeah, Well, to change gears sort of. I have a

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a rant and that's about and this is this is

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a sequel to a too. I know we've talked about

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this before on the show, when we were having the

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problem here in the gym where our local water utility

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told us that we're using essentially more than a swimming

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pool worth of water in a month, which was not

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why not possible at all? Like we had one toilet

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that was running.

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They're trying to get our dollars.

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Yeah, the one toilet that was running and uh that

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the guy from the city came out and said, yeah,

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that number doesn't make any sense, like that's not even possible. Yeah,

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but did they change it? No? Yeah, me, and it's

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like yeah, well, like he took me out to the

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meter and he said, oh, yeah, leave a faucet on

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so we can see if the meter's running. It's like, yeah, okay,

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the meter is running, but that doesn't mean it's right, right.

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Yeah, how did they just not send a crew to

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check the meter and check their shit?

461
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Yeah? Well, I have the same problem at home now

462
00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:24.960
where I had one drip irrigation thing that popped off, right,

463
00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:30.640
and it runs literally ten minutes a week, and it's

464
00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:32.640
one day a week. It runs for ten minutes.

465
00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:34.000
It's for just plants or whatever.

466
00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:36.880
Yes, And it took me a while to figure out

467
00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:39.799
where it was. And then you know, I felt like

468
00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:42.400
I had, you know, drip things to fix it, and

469
00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:45.079
I couldn't. I couldn't find them. Ended up going to

470
00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:48.319
home depot and fixing them whatever. So it's fixed now.

471
00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:50.160
It's been fixed for over a week and I'm still

472
00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:53.079
getting notifications on a daily basis that that they're that

473
00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:55.640
is leaking, and I look at the actual usage, because

474
00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:58.480
you can see on an our bio basis it says

475
00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:01.240
I'm using sixteen gallons of water at one o'clock in

476
00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:05.839
the morning. Like that's not even possible, that's entirely impossible.

477
00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:09.000
It's like they're they're using some kind of an algorithm

478
00:24:09.559 --> 00:24:12.759
to estimate usage and not actual usage of Why have

479
00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:19.640
a meter if you're not actually going to use the

480
00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:22.200
information that comes off of it in a legitimate way

481
00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:24.279
as opposed to what they're doing. So somebody's supposed to

482
00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:25.359
be coming to take a look at it, and the

483
00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:28.079
guy showed up yesterday, but they don't tell you they're coming,

484
00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:31.440
and my water meter happens to be in the backyard.

485
00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:33.920
Well, how many fucking other people are going through this?

486
00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:35.759
Well that's straight fraud at that point.

487
00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:37.960
Yeah, here's the thing. I want our next door neighbor.

488
00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:40.240
I think that I think it's not us. I think

489
00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:43.319
it's actually the neighbor or they're getting it. They're getting

490
00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:47.599
both meters on one reading or something. But they had

491
00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:49.279
some kind of a problem with their sprinklers where they

492
00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:51.279
were literally just flooding the gutters for a couple of

493
00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:55.440
weeks and they couldn't figure it out. And I think

494
00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:57.720
they may have it under control now, but I'm not sure.

495
00:24:58.720 --> 00:25:02.039
But I'm still getting these notification and so I'm not

496
00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:04.119
happy about this, and it does seem like it does

497
00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:06.519
seem like a ripoff, just like a revenue generation thing.

498
00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:09.000
Yeah, who knows, because I think I think.

499
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:10.799
That we've gotten into the point now where we're actually

500
00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:14.960
paying directly for our water. Sacramento is way behind the curve,

501
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.720
and that we didn't used to have water meters at

502
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:21.519
all because they were outlawed in the city. Yes, so weird.

503
00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:24.599
And now now they went and installed them, but that's

504
00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:27.359
been a good two years, I think. Really yeah, And

505
00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:29.240
so now they're supposed to be charging. So I'm gonna

506
00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:31.920
get this giant bill that I haven't seen yet, and

507
00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:34.319
it's going to be for water that I didn't use.

508
00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:35.559
I don't know what to do about this.

509
00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:39.079
What the fuck is a law who created a lot

510
00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:41.599
of outlaw water meters.

511
00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:44.240
I don't know what happened in I think the fifties.

512
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.480
That seems so weird and stayed on the books for

513
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:50.240
a long long time, and I live in it. You know,

514
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:54.440
an older neighborhood. My neighboroods was built in the late forties,

515
00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:55.200
early fifties.

516
00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:57.799
That's a weird concept. All of it's weird.

517
00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:02.279
Yeah, anyway, I just I mean, I'm not usually one

518
00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:05.400
that looks at conspiracy theories and the government or whatever,

519
00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:09.799
but this seems like a revenue generation conspiracy theory.

520
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:13.759
Yeah, I mean very very least insane negligence. Yeah, they're

521
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:16.000
supposed to be running it. You gotta have your systems

522
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:18.640
in place, and you should have some checkups to make

523
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:19.599
sure it's fucking.

524
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:20.839
It's supposed to.

525
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:24.000
Yeah, because there's no way for us to ever check no, huh,

526
00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:27.119
I could be full trust, Like, there's no way for

527
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:29.599
you to like buy a meter and shove it in

528
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:32.039
the sewer system to check that their shit's accurate.

529
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:36.519
No, no, and yeah, even I mean there's an app

530
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:41.240
and uh so you can look like all the time

531
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.359
and they don't let you put more than one to

532
00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:48.960
count on it if it has more than one email address.

533
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:51.799
So I have the one for the gym on on

534
00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:56.200
the app because we've had a problem and suddenly now

535
00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:57.799
I have to look at up. You know, I can

536
00:26:57.839 --> 00:26:59.480
do it on the computer, I have to, but I

537
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:01.480
have to say stop and think about it, and look,

538
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:03.000
it's like this does make any sense.

539
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:04.759
But even still you have no clue if those are accurate.

540
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:07.720
No, I was clearly not accurate because I'm not using

541
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:09.319
sixteen gallons of water in the middle of the night.

542
00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:10.240
Yeah.

543
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:12.839
I mean, there's literally nothing that could be running at

544
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:16.000
that hour that would that would suck up sixteen gallons.

545
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:19.160
Even if a toilet was leaking, it's not sixteen gallons

546
00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:21.799
in an hour. Yeah, And I don't have a toilet

547
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:25.799
that's leaking, so bastards. Yeah, I'm not happy about this

548
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:32.720
at all, not at all. Well, one other thing is

549
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.160
just a follow up on conversations that we had a

550
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:41.079
couple of weeks ago now about this tragic situation and CrossFit,

551
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:47.480
and it was kind of represented that and I think

552
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:49.640
that we talked about this with Dean that it was

553
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:56.319
kind of represented represented that some high percentage of the

554
00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:02.319
athletes agreed to go ahead with the games after after

555
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:08.200
that death. And uh uh. There's a basically a timeline

556
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:11.920
that was published by bar Bend saying that they had

557
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:17.720
a very difficult time coming to any kind of consensus

558
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:20.440
on this and they ended up doing like essentially like

559
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:21.519
a secret vote.

560
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:23.519
But then like even that, like if you don't have

561
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:28.599
standards in place, like what vote wins just over fifty

562
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:30.960
one percent? Right, you know, like if you haven't set

563
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:37.079
a precedent for how you handle player voting and whatever. Yeah,

564
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:38.920
you're just making literally everything up on the fly.

565
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:42.480
But when we had heard that they divided up into

566
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:46.119
individual men, individual women and the like.

567
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:48.319
Leaking By the way, I don't know if you got

568
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:49.960
anything going on in your DMS.

569
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:53.319
Oh, I don't know. Good question. I can't make this

570
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:59.319
any bigger. Got some addresses or anyway? Uh, you know,

571
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:03.400
I had the low go on this iPad and suddenly

572
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:07.680
it's not there. It was here, you know, two days ago,

573
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:12.839
and it's not there now. Anyway, what was I saying

574
00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:18.079
they had? If I can take it off of that,

575
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:28.759
so that'll help me? Pardon me? Okay, they couldn't, you know,

576
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:30.759
in the in those three groups, we were sort of

577
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:32.960
told that they were those three groups, and then they

578
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:34.960
come came up with some kind of consensus and that

579
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:40.319
did not happen. They ended up actually selecting in five

580
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:45.200
individual women, five individual men, five individual team athletes, and

581
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:49.640
five coaches jact just representative for their groups. To continue

582
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:52.440
the conversation, and they ended up sending out a survey.

583
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:54.640
Like even that's interesting to me because like coaches and

584
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:58.440
CrossFit are like a very unofficial thing. Yeah, you know,

585
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:04.119
it's not like coaches in team sports NBA, MLB or

586
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:08.279
where they're like attached to the league. A coach in

587
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:15.480
CrossFit is like an arbitrary ass assignment by a random athlete. Yeah,

588
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:17.680
you know, so why do they get, say, and who

589
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:20.720
are they? Like a coach in the league's been vetted,

590
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:23.000
you know, in the NBA, NFA, right.

591
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:25.599
Yeah, this is it's a very official position.

592
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:29.240
Yeah, this is literally unattached from CrossFit at all. Yeah,

593
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:31.000
I'm not saying that they shouldn't have a voice, but

594
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:35.440
they should probably be like they have like no responsibility

595
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:37.119
to cross fit. So then why do they get like

596
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:39.559
a choice in CrossFit? The athletes clearly do because they're

597
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:43.240
there competing. Yeah, they've signed something, they've paid something, and

598
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:46.240
they've shown up, they've been invited. But coaches and each

599
00:30:46.319 --> 00:30:48.279
and a lot of guys have like fucking thirty coaches.

600
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.799
Yeah, and it seems to me that that, you know,

601
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.279
whatever they wanted to express, they should be expressing through

602
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:57.079
the athletes. And not directly themselves.

603
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:59.319
Right well, yeah, yeah, I just don't know if they

604
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:01.960
have a say in this right now.

605
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:06.039
Yeah, like a globally, I don't know that they should

606
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:12.359
have a say. They were given three polarizing options, according

607
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:14.799
to this Barben article, carry on with a crossway games

608
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.519
on Friday, cancel the games entirely, or continue with the

609
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.640
games but only as an exhibition. No leader board split

610
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:26.279
the prize money evenly, donating some to the athletes family.

611
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:27.240
That's kind of random.

612
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:33.960
Family. Yeah, these that you can see if you're looking

613
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:36.839
at the video version. This is the people who were chosen.

614
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.319
Not a lot of you know, names that I recognize,

615
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:42.039
but I'm not way on top.

616
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.480
Of them most of those names. But I also wonder

617
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:46.880
how you get to choose those names then, right, like

618
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:48.720
you're trying to whip this thing out and make a

619
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.720
democratic but how do you who are the fuck of

620
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:53.680
these names? I mean, they're obviously popular names because I

621
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:55.839
know I'm like Daniel Brandon's from sac Or. She went

622
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:59.240
to Sex State. Haley Adams was one of the youngest

623
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:02.920
best athletes. She's been around forever. Emily Rolfson, Og Pakowski's

624
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:06.240
and og Cole Saker's and Mega og Pancheck brothers have

625
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:09.000
been in the games for fucking thirty years, like a

626
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:11.039
lot of those are. But then like these coaches, like

627
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:12.720
I said, I've never heard of none of them. And again,

628
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:14.720
I'm not super intuned across it as much as I

629
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:18.920
used to be. But you know, what is it like, Oh, no, Olsen,

630
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:19.440
he's Og.

631
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:21.880
Yeah, no, it's the only name that I really knew

632
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:22.599
off the top of my head.

633
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.839
Yeah. No, I've seen most of these names. But it again,

634
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:29.079
what about the other athletes, they don't get to choose.

635
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:35.559
Well, they they ended up sending out a survey that

636
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:42.559
at seven o'clock, you know, seven pm, and they were

637
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.519
supposed to you know, express themselves, and then these twenty

638
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:49.759
representatives came into a room to continue the conversation about it,

639
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:53.000
and that's how they ended up deciding. At eight thirty

640
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:56.039
the results were in. Castro opens his laptop reports the

641
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:59.240
results of the athletes, coaches and rep seventy eight percent.

642
00:32:59.279 --> 00:32:59.960
Athletes say that.

643
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:04.160
Compete and it could also even be simpler like compete

644
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:05.519
if you want to compete, and leave if you want

645
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:08.559
to leave, Like obviously there's something about unity.

646
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.519
Yeah, and everybody agreeing, but what are the chances of that?

647
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:13.440
And somebo had already left by this point.

648
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:15.880
I think, I'm sure, Yeah, if you're if you're feeling

649
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:17.519
strongly one way or the other, I'm sure you're just

650
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:21.799
gonna act on it. I do not know you.

651
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:25.519
No, I don't know either. But the I think I

652
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:28.759
can't currently find that I wish I could find is

653
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:33.880
a video by a medical professional about what happens if

654
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:38.480
you were already warm, already hot, and you're in the

655
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:41.799
you know, eighty seven degree water, which is what that

656
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:43.279
reservoir was at the time.

657
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.720
Yeah, like a dog that can't sweat.

658
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:49.400
Yeah, essentially, Yeah, like you can't. You're not cooling your body,

659
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:55.599
and your art rate actually goes down and you can't perform,

660
00:33:55.759 --> 00:34:00.640
and there's, you know, great deal of stress on your body,

661
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:06.680
and bad things happen. But I don't know, you know,

662
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:09.280
then the uh, let's see if I can find this

663
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:17.599
without taking this out to the whole world. The Union

664
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.840
of course, now it's gonna exciving me. Not when I

665
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:30.159
wanted the Union came out and said, uh, made a

666
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.639
bunch of demands and I gotta find.

667
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:35.079
It post games post games.

668
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:39.360
Yeah, since since then, part.

669
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.079
Yeah, you don't ever want to like point fingers or blame,

670
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:47.679
but because there is no like one place you can

671
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:50.039
point it. But I would say that the players union

672
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.920
didn't have responsibility to make those demands whenever that player

673
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:56.760
union was formed. Yeah, right, Like everyone could be a

674
00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:00.559
safety haulock post traumatic issue.

675
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:02.360
Yeah, So I like the point.

676
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:05.320
Of being a union is that you stop these things

677
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:06.960
from happening beforehand.

678
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.159
Well, I think too. Then another issue with with union

679
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:13.000
is I don't know that they have a like contract

680
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:17.239
with CrossFit to compete. I mean, most unions that's how

681
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.920
they work, right they but the most athletes unions aren't

682
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:24.760
just a you know, an attempt to have a single voice.

683
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:30.000
They are you know for collective bargaining around how things

684
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:33.480
work right and and those things can be challenging.

685
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:36.280
Yeah. And if, yeah, they don't have a direct contract

686
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:40.719
or relationship with CrossFit, it's half meaningless because the same

687
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.159
idea we've talked about, like the Rogue Invitational is blowing up.

688
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:45.280
Watapalues is always a big event, and I'm sure there's

689
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.000
others that I don't even know about, but there's big

690
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:52.159
functional fitness events that are not CrossFit that would have

691
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:56.760
the exact same issues hypothetically CrossFit games. It's just obviously

692
00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:59.920
the bread and butter, the one that's been around the longest,

693
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.800
had the most money, gets the most pressed because their

694
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:04.800
ESPN contracts or whatever the hell they have.

695
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:11.400
Now and now there is there's an article in Men's

696
00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:18.760
Health by Brett Williams. Actually I'm sorry, as told to

697
00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:24.559
Brett Williams, it's it's from Brent Fakowski who was friends

698
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:29.039
with Lazarre basic competitor, competitor and the it's the the

699
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:33.840
union is called the Professional Fitness Athletes Association. Yeah, it

700
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:36.480
would be interesting advocacy group and not really like a

701
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:37.599
union union. Yeah.

702
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:39.559
So it probably doesn't have a contract with anyone, no,

703
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:41.960
which is like fine, like it's good to have a

704
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:46.920
united voice. But no, I mean all this stuff is

705
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:50.559
just hindsight, you know, after a tragedy or something so extreme,

706
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:53.280
like yeah, it's too late.

707
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:57.840
Yeah. What you're saying is, we demand an appropriate level

708
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:01.719
of transparency between CrossFit and the PFA regarding the third

709
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.519
party investigation as to the death of Blazar and subsequent

710
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:08.840
changes made to protect all athletes going forward. We demand

711
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:12.840
CrossFit create an independent safety team to the LIAIS with

712
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:16.239
the PFAA on an ongoing basis, and we demand that

713
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.559
Dave Castro be removed from the position in the sport team.

714
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:21.800
Yeah, like that demand I think is pretty high if

715
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:24.079
you have no contract with CrossFit, Like.

716
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:25.840
I don't know exactly how they get it. I mean,

717
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:28.679
I don't know how they get get that outcome.

718
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:31.440
Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, you just don't show up

719
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:33.320
to the game, show up. You could do that anyways

720
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:36.760
on an individual level, right, Yeah, being united is good

721
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:39.960
and fine, but again that's all like hindsight stuff, Like

722
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:43.559
it's easy to point the finger after a tragedy if

723
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:48.800
you thought collectively that you're Dave Castro is a safety

724
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:52.440
risk to the sport. Where's that being voiced before?

725
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.559
Yeah? Right, it has been, and we don't just don't know,

726
00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:59.880
but it's not maybe publicly. So publicly, Yeah, for this.

727
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:05.880
Athlete group is actually united with the top athletes. I

728
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:08.440
feel like that I would have seen that that request

729
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:09.360
been made.

730
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:11.719
Yeah, you would think, And maybe it's just because I

731
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:15.079
don't know. There are some statements that he that he's

732
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.360
made along the way that did not help his case

733
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:20.239
in that regard, and one of them being that he

734
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:23.360
did the course but at a different time of day

735
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.760
and the water was so warm that he had to

736
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:30.280
change the way he swam in order to get through

737
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:33.880
it and was gassed by the end. And I mean,

738
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:37.519
he's not as young as these competitors, obviously, but at

739
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.639
the same time, that probably should have been a red flag.

740
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:45.519
And that's probably damning to him for actually coming out

741
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:49.280
and admitting that afterwards. And just I guess, I don't know, Like,

742
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:51.639
I let's put it this way, if I was trying

743
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:54.480
to avoid liability, I wouldn't say that out loud unless

744
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:56.280
I was under oath and forced to, you know, and

745
00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:57.760
even then I might be taking.

746
00:38:57.519 --> 00:38:59.840
The fifth Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess to me,

747
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:01.679
it's just like, what's the core issue? And how do

748
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:04.559
we solve the core issue? Because people are gonna say

749
00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:07.280
a million things again after the thing. And if I'm

750
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:10.639
an athlete and I truly believe that Cross is dangerous

751
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:13.800
or Dave Castro is dangerous, you know what I mean? Like,

752
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.639
it's easy to stand on a moral ground when you

753
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:19.559
know you're right now, right, yeah, because history showed it.

754
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:21.360
But where was that fight before?

755
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:21.800
Yeah?

756
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:23.800
And again I'm not trying to point fingers at anyone,

757
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:27.280
but the athletes in this case sound just as responsible

758
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:29.679
as everybody else because to me, you see at least

759
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.400
on Instagram, and again this is a broad stroke, but

760
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:35.119
you see them hanging out in friends with Castro and

761
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.280
then something bad happens. Now you're throwing the bird at him,

762
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.320
blaming him. And I'm not defending Castro by any means.

763
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:44.559
I'm just saying that if you see right like, that's

764
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:45.760
just not right.

765
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:48.920
To me, it does seem like there's maybe.

766
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:50.000
It's like virtue signally.

767
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.039
Yeah, a lot of blame to go around, But I

768
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:53.519
think that part of the reason that there's so much

769
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:54.920
blame to go around, and part of the reason that

770
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:59.440
athletes didn't did not bow out, is that crossfits kind

771
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:01.559
of torture porn in a way.

772
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:04.400
For sure. It's yeah, I think it was a talent porn.

773
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:06.119
I don't know how to Yeah, I think it was.

774
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:09.480
What buddy Zach Talander made a comment. I forgot who

775
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:13.039
he's talking to, but he was talking to someone maybe

776
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:16.920
just outside of CrossFit, and Zach's pretty tapped in for years.

777
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:21.039
Zack's actually kind of tapped in across fit almost in

778
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:22.840
a way like I feel like I am where he's

779
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.079
a waylifter but he just so much crossover in the

780
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:28.000
early days because he's done it so long. And the

781
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:31.239
torture porn comment is kind of what his his general

782
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:33.039
statement was on it was that, and I don't want

783
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:35.119
to misquote you, Zach, my bad buddy, but I'm pretty

784
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:37.400
sure what he was getting at is that these guys

785
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:39.679
are a little crazy in the head and they've been

786
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:43.599
trained mentally that pain is good because that's how you win, right,

787
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.119
Same with a marathon runner, Same with any kind of

788
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:49.440
long distance tortures thing that you find a burn and

789
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:51.360
then you're gonna have to stick at that burn if

790
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:53.920
you want to win the event. And that's every workout

791
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.480
to some extent, right like powerlifting, similar you have to

792
00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:59.719
practice singles because you know at you know, midway through

793
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:01.280
that let it's going to feel like you can't do it,

794
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:03.320
and you have to hype yourself up to continue to push,

795
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:05.760
and then you push through it. There's just happened to

796
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:10.000
be in varying durations. But he was basically saying, like,

797
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:12.079
you're taking twenty of the best athletes that have been

798
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:15.239
taught to push harder and when it hurts, push even harder.

799
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:17.679
Of course, something's going to happen, you know, and that

800
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:20.360
happens in other sports. Boxing people have died, et cetera,

801
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:23.519
et cetera. Because we're looking at the extremes and that's

802
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:26.119
where the hindsight thing just becomes weird to me, Like, yeah,

803
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:29.119
it's easy to point fingers after the case, but who

804
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:32.079
was making these statements before? If you just really felt this.

805
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:34.079
Way, well it put it in power leting terms. Say

806
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.599
you're going to do a meet, and you got to

807
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:40.599
the meet and it was supposed to be it was

808
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:43.159
supposed to be air conditioned, and it was one hundred

809
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.480
and fifty degrees outside, so it's an Arizona. Let's say

810
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:52.239
it's air in Arizona, and then the the air conditioning

811
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:57.000
is broken and it is over one hundred degrees indoors. Yeah,

812
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:01.000
do you decide to go and compete or not?

813
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.519
I'll probably compete and then I take responsibility right again. Yeah,

814
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:07.840
if someone dies at that meat, everyone's gonna be pointing

815
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:09.920
fingers after it, right, But no one, no one during

816
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:12.639
that meat is gonna stop it. Yeah, PROBA or spotters

817
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:14.760
and loaders. Powerlifting is a good reference point, Like you

818
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.239
show up and your spotters and loaders look like they

819
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:19.679
never spotted and loaded again, how many people are not

820
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:21.920
going to compete. They're all going to compete.

821
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:23.840
Because they already paid their money and they're already.

822
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:26.119
Yeah, and you're not like judging it as an athlete.

823
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:28.480
You're not going in and like can that guy catch

824
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:30.880
my squad? No one's ever looked at that, like when

825
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.119
I've done yourself. Yeah, when I'm training, I'll grab my

826
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:34.960
homies that I trust because I know, you know, But

827
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:37.400
like at a meat, you just trust that it's set

828
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:40.800
up correctly. Yeah, and that is obviously the core issue

829
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:42.960
is a crossfitter should also go to the games and

830
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.960
just assume that it's set up correctly exactly.

831
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:47.960
You assume it's set up correctly for sure.

832
00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:51.559
But there's also freak shit like even if a powerlifting

833
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.400
meat has the best spotters and loaders, shit happens. They

834
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:56.760
could slip and I could get crumbled. I mean, you know,

835
00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.760
we've talked about Brandon Lily's injury being one of the

836
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:04.480
crazy these visually and probably physically obviously not death, but

837
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:08.400
literally got one of the strongest humans on the planet

838
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:11.360
and absolutely sandwiched Like do you blame the spotters and

839
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:13.679
loaders or do you blame freak shit.

840
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:16.039
Yeah, people want to blame the spotters and loaders, but

841
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:18.880
I'm remembering that video. I don't know how they could

842
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:19.760
have caught it right.

843
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:23.199
The freak shit happens. Freak shit happens. And I'm not

844
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:26.239
saying that this that you shouldn't take as much preventative

845
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:29.639
measures as you can. Yeah, and but if you're also competing,

846
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:30.880
if you're living life.

847
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:33.320
Yeah, I could look it up at the Mark Bartley

848
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:36.599
video that I shot from you know, a long long

849
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:40.639
time ago. He fell, but he didn't take the bar

850
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:45.199
with him like you know. He he fell forward, you know,

851
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:48.519
out of the monolift because he tore his squad and

852
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:53.119
or hamstring quad, I don't know, so he got a

853
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:56.280
bad tear. He couldn't walk afterwards. He made it. He

854
00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:58.239
paid some terrible sounds. I think they may have had

855
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:02.599
to cut the squat suit off of him because like

856
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:06.840
immediate swelling and all that, it's a real nightmare. But

857
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:08.559
he didn't even follow with the bar. There was nothing

858
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:10.119
that spotters could have done, and that was in the

859
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:14.320
pre like chains or straps or whatever. On the monolift era.

860
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:17.840
I will say during that era, it was very common

861
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:22.000
if you were going to a meet, you would recruit

862
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.719
as many of your your teammates to be going at

863
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:26.559
the same time, and they would might be the ones

864
00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:30.840
that stepped in to spot. And in those federations it

865
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:34.679
was a lot easier for that to happen, whereas it's

866
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:36.079
not really allowed anymore.

867
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:37.960
Right, but then they do, you know, it has evolved

868
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.159
a little bit. They have spotting and loading crews that

869
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:44.119
are right supposedly responsible and have done them multiple times.

870
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:46.480
But even then, you know, like freak shit can happen. Yeah,

871
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:49.199
someone can rip something in the bar, can slip the

872
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:52.000
moisture in the air. You know, we're all humans. There's

873
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:54.559
human mistakes in spotting and loading, and there's human mistakes

874
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:58.239
in all this, and maybe there's human mistakes on you

875
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.440
like how you push someone in how or you don't

876
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:01.360
push someone you know.

877
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:06.199
Yeah, and I think too that like if you it's

878
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:08.400
maybe align this a little bit more with a CrossFit

879
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:10.920
in the in the same scenario with a with a

880
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:13.639
power listing meat, but you know it's going to be

881
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:17.079
you know, in a hot location or outside or whatever

882
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:18.920
and not going to have You're not going to have

883
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:23.199
the the the temperature mitigation kind of stuff that you

884
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:26.719
would you would want to have and you decide to

885
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:30.239
go ahead and do that meet, well, then it's really

886
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:31.159
it's really on you.

887
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:35.199
Yeah, yeah, I think responsibility even all in this CrossFit event,

888
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:41.800
it's tragic. It is responsibilities not balanced, but it's multiple places. Yeah,

889
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:44.719
you know, you can't just pinpoint an answer, you know,

890
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:47.039
especially when you're talking about a lead athletics for a

891
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:50.880
million bucks, right, you know, like sure, yeah, I think UFC.

892
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:53.880
Actually no one's technically died in the UFC. I know

893
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:57.440
they have an mm A and boxing and joice. But

894
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:00.559
then yeah, like that responsibility too, right where you're gonna

895
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:03.519
put it, You're just gonna like flip the sport upside down?

896
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:06.079
And then what are the numbers? Obviously data can speak

897
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:08.800
pretty good, and even CrossFit though by the numbers, is

898
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:10.000
probably doing decent.

899
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:13.039
A cross fit by the numbers, yeah, like you wouldn't

900
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:14.239
necessarily or.

901
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:16.840
Like how many people are doing CrossFit? Like the warehouse

902
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:21.639
style gym got popular because of CrossFit and across the nation. Sure,

903
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:24.119
some places, like I've been to a CrossFit in Cleveland, Ohio,

904
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:27.519
and they had heater in HVACT because it's fucking ten

905
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:29.920
degrees in the winter, but a lot of places don't

906
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:33.320
depending on where you live, and they have less than

907
00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:37.079
average athletes and they're every day going crazy, you know,

908
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:38.840
and maybe people have died and you just don't hear

909
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:39.239
about it.

910
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:41.920
Yeah, I think that, Yeah, that's a possibility. But I

911
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:46.039
think that the kind of well, I mean, the games

912
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:49.360
have more scrutiny and for sure, and nobody's died there yet.

913
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.880
So like if you were purely from just an actuarial standpoint,

914
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:56.960
you wouldn't assume that it was likely would that someone

915
00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.039
would deny die in this scenario.

916
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:01.960
But yeah, I mean people have died in soccer, yeah,

917
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:04.920
you know, just from heart stuff, similar thing, probably a

918
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:08.559
mix of personal responsibility of sleep and hydration plus pre

919
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:12.000
medical conditions plus maybe a hot day or whatever. You know,

920
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:15.840
people drop that on soccer fields. Yeah. I don't know

921
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:17.480
what the answer is. I don't I don't know. My

922
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:19.280
point I guess is sometimes I don't know if there

923
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:20.599
is an answer, right.

924
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:21.880
I think there may not be answer.

925
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:23.840
Some of the responsibilities on the FED to do the

926
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:25.800
best they can and some of the responsibilities on you

927
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:29.239
to know your limits and be a human. Like same idea,

928
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.119
like you can go jog on the freeway right now,

929
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:33.920
like some bad all happen.

930
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.920
Yeah, potentially, Yeah, that's at Yeah, you're you're more likely

931
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:40.719
to be a target in that environment and not you know,

932
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:42.960
and we're not apologists for CrossFit at all. It's just

933
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:46.239
that it's more complicated than people would like it to be.

934
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:51.880
Because in the in the aftermath of any tragedy, you're

935
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:53.679
looking for an answer, you're looking for escape.

936
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:56.440
Yeah, no, crossfits fat and you're looking for a way

937
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:59.159
for it to not happen again. Yeah, CrossFit's at fault,

938
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:02.079
but they're just not all fault. Crossfits should have had

939
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:07.000
the highest level fucking Navy Seal lifeguards, right like they

940
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.760
should have some lifeguards that are highly competent that are

941
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:12.960
clearly in the video not watching the swimm or swim.

942
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:16.639
That's that's like the easiest finger. But my point is, yeah,

943
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:22.000
that there's multiple, multiple blames to push around, or you

944
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.519
can look at the positives or whatever opposite side and

945
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:27.519
like there is no blame, right, the same thing, just

946
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.400
an act of God. Well, not about that, but as

947
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.960
much as my point is that you can blame everyone

948
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:36.280
and you can also blame no one, like it's the

949
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:41.400
same answer, yeah, right, because the blame is multiple places. Yeah,

950
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:45.760
the clear one is irresponsible a CrossFit to have shit lifeguards. Yeah,

951
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:48.599
But then everywhere else, you know, because the athlete has

952
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:50.639
to have some responsibility, that athlete's coach has to have

953
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:54.119
some responsibility, the other athletes have to have some responsibility.

954
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:58.119
Whoever programmed it has responsibility. Like the clear cut one

955
00:48:58.159 --> 00:48:59.239
is yeah, lifeguards.

956
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.519
Yeah, that's like the first line. And then then then

957
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:07.239
the programming versus the versus the conditions.

958
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:07.599
Yeah.

959
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:12.079
Yeah, it's like the programming might have been fine, although

960
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:15.480
it probably wasn't because of the sequence, might have been

961
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:19.880
fine in you know, I just making people swim when

962
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:25.800
they're already exhausted in another discipline is difficult for me

963
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:26.679
to rationalize.

964
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:29.599
Yeah, but exhausted's like a tough thing to just like

965
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:34.639
gauge too. Yeah right, there's people that swim thirty miles. Yeah,

966
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:36.480
so that's like saying, like, should you not swim five

967
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:38.320
miles after you swim five miles? Well, if you're prepped

968
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:38.800
for it.

969
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:42.159
Yeah, this was well, I don't know that any any

970
00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:46.239
of the crossfitters really have a deep background in swimming.

971
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:48.920
I think he did, did he? Yeah? I think that's

972
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:51.239
part of the story is I think he did, and

973
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:53.239
I think a lot of them do, and it was Yeah,

974
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:54.000
I think a lot of them are.

975
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:56.679
Gangsters, especially pre eight am and the you know.

976
00:49:56.960 --> 00:50:00.000
Yeah that I don't know. But and and because cross

977
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:02.480
it has added an element of swimming for the last

978
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:06.159
fifteen years, you know, something's common. Yeah, you know, all

979
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:09.559
the crossfitters I follow are swimming daily, if not weekly.

980
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.320
And again that's no blame here nor there either. Part

981
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:16.360
of it, obviously is like the fun of the sport

982
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:20.000
or the mystery factor is the randomness that you don't

983
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:22.800
know what's coming. That's like the core value of CrossFit.

984
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:28.719
Yeah, it would seem to me like they could publish

985
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:35.360
a mixture of stated events, you know, prescribed events, and

986
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:40.519
and then like holes for mystery events that only are

987
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.360
announced on the day of or whatever, and that would

988
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:48.239
be just as effective as not knowing when any of

989
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:48.519
them were.

990
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:49.920
I think they do that a little bit. I think

991
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.920
they'll put some out. But even that doesn't take away

992
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:54.840
from that one random one being the mad one.

993
00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:56.960
No, no, well, I would hope that.

994
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:59.719
Yeah, right, if you're saying random, yeah, it doesn't matter

995
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:02.760
if there's two, if there's one, if one's a bad one.

996
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:05.119
Yeah. Yeah, it's just a chance game and some of

997
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:09.360
it is I don't know. I mean, some of it

998
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:12.840
could be more strategic and less exertional.

999
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.800
That's for sure, as it is just you know, and

1000
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:21.719
visual copaid, you know. And then strong Man probably does

1001
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:23.840
do the best version, although obviously you can get injured there.

1002
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:27.280
Strong Man has randomness, but they'll give you a slight

1003
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:30.320
heads up, like hey, there's stones in this one, and

1004
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:33.440
you don't always know exactly some competitions, local competitions, you'll

1005
00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:36.000
know exactly what's happening. You got stones over bar or whatever.

1006
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:39.000
But even the sport of strong men just has like

1007
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:45.360
slightly less barriers. And I think CrossFit does in pattern recognition,

1008
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:49.559
but in rules it doesn't, you know, like strong Man

1009
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:52.519
rules are within these borders. They're not gonna just like

1010
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:54.559
be like this. Yeah, they're not going to show up

1011
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:58.039
with some random shit. You'll do a poll event, you

1012
00:51:58.079 --> 00:51:59.519
might pull a car, you might pull a plane, but

1013
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:03.360
you're doing a whole event. And we're a CrossFit. Literally

1014
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:05.760
ten years ago they had them throw a baseball for distance,

1015
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:07.599
you know, yeah, and shoot a gun. I think why

1016
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:10.239
one of them. Yeah, like target shooting, like.

1017
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:13.599
Which is just so that's that one was weird.

1018
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:15.519
Yeah, it's just out of the realm. And I get it.

1019
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:17.320
I mean you're trying to like test hand eye, Like

1020
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:20.360
I understand kind of what's going on the general concept,

1021
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.599
but having no borders also.

1022
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:27.559
Yeah, why couldn't they make that? They could have made

1023
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:28.760
that part e sports.

1024
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:33.000
Yeah, well that's why I argue that it's not a sport. Yeah,

1025
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:36.000
like you got no boundaries. A sport can't have no boundaries,

1026
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:40.880
you can't. You gotta have like qualified, standardized rules, like

1027
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:44.920
that's got to be at least one pillar of sport.

1028
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:48.280
Dumb. Yeah, you know, going back to a strong man

1029
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:50.239
for a second. If you know that if there's going

1030
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:53.159
to be a stone event, you're gonna have to lift

1031
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:55.599
it somehow. You may or may not have to carry

1032
00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:58.280
it a distance. You're gonna have to you know, it's

1033
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.840
gonna have to be onto something or over something. You

1034
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:03.880
know you're gonna be able to use tack. You know

1035
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:06.079
you're gonna be able to use you know, some kind

1036
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:07.400
of a sleeve if you want to.

1037
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:09.599
You just don't know if it's heavy for one or

1038
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:12.159
lightish for one hundred, right, Yeah, but you know you're

1039
00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:13.159
in the pocket.

1040
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.800
Or progressive, right, and you know you need to get

1041
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:17.360
them all or you need to get you know.

1042
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:19.320
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that would do CrossFit.

1043
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:21.559
And again, if you go by pattern recognition of what's

1044
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:24.199
happened at the games, you can build your own boundaries.

1045
00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:26.960
But the sport doesn't have boundaries.

1046
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:29.360
It doesn't have boundaries. Yeah, so you can prepare to

1047
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:31.119
a certain extent, but you still don't know what they're

1048
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:33.480
gonna do right right Where a strong man, it's a

1049
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:35.360
little bit you know, like you know, if you're gonna

1050
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:37.880
lift a uh, if you're gonna do some kind of

1051
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:40.559
a car lift or a deadlift or whatever, typically they

1052
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:45.440
allow a squad suit or a or a deadlift suit.

1053
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:47.360
Yeah, that's stuff they tell you ahead of time for sure.

1054
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:50.679
And you don't train in a suit the whole time

1055
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:53.079
and show up and they're like no suits, right, Yeah,

1056
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:53.880
it doesn't really happen.

1057
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:57.440
And we i mean we saw here too because because

1058
00:53:57.480 --> 00:53:59.519
we had you know, two years of World Strongest Man

1059
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:02.159
here that they are careful about the times of day

1060
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:04.800
that they schedule stuff because these are big men and

1061
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:05.679
it gets very hot.

1062
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:07.800
Yeah, Sacramento was a little rough because they do it

1063
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:08.880
what June or May.

1064
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:10.320
Yeah, they were doing outdoors.

1065
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:12.360
I order why they haven't tried to move it indoors,

1066
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:14.920
like obviously the visual factor, but Brian's was indoors. It

1067
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:18.119
look cool, yeah, obviously depending on where you are, because

1068
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:19.480
it started a lot of times it was in the

1069
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.960
beaches of La. Sure, the beaches of make it look

1070
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:25.840
cool in the back dround and that's seventy degrees and

1071
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:28.519
the beaches of May right in La. But if you

1072
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:30.559
want to travel the world China, I think that's the

1073
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:32.760
infamous one. I don't know what twenty twelve or something.

1074
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:35.119
A lot of them got sick and heat stroke ish

1075
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:38.559
and food issues and yeah, yeah, if you make again,

1076
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:42.679
that's kind of like the randomness of their everybody's died later. Yeah, yeah,

1077
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:46.360
it's hard. Tea is hard.

1078
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:49.639
I don't have anything else I answers to this question,

1079
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:51.280
but it's something to think about.

1080
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:54.920
Yeah, it is just really bad timing for the company

1081
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:59.280
in the brand, as it was already popularity wise heading

1082
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:01.960
south Ish. Yeah, you know, we talked a lot of

1083
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:04.840
and even the sport, it's the bar bell itself is

1084
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:08.519
like like less unified than it used to be because

1085
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:11.679
it grew. I think I think because it grew that

1086
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:13.639
each niche was almost big enough, so they just kind

1087
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:17.000
of like isolated. Or again in like twenty thirteen to

1088
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:20.480
twenty sixteen, like there's a lot of crossover between bodybuilders

1089
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:24.039
and weightlifters and powerlifters and crossfitters. Like there the communities

1090
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:27.199
were close ish, they didn't always get along and not

1091
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:30.400
everyone was on the intersect, but there's a lot of

1092
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:32.400
people getting along on multiple sides. And now it just

1093
00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:35.920
seems completely they all isolated. I don't know there was COVID,

1094
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:37.800
I don't know what happened, but everyone just seemed to

1095
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:40.599
like crawl into their own niche. And I just never

1096
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:42.440
think that's good. I mean, you make any kind of

1097
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:46.679
echo chamber politically, sports wise, friend wise, it's just never

1098
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:51.239
a good thing. So like that doesn't help CrossFit either, No,

1099
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:53.519
because a lot of those coaches in the early days

1100
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:57.000
were like crossover coaches. You know, they grab a powerlifting coach,

1101
00:55:57.000 --> 00:55:58.960
they grab a running coach, they grab a swimming coach,

1102
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:01.119
and they get better. And now there's like whatever a

1103
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:05.199
CrossFit coach is the coach that's good at everything. I

1104
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:09.480
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