Nov. 26, 2025

Die Hard 2: Die Harder | Holiday Film Fest | Guest co-host Josh Hajjar

Die Hard 2: Die Harder | Holiday Film Fest | Guest co-host Josh Hajjar
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In something of an annual tradition, the Holiday Film Fest is back with this Christmas flick for Thanksgiving. Yes, Die Hard 2 is a Christmas movie!  

In this film, detective John McClane (Bruce Willis) tries to stop a terrorist plot at Washington D.C.'s Dulles International Airport on Christmas Eve. After the incident at Nakatomi Plaza, it’s fair to wonder if this guy can ever catch a break.

If nothing else, the broadcast version of this film gave us the iconic phrase, “Yippee Ki‐Yay, Mister Falcon!”

Josh Hajjar is back to help break this one down. You can find Josh on Instagram @amazingjrab https://www.instagram.com/amazingjrab/. Shoot him a follow.


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Alright, we're in okay, welcome to the studio. I've been

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here in a minute. I mean I've been here, but

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I haven't been here to record in a minute. I've

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been doing everything remotely from home. But hey, I have

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I have a guest host with me to guess co

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host it with me today. Josh is with me, and

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we're going to talk about, uh, the sequel to like

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one of the most popular episodes that we did last year,

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and this is die Heard two. We did die Hard

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last year and it and pretty much ruled. So so

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here we are we Diehard Too, die Heard Too. Welcome

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Josh Hard. Die Hard. Yes, that's literally what it says,

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die harder. I can't know how. I don't know how

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to die any harder that I'm already died.

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But though I will say that there's a naming pattern

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for these movies, and they didn't follow it with the

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second one. It's not really called die Harder. It's just

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called Diehard Too. But then there's die Hard with a Vengeance,

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which is the best one. Yes, there's Live Free or

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die Hard, and then there's a Good Day to die Hard.

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I've never seen the last two.

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I've heard I haven't seen the last two that they

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got terrible reviews. Yeah, they were just like pretty trash

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money grabs. Yeah. The only thing that that was halfway

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interesting is the guy who used to be who used

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to be the face of Macintosh in the Mac versus

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PC commercials. Oh, he was in. Justin Long was in

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one of them. Yeah, he was probably in die Hard,

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like he was the Live Free or die Hard. I

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think he was in the Russian one, whichever that one was.

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Yeah, there's one where they bring his son in his

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I saw some parts of it. I think it's a

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good not a good day to die Hard, Live Free

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or die Hard has McLean's son in it, Okay, And

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that might be the one with Justin Long. He seems

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to be like such a frantic sidekick type character.

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Yeah. I think that one of the weirdest things about

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this whole series is the wife Holly. Yeah, Like in

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the first movie, he's going out to see her for Christmas.

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She and the kids have been living in LA because

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she took this job with the Nokotomi Corporation and he

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has been a cop in New York and this one

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he has moved to LA but she has to fly

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into d C. And I guess that's where her parents live.

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Yeah, that was a little jarring because I've lived I

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grew up on the East Coast and we actually used

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to visit Washington, d C.

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Pretty frequently.

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And I will say to anybody who's never been, that's

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actually a very underrated trip, is going to Washington, d C.

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And seeing all the monuments in the museums Democracy Disneyland.

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Yeah, but it's a really nice trip. There's lots of

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great things to see. There's lots of good restaurants. But Washington,

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d C. In the winter, I don't know if this

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is just my memory of the early eighties and late nineties,

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it never gets that cold. That's what really jarred me.

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They were driving over lakes and water. I'm getting ahead

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of ourselves, driving over lakes and water on ice. It

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never gets cold enough to ice in washing like they

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were in Michigan. Yeah, it's like, well, actually it looked

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like they were in Canada or something.

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Canada maybe, I don't know where they filmed that part. Yeah,

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it was so she there They're in Washington, d C.

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much snow. It's really cold. And that's really weird because

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from my experience, I've never seen Washington, d C. Frozen

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like that. I've seen it when it's been snowing, but

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never frozen. I mean, I think it does some, but

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I think it's pretty rare, especially these days with all

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of the you know, climate change, I guess is the

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word I'm looking for. Climate change. I don't want to

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say global warming, because it's not just warming. Some places

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are cold or someplaces are hotter. Yeah, it interesting film.

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A A stat that really blew my mind about this

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movie is that it actually made twice as much as

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the first one. Wow.

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That was kind of anticipated though, because the first one

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was such a hit.

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So first one was such a hit, but you think

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it would have been bigger yea, And this one is

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was was twice as big. I don't know what the

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third one brought in. The third one was like, as

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you said that, that was the best one. Yeah, this one.

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The first one, I don't even know what was based on.

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I guess it was probably based on a book at

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some point, or just some some specs script running around

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Hollywood or whatever. This one is based on a book

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and they adapted into a diehard film. Called fifty eight minutes.

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Somewhere in the film, somebody says fifty eight minutes.

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and hijacking and all these things. It's such a concept

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of that time period, right, right, because now after nine

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to eleven, we have TSA and there's so much tight secure,

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there's armed soldiers, there's a variety things at airports.

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I yeah, I think that that's got to be the

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most jarring part of it. I mean, there is a

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scene where where Holly Gennaro McLain, his wife, is sitting

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on the plane talking to her seat mate, an older

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woman who like pulls out of her purse, her purse

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of freaking taser.

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Yeah, she pulls out a she pulls out like it's

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one of those cattle protastes. Yes, yeah, And I'm like, wait,

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how did she get that on the plane?

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Like, I remember that things were a little bit laxed

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before nine to eleven, but I don't remember people getting

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on with like weapons.

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there was a smoking section in the airplane.

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Yeah, so it's it's it's it's such a like it's

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a definitely a piece that's a period of its time.

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But shout out to Bonnie Badelia because she is so

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great as John McLean's wife.

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She's great, Yes, she they if you have seen the

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first one, and actually if you've seen this one as well,

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the asshole reporter guy who has the most punishable face ever,

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William Atherton, most punishable face ever, is on the plane

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with her, but they're supposed to not be near each

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other because he has a restraining order against her because

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at the end of the first movie she punched him

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in the mouth and knocked some teeth out. Yeah, which

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and and they know her.

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There's something with either the people who write the screenplay

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because this is a different director from the first. This

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is Harlan Yeah, and these were directed by mctererne in

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the first in the third, which is why the quality

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in the third one jumps so high, right, But the

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director or whoever wrote the screenplayer, the producers must have

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something against journalists, because all journalists. This guy plays a

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journalist that you know does terrible things in the first movie,

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and then in the second movie he breaks the story

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and it causes mass panic and you know, writing so so,

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and then there's also the other journalist who's getting on

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McLean's nerves in the beginning of the movie, the female

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one I can't remember what the name of the character.

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Was, who turns out to kind of be okay.

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Who turns out to kind of be okay, but she's

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still very annoying herself in the last few moments of

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the film. So somebody out there had something against journalists.

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Journalists whoever one of the producers or something, I don't know.

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Some some people did not like journalists at all. This

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film may be the only film ever where you're introduced

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to the villain naked. You see his whole ass. This

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is true, and they're very strategically blocking out his cock. Yes, yes,

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I think if it was made today you would see

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the whole manty, the full monty.

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But it was a really strange way to introduce it.

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It was a very strange way. And that guy has

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almost always played some kind of bad guy. The one

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good guy that he's played was the president in Iron

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Man three. Oh that's right. I didn't realize that that's

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how same actor so far apart. Yes, yeah, he definitely.

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He doesn't have a he's a scary face, not a

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punchable face. Well, they have Robert Patrick as well as

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one of the Yeah goes down early and he's but

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I mean his facial expressions are just perfect for roles

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like this. Yeah. John Lewisamo is in the movie too,

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but only very briefly, and apparently they dubbed his voice

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so he has no accent. Yeah.

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And I want to give a big shout out to

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the crew on the first three DIEHRD movies as somebody

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of Middle Eastern descent. None of the villains are committing

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terrorist acts in the trilogy of the best movies. They're

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usually you know, like white German or in this case,

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this was like a white American, you know, military special

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former special forces, you know, so no terrorists. There's lots

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of airplanes involved, there's lots of terroristic activities, and nobody says.

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I'll lock barn Ones.

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And so I got to say I can appreciate these

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movies for that.

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You know, it's it's weird. I don't know if you

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watch Slow Horses, but I'm a giant, giant fan of

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that show, and I have like read or listened to.

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I don't know I'm gonna get credit for I'm gonna

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take credit for reading from listening to that series, but

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the most recent season of that show, the antagonist villain

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folks are in the show they're Lebanese and they create

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this whole like reason why they're so pissed off or whatever.

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But in the book they were North Korean, which kind

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of made more sense to me. But I guess they

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felt like it was it was unmotivated or whatever. It

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was just like it's a weird switch up. Yeah, it

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was a very weird switch up. So you know, apologize for.

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For sawhorses, but that they changed it.

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They changed it.

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Yeah, yeah, but yeah, so naked villain early on he's

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Jack though, I mean you can't really take that away

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from and he's doing some kind of tight, chie ish

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kind of thing.

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I don't evenly really know exactly. He has got some

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martial arts moves. Later on, when he fights John McClain,

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they don't seem to work out that well for him. No,

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they don't.

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And I think this is why these movies are so

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universally loved, because John McClain is really just the everyman, right.

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He's like, he smokes, he's probably drunk, he drinks a

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little bit. He's just this everyman person. He overcomes the odds,

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So I don't know when you know, usually on the

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internet we have discussions based around like who would win

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Batman or Kevin McAllister. But we have to start putting

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John McLain in these conversations because the odds that he

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overcomes special forces, you know, terrorist operations from j Many

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who are looking to rebuild the third or fourth Reich.

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You know, the things that he does just seemed to

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be overcoming crazy odds and winning at the end.

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Yeah, I understanding this that the in the premise of

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this movie is that his wife is flying in from somewhere.

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It's not real clear where she was. Maybe she's coming

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in from La but he came in from La White

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anything they come together that's not clear, never never addressed

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at all. And he on his way into the airport

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not only gets his mother in law's car towed, but

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he sees a bunch of activity that makes him hinky

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that there's something's going on. And as par for the course,

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in every one of these frickin' movies, as far as

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I can tell, that nobody in authority ever believes him,

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even though even in this one, like people of who

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he is said and that sort of one of the

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least realistic things about it other than an ejection seat

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in a cargo plane. Is uh that that the cops,

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the other cops are not like fawning over the guy.

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You would think that it's like, oh, yeah, you're kind

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of a cop hero like I, you know, I want

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to be like you. You're a badass whatever, you know,

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And they they just totally discount him. And I mean

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that was one of the most annoying things about the

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first movie, and they just cloned it for this one. Yeah.

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And and you know that starts out with Dennis Franz,

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who you know, he always plays the same role of

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that cop or the Italian, you know, wise guy with

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the accent giving him a ticket and just being really,

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that's his brother, Yeah, that's his brother's brother, his brother.

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Yes, Dennis friends is the is the head of the

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head of the police.

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Yeah, and he's not believing him the whole time, and

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then his other gives him a ticket. In the beginning,

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you know, nobody really recognizes or acknowledgees this crazy story

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of Nakatomy Plaza, but then they'll mention it throughout the movie.

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Oh you're that NACATOI Plaza guy. You're that Mackatoni Plaza guy,

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Like you should.

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Have some cred, right, I feel like you should have

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some cred.

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Yeah, and they should be giving him some. You know

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that he can recognize certain situations at this point, a

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little bit.

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Of difference, just a little bit like somebody fucking believe

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this man. You have terrorists on your airport and they're

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gonna fuck things up, and you just don't want to listen.

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And I guess I don't know that. Roger Ebert used

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to call things that didn't make any sense at idiot plots.

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There's a little bit of an idiot plot going on,

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whether they don't. It's like, if you felt like there

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was a threat to your airport, even pre nine to eleven,

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you would have done something about it.

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I would think, Yeah, I think you would have shut

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it down. Yeah, I think you would have at least investigated.

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He doesn't take much to shut down an airport. Yeah.

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He starts out mentioning that the guy's got a glock seven.

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This is a really advanced weapon. It costs a lot

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of money. Yeah, And it seems like Dennis Brown's is

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just ignoring all of his insight into this instead of saying, Okay,

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this seems like valid points and maybe we shouldn't.

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Yeah, oh yeah, like oh yeah, maybe you have a point.

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I guess it doesn't work if you if everybody cooperates.

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With him, I mean, it doesn't tell a good of

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his story.

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I guess not. I mean that's that's you know, it's frustrating.

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And that's that was what was very frustrating about the

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first movie too. It's like about that, that's sorry about that?

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Was that your stomach from the nurry or was it? Yeah,

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that's just one of the things that that that made

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me crazy about the first movie, and it really makes

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me crazy in this one because like in the first movie,

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they didn't no idea who he was. Yeah, none of

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the none of the I mean they maybe sort of

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looked him up at some point, but you know, they

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they just didn't take him seriously. Yeah, because it was

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like FBI assholes and and LAPD assholes and whatever. And

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this is all airport cops and then military, except that

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the military spoiler alert is not the military. No, they are.

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They are rogue agents. They were there mercenaries mercenaries, yes, yeah,

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and they they you know, they're the earlier scenes where

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they're they're ignoring him, and then he comes back with

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the fingerprints and you know, the list of the record

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on the guy that he killed, and they still just

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don't don't listen to him.

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They still don't listen to any of his strategies where

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he's talking about, hey, you know, these are going to

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be trained killers that are coming after you and your forces.

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You know this, this is definitely not what you guys

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want to do here. So even after he does prove hey,

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I did something and I got information and now here, look,

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I'm right about these things, they're still ignoring all of

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his insight and all of his strategy.

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Yeah, and because it, I mean borrowing from from slow

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horses for a moment, they just can't be arsed to

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figure things out. They just don't. It's like, oh, it's

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you know, it's Christmas Eve, like, you know, we just

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we can't. We don't have time for terrorists or all right, Yeah,

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we just we just have to keep keep moving the

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people through here. That's that's all we got time for. Yeah.

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And one of the things I think I appreciated the

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most throughout this movie was how meta? Did you realize

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how meta?

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It was?

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Because as soon as he starts getting into the vents

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when he's trying to you know, help he's trying to

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help that special force of cops, Yeah, the Swat Force. Yeah,

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he gets into the vents, he's like, why do I

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always get into these situations?

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Right?

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And then there's multiple comments throughout the film where he

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and his wife acknowledged why does this keep happening to us?

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Yeah? That and it reminds me in the first the

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sort of the middle the original Star Wars trilogy, Well,

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they say I have a bad feeling about this. The

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first time I realized that it was said that often,

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Like I went to a boovie marathon, like it was

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like fifteen years after the first one or something, and

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they ran four, five, and six in the theater, like

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it's like eight hours straight whatever. And you realize by

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the by uh, by the third one, by Return of

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the Jedi, that they just keep saying that line. So

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it's one of those things. Yeah, yeah, like and and

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and and uh. I think that Han says something to

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look like how bad it is? It? And Luke says

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that pretty much like usual, you know, like this is

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the kind of ship we get into. Just you know

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that happens to us. So it's kind of kind of

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like that that that philosophy of oh, well, you know,

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we're just gonna be we're gonna be behind the eight

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ball like routinely, just on the rag.

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Yeah, and that probably the audience is thinking to themselves,

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you know, oh, here's this big terrorist thread again. Yeah,

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and who's at the center of it is this guy

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John McLain who's supposed to be the everyman cop R

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So how does he just keep getting into these situations?

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Isn't he targeted? In the third one?

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He's purposely targeted, That's what I thought. So I can't

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remember a time where he says why do I keep

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getting into situations like this? Or he gets into the events,

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So I think that's again why the third one is

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kind of like the Superior movie here. Yeah, but it's

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more tightly plotted. It's more tightly plotted, and it just

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has really good pacing.

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There was times in.

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This movie, I will say too, where it seemed to

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slow the pacing down a lot.

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There is some repetition for sure. Yeah, and you know

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the big fight set pieces kind of repeat.

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Yeah, yeah, and then in between those fight set pieces

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they're back in the tower talking about how we're going

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to get the tower online. Yeah, they seem to kind

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of broke it up in places where it just seems

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to slow it down a lot.

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Yeah, it seems like to me, I actually need to

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find this guy's well. They managed to work Reggie Veljoen into.

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This one a little bit, which was great to see.

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Yeah, John Amos was the commander of the guy who

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turned the group of mercenaries who look like special forces.

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Who also did a very good job. I will say

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that one of the constant themes that I've seen these

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early nineties, late eighties movies that are such classics is

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that the actors, even the character actors, they really come

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in and they do their job. There is not I

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could honestly say in this whole film, there's not one

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performance that I would look at and say, this doesn't

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look believable. They either have a you know, a character,

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and they stick to that character. They never go outside

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that character. They never go above or or below with

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the ranges for that character, but they play it perfectly

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on the nose.

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The speaking of which Fred Thompson, he spent years on

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Law and Order. Yes, he was also in the Hunt

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for Red October. But he was also a United States

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representative congressman. Well, that's right, that's right, he was, so

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that that was interesting. He died in twenty fifteen, but

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he was all over the place, many many interests. That

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a very impressive performance to me was this guy Art Evans,

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who plays the technician or whatever, who is trying to

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help get things back online. Yeah and damn near dies. Yeah. Yeah.

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He's trying to go that swat team to the tower

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that hasn't been opened, right, yeah, and then he ends

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up being involved in the.

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Shootout a kind of idiot plot. Issue was for me

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was that they didn't figure out earlier on that they

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could use the communication at the at the perimeter, which

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is normally just a just a repeating sound to broadcast

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to the planes that like, like, I guess they had

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to have what there's a horrific plane crash in this movie.

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That's that's very true, where an entire British airways ish,

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I don't know what then what the name of the

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actual windsor windsor crashes and burns and everyone's killed because

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the terrorists have set the ground level to be higher,

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yes than they should. So there was like two hundred

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feet higher than it was supposed to be.

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Yes, So when they go to land, they're at an

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angle and a speed that's way too fast, and yes,

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there's a horrific and everybody aboard dies.

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I'm so glad they showed us what the inside of

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that plane look like. So we got to see all

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those people die.

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A ball of flame, which it's which as a kid,

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you know a lot of our parents had seen the

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first die Hard movies. They're a little gory, and you know,

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they're they're probably not approved for kids, but back then

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they definitely our parents just left the TV on for us, right,

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So we ended up watching these movies and things like

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RoboCop and they definitely weren't appropriate for us at those ages.

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So then as a kid, I think I was maybe

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eight or nine years old and probably in my earlier

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adolescence when this movie was on in syndication on T

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and T and TBS, and to see that, I can't

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imagine seeing that as a young child whose parents didn't

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expect that this movie was going to be.

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This level of violence. Of violent.

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Yeah, they had a theme here where they liked to

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show the inside of things when they were blowing up

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and people were dying.

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Yeah. Yeah. A very famous thing about this movie that

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has to do with the with the where they're shown

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on television is how they dubbed out the swearing. Oh

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that's right. So the most famous line from this movie

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is not not in the theatrical version. When toward the

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end of the film, actually at the the climax of

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the film, John McClain says, yippy kaya, motherfucker. Yeah, But

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on TV it was yippy kaya mister falcon because it

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matched his lips. But at the same time, I guess

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the idea was that falcon was the call sign of

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the of the bad guy.

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Yeah yeah, which which I mean kind of makes sense.

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But I think it probably would have done better just

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to bleep it out. Maybe they could have just bleeped it.

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People would people know, you can infer what's.

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Being said from the bleep and then it's still appropriate

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for the air. The whole mister Falcon thing is something

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you can encounter just in regular you know, online you know, uh,

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social media, So people can say mister falcon and you

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know what, the reference is.

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Crazy And that was That's the other thing that I

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noticed early on. John McClain has the singers in these

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one liners.

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Yes, and so according to the trivia for this one.

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In the first movie, he did ad lib some stuff

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that was that was not in the script that that

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ended up in the final film. This one, they just

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let him roll, Oh they did. Yeah, so there might

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have been there might have been dialogue written, but pretty

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much anytime he's just talking to himself, that's pretty much

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ad lib stuff. Oh so that's just the genius of

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Bruce Willis. Yeah, yeah, I was actually watched the thing

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this morning. Speaking of your genius of people ad libbing

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different media project Happy Days. Anson Williams, who played Potzy

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on Happy Days back in the seventies, talked about Robin

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Williams and his first appearance on Happy Days as Morc.

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They had written this script and everyone said, oh my god,

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this is awful, this is a terrible episode. Why are

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we even doing this? And they had another actor attached

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and the guy came and he was awful, and they

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were they were kind of stuck. And the guy quit.

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He knew he was awful, and he quit, and they're like, well,

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who can we get to replace him? Under you know,

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under pressure here? You know, we only have I mean,

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we're we're already basically in rehearsals and we need to

465
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shoot at the end of this week. And a couple

466
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:28.279
of people, including I guess Penny Marshall knew knew Robin Williams,

467
00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:30.480
and they brought him in and so much of that

468
00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:33.519
was he's like fixed the script like on the fly, yeah,

469
00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:35.599
by with all of his ad libs and stuff, and

470
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:38.119
they just the genius of being able to talk off

471
00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:41.039
the top of your head in a way that this

472
00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:45.400
still works for the property you're working on and doesn't

473
00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.720
have to be bleeped. Yeah, because he could work pretty blue,

474
00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:52.720
Yeah he could. That was definitely the genius of Robin Williams,

475
00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:55.359
and definitely the genius of Bruce Willis to ad lib

476
00:25:55.640 --> 00:25:58.440
a large portion of his dialogue in this movie.

477
00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:00.720
Because the things that he says are really memorable too.

478
00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:02.880
You can definitely hear those one liners and you just

479
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:06.720
remember off the top of your head. So the character

480
00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:09.480
itself of John McLean is just a perpetual character is

481
00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:11.599
just one of the more impressive ones, not for just

482
00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:14.200
the feats that he does, but just for the way

483
00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:18.400
that Bruce Willis perfectly embodies this character through a variety

484
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:20.720
of movies, and a variety of situations.

485
00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:24.559
Yeah, that makes it even more sad that to know

486
00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:28.599
the condition he's in now he's got I don't know

487
00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:31.240
exactly what the what the diagnosis is some kind of

488
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:36.200
dementia at this point and does not recognize anybody, and

489
00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:41.599
you know, and I mean his family is still caring

490
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.200
for him, I guess, but you know, it's a difficult situation,

491
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:48.799
sad that he's just not you know, he's not living

492
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:58.920
out a normal lifespan as the Bruce willis that we knew. Yeah. Yeah, so, Uh,

493
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:06.319
there's one more giant explosion at the end of the

494
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:10.920
film that solves the whole problem of being able to

495
00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:13.319
land these planes. After all the lights have been turned

496
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:16.640
off and and the and the bad guys are basically

497
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:19.200
controlling all the lights and the and the communication and

498
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:25.079
stuff from a church, from a condemned church. I guess,

499
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:29.480
I don't know. Well, the caretaker that they kill early on, uh,

500
00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:32.599
says that, oh, I'll still come around. I guess that

501
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:34.640
the parish is going to be using it for some things,

502
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:37.240
but it won't be it won't be services here anymore

503
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:40.880
or whatever. And that's like two seconds before they kill him. Uh,

504
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:44.559
And they blow that thing up so before. I don't

505
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:46.400
think the parish is going to be using it for

506
00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:53.039
anything going forward. No, it was that I had no

507
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:54.880
idea where that part was going, and I had seen

508
00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:57.240
this movie before. I had totally forgotten what they did

509
00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.319
with what they were doing there and why they were

510
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.119
digging a hole. I didn't understand that. No, I didn't

511
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:04.839
get that either. I do. I don't know. Did we

512
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.519
ever see them do anything with that hole that they dug, No,

513
00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:07.839
we did.

514
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:09.759
I don't think they ever did anything with the hole

515
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:13.160
that they dug. Though they did set the stage pretty

516
00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:19.240
early for the shootout at the church, you know. Yeah,

517
00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:23.119
they did kind of foreshadow that. There's the red Ammo

518
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:25.279
and then the Blue Ammo. And I had never seen

519
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:27.720
this movie before until I watched it recently before we

520
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:30.400
did this podcast, and even I was like, wait here,

521
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:34.200
why are they switching out from the red to the blue. Oh,

522
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:36.720
there's something different about the blue Amma. Yeah, that was

523
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:40.240
easy to tell before the surprise at the end.

524
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:42.319
When when he chases them, Like, yeah, when they when

525
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:44.720
they go to flee from this, when they've been tracked

526
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:48.480
down and they go to flee from the church, they're

527
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.079
they're fleeing in snowmobiles as you as you point out,

528
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:55.359
everything's frozen. Everything's frozen, except that it's not because they're like,

529
00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:59.119
how are these things not sinking? Is my question. There's

530
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:01.880
so much water they go through. I know they break

531
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:05.079
the ice, and like, how does how do you? I mean,

532
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:08.960
what is a snowmobile way? For heaven's sakes, it weighs

533
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:11.880
a lot. Yeah, I would think it would be I mean,

534
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:14.000
it would just be falling through the ice and they

535
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:15.720
would be going down with it unless they got off

536
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:18.400
real quick. I don't know that. That did not make

537
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:19.200
a lot of sense to me.

538
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:21.640
Yeah, and then the whole snowmobile thing while they're doing it,

539
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:24.480
and again I'm looking at this and watching the scene

540
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:26.960
and saying, this doesn't not look like it was filmed on.

541
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:30.000
That's a really good question. I wonder if it says

542
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:30.960
where they filmed it.

543
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:35.839
Because this was way too this was maybe, I mean,

544
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:38.119
maybe there was climate change between them and now, but

545
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:39.559
I don't know if this was.

546
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:42.799
I don't know either. That's a really good question.

547
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:46.440
That's way too cold that I have early memories of

548
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:50.160
visiting family who lived in Virginia and stopping in Washington,

549
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:52.839
d C. And there were snowy like conditions, but it

550
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:53.599
was nothing.

551
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:54.519
Like this, nothing like that.

552
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:58.599
Yeah, and this was definitely a shot somewhere where it

553
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:00.720
was a lot colder, or the it made it look

554
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:03.200
a lot colder. But I will say that the practical

555
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.839
effects the minis that they used for the planes, the

556
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:11.400
way that they had them blow up, was pretty impressive.

557
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:14.119
Yeah. The only one that first time, the only one

558
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:20.319
that kind of looks phony is to me, the Holly's

559
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:22.400
plane when it lands. There's a shot of it that

560
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:25.039
just doesn't look right. Yeah, there's something about it. It

561
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:28.160
just looks like it looks pasty. Yeah, I don't know,

562
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:29.799
I have any other way to describe it.

563
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:32.279
Well, it's the scene too where he ejects from the

564
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:35.200
cargo plane. Now, that's the other thing that's I mean,

565
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:37.640
that's just a product of its time with CGI and

566
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:40.599
special effects. They didn't even really use CGI back then.

567
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:44.480
No, this was this came out in nineteen ninety and

568
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.079
which which will bring me to another point in a moment.

569
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:51.559
But yeah, that whole you can just see how green

570
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.279
screened it is. Yes, the explosion in the background.

571
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:57.200
Yeah, and his you know, his facial expressions on the

572
00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:58.039
ejection seat.

573
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:02.400
Yeah, yeah, to see when thirties have ejection seas. I

574
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.680
don't think they do, Like, why would you need an

575
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.079
ejection seat. You would like if you were going to

576
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:09.200
get out, you would open up the back and you

577
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:12.799
would jump out with a parachute and not it's movie

578
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:18.279
movie magic, a fighters jet or whatever. The I cannot

579
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:20.599
run this down, and I tried last night very hard,

580
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:24.000
but but my wife and I both noticed it. When

581
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:32.400
I think it's when the British plane lands. I think

582
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:35.920
it's then. It might be, yeah, I think it's when

583
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:39.960
the British because it's fairly early on. There's a music

584
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:44.200
queue that I swear to God, the same music queue

585
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:49.839
from the end of the last episode of season three

586
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:54.240
of Star Trek The Next Generation, when you're waiting for

587
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:59.200
Riker to say fire at the Borg and and Picarda's

588
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:03.720
locutus is dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

589
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:06.000
dumb dumb dum. Oh. But they you know, they use that.

590
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:09.799
They used that that music a lot and a lot

591
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:12.440
of films and a lot of movies. It's actually in

592
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.680
First Contact, it's in some of the Star Trek movies.

593
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:20.400
With the next generation cast. So they use that, they

594
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.440
use that, they reuse that, and they use that a lot.

595
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:24.839
I looked up the composers and they're not the same people.

596
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:27.480
The only thing that's the same is they both were

597
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:31.319
nineteen ninety yeah, and so I don't know. Maybe they

598
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:35.920
had like like sound recording studios near each other and

599
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.240
they're like, oh man, that that would work in my spot,

600
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:38.559
you know.

601
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:42.480
Or maybe it's just like a session musicians who who

602
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.480
were playing the same soundtrack or something.

603
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:46.200
I don't know.

604
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.839
It's a reused sound clip and I've heard I've heard

605
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:50.640
it in other films. I just can't recall now.

606
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:54.160
I mean, the orchestration is a little bit different, but

607
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:58.680
the music itself is spot on, and I just I

608
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.400
don't I could not could not find anything. I did

609
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:05.000
all the googling. I could possibly, like, you know, AI

610
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.000
ship to whatever, try to to try to make some

611
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.960
kind of connection, and it just wanted to tell me

612
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.000
about the excuse me individually, but not not together. But

613
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.359
it's the same. It's the same music. Cue. Yeah, It's

614
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:19.519
just that anticipation.

615
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:24.920
Yeah, yeah, that anticipatory, nervous anticipation music.

616
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:29.599
Yeah, this film has a much higher body count than

617
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:35.400
the first one for sure, eating civilians and uh, criminals alike.

618
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:39.119
You're not counting the windsor airlines plane. Even if you

619
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:42.839
don't count that, there's still tens of people who die,

620
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:47.559
and there's uh, there's way more explosions. Yeah, remember in

621
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:50.480
the in the first movie there's the explosion towards the end, right,

622
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.200
and this one there's at least there's at least four

623
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:57.480
or five times that large explosions, not just you know,

624
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.440
small ones, but very large, very large explosion. I think

625
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:05.400
that the analog of the scene in the first movie

626
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:10.320
where the roof of the Knokotomi plaza is going to

627
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:14.760
explode when he ties the fire hose around his waist

628
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:18.159
and then jumps off the side and then has to

629
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:22.920
shoot out the window with his bare feet get across

630
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.639
the glass. Yeah, there's a lot of blood loss in

631
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:28.719
both of these films. For John, I like, you just

632
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.239
have an ivy running at the end of both films.

633
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:35.559
But I think that the analog for that is the

634
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:39.480
is the ejection seat scene. Yes, with the explosion. Yeah,

635
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:42.719
they really they didn't vary that much from the pattern

636
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:43.719
of the first one at all.

637
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.679
Well, it's again it's it's what John McLean can survive, which,

638
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:50.239
you know, it seemed to exponentially go up in this film.

639
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:52.039
There was a little I mean, you.

640
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.880
Know, tying a hose to you and jumping off the

641
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:56.679
top of a building is kind of a wild thing

642
00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:58.159
that only happens in movies. Right.

643
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.320
There's no sort of reality that movie. But the rest

644
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.360
of the film kind of follows this. They kind of

645
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.440
stretch the rules of reality and physics a little bit, right,

646
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:10.960
But the second movie kind of ramps that up exponentially.

647
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:11.320
Yeah.

648
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:13.320
He's on the wing of a plane that's about to

649
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:16.639
take off, and he's having this climactic battle with this

650
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:20.079
two Special Forces officers that he kills, not just one,

651
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.039
that's just one, yeah, two that he manages to kill

652
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:26.199
indirect combat while he's on the wing of a plane.

653
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:32.599
This everyman LAPD cigarette smoking drinking cop probably you know,

654
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:35.639
probably doesn't run like a ten minute mile, right, He

655
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:40.000
just destroys two Special Forces officers hand to hand, hand

656
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:42.519
to hand, hand to like who taught you to fight?

657
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.679
I don't know, yeah, just overcoming these crazy odds. Grew

658
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:48.079
up on the streets of New York fighting I don't know. Yeah,

659
00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:50.639
And that's and that's again, that's the reason why these

660
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:51.800
movies are so well loved.

661
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:56.000
Right, Well, I didn't. I'm sort of remembering that there

662
00:35:56.079 --> 00:36:00.480
was a point where where Bruce willis trying to be

663
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:03.639
a boxer. I think maybe before.

664
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:06.960
He before he broke into acting, before he broke into acting,

665
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.480
before he was on and then a little then a

666
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.119
little bit while he was an actor, when he was

667
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.000
in because his big break was Moonlighting the TV show. Yeah,

668
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:18.760
so that's before then he was trying to be a boxer.

669
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:23.559
Yeah. The first season or so of that show was great,

670
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:26.679
and then it just got really difficult. It's hard for

671
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:28.719
me to remember. I was so small. I think when

672
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.559
it was out and people were watching it, sylviil Shepherd

673
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:36.559
was she was really good, but she got very difficult

674
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:39.400
and she got pregnant somewhere along the line and then

675
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:41.159
went there and she was kind of a difficult person

676
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:43.199
to work with and they stopped getting along and so

677
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:46.400
they were just not even on the on the screen

678
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.039
that much together toward the end of that show.

679
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.880
Yeah, but he definitely was a boxer that I remember

680
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:52.800
him talking about that.

681
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:56.199
Yeah, but is he he's not boxing when.

682
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:01.559
No, Yeah, he is street fighting and he just again

683
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:05.159
overcomes the odds and kills them both before the or

684
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:08.239
at least he beats the second guy to the point

685
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:10.400
where he can kind of jump off the wing, yeah

686
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:12.679
and pull the fuel line right.

687
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:17.880
Yeah. Yeah. That's another interesting point of the film that

688
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:21.320
it all the other planes are allowed to land even

689
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:28.360
though there's no landing lights on the airport because John

690
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.599
McClain has pulled the fuel dump on the plane that's

691
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:33.679
trying to escape with it. You we even talked about

692
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:35.960
like the point of this that they were trying to

693
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:44.519
for some reason liberate this South American drug lord dictator,

694
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:47.599
former dictator, I don't know. He'd been president or something

695
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:50.280
and then he got thrown out of office and then

696
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.119
he became a drug lord. That does that? Get that right?

697
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:53.639
I think so?

698
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:56.920
I think he was he was a dictator, but he

699
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:00.159
was like a really bloody dictator who was who's so

700
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:00.920
a drug lord?

701
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.960
After he and a general and a general just like

702
00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:07.239
a variety of things, every yeah, everything, And.

703
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:09.559
They never really say did they say where he's from?

704
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:11.599
Was it supposed to be? Like I don't think they

705
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:12.920
even said what the country here?

706
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:15.519
They made the country. It was a made up country.

707
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.239
And do you notice too that at points he had

708
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:19.920
a little bit of a British accent. It's again this

709
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:23.280
thing where it's like the British accent can be South American,

710
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:25.719
it could be German, it could be a lot of

711
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:26.519
different places.

712
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:30.119
Yeah. Yeah, Actually I was gonna throw this into that.

713
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:32.000
I was talking about John like Wasama being in this

714
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:34.280
film and not just barely being in it, mostly cut

715
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:36.519
out of it and they dubbed his voice and everything.

716
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.920
But this movie was produced by Joel Silver and so

717
00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:45.280
was Executive Decision, and John, like Guizamo, had a like

718
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:50.880
central role in Executive Decision. Another I think of that

719
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:53.519
one as the flip side of Air Force one. Yeah,

720
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:55.960
and then came out around the same time, and I

721
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:59.920
think that Executive Decision is the better movie in part

722
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.280
because they kill off John Claude van Dam in the

723
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:04.880
first five minutes, Like, who doesn't want to see that?

724
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:09.960
You should do executive decisions sometimes, that is a that

725
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:10.960
is a great flick.

726
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:13.559
We should, we should, We should cover a lot of

727
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:16.719
these action flicks from this time period, because I feel

728
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:19.760
like when it comes to movies now, if it's not

729
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:22.519
a really big spectacle, And that's why I kind of

730
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.760
this movie was a little strange because this was like

731
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:28.719
a terrorist operation in Washington, DC, where like thousands of

732
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:31.280
people were gonna die, so the stakes got really high.

733
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:36.199
But now movies are these big spectacles, like the superhero movies,

734
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:38.880
and it's like, oh, the end of the world is coming.

735
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:42.000
It's not just you know, this one attack that's happening

736
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.920
and the everyman overcoming the odds. I feel like this

737
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:48.400
is a genre they don't really touch anymore. I haven't

738
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:52.000
really seen or looked at or or gone to the

739
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.039
theater to see a movie where it's a thriller like this.

740
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:58.719
It's an action thriller with an everyman who can die.

741
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:01.960
Possibly there's there's significant.

742
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:04.320
Risk that can die. Part is probably the biggest one,

743
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.519
because I always say that probably Mission Impossible would be

744
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:08.159
the closest.

745
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:11.440
Yeah, Mission Impossible. They've but they're almost so formulaic.

746
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:13.840
Now. Yeah, there's almost ten of them. Yeah. I did

747
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:17.119
not see the last one because it got such horrific reviews. Yeah,

748
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:19.159
and I have no idea what happened. And then there's

749
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.000
The Fast and the Furious. But they've all every character.

750
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:25.519
Every character in that movie has become pretty much like

751
00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:29.519
a superhero who cannot die by any normal human means.

752
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:31.000
Even when they die, they come back.

753
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:33.719
Yeah, so there's no stakes. Yeah, but then there's no

754
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:37.119
movie like this where you see the hero get really hurt.

755
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:39.960
You know, he got stabbed, he's bleeding. You know, you're

756
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:42.880
talking about how much blood is he losing during this movie,

757
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:44.599
and it might be a little unrealistic at the end,

758
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:47.159
he's going to be anemic and weak, right, Yeah, but

759
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:51.400
there's nothing like that. There's nothing comparable to die Hard

760
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.719
that has come since then. And these movies were so

761
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:58.079
popular and so well loved. I remember my friends and

762
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.159
I when we were in high school and Diehard with

763
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:03.079
a Vengeance came out, and then it came out on VHS.

764
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:06.400
This is how old I am. Audience came out on VHS.

765
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:08.840
We went to the video store, we rented it probably

766
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:12.079
every week that we could, and just watched it every

767
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:15.159
weekend at a sleepover when we were fourteen years old. Yeah,

768
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:19.599
and so these movies became iconic. We started repeating John

769
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.639
McLean's lines from die Hard with a Vengeance And they

770
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.480
don't have anything similar these days. With all the sequels

771
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:28.719
that they're coming out with the remakes, they haven't thought, hey,

772
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:31.400
maybe we can make something similar to die Hard, but

773
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:32.199
not die Hard.

774
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:36.239
I think maybe the closest on TV might be.

775
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:39.119
A Reacher yeah, which is episodic.

776
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:41.480
Yeah, it's episodic, yeah.

777
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:43.239
Which is what we get now, Like we either get

778
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:47.400
the big spectacle superhero movies, some pretty good art horror

779
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:50.760
movies that they're coming out with these days, oscar Bait,

780
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:53.599
but they don't stay in the theater is very long

781
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:57.079
or the you know, this franchise has to make a

782
00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:59.639
billion dollars or it's a failure, which is part of

783
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:03.960
the reason and why I really appreciated that the tone

784
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.719
of this movie, it was dark like in modern film.

785
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:08.960
I don't know what they do, and I don't know

786
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:12.000
if Sebastian knows to speak to this better, but it

787
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.079
feels like they put everything digitally through a filter where

788
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:18.719
everything is brighter. In this movie they weren't afraid for

789
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.039
It was probably a shot on you know, like physical

790
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:26.559
it's probably cellular, right, and that has this grainy, darker

791
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:30.519
texture for all the scenes where there's shadows that they

792
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.920
can play with. And that's one of the things I've

793
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:35.639
noticed about modern films that it looks like aside from

794
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:38.159
the green screen stuff and all the cgi they put

795
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:40.920
in that you might not even notice. They seem to

796
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:42.920
just get rid of any sort of shadow on the

797
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:45.280
faces of the actors, and I feel like it adds

798
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:48.840
so much more layers and tones and emotions when they

799
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:50.079
can play with those shadows.

800
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:53.719
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that actually makes sense. I think that

801
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:56.039
there was a I don't know if it was intentional,

802
00:42:56.079 --> 00:43:02.559
but it looked intentional to me. Easter from airplane in

803
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:07.519
this and it's when when the news casters broadcasting from

804
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:11.639
the plane and everyone knows that that that they're terrorists

805
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:14.000
and all this stuff's going on because they people in

806
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.199
the airport have not been told the truth about what's

807
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:18.599
happening at all. They've been just like like, oh, you know,

808
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:20.800
just we're having technical problems or whatever, and we'll get

809
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:23.159
it back online as soon as we can, and planes

810
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:24.920
will be arriving and you're not going to miss your

811
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:29.920
connections and whatever whatever. And uh, when people start panicking

812
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:34.639
and running out, they were running through the doors and

813
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.000
like the doors broke and people were falling on the

814
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:40.239
on the on the on the on the ground. There's

815
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:43.639
a scene an airplane where they're running and I think

816
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:45.800
they hit the doors and the whole like thing comes

817
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:50.559
down and then they keep running. Nobody falls though. An airplane,

818
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:54.599
an airplane, it looks it looks very similar an airplane.

819
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:58.639
We did Airplane sometime back. Airplane is based on another movie.

820
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:02.679
It was called Zero Hour. Yeah, and it's a satire

821
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:08.199
satire of Zero Hour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What else do

822
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.239
we want to say about this film before we wrap

823
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:14.079
it up? Did we see where it was shot? I

824
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:15.199
was gonna see if it's said.

825
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.320
I think it's right there where it says the one

826
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:25.639
more down, good, yeah, down, one more, one more. The

827
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:29.320
shooting was originally yeah, going to take place in Washington State.

828
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:33.119
Oh right, Yeah, and they but it was warm. It

829
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:33.760
was too warm.

830
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:36.199
They tried to find snow everywhere, and they were getting

831
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:37.480
snow trucked in from Canada.

832
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:40.039
Yes. And then when they were.

833
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:43.079
In Colorado for the snowmobile chase, Oh it got to

834
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:44.599
seventeen degrees.

835
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:48.840
Gets a fake snow when a massive blizzard of temperatures

836
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:51.920
will blow freezing swept the state and shooting got to

837
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:58.199
be shut down. Yeah, so that the Snowmobille sequence was

838
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:01.679
in Colorado, Yeah, where was really cold? They should just

839
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:03.440
have shown it. They should just have said it was

840
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:09.159
Denver because a port. Yeah, yeah, mile High, you know,

841
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:14.239
and that's where Holly McLean's family could have been from. Yeah,

842
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:15.960
they didn't have to be in d C. I mean,

843
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:18.440
I mean the only reason that it would be that

844
00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:20.440
they had used d C was that they were bringing

845
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:26.800
in this this fugitive dictator, drug lord general guy. Yeah,

846
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:28.159
so they had to set up that part of it.

847
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:33.280
He Uh, he had many roles to play, I guess, yeah,

848
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:39.480
fugitive drug lord, general, dictator, got dictator. Don't never forget

849
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:44.239
the dictator, all right. I say that we we throw

850
00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:46.599
a little rating on this sucker, and uh and I

851
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:48.800
try to come up with a way to rate it

852
00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:54.079
every time, like a A a unit of measurement, and uh,

853
00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:56.199
for this one, I think maybe it's going to be

854
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:05.360
ridiculously convenient. Ejection seats. I was gonna say, ejection seats.

855
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:07.880
There you go. Yes, what are we doing? One through five?

856
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:10.320
One through five? Yes, five is best, one is one

857
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.719
is worst? Oh man, I got to give this one

858
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:16.719
a three and a half. And I think it's just

859
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:19.960
because of those pace the pacing problems. Yeah, yeah, those.

860
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.360
Times where they had to add the little dialogue in

861
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:26.039
between the action scenes. It just chopped it up too slow.

862
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:27.239
Yeah. Yeah.

863
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.840
The other the other Diehards were almost perfect. I mean

864
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.480
Diehard with the Vengeance, the the in between action set

865
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.280
pieces were paced perfectly, so.

866
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:40.480
Comparing it to the first film. In the third film,

867
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:43.159
this one just moved too slow at some points. This

868
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:45.639
one was just over two hours. I'm curious about what

869
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:49.800
the what the first one and the third one were, Yeah,

870
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.880
link run time. Let me see two hours and twelve

871
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:56.880
minutes for the first one, but it was still tighter,

872
00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:02.159
and Vengeance is two hours and eight minutes. Yeah, so

873
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:05.840
this one's shorter, but things about it feel longer.

874
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:09.400
Yes, things about it feel longer in this one, and

875
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:11.360
so I had to That was one of the things

876
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:13.880
I was struggling with it was it was hard not

877
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:19.199
to let my focus wander when the pieces where they

878
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:21.000
were talking about the tower and how we're gonna get

879
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:23.400
the communication up would come up. It was hard not

880
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:25.880
to let my focus wander. It just got so out

881
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:27.719
of there. And then, as a fun thing, I watched

882
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:31.559
this the Diehard two yesterday in the afternoon, and then

883
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:33.360
die Hard with a Vengeance popped up on my you

884
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:35.800
should watch this fee and I watched it again. I

885
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:38.519
was like, this movie is just so I would give

886
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:40.000
that one a five out of five.

887
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:44.760
Yeah, yeah, I can't disagree with you there. Yeah, it's

888
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:47.599
it's it's a tighter film, even though it's a little

889
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:51.360
bit longer. The thing that the knock against three is

890
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:55.800
that it slices up New York in terms of travel

891
00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:57.840
time in ways that are impossible.

892
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:01.719
Yes, which is the fun part of it. They're running

893
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:05.199
through the parks, they're taking taxis through Central Park and

894
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:07.400
just to get you know, they're they're talking about how

895
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:09.920
you can't get you know, from downtown to uptown in

896
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:11.920
this amount of time, how impossible it's going to be.

897
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:14.599
And then everybody you know who's in New Yorker, who's

898
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.480
lived there the whole life, Samuel Jackson, Zeus and John McClain,

899
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:18.760
they're like, no, I know how to get there. We'll

900
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:20.760
do it this way, and they do it and it works.

901
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:23.599
The same is true of Bullet in San Francisco, same

902
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:26.840
is true of Collateral in La Like, even though it's

903
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:29.400
late at night, there's still no way you're getting around

904
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:32.039
that fast. Yeah, that's a weird movie too. I don't

905
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:34.960
know that that's not exactly a thriller, but that might

906
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.239
be one to talk about at some point. Yeah, for me,

907
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:39.039
if the three and a half is probably about right,

908
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:44.320
three three and a half is in ejection seats. It was.

909
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:48.960
It was better than I remembered it being, and I

910
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:51.599
this is one I don't think I ever I didn't

911
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:53.400
think I ever saw this one in the theater or anything.

912
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:58.079
I think I followed up years later to watch this one,

913
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:02.199
and I remember feeling like it wasn't as good as

914
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:04.320
the first one, which now I think it's it's in

915
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:07.239
some ways, you know, on a par it's it's more

916
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:11.840
ridiculous than the first one, for sure, but but it's

917
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:16.480
it's good. And that the ejection seat scene bothered me

918
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:20.440
more the first time because I didn't see it coming

919
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:23.400
and it looks terrible. This one, I knew it was coming,

920
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:27.000
and so it's like, oh, I see how they did that. Yeah. Yeah,

921
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:29.360
this was the first time I'd ever sat down and

922
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:33.239
watched this movie in its entirety. It's just funny since

923
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:34.559
you're such a fan of the third one.

924
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:38.039
Yeah, And the reason being is that I had thought

925
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:40.320
that I had seen this movie for a really long

926
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:43.679
time because it had always been on in syndication during

927
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:48.840
the holidays, and back then when TNTTBS, whatever Turner Network

928
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:51.639
was showing this during that period of time, they would

929
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:54.400
stretch the run time by breaking it up with a

930
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:57.280
bunch of commercials. So it ends up being like more

931
00:49:57.360 --> 00:49:59.360
like a three and a half to four hour movie.

932
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.880
So you're down and you're watching it progressively through like

933
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:04.760
a holiday, but then you're getting up to do things

934
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.280
and then you totally lose the movie. So I had

935
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:10.840
memories of watching this movie in bits and pieces in

936
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:13.239
the past. Some of it was really refreshing my memory.

937
00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:15.039
Oh maybe I'd seen this part, I'd seen this part,

938
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:17.639
but I'd never sat down and watched the whole thing

939
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:19.480
all the way to the end and saw the ending.

940
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:21.960
I'd never realized it. Kaye, motherfucker came.

941
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:25.000
From the end of the end of this movie.

942
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:27.719
Yeah, so that's because I mean back when we again,

943
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:29.639
when we were kids, the cool thing was finding like

944
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:32.440
t shirts with John McLain that said kaya you know,

945
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that was like counterculture thing in the nineties.

946
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Yeah, So it.

947
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Was really nice to finally watch it, and it was

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a lot better than I had remembered.

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The snippets being. But those again, those pacing issues really

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knocked it down for me. Yeah, all right, Josh, where

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can people find you?

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People can find me at Amazing j rab on Instagram

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or joshajar h a jja R on Facebook.

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I am at the Jim mcdeon all the social media.

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This show is fifty percent facts. For percent is the

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word of fifty six numbers, fifty recent facts of the

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Spreakerbrime podcast, associate with the art media on the Obscure

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Celebrity Network, and I will talk to you the next time.

959
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Thank you sir. That was fun. It was fun. Cheryl

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actually sat down and watched this with me, and she

961
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like she appreciated just the time capsule of it, you know.

962
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Oh yeah, that was one of the things.

963
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I was just how it was such a.

964
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Snippet of the early nineties. Yeah, if you want to

965
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do one for Christmas, scrooged have you ever seen the

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bill Murray Baby screwg Yeah, I am not my favorite

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Christmas very long time. Yeah, we do that one. Let's

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do that one for Christmas. The Film Festival last year