Fake fast food meat?
This week’s One Good Question actually comes from some comments on Mike’s Instagram.
Does a certain fast food restaurant use meat that’s not really meat? And is the occasional fast food meat not that big a deal?
Avi Lieu joins us for this one. You...
Does a certain fast food restaurant use meat that’s not really meat? And is the occasional fast food meat not that big a deal?
Avi Lieu joins us for this one. You can find her on Instagram @avi.lieu.
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0:11 Can we flame some people? I'll probably do it without names. This is the roast, dude, we should do a roast. You think you can hang? Oh my god, no, no, with each other? I think I could. I think I'm made for roast. I think I meant roasting like people on the discord. Have you seen have you seen those roasts? Maybe if you make me cry on the podcast, I'll get a lot of the probably would. There's some good roast, Like some of them are really bad because they're always like C tier comedians or whatever. But sometimes I'll have a hitter on there. And then sometimes they probably have ghost writers, but like, uh oh yeah they Shack and Snoop Dogg. They have some lines. Man, they're funny. They're really funny. And maybe they're funny too, but yeah, they probably have writers. But either way, some of their ship's really good. Yeah, yeah, excuse me. They absolutely have writers that like the roast test writers. Oh yeah, it's like it.
1:00 And then depending upon who you are celebrity wise, you may have your own writers as well. Yeah. Twitch did one with them or like, not Twitch in particular, but some Twitch streamers did them against each other. Was pretty good. I think they went and got writers and they like took it really serious, which is funny, and then they just started roasting each other. It's good, we could do it. No, I can't handle that. I'm pretty emotionally soft too. So I made a post a couple of weeks ago. I did a tier list on the best options of fast food when you're dieting or you're on the road. Yeah, oh no. Took a took a clip of that sea best do it on YouTube, doing on my Instagram, and people are saying, like I was given the worst advice ever, but like it should just be known now. I think, well, I think nothing's like set in stone right, like even the top nutritionists. And this goes for doctors, psychologists, pediatricians, whatever. Right, they don't all agree all right. That's called like white coat bias when you're just saying, like that guy's a doctor, he knows what he's talking about. Well he might, but he might not. His research now that says creating doesn't do anything right. So it's like who is right then, right? Does it or does it not? And that's gonna be away for a while. There's gonna be two camps that until more evidence comes out and maybe it sways to seventy thirty, but there's there's always a split and maybe it's ninety ten, right, maybe it's maybe it's ninety five five. But there's always gonna be other smart, intellectual, trained professionals that don't have the same opinion as an equal, right, That's how the game goes. So
2:30 a big one in nutrition and Internet, but even in general is like seed oils. Yeah, right, and so I posted I just said, like, Yo, Chick fil A's delicious, they're chicken nuggets. Macronutrients are pretty good. I think even in the long form video, I said, these probably don't have the micronutrients that we need, right, we probably shouldn't have thirty chicken nuggets every single day. I literally ate a pound of mixed veggies yesterday, Like I literally fucking did you know what I mean? But the point is like, and it's toilets. Toilet was cringing the whole time. It's done. Yeah, it's done for uh So like, yeah, what's right? So the other thing that's one big point that that all high level, very smart people don't agree. Second point is that at this level of the Internet, where the internet's not new, right, this bitch been around thirty forty years. It's been very common for twenty years, very fucking common.
3:24 Everyone's got the Internet now that taking things without context is not gonna not gonna go bode a good way. Right, So some people got in my comments and they weren't happy that I was promoting Chick fil A because they use seed oils. Yeah, you should go eat pizza instead, right, And and it's the same thing that happened, not as much anymore, but a decade ago um when I would drink energy drinks your pre workout and all the people would flame me. You, yeah, it's in there. Meanwhile, those people are out on the weekend having ten beers in a line of cocaine. Where I'm in bed at nine o'clock every night eating a pound of veggies fart in my ass off for health, you know, eating too many veggies is bad for you, probably probably, Yeah, seriously, Yeah, too much of anything, but a nice pound is good. It's like they're doing that while they're you know, enjoying burgers and fries and fried chicken literal or whatever. Whatever. Yeah, Like, if you there's no one out there professional or not PhD or not, that's eating perfectly. There's just it's literally impossible. You're gonna get your chicken from somewhere you don't actually know, and it probably has some shit in a weasel. Yeah, it could be a fucking rat. It could have mercury in it. We're talking about fast food, for God's sake, well even regular food. I'm thinking though, like, unless you grow that fucking shit yourself, you don't really know. Yeah, the same thing. You go to these professionals and they'll say, like organic, and then another justice qualified professionals say, no, organic, it's just the same. And then another justice exact professional will rip on frozen veggies, and someone of the same caliber or more intelligent will say, no, frozen veggies are great, right, Like we wash frozen so they have the
4:56 same, so frozen and whatever. Yeah, as far as I that's my personal pain, and from the smart folks that I tend to agree with, I think frozen veggies are great. A lot of people talk shit on them, but that's a whole another argument for another day. There's nothing wrong with you know what I mean though, so like, but there's just as many nutritionists and PhDs that say frozen veggies are trash. You got to eat non organic, non GMO this in that My point is that if you kind of the eighty twenty rule with life, right, or the moderation rule with life, if you're doing pretty good with most things, you're doing pretty good. This all buckles down to the real question of the day, and I think Avy's the only person that has the answer. What yeah, bump bump bum. I don't know if is this doxing? Do you know doxing is?
5:36 Doxing is when you like leak personal information. Okay, so I'm gonna dox you and Jim could at it out. But your family is in the food bizz. Oh yeah, so that's why you're in this. That's why this is the answer for you. Okay, is McDonald's real meat? Oh? What where is that for me? Because you're in the food biss when you're not in the food business. That has nothing to do with me. But um, I don't know. They keep they say that it wasn't before, now that it is or whatever? Right, Like you've seen what's the original pink Goo movie? Uh? Yeah, that turns out to fish food Inc? No, was it food Inc? Or was it the Fat Boy one? I don't supersize me, supersize me. I don't think it was in supersize me. I thought that was the pink goo. I don't know food Inc. Was good, right, Yeah, I watched I think I watched both of those in high school. What's the question, though, exactly is McDonald's rubbiah. Of course, it's real media. It's just that they've they've changed the quality recently, not better or worse. Better, Yeah, because like they're losing market share on on on flavor to really not not big competitors, but smaller competitors fast casual person their quality is getting better because of either.
6:46 Yeah, that's like a that's a comment I use often when I describe fast casual or fast food. I uh where I'm saying I like it. I just say it tastes like meat. Well, because like chicken nugets and McDonald's don't taste like meat. I love them. I love them. They don't, right, they don't taste like meat. Where you grab like a burger from In and Out, you can taste of beef. You grab a chicken from Chick fil A taste like beef, or taste like chicken. You grab a Chipotle taste like meat. However, I will say sometimes you just haven't hankering for non meat taste meat. No, that sounds weird. I love me a big mac. I love a big there's a time in place people talk about like, oh, you like talk about it's not even real fast or real Mexican everyone loves just sometimes you or Panda express. Okay, I'll use that because I'm Chinese, right, Yeah, that's good. It's not a real Chinese food or like I'm since I'm Chinese, I should say that it's not real and I should hate it. But like sometimes you just want non traditional whatever. Yeah, it's like if it's good, it tastes good. If you want a Chinese food, you gotta go to China.
7:51 Yeah. Yeah. However, if you want really good Chinese food, you kind of have to have it here. You gotta go to San Francisco because they because they the quality of the ingredients, it's different, you know, and and everything is sort of regionally adjusted by what's available. I The other big topic on McDonald's is going mini viral. Is the ingredients list on our fries versus the European fries. Yeah that McDonald's, uh yeah, in America, the chips in the UK the chips chips, kid, isn't that uh? In like the eighties, I think the eighties they stopped using beef talo and that's what made the fries so amazing. Yeah, Like there they have three or four ingredients and here supposed we have like eighteen nineteen, now they have. Now they use um canola oil, and canola oil just doesn't cook things the same way. And it's also like it's terrible for the internal environment.
8:48 It's probably just cheap, right, Yeah, it just it just puts a bunch of terrible cancer causing shit into the air to healthier is healthier? Right? Probably? Talo talo is probably more nutritious. It sounds terrible, but but it is like super flavor. That's where you get the soft inside crunching outside. Yeah, and so you'll get like a duck duck. So I think, yeah, I think the reason that there may be more I don't know if this is true, but if there are more chemicals in hours has to overcome that. Yeah, Yeah, to try to make better tasting fries just had better tasting. Was the last time you had McDonald's fries? I don't know. I did go to McDonald's sometimes in the last few weeks and it's not something I usually do, but I didn't get fries. I would probably say once a year, I'll probably you know, a little late night twenty Chicken Nuggie mcflurry. Dan. You know, I got a roommate named Dan, and sometimes we end up in his truck and end up in a driver. Why don't you swing by pick me up flurries? Low key thing. I'm about to make these Ninja mcflurries. Yeah. Well, I mean since I moved down here, I haven't had fast food almost crazy.
9:54 Yeah, seriously, the only thing we have downtown is Starbucks. And yeah, I was gonna say, let's to top it off, what's your favorite we'll go fast casual is involved as well, favorite fast casual fast food like binger, Like if you're just fucking going all out, dude, and then what's your order? I don't know, I haven't been in so long now, but you pulled the counter to Panda. Yeah, I haven't been those in a minute. What's screaming at you? Or like now, dude? Like I think Mendocino Farms, or a more common one is like a Jackson. You're gonna get a fucking salad no, I know, but I'm healthy now or whatever because of McDonald's fries. I was gonna say, it doesn't taste as good as they remember. Yeah, I remember Burger King fries absolutely ripping, and they're they're kind of mediocre. Yeah, I remember. I remember, excuse me, way back when Carl's Junior fries were formed potatoes instead of actual yellow skin on them. Yeah. I actually low key love Carl Junior. A double Western bacon cheese. Yeah, I know. If I'm gonna eat a burger out, it's usually a Carl Well yeah, double Western bacon chee ye. So so there is kind of an answer to your question, and that's the AP actually looked into this. They said that, um, the rumor is that McDonald's cheeseburger patties are made from pink slime. Yeah, which is a form of beef that contains a chemical called ammonium hydroxide.
11:16 And a piece assessment says that McDonald's stopped using the byproduct known in the industry as fine or lean finally takes your beef in twenty eleven. They stopped stopped. Interesting, well, the rumor followed them to talk the chicken uggies. I thought was Pinku, and I get it, like they're such a big business they need the preservatives and shit, I don't. I don't blame nobody. Where are you going? You're going to Mendocino Farms and get what at least the stake sandwich or something. I mean, I don't haven't. I haven't really indulged. I go to a restaurant if I do want to indulge, because there are so many good ones. Say you want to indulge right now, I've been cramp just talking about this morning. I do love sodium big. No one cares. The burrito wait heavier in the morning, and I'll feel like ship. I like a baked Chipotle burrito, large chips, large Nachi cheese that used to be like my little like reef eat mule, dude, I haven't had every time I had Chipole, It's almost like, okay, it's still fast food, but it is Chipole. So yeah.
12:18 There. But if I do want to indulge, like I haven't had a Chipole burrito in so long, we gotta get you dairy Queen. They've never had dry Queen. What I've never had it. I've seen the ads on like TV, and is it you could do the dipped cone. The calories are not that bad. It's like ten fat yeah, yeah, ten fat sixty cars. Donald's tones are good. They used to dip right, I swear. I don't know. I don't know where they did they maybe we've done it for a while. I loved dep cone for some reason. I was just a Mandela effect, you just remember. Yeah, it's definitely possible. I was just in Nova, Scotia and and we had um dipped cones and they were the worst. From where dairy Queen. No, it was from a company that that's kind of their thing, is dipped cones, and so they have a lot of different like flavor stuff like that. You're just doing too much thick. Oh, way too thick. Yeah, I feel like Derrey Queen has it right. Yeah, no, it needs looks good.
13:11 It's pretty thin. Yeah, you could bite it or lig it, right, it's good. This is like the first bite because it's so thick it cracks. Yeah, that is a texture issue. It is a texture issue. I think my favorite fast food or fast casual, and I don't think this is just West Coast, but it might be Jim you may know is food wreckers. I don't know where else is a food rucker had food Wreckers I've been. Oh no, it's definitely not it's definitely not uh side Route. It's definitely not local. Me and my mom just watched Idiocracy because she'd never seen it. But everyone's saying that's where the world's going. So Mom's like, we should watch it. So we watched it. You should watch it, you'll laugh. I don't have no. It's like Amazon Prime.
13:54 It's it's the same guy that did Office Space and she's probably never seen it. Office Space is good. Yeah, office Space you should watch too. But basically it's like a future telling comedy. So it's about the world in twenty five. Oh and it's Owen Wilson's brother Ian what's his name? And Wilson Luke Luke Wilson. Um. But there's food Ruckers there and they call it butt fuckers. I love it. Yeah. Where's there? Wherever they are? Yeah, I don't know where that place? Probably New York. So food Ruckers is like a fast, casual Chipotle style burger spot. Oh, we used to have one here, No, bro, there's one by Sunrise Mall. Used to go all the time. It doesn't exist anymore.
14:37 The only one in California right now is in Conquered, which which I just went to. Oh did you I used to go to that one after uh uh after after uh not just the last August uh me and Kyle stopped on the way back from the cal State Champs because he had never had it either. Oh okay, wait, so it's like a subway, but burger version. It's so much more. Is there is actually rip? They have like elk I mean like as in the process that you build. No, it's better than that. So it's more like you order your basic right. You go to the and they got like Ostrich Elk, regular burgers, cheeseburgers work. Okay, you should just started with there. They provide like different types of tons of different meats. You get that. You gotta get the fries because the fries bang, the milkshake bangs. Then you get it.
15:18 And it's more like a Korean barbecue or Brazilian barbecue where all the condiments insides are are buffet style, So you dress your own burger with as much tomato as less tomatoes you want, as many sauces as a little onion. You go out there and you dish it up and just like the quality taste so good. Elk is obviously super lean, so I love that. M dude, we could They used to have one a Fairfield that was the closest one after sunrise, and that might still be open um. According to the website, only the one and conquered. I wonder why they're good. I don't know the states that that flood Ruckers just in Arizona, California, just the one. Two there's two in Arizona, there are five in Florida. There's two in Georgia, two in the Louisiana, two in Massachusetts, which seems like an outlier, two in Michigan, one in Mississippi. Went in Missouri, two in Montana, two in Nevada. Yeah, probably probably want burger.
16:12 Nope, dude, food wreckers and you can do it's super healthy to New Jersey, for New Mexico, for Pennsylvania, one Puerto Rico. That's now the other outlines we get in and out or like smash like six guys Burgers and brew we could do six in South Carolina, went in Tennessee, and an absolute shit town in Texas, and a few in Virginia and Panama and Mexico and in Saskatchewan, Canada, there's a lot they're good, Okay, Regina, Regina. That's where um Tim his wife cheers from Regina. Yeah right, and all that was the thing? Regina Canada. Is that somewhere else or something else I've heard of Regina. It just means Queen.
16:56 It's a city in Canada. Anyways, spread wreckers, Burgers and brew. Five guys, what's your favorite fast food fast casual? Jim? If you're on a binger, not a hope guy, because a healthy guy you do with Chipotley Bowl or whatever. I know, I can't even My brain is so fun from that. I've been cutting like I don't even know. I would say, like, well, um, Jack's Urban Eats here, which is a very local, very local change. That's good, um, because yeah, it's all like good stuff. Yeah. Yeah, have you had there tried tip Sam? Yeah, I'm sure you have, for sure, Dude. That's probably go too. It's basically a Western bacon cheese, but it's tried tip. It's good. Yeah. They put cheddar cheese on it. Yeah, that's good. We've evolved this into a conversation about food, but I don't know where I don't know where we're gonna go anyways. Yeah.
17:37 McDonald's Israel, Meat Noe, Pink Goo. Where can they find you? Abby Um on Instagram at I'll be dot lou Ladies and Gentlemen. Brand new episodes Wednesday Friday. Stay tuned three sp dot CEO for all your clothing needs. I'm solid, Mike. Where you want to find me? Good company. Discord dot com can involve with the community and I'll see you in Discord. I am at the Jim McDean all those social media. This show is fifty percent facts worth percent. It's a word in fifty is us numbers facts A speaker, Prime Podcast, an association with I Heartmedia on the Obscure Celebrity Network and we'll talk to you next time. Yeah, yeah, we're going to sound there.
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