Fake fast food meat?

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Can we flame some people? I'll
probably do it without names. This is

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the roast, dude, we should
do a roast. You think you can

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hang? Oh my god, no, no, with each other? I

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think I could. I think I'm
made for roast. I think I meant

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roasting like people on the discord.
Have you seen have you seen those roasts?

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Maybe if you make me cry on
the podcast, I'll get a lot

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of the probably would. There's some
good roast, Like some of them are

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really bad because they're always like C
tier comedians or whatever. But sometimes I'll

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have a hitter on there. And
then sometimes they probably have ghost writers,

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but like, uh oh yeah they
Shack and Snoop Dogg. They have some

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lines. Man, they're funny.
They're really funny. And maybe they're funny

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too, but yeah, they probably
have writers. But either way, some

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of their ship's really good. Yeah, yeah, excuse me. They absolutely

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have writers that like the roast test
writers. Oh yeah, it's like it.

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And then depending upon who you are
celebrity wise, you may have your

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own writers as well. Yeah.
Twitch did one with them or like,

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not Twitch in particular, but some
Twitch streamers did them against each other.

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Was pretty good. I think they
went and got writers and they like took

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it really serious, which is funny, and then they just started roasting each

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other. It's good, we could
do it. No, I can't handle

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that. I'm pretty emotionally soft too. So I made a post a couple

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of weeks ago. I did a
tier list on the best options of fast

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food when you're dieting or you're on
the road. Yeah, oh no.

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Took a took a clip of that
sea best do it on YouTube, doing

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on my Instagram, and people are
saying, like I was given the worst

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advice ever, but like it should
just be known now. I think,

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well, I think nothing's like set
in stone right, like even the top

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nutritionists. And this goes for doctors, psychologists, pediatricians, whatever. Right,

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they don't all agree all right.
That's called like white coat bias when

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you're just saying, like that guy's
a doctor, he knows what he's talking

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about. Well he might, but
he might not. His research now that

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says creating doesn't do anything right.
So it's like who is right then,

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right? Does it or does it
not? And that's gonna be away for

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a while. There's gonna be two
camps that until more evidence comes out and

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maybe it sways to seventy thirty,
but there's there's always a split and maybe

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it's ninety ten, right, maybe
it's maybe it's ninety five five. But

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there's always gonna be other smart,
intellectual, trained professionals that don't have the

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same opinion as an equal, right, That's how the game goes. So

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a big one in nutrition and Internet, but even in general is like seed

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oils. Yeah, right, and
so I posted I just said, like,

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Yo, Chick fil A's delicious,
they're chicken nuggets. Macronutrients are pretty

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good. I think even in the
long form video, I said, these

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probably don't have the micronutrients that we
need, right, we probably shouldn't have

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thirty chicken nuggets every single day.
I literally ate a pound of mixed veggies

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yesterday, Like I literally fucking did
you know what I mean? But the

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point is like, and it's toilets. Toilet was cringing the whole time.

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It's done. Yeah, it's done
for uh So like, yeah, what's

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right? So the other thing that's
one big point that that all high level,

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very smart people don't agree. Second
point is that at this level of

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the Internet, where the internet's not
new, right, this bitch been around

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thirty forty years. It's been very
common for twenty years, very fucking common.

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Everyone's got the Internet now that taking
things without context is not gonna not

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gonna go bode a good way.
Right, So some people got in my

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comments and they weren't happy that I
was promoting Chick fil A because they use

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seed oils. Yeah, you should
go eat pizza instead, right, And

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and it's the same thing that happened, not as much anymore, but a

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decade ago um when I would drink
energy drinks your pre workout and all the

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people would flame me. You,
yeah, it's in there. Meanwhile,

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those people are out on the weekend
having ten beers in a line of cocaine.

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Where I'm in bed at nine o'clock
every night eating a pound of veggies

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fart in my ass off for health, you know, eating too many veggies

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is bad for you, probably probably, Yeah, seriously, Yeah, too

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much of anything, but a nice
pound is good. It's like they're doing

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that while they're you know, enjoying
burgers and fries and fried chicken literal or

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whatever. Whatever. Yeah, Like, if you there's no one out there

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professional or not PhD or not,
that's eating perfectly. There's just it's literally

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impossible. You're gonna get your chicken
from somewhere you don't actually know, and

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it probably has some shit in a
weasel. Yeah, it could be a

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fucking rat. It could have mercury
in it. We're talking about fast food,

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for God's sake, well even regular
food. I'm thinking though, like,

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unless you grow that fucking shit yourself, you don't really know. Yeah,

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the same thing. You go to
these professionals and they'll say, like

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organic, and then another justice qualified
professionals say, no, organic, it's

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just the same. And then another
justice exact professional will rip on frozen veggies,

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and someone of the same caliber or
more intelligent will say, no,

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frozen veggies are great, right,
Like we wash frozen so they have the

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same, so frozen and whatever.
Yeah, as far as I that's my

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personal pain, and from the smart
folks that I tend to agree with,

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I think frozen veggies are great.
A lot of people talk shit on them,

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but that's a whole another argument for
another day. There's nothing wrong with

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you know what I mean though,
so like, but there's just as many

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nutritionists and PhDs that say frozen veggies
are trash. You got to eat non

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organic, non GMO this in that
My point is that if you kind of

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the eighty twenty rule with life,
right, or the moderation rule with life,

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if you're doing pretty good with most
things, you're doing pretty good.

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This all buckles down to the real
question of the day, and I think

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Avy's the only person that has the
answer. What yeah, bump bump bum.

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I don't know if is this doxing? Do you know doxing is?

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Doxing is when you like leak personal
information. Okay, so I'm gonna dox

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you and Jim could at it out. But your family is in the food

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bizz. Oh yeah, so that's
why you're in this. That's why this

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is the answer for you. Okay, is McDonald's real meat? Oh?

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What where is that for me?
Because you're in the food biss when you're

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not in the food business. That
has nothing to do with me. But

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um, I don't know. They
keep they say that it wasn't before,

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now that it is or whatever?
Right, Like you've seen what's the original

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pink Goo movie? Uh? Yeah, that turns out to fish food Inc?

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No, was it food Inc?
Or was it the Fat Boy one?

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I don't supersize me, supersize me. I don't think it was in

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supersize me. I thought that was
the pink goo. I don't know food

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Inc. Was good, right,
Yeah, I watched I think I watched

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both of those in high school.
What's the question, though, exactly is

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McDonald's rubbiah. Of course, it's
real media. It's just that they've they've

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changed the quality recently, not better
or worse. Better, Yeah, because

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like they're losing market share on on
on flavor to really not not big competitors,

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but smaller competitors fast casual person their
quality is getting better because of either.

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Yeah, that's like a that's a
comment I use often when I describe

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fast casual or fast food. I
uh where I'm saying I like it.

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I just say it tastes like meat. Well, because like chicken nugets and

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McDonald's don't taste like meat. I
love them. I love them. They

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don't, right, they don't taste
like meat. Where you grab like a

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burger from In and Out, you
can taste of beef. You grab a

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chicken from Chick fil A taste like
beef, or taste like chicken. You

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grab a Chipotle taste like meat.
However, I will say sometimes you just

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haven't hankering for non meat taste meat. No, that sounds weird. I

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love me a big mac. I
love a big there's a time in place

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people talk about like, oh,
you like talk about it's not even real

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fast or real Mexican everyone loves just
sometimes you or Panda express. Okay,

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I'll use that because I'm Chinese,
right, Yeah, that's good. It's

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not a real Chinese food or like
I'm since I'm Chinese, I should say

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that it's not real and I should
hate it. But like sometimes you just

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want non traditional whatever. Yeah,
it's like if it's good, it tastes

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good. If you want a Chinese
food, you gotta go to China.

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Yeah. Yeah. However, if
you want really good Chinese food, you

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kind of have to have it here. You gotta go to San Francisco because

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they because they the quality of the
ingredients, it's different, you know,

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and and everything is sort of regionally
adjusted by what's available. I The other

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big topic on McDonald's is going mini
viral. Is the ingredients list on our

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fries versus the European fries. Yeah
that McDonald's, uh yeah, in America,

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the chips in the UK the chips
chips, kid, isn't that uh?

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In like the eighties, I think
the eighties they stopped using beef talo

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and that's what made the fries so
amazing. Yeah, Like there they have

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three or four ingredients and here supposed
we have like eighteen nineteen, now they

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have. Now they use um canola
oil, and canola oil just doesn't cook

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things the same way. And it's
also like it's terrible for the internal environment.

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It's probably just cheap, right,
Yeah, it just it just puts

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a bunch of terrible cancer causing shit
into the air to healthier is healthier?

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Right? Probably? Talo talo is
probably more nutritious. It sounds terrible,

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but but it is like super flavor. That's where you get the soft inside

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crunching outside. Yeah, and so
you'll get like a duck duck. So

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I think, yeah, I think
the reason that there may be more I

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don't know if this is true,
but if there are more chemicals in hours

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has to overcome that. Yeah,
Yeah, to try to make better tasting

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fries just had better tasting. Was
the last time you had McDonald's fries?

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I don't know. I did go
to McDonald's sometimes in the last few weeks

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and it's not something I usually do, but I didn't get fries. I

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would probably say once a year,
I'll probably you know, a little late

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night twenty Chicken Nuggie mcflurry. Dan. You know, I got a roommate

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named Dan, and sometimes we end
up in his truck and end up in

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a driver. Why don't you swing
by pick me up flurries? Low key

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thing. I'm about to make these
Ninja mcflurries. Yeah. Well, I

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mean since I moved down here,
I haven't had fast food almost crazy.

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Yeah, seriously, the only thing
we have downtown is Starbucks. And yeah,

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I was gonna say, let's to
top it off, what's your favorite

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we'll go fast casual is involved as
well, favorite fast casual fast food like

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binger, Like if you're just fucking
going all out, dude, and then

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what's your order? I don't know, I haven't been in so long now,

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but you pulled the counter to Panda. Yeah, I haven't been those

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in a minute. What's screaming at
you? Or like now, dude?

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Like I think Mendocino Farms, or
a more common one is like a Jackson.

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You're gonna get a fucking salad no, I know, but I'm healthy

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now or whatever because of McDonald's fries. I was gonna say, it doesn't

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taste as good as they remember.
Yeah, I remember Burger King fries absolutely

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ripping, and they're they're kind of
mediocre. Yeah, I remember. I

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remember, excuse me, way back
when Carl's Junior fries were formed potatoes instead

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of actual yellow skin on them.
Yeah. I actually low key love Carl

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Junior. A double Western bacon cheese. Yeah, I know. If I'm

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gonna eat a burger out, it's
usually a Carl Well yeah, double Western

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bacon chee ye. So so there
is kind of an answer to your question,

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and that's the AP actually looked into
this. They said that, um,

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the rumor is that McDonald's cheeseburger patties
are made from pink slime. Yeah,

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which is a form of beef that
contains a chemical called ammonium hydroxide.

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And a piece assessment says that McDonald's
stopped using the byproduct known in the industry

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as fine or lean finally takes your
beef in twenty eleven. They stopped stopped.

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Interesting, well, the rumor followed
them to talk the chicken uggies.

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I thought was Pinku, and I
get it, like they're such a big

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business they need the preservatives and shit, I don't. I don't blame nobody.

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Where are you going? You're going
to Mendocino Farms and get what at

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least the stake sandwich or something.
I mean, I don't haven't. I

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haven't really indulged. I go to
a restaurant if I do want to indulge,

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because there are so many good ones. Say you want to indulge right

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now, I've been cramp just talking
about this morning. I do love sodium

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big. No one cares. The
burrito wait heavier in the morning, and

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I'll feel like ship. I like
a baked Chipotle burrito, large chips,

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large Nachi cheese that used to be
like my little like reef eat mule,

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dude, I haven't had every time
I had Chipole, It's almost like,

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okay, it's still fast food,
but it is Chipole. So yeah.

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There. But if I do want
to indulge, like I haven't had a

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Chipole burrito in so long, we
gotta get you dairy Queen. They've never

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had dry Queen. What I've never
had it. I've seen the ads on

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like TV, and is it you
could do the dipped cone. The calories

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are not that bad. It's like
ten fat yeah, yeah, ten fat

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sixty cars. Donald's tones are good. They used to dip right, I

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swear. I don't know. I
don't know where they did they maybe we've

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done it for a while. I
loved dep cone for some reason. I

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was just a Mandela effect, you
just remember. Yeah, it's definitely possible.

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I was just in Nova, Scotia
and and we had um dipped cones

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and they were the worst. From
where dairy Queen. No, it was

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from a company that that's kind of
their thing, is dipped cones, and

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so they have a lot of different
like flavor stuff like that. You're just

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doing too much thick. Oh,
way too thick. Yeah, I feel

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like Derrey Queen has it right.
Yeah, no, it needs looks good.

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It's pretty thin. Yeah, you
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right, it's good. This is
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it cracks. Yeah, that is
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issue. I think my favorite fast
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think this is just West Coast,
but it might be Jim you may know

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is food wreckers. I don't know
where else is a food rucker had food

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Wreckers I've been. Oh no,
it's definitely not it's definitely not uh side

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Route. It's definitely not local.
Me and my mom just watched Idiocracy because

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she'd never seen it. But everyone's
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Mom's like, we should watch it. So we watched it. You should

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watch it, you'll laugh. I
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It's it's the same guy that did
Office Space and she's probably never seen

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it. Office Space is good.
Yeah, office Space you should watch too.

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But basically it's like a future telling
comedy. So it's about the world

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in twenty five. Oh and it's
Owen Wilson's brother Ian what's his name?

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And Wilson Luke Luke Wilson. Um. But there's food Ruckers there and they

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call it butt fuckers. I love
it. Yeah. Where's there? Wherever

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they are? Yeah, I don't
know where that place? Probably New York.

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So food Ruckers is like a fast, casual Chipotle style burger spot.

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Oh, we used to have one
here, No, bro, there's one

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by Sunrise Mall. Used to go
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The only one in California right now
is in Conquered, which which I

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just went to. Oh did you
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uh uh after after uh not just
the last August uh me and Kyle stopped

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on the way back from the cal
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either. Oh okay, wait,
so it's like a subway, but burger

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version. It's so much more.
Is there is actually rip? They have

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like elk I mean like as in
the process that you build. No,

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it's better than that. So it's
more like you order your basic right.

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You go to the and they got
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work. Okay, you should just
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types of tons of different meats.
You get that. You gotta get the

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fries because the fries bang, the
milkshake bangs. Then you get it.

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And it's more like a Korean barbecue
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are are buffet style, So you
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as less tomatoes you want, as
many sauces as a little onion. You

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go out there and you dish it
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good. Elk is obviously super lean, so I love that. M dude,

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we could They used to have one
a Fairfield that was the closest one

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after sunrise, and that might still
be open um. According to the website,

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only the one and conquered. I
wonder why they're good. I don't

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know the states that that flood Ruckers
just in Arizona, California, just the

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one. Two there's two in Arizona, there are five in Florida. There's

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two in Georgia, two in the
Louisiana, two in Massachusetts, which seems

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like an outlier, two in Michigan, one in Mississippi. Went in Missouri,

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two in Montana, two in Nevada. Yeah, probably probably want burger.

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Nope, dude, food wreckers and
you can do it's super healthy to

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New Jersey, for New Mexico,
for Pennsylvania, one Puerto Rico. That's

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now the other outlines we get in
and out or like smash like six guys

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Burgers and brew we could do six
in South Carolina, went in Tennessee,

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and an absolute shit town in Texas, and a few in Virginia and Panama

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and Mexico and in Saskatchewan, Canada, there's a lot they're good, Okay,

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Regina, Regina. That's where um
Tim his wife cheers from Regina.

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Yeah right, and all that was
the thing? Regina Canada. Is that

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somewhere else or something else I've heard
of Regina. It just means Queen.

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It's a city in Canada. Anyways, spread wreckers, Burgers and brew.

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Five guys, what's your favorite fast
food fast casual? Jim? If you're

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on a binger, not a hope
guy, because a healthy guy you do

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with Chipotley Bowl or whatever. I
know, I can't even My brain is

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so fun from that. I've been
cutting like I don't even know. I

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would say, like, well,
um, Jack's Urban Eats here, which

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is a very local, very local
change. That's good, um, because

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yeah, it's all like good stuff. Yeah. Yeah, have you had

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there tried tip Sam? Yeah,
I'm sure you have, for sure,

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Dude. That's probably go too.
It's basically a Western bacon cheese, but

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it's tried tip. It's good.
Yeah. They put cheddar cheese on it.

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Yeah, that's good. We've evolved
this into a conversation about food,

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but I don't know where I don't
know where we're gonna go anyways. Yeah.

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