Dec. 29, 2023

How important is nutrition in powerlifting? | Topic Thunder

How important is nutrition in powerlifting? | Topic Thunder

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What role have we given nutrition in our powerlifting careers? When did lifters switch from trying to be as big as possible and eating a...

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What role have we given nutrition in our powerlifting careers? When did lifters switch from trying to be as big as possible and eating a ton to being strong at “normal” body weights? Is it more about performance or feeling good.

We also discuss the fact that strength and effort are both normally distributed -- not just in the general population but also in niche places like top powerlifting gyms.

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Yeah, get y'all with the yo
yo. Welcome back to topic. Thunder

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Ah got him my debut. Yeah, some power one oh six hip hop

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radio. He's been waiting. We
need to get all those. Yeah,

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they have all the corny ones,
like the horn, the Jamaican horn,

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a couple of shitty laughs the nineties. Those would be good or just like

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any snippets like we could do that
easily. Yeah, you get like Kanye

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saying some crazy ship and just put
him on rip. You know, we

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got turntables in the back. See
you guys just mixing our voices. I

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saw by a quick Sandi. I
sawd them right before we opened the gym.

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I should have brought him in here, but we didn't have the gym

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yet. Cop love that ky buzzing
down fresh mixes every morning. Didn't plug

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it into that things from eight thirty
twelve to two cows, fresh mixing every

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day. Ain't no one working out. We got like we had a club

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now we had a club room is
just like maure in the front. Yeah,

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that's what our whole stupid gym is. Already You ready for the question

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of the day. Did It's probably
gonna start with the young kids, so

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incorporating a healthy lifestyle extends well beyond
the working out right. Nutrition is the

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hardest part. It's a big part
of if you actually want to see results

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in whatever you do. So you
just want to like feel good, look

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better, Like that's the right.
Most people go to the gym for that,

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and then as you mature, hopefully
it you know, goes into extending

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and a functionality or whatever. But
who knows what role does nutrition play with

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y'all? Because powerlifting in particular,
I feel like a lot of people get

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into it because and people say this
over and over day to watch fucking Goku

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or they wanted a body build,
but they love food too much that the

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intricate the intertwining of like foodies and
powerlifting is a super interesting thing that we've

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never really touched on. Yeah,
it's the power of even be fat can

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eat right, Like Yeah, obviously
just weigh classes, and as we're getting

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more competitive, more people pay attention
to that, even the casuals because obviously

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the higher level lifters have to.
But a lot of folks find this sport

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because they just like food so much, and then they find a way to

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make it work or they'll intertwine it
a little bit until you get really good

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and then and then you kind of
got to lock in and not. But

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even still there's kind of that foody
background. How about y'all, Like you

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all are pretty competitive and you guys
are very into it. Does it say

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like, damn, I'm not gonna
eat donuts for six months? Like does

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it play that much of a role
or not. It just I just want

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to feel better. I think I
want to feel like a kind of like

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an athlete, kind of how you
used to do it. But back in

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the days, yeah, I mean
I was locked the fucking yeah bit like

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I went I went five years,
no drinks back in my food for five

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years straight. I don't do that. Yeah, like every meal, Like

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I went crazy because the top was
like closer. Yeah. So not to

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say like I was a top powerlifter, but like I think on my second

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meet, I was top twenty in
the year in the world. All Feds

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god, you know, Like and
obviously the pool was small. There's only

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three thousand people powerlifting and now there's
one hundred thousand people powerlifting, so and

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the FEDS were different, but we
did have a website that would show that,

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and like my squad was top twenty. I think my total was top

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twenty five. I mean it's important
for sure. I think I took it

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more when I needed to grow when
I was like one ten, twig and

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then I went one seventy five and
now you're one forty shit one ten.

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Yeah, if I saw you,
then holy it's like Dylan Daling one ten,

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No way, what is he?
I think twenty five it's basically the

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same. Shit. It's crazy dog, I want to get bigger. And

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I think he like one two yeah, yeah, say once he five at

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least five. But like, I
think I took it more serious when I

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there was the goal of like,
oh I need to change my body once

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you kind of sit in it as
a powerlift, you like, as long

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as you get protein and everything else. But even knowing that, I feels

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like yah, like back of the
day, like yeah would slam protein shakes

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and ship but their actual knowledge on
nutrition was so bad and they would just

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chug beers. We talked about a
separate podcast where like having beers in the

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Yeah, like workouts was like kind
of normal because it was kind of like

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a blue collar just got off work
like hangout session strong. Yeah, kind

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of like that was kind of like
the culture and it still is in some

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parts, but very common to you
know, kind of like you would go

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and play golf, like power of
the thing was more like golf than it

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was bodybuilding back in the day.
Yeah, and well Highland Games for sure

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is golf with throwing things. Literally, yeah it has been yeah yeah strong

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Man. Yeah, strong Man.
I just feel like probably still is.

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Obviously the Brian Shaw isn't doing that, but any mid level guy is,

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and and then the top guys and
strong men probably were back in the day.

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Strongman is the new It's funniest because
it is the newest sport out of

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them all, you know. In
the eighties, like it literally it wasn't

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such thing. It was just like
a have you guys watched those the seventies

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and eighties strong man where you should? It's literally like not Arnold but Frankel

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Colombo bodybuilder. Yeah, offensive lineman
from the Chicago Bears. Another lineman just

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a big fuck like a bouncer.
You know. It's like just random dudes

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and then they just make them go
do random shit. It was kind of

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like early days MMA, like a
WWE wrestler, Yeah, exactly, shit

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like that. Yeah, you just
grab big fuck, say all right,

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which big fuck is the biggest of
fucks? I like that. Yeah,

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No, it was cool. It
was almost cooler than now because no one

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was specialized. And that's why like
early UFC Pride, early MMA at school

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is like, all right, we
have one hundred and eighty pound like karate,

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we have one hundred and ninety pounds
jiu jitsu, and we have a

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two hundred and twenty pound boxer who
would actually whoop ass. Yeah, and

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you find out who's the biggest ass
whooper yeah, yeah, and you're never

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gonna replicate that, right, yeah, because everyone's like not as specialized anymore,

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and then we already know, like
it's obviously more dangerous as well,

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But it was kind of fun because
now, yeah, I feel like on

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any level, like even the intermediate
powerlift for body, they're strong man knows

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about nutrition is locked in at least
somewhat, Like you even said, like

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I'm not like Dane, I was
like, but I get my protein,

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yeah, because like everyone's doing that. There's always like nah, not everyone,

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not even people don't even people don't
even track their protein. I don't

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know if they track it, but
they have the knowledge to do it.

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They know that they need protein and
they know they need about a gram per

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body. Wait, sure the execution
has more to do with if you're successful

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or not. Yeah, yeah,
well that's why not everyone's jacked. But

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people are on a program which wasn't
a thing. People are. We're always

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watching the craziest h shut of my
boy. Train Wrecks is the biggest like

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podcast on live streaming. Who had
me on multiple years ago and his coach

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was talking about Windler's five three one
and this guy works in tech marketing way

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lateral Wendler's five three one was like, I mean, we've had dinner with

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Wendler, Like Jim knows Wendler like
that. That's very niche, a niche.

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He's a west side lifter throwback,
Yeah, he's a west side lifter.

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Like it's so different, and so
for that to be mainstay knowledge,

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I guess My point is the core
knowledge of anyone in our space is way

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elevated then back then, yeah,
and way elevated even to the norm pop.

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You know, I dare say the
knowledge is up, but the intensity

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and the effort is down. Yeah
maybe maybe, but back then there's fucks

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around too, you know, I
think there's around. But we were in

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the strongest gym on the planet,
the most popular gym on the planet,

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and we had and half the team
was still pieces of shit that didn't work

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out hard, didn't eat, didn't
you know what I mean? Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, well yeah,
we had, you know, five guys

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that are squad one thousand pounds and
two or three guys that are all time

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world record holders, and a lot
of guys you know, everyone's dead lifting

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six hundred seven hundred pounds, and
yeah, always a side that trained with

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us or around us that didn't do
shit. Yeah, it's always like that.

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I think it's always like that.
So everything's somewhat normally distributed, even

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in an environment that's supposed to be
elevated. You know. Yeah, they

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still had the guts to show up
to the like hardcore gyms or whatever.

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Now everyone's been into like a warehouse
crossing nostalgym. But back then, I

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mean, I have stories. I've
probably told them podcasts the gym, but

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maybe you guys didn't know where super
training was in this building. And I

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would drive around the block contemplating.
I obviously have anxiety issues too, but

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I would drive around the block multiple
times to see if I'm even gonna go

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step foot in there. I can
remember hearing that for like six months,

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not on just the first day,
the first day for sure, but multiple

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times I didn't see enough cars They're
like, well I don't want to go

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in yet. I would circle,
you know. And I have that instance

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a lot of times in my life. How you know gas was cheap,

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That's how you know I got mental
issues. Mental issues are beyond gas price.

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I had a four cylinder at the
time where I ain't driving around no

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block about yeah, five dollar gall
on the park up in the park now

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off driving around though it was forciately
it was the GTI no matter. So

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I had that, And before I
stepped foot in the building, I had

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a five hundred pounds squad and a
five fifty dead looks damn okay, right,

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and you're still still scared. Yeah, let alone. Some fucks would

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just walk right in. Some ship
heads, no, even in our day,

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they would walk right in, not
even think about it. Pull three

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fifteen, go chuck beers, be
fat, never show up whatever, you

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know what I mean? Yeah,
I think's right. The Bell curve is

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always, It's always, It's just
different it's always there different environment that is

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supposed to be elevated. We had
a guy in here before you, somebody

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that I still it's still on Facebook. I know what he's doing whatever.

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He moved to UH to Chicago,
and he was like, he looked like

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he was in pretty good shape,
but he was not strong, like at

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all. It was astonishing how not
strong he was. For somebody who had

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his you know, as much lean
muscle as this guy. He just said,

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it's like, what the hell,
He's a lot stronger now and he's

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like he's a physique competitor and ship
whatever he found out he found he's like,

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I can't live. I gotta go
long sports. I gotta go on

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and looks because I can't get there
on strength. Yeah, but it was

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I don't know, there were a
lot of there were a lot of folks

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who just didn't who just were not
that strong. I was never, you

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know, even closer to being in
the mid level of strength in that group.

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But I was also old, and
so I said fuck it a lot.

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But it was always astonishing when someone
who was looked like they could possibly

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have been strong where they were at
least big and there's nothing you know,

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like I can't bench press two plates. Like now we're in the look smaller

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small yeah, yeah but even still
Yeah, it's coin flip. It's all

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Bill Kirvey, that's true, all
right, all right? Instagram, Matt

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unders oh gi plug all of them? You have six? I literally got

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two. I got two. What's
the difference between the two of them?

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On post videos vlogs? Another one
branding branding, branding, branding. I

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was just hoping that like one of
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naked shots and other wars. One
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Another ones you know, the one
I shared with my friends and family.

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All right, okay, oh for
me? Yeah, okay, Like

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they don't need one too. They
don't need the the four o'clock squad angle

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looking at my Uchi shorts. They
can get the I just went Ohaii photos.

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