How long are plateaus supposed to last? | Topic Thunder
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Today’s question is really a general one about plateaus. Can you...
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Today’s question is really a general one about plateaus. Can you know when they’re going to happen? How do you get past them?
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0:10 Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another Topic Thunder. This show is brought to you by Legion Athletics. If you want to check out Legion supplements right now for the winter, we got a bo go so buy one, get one fifty percent off use code Good Company. It's a highly, highly evidence based formula. Whether you guys want to deal with some pre workout. One of my stim free pre workouts is my favorite from them. The protein is super solid. All the health and wellness supplements you may or may not need Legion Athletics, Code Good Company. Let's dive into the video Topic Thunders, where we take your questions and we answer them as fast as we can in five to ten minutes. And this one is about deadlists in particular. But I think we'll stretch it out and we'll transform this man's questions. What is the biggest plateau period of deadlifts? So maybe what's the biggest plateau you went through?
0:55 How'd you fix it? How did you not fix it? It's gonna happen, Barrel, I think my biggest I've benched three fifteen. I swear to God for like three years straight. Yeah, and just wouldn't go really Yeah, I just wouldn't go that. Probably like twenty to twenty two. I think I benched three thirty in my first power lifting meat, But previous to that, I was, Yeah, I was benching. I swear three to fifteen forever. Is it something about the arrangement of the plates? Sometimes I think that there's for sure, logical thing is around that for sure. And then and then like Ego and back in the day when we lifted, like you didn't really use two and a half and fives. You know, you're trying to jump a ten or it's not really worth it. Plus I was trying to stay in away class, and I'm in my early twenties when I probably should have been growing. Plus, programming was all over the place.
1:38 I'm, you know, benching off four boards because everyone else is fucking in a T shirt or a bench shirt and everyone's doing floor press, which isn't a bad movement, but probably not what I needed as a raw lifter. I probably needed to build some musclims from full range. And everyone I'm training with is yeah, literally everyone was in a shirt that was training with the only one wasn't Spence and he didn't really train with me, so right, Yeah, so it was all a make sure all of that, and then the dynamic days in the West Side are probably a little bit too light for a guy that's training raw because bench shirt guys would use their bench max on a d LO day, so it makes more sense or on a dynamic day and a raw guy would. But then the percentages are way light, so all of it didn't really make sense. Wasn't eat enough and other plateaus.
2:22 I mean, I guess now you could call it a plateau, but I'm just not chasing prs, Like I haven't hit a PR lifetime lifetime in probably five years, but I'm not chasing them either, so I wouldn't really call it a plateau. Old yeah, yeah, no, I'm not that old bro. I mean, some of the biggest squats ever been broken. I bet if we looked at ages of all time world records from the nineties, I bet they're on I bet you the average is probably forty two. It could really be possible mid thirties. I bet off the top of my head. You still have a chance, no now though, yeah, Like obviously I don't know if you go untested tested maybe yeah, if you'll untested, I think, because then it's just years and not getting injured. It's just years and not getting injured, and there is like some grown man strength, real shit, you know, and having a routine in your life.
3:07 In your twenties, you're drinking and fucking round and if you lock in, like I bet ed CON's best stuff's probably in his mid to late thirties. He's obviously just won. Dan Bell's a little bit older than me, maybe around my age. He, you know, broke all time world records, probably thirty seven. I forgot who the biggest name was. It might have been one of the first thousand pounds squads. I forgot in the nineties. I don't think it was half filled, but somebody like squaded their first thousand of age forty five. Yeah no, you plateau issues. You haven't even doing it long enough. No, yeah, no, not really. I guess i'd be bench. Yeah, we're in programming, and stuff's just gotten better. Bench is obviously harder, right, It's adding ten pounds to a bench by percentage is much more difficult than adding ten pounds a year. Squad or deadloft kind of anyone, especially lightweight dude. I think that you know, for me, like breaking five hundred was was hard. I sat under five hundred for quite a while. No bench, I don't see me bench DEADLIFTAFT. I think that's the hardest plateau for people's four to five hundred.
4:05 I don't know. That was so easy for me because I was so isolated. I was training commercial gyms on X plates. I was really angry, and so I'm listening to fucking eminem all day. Every day I pulled. I think I pulled three fifteen the first time ever deadlift, and I swear to guy, within two years I probably pulled five hundred, and then five twenty five came down here at pulled five forty five. First meet, I pulled six hundred or five ninety four. Second meet, pulled about six twenty. And obviously I'm yeah, just kind of brute strength that way. My form was pretty bad, but bodyweight matters to right. I was one hundred and ninety pounds in year, like you're like one hundred and ten or something. Damn one. I busted six hundred into meat and I don't think I ever pulled six hundred in training ever ever. Ever. Didn't know I could do it, just did it. Yeah. Yeah, the adrenaline was a little different meats fired up, you have your plateau and check your calories.
4:58 It's gonna be a big thing. You bear at least got to be consistent at maintenance programming is obviously a very big thing. Yeah, variations can help any kind of program. It almost doesn't matter. I know people talk shit on cookie cutter programs and all this, but anything with the solid progression that you can follow and stop thinking and stop double guessing yourself, you're gonna get better at. And the truth is, yeah, alcohol, smoking pot, whatever you guys are doing is probably not helping. I'm not saying it's hindering, but it's definitely not helping. So sleep, maintenance calories, if not extra calories, and then following some real progression. And I don't mean for like two weeks. I'm talking like minimum twelve weeks, which should keep you from testing too often, because I think that, hopefully, I think that plateaus and testing too often kind of stick together because you're always did I ever?
5:45 Can I can I bench for plates? Now? Can I bench for plates? Now? Can I ben? Yeah? Yeah? Rather than taking your time hitting three seventy five, three forty five or three eighty five ninety five yeap et cetera, et cetera. Constant overshooting, Yeah yeah, yeah, but even overshooting is better like then like truly testing, right, because if you have like an RP eight single and you hit RP nine, like, you're still fine, You're in the ballpark, you know. But if you're like testing every day, like Jim said, like because you get fixated on these numbers. I want to deadlift five, I want to bench three fifteen, like, you get fixated that, so then you're making them wrong jumps to get there, you know. Yeah, but even like if you have like an RP five, motherfuckers would be like, oh well yeah, but then but I guarantee it there, it's still better than testing. Even if you have an RPA five prescribed and you hit an RP eight, it's better than like testing because it's the amount of jumps you make. And then if you're missing over and over, you get no work done. If you like go for a four or five bench, you miss it, and what are you gonna do after? Yeah, you ain't gonna have good drop sets.
6:40 You ain't gonna have your top single, and then you ain't gonna have good drop sets, and then you're just quit and then you're gonna repeat it next year. Cry still bench four A five one day, dude, It's possible. It's possible. It's not. What do you bench now? Okay, hop on some gear? Hey, Jesus, is that you they're talking to you? Do they're talking to you? Jesus? That signal the needle in my own I woke up at one eighty five. Oh man, it's they want you to do it. The people have spoke in the spirits, like you said, with the right amount of money, I'll do it.
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