How should we judge the judges?

0:07 Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to this week. It'll be a week before Thanksgiving. Yeah, I love Thanksgiving. Sports are going crazy. King's got a nice win. Thanksgiving. It's probably my favorite holiday. Yeah, yeah, probably, I mean it's food based. I think it's probably my favorite holiday too, just because like Christmas song is always a disappointment. Y's. Yeah, we stopped doing gifts all together. Yeah, just do it out the window. Yeah, and I mean it's just me and mom anyways. Yeah, it makes it obviously a very easy decision to make, yea. Yeah, but it's also yeah, it takes all weird. Well, your mom is a gift anyway, so yeah, yeah, we just eat good dinner and she cooks, and so Christmas is kind of nice now too. But yeah, you get like gift anxiety or something or yeah, gift like yeah, regret or yeah, all of it's there's weird emotions around it. And I feel like if you have a giant family, which a lot of people do, and they'll do like the Uh, it's gonna sound racist because I might get a wrong white elephant, black elephant. It's white elephant. Yeah, yeah, I've never done one of those, but yeah, you have a family of thirty people, which a lot of my homies do you know, they have cousins and they all do it together. That's a little more fun. I think that takes the pressure off, right, because no one's choosing for you, and then there's no disappointment on either end. Yeah, a shit gift, because gift giving can be hard if you're like, unless you're super close, I feel like, well, yeah, this is over and a whole can of worms here. The uh, the thing that that my White's family does, and that's kind of we've primarily you know, even even my folks before they passed, you know, would would jump in with

1:40 my with my in laws for for holidays, Christmas Eve, there's too many people and it's everybody brings one gift and uh, then you it's all in a pile and we pick a way to do it. Usually it's like youngest, the oldest, whatever, and you choose one gift. And after last year, we finally had to make a rule of no wide elephants, no gag gifts or whatever, because like you could put a lot of time and thought into like putting in your your exchange gift and have somebody else pick something shitty. Yeah, and you get something shitty and you're like, fuck this, why did I bother? But then like, yeah, how do you choose a gift for like thirty people? Kind of yeah, like a Starbucks gift card but then that's not like that thoughtful but something everyone could use.

2:28 Yeah, that gets weird. That's what I mean. Like, if you really know someone, gift giving can be cool because you make it all special and that's kind of fun. That feels good, like general gift giving. Yeah, this is not to throw shade on you know, everybody that I that I deal with in my family. Number One, I just I don't I'm not a big like gift giver for other people's birthdays and stuff like that. That seems like bullshit to me, but you know, it is what it is. But for for Christmas, I have seldom gotten anything that I thought was a like really me gift. Yeah, you know out and and I'm told that I'm hard to buy for. I don't think so, And I would rather buy for myself. I think I could make a tool little list if I had to, probably so. Yeah, because gift giving is also a talent or not a talent, but like a skill. She got to put in some thought and then you got to go a couple It's kind of like a joke. You know, you can't like hit it on the nose. You kind of have to go one step to the side and kind of vibe out. I don't even know. Yeah, birthdays, we don't do gifts either. I don't think. I don't think I like receiving gifts, So I just kind of made the rules. You know. I'm just like kind of same, probably the same reason. It's the same reason because it's like, you know, if you knew me better, you would not think that that was an appropriate gift for me. And then I think a lot of people that even that they know me, I found this to be my whole life. I've shed go into like powerlifting or music, and a lot of stuff I relate to is about like kind of outcasts or people that don't fit in. But it's not that I don't fit in. It's just that my friends aren't exactly like me. None of my friends are like me.

3:57 Like you've met some of my friends now, Like none of them are into the same shit really, or a couple of them will be into like one thing that I'm into, like a lot of my friends don't listen to the same music, Like my best friends don't listen to the same music, aren't into clothes, aren't really into cars, you know, like food, maybe food, but like one of them. So then if they try to give for me, it's thoughtful, not that this has really happened, but hypothetically the gift for me. But it's always doesn't you know, it's not on the playground. It does end up like shading the relationship a little bit if you get something that that just just seems off and it's hard to give something that's right, And it really sucks when you give somebody a gift and it doesn't land. Yeah, and then you do yeah, you know, if you're doing a personal one, you don't want to do the basic Starbucks gift card deal. No, no, you don't. Why don't they do registries for every holiday? That's exactly a good point. Oh my god, I think we may have made the They maybe just cut this part out and use this as the new business plan Christmas registry would bang. That sounds like an amazing Santa Claus lists as a kid, is that? Yeah? And which is genius? Actually, that's a very commercial genius way to know what your kid wants. I think on Amazon you can do a wish list that other people can see. Yeah, that's kind of to just be online horrors doing it. Yeah, we're being franky. Well yeah, there we go.

5:15 That's uh. Yeah, if you're hooring yourself out on the internet and not necessarily sexually, just in general general whoror you don't have to be an only fans star. But yeah, just all types of horror really helps sell outy horrors. And actually I'm not that against it because if your fans want to buy your ship by all means. Because I had it on Twitch, it was cool you could sign up for without like giving your location. You could sign up for your viewers to buy you door Dash basically. Oh and it was an app like that you would attach to Twitch. So that was cool. Up streaming for eight hours and someone buy you a pizza? Yeah, buy me a coffee. Is one of those people that's a cool idea. Yeah, but a registry for yeah, like whatever, holidays, fucking first Communion and fucking yeah winning boy Scouts, whatever the hell these kids do.

5:57 I don't know what the help people do, but Christmas for sure, something specific where it's easy for people to find you to get you. You know. Yeah, my parents were good growing up. I remember being like crazy excited, like and they wouldn't. We weren't like wealthy, but they just do like the right shit, ye know. Like I predominantly remember like multiple gifts in my brain that my dad got me that were like it's fucking perfect. Yeah, I will say that my uh you know, I said Sam, you know, and and his wife very often give me very very on the nose things. Yeah, for me, that's it. That's a good point. My wife and I tend to instead of buying gifts for each other, we tend to find a thing that we want to buy together.

6:41 Yeah, or events, right if you're Yeah, yeah, if I'm dating, like, an event makes more sense a trip or a concert or a cool dinner. We're even doing that where mom and Bart's birthday are on the same day, and it's Friday Saturday, and so we're just doing dinner Sunday all together. But I'm not gonna get bored again. Yeah, he would just go do a fancy dinner, you know. Yeah, everyone will enjoy it more. Anyways. Yeah, for sure, my wife and I bought a piece of art that we're having heavy framed because it was just the worst frame, ugly, super ugly frame. But like local artists, you know, decades long sack state art professor or whatever, that's kind of yeah, kind of interesting and different or whatever, just very very on brand for us, and then we didn't have to think about, you know, what's the right thing. Yeah, And I mean I don't know, maybe I am a mystery in that regard, or I think that the things I want I usually think about for a very long time in park because they're expensive. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the other thing too, the older you get, you just want fancier shit. Yeah. So like I don't expect a car for Christmas, right, that'd be crazy, But that's probably what do I you know, like what do I want? I want to fucking like, I don't somebody rolled in here? Yeah, yeah, I don't want a toy with a nine to eleven. Yeah, it's much easier with a kid, and that's a classic nine to eleven, you know, Yeah, that's still too un our cable. I think we did a couple big Christmases in Cleveland, where I have a bunch of cousins and shit, but only a handful growing up. And I think we did one maybe when I was eighteen or a little bit older. And uh, I think we just

8:13 did gifts for the kid kids. I don't know what the age cut off was, but if you felt like a kid, then everyone would just get you shit and the adults just kind of, you know, had dinner and hung out. I think that's a good plan too, because who's going to actually really like it, like you know, your grandkids, right, Yeah, No, we have actually not even had the discussion about what they want for Christmas out and then they have to they're coming for Christmas and they're you know, over three thousand miles away, and then you have to get stuff home and buy it and ship it. Yeah, exactly. Or you know, we often just give give my son the money and have him buy it and have it there, as opposed to because the shipping is insanity. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think we did that too when I was a kid. Maybe they give me a couple of things there, but then my aunts would just send me stuff to Sacramento. I don't know. Yeah.

8:56 Yeah. The bigger family you are and the more friends you have just gonna buy everyone shit. No, you just can't. You can't do that. Ye that and money wise and just like energy wise. Yeah, but it is a consumer world. I mean Black Friday sales started two weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, crack of November. Yeah, November. The first week of November. They put the tree up in the Capitol, So I assume they did it in New York and San Francisco and everywhere else. But I swear that was like a after Thanksgiving deal. It did used to be, Yeah, but I've been trying to maximize the retail season. That's literally all it is is you find like customer habits and purchasing dates, and you open that door up wider. They're going to spend more longer. Yeap keeps the ball rolling, for sure. We'll sort of do two running here. We haven't. We haven't done two episodes running where we did Rose and Thorn yet.

9:48 So what's what's the week since the last time we talked? Doesn't have to be this week since the last time we talked, Banks, similar roses, teams, moving, power lifting meets sold out for March, and deadlines are being hit. That's probably the best thing. I'm still like stress, but like the deadlines are hit. We got you know, all our care packs out, we got inventory, we're revamping the website, which should be ready in time. Like all that feels good. You think that's it. Thorn sleeps in whatever. Oh yeah, yeah, but you know, I don't know if it's changed the season or stress or I'm still dieting, so lack of food always makes me sleep a little, you know, Like you you go to bed on like fucking three in and out burgers, You're gonna sleep so good. Yeah, but you go to bed. Have you done the cottage cheese thing? Like their case and at bedtime? I did case and shakes back in the day. We're about to do a skit. I'll spoil it right here. I saw some kid on TikTok. This is unrelated in some senses, but I saw a kid on TikTok. He has like a bowl of ice, and uh he does like a pretty good acting job to make it look yummy, and he sprinkles bagel, all you everything, everything on the ice and just starts chomping on. Oh my, So I'm gonna go. Kyle's actually bringing us ice right now, and I'm just gonna have a bunch of protein on it and try to eat it, I'll probably throw up or spit it out. Maybe, so it would be a good video because that's kind of like how it feels like I'm eating. You start to diet a lot, and you're just like, dude, I eat one meal a day, that's it. So then I go to bed hungry caught a cheese. I don't know. I only really like in lasagna, I think, oh really, yeah, like I don't really like it by itself.

11:18 Interesting another white thing. You know, my mom made the lasagna with kind of cheese, but we used ricotta. Yeah, my mom will do both. But I just love lasagna, man, so I'll eat it either way it's super thin noodle or like even like stuff shells cheese or rocota and that I'll eat that. Yeah, it just needs more shit. It's the same with cheese. I don't like. You know, I don't like a chacudery board. I need it like on a burger. I need it on a pizza. I me and the other day this is that checurdery boards are lunchables for millennials, I really are, And it seemed to get popular like with that gen like my generation, Yeah, which I assume invented the Lunchible. Yeah probably, Yeah, I like them. I like chicardiy Boards the lunchible guy, but I like sure could boards. Yeah, if you're at a party, you know, at the dinner party, it makes sense to have a fat one out when you're having wine before dinner or some shit.

12:07 I've seen a fancy restaurant. I think I got introduced to them in Italy and I think that maybe did it. Sure made it kind of special in my head. Yeah, and they got to be delicious and they got to be very delicious. Yeah, for sure, I'm gonna go a lot. Yeah, my uh I had. Speaking of sleep, I got one thorn that hit me at six forty this morning. My wife burned toast in the kitchen while I was still asleep, and it set off the fire alarms. Yeah, that's the worst. And she's like it's all I get up and I'm like, ah, well, number one, I sleep with ear plugs, and so I'm hearing a voice. I'm hearing a woman's voice go on and on, you know, repeating the same thing over and over again.

12:48 I'm like, I'm in a dream and I'm like, what the actual fuck am I listening to? Like, what's happening around me. This dream is so fucking weird. And then I realized that there's actually beeping going on as well, and so I pulled my earplugs out and it's like, oh, shit, like the houses on fire. And I don't know what time it is, but it's a light. There's a smell. It's a little bit light outside. Smell hadn't hit me yet. I don't know. Anyway, though I got out there, my wife is like, I just I only you know, it was only this done and it's like black in the middle. It's like, yeah, because it burned. That's why she said, Yeah, I just said, did you toast it with a forest fire? I mean, what the hell? But she apologized year the toaster has not apologized, so that's something makes it. Actually, I remember because you have like so many fire drills in high school and shit, yeah, going up.

13:39 Uh it was Henry actually, I think who you met. He burnt the fuck out of some popcorn and she was I think the sprinklers went off, like the whole school went crazy one day and we're just like his dad was even the principal. Maybe not at the time, but his dad turned out to be the princpal burnt the shit out of this popcorn. The whole school's freaking the fuck out over some popcorn. But yeah, I mean toast popcorn, microwave shit. Yeah, a little smoke like crazy. Oh yeah yeah. Rolling back to what you were saying earlier about your your friends, all of the friends that your childhood friends that I've met are fucking cool people. They're like them, They're great people and slowly migrating back here, which is wonderful. Not all, but you' that's great. And the other thorn is like the shower head that I just replaced like two months ago, when the men's bathroom was busted. Now, I don't know what happened. I don't know what people do with these other getting freak. I don't know, we know. I mean, maybe we're gonna have to go not handheld because maybe there's getting a little bit too much activity with the hand toil. Yeah, who knows. You can't put some security cameras back there wand up on some drama page. Oh my god, you have seen that, right, I've just heard about it happening multiple times, but I assume that happens everywhere.

14:43 What happened recently, I didn't know that. But women's only gym. This guy had a wing guy runs it. Yes, even that's alrea of a red flag, that's red flag number one. Yeah, yeah, you really want to Yeah, you don't want a guy to be involved in the women's own even though that's probably the norm. But probably dude, probably so. But yeah, he had a mop bucket in the in the women's restroom. He claims that people were stealing things out of the bathroom. So your camera's one, So he put a hit a camera in like the mop. Yeah, and of course it was pointed right at the toilet. So well, then just take valuable shit out of the bathroom. Yeah that' that'd be a step, right, I mean, toilet paper, for heaven's sake, So what are you keeping in the bathroom? It's so yeah, yeah, and let it get ripped. I mean even at the commercial gym I worked out was not in the greatest like area, and we had a cabinet full of all the cleaning supplies kind of outside of the bathrooms, and they get stolen all the time. You go back there and all the windex has gone, all the toil. But like you can't lock that stuff. I mean yeah, but and what are you gonna do? You know, like they're not still in a computer, and yeah, shit's gonna happen. You're at a huge commercial gym with people everywhere. Are gonna get fucked. I mean even here, I'm sure shit's got sold that we didn't recognize. We heard there was a I don't know the official term, so don't flame me, folks, but homeless man who had been corrected with all the emails I write politicians in the city and ship, they correct the term I use experiencing homelessness.

16:07 Yeah. Yeah, it's even crazier than that, the term that yield at me. But anyways, rumor has it there's a homeless man stumping around town with a couple of our hats on and ship. So who knows? Yeah, who knows what happened? Probably yeah? Maybe? Oh did he? Oh well then that's why. But I've heard from multiple members gave it to him because I had other members. I came up like, yeah, man, there's do in the corner with your hair. I don't know, bro, the he's cold. That's true free marketing, I guess, yeah, homeless love us? Yeah, so do I have a rose? I don't know. I don't know. I'm you know, I'm kind of looking forward to the holiday. Yeah, okay, quick man, this was a fast year. I probably say it every year, but it's maybe this year yet Maybe I don't know. For me, it seems really long. Yeah, it seems super long this year, because like I was in Europe for a month this year, and that seems like it was a long time.

17:11 Agoun. Yeah, a lot happened in between it. Yeah, I feel like that's to balance. The brain's so interesting because when a lot happens, it can feel very long, and when a lot happens, it can feel very short, you know, because it obviously speeds up time when you're busy. But yeah, I think I'm kind of in that zone. I don't know. Yeah, it felt quick. And then you start thinking about Adam Sandler and the movie Click. Fuck dude, how much of this life am I living? What's that face? You never seen the movie Click? Because because he's just running through life, not paying attention to like, not living in the now, and life just keeps fast forwarding and fast forwarding. That's the whole moral of the story, that my life moves too fast. Yeah, pretty fat, and you need to tap in and like enjoy it that go watch click again, dude, you go cry the in fairs Bueller.

17:55 I don't know if I've seen Full of All. It was a movie that was like a flow around on like TNT and shit as a kid, so I'd watch bits and pieces of it. We may have to do that one as a I don't know if I watched as a generational thing. What's the guy's name, super famous, Matthew Broderick, Yeah, Broderick, Yeah, so have you without getting into the specifics of the meat or the lifter, Yeah, and anybody but Garrett Fear Yeah. I heard someone squatted high. Yeah, but I didn't watch the Squad. I don't know why I did watch The Squad and maybe just stopped caring. I don't know. I saw shure a boy Dan Bell maybe the best part of for all time now, but Dan Bell posted on it and agreed. Yeah, I saw the dramas running around, but it's happened so many times, and I feel like if we got side shots of any meat ever, we could do that, you know what I mean. Like there's always critique after after IPF gnats, you know, judges being too strict or having favorites or even at Arnold when we were there, I heard rustling in the crowd about like, yeah, they're making show and so hold the bench so long. I'm like, do you think they really have it out for Timmy? Like no one gives a fuck up about you know, Johnny, Nobody, Like, I don't think that the judges depending on the fed. Some you know, no offense folks.

19:10 Some are just like so old and out of tune. They don't know who these lifters are. It's not like they're on Instagram all day, you know. I think it's I think that they get caught by inattention. I think that they're like it's more focus. It's hard. Uh yeah, it's it's like a slow ass sport. Like when you're refing basketball. I've wrote a good amount of games in my time, and like you're literally jogging and you're you're locked in because you're like part of it. You're dodging balls and you're fucking talking and you're you're talking to players. Hey watch that hand. You know, you're you're literally like almost a player. Where powerlifting, you're just sitting there staring at a wall. It's like literally watching grass grow. So a hundred percent. Uh understand them getting bored this high squad. That was the thing, right it was a record, not even a record whatever.

19:52 No, And it doesn't really matter. The issue is more the reaction than I And and like, really one I want to to ask is like is it fixable? And how are we supposed to think about about records, squats whatever across federations. This is us PC. So that's what I was going to bring up. If I'm you know, a noble powerlifting analyst, like a young Garrett Fear who cares very much about the sport, I might not even comment on it if it's not in like one of the feds that are legit. See, that's my question, That is my real question, Like do we care if it's not in a federation that we know has good judging Because that happened for a while was RPS, the Green Fed. I feel like when when raw powerlifting started, just crush numbers, Kevin O and Little Bird, Everyone's crushing numbers. Then the RPS was like the only main one running meets out on the East coast, and they were the USPA was just starting to get there and we had a couple of meets, but it was really USPA dominant with the Dan Greens and Jeremy Hamilton's et cetera. And then and then the East Coast would have the RPS and the judging just wasn't up to the same standard. So like all these records can broke left and right, and yeah, they're all on a different standard. Yeah, but that's been the issue the whole time, right, Like, I think this one is in a monolift where a lot of people now are starting to walk their shit out, whether it's WRPF or not. But I mean the gold standards, the WRPF and the USAPL slash IPF. So if I'm commenting on it,

21:26 I'm simply saying, Okay, you're your best in your pond, right now, come to the WRPF pro whatever's next, and do it again. Yeah. Right, if that guy's my competitor, or if I'm an analyst, that's like the same thing. Like if some guy's going absolutely crazy in European basketball, ESPN is gonna be say like, that's amazing and you're really good, but it doesn't count un till you get here, come to the NBA and let us know, you know, and that doesn't really happen. Like even the Kings just you know, signed the European MVP heere I forgot exactly what league, but maybe Italy. But he's on our team now and you know he's doing okay, Yeah, he's shitting on folks over there.

22:10 So it's the same idea with these other FEDS, like there's no one. The only one you can make the argument is the USA pl I p F one because that's newly broken off. But any other FED, I think if you want to take a record, you got to go compete against where the studs are, and that's where the sport is. Back in the day, you couldn't right back in the day, travel, lack of meats, money, all these things are an issue. But now if you're that guy, you're gonna get a sponsorship. You can find somebody to pay your way there, you can. You can bundle it up. Like the sport's changed in that sense where you don't have to break a record in your own backyard, so then travel and show up. You know. That's that's all I would say, rather than like calling out a high squad is yeah, it needs to be done. It needs to because Karen is an analyst, like that's kind of his gig in this thing, right, He's the Stephen A Smith or whatever the fuck of power thing. So I might not always agree with Garrett, I'm always going to support him because he's doing a hard thing, yea, and he cares kind of he's kind of doing the Lord's work in a lot of ways. Yeah, And I don't think he has ill intent with anything he ever does. He just loves powerlifting more than I ever will.

23:11 So someone's got to do it, and he could be a wild card. I like a disruptor. I hate I hate meaningless of disruptions, but I like a disruption that that like tries to push things forward. Yeah. I think that's what he's trying to do. He's trying to get the standardization. But like you know, until I don't know what it's going to take. But until I guess there's enough meets in every state by the WFPI for whatever federation was never won, and until there's like a clear line from kind of rookie to getting paid and being the best in a federation, there's always going to be someone else thinking they can start a league. Yeah, and back in the day, I mean kind of the only places that you could look at records and the only sort of arbiters of what the what the actual like all time records were where the magazine Powerlifting USA and Parlating Watch. Yeah, Parliating Watch is a lost gem. We have Open Powerlifting, which is cool, and they do an insane amount of data and statistics. Well, I think that I think that some of the controversy. I don't know the the open parliating guys, but some of the controversy comes in the fact that they list, you know, basically what they're given. Yeah, right, right, and which I think if you're doing stats is what you have to go by. I think so too. But but they got white lights.

24:26 Yeah, you gotta take it. Yeah, But that's that hypes it up because like, oh, it's a legitimate because it's on there. Yeah, And you have to as a discerning consumer of like you know, powerlifting judging, you have to know that sometimes it's going to be bs. Yeah. I think we need a little UFC type shit, you know, get a little Twitter fingers And whoever, what weight class was he two seventy five or something? Whoever that fucking other two seventy five is I'm on this dude's ass on Twitter. Yeah, you know, I think that's what the sport kind of needs. One a little bit of hype. It doesn't have to be negative, and it doesn't have to come out to fucking slashing tires and fighting, but you know, let a little competitiveness come out. If I'm if I'm a good two seventy five or even a top five, I'm probably chomping at that guy. Yeah, I've just never been good enough a power left to let a rip, but I would let a rip. Man. Hey, bro, that's cool. You're over there in the fucking pee wee leagues.

25:14 Yeah, come over here to the WRPF before we get judged tight and let's go head to head. I'll buy your entry or something. You know. I would, I would be doing shit like that. I think that would be good for the sport. Russ Russ Swoll and that kind of squad's one that talks about it a lot too, and I think Garrett as well, where like not that you need shit talk, but you kind of need storylines, and storylines only really come with like off the field drama in a sense of adversity of some kind of competitiveness. Yeah, you need a rival in a way, right and if no one's you know, you can all be friends. You can have a beer afterwards. I don't give a shit, or you know, say in the leagues like that too, you know, like Lebron James and Kevin Durant are buddies, but they're gonna talk a little mess, you know, and they're definitely gonna try to win. Yeah, Kevin Rant came out recently, which is an interesting quote. I think he said, uh, because the biggest knock on the NBA now is maybe similar to the powerlifting or powerlifting in the West Side days. Guys would fight and you know, you hate each other in NBA too. You know, there's numerous videos of Jordan's shoving guys and talking shit where they say, now because the Internet age or maybe the soft generation or whatever, that they're all friends. And Kevin Durant I think it was literally last week because he played Lebron and they're smiling and high five en after the game or whatever. People talk shit on that, say yo, like Larry Bird would never, you know, Jordan would never. And he said, oh, which you guys don't know, is that friends actually want to win more. That makes sense, which which I see a side. I don't know if I was ever like that, because there's you know, you grow up playing basketball long enough, you're going to see the same kids everywhere, whether it's college or leagues

26:48 or charity tournaments or whatever. And so there's a couple of guys that would become friendly without you know, you'd give a mutual respect, but came recognize the game. Yeah kind of. But I don't know if I ever I don't know if my friends on the other team, if I want to beat them more than a guy I hate hate pretty powerful man, you guys, go go watch episode three, you know, obi wan, I'll fucking show you that HET's powerful. Yeah. So I don't know about that in powerlifting, but if I'm whoever two seventy five ers or whoever this dude is, I'd call his asset right now. Yeah. It's a couple of other things that Garrett said that I agree with. Like he said, if somebody gave me the white lights, I would take him to Yeah, you can't always blame the lifter. Even though a couple of people have denied world records based on bad performances of their own. I forgot who that was. But a couple of years ago, someone squad a world record and said, nah, it wasn't up to my own standard. But the only thing too And obviously I'm not on their strength level, so I can't say, but there are lifters that get do it consistently. Is just like, if you train to standard, you'll compete to standard. That makes sense, you know what I mean? So like, why are you having this moral standard issue with what white lights you've given? If you know you lift good, yeah, yeah, you know, like yeah, you're always going to be nervous to hit death. But like I feel like it shouldn't be as much of a conversation as it is. Just train, just train better, train more standard.

28:03 I mean we see it in here all the time. People squad high at ship and I'm like, well, good luck at your meat you know, yeah, And that's that was obviously the big thing with the geared era is that it was really hard to squat to depth period, let alone, it would it would take so much out of you if you did it in training, yeah, and then but then doing it on meat day you would try uh to soordiating you down there and kind of rely on the fact that somebody who's gonna be you a gift, and that's yeah, you just judgment. At least we'll give you a gift. Yeah, the sports obviously it's almost just a different sport. But yeah, you're just hoping to stand up not die. Yeah, exactly, we're like raw. I mean, if you're raw, especially with sleeves let alone, I mean raps. Still you can be so consistent. You know, there's just so many less factors than a squat suit. So just fucking squad normal and and and how the sports progress.

28:48 You know, people are they're going nine for nine, you know, they're coming well planned out. They're not. They're not coming in you know, on a coin flip. And the same with regular sports. You know, it's just it's just grown. You're you're not going into an NBA game championship and shooting a shot you've never shot before. You know, you're doing shit. You're not. You don't not throw a curveball season. Now you're in the World Series, right, you're like, I'm gonna let this one rip. Like no, like you're throwing the pitches you have in your pocket. It's not like a marathon where you're not running. You're not really running twenty six miles before you, before you the marathon, your even that twelve thirteen and yeah yeah, yeah even yeah even that's like just a mental test because the variables are so gone. But yeah, yeah, that that is kind of how I was raised on it too, like, oh, you hit five hundred and training good, you'll be good for five fifty on game day? Like, oh will you like that is kind of how they thought.

29:37 That did happen to me? But yeah, yeah, it happened to me too, Like most of my prs are are in meat, so get all revved up, and I wouldn't be reripped up in training and and the style of training we did. But nowadays it's just not like that because people are so competitive that you kind of have to go, you know, seven, eight, nine for nine to even have a chance. So the untested world is a little bit different still, but I think a lot of them are evolving that you have a game plan, you got to follow it out. But I just don't get I guess I don't get squatting high as a thing, especially if you're like the best, right because normally, like it's the only sport where the best are can off, not it's the only sport where the best in the sport may not be the most skilled. Oh yeah, right, right, Like, whoever this guy is, I don't know who he is. Sorry if I'm ripping you, buddy, maybe we're even buddies for all I fucking know. But well we're not saying his name, so we're over. Yeah. I didn't even like click on it. I didn't even look. I just I did watch it, but I didn't like memorize the name or anything. And I'm intentionally keeping that part vague. It's just sort of a broader discussion about it, because like Steph Curry's the fucking best. Like, you're not gonna out dribble or out shoot Steph Creek because he's the best, so then he's gonna score the most points. But someone in powerlifting can like score the most points. And I'm a better squatter than them. Yeah, because they're not they're not a technical squad. Yeah, they're just like not skilled at all a brute strength. Yeah, yeah, they just have genetics or steroids that Yeah, other folks don't have, you know, which is weird. Maybe that happens in football sometimes, but rarely happens in any sport. Baseball definitely won't happen. Like, you have to be the skill. You have to be the best to be the best, And in this sport, you could be the strongest and be the worst.

31:08 Like you could be very unskilled, untalented, unexperienced, unscerebral about at all and somehow get a world record. Yeah. I used to say, never follow a freak. Yeah yeah, yeah, you can literally just be a freak, And we say that in other sports. But like people say, Lebron's a freak, but he's also just as skilled as he is freaky. That's the only way, Yeah, right, Because I've played with guys that were like freaky like Lebron, but had no skill, and then they're in junior college. Yeah you know what I mean, they're jumping through the roof. They're six six, two hundred and twenty pounds, jacked out of the brains, but they don't have that skill, so you don't get there. We're powerlifting. You can sneak your way through, even strong man. I don't think you can sneak your way through anymore. Yeah, you know, because the game's evolved. Yeah maybe back in the day, you're just a brute. Yeah, and the technique hasn't caught up. But now all those guys are technical as shit with the stones and technical as shit with the log right, so they're strong and technical, you're screwed. Another point that Garrett made, I thought that was interesting, and it certainly it's something that I've observed in the in the untested world, in the geared world or whatever, especially back in the multiplay days, that lifters would be positive to each other in person and maybe positive about somebody else's you know, high squad or bench that wasn't locked out or deadlift that wasn't locked out or whatever on social media, and then privately to their to their other friends, talk shit, talk shit. And I saw that more often than I think that's just human nature, probably because I'm also the one like I just hate conflict. I'm not

32:38 gonna like, I'm not going to also rain on your parade in person. Yeah, you know, like if you get white lights and I think you're squat high, I'm not about to just run up to you and be like Jim, that squad sucked. Yeah, you know what I mean. So not that I think talking behind someone's back is good. Yeah, let's social media ring a little bit, you know, I think there is a time to be a keyboard warrior in the sense that you don't need to get into fist fights in person. Yeah, but you also don't need to be fake in person. You can be neutral in person and then you know, be a little more truthful online because it is just easier. Like it's you know, what are you gonna do if you're at that meeting that guy squat site.

33:19 I don't think Garrett's walking up to him either and saying, hey, bro, that fucking sucked. He may not, I don't know, you know, like maybe at the bar after hcause I think he's got beat up for shit like that. But like, you know, I don't know. I I do agree with the general point of not being you know, a sleeves ball and talking shit behind people's back. But I also don't think you just go straight up to them and say they're like, yo, that's up. That's not going to solve anything either, Yeah, for sure, you know, but I think they only solved the only real answer, And that's what I always look for in anything business. That lifting the you're right, we have a problem. How do you solve it? Is? Is other two seventy five ers or whoever's in this dude's weight class, like politely, not politely call him out in the sense you need to challenge them, don't just say like you know, I'm better on you, bro, say hey man, great squad. I don't think it was up to standard company me at w RPF Pennsylvania. I'll pay your entry. Let's go ahead to head, you know, and then and then and then either the guy shows up and he does it better or you just don't show up. The rest will answer itself, and that's how the UFC works. I feel like, yeah, I think that's true too, right, Like guys call each other out that aren't always going for the belt. You know you're ranked ten, you'll call out the six guy like that kind of that kind of matters, and one it will build a story and then two you'll see what people are made of. I think that's the competitiveness we need. So I think the bottom line for me is that you just don't have to pay attention to every single one of these. Yeah, like you should definitely, like on social media, should be congratulatory for the people who set records, break records, you

34:52 know, lift in a in an admirable way in uh, conditions where the judging is a pair carently spot on kind of regardless of where the where the the federation. If you can look at a video when you say yeah, that looks right, Yeah, that looks right, then then congratulate. But it doesn't necessary if you're not personally involved, if you're not personally if you're not a commentator the way Garrett is or whatever. Yeah, so that's the amendment. I guess to my keyboard warrior thing like, you got to you gotta have skin in the game. Yeah, exactly, Like Garrett's been to every meat on the planet. He's memorized everyone's prs that's ever lifted a weight in their life, right, Like, Garrett's got more skin in the game than most as a competitor, but definitely as an analyst, you have to be around the sport and be in the sport. You can't compete once and now be critiquing the strongest in the world, you know, like train with some cats, be around the game a bit, you know, same with like those. Most analysts have either started at high school, college like Steven A. Smith, I imagine been reporting basketball for fifty years, right, like starting in college to basketball to pro and if they're not, they played pro right. And now you have Shannon Sharp's a big voice in sports, like they have skin in the game. Critique isn't always perfect, but at least it has thought behind it. Yeah, I'm not for random keyboard warriors, but have you got Yeah, if you're a big squatter, if you've been around the sport, if you're an analyst, yeah, I think your voice matters to hopefully evolve the sport at the right place. Well, I got one more department. I want to roll out here for the first time.

36:17 And I'm stealing this the title of this from other podcasts, but we're gonna do it our own way that I'm calling this three things, So three social media accounts that are not in the fitness space that you enjoy most. And I just followed a sick one yesterday. I got you guys this one. I think I don't know where I stole it. Maybe on my Discovery non fitness you said, non Fitness Star. I hate sometimes I do feel like a gate keeper hipster that I don't want to share, but I'll get over it. Star World Lab okay, And they just do like crazy shit in the world, just like anything from there's like a new island that just formed the Pacific. Did you see that? No, So some volcano went crazy and literally formed a new island six hundred and twenty miles south of Tokyo.

37:28 So it does stuff like that. Or Kanye West built a whole studio in the middle of nowhere, Saudi Arabia and like some oasis city they post about that. There's like these fucking blue Java bananas, just like crazy. This is the texture doesn't look really weird. This is the texture. Flavor is vanilla ice cream and it's a natural fruit. So it just posts like crazy, kind of mind bending type shit. I really like that. I'm trying to think of another good one that I have Recently. I follow a lot of dog ones like Rescues kind of makes me sad and not sad. Mm hmm, let's see another one. A lot of them are like fashion e too. If you guys don't know who Mao Wolf is, Mao Wolf's a decent follow. Mao Wolf is like a artist, but they put on like like interactive exhibit museum type things, and so he has some really trippy art direction y posts that are really cool. If you guys have heard I think it's is a Era fifteen, Area fifty one, Area fifty one, No, like the exhibition, Oh exhibition, I don't know. I think it might be Area fifteen. It might be Area fifty one too, But it's basically like a like a super interactive like in person almost video game treasure hunt you can do in this crazy looking building. And that's him. That's in Vegas. I forgot what it was called, but yeah, Mao Wolf would be another good one. It's another good follow. I'm just scrolling around like crazy. Yeah, I follow a bunch of random ship I do too,

39:07 but I mean there's some basic ones. Oh shout out my boy dude. I haven't met him yet, but I wanted. His name is Andrew Dutton ad underscore sneaks. Uh. He's a teacher, but he does like sneaker and fashion photography on the sign on the side, and his photography is insane. I followed him a couple of months ago. I like his content a ton ad Underscore sneak. Shout out to Andrew. Uh. He looks like he's maybe about my age and he's just a grade school teacher, but he's super into like clothes and shit and his photography is insane. If you guys are into shit like that, maybe him, Okay, you got my number number one. It's not fitness, it is it's a sport, but not not fitness, is uh. Ash Watson, former uh British uh gymnastics champ. Uh little guy I mean, I mean he's short. Yeah, he's probably taller than matter here, but that's also very short but uh, you know, and and pretty thick for for gymnastics, like not in the you know, a lot of gymnasts are are jacked, but they're but they're frame is small. This is a bigger framed guy who is a small guy at the same time. Yeah. Uh, And a lot of his account is uh trying different gymnastics things that are done by women or done by by

40:40 really high level like performing Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Just try to do the trick. He just tays it over. You see, can watch it doing him doing it over and over and again until he until he finally nails it. And he's not shy about showing you like an ugly fail. I can't do that. I don't know why this shit scares me, So I just feel like a joint is going to get dislocated somewhere. Uh yeah, yeah, I think that's possible. I haven't seen anything terrible like that happening except out he'd post himself can wrecked. Probably not, but like he I mean, they also do a lot of you know, there's a lot of pads down like that, and it's like he's not He's not gonna break his neck probably. Yeah. I'll just watched like yeah, like Travis Pastrana and even th that Sean White stuff. You see them like practicing over and over. Yeah, it just makes me like cringe, like all dude, I know something bad's about to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Another one of my like very long time favorites is Smoking Tire. Yeah they're good.

41:36 Matt Farrah, what's your YouTube A good amount? Yeah, yeah, just because they'll do like old BMW's and cool shit and yeah, they'll grab like a random kid who stooped up his car and take them for a drive. Yeah. And I mean his his social media is good, does a lot of cool stuff. There's a lot of food and and and stuff in his social media. And then the YouTube videos are are are good. Yeah. Probably the thing that hooked me years ago, probably fuck probably twelve years ago, is how much fun he has doing this stuff. Yeah, it seems like he's still passion over, still a lot a lot of laugh, a lot of you know, uh, just just pure enjoyment of what he's doing. And it's got it and you know, it's work. People forget that content creation is straight up work, very much so. And I'm gonna have oops, this is loud all of a sudden. I'm hoping that I can remember I just watched this guy this morning. I follow him on TikTok.

42:35 Actually, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna do another one. I'll save this one for another time. Another one that I really enjoy is nobody cares Anthony. He It's largely like signs or or ads or whatever. They have like outrageous typos in them, and he's got he's from Boston. He's got a really like thick Boston accent, and it's they're just fucking hysterical. I wonder, yeah, I wonder if people like that can monetize enough that they get to travel and find signs or it's really repurposing online. It's a really good question. I don't know, And probably the reason that that I'm mentioning him as opposed to a couple of the other ones. Is like, yesterday, I think he had a post about either. I don't know. It does not very clear. And this is a thing about social media. You know, when somebody posts about somebody in their life who died, you don't always know what the what the relationship was, and you seldom know how they died or whatever, so they's no cautionary tale that can be taken there.

43:37 You know, accidents and cancer seemed to be like the leading causes if you actually hear something. But I think it was supposed yesterday that he lost a girlfriend or wife or whatever like six years ago, and it was like it was a you know, very sweet sentimental post that show you that the person has more than what you're seeing. Yeah, a little out of the content. Yeah yeah, and you just you know, obviously if you're a human with empathy, you you resonate with that, start to relate a little bit. Yeah, But generally there's so like laugh out loud funny the you know I see somehow on my discovery, maybe not him, but random signs that are funny. Yeah. Just there was a there was a Facebook marketplace ad that he was talking about the other day, and it was somebody was selling a TV, a you know, flat screen TV's a woman. She took a picture of the TV. But she is buck naked and a reflection or something. Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, and she's got like her her nipples and her hips are touching pretty much nice. Yeah, He's like, it's like they're extra limbs of Facebook fling that. This is a really good question. I don't know, because they're not paying attention. I don't know. I'm sure I got it at some point. That's wild. Yeah.

44:55 He was even like turning the telling you to turn the picture in different ways. You can like see different things if you keep turning it, and you know a lot of you know, just funny stuff. We I should mention this because I'm sure nobody got it. But the episode that we did last week that we were just housekeeping, there's one of his repeating bis, is this like sign that says house kipping, house skipping, house skipping? You just automatically reading an accident. Yeah, exactly. It's because it's written phonetically basically. So, but yeah, that's about all I got. Go follow them kids, what days to say? We got about five days, November twentieth, biggest drop of the year of all time really for us three SB dot co. Check it out. We got up to forty percent off all our classics and we got a brand new drop, our biggest ever.

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