How should we judge the judges?

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Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to this
week. It'll be a week before Thanksgiving.

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Yeah, I love Thanksgiving. Sports
are going crazy. King's got a

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nice win. Thanksgiving. It's probably
my favorite holiday. Yeah, yeah,

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probably, I mean it's food based. I think it's probably my favorite holiday

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too, just because like Christmas song
is always a disappointment. Y's. Yeah,

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we stopped doing gifts all together.
Yeah, just do it out the

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window. Yeah, and I mean
it's just me and mom anyways. Yeah,

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it makes it obviously a very easy
decision to make, yea. Yeah,

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but it's also yeah, it takes
all weird. Well, your mom

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is a gift anyway, so yeah, yeah, we just eat good dinner

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and she cooks, and so Christmas
is kind of nice now too. But

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yeah, you get like gift anxiety
or something or yeah, gift like yeah,

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regret or yeah, all of it's
there's weird emotions around it. And

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I feel like if you have a
giant family, which a lot of people

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do, and they'll do like the
Uh, it's gonna sound racist because I

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might get a wrong white elephant,
black elephant. It's white elephant. Yeah,

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yeah, I've never done one of
those, but yeah, you have

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a family of thirty people, which
a lot of my homies do you know,

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they have cousins and they all do
it together. That's a little more

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fun. I think that takes the
pressure off, right, because no one's

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choosing for you, and then there's
no disappointment on either end. Yeah,

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a shit gift, because gift giving
can be hard if you're like, unless

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you're super close, I feel like, well, yeah, this is over

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and a whole can of worms here. The uh, the thing that that

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my White's family does, and that's
kind of we've primarily you know, even

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even my folks before they passed,
you know, would would jump in with

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my with my in laws for for
holidays, Christmas Eve, there's too many

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people and it's everybody brings one gift
and uh, then you it's all in

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a pile and we pick a way
to do it. Usually it's like youngest,

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the oldest, whatever, and you
choose one gift. And after last

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year, we finally had to make
a rule of no wide elephants, no

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gag gifts or whatever, because like
you could put a lot of time and

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thought into like putting in your your
exchange gift and have somebody else pick something

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shitty. Yeah, and you get
something shitty and you're like, fuck this,

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why did I bother? But then
like, yeah, how do you

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choose a gift for like thirty people? Kind of yeah, like a Starbucks

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gift card but then that's not like
that thoughtful but something everyone could use.

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Yeah, that gets weird. That's
what I mean. Like, if you

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really know someone, gift giving can
be cool because you make it all special

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and that's kind of fun. That
feels good, like general gift giving.

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Yeah, this is not to throw
shade on you know, everybody that I

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that I deal with in my family. Number One, I just I don't

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I'm not a big like gift giver
for other people's birthdays and stuff like that.

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That seems like bullshit to me,
but you know, it is what

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it is. But for for Christmas, I have seldom gotten anything that I

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thought was a like really me gift. Yeah, you know out and and

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I'm told that I'm hard to buy
for. I don't think so, And

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I would rather buy for myself.
I think I could make a tool little

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list if I had to, probably
so. Yeah, because gift giving is

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also a talent or not a talent, but like a skill. She got

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to put in some thought and then
you got to go a couple It's kind

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of like a joke. You know, you can't like hit it on the

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nose. You kind of have to
go one step to the side and kind

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of vibe out. I don't even
know. Yeah, birthdays, we don't

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do gifts either. I don't think. I don't think I like receiving gifts,

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So I just kind of made the
rules. You know. I'm just

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like kind of same, probably the
same reason. It's the same reason because

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it's like, you know, if
you knew me better, you would not

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think that that was an appropriate gift
for me. And then I think a

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lot of people that even that they
know me, I found this to be

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my whole life. I've shed go
into like powerlifting or music, and a

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lot of stuff I relate to is
about like kind of outcasts or people that

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don't fit in. But it's not
that I don't fit in. It's just

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that my friends aren't exactly like me. None of my friends are like me.

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Like you've met some of my friends
now, Like none of them are

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into the same shit really, or
a couple of them will be into like

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one thing that I'm into, like
a lot of my friends don't listen to

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the same music, Like my best
friends don't listen to the same music,

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aren't into clothes, aren't really into
cars, you know, like food,

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maybe food, but like one of
them. So then if they try to

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give for me, it's thoughtful,
not that this has really happened, but

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hypothetically the gift for me. But
it's always doesn't you know, it's not

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on the playground. It does end
up like shading the relationship a little bit

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if you get something that that just
just seems off and it's hard to give

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something that's right, And it really
sucks when you give somebody a gift and

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it doesn't land. Yeah, and
then you do yeah, you know,

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if you're doing a personal one,
you don't want to do the basic Starbucks

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gift card deal. No, no, you don't. Why don't they do

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registries for every holiday? That's exactly
a good point. Oh my god,

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I think we may have made the
They maybe just cut this part out and

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use this as the new business plan
Christmas registry would bang. That sounds like

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an amazing Santa Claus lists as a
kid, is that? Yeah? And

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which is genius? Actually, that's
a very commercial genius way to know what

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your kid wants. I think on
Amazon you can do a wish list that

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other people can see. Yeah,
that's kind of to just be online horrors

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doing it. Yeah, we're being
franky. Well yeah, there we go.

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That's uh. Yeah, if you're
hooring yourself out on the internet and

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not necessarily sexually, just in general
general whoror you don't have to be an

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only fans star. But yeah,
just all types of horror really helps sell

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outy horrors. And actually I'm not
that against it because if your fans want

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to buy your ship by all means. Because I had it on Twitch,

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it was cool you could sign up
for without like giving your location. You

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could sign up for your viewers to
buy you door Dash basically. Oh and

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it was an app like that you
would attach to Twitch. So that was

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cool. Up streaming for eight hours
and someone buy you a pizza? Yeah,

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buy me a coffee. Is one
of those people that's a cool idea.

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Yeah, but a registry for yeah, like whatever, holidays, fucking

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first Communion and fucking yeah winning boy
Scouts, whatever the hell these kids do.

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I don't know what the help people
do, but Christmas for sure,

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something specific where it's easy for people
to find you to get you. You

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know. Yeah, my parents were
good growing up. I remember being like

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crazy excited, like and they wouldn't. We weren't like wealthy, but they

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just do like the right shit,
ye know. Like I predominantly remember like

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multiple gifts in my brain that my
dad got me that were like it's fucking

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perfect. Yeah, I will say
that my uh you know, I said

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Sam, you know, and and
his wife very often give me very very

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on the nose things. Yeah,
for me, that's it. That's a

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good point. My wife and I
tend to instead of buying gifts for each

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other, we tend to find a
thing that we want to buy together.

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Yeah, or events, right if
you're Yeah, yeah, if I'm dating,

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like, an event makes more sense
a trip or a concert or a

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cool dinner. We're even doing that
where mom and Bart's birthday are on the

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same day, and it's Friday Saturday, and so we're just doing dinner Sunday

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all together. But I'm not gonna
get bored again. Yeah, he would

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just go do a fancy dinner,
you know. Yeah, everyone will enjoy

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it more. Anyways. Yeah,
for sure, my wife and I bought

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a piece of art that we're having
heavy framed because it was just the worst

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frame, ugly, super ugly frame. But like local artists, you know,

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decades long sack state art professor or
whatever, that's kind of yeah,

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kind of interesting and different or whatever, just very very on brand for us,

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and then we didn't have to think
about, you know, what's the

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right thing. Yeah, And I
mean I don't know, maybe I am

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a mystery in that regard, or
I think that the things I want I

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usually think about for a very long
time in park because they're expensive. Yeah

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yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
the other thing too, the older you

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get, you just want fancier shit. Yeah. So like I don't expect

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a car for Christmas, right,
that'd be crazy, But that's probably what

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do I you know, like what
do I want? I want to fucking

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like, I don't somebody rolled in
here? Yeah, yeah, I don't

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want a toy with a nine to
eleven. Yeah, it's much easier with

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a kid, and that's a classic
nine to eleven, you know, Yeah,

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that's still too un our cable.
I think we did a couple big

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Christmases in Cleveland, where I have
a bunch of cousins and shit, but

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only a handful growing up. And
I think we did one maybe when I

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was eighteen or a little bit older. And uh, I think we just

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did gifts for the kid kids.
I don't know what the age cut off

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was, but if you felt like
a kid, then everyone would just get

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you shit and the adults just kind
of, you know, had dinner and

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hung out. I think that's a
good plan too, because who's going to

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actually really like it, like you
know, your grandkids, right, Yeah,

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No, we have actually not even
had the discussion about what they want

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for Christmas out and then they have
to they're coming for Christmas and they're you

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know, over three thousand miles away, and then you have to get stuff

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home and buy it and ship it. Yeah, exactly. Or you know,

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we often just give give my son
the money and have him buy it

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and have it there, as opposed
to because the shipping is insanity. Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, I think we
did that too when I was a

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kid. Maybe they give me a
couple of things there, but then my

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aunts would just send me stuff to
Sacramento. I don't know. Yeah.

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Yeah. The bigger family you are
and the more friends you have just gonna

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buy everyone shit. No, you
just can't. You can't do that.

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Ye that and money wise and just
like energy wise. Yeah, but it

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is a consumer world. I mean
Black Friday sales started two weeks ago.

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Yeah, yeah, crack of November. Yeah, November. The first week

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of November. They put the tree
up in the Capitol, So I assume

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they did it in New York and
San Francisco and everywhere else. But I

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swear that was like a after Thanksgiving
deal. It did used to be,

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Yeah, but I've been trying to
maximize the retail season. That's literally all

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it is is you find like customer
habits and purchasing dates, and you open

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that door up wider. They're going
to spend more longer. Yeap keeps the

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ball rolling, for sure. We'll
sort of do two running here. We

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haven't. We haven't done two episodes
running where we did Rose and Thorn yet.

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So what's what's the week since the
last time we talked? Doesn't have

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to be this week since the last
time we talked, Banks, similar roses,

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teams, moving, power lifting meets
sold out for March, and deadlines

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are being hit. That's probably the
best thing. I'm still like stress,

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but like the deadlines are hit.
We got you know, all our care

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packs out, we got inventory,
we're revamping the website, which should be

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ready in time. Like all that
feels good. You think that's it.

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Thorn sleeps in whatever. Oh yeah, yeah, but you know, I

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don't know if it's changed the season
or stress or I'm still dieting, so

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lack of food always makes me sleep
a little, you know, Like you

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you go to bed on like fucking
three in and out burgers, You're gonna

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sleep so good. Yeah, but
you go to bed. Have you done

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the cottage cheese thing? Like their
case and at bedtime? I did case

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and shakes back in the day.
We're about to do a skit. I'll

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spoil it right here. I saw
some kid on TikTok. This is unrelated

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in some senses, but I saw
a kid on TikTok. He has like

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a bowl of ice, and uh
he does like a pretty good acting job

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to make it look yummy, and
he sprinkles bagel, all you everything,

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everything on the ice and just starts
chomping on. Oh my, So I'm

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gonna go. Kyle's actually bringing us
ice right now, and I'm just gonna

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have a bunch of protein on it
and try to eat it, I'll probably

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throw up or spit it out.
Maybe, so it would be a good

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video because that's kind of like how
it feels like I'm eating. You start

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to diet a lot, and you're
just like, dude, I eat one

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meal a day, that's it.
So then I go to bed hungry caught

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a cheese. I don't know.
I only really like in lasagna, I

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think, oh really, yeah,
like I don't really like it by itself.

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Interesting another white thing. You know, my mom made the lasagna with

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kind of cheese, but we used
ricotta. Yeah, my mom will do

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both. But I just love lasagna, man, so I'll eat it either

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way it's super thin noodle or like
even like stuff shells cheese or rocota and

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that I'll eat that. Yeah,
it just needs more shit. It's the

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same with cheese. I don't like. You know, I don't like a

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chacudery board. I need it like
on a burger. I need it on

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a pizza. I me and the
other day this is that checurdery boards are

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lunchables for millennials, I really are, And it seemed to get popular like

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with that gen like my generation,
Yeah, which I assume invented the Lunchible.

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Yeah probably, Yeah, I like
them. I like chicardiy Boards the

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lunchible guy, but I like sure
could boards. Yeah, if you're at

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a party, you know, at
the dinner party, it makes sense to

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have a fat one out when you're
having wine before dinner or some shit.

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I've seen a fancy restaurant. I
think I got introduced to them in Italy

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and I think that maybe did it. Sure made it kind of special in

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my head. Yeah, and they
got to be delicious and they got to

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be very delicious. Yeah, for
sure, I'm gonna go a lot.

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Yeah, my uh I had.
Speaking of sleep, I got one thorn

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that hit me at six forty this
morning. My wife burned toast in the

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kitchen while I was still asleep,
and it set off the fire alarms.

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Yeah, that's the worst. And
she's like it's all I get up and

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I'm like, ah, well,
number one, I sleep with ear plugs,

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and so I'm hearing a voice.
I'm hearing a woman's voice go on

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and on, you know, repeating
the same thing over and over again.

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I'm like, I'm in a dream
and I'm like, what the actual fuck

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am I listening to? Like,
what's happening around me. This dream is

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so fucking weird. And then I
realized that there's actually beeping going on as

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well, and so I pulled my
earplugs out and it's like, oh,

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shit, like the houses on fire. And I don't know what time it

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is, but it's a light.
There's a smell. It's a little bit

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light outside. Smell hadn't hit me
yet. I don't know. Anyway,

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though I got out there, my
wife is like, I just I only

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you know, it was only this
done and it's like black in the middle.

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It's like, yeah, because it
burned. That's why she said,

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Yeah, I just said, did
you toast it with a forest fire?

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I mean, what the hell?
But she apologized year the toaster has not

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apologized, so that's something makes it. Actually, I remember because you have

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like so many fire drills in high
school and shit, yeah, going up.

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Uh it was Henry actually, I
think who you met. He burnt

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the fuck out of some popcorn and
she was I think the sprinklers went off,

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like the whole school went crazy one
day and we're just like his dad

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was even the principal. Maybe not
at the time, but his dad turned

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out to be the princpal burnt the
shit out of this popcorn. The whole

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school's freaking the fuck out over some
popcorn. But yeah, I mean toast

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popcorn, microwave shit. Yeah,
a little smoke like crazy. Oh yeah

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yeah. Rolling back to what you
were saying earlier about your your friends,

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all of the friends that your childhood
friends that I've met are fucking cool people.

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They're like them, They're great people
and slowly migrating back here, which

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is wonderful. Not all, but
you' that's great. And the other thorn

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is like the shower head that I
just replaced like two months ago, when

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the men's bathroom was busted. Now, I don't know what happened. I

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don't know what people do with these
other getting freak. I don't know,

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we know. I mean, maybe
we're gonna have to go not handheld because

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maybe there's getting a little bit too
much activity with the hand toil. Yeah,

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who knows. You can't put some
security cameras back there wand up on

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some drama page. Oh my god, you have seen that, right,

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I've just heard about it happening multiple
times, but I assume that happens everywhere.

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What happened recently, I didn't know
that. But women's only gym.

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This guy had a wing guy runs
it. Yes, even that's alrea of

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a red flag, that's red flag
number one. Yeah, yeah, you

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really want to Yeah, you don't
want a guy to be involved in the

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women's own even though that's probably the
norm. But probably dude, probably so.

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But yeah, he had a mop
bucket in the in the women's restroom.

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He claims that people were stealing things
out of the bathroom. So your

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camera's one, So he put a
hit a camera in like the mop.

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Yeah, and of course it was
pointed right at the toilet. So well,

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then just take valuable shit out of
the bathroom. Yeah that' that'd be

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a step, right, I mean, toilet paper, for heaven's sake,

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So what are you keeping in the
bathroom? It's so yeah, yeah,

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and let it get ripped. I
mean even at the commercial gym I worked

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out was not in the greatest like
area, and we had a cabinet full

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of all the cleaning supplies kind of
outside of the bathrooms, and they get

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stolen all the time. You go
back there and all the windex has gone,

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all the toil. But like you
can't lock that stuff. I mean

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yeah, but and what are you
gonna do? You know, like they're

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not still in a computer, and
yeah, shit's gonna happen. You're at

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a huge commercial gym with people everywhere. Are gonna get fucked. I mean

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even here, I'm sure shit's got
sold that we didn't recognize. We heard

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there was a I don't know the
official term, so don't flame me,

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folks, but homeless man who had
been corrected with all the emails I write

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politicians in the city and ship,
they correct the term I use experiencing homelessness.

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Yeah. Yeah, it's even crazier
than that, the term that yield

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at me. But anyways, rumor
has it there's a homeless man stumping around

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town with a couple of our hats
on and ship. So who knows?

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Yeah, who knows what happened?
Probably yeah? Maybe? Oh did he?

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Oh well then that's why. But
I've heard from multiple members gave it

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to him because I had other members. I came up like, yeah,

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man, there's do in the corner
with your hair. I don't know,

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bro, the he's cold. That's
true free marketing, I guess, yeah,

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homeless love us? Yeah, so
do I have a rose? I

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don't know. I don't know.
I'm you know, I'm kind of looking

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forward to the holiday. Yeah,
okay, quick man, this was a

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fast year. I probably say it
every year, but it's maybe this year

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yet Maybe I don't know. For
me, it seems really long. Yeah,

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it seems super long this year,
because like I was in Europe for

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a month this year, and that
seems like it was a long time.

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Agoun. Yeah, a lot happened
in between it. Yeah, I feel

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like that's to balance. The brain's
so interesting because when a lot happens,

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it can feel very long, and
when a lot happens, it can feel

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very short, you know, because
it obviously speeds up time when you're busy.

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But yeah, I think I'm kind
of in that zone. I don't

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know. Yeah, it felt quick. And then you start thinking about Adam

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Sandler and the movie Click. Fuck
dude, how much of this life am

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I living? What's that face?
You never seen the movie Click? Because

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because he's just running through life,
not paying attention to like, not living

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in the now, and life just
keeps fast forwarding and fast forwarding. That's

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the whole moral of the story,
that my life moves too fast. Yeah,

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pretty fat, and you need to
tap in and like enjoy it that

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go watch click again, dude,
you go cry the in fairs Bueller.

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I don't know if I've seen Full
of All. It was a movie that

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was like a flow around on like
TNT and shit as a kid, so

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I'd watch bits and pieces of it. We may have to do that one

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as a I don't know if I
watched as a generational thing. What's the

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guy's name, super famous, Matthew
Broderick, Yeah, Broderick, Yeah,

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so have you without getting into the
specifics of the meat or the lifter,

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Yeah, and anybody but Garrett Fear
Yeah. I heard someone squatted high.

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Yeah, but I didn't watch the
Squad. I don't know why I did

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watch The Squad and maybe just stopped
caring. I don't know. I saw

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shure a boy Dan Bell maybe the
best part of for all time now,

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but Dan Bell posted on it and
agreed. Yeah, I saw the dramas

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running around, but it's happened so
many times, and I feel like if

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we got side shots of any meat
ever, we could do that, you

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know what I mean. Like there's
always critique after after IPF gnats, you

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know, judges being too strict or
having favorites or even at Arnold when we

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were there, I heard rustling in
the crowd about like, yeah, they're

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making show and so hold the bench
so long. I'm like, do you

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think they really have it out for
Timmy? Like no one gives a fuck

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up about you know, Johnny,
Nobody, Like, I don't think that

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the judges depending on the fed.
Some you know, no offense folks.

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Some are just like so old and
out of tune. They don't know who

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these lifters are. It's not like
they're on Instagram all day, you know.

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I think it's I think that they
get caught by inattention. I think

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that they're like it's more focus.
It's hard. Uh yeah, it's it's

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like a slow ass sport. Like
when you're refing basketball. I've wrote a

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good amount of games in my time, and like you're literally jogging and you're

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you're locked in because you're like part
of it. You're dodging balls and you're

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fucking talking and you're you're talking to
players. Hey watch that hand. You

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know, you're you're literally like almost
a player. Where powerlifting, you're just

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sitting there staring at a wall.
It's like literally watching grass grow. So

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a hundred percent. Uh understand them
getting bored this high squad. That was

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the thing, right it was a
record, not even a record whatever.

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No, And it doesn't really matter. The issue is more the reaction than

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I And and like, really one
I want to to ask is like is

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it fixable? And how are we
supposed to think about about records, squats

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whatever across federations. This is us
PC. So that's what I was going

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to bring up. If I'm you
know, a noble powerlifting analyst, like

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a young Garrett Fear who cares very
much about the sport, I might not

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even comment on it if it's not
in like one of the feds that are

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legit. See, that's my question, That is my real question, Like

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do we care if it's not in
a federation that we know has good judging

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Because that happened for a while was
RPS, the Green Fed. I feel

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like when when raw powerlifting started,
just crush numbers, Kevin O and Little

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Bird, Everyone's crushing numbers. Then
the RPS was like the only main one

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running meets out on the East coast, and they were the USPA was just

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starting to get there and we had
a couple of meets, but it was

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really USPA dominant with the Dan Greens
and Jeremy Hamilton's et cetera. And then

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and then the East Coast would have
the RPS and the judging just wasn't up

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to the same standard. So like
all these records can broke left and right,

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and yeah, they're all on a
different standard. Yeah, but that's

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been the issue the whole time,
right, Like, I think this one

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is in a monolift where a lot
of people now are starting to walk their

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shit out, whether it's WRPF or
not. But I mean the gold standards,

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the WRPF and the USAPL slash IPF. So if I'm commenting on it,

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I'm simply saying, Okay, you're
your best in your pond, right

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now, come to the WRPF pro
whatever's next, and do it again.

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Yeah. Right, if that guy's
my competitor, or if I'm an analyst,

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that's like the same thing. Like
if some guy's going absolutely crazy in

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European basketball, ESPN is gonna be
say like, that's amazing and you're really

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good, but it doesn't count un
till you get here, come to the

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NBA and let us know, you
know, and that doesn't really happen.

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Like even the Kings just you know, signed the European MVP heere I forgot

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exactly what league, but maybe Italy. But he's on our team now and

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you know he's doing okay, Yeah, he's shitting on folks over there.

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So it's the same idea with these
other FEDS, like there's no one.

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The only one you can make the
argument is the USA pl I p F

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one because that's newly broken off.
But any other FED, I think if

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you want to take a record,
you got to go compete against where the

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studs are, and that's where the
sport is. Back in the day,

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you couldn't right back in the day, travel, lack of meats, money,

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all these things are an issue.
But now if you're that guy,

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you're gonna get a sponsorship. You
can find somebody to pay your way there,

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you can. You can bundle it
up. Like the sport's changed in

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that sense where you don't have to
break a record in your own backyard,

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so then travel and show up.
You know. That's that's all I would

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say, rather than like calling out
a high squad is yeah, it needs

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to be done. It needs to
because Karen is an analyst, like that's

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kind of his gig in this thing, right, He's the Stephen A Smith

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or whatever the fuck of power thing. So I might not always agree with

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Garrett, I'm always going to support
him because he's doing a hard thing,

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yea, and he cares kind of
he's kind of doing the Lord's work in

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a lot of ways. Yeah,
And I don't think he has ill intent

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with anything he ever does. He
just loves powerlifting more than I ever will.

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So someone's got to do it,
and he could be a wild card.

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I like a disruptor. I hate
I hate meaningless of disruptions, but

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I like a disruption that that like
tries to push things forward. Yeah.

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I think that's what he's trying to
do. He's trying to get the standardization.

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But like you know, until I
don't know what it's going to take.

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But until I guess there's enough meets
in every state by the WFPI for

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whatever federation was never won, and
until there's like a clear line from kind

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of rookie to getting paid and being
the best in a federation, there's always

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going to be someone else thinking they
can start a league. Yeah, and

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back in the day, I mean
kind of the only places that you could

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look at records and the only sort
of arbiters of what the what the actual

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like all time records were where the
magazine Powerlifting USA and Parlating Watch. Yeah,

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Parliating Watch is a lost gem.
We have Open Powerlifting, which is

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cool, and they do an insane
amount of data and statistics. Well,

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I think that I think that some
of the controversy. I don't know the

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the open parliating guys, but some
of the controversy comes in the fact that

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they list, you know, basically
what they're given. Yeah, right,

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right, and which I think if
you're doing stats is what you have to

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go by. I think so too. But but they got white lights.

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Yeah, you gotta take it.
Yeah, But that's that hypes it up

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because like, oh, it's a
legitimate because it's on there. Yeah,

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And you have to as a discerning
consumer of like you know, powerlifting judging,

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you have to know that sometimes it's
going to be bs. Yeah.

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I think we need a little UFC
type shit, you know, get a

407
00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:48.920
little Twitter fingers And whoever, what
weight class was he two seventy five or

408
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:52.920
something? Whoever that fucking other two
seventy five is I'm on this dude's ass

409
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:55.680
on Twitter. Yeah, you know, I think that's what the sport kind

410
00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:56.599
of needs. One a little bit
of hype. It doesn't have to be

411
00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:00.440
negative, and it doesn't have to
come out to fucking slashing tires and fighting,

412
00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:03.240
but you know, let a little
competitiveness come out. If I'm if

413
00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:06.839
I'm a good two seventy five or
even a top five, I'm probably chomping

414
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:08.319
at that guy. Yeah, I've
just never been good enough a power left

415
00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:11.200
to let a rip, but I
would let a rip. Man. Hey,

416
00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:14.599
bro, that's cool. You're over
there in the fucking pee wee leagues.

417
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:17.160
Yeah, come over here to the
WRPF before we get judged tight and

418
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:18.759
let's go head to head. I'll
buy your entry or something. You know.

419
00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:21.880
I would, I would be doing
shit like that. I think that

420
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:25.960
would be good for the sport.
Russ Russ Swoll and that kind of squad's

421
00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:27.759
one that talks about it a lot
too, and I think Garrett as well,

422
00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:30.599
where like not that you need shit
talk, but you kind of need

423
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:37.000
storylines, and storylines only really come
with like off the field drama in a

424
00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:41.079
sense of adversity of some kind of
competitiveness. Yeah, you need a rival

425
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:44.839
in a way, right and if
no one's you know, you can all

426
00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:45.880
be friends. You can have a
beer afterwards. I don't give a shit,

427
00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:48.559
or you know, say in the
leagues like that too, you know,

428
00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:52.920
like Lebron James and Kevin Durant are
buddies, but they're gonna talk a

429
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:55.400
little mess, you know, and
they're definitely gonna try to win. Yeah,

430
00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:57.359
Kevin Rant came out recently, which
is an interesting quote. I think

431
00:25:57.400 --> 00:26:03.039
he said, uh, because the
biggest knock on the NBA now is maybe

432
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:07.160
similar to the powerlifting or powerlifting in
the West Side days. Guys would fight

433
00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:10.559
and you know, you hate each
other in NBA too. You know,

434
00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:15.519
there's numerous videos of Jordan's shoving guys
and talking shit where they say, now

435
00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:18.519
because the Internet age or maybe the
soft generation or whatever, that they're all

436
00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:22.759
friends. And Kevin Durant I think
it was literally last week because he played

437
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.480
Lebron and they're smiling and high five
en after the game or whatever. People

438
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.880
talk shit on that, say yo, like Larry Bird would never, you

439
00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:32.519
know, Jordan would never. And
he said, oh, which you guys

440
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:36.440
don't know, is that friends actually
want to win more. That makes sense,

441
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:38.119
which which I see a side.
I don't know if I was ever

442
00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:44.119
like that, because there's you know, you grow up playing basketball long enough,

443
00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:48.119
you're going to see the same kids
everywhere, whether it's college or leagues

444
00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:51.079
or charity tournaments or whatever. And
so there's a couple of guys that would

445
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:55.920
become friendly without you know, you'd
give a mutual respect, but came recognize

446
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:57.559
the game. Yeah kind of.
But I don't know if I ever I

447
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:00.119
don't know if my friends on the
other team, if I want to beat

448
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:03.400
them more than a guy I hate
hate pretty powerful man, you guys,

449
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.359
go go watch episode three, you
know, obi wan, I'll fucking show

450
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:12.480
you that HET's powerful. Yeah.
So I don't know about that in powerlifting,

451
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:15.960
but if I'm whoever two seventy five
ers or whoever this dude is,

452
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.440
I'd call his asset right now.
Yeah. It's a couple of other things

453
00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:21.559
that Garrett said that I agree with. Like he said, if somebody gave

454
00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:23.839
me the white lights, I would
take him to Yeah, you can't always

455
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:26.799
blame the lifter. Even though a
couple of people have denied world records based

456
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.240
on bad performances of their own.
I forgot who that was. But a

457
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.039
couple of years ago, someone squad
a world record and said, nah,

458
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:36.559
it wasn't up to my own standard. But the only thing too And obviously

459
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:37.880
I'm not on their strength level,
so I can't say, but there are

460
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.960
lifters that get do it consistently.
Is just like, if you train to

461
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:47.000
standard, you'll compete to standard.
That makes sense, you know what I

462
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:48.960
mean? So like, why are
you having this moral standard issue with what

463
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:52.960
white lights you've given? If you
know you lift good, yeah, yeah,

464
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:55.880
you know, like yeah, you're
always going to be nervous to hit

465
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:57.920
death. But like I feel like
it shouldn't be as much of a conversation

466
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:03.200
as it is. Just train,
just train better, train more standard.

467
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:04.119
I mean we see it in here
all the time. People squad high at

468
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:07.039
ship and I'm like, well,
good luck at your meat you know,

469
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:10.240
yeah, And that's that was obviously
the big thing with the geared era is

470
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:14.319
that it was really hard to squat
to depth period, let alone, it

471
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:15.519
would it would take so much out
of you if you did it in training,

472
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:22.000
yeah, and then but then doing
it on meat day you would try

473
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.039
uh to soordiating you down there and
kind of rely on the fact that somebody

474
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:29.119
who's gonna be you a gift,
and that's yeah, you just judgment.

475
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:32.440
At least we'll give you a gift. Yeah, the sports obviously it's almost

476
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:33.759
just a different sport. But yeah, you're just hoping to stand up not

477
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.839
die. Yeah, exactly, we're
like raw. I mean, if you're

478
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.759
raw, especially with sleeves let alone, I mean raps. Still you can

479
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:44.759
be so consistent. You know,
there's just so many less factors than a

480
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:48.359
squat suit. So just fucking squad
normal and and and how the sports progress.

481
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.799
You know, people are they're going
nine for nine, you know,

482
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:55.880
they're coming well planned out. They're
not. They're not coming in you know,

483
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:59.680
on a coin flip. And the
same with regular sports. You know,

484
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.880
it's just it's just grown. You're
you're not going into an NBA game

485
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.599
championship and shooting a shot you've never
shot before. You know, you're doing

486
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:11.400
shit. You're not. You don't
not throw a curveball season. Now you're

487
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:12.599
in the World Series, right,
you're like, I'm gonna let this one

488
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:15.599
rip. Like no, like you're
throwing the pitches you have in your pocket.

489
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.599
It's not like a marathon where you're
not running. You're not really running

490
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.440
twenty six miles before you, before
you the marathon, your even that twelve

491
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:26.720
thirteen and yeah yeah, yeah even
yeah even that's like just a mental test

492
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.319
because the variables are so gone.
But yeah, yeah, that that is

493
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:32.279
kind of how I was raised on
it too, like, oh, you

494
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:33.960
hit five hundred and training good,
you'll be good for five fifty on game

495
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:37.119
day? Like, oh will you
like that is kind of how they thought.

496
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.759
That did happen to me? But
yeah, yeah, it happened to

497
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:42.799
me too, Like most of my
prs are are in meat, so get

498
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.119
all revved up, and I wouldn't
be reripped up in training and and the

499
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.319
style of training we did. But
nowadays it's just not like that because people

500
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.480
are so competitive that you kind of
have to go, you know, seven,

501
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.759
eight, nine for nine to even
have a chance. So the untested

502
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:57.720
world is a little bit different still, but I think a lot of them

503
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:02.279
are evolving that you have a game
plan, you got to follow it out.

504
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:07.079
But I just don't get I guess
I don't get squatting high as a

505
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:10.119
thing, especially if you're like the
best, right because normally, like it's

506
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:15.319
the only sport where the best are
can off, not it's the only sport

507
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:21.079
where the best in the sport may
not be the most skilled. Oh yeah,

508
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:22.160
right, right, Like, whoever
this guy is, I don't know

509
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.039
who he is. Sorry if I'm
ripping you, buddy, maybe we're even

510
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:26.920
buddies for all I fucking know.
But well we're not saying his name,

511
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.480
so we're over. Yeah. I
didn't even like click on it. I

512
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:30.599
didn't even look. I just I
did watch it, but I didn't like

513
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:34.359
memorize the name or anything. And
I'm intentionally keeping that part vague. It's

514
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:37.319
just sort of a broader discussion about
it, because like Steph Curry's the fucking

515
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.880
best. Like, you're not gonna
out dribble or out shoot Steph Creek because

516
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:42.359
he's the best, so then he's
gonna score the most points. But someone

517
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:47.119
in powerlifting can like score the most
points. And I'm a better squatter than

518
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:48.880
them. Yeah, because they're not
they're not a technical squad. Yeah,

519
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.640
they're just like not skilled at all
a brute strength. Yeah, yeah,

520
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.000
they just have genetics or steroids that
Yeah, other folks don't have, you

521
00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:00.200
know, which is weird. Maybe
that happens in football sometimes, but rarely

522
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.559
happens in any sport. Baseball definitely
won't happen. Like, you have to

523
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.000
be the skill. You have to
be the best to be the best,

524
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:07.839
And in this sport, you could
be the strongest and be the worst.

525
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:14.920
Like you could be very unskilled,
untalented, unexperienced, unscerebral about at all

526
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.000
and somehow get a world record.
Yeah. I used to say, never

527
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:19.799
follow a freak. Yeah yeah,
yeah, you can literally just be a

528
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:23.240
freak, And we say that in
other sports. But like people say,

529
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:26.920
Lebron's a freak, but he's also
just as skilled as he is freaky.

530
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.440
That's the only way, Yeah,
right, Because I've played with guys that

531
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:32.599
were like freaky like Lebron, but
had no skill, and then they're in

532
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.160
junior college. Yeah you know what
I mean, they're jumping through the roof.

533
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.599
They're six six, two hundred and
twenty pounds, jacked out of the

534
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.119
brains, but they don't have that
skill, so you don't get there.

535
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:41.759
We're powerlifting. You can sneak your
way through, even strong man. I

536
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.240
don't think you can sneak your way
through anymore. Yeah, you know,

537
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:48.279
because the game's evolved. Yeah maybe
back in the day, you're just a

538
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.799
brute. Yeah, and the technique
hasn't caught up. But now all those

539
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:53.920
guys are technical as shit with the
stones and technical as shit with the log

540
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:59.160
right, so they're strong and technical, you're screwed. Another point that Garrett

541
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.279
made, I thought that was interesting, and it certainly it's something that I've

542
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:06.079
observed in the in the untested world, in the geared world or whatever,

543
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:15.759
especially back in the multiplay days,
that lifters would be positive to each other

544
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:21.640
in person and maybe positive about somebody
else's you know, high squad or bench

545
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:25.000
that wasn't locked out or deadlift that
wasn't locked out or whatever on social media,

546
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:30.359
and then privately to their to their
other friends, talk shit, talk

547
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:35.960
shit. And I saw that more
often than I think that's just human nature,

548
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.680
probably because I'm also the one like
I just hate conflict. I'm not

549
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:42.759
gonna like, I'm not going to
also rain on your parade in person.

550
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:45.319
Yeah, you know, like if
you get white lights and I think you're

551
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:47.319
squat high, I'm not about to
just run up to you and be like

552
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:50.880
Jim, that squad sucked. Yeah, you know what I mean. So

553
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:55.480
not that I think talking behind someone's
back is good. Yeah, let's social

554
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.839
media ring a little bit, you
know, I think there is a time

555
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:05.359
to be a keyboard warrior in the
sense that you don't need to get into

556
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.000
fist fights in person. Yeah,
but you also don't need to be fake

557
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:13.240
in person. You can be neutral
in person and then you know, be

558
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.319
a little more truthful online because it
is just easier. Like it's you know,

559
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:17.640
what are you gonna do if you're
at that meeting that guy squat site.

560
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:21.200
I don't think Garrett's walking up to
him either and saying, hey,

561
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:23.359
bro, that fucking sucked. He
may not, I don't know, you

562
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:25.799
know, like maybe at the bar
after hcause I think he's got beat up

563
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:29.119
for shit like that. But like, you know, I don't know.

564
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:34.400
I I do agree with the general
point of not being you know, a

565
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.720
sleeves ball and talking shit behind people's
back. But I also don't think you

566
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:42.119
just go straight up to them and
say they're like, yo, that's up.

567
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.559
That's not going to solve anything either, Yeah, for sure, you

568
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:47.759
know, but I think they only
solved the only real answer, And that's

569
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:52.440
what I always look for in anything
business. That lifting the you're right,

570
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:53.559
we have a problem. How do
you solve it? Is? Is other

571
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:58.160
two seventy five ers or whoever's in
this dude's weight class, like politely,

572
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:01.079
not politely call him out in the
sense you need to challenge them, don't

573
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:04.000
just say like you know, I'm
better on you, bro, say hey

574
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.759
man, great squad. I don't
think it was up to standard company me

575
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:10.480
at w RPF Pennsylvania. I'll pay
your entry. Let's go ahead to head,

576
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.400
you know, and then and then
and then either the guy shows up

577
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.920
and he does it better or you
just don't show up. The rest will

578
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:22.760
answer itself, and that's how the
UFC works. I feel like, yeah,

579
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:24.159
I think that's true too, right, Like guys call each other out

580
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:29.199
that aren't always going for the belt. You know you're ranked ten, you'll

581
00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:31.079
call out the six guy like that
kind of that kind of matters, and

582
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:34.920
one it will build a story and
then two you'll see what people are made

583
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:38.159
of. I think that's the competitiveness
we need. So I think the bottom

584
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:42.039
line for me is that you just
don't have to pay attention to every single

585
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:45.760
one of these. Yeah, like
you should definitely, like on social media,

586
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:52.199
should be congratulatory for the people who
set records, break records, you

587
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:58.800
know, lift in a in an
admirable way in uh, conditions where the

588
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:02.280
judging is a pair carently spot on
kind of regardless of where the where the

589
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:06.760
the federation. If you can look
at a video when you say yeah,

590
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:08.760
that looks right, Yeah, that
looks right, then then congratulate. But

591
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:15.480
it doesn't necessary if you're not personally
involved, if you're not personally if you're

592
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:19.199
not a commentator the way Garrett is
or whatever. Yeah, so that's the

593
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.360
amendment. I guess to my keyboard
warrior thing like, you got to you

594
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:23.920
gotta have skin in the game.
Yeah, exactly, Like Garrett's been to

595
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:28.519
every meat on the planet. He's
memorized everyone's prs that's ever lifted a weight

596
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:30.679
in their life, right, Like, Garrett's got more skin in the game

597
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:34.760
than most as a competitor, but
definitely as an analyst, you have to

598
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.480
be around the sport and be in
the sport. You can't compete once and

599
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:39.360
now be critiquing the strongest in the
world, you know, like train with

600
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:42.800
some cats, be around the game
a bit, you know, same with

601
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.960
like those. Most analysts have either
started at high school, college like Steven

602
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:50.800
A. Smith, I imagine been
reporting basketball for fifty years, right,

603
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.920
like starting in college to basketball to
pro and if they're not, they played

604
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:57.880
pro right. And now you have
Shannon Sharp's a big voice in sports,

605
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:01.639
like they have skin in the game. Critique isn't always perfect, but at

606
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:07.880
least it has thought behind it.
Yeah, I'm not for random keyboard warriors,

607
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:09.159
but have you got Yeah, if
you're a big squatter, if you've

608
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:12.639
been around the sport, if you're
an analyst, yeah, I think your

609
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.199
voice matters to hopefully evolve the sport
at the right place. Well, I

610
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:17.639
got one more department. I want
to roll out here for the first time.

611
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:22.480
And I'm stealing this the title of
this from other podcasts, but we're

612
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:29.480
gonna do it our own way that
I'm calling this three things, So three

613
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:37.519
social media accounts that are not in
the fitness space that you enjoy most.

614
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:49.280
And I just followed a sick one
yesterday. I got you guys this one.

615
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:54.840
I think I don't know where I
stole it. Maybe on my Discovery

616
00:36:55.599 --> 00:37:04.599
non fitness you said, non Fitness
Star. I hate sometimes I do feel

617
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:07.039
like a gate keeper hipster that I
don't want to share, but I'll get

618
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:13.159
over it. Star World Lab okay, And they just do like crazy shit

619
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:17.840
in the world, just like anything
from there's like a new island that just

620
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:21.960
formed the Pacific. Did you see
that? No, So some volcano went

621
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:28.159
crazy and literally formed a new island
six hundred and twenty miles south of Tokyo.

622
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:34.320
So it does stuff like that.
Or Kanye West built a whole studio

623
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:37.159
in the middle of nowhere, Saudi
Arabia and like some oasis city they post

624
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:43.840
about that. There's like these fucking
blue Java bananas, just like crazy.

625
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:46.440
This is the texture doesn't look really
weird. This is the texture. Flavor

626
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:50.800
is vanilla ice cream and it's a
natural fruit. So it just posts like

627
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:54.159
crazy, kind of mind bending type
shit. I really like that. I'm

628
00:37:54.159 --> 00:38:00.239
trying to think of another good one
that I have Recently. I follow a

629
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:04.360
lot of dog ones like Rescues kind
of makes me sad and not sad.

630
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.800
Mm hmm, let's see another one. A lot of them are like fashion

631
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.760
e too. If you guys don't
know who Mao Wolf is, Mao Wolf's

632
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.559
a decent follow. Mao Wolf is
like a artist, but they put on

633
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:23.039
like like interactive exhibit museum type things, and so he has some really trippy

634
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:28.280
art direction y posts that are really
cool. If you guys have heard I

635
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:30.679
think it's is a Era fifteen,
Area fifty one, Area fifty one,

636
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:34.800
No, like the exhibition, Oh
exhibition, I don't know. I think

637
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.280
it might be Area fifteen. It
might be Area fifty one too, But

638
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:43.199
it's basically like a like a super
interactive like in person almost video game treasure

639
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:45.559
hunt you can do in this crazy
looking building. And that's him. That's

640
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:50.280
in Vegas. I forgot what it
was called, but yeah, Mao Wolf

641
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:55.000
would be another good one. It's
another good follow. I'm just scrolling around

642
00:38:55.039 --> 00:39:07.159
like crazy. Yeah, I follow
a bunch of random ship I do too,

643
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:14.880
but I mean there's some basic ones. Oh shout out my boy dude.

644
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:15.639
I haven't met him yet, but
I wanted. His name is Andrew

645
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:22.480
Dutton ad underscore sneaks. Uh.
He's a teacher, but he does like

646
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.480
sneaker and fashion photography on the sign
on the side, and his photography is

647
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:29.400
insane. I followed him a couple
of months ago. I like his content

648
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:31.920
a ton ad Underscore sneak. Shout
out to Andrew. Uh. He looks

649
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.920
like he's maybe about my age and
he's just a grade school teacher, but

650
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:39.760
he's super into like clothes and shit
and his photography is insane. If you

651
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:46.400
guys are into shit like that,
maybe him, Okay, you got my

652
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:51.239
number number one. It's not fitness, it is it's a sport, but

653
00:39:51.280 --> 00:40:01.079
not not fitness, is uh.
Ash Watson, former uh British uh gymnastics

654
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:07.159
champ. Uh little guy I mean, I mean he's short. Yeah,

655
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:12.039
he's probably taller than matter here,
but that's also very short but uh,

656
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:17.719
you know, and and pretty thick
for for gymnastics, like not in the

657
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:22.639
you know, a lot of gymnasts
are are jacked, but they're but they're

658
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.800
frame is small. This is a
bigger framed guy who is a small guy

659
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:30.599
at the same time. Yeah.
Uh, And a lot of his account

660
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:39.639
is uh trying different gymnastics things that
are done by women or done by by

661
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:49.239
really high level like performing Yeah,
yeah, exactly, exactly. Just try

662
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:51.079
to do the trick. He just
tays it over. You see, can

663
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:52.920
watch it doing him doing it over
and over and again until he until he

664
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:59.199
finally nails it. And he's not
shy about showing you like an ugly fail.

665
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:01.440
I can't do that. I don't
know why this shit scares me,

666
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:06.119
So I just feel like a joint
is going to get dislocated somewhere. Uh

667
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:08.199
yeah, yeah, I think that's
possible. I haven't seen anything terrible like

668
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:13.280
that happening except out he'd post himself
can wrecked. Probably not, but like

669
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:16.199
he I mean, they also do
a lot of you know, there's a

670
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:19.760
lot of pads down like that,
and it's like he's not He's not gonna

671
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:22.199
break his neck probably. Yeah.
I'll just watched like yeah, like Travis

672
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.880
Pastrana and even th that Sean White
stuff. You see them like practicing over

673
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:29.039
and over. Yeah, it just
makes me like cringe, like all dude,

674
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:31.280
I know something bad's about to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Another one

675
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:36.239
of my like very long time favorites
is Smoking Tire. Yeah they're good.

676
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:39.119
Matt Farrah, what's your YouTube A
good amount? Yeah, yeah, just

677
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:43.199
because they'll do like old BMW's and
cool shit and yeah, they'll grab like

678
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:45.719
a random kid who stooped up his
car and take them for a drive.

679
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:50.360
Yeah. And I mean his his
social media is good, does a lot

680
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.239
of cool stuff. There's a lot
of food and and and stuff in his

681
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:58.039
social media. And then the YouTube
videos are are are good. Yeah.

682
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:01.760
Probably the thing that hooked me years
ago, probably fuck probably twelve years ago,

683
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.679
is how much fun he has doing
this stuff. Yeah, it seems

684
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.079
like he's still passion over, still
a lot a lot of laugh, a

685
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:15.440
lot of you know, uh,
just just pure enjoyment of what he's doing.

686
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.880
And it's got it and you know, it's work. People forget that

687
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:24.400
content creation is straight up work,
very much so. And I'm gonna have

688
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:29.440
oops, this is loud all of
a sudden. I'm hoping that I can

689
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:34.239
remember I just watched this guy this
morning. I follow him on TikTok.

690
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.840
Actually, you know what I'm gonna
I'm gonna do another one. I'll save

691
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:43.119
this one for another time. Another
one that I really enjoy is nobody cares

692
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:52.360
Anthony. He It's largely like signs
or or ads or whatever. They have

693
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:58.039
like outrageous typos in them, and
he's got he's from Boston. He's got

694
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:04.039
a really like thick Boston accent,
and it's they're just fucking hysterical. I

695
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:07.119
wonder, yeah, I wonder if
people like that can monetize enough that they

696
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.840
get to travel and find signs or
it's really repurposing online. It's a really

697
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:14.880
good question. I don't know,
And probably the reason that that I'm mentioning

698
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:16.639
him as opposed to a couple of
the other ones. Is like, yesterday,

699
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:22.239
I think he had a post about
either. I don't know. It

700
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:24.960
does not very clear. And this
is a thing about social media. You

701
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:28.480
know, when somebody posts about somebody
in their life who died, you don't

702
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:32.480
always know what the what the relationship
was, and you seldom know how they

703
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:36.760
died or whatever, so they's no
cautionary tale that can be taken there.

704
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:40.719
You know, accidents and cancer seemed
to be like the leading causes if you

705
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:45.840
actually hear something. But I think
it was supposed yesterday that he lost a

706
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:50.559
girlfriend or wife or whatever like six
years ago, and it was like it

707
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.960
was a you know, very sweet
sentimental post that show you that the person

708
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:58.039
has more than what you're seeing.
Yeah, a little out of the content.

709
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:01.719
Yeah yeah, and you just you
know, obviously if you're a human

710
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:06.599
with empathy, you you resonate with
that, start to relate a little bit.

711
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:10.079
Yeah, But generally there's so like
laugh out loud funny the you know

712
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:14.519
I see somehow on my discovery,
maybe not him, but random signs that

713
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:20.960
are funny. Yeah. Just there
was a there was a Facebook marketplace ad

714
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:24.480
that he was talking about the other
day, and it was somebody was selling

715
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:30.159
a TV, a you know,
flat screen TV's a woman. She took

716
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:36.440
a picture of the TV. But
she is buck naked and a reflection or

717
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:40.880
something. Yeah, oh yeah,
oh yeah, and she's got like her

718
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.639
her nipples and her hips are touching
pretty much nice. Yeah, He's like,

719
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:51.039
it's like they're extra limbs of Facebook
fling that. This is a really

720
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:52.440
good question. I don't know,
because they're not paying attention. I don't

721
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:55.400
know. I'm sure I got it
at some point. That's wild. Yeah.

722
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:59.599
He was even like turning the telling
you to turn the picture in different

723
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.320
ways. You can like see different
things if you keep turning it, and

724
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:07.440
you know a lot of you know, just funny stuff. We I should

725
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:09.760
mention this because I'm sure nobody got
it. But the episode that we did

726
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:16.199
last week that we were just housekeeping, there's one of his repeating bis,

727
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:22.480
is this like sign that says house
kipping, house skipping, house skipping?

728
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:25.760
You just automatically reading an accident.
Yeah, exactly. It's because it's written

729
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:31.440
phonetically basically. So, but yeah, that's about all I got. Go

730
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