April 30, 2025

How YouTubers covered the downfall of a Scientologist’s skateboard channel | Examining media about cults

How YouTubers covered the downfall of a Scientologist’s skateboard channel | Examining media about cults

The founder of the biggest YouTube skateboarding channel is a Scientologist. Has that fact become public, explaining the channel's drop in popularity over the past few years? Was it the money he spent climbing the rungs of this cult (and not on his...

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The founder of the biggest YouTube skateboarding channel is a Scientologist. Has that fact become public, explaining the channel's drop in popularity over the past few years? Was it the money he spent climbing the rungs of this cult (and not on his skaters and staff)? Or was it just the normal life cycle of a YouTube channel?

Rather than reviewing a documentary, this time we’re examining the handling of this story through several YouTube explainers and exposes. What do these have in common with real docs? Do we get any closer to understanding what happened with Aaron Kyro and Braille Skateboarding?

Videos discussed during this episode:

https://youtu.be/uEk_pc0xVYc?si=hdfiZY6W_hF2aMuE

https://youtu.be/V-GIyKIlL9g?si=7aOy3qXiK4Vzf55h

https://youtu.be/ZF0p1aXqm8M?si=gmCxuRmGNznwSQzW

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Some of us has a Birdman bat. Like, we were

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just talking about Lars Anderson up front. Oh yeah, I

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just pulled it. I was like, I was like, I

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wonder if Kyle brought it because we were talking about it,

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and then I just told Sabas a whole story. He's like,

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oh no, I had no clue. I was like, dude,

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we were literally just talking about it five days ago

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with the sam bat the or the Birdman bat. We

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were talking about Lars Anderson from Jesuit. Oh yeah, and

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he made his own company and he said he bought

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it in high school.

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Holy shit.

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Yeah. So random.

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So I don't want to go too far down this

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this rabbit hole, but I had a conversation yesterday before

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we came in to record with one of our members,

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who it turns out, trained with Greg Anderson at the

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same time that Barry Bonds did across the street from Balco. Yeah,

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and was in the house when Vic Tricanti was there

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the day after he'd been on sixty minutes naming names,

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and Barry Bonds came in and it was apparently a

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very tense and heated discussion that he could not hear

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all of.

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But we're talking what h like Palo Alto Ish.

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Yeah, uh, not Palo alto Ish, but I mean Ish. Yeah,

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not Palto though, he said. And I can't remember.

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Yeah, I don't know the exact city all that went down,

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but I know Silicon.

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Valley it was. It was fascinating to me.

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He was probably in high school. He was just twenty Yeah, yeah,

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I remember that is yeah at.

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The time, just like that was a wow moment for me.

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Yeah, that whole area is kind of a weird thing.

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I think we talked about on Eric already. But like

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the so many like obviously the easy ones, the Barry

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Bonds Tom Brady connection, like same high school, same area,

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but Jeremy Lyn's from that area. I mean an insane

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amount of athletes are from that area.

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But uh, okay, where was it Berlin game?

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Yeah, Berlin Game. I think it was the first city

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my mom moved to. Oh really, I think so.

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Yeah, very south of south of South San Francisco.

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Yeah, I think we had a home there for a bit.

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Anyway.

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Uh, just a very interesting conversation, particularly for me because

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I was a you know, I watched I never read

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Game of Shadows, and I feel like I probably should have,

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but I think I was kind of pissed at the

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way that it all came down, and it was very

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much to me, like who cares?

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I wonder why the conversation just died like steroids. I

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even remember it being in like more than Mark McGuire stuff.

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I was probably in like sixth seventh grade. Maybe I

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didn't watch I watched baseball, okay, am out with the

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stair Royd thing was such a big you know as everywhere. Yeah,

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and then like I feel like people don't even talk

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about it anymore in mainstream sports, like they think testing

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just got that good. It just disappeared.

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I don't know, I don't know, I mean probably downplayed.

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There was a great April Fool's Day joke about Aaron

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Judge that somebody posted saying that he had been sanctioned

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for eighty games, like can't play for eighty games because

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of of a PD test, so harsh allegation of April

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was like, because it it almost gets you just like, yeah,

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I kind of believe it, Like no, actually maybe not.

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I mean just he's just a freak outlier athlete. A

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lot of the guys just don't look that crazy anymore.

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So I guess maybe that's why I want to talk

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about it. You know, like they don't look like Mark

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McGuire did. Like Mark McGuire was literally looking like fucking

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Batista or some shit. I saw a meme similar thing

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of Barry Bond's coming back to take his record with

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the New Bat like New New Bats in Town, Berry's

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coming coming from retirement.

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Uh, an interesting thing to me.

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He said that Berry was kind of hot and cold running,

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and I think that that's I've heard that before, but

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from different people, that sometimes he was friendly and whatever,

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and other times he was really not, and it was

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difficult to tell which one you were gonna get.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, people say similar things with Jordan, and

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I think when you're on that high level of of

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brain waves, you know, you're probably thinking of moving a

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little different.

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He said though, that he he worked his ass off

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in the gym I'd imagine, which which you can believe.

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Yeah, yeah, he got real jacked. Yeah, McGuire is obviously

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jacked out of his fucking brains. You just don't see

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like like O Tawny and stuff is like obviously very fit. Yeah,

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but you would never say, like, god, damn, that guy's jacked,

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you know. Yeah, it's fit.

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Yeah, home home runs are maybe more about more about

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eyesight and and reflex sure then they are pure strength.

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Yeah. Yeah, it's like golf. But but if you already

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have that locked in, Yeah, and then you get jacked. Yeah,

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it ain't gonna hurt. Yeah, it ain't hurt.

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That's coolly what happened. I think anyway, just call on

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the records. I think Bonds should be in the Hall

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of Fame just based on.

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The numbers he had before the steroid era.

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Yeah, you could delete that well then, yeah, like what

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do you do. You're just gonna delete the whole era,

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you know, like from nineteen eighty eight to nineteen ninety eight.

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You know, it's kind of the Lance Armstrong argument, Like

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you would give the Gold Trophy to like number ten

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because the top nine would fail. Yeah, so you're just

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gonna eliminate everyone. I mean, the biggest argument for trophies

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is Reggie Bush. Like, to not give him the Heisman

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and give everything back after not only the nil but

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every other motherfucker was taking money and cheating everywhere is insane.

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The barrier argument's pretty damn good. If Pete Rose right,

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isn't Pete Rose the same thing with gambling.

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Pe Rose is gambling. Yeah, there's like and they would.

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Didn't bring him in or they took away his Hall

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of Fame.

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They yeah, they well, he was banned from baseball number one,

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like couldn't particip paid on any level with Major League

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Baseball and any minor league, you know, a team that

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was affiliated with Major League Baseball.

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Uh, and then he just he.

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Couldn't get enough votes during his eligibility to get into

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the Hall of Fame, and then and then not enough

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veterans would vote for him after his initial scandal. Yeah, yeah,

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because usually it's several years that you have to get

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to a certain point to even continue to be on

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the ballot, and then your eligibility expires the next number

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of years, and so the then the writers can't put

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you in at that point, but the Veterans Committee might

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be able to.

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But he couldn't get enough traction there either.

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So yeah, like talk about something that's never spoken about anymore,

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Like there's no way more gambling within athletes isn't happening

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now than ever.

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Oh there's a really good chance of that. Yeah, there's one.

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Hundred thousand apps.

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Yeah, you know, like back then Vanduels he rose to

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go talk to the mafia, you know, like he was

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doing it hard way.

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Yeah, like he had to go do some shit to

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talk to somebody who knew somebody to do some shit where.

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Now literally, there's just no way it's not happening. Actually, uh,

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the only one I got heard got caught and it

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wasn't publicized that much. I can't even think of his name,

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which is kind of a slap in his face. Sorry buddy,

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but it's Michael Porter Junior, who is in the NBA.

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I think he's on the nuggets still. Both of his brothers,

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like within a year, some crazy shit happen. One got

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caught gambling, was in the NBA himself, and the other

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one I think, like I don't know if it was

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a Dyan hit somebody or killed somebody. There's two crazy

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ass things of both his brothers who were both in

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the NBA, and then within like the same year. But yeah,

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same concept. Like that is a pretty big deal. And

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he wasn't a star by any means, but he played

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and knowing that I know of, even talked about it.

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And it's within like the last three years. Oh jeez,

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you know, yeah, why wouldn't you hear about that. Yeah,

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they why because fucking fan duel and prize picks sponsor

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the fucking ABC in the NBA and the MLB. Like

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so then like why would they want to bring that up?

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ESPN for sure, right draft kings, Like that's ad is

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everywhere and I'm not that anti gambling. I had a

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big discussion with this with shout out my boy Chris

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and agent the streamer, and we were talking about because

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they don't gamble and they've had, you know, friends, and

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you know, they know the addiction of it all, and

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I do two. You know, like my dad was really

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into gambling. He just was like really good at cutting

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it off and never affected the family by any means

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because then you just split it up. And even me

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like I'll still like throw fifty bucks at a UFC

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fight every once in a while, but the issues is

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like overspending obviously doing it every day. And my segue

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to this is I was watching another YouTube like documentary

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which are all like are getting better. There's like multiple people.

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There's channel Channel five, right, I feel like it was

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one of the first ones. But who's the other kind

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of dorky ish white guy but he often goes to

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the hood. He'll do like he is.

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He started off going to the.

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Hood and like just like filming them, like literally committing crimes.

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Maybe maybe you've for sure seen him some us pretty normal, nah,

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kind of shorter and maybe it used to be longer.

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Channel five has the hell of long hair. Yeah, this

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guy's had like kind of clean cut, normal ass looking

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white dude. Whatever. So he started with all this hood stuff,

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but then he'll start to get into like more deeper.

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You know.

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He went to San Francisco and talked to some of

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the fentanyl folks, but he was talking to is it

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Mickey something. There's this like he's like a unicorn. So

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he's half the world, or more than half the world

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says he's just the world's biggest scammer. He's got all

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these face tats. He kind of looks like he should

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be part of like an Emo early two thousands band.

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Half the world says he's just the biggest liaron scammer

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on the planet. And then half the world follows a

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story which is that he's just the best gambler of

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all time and has gotten kicked out of every hotel ever,

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which has happened like Dana White says he's not allowed

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to go to the MGM anymore because he like won

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like twenty mili and they didn't want to pay him

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off or something like that. Oh and same with this

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guy is at least his stories, but then everyone else

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like does research and says his you know, parents are fucking.

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Only personally, I know it's being kicked out of a

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permanently kicked out of a casino was a cocaine thing.

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So yeah, like you gotta be acting crazy, you know. Yeah,

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but he does like documentaries on people like that now

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or like whatever it is, and some of them honestly

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are like again, like we're becoming documentary specialists as we've

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watched hundreds now, some of these YouTube ones are straight

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up better. Yeah, Like they're better than what all these

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other companies like, yeah, ESPN or Netflix or whoever does

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some of those have kind of.

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A recipe, HBO, ESPN and then somewhat further down Netflix, Yeah,

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because the Netflix is such a mixed bag, some of them.

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Are you know, yeah, and I haven't always looked at

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like who actually produced or directed the ones we do,

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but like, yeah, the ESPN ones have like a recipe,

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and that recipe works one because sports are emotional and

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a good tie too, just because they have, you know,

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their format, the last dance obviously being the easiest one

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to point to. That's just fucking good, you know, like

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you could not care about any of it, but it's

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pretty good. We're diving into some YouTube ones faceless, which

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I think is a big component of this whole thing.

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You probably get ads everywhere like everyone else where, build

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a faceless YouTube and make thirty grand a day, you know,

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or really that's everywhere. That's everywhere on the Internet. It's

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like the new side gig and this one's completely faceless.

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And I've seen some of these too, where they'll like

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dive into a popular content creator. Oftentimes they're niched out,

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you know, because like I think we're on air, maybe

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we're all fair when Subbust was talking about them referencing

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each other and shit, because there's nowhere else to like

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get the content because you're talking about random ass people.

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You know, they're doing xQc the streamer or something like.

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You can't really find anything on him because he's just

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an internet guy. Yeah, you know, you gotta dig, and

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so it sounds like obviously this is like that too,

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we're going over Braille skateboards and it's a attachment or

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connection to Scientology and colts And what's the title the

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one I watched? Watched a plethora?

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Did you watch?

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I think you watched this one and the one full

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dumb data rise and fall. Yeah, I am Cairo the

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rise and Fall of Brail skate watching his YouTube channel.

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I also watched.

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How Scientology destroyed a popular skateboarding channel, and then I watched.

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The probably first ten minutes or so of.

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Why the biggest skateboarding channel on YouTube collapsed by du Bois.

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Du Bois being former skaters on the channel, former employees Braill.

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The ones that the main movie references that left because

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they referenced one guy that they tie in. They tie

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in a bunch of stuff and it's mostly like analytics,

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which obviously makes it a little boring, but they try

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to tie in one popular character leaving in the channel tanking.

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Yeah that he is not one of the people that

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they do talk about him.

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Yeah, we need that, right, We need the interview with

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this guy. We need fucking Braille himself in there, and

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then we need this cool guy. Those are the interviews

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we need.

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Okay, here's why you're not going to get him.

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Yeah, well of course scientology.

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Yeah, yeah, of course, because uh no, no the other guy.

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I mean, you're gonna get him, but you're also not

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going to get the other guy.

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And I would say that though, the one, the main

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one that that we both both watched, I would not

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call that a documentary. I would say that's an expose, sure,

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or or a it's across with like an explainer analysis whatever.

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It's not really it's not really documenting anything but you know,

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particular incidents and then what it does to the YouTube

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channel's views.

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Yeah, we're trying to find some correlations.

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The the sort of inciting thing that connects it to

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scientology in that video is that he you know, what's

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his name, Aaron comes out as as pro scientology in

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a video, and then it becomes known that he's at

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a certain level in scientology. It's like going back to

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going Clear. You're basically like paying to level up in

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which is like a video.

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Game, is really weird.

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There's probably something that to that too, right, Like, there's

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definitely something in sales and marketing that when you pay

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a higher price, you like value that thing more. And

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so like if you're yeah, if I had to pay

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a million to be level four, Like I'm stoked to

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be level four, you know.

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And then it comes out that he has spent three

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quarters of a million dollars leveling up with scientology, and

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then he posts a video about fundraising for a skate

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park in his hometown trying to renovate it, and people

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were like, but you know, you just put three quarters

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a million dollars into leveling up in scientology.

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Why couldn't you fix this problem yourself?

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You know, what's a skate park cost? You know, I

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know it, like it was just cement, Like a big

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a big pool will cost you like seventy yeah, you know,

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so like a skate park less than a million, that's

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for sure.

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So kind of an important point is that this guy

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was not a famous skateboarder. No, and nobody that really

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skated with him, you know, there was like a high

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level competitor or anything like that. His his stuff was

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based on like his first videos that actually hit were

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how to videos for skateboarding.

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It was early YouTube adopter early.

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Yea very early even like almost maybe a year earlier

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than me, yeah think.

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Yeah, and giant, like he was the biggest skateboarding channel

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for a long time, it felt like the most interesting thing.

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And yeah, the Expose will call it is uh, they

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don't know obviously, but they kind of reference him being

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part of Scientology even before it, Yes, before he's rich,

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for sure, and before he pops off for sure. So

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it sounded like, you know, by the rough stuff, like

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maybe seven oh eight he got involved with Scientology. Then

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all these videos come out about Scientology more like oh

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nine to ten, twenty.

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Eleven, after twenty ten for sure, because there's the guy

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in the data. One talks about how he's basically was

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dormant for from two thousand and five, oh true to

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twenty ten.

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Yeah, which maybe, yeah, he was holding electroids and searching

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for aliens.

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Apparently, Yeah, just he was auditing himself self auditing.

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Yeah, you wonder what like that time commitment is like

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obviously based on Going Clear and other documentaries and Scientology.

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Like one, once you're in in like you're a slave,

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you know, you're working all day or doing something weird.

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But then even two, like even if you're a peripheral

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character in the church, you know you would think that yeah,

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you got to it's definitely more than an hour on

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a Sunday. Yeah, you know, so then like, yeah, how

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could you make two vlogs a day if you're so

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busy leveling up or whatever? And maybe that was part

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of it. Then he ran out of money and then

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well doubled down. This part of the success of the

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channel was that there was just so many videos. There

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was at least a video a day for a very

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long period of time, which more than ten years, which

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is not something that most people could know. And he

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could skate, I mean he could straight up skate. Yeah.

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He wasn't bad by any means and.

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Was not a high level competitor or anything. So like

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all what he had to offer initially was instruction and

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then it turned into let's make skateboards out of crazy

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fucking things.

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Yeah, which is like perfect YouTube content. He had great

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content brain Glass.

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Which is like his biggest video ever when skateboard made

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of glass that he rode for you know, fractions of

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a second because it exploded and then he did it

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again and that one also exploded.

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Yeah, that's an early adopter too, Like that kind of

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content is still what the Internet is. He'd like that,

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like that's what goes viral right now.

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He should a flat screen TV. He didn't made out

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a chain, you.

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Know, one that wouldn't break. Yeah, just cheap Amazon one.

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All that's genius, all that crazy kind of you know,

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YouTube content mill stuff.

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Yeah, you know, but no one was doing it then.

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I don't think no.

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I think he was kind of the first to do

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that sort of thing.

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I'm like, I'm sure there was some other one, but like, yeah,

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like that was so non traditional YouTube because traditional YouTube

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was like a place to story or shit, like if

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you're MTV. They started uploading stuff highlights of like basketball

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how to's maybe, and then like that's kind of it,

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you know, if we're talking like twenty ten, there was

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nothing going on. And then for him to even like

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vlog in like twenty thirteen, that was early wave too,

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Like vlogging really took off like twenty sixteen twenty seventeen,

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which he obviously continued, and I think they said twenty

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fifteen twenty sixteen was as big as year.

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Twenty sixteen was definitely the biggest.

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Those are crazy views, Like we're talking billions, yeah, yeah,

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like crazy amounts of views. What I wonder is like

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like two thousand and eight, let's say he's twenty three

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or something. Who knows. They don't really dig into that

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too much. Like are you just like a Tom Cruise fan?

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Like how do you find scientology and step through that door?

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Like what's you know, like what's step one?

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That's a really good.

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Question that is not answered at all in anything that

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I've read, is how he got into.

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It in the first place.

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Well, I don't know how any of them. Yeah, yeah,

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that's a good question, Like Tom Cruise is obviously all

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those guys are probably recruited because you know, they have

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the giant hotel looking church in Hollywood and they all

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live there like that kind of there's some kind of

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draw there. You know if l Ron Hubber's probably rich

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as shit, going to fancy restaurants, who's that fancy restaurants?

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Tom Cruise characters, and you know, something happens. But yeah,

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how's like a random ask kid? Did they say where

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he's from? I assume just like the.

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Midwest or something San Francisco.

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Okay, way off Big Skatetown though, but you know, still

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you're just a kid from the city. Yeah, you know,

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like because like and I'm sure there's grass we could

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find over time, and obviously scientologies, you know, sorry to

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all our scientology listeners, but it's a little bit in

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its own category versus other you know, Judaism, muslim you know, Christianity. Yeah,

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all the majors in the world that are made up

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of you know, just those three alone has like five

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billion members across the world. When there's hard times in

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the world or someone's going through hard times, they're going

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to start to search for some faith or some hope

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or something to rely on. And it's you know, even

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right now, in the last five years, you know, Bible

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sales are through the roof in America. Like I understand

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all that, but like what you know, what makes you think, like, oh,

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like times are hard, let me pay three quarter mill

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to not be hard, you know, to like get this

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alien out of me and fix myself, you know, Like yeah,

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like and I know this self help world, like I've

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I've read many of those books, you know, all the

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all the typicals, four lessons and all this bullshit. I've

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read all those and I like some of them for sure,

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But that's a twelve dollars audio book, you know, to

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try to search for someone else's philosophy that may call

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to you or even Tony Robbins. You know, like I

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even understand, like all right, like I've had a lot

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of friends go to like his stuff live and pay

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you know, one to five grand and say like, no,

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this was awesome, like the guy's energy. You know, you

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learn some real applicable lessons in business in life, like

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you search for something, but just to jump up to

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a quarter of million dollars, like you don't hear the

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success of the scientologists. Besides, Tom Cruise is like fake smile.

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You know, it's everybody's fake smile because if you saw

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this guy, he had to fake.

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I mean, even look at his thumbnail.

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It just looks crazy, like way up there. So kind

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of as this the story rolls out, and this this came.

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From the from the one the channel, from the boys,

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the guys who used to to skate for him and

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work for him, except for one of the skaters, and

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that's one of the guys who left, and the and

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the views fell off significantly after that.

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Everybody else was a Scientologist, which makes sense. And they

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said that.

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They were never recruited, nobody ever tried to get them

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to join. They I don't know if they thought that

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they were just not good candidates. Or it just doesn't

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I don't know.

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I mean, oh, the ones doing the video, yeah, yeah, And.

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Nobody ever tried to get them to join. And then

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eventually the the data one talked about it a little bit,

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but not a ton. There was almost two years that

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this guy was gone from the channel. He said he

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was like he said, he was like going to business

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school or something. And what it turned out that he

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was doing was he was in some intensive training program

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for high level management inside Church of Scientology. And then

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00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:13.920
eventually after that, it came out that he was made

463
00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:17.880
the head of Scientology in San Francisco.

464
00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:21.279
Oh shit, I wonder, yeah, are you getting like paid,

465
00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:24.240
are you getting fucking salaried up? Are you getting like

466
00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:27.640
food or something? You know, Like, how do they I

467
00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:27.960
don't know.

468
00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:30.119
They're probably you know, four dollars a day or something,

469
00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:34.200
you know. Yeah, So so that was obviously a big deal.

470
00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:39.400
And then these guys believe that the skater who left

471
00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:43.079
as a scientologist, oh, the popular one, the popular one

472
00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:46.279
was also scientologists and he is involved in the church

473
00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:49.799
in LA And these all seem pretty current stories.

474
00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:51.680
These are over the past few years.

475
00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:55.759
Yeah, and because you were still making videos, right, he

476
00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:58.079
was while like the channel was putting out videos while

477
00:23:58.119 --> 00:23:58.720
he was gone.

478
00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:03.000
He sort of left everything, like just suddenly left everything

479
00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:04.839
in the hands of one.

480
00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:07.200
Of the crew, which isn't like that abnormal, like once

481
00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:10.440
you switch the channel, you know, to Braill the company,

482
00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:12.279
which I actually kind of liked that reference of the

483
00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:16.960
name and how they explain all that. I'm trying to

484
00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:18.519
look up at the channel's latest videos.

485
00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:22.440
There's only one this year, but that's still something. It's

486
00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:24.839
got Like, no, what he just dropped one yesterday?

487
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:28.319
Oh, yesterday, interesting, twenty three hours ago? How to recover

488
00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:31.400
from an injury in skateboarding? Well, timid skateboarding guide was

489
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:32.960
two days ago. No, he's ripping right.

490
00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:33.480
Now, is he?

491
00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:33.839
Yeah?

492
00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:36.039
I only saw one for the for the year.

493
00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:37.400
I'm on Braille Skateboarding.

494
00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:38.960
Yeah, that's what I was on.

495
00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:41.079
And oh yeah, he's got he's got two days ago,

496
00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:42.960
three days ago, six days ago, seven days ago, nine

497
00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:45.240
days ago, ten days ago, twelve days ago. What are

498
00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:46.200
he's dropping dailies?

499
00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:47.039
What a view counts?

500
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:54.559
Low thousands and eight ten And go go back.

501
00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:57.359
To the one in the first one in January and

502
00:24:57.480 --> 00:24:58.279
look at the comments.

503
00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:01.640
I don't know how to that one month ago was

504
00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:07.279
three months ago. Yeah, because he's literally dropping daily still.

505
00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:11.839
Yeah. All of the comments are like, dude, to give

506
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:13.799
it up, dude, it's over, dude, go.

507
00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:14.640
Home, haters.

508
00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:17.359
Yeah, and.

509
00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:24.160
That he's in San Francisco for sure, skateboarding San Francisco's

510
00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:28.559
skate breaks versus San Francisco's steepest hill geez.

511
00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:32.400
So along the way, he.

512
00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:37.720
He literally had like a he built an indoor skate

513
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:43.079
park kind of all uh what's his name from from ridiculousness,

514
00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:50.960
Rob der Dick, similar to that, and uh, eventually he

515
00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:52.839
didn't have the money to keep it going.

516
00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:55.400
Especially if it's in San Francisco. Imagine what the no

517
00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:58.319
was in La Yeah, I mean either way and a cheap.

518
00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:04.279
And uh, he was continuing to give money to Scientology

519
00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:10.240
and that totaled up to over a million dollars.

520
00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:12.599
Yeah, I mean on the level level three was like

521
00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:13.279
twenty sixteen.

522
00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:14.440
It dropped another Yeah.

523
00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:17.400
Trust he was talking to Zaiinu, the fucking alien. Now

524
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:21.720
he's leveled up. Yeah, And so.

525
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:26.400
Eventually the landlord kicked him out, and so they had

526
00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:29.200
to tear everything down. Like one of the guys on

527
00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:34.559
the the crew was coming into film and they're tearing

528
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:37.160
all the rams down and shit, and he's like, fuck,

529
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:37.680
I don't.

530
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:38.000
Know, you know.

531
00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:40.720
So there was a whole series of videos of here

532
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:45.319
on here of these guys individually, like on their own

533
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:46.799
channels saying why.

534
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:49.079
They left and whatever, and it sounds like they weren't

535
00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:49.559
that negative.

536
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:52.119
Huh uh.

537
00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:55.960
They were pretty negative about him personally and because he

538
00:26:56.200 --> 00:27:00.680
chose to uh, because he chose to his money into

539
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:05.000
Scientology versus the business versus them. So that's another another

540
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:08.200
piece of it is that they didn't get paid very much,

541
00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:14.680
and they were the stars of the of the channel

542
00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:18.920
in a lot of ways, but they did not share

543
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:23.160
the wealth he was shuffling it off to to Scientology,

544
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:25.359
and I imagine he was probably paying the people who

545
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:28.839
were working for him who were scientologists relatively well so

546
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:32.559
they could be putting their money into leveling up, and

547
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:36.119
just decided that these skaters were not not either not

548
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:40.039
good candidates for for scientology or not good candidates for

549
00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:41.279
ever leveling up or whatever.

550
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:43.119
I don't know, I've kind of insulted. I've never been

551
00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:43.720
recruited too.

552
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:48.599
Yeah, but yeah, maybe maybe you haven't walked by the

553
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:50.440
one downtown in at the right time of day.

554
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:52.400
I know I've never seen nobody in there.

555
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:53.519
I'd never seen anybody in there.

556
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:55.759
The lights are like always on, and I swear I

557
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:57.759
have seen like a screen in there playing some kind

558
00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:02.079
of pamphlet or something right constant, but I've never seen

559
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:02.720
like a human.

560
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:05.160
I don't think I have either, to be honest, but like,

561
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:05.799
and I wonder if.

562
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:07.400
They have the whole tower. It is an odd building too.

563
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.119
It's obviously very old, like it kind of looks like

564
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:12.519
a mini church, and it's just like shoved in the

565
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:14.200
back of our basketball arena almost.

566
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.440
It's so random building near well part of doco.

567
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:19.759
Yeah, it's so weird.

568
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:22.680
So part of the part of their.

569
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:24.640
Video is talking about the fact that they got paid

570
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:27.839
like maybe twenty bucks an hour for what they did

571
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:34.440
and eventually they just kind of had enough and they

572
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:39.000
don't like they it's not a personality thing. It's not

573
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:40.480
like they hate him because he's.

574
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:40.960
A bad person.

575
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:42.319
You're just bad decision or whatever.

576
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:44.480
It's just the bad decisions. And then I was thinking

577
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:51.480
about this this morning and the decline of the channel.

578
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.640
A lot of it could be just a normal YouTube

579
00:28:56.839 --> 00:28:57.839
channel life cycle.

580
00:28:58.039 --> 00:28:59.759
Yeah, that's what I thought too, And they kind of

581
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:02.319
wint to that about like correlation, and I mean the

582
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:05.319
main character leaving or like the favorite character leaving might

583
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:07.839
probably in my opinion, would play a bigger role. And

584
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.039
then like yeah, the algorithm, bro, like what channel like

585
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:12.680
Pautie Pie ain't getting the views if we went to

586
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:13.559
his channel right now.

587
00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:16.920
You know, like that was popular in twenty sixteen is

588
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:20.160
still Yeah, the steaming now because the landscape is so

589
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:20.880
totally changing.

590
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:23.039
Yeah, there's like people with the big name still you know,

591
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:25.880
like Doughbrick still stays relevant, like in terms of his name,

592
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:28.319
but I don't know what his channel does obviously, Like

593
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:30.720
mister Beast has had a pretty good run. He probably

594
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.920
started like twenty twelve and took off maybe twenty seventeen

595
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:36.079
and still has some run. But even like the new

596
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:38.400
guys you know, and I've you know, been lucky enough

597
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:40.759
to rub elbows with yeah, like the AMP guys and

598
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:43.880
Agent and them, like Agent's been doing it a good while.

599
00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:46.200
But a good while is like seven years. You know,

600
00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:48.599
he did two and his content had to evolve majorly.

601
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:51.480
He used to just do two K basketball content on

602
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:55.279
YouTube and now he's streaming yesterday. He was filling up

603
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:59.680
balloons until he took flight and tied to his back

604
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.480
like Up the fucking movie, you know, so like they're

605
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:06.880
bro He literally had the soundtracked of Up going to

606
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:10.160
the two hundred and fifty pounds man in his backyard.

607
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:13.920
But yeah, you know, your content evolves and it's all

608
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:16.839
live versus YouTube, you know. So Yeah, if you're doing

609
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:20.240
just skateboard shit, yeah, yeah, how long are you gonna last?

610
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:23.000
Unless and he is creative Again, I've never heard of

611
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:24.200
Braille really or watched.

612
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:26.680
I don't either, And the thing is like.

613
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:29.759
Sebus, you said you heard of it, right, Brail. Yeah.

614
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.799
There isn't a whole lot of focus on any of

615
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.720
these about the actual business beyond YouTube. So they they

616
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:39.960
sold I guess they sold decks.

617
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:43.240
Yeah, I went to the website. Everything twenty percent off.

618
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:45.200
I don't know what a skateboard costs, but their shit

619
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:47.079
felt cheap, like I think it was like forty bucks

620
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:47.519
for a deck.

621
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:53.160
That's yeah. And then and their their merch looks kind

622
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:53.519
of cool.

623
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:55.279
No, it all looked fine, but it didn't.

624
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:56.000
I don't know.

625
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:58.400
There was just nothing about how that came about who

626
00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:00.519
did it right? And with the mark gins on that

627
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:01.680
might have.

628
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.880
Been if he's ripping that company in twenty fifteen sixteen,

629
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:06.960
with those type of views, like you could you could

630
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.359
easily ten x your your ad rev. You know, like

631
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:13.720
his money income from that company, even if it was shit,

632
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:16.279
which it looked fine to me, like it looked cool enough. Yeah,

633
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.240
he made a shit ton of money, for sure. A

634
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.799
billion views is in say no, yeah, And I assume

635
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:23.599
like those people are about it, you know, because at

636
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:25.440
that point he was vlogging, which is a lot more

637
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:28.359
connection to your audience then if you're just doing viral shit.

638
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:30.119
You know, your connection to your audience is kind of whatever,

639
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:32.640
if you're just like will it explode guy? Or whatever

640
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:35.279
doesn't blend, doesn't bend, you know, those type of channels.

641
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:38.319
But it sounds like people liked him a lot.

642
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.880
Yeah, not as much as the the as his sort

643
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.440
of main character guy, but or you know, any any

644
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:45.079
of the other people.

645
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:47.319
But they still they still liked him. But it's just

646
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:49.519
not it's just not what it was. And it's because

647
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:51.799
YouTube's not what it was. I think you have to be.

648
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:55.920
I don't even know who you have to be anymore,

649
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:58.319
tell you the truth. But but there's just so many

650
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:03.599
more channels, there's so many more people with uh, celebrity

651
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:06.960
outside of YouTube who came to YouTube, Yeah and really

652
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:08.440
muddied the waters for everyone.

653
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:10.519
Yeah. Well, and it's just yeah, you want new shit.

654
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:12.960
So if you're doing the same style of content and

655
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.319
twenty twenty that you did in twenty fourteen, Braill's probably

656
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:17.880
not gonna have a chance. You know, you got evolve,

657
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:21.599
youa do something different. I mean, I show Speed probably

658
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:23.519
the biggest YouTuber in the world, right like you, I

659
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:25.680
guess you could argue mister beasts whatever. But Speed's like

660
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:30.200
literally like going to the depths of China, live streaming

661
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.039
it and turning it into videos, you know, like in

662
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.319
anywhere he wants because they know he's a celebrity, Like

663
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:36.720
they're putting him on He's flying. He's in a flying

664
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:41.000
car live streaming. You see a clip, insane, bro, And

665
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:44.680
obviously speeds reactions are insane, but like, yeah, he's literally

666
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:49.119
in a flying car in China flying, you know, Like

667
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:51.680
and that guy I don't even know how Speed started.

668
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.359
Was it like a FIFA thing not even I don't know,

669
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:59.640
but obviously he's yeah, just regular shit, you know. And

670
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:01.799
so like, yeah, no one wants to just watch you

671
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:07.000
kickflip a glass skateboard twenty times, yeah, or once, yeah.

672
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.519
Because it pretty much that's all you could do.

673
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:12.279
The thing that really struck me when I was looking

674
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:14.720
at it, though, is that it didn't because they weren't

675
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:15.759
talking about him.

676
00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:20.400
From a personally negative standpoint. Most of the time.

677
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.680
It was really just beefs about about how the business

678
00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:26.480
was run, where the money was spent, and how they

679
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:27.039
were treated.

680
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:33.680
It didn't have to be scientology that caused all of this, Sure,

681
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:35.599
it clearly was.

682
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.119
You know, it could have been a gambling addiction.

683
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:45.359
Gambling, drugs, alcohol, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, prostitutes.

684
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:47.359
I don't know, whatever, whatever your addiction is, whatever your

685
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:52.200
addiction is, that could have could have contributed or could

686
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:56.359
have caused essentially the same thing, except that there probably

687
00:33:56.400 --> 00:34:00.720
would have been a lot more personality damage from that,

688
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.519
I guess, you know, like he he would it would

689
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:07.319
have been more difficult to work with or for other than.

690
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:11.119
Just sure being you know, absent or Yeah.

691
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:12.960
That's kind of the curious part, right, Like if they

692
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:15.760
don't really talk negative on like him as a human,

693
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:18.880
I don't know, the whole scientology thing's weird because like

694
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:21.599
spending money is like a whole psychological game too, you know,

695
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:26.000
and like some humans probably same reason like cold plunge

696
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:29.280
and other things are really popular right now is when

697
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.559
you do something hard, like you feel like it like

698
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:34.280
validates and you did something good, right Like, we're kind

699
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.079
of programmed that way, whether it's a signal yeah, or

700
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.159
just like evolutionary, right like, you do something hard to survive,

701
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.079
and so like modern day we're pretty comfortable. So you

702
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.599
hop an ice plunge you suffered for a minute, You're like, damn,

703
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:47.679
I just worked really hard, you know. And so I

704
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:50.519
wonder if there's like an aspect of that to scientology

705
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:54.559
that keeps some wanting to pay money, you know, like damn,

706
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:56.199
like he I just had to clean this whole room

707
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:58.719
with a toothbrush, or I've only ate one piece of

708
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:01.719
white bread because I'm talking you know, EU, the fucking alien.

709
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:04.760
Let me pay another tenjis in that, you know. An

710
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:08.199
insane concept that seems to get in popular now too,

711
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.480
is like these like I can't even like say the

712
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:15.920
word I feel embarrassed. There's like alpha male camps or

713
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:18.199
something going on. Yeah, you know, and like so you're

714
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:18.920
paying ten.

715
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:21.800
G's to go, you know, to learn how to not

716
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:23.039
have empathy well just to.

717
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:26.280
Do like burpies, you know, to burpies with someone splashing

718
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:28.440
you with cold water or something, you know, and getting

719
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:31.360
you know, yelled at or something like that. And uh,

720
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:33.800
which I could you know do for you for free

721
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:35.800
if you'd like, like you do it on your own,

722
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:39.360
you know, like, And I do think there is something there,

723
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:42.199
Like I do think humans need to struggle, and I

724
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:44.960
think there's you know, power and hard work, and I

725
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:48.639
think there's mental clarity you know in doing hard things

726
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:52.880
and you know, waiting for the outcome. And I wonder

727
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:56.880
if that's like the psychological tie that keeps these scientology

728
00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:00.400
folks cuffed in because I just can't understand.

729
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.639
Did No, I don't. I don't get it either.

730
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:06.599
I think that I mean maybe maybe some fomo you know, yeah, yeah,

731
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:08.360
once you're once you touch it, maybe you.

732
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:09.079
Know, once you're in it.

733
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:12.039
Yeah that and yeah, and just I mean really it

734
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:14.800
might be like the like perfect storm of peer pressure too,

735
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.559
about leveling up and whatever, and just like.

736
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:20.920
Yeah, gamifying it's really smart on Alron's party. It makes

737
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:22.239
you want to do more and better.

738
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.920
But like, what do you have to do in your

739
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:28.599
life to generate that kind of money? Yeah, and that's

740
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:30.159
you know the thing he did here.

741
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:32.199
I think that or what's the other people doing? Like

742
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:34.119
do you just stay at level one if you're broke?

743
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:34.760
Probably?

744
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:36.960
Or do they do they go teach you how to

745
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.039
like go make money maybe so then they can take it. Well,

746
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:43.360
I mean that's what this alpha maleship feels like. Sometimes.

747
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:45.679
He says in one of the videos that like the

748
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.280
courses themselves are cheap, it's the leveling up that's expensive.

749
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:51.519
Yeah, but that's what I mean, like if you no

750
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:53.719
one wants to be level one forever? No, So like

751
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:56.000
is that or is it which is possible too? Is

752
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:57.920
it just only rich people because that's possible?

753
00:36:58.000 --> 00:36:58.159
Yeah?

754
00:36:58.199 --> 00:36:59.239
Well, the the.

755
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:03.360
Going clear I don't know, I haven't seen anything since

756
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:05.800
then about it. But Going Clearer said that there were

757
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:10.199
maybe only fifty thousand people in Scientologists point, but like

758
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:15.079
you know, hundreds of millions and billions of dollars there,

759
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:16.440
but just not that many people.

760
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:18.679
Yeah, And I don't Yeah, yeah, no, I mean fifty

761
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:22.000
thousand times you know, twenty thousand, Yeah, you're at over millions.

762
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.000
I don't. I don't get it. I don't, I don't

763
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:25.840
I don't understand. I'm not going to understand it.

764
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:27.800
Yeah, I didn't hear that number. That makes sense because

765
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:29.320
I was always wondering how many folks are in there.

766
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:32.719
I don't I don't know what the current number is, sure,

767
00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:35.039
but ten years ago the number.

768
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.239
Was Yeah, man, I doubt it fucking quadrupled. I mean,

769
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:38.599
I did that really grew?

770
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:41.159
And you know, I just just in terms of data,

771
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:45.360
I was thinking, Okay, what what did skateboard sales do

772
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:49.519
from you know, twenty ten to twenty twenty or whatever. Yeah,

773
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:52.400
And the facts of the matter is they kind of

774
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:56.519
jumped after twenty sixteen, but his views went down. So

775
00:37:56.639 --> 00:38:00.119
it's really something about his channel or his audience and

776
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.599
not about the popularity of skateboarding.

777
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:04.880
I was trying to look at because that seems like

778
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.159
a lowland skateboarding. Again, I don't follow it that close. Yeah,

779
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:11.199
but it seems like twenty that's kind of like when

780
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:13.679
the X Games weren't as cool, and then they weren't

781
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:17.039
in the Olympics yet, right, and then like now it's

782
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:20.400
kind of getting a mini resurgence again. I just looked

783
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:23.159
up I was wondering how journalistic we need to be here.

784
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:26.119
I looked up the leader of scientology and Sacramento, and

785
00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:28.320
I wonder if we need to have David Miscavitch on

786
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:32.039
the podcast. There's just no way they would come, but

787
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:33.400
that would be an insane interview.

788
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:35.480
He's the leader of the whole thing. Oh is he?

789
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:37.639
Oh? Why'd that pop up? I said, who's the leader

790
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:38.360
in Sacramento?

791
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:40.599
Oh, apparently he's the later everywhere? I don't know.

792
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:42.559
Yeah, let's see if I can find because there's got

793
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:43.599
to be one, right like if.

794
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:45.480
Yeah, if there's one, it's a resist right, but you

795
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:46.760
might not be able to figuret who it is.

796
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:51.400
Yeah, that's true, because that the Church of Scientology Sacramento.

797
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:52.159
All are welcome.

798
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:56.000
Yeah, these websites are crazy and open your wallet.

799
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.719
Oh do they have that whole building? Oh they have

800
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:03.159
a giant building. I thought they just had like a storefront.

801
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:04.719
But I think they have the whole building.

802
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.199
They own the whole building because there's other businesses in there.

803
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:10.719
I don'tly know. They're putting it on their website like

804
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:10.960
they do.

805
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:13.119
Well, there's a gym in the basement, or at least

806
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:16.039
there was. Oh really, maybe there isn't any more.

807
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:18.280
I don't know. They're showing interior pictures like they own

808
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:23.039
this bitch. Maybe the guy nineteen seventy three bom when

809
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.440
was when was scientology even started?

810
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:27.360
I wonder if one of the we're one of the

811
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:28.519
first up seventies.

812
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:30.800
Yeah, this was made in this has been been since

813
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:35.880
seventy three. Oh shit, that's insane. Alron Hubbard blah blah blah.

814
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:41.079
Real results. Dianetics helped me take off emotional charge attachment

815
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:42.360
to losses from my past.

816
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.880
Yeah, that's that basically, that's the part of the message

817
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:47.079
that we got from Going Clear.

818
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:50.119
Yeah, I'm trying to find out who this guy is.

819
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:53.320
How amazing would it be to get the scientology leader here?

820
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:03.079
Oh shit? Interesting?

821
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:06.239
I mean it's possible. Would want to know, But that's Alegen.

822
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:09.599
Yeah, allegedly. That's like, I mean, where's it pulling those

823
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:10.159
numbers from?

824
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:14.480
It's the question about us? Yeah, who knows? Nineteen seventy

825
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:17.159
three blows my brain. The Ramona building, it's cold.

826
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:22.320
Yeah, there's other stuff in the remote building. I'm trying

827
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:24.320
to figure out. I remember what that is though.

828
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:29.639
Free tour nine Free tours are from nine am to

829
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:34.239
ten pm. These dudes are hustling every day and then

830
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.280
there's refreshments. Take a tour and see our multimedia displays.

831
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:45.519
Holy shit, Holy shit, I'm trying to zoom in on.

832
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:56.239
Okay, so maybe that number was fifty thousand. Yeah, the

833
00:40:56.400 --> 00:41:02.199
US worldwide though, they're making that up. It's like, I mean,

834
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:03.800
it's probably easier to recruit worldwide.

835
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:04.800
You know you go to.

836
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:12.199
Yeah, yeah, second wound of Leader of Scientology. Just give

837
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:12.960
me an answer here.

838
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:18.480
So that's the building they they I have never noticed

839
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:21.320
that they have the big like cross symbol up there.

840
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:32.519
Yeah. No, yeah, I done seed it the ten ten room.

841
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:40.960
That's just a bar. Okay, bear with me, everybody for

842
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:41.840
just a second.

843
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:48.199
Here, Chairman of the Border Religious Technology Center. They just

844
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:49.599
make us sound so crazy.

845
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:52.760
I'm trying to get how do I get to street

846
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:53.639
from here? Folks?

847
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:58.199
Oh, we're on Reddit. That's where it's gonna get weird.

848
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:00.679
It's just to get weird. There.

849
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:02.360
Scientology Sacramento read it.

850
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:04.559
Oh my goodness.

851
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:09.880
The Sacramento area was once a sort of scientology boomtown.

852
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:14.960
This one says a mission was started about twelve miles

853
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.159
to the west and Davis in nineteen sixty seven. We're

854
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:25.800
Scientology pioneers. And then yeah, in Sacramento in nineteen seventy four,

855
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:30.079
with around one hundred staff. I don't know who this

856
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:34.360
person is. This is a that seventies clear, that's his name.

857
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.199
Oh maybe he's a scientologist.

858
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:39.480
From the seventies. Oh shit, he's clear.

859
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:43.519
I've been trying to get clear too. I mean that

860
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.480
concept sounds great, right, like it ties into like enlightenedment,

861
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:48.679
you know, like there's something there.

862
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:54.199
Yeah, or even yeah, lesson is so much cheaper. Yeah,

863
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:57.239
you give away everything, but you give it to charity.

864
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:04.440
So yeah, yeah, true, you.

865
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:07.000
Definitely start with nothing. I wish Oh can I get

866
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.559
to street view? Oh man, because I know that there

867
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:10.800
are other businesses right here.

868
00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:12.880
Yeah, I know on the other side there's some stuff

869
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:17.039
close for sure. Bar is there ten ten? Yeah, I've

870
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.480
always heard of ten ten. I've never been. Yeah that

871
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.360
on the sign told you website, they show like interior

872
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:24.280
pictures I've never seen in that building. It looks crazy.

873
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:25.639
Yeah, it's a.

874
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:33.039
It's a classic historic downtown Sacramento building. It's probably from

875
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:37.199
the twenties or thirties. Well hard to tell.

876
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:43.599
But yeah, we're diving deep into research here, and so

877
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:44.480
we're being quiet.

878
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:46.320
Yeah, I'm trying to find this leader.

879
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:48.719
Yeah. I don't know if it's going to say I

880
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:50.159
feel like it's probably not gonna say.

881
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:52.480
I know, I wonder if you dove in more on

882
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:57.119
Aaron's name. If it was, it probably is bro straight

883
00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:01.039
recruiting on Reddit, on the hustle. I don't know, man,

884
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:02.400
I don't know, man.

885
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:05.199
Anyway, I was there was a point I was going

886
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:09.960
to make somewhere along the line, and that's that a

887
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:13.679
certain era of YouTube, when people are trying to get

888
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.159
channels off the ground, they you know, they don't make

889
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:23.079
much money, they don't take much money. They get people

890
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:27.039
to cooperate with them and stuff and be in their

891
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.800
videos and not you know, not pay them much or

892
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:33.719
pay them anything at all. And then when some of

893
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:39.000
them become very very popular, their attitude toward paying you know,

894
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:43.719
people who were involved in their videos doesn't improve. Like

895
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:46.719
they don't pay them more, they don't share the wealth.

896
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:49.440
And I think partly because it's.

897
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:51.679
Like, you know that it can all just go away.

898
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:54.400
Yeah, yeah, I think a lot of it's just like

899
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:57.360
a perspective on business, like are you going to turn

900
00:44:57.400 --> 00:44:59.480
it into a business and scale it up and figure

901
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:03.719
it out or is it just yeah, you know, scarcity

902
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.440
mindset where oh it could disappear any minute, I just

903
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:09.159
got a fucking squeeze on this thing, which is which

904
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:11.400
is everything everywhere? You know, I think that happens in business.

905
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:15.239
I think it happens in friendships, it happens relationships. I

906
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:17.599
think it happens everywhere where. People have a weird, weird

907
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:19.920
perspective on things. I mean, the truth is too like

908
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:24.039
to make a lot of money, you know, like this

909
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:27.679
two is like a top point one percent YouTuber. Yeah,

910
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:31.800
Like then the numbers he's pulled are still historical, Like yeah, now,

911
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:36.079
sure tons of people have a million, but in twenty sixteen,

912
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:38.960
like I still think at twenty sixteen, PewDiePie was the

913
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:42.800
biggest with like seven million subs, maybe a little bit more,

914
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.719
maybe had ten million subs, But like the numbers were

915
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:48.800
so different. You know where who's the biggest now probably

916
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:50.800
mister Beast with like didn't you have like one hundred

917
00:45:50.840 --> 00:46:01.199
mil or something stupid like yeah, yeah, just some other Yeah,

918
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:05.559
but yeah, isn't in like the hundreds of millions? You know,

919
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:09.519
I think? Yeah, I think Kysna was even trying to

920
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:17.159
hit like twenty or fifty mil. Yeah, I know. Yeah.

921
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:19.280
See the interior looks crazy. It looks like they own

922
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:22.320
the whole shit. Obviously they can picture however they want,

923
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:27.039
but I think that's them. Yeah, yeah, Dianetics on the window.

924
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:31.519
I just for mister beast bro literally ten years ago.

925
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:35.440
I swear, watch Google what was the biggest YouTube channel

926
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:37.000
in twenty sixteen and see if it shows up how

927
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:37.480
many subs?

928
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:38.280
I almost swear it.

929
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:41.119
Was Peutie Pie with like because that's even before like

930
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:47.119
the logan Paul's really took over. I swear it as

931
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:51.400
like ten to eleven mil. Just the amount of people

932
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:52.880
watching YouTube now is insane.

933
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:57.239
YouTube pisto largely replaced the TV.

934
00:46:57.440 --> 00:46:59.199
I mean yeah for a lot of people.

935
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.039
I mean, YouTube is the biggest streamer.

936
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:08.960
In twenty sixteen, Who was it, Beautie Pye? That's crazy,

937
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:11.719
but even still even that growth to three hundred and

938
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:16.960
something mill you know, no, yeah, I think, I mean

939
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:20.039
especially for the next gen. You know, you're if you're

940
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:24.199
shit thirty and under, you probably chose a platform, most

941
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:27.679
likely YouTube, but Twitch or whatever, and that's what you watch.

942
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:30.079
I mean even me, Yeah, I'll watch some Netflix or something.

943
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:32.320
I'm going to sleep, but you know, I'm pretty tapped

944
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:34.400
into like the Twitch world, and it's just kind of

945
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:36.480
what I came up on and kind of in that era.

946
00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:38.800
That's why I liked it. In that era, ain't nobody

947
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:42.199
on Twitch, Like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, no one was

948
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:46.400
watching the max viewers were like five k. Yeah, like

949
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:49.039
the biggest the biggest biggest viewership was like five k

950
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:51.599
four and I hit it kind of changed the game.

951
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:52.440
Okay.

952
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:55.599
Good to know that the sacrament of Church of Scientology

953
00:47:55.639 --> 00:48:01.360
accepts contactless payments, So I'd like to I'd like.

954
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:02.239
To level up today.

955
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:03.280
The help's pretty good.

956
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:10.280
Worst star on the OLB, incredible, able to do a

957
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:13.400
personality and IQ test and see where I needed to

958
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:19.199
improve efficiency. Okay, Lauren, Yeah, I'm sorry, lady.

959
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:21.679
I wonder if people are living up there.

960
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:24.159
That's a good question.

961
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:27.199
Again, Like in the Leo whatever documentary, I'm pretty sure

962
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:29.119
she talked a lot more about people like living in

963
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.840
the one in l A right then that it looks

964
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:36.239
like a dorm, Yeah, I think it.

965
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:37.960
Well, I think it used to be a hotel at

966
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:38.280
some point.

967
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:39.400
Yeah, it definitely looks like one.

968
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:43.039
I'm just trying to remember what what businesses are on

969
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:48.039
that other side, because that's the that's the five the

970
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:50.480
fifth Street tunnel.

971
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:52.519
No, I think it's a I think it's a Ali,

972
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:54.239
I said, Ali.

973
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:59.119
On this side it's I think it's because because oh no,

974
00:48:59.199 --> 00:48:59.800
actually I'm.

975
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:02.239
Not No, I think it's a further out. You're right,

976
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:04.679
because this is that Yeah, because there's coffee shops and

977
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:06.199
and all that on the ramp.

978
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:09.000
This is the Golden One. Yeah, bank building.

979
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:12.280
Yeah, that's where like Trifecta roots coffee or something.

980
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:13.840
A bunch of folks are in there.

981
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:15.800
This might be straight scientology.

982
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:16.519
Maybe, so the.

983
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:29.760
Yeah, uh yeah, the book was in the picture that

984
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:34.199
went past the little el Ron Hubbard. Key Chain's totally in.

985
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:37.679
Aside, absolutely in aside. But this this corner right here,

986
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:39.880
like right across from them, used to be a thing

987
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:44.159
called Egghead Software And I just fucking loved that place.

988
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:47.320
Back in the like eighties and early nineties.

989
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:49.199
Got best buy type dealer or a little radio shack.

990
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:51.639
It was it was just like a software store. It

991
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:54.519
was all software. There was no interesting I mean other

992
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:56.519
than like scanners and stuff. There was no hardware, and

993
00:49:56.599 --> 00:49:58.199
it was just just like that's.

994
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:00.719
Where you went to get your my soft word or

995
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:02.960
whatever if you were at the point that you couldn't

996
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:04.599
buy it through the university anymore.

997
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.599
Yea, and games about absolutely business model.

998
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:11.559
Yeah yeah, everything could just be downloaded now the physical

999
00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:13.000
media is not that important.

1000
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:14.320
Yeah, browse it.

1001
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:17.360
Well that's about all like that. For this one.

1002
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:20.480
We may explore new colts. There's gotta be more. That

1003
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:23.239
fitness one is good, that fat shaming one, there's got

1004
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:25.119
to be more like that. We can explore down the road.

1005
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:27.639
Were you here for that one somebous Yeah, it was

1006
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.800
a while ago. It was good though, Yeah, some lady,

1007
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:34.039
but she was like Christian. She like made a don't

1008
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:37.199
you remember we did the Fat Lady, yeah shaming because

1009
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:38.719
I'm pretty sure it was a Christian church.

1010
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:41.559
Yeah. And then she's the one that died right yeah, yeah.

1011
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:44.920
Sold the trillion dollars of books and then like yeah,

1012
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:48.239
basically like turned Christianity doing like a fat shaming diet

1013
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:49.000
church or something.

1014
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.719
And then there was a I don't think we watched

1015
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:53.920
together the follow up for that. I did watch the

1016
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:56.440
there's like a one or two episode follow up after

1017
00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:58.079
she died, and like what was happening to the.

1018
00:50:58.280 --> 00:51:00.159
Yeah, because I was like modern day too, I was

1019
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:01.840
probably in this era that's probably in like the twenty

1020
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:03.639
twelves or something like it wasn't.

1021
00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:04.440
That old, No, it was not.

1022
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:07.320
Well, No, and she she died kind of recently. Yeah,

1023
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:10.119
I think so, like in the last like three four years. Yeah, yeah,

1024
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:11.400
that was an interesting one.

1025
00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:14.320
Yeah, that was That was so weird. It's so weird.

1026
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:17.360
I we live in a time where people can just

1027
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:20.719
say things that don't make any sense and they don't

1028
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:24.000
bother with like the logic of it because they don't care.

1029
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:26.079
And and she was one of those people.

1030
00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:27.920
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if that's a new thing though.

1031
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:29.239
I don't think it's a new thing, but it just

1032
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:30.760
seems like there's a whole lot of it right now.

1033
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:34.719
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have more more veins to

1034
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:36.679
grab attention as all, because now you can use the

1035
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:40.079
internet versus just like knocking on doors. Yeah, we'll see,

1036
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:42.199
but maybe we'll hunt down this cold thing a little

1037
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:44.280
bit more Ladies and gentlemen. New episodes every one's day.

1038
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:45.360
It's all them, Mike, where you want to find me?

1039
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:49.679
I am at the j McDonald all the social media.

1040
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:51.400
This show is fifty percent facts. Percent of the word

1041
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:53.440
fifty is. It's number is fifty percent facts. It's a

1042
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:57.639
speaker Prime Podcast Association at Thehire Media on the obscure celeritymework.

1043
00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:14.119
We'll talk TODA