Sept. 8, 2023

Intensity vs arousal: Are you using either one of these words correctly?

Intensity vs arousal: Are you using either one of these words correctly?

“Intensity” has a specific meaning as related to lifting – a much different meaning than in the rest of the world – yet lifters misuse it all the time. The same is true of “arousal.” That one might spark a bit of a giggle, but when it comes to...

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“Intensity” has a specific meaning as related to lifting – a much different meaning than in the rest of the world – yet lifters misuse it all the time. The same is true of “arousal.” That one might spark a bit of a giggle, but when it comes to lifting, it’s deadly serious. Are you using these words correctly? Avi Lieu (@avi.lieu ) joined us for this one.

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Okay, I got one. Yeah, when people talk about intensity in lifting,

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what do they actually mean? Because
I think that you're saying it that's

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just anybody, because I don't think
that they're I don't think everyone's talking about

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the same thing. Intensity in a
exercise science term is like proximity to failure.

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Yeah, how much weight? Yeah
RPE. Yeah, RP is a

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way to scale intensity percentage, a
way to scale intensity. Yeah. I

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don't know what people are thinking,
but because everyone wants to be a coach

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now and they don't necessarily know the
basics. But yeah, intensity or like

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how difficult something is or how heavy
something is. But I think that what

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it's seen as is is the attitude
while they're lifting. No way. Maybe

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I think that people do use it
in that context. I mean, you

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use it in that context when you're
talking about like other sports, right if

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you're talking about like your football team's
defense, like, hey, we gotta

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come out with some intensity. But
even that, if you want to like

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break it down, it's like,
yeah, how hard you're going to go?

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Right? Like how loud the fucking
music is or whatever? Yeah,

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yeah, but that's only to make
you go hard right, right, Like

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you don't go to in a building
and say, like, man, that

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intensity was really high. That means
the energy was high, which means like

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things were turned up. So like
it is kind of the same. But

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the issue is a lot of people
fake intensity. It's like, right,

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so just like hit pn ammonia doesn't
automatically make you intense. But if you

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are intense and you hit ammonia,
right, it's about the work that's being

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put in, not like how loud
you're screaming, not the environment of the

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work, right, right, but
the vibes an intense environment, the energy

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is high if it's real, yeah, yeah, but it doesn't that may

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not dictate how what weights are on
the bar. No, no, no,

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I'm speaking to other sports. Yeah, yeah, because in other sports

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you can't like lie about it,
but in powerlifting you can. That's the

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difference context, Yes, yeah,
because you can crank music and think your

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intensity's high. That's exactly again,
if we leave a concert or we left

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a gym, like, damn,
that was intense if you felt it,

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Yeah, it has to be inside
the intensity of these kids lifts from RP

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six to nine. Same, Yeah, that's issue. Yeah, yeah,

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I don't know when that's gonna like
chill out. There's a big thing kind

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of towards the end of my competing
and coaching about like kind of saving some

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of that and training a little bit
more month like, but it seems like

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now the trend is that like do
anything you can to get it done.

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But I always, even based on
RPE, we talked about like aroused prs.

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I know that sounds weird, but
like arousal levels or like intensity levels

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on the non exercise intensity matter,
right, Like what can you come in

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and not choose your favorite song,
not hit ammonia, and not get slapped

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on the back deadlift today at an
RP eight versus cranking up the music,

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thinking about your dead dog, thinking
about the boyfriend that broke up with you

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and cheated on you, then pulling, Yeah that's been sad for a bit.

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Uh. Those aren't the same because
of arousal levels. Yeah, but

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like you said, majority of people
are just training cranked up all the time,

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favorite song. They can't they can't
pull seventy percent without their favorite song.

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They can't do it without ammonia,
they can't do it with three cameras

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and their homies watching that. It's
not a true RP seven and to save

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some of that for the platform.
I will say, like it's it's something

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that I've thought about, and like
during competition where I almost So you're talking

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about like the whole arousal thing.
It sounds funny, but like it sounds

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funny because you're gross taking you said
it, Yeah, because it's a normal

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word. Taking a pr like in
training, like attempting that in training with

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a certain mindset versus hyping yourself up. Low arousal in a meat yeah sometimes

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throws me off. Sure, sure, because then I put almost more stress

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and more pressure on myself. Sure, and then I get two hype where

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I am out of sync with routine. Yeah, and then throws out the

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routine, throws out the cadence and
now like I accidentally did an extra slack

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pole when I usually don't, and
now like the whole cadence is off and

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it's like I was just overthinking the
whole thing or yeah, or same thing.

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Yeah. Two high arousal or two
low arousal can definitely be an issue,

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and you need to That's why,
because I don't think you can lift

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at that high level of arousal or
fake intensity for long term to have success.

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That you're better off with repeatability and
being more moderate in training and the

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platform. Yeah, but that's not
that popular right now. It's popular to

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scream meek mill, scream after every
fucking baby, pr flex and hit your

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chest, toss your belt. Yeah, but you can't do that for ten

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years. Do you know how many
RPE sevens you're about to hit in the

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next decade? Yeah? Yeah.
You just can't do that and be real

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with it. That's uh. And
for some reason, I feel like that's

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not as commonly spoke about. But
that was something I talked about a lot,

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and I would joke about it,
even like playing some like boring ass

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music. You guys have seen me
even when I was dead lifting heavy last

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year, like I'm not fucking hit
pneumoni yet I listened to piano music and

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it goes like, no way,
you're reality, Yeah, because will you

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do it long enough that music is
actually not helping. Yeah. And I'm

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not saying don't listen to your favorite
music. And I'm not saying don't be

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excited and have fun. But if
that level of intensity is what's needed again,

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non physiological exercise intensity, screaming style
intensity, I don't know how to

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define them. But I also feel
like it if you have to get up

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for a lift, yeah, then
why why are you lift? They're excited,

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You're gross. I was confused.
I'm like, what do you mean

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you are confused? You have to
stand up for a lift, Ye'll get

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up as riled up. Yeah,
Like if some in a meat if somebody

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like they miss a lift and they
come back for their next attempt and they're

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fucking screaming and they're they're smacking themselves
with chalk and they're you know, it's

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it's a whole like thing. You
know they're gonna miss yeah again. Yeah,

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I think there's a time and place
for sure to get a little angry

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and whatever. But like, you
have to know what's right for you too.

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Yeah. It's not every person,
it's not every lift. It's not

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the same level of intensity every time. Yeah, But what we're talking about

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is focus. Maybe mostly I think
for me, a lot of it is

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to like quiet the doubt. Oh
yeah, So I put on something I'm

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a little nervous about, and then
I'm turning up the music and I'm thinking

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some angry thoughts and I'm thinking I'm
trying to get a little bit fired of

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and like get that fight or flight
kind of going. You know, whether

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it's true or not. You hear
like moms and fight flights, fucking flipping

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cars and ship there's Yeah, there's
definitely something with adrenaline kicking through your body,

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and so I'm trying to turn that
up. But you can't do that

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for real every day. Don't work
that way because the people who actually do

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that, like they have that like
circumstance that caused them to pull the car

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off their child or whatever. They're
trashed for who knows how long because they

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have spent everything they had. Yeah, it's actual adrenal glands, like kicking

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out adrenaline. So that's what to
your point, you can't do like that

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at RP seven because you train RP
seven every day. When you do that

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all the time when you actually need
it for your RPT eight nine, you

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can't for sure. So yeah,
I do think it's it's something you should

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practice because you need to do it
here and there and know how to get

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aroused. But you can't do it
all the time. You can't do with

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RP sevens and it should the level
of like, uh, I don't know

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what we want to call it again, like mental intensity versus like lifting intensity

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should kind of work together. So
if your coach gives you like an RPE

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ten or nine and a half because
you have a meet next week, yeah,

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maybe then you do turn up the
music and hit the ammonia and learn

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what works best for you. But
that's once every six months. Yeah,

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yeah, you know it can't be
that common. I do think there's a

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confusion with all that. Even volume. Yeah, you know, because like

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volumes like all relative, but like
people are like, oh I got a

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two by six l volume day,
like, well yeah, but one who

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cares? And then two like compared
to what Yeah, yeah, one by

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six more volume than you know,
one by three, But that doesn't mean

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it's volume necessarily. All right,
I think we're gonna agreement. Yeah,

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it's not that serious. You're not that

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