International competition: When is it legit? When are you ready? When is it worth it?

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You just can't win them all.
You know, Lionel Messi is bringing Argentina

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back to the World Cup. Congratulations
all around, So you can win everything.

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But then the US just got that
ass whooped in Feba World Cup Basketball.

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Yeah, and then I just dropped
that in ass can't can't win it?

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You and Lebron James and our good
friend Jacob Brass's South Sudan team qualified

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for the Olympics. Yeah, which
is insane. Sucedan has barely been a

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country, hmm impressive Yeah, but
yeah, FIBA, I don't know how

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they did in Feba. I think
they did mediocrely, but they won a

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game like FIBA, but like basketball. Yeah, literally, one is football

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association, one's basketball association. What's
fish do you know? That's a good

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question. I don't know the answer
to that. Probably something International Basketball Association.

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They're supposedly insane. There's a movie
I only watched half of it,

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got a little too nerdy, but
about how corrupt FIFA is as an organization.

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Oh all, everything is crapt shit
shit, shit, fuck South Park

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or something. Turette's episode shit back
Federation International Basketball something that sounds like a

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mumbo jumbo words made up. It's
not They made a sound, and then

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they tried to fit words into association
federation. Looking at their website, it

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doesn't even say it says FIBA,
the International Basketball Federation. It doesn't actually

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say what the words mean, what
the f means? I mean international basketball?

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What the f they? But yeah, so I think it's Germany and

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I don't know who playing in that, but the World Cups here, that's

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the big news. Where here?
Where's here? Right here? And third

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Street? In third Street? What? Yep? No, it's in Santa

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Clara, Seattle, La Texas.
Are you gonna go? I'm gonna try.

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That sounds fun. MESSI technically said
he's retired and not going to do

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it, but then he's playing the
qualls and you never know what he's gonna

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do, and he's playing so well, so he might do it again.

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And if he plays again, I'm
gonna definitely try to get to a messy

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game. I mean, that's literally
the greatest. How much are you willing

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to pay? Probably good amount,
probably good amount. It's like once in

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a lifetime, yeah, you know, yeah, Like I don't think I

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ever saw Jordan's I never saw Tom
Brady if you're about it. I've seen

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Lebron's cool, seen Lebron a bunch
even for me though, Like I'm not

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into it. And really even if
you know he's he's literally gonna go down

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as the best player ever. Yeah, you don't care. No, not

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willing to spend like hundreds of dollars
because I'm not going to pretend to be

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like a fan of soccer. Sorry
football, and like you should be sorry

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whatever, But like the in the
World Cup, like you feel like I'm

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not allowed to No, you're allowed
to fuck them, fuck the gatekeepers.

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I think soccer fans don't care.
And I also think like the World Cup

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and international soccer at least what I've
heard and what I've seen on TV is

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the craziest fans and craziest environment and
all sports. You know, I want

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to do a Super Bowl in my
lifetime. It gets more international. Yeah,

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when when the last World Cup there
was like seventy thousand Argentinians flew there.

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Yeah that's crazy, and it's like
a Broque country a way they spend

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all of the money. Yeah,
they emptied the treasury so they could go.

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Yeah, day funds like a lottery
where you know you could get a

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ticket and the government will paid for
it. That's pretty crazy because like how

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many people care but I don't.
I don't know. It's not it's not

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like anything personally. I'm sorry,
No, it feels personal. No,

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I just like you don't want to
just like I'm not gonna have a bruski

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and wave a flag for an hour. I'm not going to pretend to be

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like interested or involved or like participate
when I don't really know or understand or

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like even watch it on TV.
Okay, you have a thousand dollars.

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You can't use it on anything else. You can't use it on anything else.

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It has to be a live event, an experience. What are you

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doing? T Swift? No,
Beyonce maybe, really, she's a great

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performer. I've heard the when I
was flying to Vegas this last time there

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was I think Beyonce was in Vegas. Maybe Drake. She did Coachella.

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They did like a whole documentary on
Netflix, and like, oh so maybe

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beyon you should watch it. Just
leave it on your TV. I do

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like I do like live music.
Yeah music, they have a whole she's

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a whole marching band. Yeah,
you'd love it. Ye. I do

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like shit like that. No whole
marching. But I'm not a huge Beyonce

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fan in particular. Yeah, I
guess. But it also like shows the

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bat behind the scenes of like when
she was pregnant and then it was after

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that, so she had to like
on a crazy diet, training and like

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dance and like like hours a day. That's underrated fitness, absolutely reforming for

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an hour and a half, screaming, dancing, even if you're like not

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like choreograph but just jumping around and
singing. Yeah, it's hard. If

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I walked for long enough, I
can't get out of breath when I'm talking.

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Yeah, now beyond yeah, now
beyond pitch Yeah, remembering all the

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songs of the row if they're really
singing. Yeah. I think a lot

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of artists it went to a weird
phase for a while, but I think

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because they got called out. I
don't think a lot of people lipsync too.

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I think that the super Bowl is
mostly lip sync. I didn't watch

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Rihanna's performance. Oh no, I
think Rihanna was singing. Really. I

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think so she's pregnant again. It's
nice to believe. I don't think it's

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true, but anyway, but you
can tell. I could watch it again

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and tell you one I don't remember. It is more the issue, but

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you can tell one hundred. I
can tell yeah, because there's fluctuations voice.

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Yeah, no, you can tell
one percent, or if it just

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matches the radio recording or the studio
recording or used to hear it. Yeah

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right, that's the way you tell. Yeah, because they will change it

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up. Yeah, yeah, they'll
hit harmonization, or you could hear a

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note off, or they'll they'll go
on a different Yeah, their ad libs

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will be a little different. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Rihanna

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could sing though, Yeah, yeah, Rihanna could sing. I agree,

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that's true. Yeah, yeah,
I just I couldn't tell you one where

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or the other. It seemed like
it was a real possibility that because so

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many of the Super Bowl performances have
been lip sync. Yeah, I haven't

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seen her as in particular, or
I don't remember it in particular, but

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I know, like Brunos wasn't Bruno's
insane live Bart was on a kick when

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we were driving around bro and we
just watched his live concert, or listen

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to his live concert. He's so
good. He's so good. I think

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a lot of artists now the cream
has separated, because there was there's a

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who was the famous one. I
think it was Jessica Simpson's sister. She

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was like the most famous flip up
where like her voice and her lips were

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like different on like an SNL.
And I remember that being kind of the

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epitome of like, oh my god, no one's a performer anymore. And

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that was maybe like two thousand and
nine, and everyone's like everyone's fake,

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no one has talent, blah blah
blah. And then I think a lot

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of people that were real artists went
against that to kind of prove like,

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no, we're not like that.
Well there's also the Milli Vanilli thing where

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it wasn't even ever them singing that
it was all lip sync. That's wildly

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its not in studio too, you
know the voices in studio where other people

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and the performers were different people,
different people. I mean, I get

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it right. And that's why like
even now we use the term like yeah,

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performer or artist rather than like singer
or songwriter or band. You don't

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even use those terms anymore, or
because at has like a whole cult yeah,

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yeah, fifties. So I think
about it like causing an earthquake there

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or something. Did you guys hear
about that? No, Like I think

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she was in Mexico City when Dan
was, though he said there's Americans everywhere.

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Yeah, probably pretty crazy. I
don't really get the T Swift thing.

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I don't. I don't either.
I like her old stuff. I

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don't wasn't to any of the new
ones even still, Like, I understand

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that she's like a good songwriter,
but why is it so bag? Yeah?

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Why is she? Like like you
watch one live Michael Jackson performance,

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and whether you like it or not, you're like, all right, this

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dude's different, you know, Like
I get it. Uh, But like

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T Swift, I'm like, there's
a lot of music that kind of sounds

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like that. I don't know either, honestly, because it is like a

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cult following kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, I don't understand. But

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I also like, I would also
wouldn't mind watching Ariana Grande a live ck

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Kendrick Kendrick will be good, although
Kendrick recently had one. Yeah, I

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just I don't. I mean,
they all go on tour. I don't

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like music enough honestly to like go
to I've never been to a clans.

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I know, we gotta go.
I love live music music. Yeah,

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I don't know. We gotta get
you to a big concert. I like

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orchestras and symphonies. Yeah, yeah, I've done that a couple of times.

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Yeah, I haven't cool. I
haven't since college. And I was

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like an experience that I took for
half a credit and I enjoyed it and

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I was like, I'm old.
I took a music appreciation class like that

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and it required you to go to
a certain number and like review live performance.

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What I talk about your experience?
Yeah, I did. I did

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a lot, and I was It
was in La too, so I had

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a lot of was a Santa a
lot of opportunity. La is good.

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It's a good place. Yeah.
Yeah, like you know string quartets,

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Yeah, I just like watching everything
happen. Yeah, you could just like

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movement with sound. Yeah. We
went, uh I think it's January twenty

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twenty, like really like right before
the pandemic. Went to Juilliard and saw

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a jazz performance. There was like
vocal jazz performance. It was fun,

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great obviously Juilliard, right yeah,
yeah, yeah, I bet all those

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cultures go crazy. I had a
friend that went to Berkeley. Uh,

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you know Berkeley. Yeah, and
so of course not this Berkeley Berkeley.

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So Berkeley School of Music is like
what Juilliard is for, like performing arts.

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Berkeley is for like music purely.
Then No, I've only heard of

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VUC Berkeley. Yeah, Berkeley.
I think it's like l e U.

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Yeah, he said Berkeley, not
Berkeley, Berkeley, Berkeley. But you'd

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be like going to like guitar class
and that's randomly like John Mayer's they're teaching

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you that day, yeah or shit
like that. I see. Yeah,

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I bet you. They have to
perform for every class, every unit.

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And I'm sure you can go watch
insane artists you've never heard of on the

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daily. It's out in like Massachusetts. Where's Juilliard? New York, New

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York? Yeah, and the other
one's bombs. I love to go to

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New York one day, one day. But awesome, one of my favorite

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cities, like whole lot too.
Yeah, I haven't been in a while.

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Good hang as well. Yeah,
head up to the Bronx. I

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don't know. Yeah, get some
Caribbean food. Yeah, Kyson and them?

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There isn't he moving to Korea?
He did? Like Japan? Uh,

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Larry Wheels and all those cats are
from the Bronx. So so we've

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been there to work out. Oh
yeah, and what's his face, Bob?

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Oh? Yeah, I think Bob
might be Brooklyn. I might be

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wrong. Yeah, I think he's
Brooklyn. But yeah, New York Cardi

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B's from the Bronx as Yeah,
Brooklyn, Jenny's from the Block. Yeah.

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I mean a lot of fucking music, bro. It's actually kind of

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insane when you think about it,
the amount of artists that are from New

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York, Bronx, all of it. Yeah, Brooklyn. Well, so

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much of the population and the country
is also like east. True. True.

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It's like when if you continental divide, most of everybody is in the

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east of the continental divide. But
just like culturally it makes sense too.

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Yeah, like there's so much more
going on there than fucking Tulsa, Oklahoma.

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Yeah, what are you gonna like? Kind of like white comedians tend

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to like try to like take breaks
and go live life because you need like

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stimulus to make jokes about, Like, you need experience shit to joke about.

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You need like experience to like make
music about. So if you're Jay

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Z or whatever growing up in the
slums, now you have like stories to

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tell, right, But if you
grew up in Oklahoma and your life's pretty

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good and you're just like Bail,
Hey, you know, I guess that's

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where country music comes in. You
can sing about Bail and Hay and drink

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a beer. You know what I
mean? Though, Like the stories and

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country music tend to be very similar. That's true versus like, I guess

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who who's in the bronx as app
Yeah he's Brooklyn. I mean everyone literally

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what you're rapping about? Yeah?
Not a great area, Yeah, not

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a great area. Michael Jackson Life
Experiences, Gary, Indiana. If we

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ever want to talk about childhood trauma, I can get maybe you should be

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a right do you were made to
be a child rapper? No, I'll

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just be one of those what is
that the spoken poetry thing? No?

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Spoken word slam poetry? Yeah,
poetry slams tim and like David so just

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like talk make fun about like fun
of the poetry thing. How people always

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do this like same cadence, but
you don't really need to. That's like

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twenty one Jump Street Jonah Hill does
it. I wish I could just do

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it because it's so funny, But
I'm not good enough to just come up

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with words like Jonah Hills was so
funny in that movie? No, no,

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what's so good? Have you seen
it? You've seen it? Twenty

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one Jump Street with Jonah Hill and
oh my god, he's that movie is

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actually legitimately funny. Yeah, Channing
Tatum and Jonah Hill. I heard the

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second one was actually funnier. It's
good too, Yeah, it's good too.

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They're both pretty good. I mean, those guys, they're just pretty

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funny together. And I know Jonah
Hills under whatever, bad boyfriend? Yeah,

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he's that's so stupid, Like what
defend him? Yeah, I'm not

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defending him, but the anything bad
people cancel the same, whether you're a

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pedophile, murderer, sexual assaultist,
or you're a bad boyfriend. Oh yeah.

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I think it's because the controlling behavior
that shows up in those texts.

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Yeah, is he's a bad boyfriend? Well no, but but but it's

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like I'm not I'm not a slippery
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kind of behavior turns into two I
don't know, can be like toxic on

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an entirely different controlling level for sure, like destroying, So can the creepy

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guy, Yeah, the creepy guy
in the corner could be a school shooter.

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But I'm not going to just put
every creepy guy in the corner and

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call him a school shooter. I
don't know. I don't like people enough.

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I'm willing to just dismiss every Yeah, I don't, I don't.

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I don't think the cancelation is one
you never get canceled, Like it's just

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board they are, it's just internet
shit. Like, yeah, he be

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a piece of shit, boyfriend,
He could be a piece of shit friend.

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Does that mean he's just like is
not? That's just so different than

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being a murderer. It is different
being a murdered. It's different from being

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a rapist. It's different from being
you know. Yeah, but everyone's under

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the under the microscope these days.
So like if there's like a spotlight on

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you, you're fucked everything whatever the
wave catches. Yeah, but there's just

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so many bad people around. Yeah, everyone sucks. I want to talk

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about one, but this is for
it. No, no, no,

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no, no, yeah, yeah, you're canceling people. No stop,

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no, not me, But don't
let's not get into this. Well,

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I don't know. It sounds like
a juicy topic. It is, but

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I can't speak a bit on here, Okay, we have to hear about

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later. So we were dancing around
a topic a little bit earlier before we

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got into what would you spend a
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USAPO worlds, no, US versus
the only the only right this is

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It's like, why do they call
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world doesn't compete in it. It's
like a little bit of Canada. I

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think that argument is different though,
because if you're the best baseball player in

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Venezuela, you're going to play an
MLB probably. Yeah. And same with

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the NBA because that's the big controversy
right now. If you saw the track

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star did you see that? No, So there's an American track star that's

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calling out the NBA for calling themselves
world champions. He's like, why I

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actually go to the Olympics. I'm
actually a world champion. But if you're

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the best basketball player in your country, ninety eight percent chances are playing in

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the NBA. And that's why it's
called the World Championship, Okay, right?

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And same with MLB. Yeah,
although Japan is strong, Yeah sure,

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but I bet you, I bet
you top the bottom if you're the

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best player in Japan, you want
to play here. Mexico saw so pretty

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strong? Sure, sure, sure, But if you want to play here

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because because they want to play as
professionals and so, then if you get

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the best from the world in the
same league and and I don't know about

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what the other countries do, but
in the US for baseball, it tends

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to be an an MLB experienced manager
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and a lot of rookies, a
lot of in terms of what a team

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composition. Oh sure, sure,
sure, so they're not they're not the

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best players in the United States.
Are the best players that could be spared

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to play in the Olympics? Yeah, yeah, No, I'm talking about

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the MLB. I'm not talking about
who the USA team. Oh and why

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it's called the World Series or a
world Yeah right, it's because if you're

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the best in the world, you
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that simple. And that's the difference
between the USAPL. The USAPL is actually

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just Americans. The only way I
would like care to go to any whatever

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competition or spend money on whatever,
like what is it playoff championship game or

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whatever is like if I want to
travel to that state or country I mean

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country, yeah, or like city. I don't really care for the sport

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itself. I don't care enough.
The issue of the USAPL is that they've

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had a meet in China and one
meet in South Korea, and as far

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as I'm aware, that's it.
So they have this very long list on

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their website of countries that are represented
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well, Afghanistan, Albania, American, Samoa, Argentina, Interesting, Austria,

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Australia, Azerbaijan, and it goes
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it have a qualification for that?
Does that just mean like one meat's been

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ran there? This is all it
says, Yeah, because it means that

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maybe people from their competed here.
To me, so that's what's true.

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Yeah, because I've even heard is
it South Dakota or North Dakota They of

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two USAPO members? Oh lord yeah? And so like mamics not to USAPL

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means yeah, I don't think they
do. Yeah. So then you're like

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all right, so like yeah,
they're part of the USAPL, but like

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are they That's why the Olympics is
the Olympics, Like, there's so many

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qualifications you have to get there.
There has to be like a per capita

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like competition and all these things to
even qualify to go there. You can't

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just send a random runner, even
though some people say that has been happening

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with money lately. Who is that
runner who was a Somalian? Yeah,

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they send like the Prince's daughter or
something. She just got smoked by like

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ten seconds in a sprint and they
think that was like a money game.

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But majority of the time to get
somewhere, you have to go through,

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you know, some kind of qualification. That's embarrassed. And that's the other

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thing with the USAPO Worlds I think
is it's like a sign up. I

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don't know if it's an invite.
She should have just pulled out, but

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ump punks, I don't actually know. I can't actually even find it.

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I heard that it's more of a signup.

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We're all of you see the IPF
you have to go win your country's

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Yeah, they say. They actually
say they have affiliates in Australia, China,

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Korea, Hong Kong, England,
Ireland, Netherlands, Mexico, Portugal,

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yeah, and then like what does
that? Yeah, what does an

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affiliate mean? Because like, I
don't know, I'm pretty sure affiliate their

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language. I don't know how standardized
is standardized it is, but like affiliate

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just meets. You paid that five
hundred dollars to be a USAPL X brand's

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coach team, right, so maybe
they have a coach there. No,

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don't even have a meet, right
yea. If someone someone's in Japan and

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loves the USAPL because they're an avylou
fan, then they pay five hundred bucks

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for his coaching team to be part
of the USAPL. It's just all you

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know what I mean, Because then
you're technically a USAPL coach and a USAPL

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affiliate. I guess that makes sense. So then your athletes can compete under

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Japan. But if they don't have
like regular meets there, what's the point

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of like making a competition. The
only point to me that have the nationals

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in the world is to have the
elite of the elite. Power Lifting is

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beautiful because it's a it's a participation
sport, right, the viewers, the

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consumers, they're all participants. Anyone
who buys the gear, who runs meets,

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who goes to the gyms, they
all compete. The fans are the

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ones competing, which is very different
than most sports. But if we're gonna

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if we're gonna build a bracket,
if we're gonna build championships, it has

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to be the best of the best. Otherwise we're just wasting everyone's time.

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Then it literally is there's a difference
between being a participation sport, which is

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good the consumers, the viewers,
everyone knows what's going on. It's really

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cool. That's what makes it so
niche. But versus like a participation trophy

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that's never good. I hate those. Those are so stupid. Get them,

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Like, why would you even want
it? I don't want to accept

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that. I don't know that anybody
really does. I think that that's a

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thing that was forced on a beginning
in a certain generation. Yeah, I

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feel like my generation was starting to
be at the beginning of it. I

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understand. Maybe even like local meets, like you don't compete against anyone who's

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just you get one, okay,
whatever, Like maybe I'll keep people in

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the sport they're interested whatever. Yeah, but like at the higher level ones

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or everyone should at least know,
like just because you're the only one in

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your weight class and division. You
get a metal doesn't mean you're actually like

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what does that mean to you that
your first place? Do you really do

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you really feel that because you didn't
compete against anyone. That's been a thing

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and powerlifting and Massonomics actually shout out
the boys just made a shirt about it.

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It says like powerlifting champ and then
super small. It says like by

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state record bench only like all this
county, but like that's been a thing,

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like since probably twenty thirteen. On
Instagram, people start to put shit

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like California Junior seventy two bench record
holder, Like bitch, no one cares,

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Yeah, like no one gives a
fuck. Yeah, you podium at

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like a legitimate nationals or you have
an all time world record or no one

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gives a fuck. Right yeah,
these people are like who at least wouldn't

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someone I forgot who it was or
there was it was a junior world was

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a thing. And then they put
like best eighty two. I forgot what

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weight class they're in, like in
the world old or whatever, Like you

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know, you only competed in junior
juniors, right and I even competing in

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open and juniors are like kind of
competitive now, but like six years ago,

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no one's signed it up for juniors. I never signed up for a

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junior thing. Always specific. It's
like, dude, a team someone in

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the teens could have potentially lifted more
than you. Right, It's like,

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but you're saying you're this or you're
twenty three and a half. You don't

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understand six months you got to compete
against russ, right, so now what

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are you? You know, like, who cares? Yeah? I was

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so old at the point that I
started competing in powerlifting that I was already

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masters, But I always signed up
for open because there was no such thing

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like there was but yeah, there
there, Yeah, there was. And

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I can't tell you the number of
times that I ended up getting, you

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know, some dinky ass little metal
because I even though I didn't enter as

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a master's lifter, they put me
in that category as well and so and

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there was either one or two other
people in that age group or whatever,

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and I ended up winning something.
But yeah, people sign lifting almost nothing

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and winning something. So yeah,
people sign quote unquote winning multiple like classes

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just like win shit. I get
if you're trying to qualify for again a

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world meet, like a legitimate IPF
all right, that's that's a journey.

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But like if you're just doing it
to collect metals, put it on the

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gram. Yeah, and then like
if your dots is sub three fifty even

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sub okay, I guess sub four
is like pretty common. But like it's

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like, I don't know, like
compare yourself to the like I set a

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bar higher for yourself and this metal. Just know what it means. Keep

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yourself grounded a little bit, you
know. Yeah, it is a fine

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balance of like being proud of your
efforts and journey and yeah, pushing yourself.

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Yeah, but a lot tend to
lean too much on the yeah,

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random records or like chasing a random
record, like oh I got to compete

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here and there because I'm going to
be the junior. I'm like, no

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one competes in that. There are
some people who have a mind there's some

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people who have that mindset who don't
even like who aren't even trying to get

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any record at all, Like who
are below that? I'm like, what

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are you? What are you doing? And I guess if it gives you

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that much fulfillment, that's fine,
but it's just weird when you start to

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make it so public. It's been
a thing. You know, it's cloud.

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It's the cloud culture nowadays, which
I can never I don't like it

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because I've never had that mindset of
like trying to be this or that.

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I've only recently become more like a
ship need to be more competitive and it's

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good, and that's after I became
competitive without trying kind of quote unquote yeah,

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but being competitive is good. It's
just being competitive in like things that

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are so minor. But it's like, if I'm trying to be competitive,

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I'm not bragging about winning whatever place
at a local meet, yeah, because

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I'm like, well this is cool, but I'm trying to aim for this,

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so I'm not like rubbing this into
everyone's face because I know, like

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I have, I'm not gonna be
that kind of I'm not gonna be that

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satisfied until I get to a certain
point kind of thing. Where does that

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sit then for you? With IPF
versus USAPL, because that's like the big

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you know, I feel tsunami that's
coming. You know, I think a

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lot of the usa PL stars because
the splits what two years old, three

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years old? I think a lot
of the USAPL stars are starting to feel

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that way, where like, even
even though the USAPL Nats is highly competitive,

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I feel like the guys at the
top are already feeling like I don't

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want to be the participation ward guy. Yeah, I have to go win

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IPF, right, And I don't
blame them for that either, because it

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really is again like USAPL, only
it's not a world title. It's a

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different set of competitive circumstances from most
people too, because most people at an

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international true international meet are traveling there
for sure, yea, which is still

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huge level time differences, the flag, you know, bigger stage, literal,

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bigger stag, the next step,
Like you know, I'm not going

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to go to IPF until I've kind
of made my like, I guess done

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what I've needed to do in nationals
here like USAPL. But if I like

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kind of feel like everyone my course, then then you got to switch over

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to what's next is Yeah, but
I mean I wonder if that's where things

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end up sitting. And it would
make sense if the USAPL is almost like

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our g League, like our Triple
A to our IPF, because you take

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and you know baseball better than me, but I imagine you take some of

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our good Triple A teams and they're
going to compete on the world stage pretty

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good. That's what we did in
basketball, right we would send our college

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guys and they would go and they
would go play internationally and still succeed.

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So I wonder if the USAPL becomes
that and and you do you you go

404
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:42.480
and you podium a couple of years, and then you win one and then

405
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:45.839
you're like all right, and then
people go to the power of thing America

406
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:49.400
to really go to the worlds and
win win. Boxing is kind of like

407
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.279
that, but backwards for some reason, or you would go to the Olympics

408
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.079
and kind of win and then you'd
go to the big stud Boxing is a

409
00:27:56.119 --> 00:28:00.720
different sport though. Yeah what all
all USA or all US Olympics used to

410
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.279
be that. We used to only
be in amateurs. Like I would go

411
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:04.279
to that switched. Yeah, if
that happens, I would go to the

412
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:07.960
IPF. But if I didn't want
to go to the IPF, I just

413
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.480
want to for some reason, I
want to compete like USAPLF forever. If

414
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.440
my dots beats like whoever's winning the
IPF, then it's like at the end

415
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:18.640
of the day, whatever federation,
whatever meat, whatever, blah blah blah.

416
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.480
If you break it down to the
dots, which is what we're comparing

417
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.599
each other in, or IPF score
whatever, you can use whatever calculator you

418
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:30.559
want. Do they use it different
one now if you score, Yeah,

419
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:32.759
I think they use dots. I
might be wrong. I don't I don't

420
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:36.240
even freaking known, but like regardless, it's like if you put yourself on

421
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:40.039
this equation, on the scale of
whatever equation you're using, and like you

422
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:44.839
compare yourself across just like people person
to person, Like I don't know who

423
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:48.680
cares which one which one you competed
in if it was like a sanctioned meat

424
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.559
you know, and like you're you're
doing similar role, similar equipment. Powerlifting

425
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:53.839
is like the only sport you can
kind of do that, I guess exactly

426
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:56.599
because you can't do that in boxing. Yeah, maybe golf a little bit.

427
00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:59.920
You know, you play the same
course. Yeah, kind of compare

428
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:02.720
scores, but then weather and stuff
a little bit or where you're from.

429
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:07.599
Jim's right, like throwing down even
though even the NATS people don't understand how

430
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.519
big the US is, so like
you're gonna have to, you know,

431
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.480
if you live in California and you're
competing in Memphis or flour nine and a

432
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:15.599
half hours travel. Yeah, it's
still a three hour change. But it

433
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:19.440
is a difference, you know,
getting to train at at home or compete

434
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.160
at home. I think it's different. But if you're taking that into account,

435
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:26.160
you might as well take into account
like the athletes, well, how

436
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:29.839
they're meet pep one and there,
and the fact that they just had a

437
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.680
baby not too long ago and like
their job would be their job was like,

438
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.079
so it looks so great for having
a baby in this like last month

439
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:40.200
or whatever. Like you have to
take their occupation to account and I'll give

440
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:41.759
them what pity points for that,
No, not pity, but that that

441
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.160
is big part of sport. It
is. But like traveling, traveling is

442
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.279
a little different because that's like direct. It's direct. Yeah, baby,

443
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:52.599
it's indirect. I don't know if
I if I lost a like several points

444
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:56.400
due to what I would think is
travel. I'm not saying yeah, but

445
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.920
if I didn't travel, you know, no, you can't say that.

446
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.319
But you can show up at the
same meat. There is a beauty in

447
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.039
that too. What do you mean, like all competing the same day,

448
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:11.400
same circumstances, same judges. But
how like, how like there is a

449
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:17.839
beauty in that winning head to head, like dots will get you in the

450
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:19.759
ballpark. Like, all right,
I'm in this league. I'm not in

451
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:25.319
this league. But competing head to
head in the IPF, Oh yeah,

452
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:26.319
you know what I mean, or
the chef field. I know. But

453
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.960
like if I'm doing that, then
I'm not going to complain about or like

454
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.559
blame a bunch of stuff on the
travel. No, no, no,

455
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.559
I'm not saying travel. I'm just
saying that's it's it is a factor that

456
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:41.200
should be accounted for in what way, in the way that you need to

457
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.920
go there to prove it. Because
if everyone just competes in their hometown and

458
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.960
then because then there would be no
worlds because then everyone would just compete in

459
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:51.920
their hometown and we would just compare
dots on the I agree, that's like

460
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.039
it's cool, but I don't know. Or same with the Olympics. Then

461
00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:00.200
then there would be no Olympics.
You would just run your track time by

462
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.079
laser and just compare scores. Say
it's like IPF, someone wins IPF whatever,

463
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:07.319
but then someone in nationals like beat
their dots for by whatever. Yeah,

464
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:12.319
it's like, I guess in that
case, it's like it doesn't that's

465
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:15.759
like my track thing, because then
no one would go to the Olympics.

466
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:19.599
They would just run their track with
a laser timer and just compare running scores

467
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:22.480
like all I ran, I ran
the forty and a ten. Yeah,

468
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:25.519
but no, you gotta go to
the Olympics. You gotta do it,

469
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:26.440
and you gotta do it with the
lights on, and you gotta do it

470
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.079
next to the other fastest guy.
Yeah, and and same testing protocols and

471
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.640
all the exact same laser, not
the same type of laser, the exact

472
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.000
same laser. I know, you
know what I mean. Yeah, I

473
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.440
agree, it's just like below that, beneath that if I said, if

474
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:42.519
I didn't want, I get it. I get what you're saying. Yeah,

475
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.880
but there there is like room for
that. And that's why I wonder

476
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:52.039
if the USAPL becomes that, it
becomes the jump start. Yeah, I'm

477
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:59.119
going back to the Worlds. But
IPF coefficient they use gl points. Yeah,

478
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.039
they're using using that through the end
of this year, and I don't

479
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:05.319
know what comes after that. It's
talking about good lifts and then why yeah,

480
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:07.480
why do we switch it every two
years? Or whenever they want.

481
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.680
I think that they're testing this to
see can we find the equation? Yeah.

482
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:15.079
Yeah, And I get the improvement
of it because I know Wilkes did

483
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:20.240
have a stronger advantage to like big
dudes and little women. Yeah, and

484
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:23.680
I get it, But like every
two years, every one year, you

485
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:28.400
know, it's like, I don't
know, random, maybe because there's so

486
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:32.839
many lifters that are as a sport
gains popularity or like that you have more

487
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:36.680
stats to work with. Yeah,
no, for sure, there's more data,

488
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.880
but it just seems so weird.
Like changing something in a major sport

489
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:45.200
is like a big deal. Yeah, you know, did it for this

490
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.319
year? A lot of things change
this, Yeah, and so, but

491
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:51.880
that's not every year. Something's not
all that comfortable anymore. Yeah, like

492
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:55.079
having to pitch under a pitch clock, right, totally different experience for yeah,

493
00:32:55.119 --> 00:33:00.640
it's like basketball a little shot clock. Yeah. But but like changing

494
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:02.759
the three point line, they did
that like once, yeah, you know,

495
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:06.000
and then in college they did it. When I went to college,

496
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:07.960
they moved it out from high school. But they did that once. It's

497
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.720
not every year they're like, oh, well the percentages are down, let's

498
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:14.599
move this a foot out. Yeah, that's what I feel like powerlifting does.

499
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.039
They're just like always wiggling these scores, that's true, you know,

500
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:22.880
or even even like the heels down, head up, the bench grip,

501
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:28.119
like they're just always changing shit,
Like the sport isn't that new? No,

502
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:30.599
you know what I mean, Like
they're acting like the sport came out

503
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:35.359
last week. Yeah, I don't
understand any of that. The weird picky

504
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.720
we've talked about. Yeah, right, I just I guess so annoyed just

505
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.799
thinking about that. Yeah, it's
just weird. Wait why why why are

506
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:44.759
we tweeting? Well, because it's
not like like and I understand the baseball

507
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:46.400
reason one. Baseball is run by
money, right, So they're trying to

508
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:50.039
speed up the game so they get
more eyes, so they get more Budweiser

509
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.200
accounts, and that all makes sense. At least at least they have a

510
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:55.000
purpose behind it, I guess,
yeah, they have. The issue is

511
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:59.279
getting people to watch it. But
in terms of advertising, actually losing a

512
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:02.759
half hour of game, you're losing
half hour opportunity for ads. True,

513
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:07.519
but but if you multiply more eyes, yeah, and you charge more p

514
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:10.559
Well, now, like when they're
pitching changes them sometimes they don't pull all

515
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:15.440
the way away, or if there's
you know, if there's a replay review

516
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:20.000
sometimes or whatever, you'll get an
ad like in a third of the screen.

517
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:22.480
Yeah, Twitch, a vertical third. I swear Twitch invented that probably

518
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.800
so yeah, because there'd be streamers
and all of a sudden there's like a

519
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:28.880
can on the side of my screen. I'm like, what the fuck are

520
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:30.119
they selling me? And they'll just
shrink the screen. It's actually genius,

521
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.840
right, because it's kind of a
win win right, right, You get

522
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:37.320
you don't miss a big play and
then you're still getting the new Coca Cola

523
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.000
flavor. Yeah. Yeah, with
the switches, with parlefting and stuff,

524
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:45.000
I think these there's just a bunch
of parlofting dorks have nothing more to care

525
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:49.639
about other than this, and then
they get bored and like, you know

526
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.480
what, this isn't specific enough.
We need to like change this is and

527
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.000
that, Like, dude, god, this is a hobby. Yeah.

528
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:58.960
I do wonder who, like how
that process is made, and I know

529
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:00.760
they have like a council in the
and that, but like I think they're

530
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:05.079
lame. Well, like where's the
intention again with the baseball intention? All

531
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.440
right? We want to speed it
up because we think we'll get more viewers.

532
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:09.239
Like at least there's a there's like
a shining star, Like, what's

533
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:12.960
the shining star with this bench rule? I don't even care. Is everyone's

534
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:17.519
wide grid bench ruining the sport?
Yeah? Besides Instagram haters, real powerlifters

535
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:22.360
never say that, right, No
real powerlifter says Sumo's cheating. There's there's

536
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:28.159
five percent. Yeah, Well,
when a federation cares about your underwear or

537
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.360
what you wear in your head,
I don't even think you no underwear,

538
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:35.519
right, I don't know that.
I can't do your logo on your shirt.

539
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.679
I'm sure a logo, you're fuck
that's about money. Yeah, but

540
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.559
yeah you can do a headband,
but you can't do a hat. Yeah.

541
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:45.079
There's so many things like how's that? Am I hiding fucking a squat

542
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:46.960
suit under my hat? Or steroids? Like what the hell is? There's

543
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:52.159
literally no logic associated with at all. That's why I think it's stupid and

544
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:57.480
a bunch of idiots, like you're
bored whatever, And like dumb rules in

545
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:01.199
other sports that I can think of
always reverted to, like getting rid of

546
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:05.960
the dumb rules, not making dumbles
like the NBA for a long time had

547
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.920
color really tight color restrictions on your
sneakers. Yeah, and you're like,

548
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:13.320
I get it because you want it
to be uniform. But then they're like,

549
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:15.760
wow, what's our intent? And
they took it away. Now you

550
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.599
can wear fucking orange sneakers when you're
a blue team. Like, who really

551
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.960
cares? Right? Well? A
lot of that has to do with endorsement

552
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:28.360
deals for the athletes, where they're
gonna they want to wear their favorite show

553
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.079
from their their sponsor, yeah,
something or something unique or even. But

554
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:34.280
again, yeah, if it doesn't
take away from the sport, and the

555
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.000
NBA cares about money obviously, but
also the product that's on the court.

556
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:40.360
If it makes them have more fun, play better, look better, sell

557
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:44.079
more shit, then it's a win. But yeah, what's the win with

558
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.719
all these little nippigy bullshits. They're
not making any money, right, They

559
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:50.880
should be focusing more on that.
Make money and then give it to the

560
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:53.679
people in the federation. Get them, dude, God, get it to

561
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:58.679
me. I've gotten nothing. Let
them know. I mean, I don't

562
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:00.199
know if people know that. I
think I've mentioned it before. People are

563
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:04.000
like, what really? Yeah,
because the pro status yeah, nothing,

564
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:06.880
well even I mean I'm not the
top of the top or the best of

565
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:08.519
the best, but like shit,
is that where they're heading? So you

566
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:13.239
get your pro card and then there's
the pro circuit. Does each pro meet

567
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:19.079
give money? At least? I
think so because that's like because that would

568
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.679
make sense, because that's what IFBB
does, right, You gotta you gotta

569
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.079
work hard to become a pro,
and then every pro show, I think

570
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:29.880
the podium you get some cash.
So that kind of makes sense if they

571
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.440
had that way. But if you're
a pro for no reason, you know,

572
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:36.840
yeah, I haven't done well enough
to win any money like that.

573
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.800
So yeah, because there's the prom
which doesn't make sense either, I guess

574
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:44.719
like yeah to the smaller folks and
like including me because I'm just in the

575
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:47.719
middle. Kind of it's like maybe
if I've won this or that, you

576
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:52.039
might have thought that I've won something
that I haven't. Yeah, pro ams

577
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:54.360
and lifting don't really make sense to
me because pro ams and every other sport

578
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:58.480
are like an exhibition. It is
where you get to see like just cool

579
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.639
like basketball, like the Drew League, even the leagues I used to play,

580
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:05.400
and you'd get like European pros that
are over here on summer break,

581
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.199
and then you get like up and
coming college kids and you get random people

582
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.960
like me that we're good and they'd
all play together and it's fun, you

583
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.159
know, like or the Drew League
where oh, Lebron James decided to show

584
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:17.880
up and Lebron James playing some kids
from usc playing some kids from the street,

585
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:22.280
just playing some random people. But
a pro am at the Arnold doesn't

586
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.559
really make sense either, Like just
have a pro day and an amateur day,

587
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:30.719
yeah, or only pro days?
Yeah? Like why why can't mall

588
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:32.159
pros just compete against each other?
Well, the Arnold's supposed to be like

589
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:35.480
the biggest thing, and then now
I don't know what it is. Maybe

590
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:37.760
you can look to Jim. The
USAPL is doing something for the first time

591
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:42.760
at the Olympia, which is November
December, But I don't know if it's

592
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.480
I don't know if it's any different. Is it just a pro meat?

593
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:50.199
Is it just a regular meat?
It says pro qualifying. Yeah, I

594
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:53.079
don't know, because then, like
the Olympias like the biggest bi bodybuilding show

595
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:57.480
show in the world, and it
used to be attached to the USPA,

596
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.320
and even then right. It was
just a regular meat which is kind of

597
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:01.840
dumb. Like it was cool you
go to the you went to the Arnold

598
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:05.880
and you saw the expo. They
would do a powerlifting meet in the middle

599
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.079
of all that at the Olympia.
It was kind of cool. But I

600
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:12.800
think it was like a very basic
qual to get there or invite but there

601
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.039
was nothing special about it. But
you're in the middle of an expo,

602
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:20.119
like there's people everywhere. Like it
was a really cool idea, but then

603
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:24.599
what makes it any different or special? Just yeah, yeah, yeah,

604
00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:29.039
that's not enough. If we want
to grow the sport, like and they're

605
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.159
making money somewhere and their sponsors somewhere
that will throw a grand at that thing.

606
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:34.199
Yeah, it doesn't have to be
a millionaire. I don't know where

607
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.360
their money is going. Yeah,
I don't either. That's why I wish

608
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.800
I could make some money off of
it, maybe if I competed this year.

609
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:44.400
So what it says? Happy to
share the newest addition to the USAPL

610
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:52.000
calendar, the twenty twenty three USAPL
Olympia International Good November four, Orange County

611
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:59.199
Convention Center. Minimum qualifying dots four
ninety five, Male four seventy five female.

612
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:00.480
Oh that's higher. That's higher than
I read. I thought it was

613
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:04.760
four fifty four twenty five. Yeah, that's pretty good. Registration is now

614
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:08.480
open for international non US lifters.
There's Olympia and then there's another world's thing,

615
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:13.320
isn't there. Yeah, that's the
World. Yeah, they're just making

616
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.159
it up and it's cool, like
it will be on a big stage.

617
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:20.360
But then same ideas, Like I
heard the only reason the Olympia's in Orlando

618
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.639
is to avoid Formula one costs because
Formula ones running in Vegas around the same

619
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:30.440
time and yeah, and so like
priced them out. So the Olympias like,

620
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:31.599
fuck, we can't, we don't
have that kind of money. We'll

621
00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:36.519
go back to Orlando and run an
XBO. I'm like, again, like

622
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:43.960
what's your point, Like why why
your point should be like to make money

623
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:47.800
and do cool shit, and and
now you're just like running away. I

624
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.079
don't really get it. I don't
really get the people running these things.

625
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.519
And I've never run anything that big, so obviously it's easy to you know,

626
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:58.519
kind of lazy bomber because it used
to be in like septems used to

627
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:00.480
be like right now, Yeah,
I don't know, I don't know that

628
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:04.519
either. I know, during COVID
it puts everything got weird. Yeah,

629
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.679
pushed eight months and it did go
to Orlando, but then it came back

630
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.360
last year and I don't know the
date. Where was it. So it's

631
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:14.639
been in Vegas for twenty five years
or something and then yeah, just during

632
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:16.320
COVID it did one or two in
Orlando, but then it went back to

633
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:21.320
Vegas, and then now it's back
in Orlando. And Orlando's a fine city

634
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:22.800
to runk conventions by all means,
But yeah, like what are you avoiding?

635
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.400
Why are you doing it? What's
the real purpose other than just saving

636
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.320
you money? You're like, I
still think Memphis is a stupid option.

637
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:30.880
Yeah, the USAPL, I think
you'd just lock it down. And I

638
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:38.039
get the competitive advantage thing, but
like just just dropping in Vegas or like

639
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:40.599
go Vegas to Orlando, Vegas Orlando, so you have a East coast,

640
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:45.599
west coast, But to do random
cities that you're getting a deal on a

641
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:50.920
on a ex bow hall, I
don't know. Is it. Do cities

642
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:53.400
bid on these things or do promoters
bid on that? I think that I

643
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:57.039
think the USAPL is too small.
I bet you USAPL just looks for a

644
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:01.199
deal. I think they probably the
opposite well, because they probably can't promise

645
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:04.800
enough money to the city, right, like the All Star Game and stuff.

646
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:07.639
Cities will bid because they know it'll
bring the city money. But I

647
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:12.119
just bet the usapl one probably doesn't
have the data. But like a city

648
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:15.079
like Vegas, it could help Vegas, Like it's not big enough, but

649
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.159
people will go there and do shit. Yeah right if you're just in the

650
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:21.719
middle of nowhere and it's a week
loan. Now, like who wants to

651
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.199
be in Memphis for that long?
That's another question, Like how long should

652
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:29.880
these big national international meets actually be? I mean, how many lifters should

653
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:32.599
be involved? I think the answer
should be fewer enough. Yeah, I

654
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:37.000
agree, put their bank accounts,
one of their moms qualify. Yeah yeah,

655
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:40.639
Why isn't it Why isn't it like
top thirty? Yeah, and it's

656
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:45.880
one day and you because what's nats
right now? It's just a dots and

657
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:47.639
then you just click the button as
fast as you can, right yeah.

658
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:52.440
Yeah, So like technically a bunch
of ninety kgs could show up in very

659
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:57.880
few eighty two's hypothetically based on clicking
speed. Yeah, which is dumb too.

660
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.559
Why isn't it just all right top
thirty of each weight class or whatever

661
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:05.280
getting invite and then they have ten
days to sign up. If they don't

662
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.599
sign up them, we go to
thirty five. But that just seems so

663
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:14.840
simple because now like it actually takes
into consideration, like some people didn't qualify,

664
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:19.599
like compete in a meat to qualify
soon enough. Although like what if

665
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.440
someone was actually more competitive and like
didn't click fast enough, Like you're saying

666
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:27.360
yeah, and it's like now you're
now the like if I were to compete

667
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:29.480
against you and were in the same
weight class and I got in but you

668
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:31.320
didn't, but I know you're you
would beat me. It's like why I

669
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:36.199
feel kind of whatever I place,
It's like I wanted to compete compete against

670
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:40.119
so when I know it's competitive exactly, It's like I would want you to

671
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:43.360
be in the same meat competing with
me, so that if I beat you,

672
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:45.400
I'll feel more SATISFACU like we compete
in the same meat together, and

673
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.440
like I like, like you said
it with the IPF thing, like we

674
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:52.519
can pay the same thing same but
if you couldn't because you didn't couldn't register

675
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:55.679
fast enough. Yeah, it's like, well, then what does this national

676
00:43:55.719 --> 00:44:00.840
meat like supposed to be It's before
like and if my qualifying total, I

677
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:04.559
know it is low compared to like
most people and I got in, Like

678
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:07.119
yeah, it brings the average down
for that weight class. Do you know

679
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:12.400
how many people compete at nuts?
Too many? It's a lot and they

680
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.800
shrunk it. Yeah, like they
have I guess to give them a little

681
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.280
props because we're just shipping on powerlifting. They have made it harder to call

682
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:22.599
because back in the day it was
so easy to call. I would call

683
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.280
on like a push pole. So
they have made the qualifications semi legit.

684
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:29.679
But because but now everyone's strong too, It's like exactly, so it's just

685
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:31.639
like the scale is moving because the
scale is moving. Yeah, it doesn't

686
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:36.039
really, Yeah, they haven't weeded
out that many. And then like yeah,

687
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:38.840
like going to NATS should be like
a challenge. It should. I

688
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:43.280
hate that it's just a participation thing. Yeah, and it's cool for the

689
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.079
community to get there, but why
not have like if they make that tougher,

690
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:50.320
and then they can make regionals tougher, and then regionals could be a

691
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:52.840
cool community thing, you know,
like there should be more of a bracket

692
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.039
play, give people something to strive
for it. Don't we just make it

693
00:44:57.079 --> 00:44:59.960
a participation awards so that there's like
more people who want to join the club.

694
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:02.000
Yeah, because so they could get
a star or stick. There's like

695
00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:05.679
a lot of little things you could
do that, I'm sure, like golf

696
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:09.039
and other sports do. Like say
you win a regionals or say you have

697
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:13.199
to like get top twenty at a
regionals to go to Nats, and then

698
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:16.960
if you podium out of Regionals or
podium out of Nats, you're invited automatically

699
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:20.480
for the next five years. Oh, that would be cool if they just

700
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:25.480
paid for something for once, you
know, like there's kind of no reason

701
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:30.599
not to build something like that because
there's all these regionals and they promote it,

702
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:32.840
but it's meaningless still, it doesn't
get you anywhere. Yeah. Yeah,

703
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:36.039
I was thinking, like the States, I thought, if I didn't

704
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:37.000
compete this one, like, I
would lose my pro card. But the

705
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.519
last two years, but upon thinking
like that I was going to lose the

706
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:44.519
pro card, I'm like, oh
darn, I'm gonna oh wait, it

707
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:47.000
doesn't matter. It never did anything
for me in the first place. I

708
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:50.920
lose nothing. I don't even have
a physical card for them to take away

709
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:52.079
from me. Even pro card,
they give you a real card in the

710
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.519
bodybuilding, Yeah, I don't send
you a little card. People are like,

711
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:58.239
oh, you don't even get a
card, and I'm like, no,

712
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:00.800
they just call it. It should
just be an unlimit a credit card.

713
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:04.440
It should be something something. It
should just throw you a platte card.

714
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.239
Yeah, the USAPO bank account.
Can they make it cool? I

715
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:09.800
don't know. Maybe I'm just being
a baby about it, but yeah,

716
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:14.039
it's okay, but it's not that
cool. They don't hear me anyway.

717
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:16.719
I have no say in any of
this. That's sad and true. I

718
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:20.199
just I remember when it first came
out like a pro thing, and I

719
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.840
was like, that is so cool, Like I finally have something that's like

720
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:25.559
hired to strive for, right,
because you know, I don't know genetically

721
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:30.320
speaking out't I qualified for nationals somehow
and I was like cool, and then

722
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:32.480
I placed fifth. Cool, But
I didn't think I would actually like get

723
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.320
the pro card till I had to
really try for it. But I still

724
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:40.480
got that. And it's like I
thought it was so cool and like prestigious

725
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:45.599
or some type of advantage or like
yeah status or I don't know, showing

726
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:49.679
that I'm a high level but I
don't really I thought I would get something

727
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:52.639
from it and I didn't. Yeah, so I mean maybe you're early.

728
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:54.440
Maybe they got things in the works. I know they like announced all this

729
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:58.440
shit all the time. I don't
really understand it. It's always but it's

730
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:00.599
just there's just a lot of talking
and not a lot of doing. You

731
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:04.559
don't have faith, no, you
know, like how we talk about how

732
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.280
you could plan and have a bunch
of ideas between execute. It's not going

733
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:09.719
to mean anything. That's true.
It's kind of what it feels like.

734
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:15.079
You sound very wise. I just
jaded. I think too, that the

735
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:21.199
size of these means probably has something
to do with the cost of producing them,

736
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.239
right, They gotta know handle the
ratio. Yeah, I think that's

737
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:30.559
probably it, but it it waters
down the level of competition. Hear.

738
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:31.920
There's no way they can't scale it, right, it doesn't have to be

739
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:37.400
in a ballroom in Vegas, like
it could be in like a smaller ballroom

740
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:42.079
or right whatever the fuck, you
know, like a smaller stage that would

741
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:45.599
cost less because it's less square foot. If the qualifications were higher, maybe

742
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:50.840
it would like humble some of these
kids, you know, probably not and

743
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:52.719
like some of these cloud lifters,
it's like you don't have cloud because you're

744
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:57.519
not even I don't know. Cloud
lifting is so not new because I remember

745
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.800
when the USP. What's more,
more people are doing it now. I

746
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:06.079
guess yeah, people called me a
cloud lift us. Yeah you are started.

747
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:09.480
Like everyone was like, oh god, you know three world records or

748
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:13.760
yeah, you know, five American
records and a state record or whatever in

749
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:16.000
one meet and it's like you did
what yeah, Or they'll switch weight classes,

750
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:20.000
yeah did they because that's at least
cool. Some people don't even have

751
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:22.760
any of that, and they'll still
like, no, it's because the Federation

752
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:27.199
was brandy everybody. So if I'm
the first one to bench one thirty five,

753
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:29.119
it's a world record. Yeah.
Yeah. That's how I felt when

754
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:31.320
I was like number one fifty six
or whatever in a weight class and I

755
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:34.280
was a new weight class. Oh
it's a new weight class, and I

756
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:37.239
felt so sad. I was like, damn, that's another thing that's happened

757
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.880
way too often too both I think
weightlifting and powerlifting and switched weight classes at

758
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:43.199
least twice in the last like twenty
years. I would be the first,

759
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:45.079
just what's the point I would be
the first to discredit myself though, I'd

760
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:47.480
be like, oh, it's like
new weight class, who cares, right,

761
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:51.159
But then anyone else would or not
ever anyone else, but a lot

762
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.480
of people would be like fuck yeah, like this isn't that. Yeah.

763
00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:57.480
I was like when Iver had that
realization, I kind of went to the

764
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.000
fifty sevens to see like where I
would have been in the best Yeah,

765
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.679
because because it is the same.
I'm a real competitor, not a freaking

766
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:07.119
anyways. I hate the participation stuff. Do you have a heart out?

767
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.760
Ivy? Kind of? I mean, as to get to arden so but

768
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:19.320
it's yeah, m hmm, we'll
let you be free. Let me see

769
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:27.840
how long it would take ding ding
ding ding ding ding ding dinging? Do

770
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:32.480
do do do do do? What
are you mapping it? Do? Do?

771
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:37.840
Do? Do do? Do?
Okay, dude, fourteen minutes,

772
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:42.320
dude, maybe ten minutes. Maybe
closes up and do a ten minute one.

773
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.360
All right, Yeah sounds good.
Where can people find you Avy besides

774
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:50.159
the pro stage? Uh, I
don't even say that you're a pro.

775
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:52.519
I don't know when the next time. I'll be honest, you're a power

776
00:49:52.559 --> 00:50:00.800
Instagram at ivy dot lou ivy dot
p r oh means nothing, state local,

777
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:06.320
county, doesn't stand zip code,
record holder, it doesn't steffer professional.

778
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:09.239
I wish I could think on the
spot. Another act protein centric protein

779
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:15.920
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780
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