April 2, 2025

IPF drama at the top, AI stealing jobs at the bottom?

IPF drama at the top, AI stealing jobs at the bottom?

We take a stab at which jobs AI might eliminate (do you want your drive-through order taken by a bot?). Plus, the long-time IPF president resigned suddenly a few weeks ago. Is there any situation where a quick exit from a top position like that...

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We take a stab at which jobs AI might eliminate (do you want your drive-through order taken by a bot?). Plus, the long-time IPF president resigned suddenly a few weeks ago. Is there any situation where a quick exit from a top position like that doesn’t mean really bad things have happened?

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I saw an article the other day, you know, we

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did we did the first, the first Rocky movie, and

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the third, one, four or fourth? Yeah, right, sure, maybe

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a one person's view of the best to worst Rocky

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Verse movies, including the Creed movies. And they put the

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original Rocky at number one, which I don't know that

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I would do.

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It's hard not to because it's the originator. It's not

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the best movie.

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But it's not the best movie. But their number two

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was Creed three, which, speaking of of of what's his

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face majors not the majors. Yeah, Like I thought he

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was just kind of a cardboard villain in that thing

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until like the end when he caved like a you know,

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like like like a damn paper towel man. He just

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went like, you know, oh, you know, all forget, you know,

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like I disgrudge that I've been carrying against you for years. Yeah,

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it's kind of like over now or whatever. And and

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Create is like, hey, brother, you know, it's like what.

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Well, he's like the twist is that crazy one? The

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fucked up right?

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Yeah?

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And he took the fall for him yeah yeah. And

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then now what he's rich and famous and he took

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the fall for the homie and and it broke and

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he was supposed to be a better problem. He was

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the boxer, he was the everything. Ye like kind of

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stole his life. It's a decent twist. Yeah, I don't

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know how long you stretch it out. I remember the

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difference between one and two? Which one do they fight

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in the desert? One where he goes like Joshua Trees

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got his foot in is tire for this?

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Two?

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Maybe?

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Two?

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Three? Which one does she become he engaged her?

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Two? Two? That's two, they're married in three and they

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have a kid.

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Yeah. Yeah, they're all kind of the same to me.

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I don't know if that's goods.

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Yeah, a little bit of the same formula for sure.

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Yeah. Yeah, and they based a rocky formula obviously, But yeah,

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I guess it's good that they're all the same.

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The third one is supposedly I mean because Michael B.

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Jordan directed that one and I think co wrote it.

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It's supposed to be based on an anime.

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Yeah, like storylines. Yeah, yeah, I think a lot of

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people are gonna do more that. There's another big movie

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that came out that said it was all like, oh,

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it's just basically an anime just because, I mean, anime

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is popular, so I'm sure there's and you can say

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that for anything though, Like the original Superman story is

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an anime, you know, like it's all the same shit,

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like Hero gets hurt, Hero finds weakness, Hero gets stronger,

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Hero wins. Yeah, that's like what animes are, right, Like, Yeah,

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Superman's untouchable. They find kryptonite, He's not untouchable. He finds

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a way to avoid it. Now he wins. I think

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that's that the dragon Ball formula.

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Yeah, he turns back time.

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Yeah, I don't know Rocket is good. I mean there

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are Creed's done then, or they're gonna do more.

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I don't think they're done.

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Yeah, I mean I'm sure they might even like literally

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steal the formula where he grabs like a kid. Now

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Arcaus Michael b is probably like forty three grabs a

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young prospect and uh yeah, grabs like a fucking eighteen

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year old. What was that dude's name.

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In Rocky buck Uppers name the one in five Rocky five?

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Yeah, five, and then sixty challenges them or whatever.

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Yeah, same bad actor Ditamades?

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Are they young? The young white kid Johnny something something

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like super slick something. Yeah, really like I Hatley Rocket

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or something.

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His real name and his and his name in the movie.

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We're both equally performatively made up. Sounding really, let's see Rocky, it's.

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Like Johnny guns or some shit. Yeah, Tommy Gunn, Tommy

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Gunn and Tommy Morrison. Tommy Morrison just sounds like a

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seventies rocker. Yeah, that's every lead singer in every hair

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band as Tommy Morrison. But yeah, Tommy Gunn and Tommy Morrison.

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Speaking of Morrison's r P Bell Kilmer, Yeah, pretty crazy.

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He died of pneumonia yesterday. Yeah, yeah, throat cancer for

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for years and maybe especially sad now, but that the

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documentary about his life that his son made, I think

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is very good, but also not at all upbeat.

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Yeah, I'm sure. I mean that's all that stuff you

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see like pictures of like Bruce Willis, and you see

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like his daughter writing blogs and stuff like. That's not gonna.

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I didn't watch it. I got sent a video of

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Bill Murray driven to tears over Bruce Willis. Yeah, they

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were apparently close before Bruce. Yeah.

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I don't put that connection together, but they've been in

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Hollywood for sixty years together. So I'm sure you cross

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paths in the early days.

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Yeah, I probably so. Everybody did everything together then, I think, hah,

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very different movie vibes. I saw dan Aykroyd breaking down

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over John Belushi after all these years, and.

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There's something I heard about Belushi. Was it?

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Well, I know the thing I heard, and I can't

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remember who it was now. It's it's escaped me. But

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somebody was the person who always stayed with him when

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he was in LA, either he with them or they

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with him or whatever, and that the time that he

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died was was the time this person was not in

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LA and available to to watch over him.

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I think I heard some like conspiracy shit, you know,

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like he was like a secret freedom fighter type cat.

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You know, I forgot what it was.

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Anything's possible there, anything's possible he was. He was a

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very wild and interesting figure.

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Yeah. I mean a lot of those guys right the

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far Lea's on the Belushi zone. Similar timeline or not timeline,

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but similar story. Yeah, very similar and there. But everyone

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loves him. I mean, that's that Adam Sandler SNL song

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he's saying he's crying about Chris. Yeah, like and yeah,

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they were close friends. But you know, they were both

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so young, and to have that lasting impressions probably means

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you was something cool, you know, Chris Farley at all. No,

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Chris Farley does kind of get lost in the generations

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a lot of things, do you know, Like we always

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make fun of seb Awsome, some of the young cats

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about like whatever. It might be early Will Ferrell stuff

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or early Adam Sandler shit or whatever. And for some

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reason those like grew bigger, I guess because they're alive,

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you know. So Adam could make a new movie and

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people say, oh, this sucks, but you go watch, you know,

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or Chris can't really do that, but there's obviously identical trajectories.

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You know, his face, Yeah, yeah, he was funny. Man,

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He was funny obviously, like energy through the roof crazy.

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Tommy Boy, Yeah, Tommy Boy, Black Sheep, Beverly Hills Ninjas

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the first one I saw. I think it's a Disney

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produced at least I saw it on like the Disney Channels.

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Kind of a kid's movie but not obviously plays a

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role in a bunch of Adams movies. SNL guy, but

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he didn't do that many movies really, right, No, listen a.

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Handful, No, not that many.

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Yeah, because they were all SNL guys, Like his career

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was just kind of blooming. But all those guys, I mean,

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that's why they're all connected to, right, Chris Rock and shit.

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Yeah, because they're and and Anthony Michael Hall was just

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in this season of Reacher and people don't remember that

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he was. He was actually on Saturday Night Live for

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a year or part of a season at least with

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Robert Dounny Jr.

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I do remember Robert Dunney Jr. Which is a weird

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thing because he is funny, but he's not like SNL funny.

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No, no, what you think of No, I mean, he's

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probably funnier doing a monologue than he is in a scene.

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But even like iron Man, like there's he's obviously I

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was like a humorous cockiness, but it's not you know

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what you think of especially that era when you think

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like Adam Sandler and Chris Farley and a lot of it,

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I think is regional too, right, Like New York was

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the only place for comedy, you know, until way later,

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maybe nineties two thousands, it reached West a little bit.

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But I assume where's Adam from New York?

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Sandler.

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Oh, probably Chris Rock is for sure. I don't know

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why Chris Farley feels like it's from Connecticut or upstate

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New York or some shit too. I think they're like

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all from that region, not only obviously career wise with

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SNL and probably the stand ups of bars, but open

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mic night type shit. But I feel a bird's place too,

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because he's always he's obviously he's at the Knicks games

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and shit.

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Brooklyn. Yeah, Sandler, Yeah.

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It makes sense. And even now, yeah, you just see

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him like walking around at like parks and shit. He's

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almost sixty. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean SNL

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was like he's even late eighties, right within three years

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of my age, folks. Yeah, late eighties maybe they were

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on SNL. Yeah, maybe early nineties. Like yeah, I didn't

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even catch their SNL stuff live. I got when I

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was in high school, Like post, I got into like

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comedy a lot in high school. So you go back

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and watch shit or their stand ups, like one of

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Chris Rock's like top two the most famous stand ups

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the was like nineteen ninety nine. You know, I'm fucking ten.

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I'm not watching it live. I'm almost renting a Blockbuster.

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The I think the second season of SNL happened when

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I was in high school and the thing was to

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come like to school on Monday morning and do as

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much of the buss as you could remember.

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Who's the very first blushi in them?

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Definitely early Yeah, yeah, uh Chevy Chase blushy ackroyd uh

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Gilia Ratten or drink Curtain Garrett Morse.

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Interesting.

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Interesting, Well, I had an experienced yesterday that irritated this

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shit out of me, and I thought I would just

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talk about it here because it runs in a particular vein.

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I don't usually go to fast food places, but I

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was squeezed for time yesterday, so I drove through a

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Carls Junior and the the my order was taken by

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a I literally by AI, and my two gripes are this,

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three gripes are this. Okay. So it's not like most

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of the of the people who are running a drive

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through window at a fast food place are putting a

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lot of personality into their their presentation there there the

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way they take your order or anything.

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Some do establishment dependent, Some do you go to you

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go to like a Dutch Bros. Or a Jampa Juice,

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or like a Chick fil A and it's in their

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franchise e annuals.

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Right, it's in like Disneyland style, which is also are

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you just as annoying it can be? But this was

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a soulistic experience.

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Yeah, the the.

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Voice was it was not robotic exactly, but it was

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not human sounding really either. It was sounded very plastic.

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Yeah, I mean that's even ai stuff you fuck with,

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like a chat Gibt voice, like it's just a hair

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up from Alexa. You know, you'd never say it feels

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like warm.

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Major major bitch Number two. It took longer to do

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the process or to get the food, to do the process,

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to make the order because my third bitch, after every

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item that you confirm, it does a suggest to sell

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for something that you don't fucking want.

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The marketing they could, but they used to do it too, right,

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like the super size you want super sized with that?

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You know, like that was like the norm. They don't

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do that as much anymore. I feel like, you want

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fries with that? Oh we have this new vanilla shake now,

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you know they used to do that all the time.

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They do that less too.

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Like I never ordered the meal, but I would probably

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say twenty five percent of the time you get it

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anyway because they're so used to packing it. You know.

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That's like the bigger gripe. I don't eat much fast

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food either, but like they for a second there though,

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just your quality of your actual order, like besides the

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quality of food, like the accuracy of.

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Your order was just slumped.

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Yeah, you have to check the bag fucking thirty times.

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I'm like, dude, it's just not that complicated to put

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the right item in the right bag, and they fucked

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that up. It's been a while. I mean even I

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was in Toronto and like twenty seventeen and you were

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basically ordering on giant pillars of iPads. You weren't talking

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to nobody. They were there. They were there in the

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back cooking it like McDonald's. Yeah.

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McDonald's.

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Canada, I think the first time I ever saw the kiosks,

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but I actually know, well, Canada and Scotland probably be

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the place that I places that I saw the Kiosks first.

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See the throwback like memes, like you wander where like

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people are freaking out. It's like McDonald's in nineteen ninety five,

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and it looks like Disneyland, like there's colors everywhere, and

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there's playgrounds everywhere, and kids are smiling, and you know,

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the seats are orange and there's fake trees on the wall. Shit,

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and it's like McDonald's in twenty twenty five, and it does.

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It looks like a prison. It's like black and gray

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and like modern, which I do like the design of that,

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but like, if you're supposed to be a kid's food spot,

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it's like literally black and gray with monitors and you're like, dude,

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this looks like a fucking open area of a prison.

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It's insane and yeah, for sure, and it's just smashed

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all the joy out of it. The fact that they

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if you drive through a McDonald's, they ask you if

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you've ordered on the app.

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Oh yeah, Like.

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That's essentially the same thing as having the kiosk, but

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it's in your car.

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Yeah, oh yeah. I think that's really common. Still, I

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don't really do that, but like Starbucks, folks do that

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and then you just walk in and snag it.

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Starbucks I get because of the line, you know. Yeah,

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the Airport's the only time I've ever done it.

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Yeah, yeah, I don't really do that anymore.

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Like this is last trip I went on, we had

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to be there very early, and like we had to

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be at the airport at five ish and the Starbucks

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ending up until five thirty and there's a sign to

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use the app, so you go to the app and

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it won't take your order until It didn't take my

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order until five thirty one for whatever reason. It's like

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five thirty would have been fine, but because they don't

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want to get slammed, I guess, but they got slammed anyway.

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I mean I was one of the first people to

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hit the button and there were a bunch of orders

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in front of me. Like it's like concert tickets or whatever.

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I don't know coffee is important for flying at that hour,

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but still yeah, but still, but anyway, what my other

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bitch is that, you know, it says we're training our AI.

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It's like to to give you a better experience or whatever.

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At some point, people have to have jobs, right, I mean,

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we can't replace everything with AI.

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Yeah, but I mean they said that with the Internet,

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they said that with the calculator nude, the jobs will

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just look different. They're just gonna everything's gonna be different,

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that's all. I don't think you just eliminate every job.

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You know, like gyms aren't gonna go away. People are

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gonna need physical fitness. You know, there's gonna be certain things,

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but like, yeah, a lot of data driven jobs probably

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will go away. Yeah, or like that is a basic

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ass job, right, Like you're.

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But Ali is still so fallible.

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I mean yeah, of course, of course it was the

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internet at the beginning and the Internet was made yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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but I mean they're also you're just never gonna stop it.

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It's gonna go and it is moving quicker than ever. Man.

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You get like you get the thirty month that's going

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on right now, the I think it's a thirty month

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update on the on the Optimist robot from Tesla, and

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you see a walk in the first time and you're like, dude,

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I'm kicking that thing over. It's gonna hit a pebble

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and die. And now you see it and you're like, dude,

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that's like Michael Jackson walking like that. Things you know,

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like that thing is smooth and they just change whatever

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robotics like, things are accelerating quick and yeah, a bunch

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of shit will disappear. But the big one also is

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because that Ghibeli Studio chat GBT went viral whatever four

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days ago. People are freaking out. And I love Twitter

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because like a lot of the guys that I follow

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are around my age group, and they're just better rage

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baters than me. So it'll just go hard, you know,

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and they'll be like, like the shout phase Banks, it's

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just like a og in the game. You know, he's

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just a rage baiting god. He's like, he's like, fuck it,

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they're way better than you. Like, I'm not hiring an

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artist ever again. Like they're not gonna bitch. I'm gonna

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need no revisions, They're not gonna be late, they're not

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gonna act like as soon as this picture is successful

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that it was all them like and it is true,

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like there's a negative to work with all these people too,

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but those artists, hopefully will just go and do something else.

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You find a new medium. Maybe maybe it raises the

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value or the merit of physical mediums versus digital art.

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But yeah, a lot of digital jobs are gonna bounce.

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But it allows you to be like creative in other ways.

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You know, you go do yeah, you go build shit

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in person if you're an artist, and stop fucking around

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with digital because even then people were making fun of it.

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Right thirty years ago, people say like, well, are you

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an artist? You're drawn on an iPad? Yeah, you know.

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But then now when you think artist, you're thinking about

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a digital artist, you know, like like yeah, Picasa or whatever.

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But most people were thinking like photographer, videographer, editing. How

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good they are with all these these things. You know,

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it's just a change, just change of the times.

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Totally unrelated, but maybe not entirely entirely unrelated. I was

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in Savannah a few weeks ago and went to, uh,

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there's a very big art college that is all over Savannah,

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and instead of having like one centralized campus, they rehab

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older buildings and make them into into you know, the

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the the center of a particular school or whatever. So

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we went to the art museum, some modern art muse museum,

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and there was this twenty five minute musical presentation thing.

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It was all kind of electronic and like tuned voice,

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like electronically tuned voice and stuff, and it was a

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completely dark room except for there was a band of

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video screen that maybe like maybe like a foot maybe

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between foot and eighteen inches high that runs sort of

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the middle of the room all the way around and

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the sound is coming from everywhere. And I originally walked

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into it thought well, this is a little too strange,

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like and because it's dark and you can't really see

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where you're going and whatever, because because the lights on

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the on these screens pulse and they change and they

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look like like waveform some of the time, and you know,

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like it was crazy. And I ended up being in

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there entirely by myself and the portion because it was

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it's you know, it's twenty five minutes, but it's it's

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discrete segments of music, you know, like three to five

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minutes each each of them. It was fucking cool. And

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I came out of it and I'm talking to my

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wife and my mother in law who were with me, saying, yeah,

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this is like the coolest thing I've seen pretty much

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on this trip. And we go in and it's a

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piece of We go back in a piece of music

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that is totally fucking disturbing. It's not there isn't any

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vibe to it at all. Like when I was in there,

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it was very choral and harmonic and and felt very

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you know, like I don't know, zend is not really

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the right word, but but it felt very, very peaceful

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and uplifting and stuff, and they go in there. It

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was like bad traffic. Yeah. Yeah, it was a little

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bit too much. So anyway though, you know, digital art,

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music whatever. Yeah, he can be your inter miss situation.

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Yeah yeah, I think the creativeness will still always be

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there like that. You know, like even with AI making

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like posters better or like things you need quicker, faster, cleaner,

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there's always gonna be room for creative and if you're

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creative enough. I actually think it might it might even rate. Yeah,

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it might raise a meritocracy in all art.

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Might.

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Yeah, you've gotta have to be creative rather than do

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this other shit. I kind of wish music would do

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the same supposedly. I know it's a controversial figure. We

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don't have to talk about at the moment, but uh,

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Kanye's new album is supposed to be all AI and

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some people are all bitch about it. But I'm like, dude,

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I think it's genius. Like people were talking shit on

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him when he used autotune in Ato Eights and Heartbreaks

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and like Ato Eights and Heartbreaks, people when it came

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out didn't like it. Now they look back, like, man,

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that's one of the best hip hop albums of all

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time because he used autotune. So if he's the first

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to do a full album AI and people bitch about it,

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and he's the perfect one to do it, because you

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can't say, oh, you're untalented, so you did AI. Like

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he's been at the top of hip hop for thirty years.

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He made some of the best hip hop tracks of

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all time. Can't say like, oh, you're defaulting to that.

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But I think it's all just tools. The creative will

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always show if you use the if the right creator

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has the right tool, and AI is just the highest

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level of tool we'll ever have.

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We were talking before before you got in with Josh,

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one of our members. He's a nurse, and he was

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talking about having been in a presentation where they were like, oh,

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this AI stuff is going to make nursing so much

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easier and you're you know, not, We're not gonna need

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as many nurses because everything you do is going to

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be more efficient or whatever, and he's like, bullshit, there's

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no way that it makes that much difference. Like I

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would imagine that with with diagnosis is probably the thing

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that is the most useful for and it's and they're

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using it right now as a check for radiologists, because

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it's it's relatively easy, even for a well trained radiologist

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to miss something or to misinterpret something. And if you have,

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you know, an AI that has a ton more data

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available than a person's life experience or education, that makes

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that makes sense. But it's you know, nursing is a

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thing that you bodies move bodies. That's I mean, there's

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no there's no way to fix that. There's no way

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to make that faster. And I would argue that the

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amount of focus that has been over the last twenty

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years or so on electronic medical records has made doctors

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very distracted. It's difficult to have a conversation one on

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one with a doctor when they're not typing into a computer.

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Yeah, you know, it's like a bigger cultural thing. Like

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I don't know if you'd blame the computer for that.

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Yeah, I mean, it just kind of depends on the person, That's.

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What I mean. Like the whole culture of the medical

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system has led to that too. The right Like you're

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getting paid by the patient, you're getting paid by the hour,

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depending on the system you're in, Like, why is he

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going to give you his whole heart?

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I guess, but you know, like I don't know.

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They're not like trained to give you like care. Yeah,

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I'm not trying to have customer service. Yeah yeah, And

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sure that's not all doctors by any means. But if

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the systems like that, yeah, I don't know if like

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just digital data does that. And that's the same with AI,

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like AI as we think of it now, which you're

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allowed to like ask chat GPT. Yeah, might not make

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nurses jobs faster or more efficient, but the point of

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AI is how it's going to be so exponential that

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we can't even imagine where it's going to be in

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five years. So like I would say that probably in

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five years it might do a lot of nurse's jobs better.

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But if it makes people healthier, like, why why are

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we going to fight it?

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Well, I don't think you necessarily anybody's fighting it, But

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when or like when they make comments about your will

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need less staffing, that that's a problem. And I think

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that's just a problem universally. We can't replace everybody with

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with computers and AI and stuff, because then people don't

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have jobs. It doesn't make any sense to me that

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we wipe out, you know, egments of the economy.

462
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Yeah, but just to my point of the Internet, that

463
00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:06.720
exact conversation was happened in the early nineties, and then

464
00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:10.559
you just find new jobs, new new avenues open, right, Like,

465
00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:13.319
how many computer programmers and website builders are there now?

466
00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:19.119
Hundreds of thousands. In the seventies there was three. Yeah,

467
00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:22.160
you know, they just moves, it just moves. How many

468
00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:26.680
gardeners were there in nineteen forty.

469
00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:26.440
Oh, that's a good question.

470
00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:29.240
Probably hundreds of thousands because people need food. How many

471
00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:31.839
are there now? There's fucking three big ass companies talking

472
00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:35.319
about farmers, gardeners, whatever, whatever, you get what I mean.

473
00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:37.480
You understand what I'm saying. I will.

474
00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:39.359
When you said gardeners, I was thinking lawnmowing.

475
00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:41.240
So that's what we call them now, but I would

476
00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:44.559
call that a garden. Gardens have vegetation.

477
00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:50.440
Yeah, well obviously, yeah, a farm is a great big garden,

478
00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:50.799
I guess.

479
00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:53.079
Yeah. Yeah. And that's my point is, back in the day,

480
00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:56.400
there's a million gardeners doing gardens, and now we have

481
00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.200
three farms. Yeah, right, you never thought about that. Are

482
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:04.160
you gonna blame the guy that invented refrigeration? No, And

483
00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:05.920
you don't want you. We don't want to go back there.

484
00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:07.279
I don't want to go back there.

485
00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:10.559
No, But like yeah, I mean but this brings up

486
00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:14.680
a whole argument about like factory farms versus.

487
00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:18.799
But to me, again, that isn't the refrigeration invention problem. No,

488
00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:20.839
that's a cultural governmental problem.

489
00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:24.160
Yeah, cultural government. Yeah, that's assist capitalism.

490
00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:27.079
Same yeah, same thing with the with the computer data. Like,

491
00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:30.240
it's not computer data making this like a punch ticket

492
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.119
out a deli at your doctor. You know, that's like

493
00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:38.880
a whole cultural insurance problem, medication pharmacy problem, you know,

494
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:43.119
no soft skills problem, no nutrition, I mean, the whole

495
00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:44.960
medical system we talk about all the time, right, Like

496
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.400
you talked to any any men and they're like, yeah,

497
00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.119
we did like two weeks on nutrition, Like okay, Well,

498
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:54.640
like it isn't that kind of the basis of all

499
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:57.599
health of all humans, you know, Like shouldn't we be

500
00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:01.039
worried more about preventative stuff than just fucking shoving them

501
00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:03.680
with statins so they fucking lower their cholesterol.

502
00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:07.039
Yeah? My other bitch about the medical system. This is

503
00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:09.079
so hard to hold on to a primary care doctor.

504
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:11.279
I'm losing another one. It's like, how do you even

505
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:14.200
get to scene, Like it's hard.

506
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:16.319
Yeah, it's just a machine. It's just a machine.

507
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:20.119
And I don't understand. I don't understand the dissatisfaction. I

508
00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:22.559
don't know who's offering them more. I don't understand, like

509
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:25.079
I don't know all the life choices that pull people away.

510
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:27.240
I told them this current one that I'm losing. The

511
00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:30.119
last time I saw him, I was like, please, don't

512
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.480
go anywhere. And of course he's still left. Fuck her anyway,

513
00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:35.759
story of life. Yeah.

514
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:38.200
Sorry, we'll get a new doctor in Fresno for us.

515
00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:39.960
All fix our ships or.

516
00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:45.799
Gentry, oh, Daniel, Yeah, yeah, he can fix our ship.

517
00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:49.759
They'll take care of us. He can do my first colonoscopy.

518
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:53.279
He's going to be an orthopedic surgeon.

519
00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:57.400
He's got to know buff doesn't do decently a two

520
00:26:57.400 --> 00:26:59.839
week course years.

521
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:02.240
Bones, bones and buttholes.

522
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:04.839
Don't really there's a bone in there somewhere. Pelvis is

523
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:10.559
high enough. Not someone's bone. There's a pelvist deep in there.

524
00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:11.119
You can fix.

525
00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:21.160
Uh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. The other thing I wanted

526
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:25.160
to get to that we haven't really talked about is

527
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:28.359
the fact that the president of the i p F

528
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:38.319
about a month ago resigned, apparently under pressure and quite quickly.

529
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.359
Resignation when you delete all your socials at right after

530
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:42.160
is a little bit of.

531
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:47.480
A question mark. Yeah, no, I mean that's like there

532
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:50.799
are there are if you just just go to to

533
00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:53.039
the powerlifting subred and you can see some of the

534
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:55.440
allegations that are in there. I don't think I necessarily

535
00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:58.440
need to repeat them now, but there there's some like

536
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:01.680
bad behavior alleged there.

537
00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:04.240
I just know about Reddit, like, I'm sure there was

538
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:06.000
great because we've been in this sport forever and there's

539
00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:09.359
rumors about corruption everywhere. And I tied a lot to FIFA,

540
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:12.039
and there's a documentary on FIFA's corruption and the mob

541
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:14.160
and all this crazy shit, and it's just like too dry.

542
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:16.559
I couldn't finish it. I am very interested because I

543
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:18.759
know FIFA's known for his corruption, but like it was

544
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.119
just one of the worst documentaries. I couldn't even buckle in.

545
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:23.920
So I'm sure they're similar with ipf right. And I've

546
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:27.400
have first and experience of things that I won't mention,

547
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:30.720
but you know, money that you got to pay to

548
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:32.400
do this when other people don't got to pay, and

549
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:35.839
the Reddit mentions things of that nature. You know, the

550
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:38.200
same with the Olympics, And we've talked about Icarus and

551
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:40.000
how much we like that movie all the time, about

552
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:43.319
which country is running, what, who's running, who, who's friends

553
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:45.960
with who? And then who's paying two grand to pass

554
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:47.599
the test and who has to pay two one hundred

555
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:51.599
grand to pass the test? And yeah, there's allegations everywhere,

556
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:55.480
so who really knows, But there's been rumors forever just

557
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:59.079
about him as and what's going on and where the

558
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:03.119
money goes, because there's insane money everywhere. Yeah, but I

559
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:05.079
don't know if there's a fix either, right, because like

560
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:08.559
you know, you want to look at politics or the

561
00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:11.039
med thing, everything we complain about, like you just replace

562
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.920
one figurehead with another figurehead, it's probably a systemic issue, right,

563
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.759
Like we're trading these presidents everywhere in America and like

564
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:19.480
issues aren't going to get fixed because they're all on

565
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:21.799
the same goddamn team, or whoever's controlling them is on

566
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.359
the same goddamn team. And so like, yeah, whoever was

567
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:28.200
next just stepped into Gaston's position, and like that guy's

568
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:31.079
going to be an angel, Like I don't know, Yeah, I.

569
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:33.400
Mean, like you almost have to go outside of an organization.

570
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.400
And then and then and then like that person has

571
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:43.200
to get you know, inculcated to the culture and then

572
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:46.039
decide what they need to change about the culture right

573
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:50.400
and the way and do it. I mean these a

574
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:54.200
lot of these allegations were not specific to how he

575
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:55.599
was running the organization.

576
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:57.440
Some of them, Yeah, extracurriculars.

577
00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:02.720
Yeah, but yeah, definitely extra curricle. And there is there

578
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:07.839
any scenario other than personal illness, illness of a family member,

579
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:11.839
you know, loss of a family member something like that.

580
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:15.880
Is there any scenario where the president of anything steps

581
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:20.200
down very quickly and deletes their their social media that

582
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:21.319
isn't a scandal?

583
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:24.559
Yeah? I mean I think if I think, yes, like hypothetical,

584
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:28.079
but just again, having thirty years or rumors around this guy,

585
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:30.440
probably not, you know, because yeah, like people can have

586
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.519
crisises or need a new chapter or yeah, life's crazy,

587
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:37.240
you know, or like, yeah, there could be one personal

588
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:42.640
decision if there wasn't two decades of rumors on you know,

589
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:45.200
there's two decades of rumors and then it gets a

590
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.839
little weird, you know. And I would say, like democracy

591
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:50.440
feels kills all this, and like obviously there's issues with

592
00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:53.519
democracy because there can be corruption at any level on anything.

593
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:56.839
But you know, if you're paying fucking two hundred dollars

594
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.960
a year to be part of the USAPL or power

595
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:03.160
Lifting America or IPF or whatever, like, yeah, maybe maybe

596
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:06.960
the folks should vote you know who it is, Yeah.

597
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:10.039
Yeah, instead of the like executive committee or whatever.

598
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:12.640
Yeah, or like or yeah, do at least a little

599
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:14.079
bit like you're voting in the committee and then the

600
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:15.319
committee chooses or something.

601
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:15.599
You know.

602
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.119
And we've always talked about the IPF in particular being

603
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:20.440
like an old head thing. I was talking to a

604
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:23.440
powerful homany today and like twenty eleventh IPF was like

605
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:25.640
very not cool. It was known as like a single

606
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:28.839
ply thing. There was raw obviously, but no one's doing it.

607
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:30.960
It was just like the single plinatty thing. But it

608
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:33.880
still wasn't cool. You can't name anyone that won it

609
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.680
since Ed Cone, and so no one cared, and so

610
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:40.599
the people in charge were the same ones now as

611
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:44.319
they were then. But yeah, like you know, and just

612
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:47.000
like throwing random names like yeah, where's like a Bryce

613
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:50.119
Lewis or like Elaine Norton, Like those guys should probably

614
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:52.400
be the ones leading the way on these things, because one,

615
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:54.039
I know, they're smart guys two. I know they care

616
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.119
about the sport and they are they just have new

617
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:58.559
ideas and they've competed elsewhere, right, you know, I mean

618
00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:02.000
Bryce competed head to head in SPF like in whatever

619
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:05.319
twenty eleven. Like those type of people, or at least

620
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.839
their type of ideas, going back to a democracy would

621
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.160
probably push this thing more forward if they if they

622
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:11.680
don't want to do it, they would know who to

623
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:14.720
put in that place to do it rather than again, Yeah,

624
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:16.839
they just passed the torch to so and so is

625
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:19.599
now the president. So and so is the new vice president.

626
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:23.240
Probably probably won't fix any as badness.

627
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.839
As to who once said it. Meet the new boss

628
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:28.119
same as the old boss.

629
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:32.799
Yeah, Perc, I just don't doubt there's any change. Yeah,

630
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:36.680
the FIFA alligator, the FIFA correlation popped in my head

631
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:40.000
real quick. And then the other one is just like

632
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:42.359
the state of natural powerlifting in general, you know, like

633
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:44.519
it's cool. There's a lot of new faces and new

634
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:47.279
strong folk like taking over, especially in the US because

635
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:50.680
you know there are other very strong countries, but we

636
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.279
do lead the way in powerlifting like popularity, at least

637
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:54.839
the culture. I would say we lead in a lot

638
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:59.559
of ways. But then there's like just it's still fragmented again.

639
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.440
You know. Five years ago, the state of natural powerlifting

640
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.279
was like a dope community that's growing with mega nats

641
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.359
in the USAPL and huge local meets and everyone knowing

642
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:10.400
each other and having a good time. And then now

643
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:12.240
all my friends that run meets and all the people

644
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:15.240
I see on Instagram and the community got fractured by PA,

645
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:19.240
and it's getting fractured even again because usaplnts are closing

646
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:21.839
the door and making it harder to go. IPF now

647
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:25.160
has got this drama and then like the one yeah,

648
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:26.759
cool place to go, And some of it's on the

649
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:29.799
organizations and some of it's on you little nerd zoomer

650
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.319
lifters that have ADHD and can't stick to something for

651
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:35.519
two years, you know, like especially sport like powerlifting, where

652
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:36.720
if you want to be good or you want to

653
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.960
build like any kind of legacy, and it doesn't mean

654
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:40.440
you have to win IPF, but you want to be

655
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:42.400
a part of something, you kind of have to do

656
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:44.079
it for a while. You know. You can't just like

657
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.759
bounce in and out and people are out running and

658
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:50.119
fucking jump roping and whatever like and obviously I jump

659
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:52.599
rope and I do other things too, but like I'm

660
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:54.640
not saying, you just have to be a part of it.

661
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:56.319
You don't have to compete to be the IPF world,

662
00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:57.720
but you have to be a part of it if you,

663
00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:59.440
you know. And the issue is that they were the

664
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:03.119
loudest one saying, you know, your fucking Instagram name is

665
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:06.079
Powerlifter two one five ninety eight kilo. You know, Like

666
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:08.159
that's the issue, right, Like you you act all in,

667
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:10.679
but then like your actions don't don't follow that up.

668
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:15.800
Yeah, the Instagram names really confuse me sometimes, like what

669
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.239
people are trying to communicate. I think that unless you

670
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:23.159
own a business, you should put your business in your

671
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:25.920
IG name or put a business like you're somebody that

672
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.199
you work for if you don't own it.

673
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:31.440
It's like even Twitter is more old school, not by

674
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:33.079
that much, but it is more old school, and people

675
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:37.000
tend to do that or like be explicit about that,

676
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:40.039
like these are my thoughts. Yeah, except follow a lot

677
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:42.159
of like business folks. Well obviously they are like CEOs

678
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:45.480
of giant billionaire companies and so like they're saying like

679
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:48.199
these are my thoughts, these aren't associated with and even

680
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:50.639
some of them are their own company. Yeah, you know,

681
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:55.320
it's silent my investment group. But my Twitter is my Twitter,

682
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:57.480
and then I'll run that one that way, where yeah,

683
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:01.360
I agree, powerlifting and just next generation stuff. People just

684
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.199
don't care. They don't really they don't really see that,

685
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:08.639
Like pr isn't really a thing. You know, I'm surprised

686
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:10.800
we actually don't see more of that, Like so and

687
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:14.840
so got fired for Instagram story. You know, you're thinking,

688
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.760
like nowadays people be posting some crazy shit and like

689
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:20.559
scandals or whatever, like you cheat on your spouse back

690
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:22.840
in the day, you're getting fired from a big investment group.

691
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:25.440
Like I know people are getting outed right now on

692
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:28.000
it on social media, but maybe no one's got jobs.

693
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:28.880
That's why.

694
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:30.639
Maybe that's what it is. Yeah, I don't know.

695
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:32.679
I don't know either. I do not know either. I

696
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:34.320
know I don't know what the IPS is doing. I

697
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.519
think partly in America this week, next week it's soon,

698
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:40.639
NATS I think is in Atlanta very soon, us A PO.

699
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:42.559
Right afterwards maybe next week.

700
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.840
Yeah, also in Atlanta, which is you know, another eyebrow raise,

701
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.719
like where's the what are we doing? Like you're supposed

702
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:51.599
to be competitors but I think both their nats are

703
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:54.760
in the same city. And I've heard Atlanta school. You know,

704
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:56.079
I've never been, but I heard of school.

705
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:57.880
But uh, savannahs cool.

706
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:00.960
I forget thinks about Georgia. You really been to Georgia either,

707
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:04.719
But yeah, I hear good things. Yeah, we'll see. I

708
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:06.039
don't know what those are gonna look like. This is

709
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:09.320
the first year USAPL restricted everything. I think. I think, yeah,

710
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:12.360
the totals so yeah, I mean, I just it goes

711
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:14.400
back to what we were talking about with Dean about

712
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.159
like the CrossFit Games a couple episodes ago, like, yeah,

713
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:19.039
the event doesn't make money, and yeah, you have to

714
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:20.920
make money as a company, but sometimes you have to

715
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:24.280
sacrifice events to make that work. You know, like concerts

716
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:27.239
back in the day weren't a big money maker for musicians.

717
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:28.760
They're making off their albums.

718
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:29.679
And shit, and now it's flipped.

719
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:31.519
Now it's flipped and they've had to find ways. But

720
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:33.599
the point is, like, yeah, if like maybe nats, you

721
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:35.360
have to eat it a little bit, and that's your

722
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.559
marketing right, like right, because you want to get people

723
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:39.280
there to have fun, you want to get people there

724
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:40.679
to participate.

725
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:42.280
It's a little bit of a lost leader.

726
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:44.519
Yeah, and get creative with how you make money there.

727
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:49.719
But if you're just like restricting calls, it's probably not

728
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:51.119
gonna be fun to go to. If you're moving to

729
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.360
random ass cities like Memphis and Atlanta, it's probably not

730
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:55.159
gonna be I mean, Atlanta. Maybe there's a little more

731
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:57.440
reason to visit because I have heard it's cool, but still,

732
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:00.920
like we talked about all the time, like CrossFit diet

733
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.320
as soon as it went to Wisconsin, you know, like

734
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:06.079
the best GNATS probably in the last decade was at

735
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:10.480
in Vegas, and everyone agrees for USAPL. So it's just

736
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:13.199
like big picture stuff. It seems like I don't know

737
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.280
again who's leading the ship, but it just seems to

738
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.280
keep missing the mark. And it's only gonna get worse,

739
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:20.239
you know, IPF drama's gonna trickle down to powerfulting America drama.

740
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.440
They can't sell out meats. USAPL is getting restricted. These

741
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:25.440
kids are uninterested for whatever reason.

742
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:29.039
If you yeah, because if you restrict GNATS, then you

743
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:32.239
you disenfranchise people who are trying to get to NATS

744
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:35.119
by competing in local meets, and so you're killing local meets.

745
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:37.519
Yeah, and they're they're trying to buff regionals. But then

746
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:39.800
like why, like why what makes that cool?

747
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:40.320
Yeah?

748
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:41.800
You know, like why would I want to go there

749
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:44.920
when it's just gonna be my gym members where the

750
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:46.760
cool part of that's is you're seeing your homemie from

751
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:48.840
Florida that you see once a year, and you get

752
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:50.840
to go see Russ and you go see all like

753
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:53.599
your favorite lifters or now if Russ isn't in your

754
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:56.679
regional or whoever you're if your favorite YouTuber is, yeah,

755
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:58.800
you're not gonna get to see them compete. Yeah, it

756
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.000
does complicate things, and I do you like that path?

757
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:02.960
I do think it should be more bracketed like that.

758
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:08.280
You know, competitiveness. Competitiveness always raises the bar for everything.

759
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:11.320
You know, the better you you allow five hundred teams

760
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:14.119
into March madness, it's not cool anymore, you know, Like, yeah,

761
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:17.320
you need some limitations. But yeah, I don't know if

762
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:19.719
these guys have future vision like that, And I do

763
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:22.239
wonder the memberships memberships of the stuff might be the same,

764
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.559
but like the cultural pulse is definitely on a low.

765
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:28.280
Yeah, And if you if you're restricting the number of

766
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:32.599
people who compete, then you should be doing more for

767
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:33.840
the lifters who do.

768
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.480
Right, Yeah, and the shows we talked about, Yeah.

769
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:40.280
I mean it's just this. If you're gonna shift the money, yeah,

770
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:43.480
it's everywhere instead of just retaining the money, which seems

771
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:44.159
like what's going on.

772
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:45.960
Yeah. I didn't get to read the full article. I

773
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:47.519
saw it on the way out the door. But like

774
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:50.599
some I think a British marathon runner who's really good

775
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:52.480
decided not to compete for Britain because you had to

776
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.039
like pay two k to go compete a marathon. Yeah,

777
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.119
you know, and when you hit say that about like

778
00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:59.280
the world's one of the world's best marathon, he's like, dude,

779
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.440
that's fucking ridiculou. But that's happening in powerlifting everywhere, right, right.

780
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:05.440
You have to pay for every meet, every hotel, every everything, Like, yeah,

781
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:07.440
none of them makes sense. And I know no one's

782
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.440
getting no I wouldn't say no one. I know a

783
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:11.360
lot of people aren't getting filthy rich off of this.

784
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:14.400
You know, the regional chairman of USAPL isn't, you know,

785
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.559
driving a lamb bo. I get it, But there's got

786
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:19.519
to be ways. There's got to be ways, you know. Yeah,

787
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:22.360
it sucks, I agree, but that is the sport it is.

788
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:24.239
Well, that's all I got for today. We're pumping up

789
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.039
on a meeting anyway, So, uh, where can people find

790
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:27.320
your mic?

791
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.679
Solid Mike? Where you want to find me? Uh? Good

792
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:32.920
luck in Nationals for all the homies out there. I

793
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:34.639
kind of did want to go because I got homies

794
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.159
in Atlanta. But it's a long flat. That's a long

795
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.920
flat for a little bit of powerlifting. Yeah, I'm a

796
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:42.599
Sebastian in the Scoreburnd bil on Ig.

797
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:45.800
I am at the Jim mcdannell the social media. This

798
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:48.119
show is fifty percent Facts, for percent is a word

799
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:50.760
and fifty is just numbers. Fifty percent Facts is a

800
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:54.119
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801
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802
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