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Welcome. I was asked the agenda
for the podcast by Jim Members. I

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told him that the we have late
breaking news reports today in the first report

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of the day. I forgot his
name already, Adam mister Supersized Me pasted.

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Oh yeah, no, Morgan,
spurl Morgan. I just knew some

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kind of Yeah, cancer fifty two. I don't think he got it from

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a month of eating McDonald's. But
yeah, conspiracies will spawn, I'm sure.

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Yeah, there's rumors everywhere, and
I think it was going on while

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the show was going or maybe when
we did the do we do the video

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on here? I think we did, at least we've talked about it that

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there's a lot of rumors of alcoholism, but the man himself. Yeah.

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And then I was told that he
did a chick fil a version of that,

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which I haven't heard of. But
I tried to watch Supersize Me two

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or three, and it is about
chicken, but I don't think it's about

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him eating chicken. It's about like
chicken farming. I think that's true.

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Yeah, yeah, so he goes
in all these chicken farms and he does

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break down some like good info in
both the films, although I disagree with

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majority of it where he I think
in the second one in particular, he

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like tries to start up a chicken
farm and show that process, and he

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talks a lot about the actual laws
and the lies and the mis marketing about

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hormone free or added sodium and all
those things and how and I can't remember

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exactly all the laws, but basically
how a lot of them are just fluff,

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big foster farms. How to get
them? Yeah, bro, probably

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Yeah. They might have got him
with the what is the heart attack darting

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something? It didn't even say from
anything. I saw what kind of cancer

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he had, just just cancer and
apparently it wasn't a short term thing.

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It's been going yeah wow, Yeah, I forgot where I first read about

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alcoholism stuff, because yeah, I
mean, it's definitely not from eating McDonald's

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just for one month. He had
a me too moment too. I think

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that was actually tied up with the
alcoholism. Hanging out with Subway or something.

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All the fast food guys are just
run around touching people. No,

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it was come something inappropriate with a
personal assistant. The Jared from Subway.

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When I watched the documentary on his
downfall is so bad. It was crazy.

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Dude's talking to like sixteen year old
girls in public. That's nuts.

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Yeah, that's really and subway's trash
on top of it. That's just it's

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yeah, it's not real food.
Wait though, Yeah, he's not even

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fighting a good fight. It's not
he's dying on a bad who They're not

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even a five dollars foot long no
more? Which is it? Probably ten

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bucks? Oh it's gotta be.
There's no way there's a five dollars foot

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I mean they're five they're foot long
cookies six bucks? I think what Yeah,

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I think it's for four bucks six
bucks. I don't know. I

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had a series of bad experiences with
just eating subway, which actually, like

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the bad experience is eating subway period. But yeah, there's nothing good about

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it. Yeah, that's literally probably
my last resort meal. Yeah, like

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even they make like Deli turkey bad
somehow, you know, they figureut how

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to make everything bad. Yeah,
lettuce is fucking orange, Yeah, all

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the red, all the vegetables.
Yeah. The bread tastes like cigarette smoke.

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Yeah. Yeah, the bread is
bad. And I don't even mind

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like stale bread. I'm pretty forgiving, but their bread is bad. The

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veggies look like they're painted. Yeah
they're bad, am I right, Yeah,

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they're sort of bright colors. I
should always get the karaokey Yeah that

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used to be. I go to
no veggies on this the chick can karaokee

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I go to, or like a
meatball man, I like a good sandwich

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chicken. I would, I would. Yeah, I'll throw some bets that

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my chicken. Nuggies and McDonald's are
more legit. Probably their ships straight rubber,

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but yeah, they're charaokey. Is
a sweet onion or something. I

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think it's sweet that that had to
go and I did eat it growing up,

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but it was affordable, drenched and
sauce. Yeah that's so you're gonna

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win, right, Yeah, but
it's pretty bad, dude. Like every

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other sandwich chain beats it. Shit, probably every fast food place beats it.

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Yeah, Like I can't think of
a spot. People talk a lot

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of shit about what a burger,
McDonald's or whatever, but I'm definitely going

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there before so Chick fil A for
sure. My new ship's canes. Holy

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cow, bro, you don't like
it? Do you think I don't like

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the chicken? Really? I think
the chickens too bland? But that's why

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they got that fancy sauce. Yeah, but how many calories in that sauce?

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Look, man, trying to get
swollen. I'm on a bulk.

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It went from cutting the bulking.
It's on a meal by meal basis.

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Yeah, yeah, that's by what
I drive by. I think Cane's chicken

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is slightly but like a lot of
them are too, right, Like that's

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why Chick fil a is known for
like having a billion sauces. It's because

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like they're chicken. You know,
Like if you're gonna make fried chicken by

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itself tastes crazy, it probably gotta
be boning and it's gonna be stripping in

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grease. Now, the last time
I had I haven't had a sense was

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it with me? No, it
was you threw up then too. I

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get carsick. It's just my thing
that And I was like I was editing

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a video on the back I was
eating slamming and then car sick. So

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I just got fucked up. But
it just tasted like it was gonna go

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bad possible, And I haven't had
a sense. Some I read before we

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get into the real meat of the
news is uh no pun intended with meat.

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But I think Chick fil A's franchise
is free. What. Yeah,

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they're not crazy. So they're business
models based on you have to have be

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like a certain level of manager at
Chick fil A for a certain amount of

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years before you even throw into the
rat Yeah, and then even when you

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set it up, they set it. I think they pay for everything and

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then you're just scraping the top obviously, so they're taking home, you know,

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seventy to ninety percent of uh revenue. But like that's a pretty care

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free business made. I kind of
like that where you it's literal sweat equity.

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You know you're getting paid, but
you gotta you gotta go fry some

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chicken. Then you gotta work a
cash register. Then you gotta be assistant

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manager. Then you gotta be a
real manager, and I think maybe even

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a regional manager. I don't know
what. But then you got to put

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in your time where you're getting paid, at least historically you got paid well.

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Now you know, wages are all
fucked up, but back in the

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day, them and in and out
paid well beyond what other fast food restaurants

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did. Uh. And then yeah, you get fucking gifted a store.

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Yeah, I think it's super cool. It's a it's a literal game.

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Yeah, it's a simulator. Yes, it's RPG. That's RPG. Hey,

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you just got to get to the
level sixteen and then you turn the

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charmander. I always thought that their
chicken tasted fake, you know really,

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Yeah, I guess I just compared
it to a chicken nuggy, and so

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Canes and Chick fil A tastes much
more real than them or Subway. Right,

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you you buy a Subway chicken,
and then you bought a Chick fil

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A, and you're like, God, now this chicken is basically alive.

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It's so fresh. You know.
That's actually kind of like I prefer chicken

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breast over any other part of the
chicken. I'm a white meat guy in

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general. But part of it is
because there's not like veins and tendas and

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shit running through there through the breast, whereas it's it's all a little too

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gory for me. Vein king,
you know, Canes is not so much,

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but but drumsticks and like thighs,
yeah, they're all like I think

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canes is white meat. I think
so. I think it's a chicken dinder

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line. I don't know, dude, I think it's pretty good. Canes

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really gets me going. I haven't
had it. I almost did bak last

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night, bended up going to UH
Burgers and Brew. Yeah, both solid.

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What's that one place we got at
your mom's house, Vaughn vaughnsas Banks.

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There's one out by Gym too,
try Vaughans. Where's I think it's

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more towards Sex State. But uh, there's like three of them and it's

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like a Korean fried chicken spot.
Oh uh. The one is not falseome

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that. I don't know because I've
only been to the one in uh Carmichael.

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But the one we went to has
grilled too, and so it makes

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it kind of healthy. The other
ones only at fried, so I don't

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go that often, but they're pretty
damn good. Vio In, Yeah,

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just vio In. It's a mini
chain. I think it's kind of by

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your ayas. I might be wrong, but I think it's kind of by

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your eyes across the street. Yeah, it is by yours. It's across

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the street from from your eyas.
Yeah, and that one looks a little

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more sports barr the one, the
one I've been to is just like a

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little shack, but their chickens pretty
good. Chickens pretty good. Yeah,

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there used to be a pizza place
in that in that spot that had it

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had beer taps, that had like
a you had like a fob. Oh

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yeah those cool. They have one
in the bank. Oh yeah, yeah,

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the bottom. So they took an
old bank here in Sacramundo and try

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to make like an open food court
and kind of failed to be honest,

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compared to other ones I've been to, Like especially in Vegas, you go

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to like casinos basically have food courts, right, and some are just crushing

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it now with like unique ideas,
unique art and unique restaurants. So they're

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trying to do that. And then
the basement where the vault is, they

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turned into yeah kind of like a
it's like a Chuck e cheese style,

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but it's all beer tabs. So
you serve yourself based on this little point

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card you have, uh, And
the concept's really cool and it looks cool

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when you're down there. You've been
there so abouts. No, I've been

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inside the vault, not inside the
vault, but inside the bank. Yeah,

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the bottom of it get like yeah
cool. Yeah, the bottom floors

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literally the vault and they have it
like half open and a bunch of them

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are like that, it's a cool
idea. It is closed right now.

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I think they're remodeling it again again. Yeah, well because it they closed

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unduring COVID and then they reopened another
like because they never fixed it so you

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could walk in the front door.
Yeah, and then like again on the

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inside, it just felt it literally
felt more like a farmer's market pop up

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of restaurants rather than like a Yeah, especially with our food culture and it's

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right next to our basketball stadium,
it kind of made no sense that they

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didn't do it well. I don't
know. I don't know how you messed

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that up. It seems basic.
Chicken's taken over though. Yeah. I

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just don't eat that much beef anymore. It's not that I don't like it.

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I just don't eat that much.
I've been eating beef at home a

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ton because lean ground beef's affordable issue
I can find it, and then when

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I eat out, I've been craving
chicken. Really. Yeah. I remember

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a chicken conn of shore, probably
the best YouTube channel I've ever watched in

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my life, and I think it's
a UK thing like chicken and fries obviously

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kind of thing, and they were
just shops everywhere. It seems like that's

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popular here now, you know what
I mean, Like Cane's is making a

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big deal, chick fl has been
a big deal, and then there's a

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million mom and pop chickens spots.
There's uh, Dave's, Houston's Bog but

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yeah, those are like local local, but there's like a bunch of like

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medium level chains too. I think
it's called Dave's. And then uh,

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isn't that like Drake's favorite? I
think so? Yeah, And then like

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Shack as his own company. I
forgot, it's called BIG's Chicken or something.

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It's pretty good. It's called something
like that. It's something like that

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Big Chicken. I think it's called
Big Chick. I think it's called Big

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Chick. And it's Shack's chain.
Like they're everywhere, and it made me

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think like, oh, we must
have got that UK reference, like because

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it seems like it's their normal shop
where our ship used to be. Like

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burgers, Yeah, but we kind
of went away from that. Yeah,

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I mean they're still happening, right, They're still SMA different smash burgers popping

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up everywhere, but yeah, smash
burgers are the are the d thing right

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now. Which is funny because like, isn't squeeze in that we have here

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in town. Isn't that a smash
burger? Yeah, with a giant cheddar

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skirt. I don't even know if
those are around anymore. The one,

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I think so the original closed for
sure. It went downtown. Yeah,

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that one closed. It's now like
a fancy Wiener spot. There's one of

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them. Oh, I have a
anyway, I think by Florin. Oh

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maybe the original just moved up.
Probably. Yeah, have you been.

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I've been there once. Yeah,
I saw that ever ate anything there.

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Oh, they're solid. Yeah.
I had them as a kid because it

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was literally like a room smaller than
this podcast studio, Like it was tiny,

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and my dad used to take me
when we're out there. It's good.

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I had Lamb last night. I'm
solid too, the Lamberger at Burgers.

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Yeah, it's quite good. Yeah, Burgers, it's quite good.

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Yeah, it's my favorite too.
I went there with Westside Versus the World

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director Michael Fahey. I would love
to have had him on the show,

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but he was here in town with
family stuff, and and you know,

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like as much as I enjoy having
people on the show, if I have

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time to just hang with them or
time to podcast with him. I'm going

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to hang with them, Yeah,
secramound. A lot of people don't just

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come to hang anyways. Yeah know, they would normally have events or weddings

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or brother friend Kelly Lenhans and she's
here for a graduation. So often people

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are in and out. Yeah,
I can't blame them. Not quite the

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destination yet. No, No,
And we don't like pay people to come

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on the show like some people do. So anyway, what was I gonna

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say? Oh, so, uh, two things. One of them has

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happened more recently than the other.
So I'm gonna start there. This big

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NC two a settlement that is basically
opening the door for university, particularly like

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football programs, to pay athletes directly. I think it's going on. I

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think it's a this is this is
brand new. This is like in the

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last day. What I'm saying is
that's been going on for thirty years.

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Well you got in trouble and then
now I think it's going on and everyone

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knows and just kind of you know, does like the scary movie Open Fingers,

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you know, yeah, like I'm
yeah, no, I'm pretty damn

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sure. I mean, Sam Newton
got in trouble for it, but there's

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just no way he's won the only
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the NIL legality wise of taxes and
stuff, it's so much easier to hide,

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right because you could say the school. I think the school can pay

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you for anything and give you anything
besides playing your sport. Right, So

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if I grab Sebas to be my
lead quarterback at USC, like, hey

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man, I can give you a
meal, tickets, right, you get

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free calf and actually we can pay
you five million dollars for a sticker of

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your face. Yeah, right,
So I'm not paying them for football or

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I'm putting him in the posters.
So I think you know it's it's all

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but already happening. So two point
eight billion dollars settlement, approved by the

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NC two A and the nation's five
largest Conferences Plan, which needs still needs

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approval from plaintiffs and a federal judge, calls for paying damages to thousands of

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former and current athletes who say that
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from earning endorsement money, so it
is more. Yeah. NIL also also

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calls for setting up a first of
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which will impact hundreds of schools across
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of twenty twenty five. I wonder
if that has anything to do with the

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very large conference shifts too. I
may like the Pac twelve just like disintegrated.

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Yeah football, they're like two teams
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I don't even know. I might
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not even be a league. Under
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in damages will be paid over ten
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to twenty sixteen. Interesting original plaintiffs
include former Arizona State summer grant house and

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for and current TCU basketball player suit
on a price interesting even just the trade

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portal being open is so weird,
like ultra portal. Yeah yeah, Like

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it happened obviously here COVID, but
they just never shut it down. So

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it's literally turned into a pro league. Like, there's a really good point

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guard and in n C two a
women's basketball and she's been on like three

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teams in three years. I'm saying, what the fuck's going on? Yeah,

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it's so weird. Gotta be some
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to win a championship before you run
out of eligibility or no, no,

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because she went down. I mean
she was at LSU. She might even

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just won one who won this year
unless she was definitely in the conversation,

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but then she just moved to TCU. Yeah. I think she was on

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our Olympic three on three team,
okay, which is weird too. I

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don't know. I don't know what's
happening with sports three on three in the

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Olympics. Yeah, yeah, I
mean ice cubes pushing it big here,

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which is cool, but I don't
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It's weird to me. And they're
getting rid of fucking Greco wrestling.

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Yeah, I like the most Olympic
thing ever. Yeah, it's weird.

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It's Greco wrestle ruminning. Yeah.
So we got skateboarding and fucking three on

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three. Yeah, well that the
skateboarding thing is weird to me too,

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because like the X gamers, doesn't
have the prominence that it doesn't even still

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go on. I think it goes
on, but yeah, it's not as

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cool. Skating does seem like a
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social media. Oh maybe so,
Like obviously, like the original X Games

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was in my era and it was
earth shattering. Yeah, you know,

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it was in the mid nineties when
alternative rock, the fashion was all based

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on it, like it really had
its own Like the culture was so giant.

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You're listening to fucking Smashing Pumpkins and
everybody had a skateboard, and then

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Tony Hawk blew it up to the
next level, similar to maybe basketball in

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the eighties and nineties with Jordan.
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and yeah, some of these guys
have huge followings. Like there's a kid

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from Davis Niga like that dude's got
millions of followers and the Nike contract and

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all that. Like the money is
still going on for sure, but culturally

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it just seems like no one gets
a shit. It's very more niched out.

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deal. I'm actually I'm listening to
a podcast right now. It was a

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you know, true crime, potential
wrongful conviction case in the town that I

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grew up in, not while I
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definitely still there, you know,
a reasonable amount because I still had my

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mother in law still live down there. My sister and nephew still live there

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too now, but my mother doesn't
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anymore. But it was a girl
who was part of a skater group who

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got killed. She was like eighteen
or something, seventeen eighteen, murdered and

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her body was found in an under
construction home depot. Oh shit, yeah,

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yeah, and like and like all
the people around her were part of

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like skater gang. Like interesting that
just I mean, just sounds funny,

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said a skater gang. Yeah,
me and my skater gang. It sounds

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very small towny. Yeah, and
to take downtown out. Yeah. Anyway,

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I was that I came up with

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or was exposed to yesterday is that
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constitution, the IPF constitution that keeps

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people from competing in other federations.
I actually will just read it right now.

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Any athlete, coach, referee,
or official that participates in any competition

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or event which is organized by a
sporting body, and those are capitalized federation

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or organization that has not received recognition
from the World Anti Doping Agency and is

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thus non compliant with the Code and
international standards, shall be automatically rendered ineligible

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and shall not be permitted to take
part in an authorized national or international powerlifting

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or bench press event for a period
of twelve months from the date of the

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last compliant non compliant event. Yeah. Basically, if you compete in IPF

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four affiliates, you can't compete in
any other powerlifting fed or any sport actually,

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which people don't talk about. It's
obviously just because if you're a powerlifting

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you're probably not also very good at
something else, potentially not that doesn't have

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direct approval of the WATA. The
whole split between the USAPL and IPF begin

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with is that actually the USAPL supposedly
wanted to test more strictly or stringently than

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what WATA forced. Instead of just
at national events, they want to they

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test it local. Yeah, which
is just weird that the IPF would break

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on that, Like if I don't
know, because obviously then there's funding and

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around. I think part of it
was the USAPL then wanted the IPF to

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make other brand inches test at that
level. So I do understand the money

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portion, but whatever it sounds just
like a cranky breakup. So they broke

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up and power Left America emerges,
and yeah, now you're screwed. And

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I think, I don't know,
like monopoly laws per se, but like

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I don't think it's that uncommon for
you to have. The issues is no

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one's getting paid, right, because
if you're getting paid and you have a

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contract more something like the UFC,
you get signed for three, six,

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whatever amount of fights and you get
X amount of dollars per fight, and

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you lock someone in for that.
But the IPF, the USAPL all of

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them don't really think about their lifters. They're just thinking about their own shit.

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It feels like, you know,
they're lead. They're worried about this

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boat floating, but not worried about, you know, the people running the

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boat. Because even like college basketball, like you're signing contracts with the school

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that you're not going to go do
crazy shit. You know, like all

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my and even we didn't sign a
contract. But even when I play college

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basketball, like they're talking to you
a man, like you ain't going snowboarding.

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You're not allowed to be on a
jet ski. You know, you're

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not allowed to go on a boat, Like, don't do dumb shit during

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the season, but that's all injury
stuff and that. Sure, sure,

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but I'm not allowed to go play
for another team either. Yeah, you

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know, that's just like a given. Yeah. So it's the same kind

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of stuff the WNBA, and I
don't know if it's where it is in

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the rule book, but multiple w
NBA players play in other leagues in the

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offseason, Brittany Grinder obviously being the
most famous one because you got arrested while

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competing in Russia. The NBA doesn't
do it, probably because they don't need

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the money. But are they allowed
to do it. I don't know.

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I don't know what the exact like
player handbook looks like. The other issue

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with the whole thing is every sport
and I've said this forever in powerlifting,

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I've talked about it in content creation, I've talked about it in the UFC,

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and no one's done. It is
a players union, and I'm not

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a big union guy per se,
but like they're literally just a bunch of

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ants getting crushed by these leagues.
Yeah, so you got to come together

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somehow. But the UFC is the
same way, Like you're not allowed to,

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like you can't have a three fight
contract with the UFC and then just

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go decide to do boxing and shit, Francis and Gano being the most famous

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where that happened, and the UFC
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normal. Yeah, that's where I'm

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like torn on it, Like I
think that it's dumb because there's no money,

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yeah, right, And I think
it's dumb because they are still drug

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tested and obviously powerlifting in particular is
known for having steroids. So that's why

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it's never going to be in the
Olympics and why everything's so wrapped around the

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axle about whatever the IPF wants,
because I mean that's their goal, is

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international competition on the Olympic stage,
And like number one, it's boring and

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know who cares? And number two, the taint of steroids is going to

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be the regardless of the testing because
other sports have tested and obviously shit happened.

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Yeah, yeah, I don't know, like to Icarus, you know.

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Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Because it's making the World Games

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this year for the first time ever
raw powerleat yeah, which is exciting our

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next year, I guess technically,
which is basically the Olympics, right,

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it's like the World Cup of the
Olympic kind of things like that every other

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two years, which is cool.
Yeah, I don't know because there's tons

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Yeah, like you said, there's
steroids everywhere, So I don't know if

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that's like the director reason blocking us
from the Olympics. And I don't know

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viewerships either, right, Like,
think about how many sports are in there

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that no one TV doesn't even cover. Don't even of a flying fuck because

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it's so boring. Look to find
Olympic weightlifting in the Olympics, you have

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to go to like NBC fifteen dot
com. You know, you can't find

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it on TV either. So I
don't really know the path or what the

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issues are there. I know,
like population of competitors and memberships and shit

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like that play a role. How
many countries have so many members to get

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you to even qualify there? So
I think I was talking a long time

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ago LS McLain and he's involved in
the cheerleading world. He's a coach at

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I think University of Texas and other
programs, and they were trying to get

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cheerleading in there, and I don't
even got there by now we should google

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it and he was explaining how it
kind of gets there, like you need

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a certain amount of nations to have
a certain amount of participants in a certain

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amount of competitiveness, and then you
go to the board or whatever. The

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fuck. I don't know. I
don't know what track stars do in there

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are other three years. Are they
only allowed to run under certified US whatever

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ship? Yeah, that's probably run. I don't know, but I mean,

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there's this is this is something that
i've you know, I saw it

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on Facebook somebody had posted it,
and then I went to Reddit and read

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some more about it. And one
of the commenters on Reddit is from another

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country. They don't say which one, but they said that like routinely,

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people who are in tested sports in
that country go and play other sports that

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are not tested and then come back
to these water compliant sports and they're nobody

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bats an eye. Yeah, but
with this situation, and you know,

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it's it's hard to because this is
a weird transitional time for because there's just

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not that many Powerlifting America meets period, so if you want to compete,

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you almost have to compete in USAPL. So this exact reference is a little

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different to me because it's a student
who's on scholarship at Midland University. That's

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the story in the thing, but
that's not what the post. Doesn't refer

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to that at all. I don't
know what post you're talking about because I

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listened to the athletes. It's this
guy. Yeah, I listened to that.

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did, yeah, yeah, and

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so his Midland University yeah cash yeah
ko yeah, as a Swedish lifter previously

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previously an IPF competitor at the Worlds, but now he's a scholarship athlete at

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Midland University and Midland University I believe
or all n C two A universities that

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involve powerlifting are contracted to the us
SPL. So that's where the wrinkle gets

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more interesting to me. So for
him, life changing education potentially free or

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at least helped, and he has
to compete in the USAPL by his university

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rules, which again is like a
life changing choice. This isn't like extracurricular

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this isn't whatever. Like I said, powerlifting made it different than the NBA

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and UFC because there's no money.
But now we have real money going on,

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right because we're dealing with the NC
two A. So this guy has

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to compete in the usapl for that, which then automatically bans him from competing

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in for his nation. Which where
when when you one hundred percent choose it

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and it's one hundred percent of hobby. Yeah, man, Like, it's

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hard to regulate all the shit that
don't matter, right, But the more

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money that gets important, the more
people's lives actually change. And then now

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you're going to basically the IPS is
going against the entire NC two A.

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And I think maybe that's where these
laws get real fucking weird. And again,

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I've never read the exact law of
monopolies. I don't understand all that

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fully because I'm sure there's a million
little nuances and footnotes that get weird.

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But he simultaneously sounds like suing the
USA and taking legal action in Europe as

405
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:23.200
well. Yeah, I think that's
what the case is. If they drug

406
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:27.799
test anyway, why does it matter? Why does it matter because you can

407
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:30.920
just if you say, if you
know that somebody is competing in another federation,

408
00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:33.400
you just fucking drug test them.
I don't get it. I don't

409
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:40.759
understand why, like you have a
compliance mechanism that isn't non competitive. Yeah,

410
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:45.160
I guess which is weird already because
their rules are when you're in the

411
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.319
system, right, So say you
come out of nowhere, or you just

412
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:53.240
train your tits off, or you
compete at bump fuck nowhere fed and then

413
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:59.880
you just hop into one Powerleft in
America or IPF affiliate. You'll probably get

414
00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:03.400
to, right because it's it's it's
supposedly a random ten percent or whatever the

415
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:06.599
fuck. But say you're tested,
even but you just spent five years non

416
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:08.640
tested or who knows what. Yeah, but now you're in their system,

417
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:12.880
so you only get tested for the
next potential on your own. I think

418
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:18.799
only when you go to worlds,
well nationals, it's nationals, they'll go

419
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:21.680
to your house. Uh, I
don't know, No, I think that's

420
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:23.799
when you're in worlds. Okay,
right, so now you're in the system

421
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.279
because the USAPL goes to your house
kind of regardless. Yeah, and it's

422
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:30.880
like they have a key or something. Yeah, so much your key.

423
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:36.359
So like that does already make it
weird. But if and again, the

424
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.880
resources and money make a big difference. But yeah, say you hypothetically just

425
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:45.440
sign up for Parlift America IPF,
then anyone should have yeah, test every

426
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.759
three months or whatever the shit,
but they don't because of money and resources.

427
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:51.559
I get it, but I agree, I mean, they have a

428
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:56.640
system for it. Once you're at
worlds. Icarus proves and many things have

429
00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:02.000
proved that none of this really even
matters exactly exactly, So I don't know,

430
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:04.880
and I do understand that they want
exact water protocols and if the USAPL

431
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:08.160
isn't stamped by WADA, you know, similar things you see in CrossFit,

432
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:11.920
which I've gotten flamed for personally over
time, talking shit, but like they

433
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:18.039
do like internal testing, same with
the UFC until like twenty sixteen, they

434
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:22.720
tested who they wanted, how they
wanted, and so of course you're not

435
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.160
going to bust your stars and USAPL
may be similar to that. You don't

436
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:30.359
know right until it's stamped by this
WATA, which again wat has proven to

437
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.119
be faulty as well. It doesn't
get complicated. But the NC two A

438
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.200
battle is where this gets real hairy, right, because they got money,

439
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.839
they got power, they're insanely legitimate, right, and now this poor kid

440
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.079
is forced to choose even though he
doesn't look like a kid a full looks

441
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:49.279
fucking jacked and beefy. But so
it does suck. It does suck,

442
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:52.880
and hopefully and I read all the
comments on his Instagram post. You know,

443
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:56.519
got a lot of shares, a
lot of likes, and every big

444
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.960
name in powerlifting is under his post
saying that they back them and they're gonna

445
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:06.839
hopefully that they got the support of
it. The coaching and refereeing ones absolutely

446
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:10.839
stupid, right, Like that makes
zero Only so many people who are involved

447
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:14.680
in powerlisting anywhere one what are you
gonna you're a referee that's just handed out

448
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:18.039
syringes? Like when has that ever
been the case? And then there are

449
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.000
plenty of coaches that hand up syringes, but like that's gonna be the case

450
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:23.559
then regardless, you know what I
mean, it's still the athlete's responsibility.

451
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:27.720
So the athlete rule does make sense
to me. The referee coaching rule makes

452
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:33.480
absolutely zero sense to begin with,
and I do, yeah, I wonder

453
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.480
what you know, track and field
does. I wonder what I'm trying to

454
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.079
think other sports that are even like
US Olympic weightlifting. I think Olympic weightlifting

455
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:44.559
obviously had the same rule, but
there's not even another big federation, so

456
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:48.519
it's not even tempting. There was
one John North started where I think it

457
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.559
was untested, and so some weightlifters
would go there. But I don't know,

458
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.799
man, I don't know. And
then what's this loss? Are gonna

459
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:57.920
loss? It's gonna They're just gonna
stretch it out. It's gonna take ten

460
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:02.680
years. Yeah, I mean,
it's not going to solve his immediate problem.

461
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:06.039
Yeah, which props to him for
fighting, you know, props to

462
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:07.880
them for stepping up. It's stress. It's it's not you know, I

463
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.400
know they do. He's in fundraising. I don't know who's going to get

464
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:15.400
behind him with with considerable amount of
money that it's going to take to to

465
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:19.200
to make this play out. Yeah. Yeah, I think a lot of

466
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.160
powerlifters will. And who knows if
someone really believes in and got some extra

467
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:22.759
change to chuck it out. I
mean, if I'm if I got one

468
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:28.200
hundred mil, I'm throwing them a
mill. Well. The other twist is

469
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:36.960
that this exact same type of clause
was in the International Skaters Union con constitution

470
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:42.319
or whatever rules bylaws, and they
lost that battle. Somebody sued them and

471
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.960
they lost that battle. Like ice
skating, yeah, no, speed skating.

472
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:50.640
Interesting, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, and who

473
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:52.559
knows, Like I think, I
don't know, man, I don't know

474
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:54.640
what the answer is. I mean, the answer is obviously just more money

475
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:59.000
and resources, right, because if
the IPF had legitimate resources of money,

476
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:02.200
they could test whoever whenever and they'd
set in that protocol and we'd be fine.

477
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:07.160
But they obviously can't or won't because
like you said, I mean,

478
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:13.200
yeah, maybe you gotta like just
show you've been tested within the last whatever,

479
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:16.920
Like can he go get his own
test from a qualified place or something,

480
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:20.440
you know what I mean, Like
give the guy an out. Yeah,

481
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:22.119
they're not. They're they're really like
if you can't afford it or you

482
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.359
can't do it, like at least
giving it out. Like if you do

483
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:29.720
x y Z's literally a rock and
a hard place. I have no idea,

484
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.279
like where, you know, where
is he going to get justice?

485
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:37.160
Because this is an unjust situation.
Yeah, yeah, and again it is

486
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:43.559
all hobby besides someone who's flew across
the Atlantic to get an education. Yeah,

487
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:45.440
you know, And so that's why
I do back him more than just

488
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:50.640
the regular stuff because then the end
of the day, like for the regular

489
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:53.119
powerlifting hobbyists, let's just choose a
fed who cares, you know, like,

490
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:55.759
if you if you really like thatf
then go to Powerlift America. If

491
00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:58.720
you really don't, don't care,
go to the USAPL. It's not a

492
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:02.480
big deal. But someone like that
who's basically forced to compete in the USAPL,

493
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:07.320
although he's at the world level,
he's like the rare case where I

494
00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:12.599
do feel he's actually being fucked over. Yeah. Like I said, I

495
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.039
don't think that there's a you know, there's a is there a fairness?

496
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:20.480
I don't that can be mated out
here? I don't know. Yeah,

497
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:25.119
probably not with how these companies tend
to run each other and tend to vibe

498
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:36.599
and their finances and I don't want
to say tyranny, but historically not for

499
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:42.239
the lifter type management. Uh yeah, yeah. And everyone knows it.

500
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:46.840
Everyone knows IPFS, you know,
the only legitimate world competition. So a

501
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:51.840
lot of people go there purely based
on that, not because it's awesome,

502
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.199
not because it treats people well,
not because of anything. The only one

503
00:34:54.239 --> 00:35:00.719
I've heard that people the lifters themselves
are truly back into the Sheffield Oh yeah,

504
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:04.239
you know, they're the only that's
the only comp I mean, obviously

505
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.880
local competitions. Lifters have great experiences
with et cetera, et cetera. But

506
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.360
in terms of like an event,
that's the only one I hear people like

507
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:17.079
actually are for the lifter. Yeah, And I don't know, it seems

508
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:22.079
like they just to me. Still, the craziest thing is that this us

509
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.719
A p L split was over the
frequency of drug testing. Yeah yeah,

510
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:30.119
drug testing. Yeah. Feeling is
so ridiculous to me, Like, and

511
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:37.559
you know, with with some federations
falling apart over pedophilia, yeah, APF

512
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:46.800
and you know, other misdeeds us
A, USPA, and who knows how

513
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:53.320
many other ones, because there's so
many federations that fall apart over disagreements about

514
00:35:53.719 --> 00:36:02.440
about bad things that people who are
members did. Two to have this kind

515
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:07.559
of schism happen over drug testing just
doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah.

516
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:14.039
Yeah, it's not really pushing anything
forward either way. No, it's

517
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:15.880
just ego. I don't know if
it's ego, Yeah, I don't know

518
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:19.800
who. I don't know who even
makes these decisions. I don't know.

519
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.760
That's a good question. That's part
of it, right, Like even even

520
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.480
the NBA again, and obviously they're
a much bigger organization different, but like

521
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:31.400
Howard Stern, like whoever's in charge
is doing interviews all the time, telling

522
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:35.119
you what's going on. They're doing
live, you know, like when's the

523
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:38.239
last time Whoever's making calls and one
of these powerlifting things hopped on Masonomics or

524
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:40.960
hopped on whatever. Yeah, three
White, I don't care where you hop

525
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:44.519
on. When's the last time they
went out there and chatting was just transparent

526
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:47.639
about why and what they're doing.
I don't know that that's happened, Pat,

527
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.280
I'm not They do it in fucking
video games. The crazy Russian video

528
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:57.239
game Kyle and I used to play
called Tarkov. The owner would hop on

529
00:36:57.280 --> 00:36:59.880
a podcast here and there and tell
you, like, just be transparent.

530
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:02.639
Huh you know what I mean?
Like, how is that not just an

531
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:07.320
easy thing to do? Every federation, Roger Goodell in the NFL does press

532
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.800
conferences all the time, like it's
so normal. So you're saying that there's

533
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:16.159
an inherent lack of transparency around power
federations. It feels like it, man.

534
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:20.239
I don't disagree with you. Yeah, And maybe that's because I'm not

535
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:22.480
listening or watching the right stuff,
because again, I'm in it, but

536
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:24.800
I'm not in it like some of
y'all are, but like it shouldn't be

537
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.199
that crazy, because same with the
NBA. I don't watch it like I

538
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.239
used to, and I still see
the interviews and I still see the players

539
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.400
union votes and he used to.
It just pops up, you know.

540
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.239
And again I know, power of
the things smaller and I'm not, you

541
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.039
know, highly competitive or anything,
but like we run meets, I follow

542
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:44.559
all the right people on Instagram on
Twitter, like I see the shit,

543
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:46.360
but it just doesn't pop up,
so to me, it's not happening,

544
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:50.840
and if it is, it's yeah
being hidden. And as as people who

545
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:57.280
run beats or host beats in our
facility or whatever, we're bound by the

546
00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:00.880
market, right, yeah, like
in a way, we create our own

547
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:06.239
for sure, and we can promo
stuff the best we can, but so

548
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:09.679
much. Yeah, if a fed
disappears or isn't cool or is doing some

549
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:13.639
shady shit, yeah, it affects
what we do. And it's not like

550
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.880
they're communicating with us, not that
we're that special, but like you know,

551
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:21.960
CrossFit again probably communicates with their affiliates
better than this, at least an

552
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:23.360
email, newsletter or some shit,
you know. And again, maybe I'm

553
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:27.719
looking at the wrong places or I'm
not signed up, but you just feel

554
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.280
like there would be something because again, there'd be no power that thing without

555
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:32.679
meats with local meets. You need
the local meets for this IPF shit,

556
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:37.320
right, you know, So like
where's even the smallest ounce of support for

557
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.280
that. It doesn't have to be
financial, but like something, there's nothing,

558
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:46.280
yeah, just just a free flow
of information and I mean goals transparrency.

559
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:52.039
It just kind of feels like with
the bigger federations that maybe all the

560
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:55.960
federations that the only communication comes on
stone tablets, you know, yeah,

561
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.440
or you just have to know the
guy and the guy has to like you.

562
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:01.320
Yeah, you know, because we've
dealt with many meat directors and many

563
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:06.280
lifters and they're like, oh,
yeah, I know the head of North

564
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:09.440
Dakota's USAPL and I chat with him
and he obviously talks to somebody up there,

565
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:14.800
but the fuck. Yeah, Yeah, it shouldn't be that weird.

566
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:16.360
It just shouldn't be that weird.
And I've run, you know, tons

567
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:21.199
of different leagues, different We've done
different meats. I've worked with other sports.

568
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:23.639
I know people in the den C
two A, I know people at

569
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:27.000
the pro level, like no one
kind of flows like this, but for

570
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.559
some reason. Yeah, they're very
even strong man, it seems to be

571
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.599
more locked in those Those motherfuckers compete
wherever they want. Obviously it's untested,

572
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:38.800
but still like there's conflict there,
Like the IP is truly not doing it

573
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:43.360
because of the testing, right,
I think that's the bigger point, Like

574
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:46.559
they're truly the rules not made because
of testing. It's a scarcity mindset to

575
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:51.119
keep lifters away. Yeah, that's
clearly why it's there. Yeah, because

576
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:54.280
otherwise the referees have You could have
the most jack steroid to ref he could

577
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:58.159
be the best ref in the world. Like who gs a fuck? Right,

578
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:02.039
right, there's no competitive advantage some
of those NFL reference Yeah yeah right,

579
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:06.760
but even in powerlifting, like that
makes zero sense. Someone's like job

580
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:09.079
to recognize a depth has nothing to
do with the steroid intake, whether it's

581
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:13.920
a clean support or not. Yeah, and I get the whole Olympic thing,

582
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.320
but there's just that's just a dumb
argument. Rule fourteen or whatever the

583
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:21.000
fuck is literally made to keep lifters
away. Yeah, it's just it is

584
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.000
inded. It's a market. Yeah, it's a market manipulation, right,

585
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:28.480
which is maybe why this lawsuit,
which is an anti trust thing can be

586
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.280
you know, yeah, it's just
lame. It's just lame. So we'll

587
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:35.199
see. I don't know. That's
all I got on that. Yeah,

588
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.400
But I do think Powerlift America is
doing cool things again. They're doing that

589
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.320
UFC thing, which I think is
one of the coolest things I've heard over

590
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:45.760
seen. So I'm gonna try to
go see that regionals and states are growing

591
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:47.519
because that's the only way to qualify
for NATS now, yeah, which is

592
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:52.079
which is a little tap in for
the USA pl you know, so both

593
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.039
sides are doing okay things, don't
I don't know. I don't know.

594
00:40:55.960 --> 00:41:01.320
It's one of those situations to work
where competition kind of cuts both ways.

595
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:08.679
Because if if indeed, you know, competing with another federation makes things better

596
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:12.639
for everyone, then yeah, it's
all for it, free market whatever,

597
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:19.840
right, But if it just creates
confusion right in their market and and you

598
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:24.280
know, abundances of meats of one
federation is in someplace and just scarcity in

599
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:29.199
others, like, that's not good
for the sport, right, yeah,

600
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:32.400
the whole That's how powerlifting used to
be. Federations were kind of regional,

601
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:36.960
yeah, right, like so like
you're, oh you live in the Northwest.

602
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:38.519
Oh, you probably compete in like
the APA or the APF. You

603
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:42.679
live in the South, you obviously
compete in the SPF. You compete in

604
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.559
the Midwest or the West, you're
competing in the USPF. Like things were

605
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:49.400
kind of split up based on the
resources they had. But we got the

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fucking Internet now and we got resources
everywhere, you know, so we have

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consolidated a little bit. The untested
sides majority WRPF, the tested sides now

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of fifty to fifty. Maybe powerlift
in America USAPL and that might be slightly

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regional to start, you know,
like there's one meet in all of California

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which is a large hub of powerlifting
now although it used to not be,

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but now powerlifting is very big,
especially the tested world. So we have

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taken steps forward over the last twenty
years, but some of it still just

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seems so illogical. Agree, that's
it, folks. New episodes Wednesday Friday.

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