Is responding to negative social media comments worth it?

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My mic isn't working. Yeah,
it's your headphones. Your headphones, probably

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because I hear you great. Oh
sorry we're yelling in the mic. You

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can't hear me yelling it Mike.
You guys, Oh you're not plugged in.

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That's I How do you send now? Beautiful? Did he more of

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our late our late night? Yeah? Maybe underground podcast? Okay, so

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they stayed here for like two hours, sebast know how to leave here a

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lot of the times, just to
record it. Yeah. I was like,

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if you're gonna sit there, just
fucking yeah, just record it.

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Yeah, you should know how.
No. Right, So back in the

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day, I want to say,
early two thousands, when the Internet was

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just becoming kind of a thing and
I was three year old. Yeah,

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so were you born ninety eight that
it was one of those you're eighty eight?

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Yeah that's crazy. Um yeah,
one of my kids is ninety six

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or eighty six and the other one
is ninety anyway. Um, ESPN was

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kind of early to internet radio,
so you could go to ESPN's website and

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and happen. Yeah, and it
was kind of before ABC bought them.

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Who's the Morning Guy? I actually
like him currently? No, like,

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yeah, maybe, but during that
era too on the radio, not Colin

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Cowherd. No, it looks like
Iron Man, very distinctive voice, Downey

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Jr. I love him. I'm
not sure. Once I said an Emuel,

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now go ahead anyway, I bet
you was this guy anyway, though

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they obviously obviously the studio was live
even when they weren't in casting the radio

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shows. Hyeah, yeah, And
so they they called it ESPN Radio Underground

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and you can listen to it,
and you could listen to it, and

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they got in so much trouble because
people would forget that the mics were live,

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Oh no, and they would say
bad things. But it was my

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favorite thing that's ever been on the
end that I mean, even things like

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miked up for like football players.
So yeah, I like minked up too.

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Every time for some reason, they
find funny clips or at least motivating

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clips. Imagine how much like audio
they have to listen to to find something

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actually funny or that they're allowed to
play because they're I mean, sideline at

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a basketball game, like your cursing, who knows what you're saying? It

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is wild, right, because who
bought who first? ABC bought Disney or

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Disney bought ESPN, the ABC bought
both or something or they partnered something like

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that. Damn it, I can't
find this guy's name. You definitely know

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them. I'm sure I know because
I was an addict for that. Now

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he's he's extra famous. He's like
the guy, not Dan Patrick. No,

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he doesn't look like iron Man.
He has like his own show and

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then maybe even moved it to ESPN. It might just be on ESPN radio.

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He might not work for ESPN.
I don't even know everybody. Everybody

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with a show and ESPN works for
as far as I know, it was

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on r ESPN radio here. Oh
interesting, Um, most famous sports radio

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hosts. I'm gonna ima you're gonna
be like, holy shit when I say

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this, because I'm so stupid for
not remember it. He's like the guy.

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What does that mean? Like,
um, the iron Man references when

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he's younger, Okay, right now
he's Greenberg or maybe it's CBS Radio and

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might way it might he might be
Jim Rome. Jim Oh yeah, no,

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yeah, yeah, he does iron
Many a little bit right. Jim

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was just like, that's a little
bit older. But no, I think

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he was Fox maybe because then Fox
and ESPN had a thing. I feel

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like, are you for ABC?
Even I don't know, like that iron

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Man Robert is Robert iron Man's iron
Man iron Man was long is older than

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Robert. Yes, I know that, but are we referring to the actor

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referring to like the comic guy.
Comic guy for sure, iron Man ninety's

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cartoon. I'm talking about this foe. I don't even know if they show

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his face that much, and the
cartoons human face he doesn't happen. Yeah,

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they don't really show him much,
at least in the ones I watched

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them. He's just stuck in his
suit all the time. Well in the

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nineties, yeah, because he would
like make an iron Man wasn't like as

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big of a thing. He would
make like appearances in X Men or in

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Spider Man, and he was always
in the but he was never like the

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main character, not in the stuff
I watched. But people, I don't

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know if that worked for Marvel obviously, to bring that character forward, but

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apparently it is not working for h
for DC to bring the Flash into his

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own movie, because there's never been
a Flash movie before and they'll probably will

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never be a movie again. Yeah, it is funny, like because all

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of them have such depth stories because
stan Lee was so good and the other

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ones. But who Flash and green
Land? Yeah yeah, Like I don't

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know if people love the Green Lantern, do they? I think so?

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But then the movie not the movie? Yeah, and then the movie's just

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bust. It's like weird obviously,
how you portray them in a movie matter

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so much. The Iron Man,
like the way it started was so good.

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No, the first Iron Man's so
good. Yeah, even the second

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one's really good. I hate the
second one really, yeah, I like

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them all. I like people don't
like the third one. Robert Robert Downey's

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so good. And then like the
story's good, it looks good the visual

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for that character too, yes,
yes, but yeah, then you do

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the Flash shit even half the Batman's
I don't care. I understand. It's

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a great performance though, because he
plays against him his younger self through like

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a good third of the movie when
the show had a lot of success.

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Right, He's like totally disconnected.
How many shows too, there's two shows

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different. I think there's two flash
shows. I think maybe is there a

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Flash on the Legends of Tomorrow show? Maybe? I think, which is

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kind of like a superhero team up
kind of time traveling whatever. Whatever.

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No, I think Flash himself has
two shows. I think it's just because

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there's two actors. He was on
the Yeah, there are two actors.

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It's it's uh, Grant Gussin is
the main one. And then well,

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you know it's a weird thing is
that Grant Gussin is like a like a

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Broadway musical star and he doesn't sing
on the Flash. As far as I

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know, I would probably make it
worse. Oh, the spinoff is Legends

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of Tomorrow. Get correct with that. I don't know. I just feel

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like I've seen so many different Flashes. Because this guy's not the one in

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the movie, right, Ezra Miller
is not the one in the movie.

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But Ezra Miller is in one of
the episodes of the TV show. This

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guy's in the movie. No,
oh, so it's a whole new guy.

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So it's it's Ezra Miller who was
in h I know, Ezra Miller.

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He's under some heat right now.
It has been for a minute.

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Yeah, he was diddling, hell
is diddling? Maybe I think it was

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a diddling. I don't want to
know them. Yeah, I think it

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was diddling. I'm not the judge
nor the jury. But it sounds like

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he might have been diddling. Yeah, uh yeah, he you don't know.

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Did I want to say he,
but it's they he uses they pronounced.

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Yeah, he's diddling, diddling like
I think sexual assault and A might

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even been miners. I don't know. Don't quote me. I'm not DMZ.

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I'm just due my Twitter fucking crazy. I don't have Twitter. I

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don't use Twitter. I tried,
I talk about underground. I feel like

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Twitter right now feels like early Internet
and I actually love it. Why well,

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what about it? Just because the
craziest shit be popping on my timeline.

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It's seriously fucked up, bro,
and the algorithms everywhere like it's it's

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semi unhinged. He's a little unhinged, which I kind of joy. I'm

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not an Elon fan by any means. Actually, I'm not a big Elon

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fan. But are you a non
fan? Are you an anti Elon?

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I'm not, I think on the
bigger if we're talking seriously, yeah,

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probably why um, I think he's
a uh he's like a very good at

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hiding his narcissism, so people think
he's so genuine and intelligent. I do

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think he's intelligent. I've never met
anyone like that in person. Yeah,

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I think I think he wants attention, but he like plays it off that

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he doesn't, though, is the
difference. And so people probably says he's

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not interested in money, which yeah, and people eat that up. People

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are eating that up. He acts
very altruistic. Yes, I am eating

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that up. Yeah I am.
I don't hate him. Yeah, I

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think he's. I think he's I
can see what you mean, though,

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Yeah, I think he's. I
think he's put on a very good altruistic

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face, but he's not that way. I mean, it's not as bad

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as The Rock though. No,
dude, I didn't know. The Rock

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is getting tanked right now. People
don't like him anymore. Oh yeah,

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yeah, he'sn't The Rock as a
franchise. Yeah, he's fallen. I

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don't know, but I've said this
for a decade. He's gonna sync.

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Yeah, Well, he's the same. He plays the same character and everything

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he's in basically just himself. So
that's one thing, and you can get

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away with that when you're successful with
it. But he has had a string

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of unsuccessful stuff. I think he
choose bad scripts because even the movies or

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corny and then yeah, I think
you can play yourself or play the same

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guy if you're not putting out a
movie every three months, that's true too,

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right, Like if you're Stu Familiar, Yeah, if you're like like

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Vin Diesel, obviously he's been in
some okay movies as well, but like

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Fast Furious is fine if it's every
three years, and then it's like a

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little like Okay, I'll go watch
this and move on. Not saying those

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are good movies by any means,
but you know what I mean, Like

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you can get by with selling tickets
the rocks in every movie always and they

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always suck. And he's corny.
It is the same thing, and he's

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narcissistic as fuck. It's like for
China because like China loves them, right

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or whatever, and they love the
act American action movies and stuff. They

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eat that stuff. Like it is
interesting that other movies are now getting huge

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play here, which you would assume
means that they're getting big play elsewhere,

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like obviously the Korean stuff, there's
some Brazilian stuff. Um that America,

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I mean, we dominated it for
forty years. There's no one making films

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even close to on our level.
Or TV or anything. But now now

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there's other people because there shit sucks. But back to Elon right, Twitter's

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fun Internet. I don't know if
it's healthy. I don't know if it's

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good. We should bring Twitter stuff
onto here, because I don't know anything

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about your Twitter's crazy right now.
I don't know getting the craziest shit.

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Is it news or is it just
drama? All of it? Okay,

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because that's why I think I like
it, because because yeah, like I

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heard about the submarine stuff before,
like it was major CNN. Yeah,

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it was just from Yeah it is. I do feel like Twitter is kind

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of first at it. Yeah,
I think their first to report anything.

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Yeah, it was kind of originally
more of a news site thing than um

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oh was it? Yeah, and
then it became garbage. I don't know.

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I'm really bad at using news apps, but I do wish that I

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kind of like wanted to use Twitter
just because I feel like people get their

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news. They actually do get their
news like politically and stuff as well,

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which I'm just not well versed in. It gets real crazy politically, but

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so for me, I think I
can distinguish it very well. But that's

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why I say I don't know if
it's healthy. But for me it's fine

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because I know for me, when
I go to Twitter, it's pure entertainment

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right where other people will go to
Twitter and like, fine, make decisions.

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Yeah, that's probably where it gets
unhealthy. But there's because there's some

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crazy like the conspiracies that pop up
on my ship, the drama that pops

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up on my ship, very entertaining. People take it really seriously and they'll

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carry about it like like it'll it'll
affect them for the rest of the day.

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But for you, like, oh
that was funny, This is crazy

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their decisions, which I worry about
because politically, especially now that everyone's got

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a check on that bitch, you
don't know who's legitimate. Someone with ten

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k followers could be a legitimate on
Twitter too, politician. Yea, yeah,

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Twitter actually started it, started it. Yeah. Now everybody that has

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a check is supposedly paying for it, except for the ones that are different

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colors, right, Yeah, that
makes a lot of sense. I like

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the different colors, if you paid
for it. I think Instagram should do

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that too. I'm surprised that they
don't. I get a gold one dog

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who doesn't Who who owns Instagram?
Facebook? Yeah? Meta the Zuck Okay,

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yeah, there was something about the
blue checkmark being like a meta thing,

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and then I'll click on people's thing
because like they'll like or follow whatever.

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I'm like, Oh, who's this
blue checkmark? I'm like, oh

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yeah, eight hundred followers damn.
So you don't follow them back. I

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don't follow them even if they were
blue checkmark on this day unless I knew

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them or carried um, I don't
follow me either. Fuck them. House.

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Twitter is really great for for watching
live tweeting. That's yeah, that's

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really like the rug, like the
rogue and stuff that was going on.

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Do you follow some of that?
No, so last week or the week

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before? Um, which I do
respect rog before. I said this many

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times. I'm not like the huge, biggest fan of him, but I

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am a fan of his show because
I do think he grabs really interesting guests

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that a lot of a stone off
access too, and he is decent at

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asking questions. I don't think he's
always the most decent at continuing conversations or

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um being as neutral as maybe he
should. But again, it's his show,

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so who gives a fuck? But
he does have really interesting guest so

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he has he has h Robert Kennedy
Junior on whose semi controversial to begin with.

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But he so JFK Right got bopped
in the head. This is his

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nephew, who's his dad got bopped
in the head as well. The whole

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family ends up getting bopped. Um, that whole family story. There should

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be more documentaries on that. Like
I'll fun with the Shrivers and shit like

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that family's crazy. This is the
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insanely wealthy, popular political family.
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Schwarzenegger. I think that because he
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the the housekeeper. But kid,
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but if you take like power,
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up there with the most top five
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nuts. So yeah, his answer, Shrivers his uncle or his dad or

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whatever. Kennedy's but he's running for
president. Um, long story short,

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he who knows, but he was
allowed to obviously speak for a long period

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of time where if you in Rogan's
right, like, if you go to

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debates or Twitter or anything, someone's
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get his whole verse out. So
I do respect that um but he's not

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a huge fan of vaccines and he
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I forgot the guy's name. He
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um face actress. Yeah, yeah, the ex wife, the on the

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on screen ex wife and U curbe
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seen much of that. I watched
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every time I watched it, and
seinfelt that it did it better, and

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so I was like, fuck,
I don't care, good man. I

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saw some dumb take that Seinfeld's not
good. I should watch it. The

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show's good too. But Finfeld as
the human oh, someone said, is

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not good and he's only made by
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that's the that's the worst thing ever
that show for sure. Yeah, Steinfeld

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was a successful comedian and continued and
after yeah, and and Larry David isn't

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isn't writing his stand up and by
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yeah, it seems so maybe maybe
maybe a little more complicated than he looks

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on the surface. But like people
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I would rather hang out with that
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seem normal, like he's driving a
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Fuck, I can't find his name, but basically another government style doctor,

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vaccine guy who I think as a
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on Rogan's show. Um started to
to chirp a little bit on Twitter,

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talk of shit on on Kennedy yep. And so then Rogan said, hey,

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man, I would love for you
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and I've seen other ones. Where
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He's done in the nutrition world.
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of being a because it's not an
official debate, but he's done a decent

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job of being neutral and in mediating
it. Um. He had laying on

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with some other people, some some
people in our world, and they were

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decent. Um, they were entertaining
very least. I don't think debates solve

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anything, ever, but they can
be entertaining and growth thought it allows I

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think they're only entertaining. Yeah,
I don't think that anything else comes from

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some people, do think so as
like a listener who doesn't know shit about

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shit, Like, Um, if
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like, I'm more inclined to like
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hear both sides at the same time, it's kind of like, okay,

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so which one do I get to
make my own decisions? And you leave

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a little confused because they're both cutting
each other off again. But Rogan basically

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said, hey, I'll give a
one hundred thousand dollars to the charity of

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your choice, just come on the
show with Kennedy. And this guy had

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previously been on Rogan's show. Yeah, And then a bunch of other people

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started throwing down like, hey,
this is a great idea. Um,

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here's another hundred thousand, here's one
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hundred thousand, and all these famous
rich people elon through money and I think

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too, and he Lauan's chirping in
there. Everyone's starting to chirp, wait

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for like more for what for more
enticing to get this guy to come on

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the show to give money to charity. Which guy, this vaccine guy.

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Can't have him on the show with
Kennedy. Yea. And if I said

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the name, you would know him
for sure. He's a fouci esque type

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guy, Um Gray, big old
beard. He's been out everywhere I've seen

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him in the past two um.
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Kennedy. No, this vaccine guy, he's dodging. Why Kennedy's down to

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talk about anything the debate why,
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actual, you know, FaceTime with
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dodging? I don't know. He's
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one with the background, so he
hasn't been on the show. He has

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by himself. So what is he
dodging? Like, I don't know.

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Answer. He's not answering. He's
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that Kennedy's like fake and this and
that and that's all but it.

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But it was talking about live tweeting. They were live these huge influential folks,

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right fucking Kennedy Elon Rogan. I
think it was Less Friday, and

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They're all chirping each other, and
I'm following it live just like eating up

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like real reality TV. So I've
never used Twitter. I wish I was

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more savvy with that. It's fun
because then you go down loopholes and you

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start to see replies and you see
some other quote unquote famous person chirpin,

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you know, and then you're It
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like I don't know, award shows
stuff like that. That's you know,

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where they're there usually a lot of
fandom and snark at the same time.

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Peter Hotez do you know Peter Hotez? I know the name. Yeah,

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yeah, Yeah, it's him.
He looks like like um if he looks

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like a scientist put in a movie. He looks like Aaron Sorkin. Yeah,

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Peter Hotez is the guy. He
looks like if if Bill Nye and

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Aaron Sorkin had a child together.
He's got kind of crazy guys too.

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you know, I used to be
a pretty big fan of Elon when it

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looked like he had the world solved. And then when I realized that he

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was just paying other people to solve
the world and he was kind of an

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asshole, that I lost. I
lost, that lost all the shits a

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sheen for me that in that Tesla's
are shitty cars. Yeah. I think

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he's an intelligent guy for sure,
but like to me, it's a lot

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of times and I think I do
a decent job of this all those Obviously

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this topic maybe anti what I'm about
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It is like people just don't stay
in their lanes enough. Yeah,

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like too much. Yeah, Like
he's a coder, right, Like he's

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good at coding apparently not okay,
Well either way, that's like what he

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supposed the bread and butter, right, that's it's but it's not this and

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that's a mythology and it's like it's
like a good thing to like he just

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seems like, well, that's why
I think the narcissum comes into plays,

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Like he's just lacking so much self
awareness. Like I think he's capable of

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everything everything, you know what I
mean, Like, are you an AI

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guy? Are you a coding guy? Are you a yeah guy? Yeah?

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Now he's a vaccine guy. And
I understand that if you know you're

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smart, you can understand things a
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that doesn't make you now the vaccine
expert. No, you know. And

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so like that's where I draw a
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he is highly entertaining and he is
kind of a modern day Iron Man type

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character where he's got this kind of
weird ego about him that it's fun to

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follow. But yeah, it's just
easy to stay in your lane and you

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can talk about anything. But like
we've talked about all this stuff a lot

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on here, and I'm not once
saying like yes or no or this or

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that, because I don't know,
you know, I know, to lift

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weights, it's called fifty Yeah,
that's a cover my ass. But it's

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just so weird to me that they
go so yeah, hey wire and try

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to like conquer every aspect. Yeah. Yeah, when he you know,

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when those kids we were trapped in
that cave in Thailand, and uh,

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he came up with a totally impractical
cockamami scheme for getting them out and wanted

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to be taken seriously for it.
And then the one of the rescuers,

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he called him a pedophile on Twitter
just because yeah, just because there's no

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no no support, no evidence,
nothing like that. Yeah. It's like

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that's that's when it broke for me. It's like, Okay, well,

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this guy's kind of a dirt bag. Yeah, it's just weird, Like

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why and um, and if you're
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his power, if he's truly I
don't know the exact example you're talking about,

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but if he's truly about catching pedophiles, which I think is great,

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Um, you have the power,
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You don't have to tweet about it. And like you know what I mean,

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you don't have to point fingers.
Yeah, like you you you have

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the power and resources to make a
difference. Pointing a finger on Twitter is

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not doing that. So do you
care? That's where he comes off fake

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altruistic, right, because you put
that on Twitter? Like am Yeah,

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dude, elon, I hate pedophiles
too, rather than like, no,

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this motherfucker's very powerful if he wants
to get rid of pedophiles. He can

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go actually do that if he if
he wanted to solve hunger or poverty,

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he could do that. He could
do a lot of stuff. Yeah,

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he has the money, he knows
everybody, everybody loves him. He could

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get he can get on the phone
with Biden. He can get on the

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phone with fucking Booting, you know
what I mean, Like people are gonna

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answer this motherfucker's call. He could
probably get in touch with the FBI.

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Like, he could do a lot
of shit. That's so cool rather than

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tweeting, Yeah, like Twitter fingers
man that that that that that's just kind

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of weird. And he's crazy.
What does end game? You know that?

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I don't know. I don't think
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is to save humanity, right,
That's why he's having a thousand kids.

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That's why he's getting us to the
Mars. But like again, like,

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are you he's gonna pull a Genghis
Khan? Yeah? Is that what

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he's say? No, he's yeah, he's fucking he said that because he's

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looked at all the numbers and probably
true, like you know, population might

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decline because all he were as smart
he thinks he was. Yeah, he's

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just fucking He's just fucking like crazy. Yeah. But which I don't know

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if that's the answer, right,
Like I don't know one dude's gonna repopulate

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the world. Maybe that's his excuse
to just fuck yeah, Like if you're

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gonna cover your ass, that'd be
a way to do it. Yeah.

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But and then similarly, Rogan,
I was a huge Rogan fan, huge

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huge Rogan fan, being being somebody
that you know, created a podcast that

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was impartant inspired by a number of
different things Rogan show, uh and and

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had a lot of success with it. We did meet him, Yeah,

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me too. Yeah, he shook
his hands. Handy's famous. Dude,

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you shook Rogan's fan. Do you
know how many people I know you don't

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care, but how many people are
jealous of that Rogan's hand. Yeah,

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he sat and like chatted with us
for five minutes. Tony Hinchcliff you probably,

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Yeah, he chatted with us for
like fifteen twenty minutes. And then

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Rogan's like right hand man hung out
with us for a long time. M

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Lucas, Yeah, David Lucas always
around. I'm pet Rogan in twelve or

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thirteen, like that a long time
ago. I haven't and I've seen a

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show. H yeah, it was
after a show. Yeah yeah, up

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in the bar, yeah, p
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the Oh No, I just like
I think that he got so far out

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over his skis that it's difficult to
to take him seriously anymore. Yeah.

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I think back in the day,
he kind of knew what his you know,

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place in the universe was, which
was, um, it was he

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was facilitating stuff without really putting a
whole lot of his own like bias into

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what he was facilitating, unless it
was. He had a lot of different

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kinds of shows back then, and
I guess he still does now because I

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don't listen anymore. Um, sometimes
it's just other comedians and he knows and

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so if they're just talking and bullshitting
or whatever, and that's always been the

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case, he would throw out all
kinds of different ideas, and because he

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was popular but not so popular,
people didn't latch onto that stuff and try

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to make it true or whatever.
And now is I think he's just a

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He is, in my mind,
a victim of his own popularity, both

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from an internal standpoint and from an
external stand I think that's a really good

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way of putting it because I actually
I don't like blame him. I blame

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Elan a little bit because he's actually, I think, a narcissist, where

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Rogan is one of one. Like
the influence in Voice of Ears he reaches

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is unheard of. Yeah, and
I think actually in the scheme, I'm

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glad it is him because it could
go worse. I don't think he's a

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bad person. That's what I'm saying, you know what I mean, Like,

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imagine like an actual fuck in his
position. Oh yeah, we're bad.

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And I don't I think Rogan has
good intentions. I do think he

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has good intentions. I think he's
a kind of a victim of his own

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popularity in some senses. And then
yeah, I mean we could knock It's

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easy to knock down the guy that's
at the top. Um I think he

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does. I think he does about
a good of his job as he could

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in his spot. Yeah, and
we I mean we know people who are

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friends with Rogan. Yeah. Yeah, and I've never heard any one of

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them saying anything negative. I've only
heard good things. And he was super

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nice. Yeah. It says a
lot. Yeah, it's he is really

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short, though he is quite short. He's about Abbey's height. He's same

404
00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:12.640
hands too, he's about five six, yeah, probably five five. We

405
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.039
sat front row, like, yeah, we went up to the bar that

406
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:18.759
was closed afterwards because our buddy David
Lucas is one of Rogan's you know,

407
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:22.079
up and coming comedians, and so
we were up in the bar and that's

408
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:26.319
where Rogan the green room were,
but we were also sitting stage side when

409
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:29.359
he performed. And as soon as
he came on stage. I don't think

410
00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:30.640
I've ever seen him live. I've
seen a lot of comedians, but I

411
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:34.920
don't think i've seen him. All
I could stare out were his fucking hands.

412
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.519
Fucking yeah, they're fucking yeah.
They were like if you like like

413
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.559
John Cena's hands, Yeah, a
little bit, yeah, chro Magnum ship

414
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.279
going out, Yeah, just fucking
beef mits And I was just staring at

415
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:51.720
him. Hold the yeah, literally, yeah, it looks like he has

416
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:56.160
gloves on hand gloves and on my
whole leaf. Yeah, give him a

417
00:26:56.200 --> 00:27:00.839
handshake and usually you like you'll squeeze
when you hand and like my handed moves

418
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.720
like that was his whole hand as
a beef he fuck man. But he

419
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:07.480
was nice. He went through like
we had a big group with us.

420
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:11.240
He went through like each person and
like sugar hand, Yeah, I just

421
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:14.799
said, we're here for lifting.
Yeah. That much of those guys are

422
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:18.480
nice comedians are cool people. I
do think they're a rare breed um.

423
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:22.599
And again, yeah, I think
in the position he is is just would

424
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:26.599
be so difficult because again, like
he can get an access with anybody too,

425
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:30.839
and everybody's listening and watching his ship. That's true because if you're like

426
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.640
such a big influence and you know
this many people and you like have this

427
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:37.319
much power, it's so easy to
power trips. So if anything like it's

428
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:40.720
almost like I don't know, I
want to give him credit for not turn

429
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:42.839
even I don't think his ego gets
in the way. I think what the

430
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:47.400
one thing he does is, uh, he might still be like too trustworthy

431
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:52.240
of people. He deems his experts, so then he parrots their ideas.

432
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.759
Right, that's like the yeah,
which which which I don't think is like

433
00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.480
unheard of, Like that's not hard, Yeah, because because he talks to

434
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.680
him for three hours, and a
lot of these people are smart. Two

435
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:07.599
very smart people can have different opinions, right, and that's not a thing

436
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:10.240
in this world. Yeah, right, and we've talked about I think even

437
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:12.720
in the last episode, where two
people can be doctors, most doctors,

438
00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:19.440
most nutritionists, at the highest level
politicians don't agree because there isn't true answers

439
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:22.359
always in the world, right,
because we don't know. And so he

440
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:27.400
has these people that are incredibly smart
from very extreme opinions talking to him for

441
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:33.960
three hours. It's understandable that you, for lack of a better term,

442
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.400
are convinced. Yeah, because you're
talking to someone very smart. Yeah,

443
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:40.319
you know, like whether you like
Kennedy or not, and you like VAX's

444
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:44.640
or not, I don't give a
fuck like Kennedy's, Like he's a smart

445
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:47.000
cat. You know, he's a
smart cat. And so then you have

446
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.559
him, and then you have whoever
else on that's anti his view. You

447
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:52.480
could be convinced either way, you
know. At the flip of a switch,

448
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.279
Cheryl Hines finally remembered her name,
his wife. Oh, I don't

449
00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:02.200
kind of that name, m Yeah, only if you ever watched Curb.

450
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:03.880
Yeah, I don't even think I've
ever seen her anything else. She's been

451
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.119
in other things, I think,
Yeah, I've just never seen anything else.

452
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:08.440
Yeah, his show's just so rare. I mean he said, Bernie

453
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:11.880
Sanders on like he's had everybody on, Like that's not a thing. Normally.

454
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:19.200
Yeah, normally Bernie Sanders would go
on Barbara Walters with premeditated questions that

455
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:22.960
him and his team have gone through
and he sits down answers those rogans just

456
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:26.640
fucking firing. That's what still makes
the show the show, right, It's

457
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.880
like, you know, it's just
a meathead comedian talking to like the most

458
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:36.680
powerful people in the world without pr
blocking their ass because it's three hours.

459
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:38.319
Yeah, so you're gonna get some
real shit and you're gonna get some fluff

460
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:44.079
sometimes. I mean, it is
hard to keep up that kind of you

461
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:48.200
know, yeah, no, if
you're if you're the guest, it's hard

462
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:51.640
to keep that facade up for that
long. People. Some people are just

463
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:56.400
more more, are more attuned to
it, and as if they're as sociopath.

464
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.720
I can do it all day long. But and if you watch a

465
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.039
each of them and I have over
because because I started, yeah listening like

466
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:06.759
twenty eleven. Can you still listen? Oh, when I travel or depending

467
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:08.079
on a long bike, right or
not, I'll tap in. Um,

468
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.920
I don't listen religiously, but I'll
listen to podcast just because I like a

469
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.039
three hour format. When I'm traveling, I'm like, all right, I'll

470
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:19.279
get through one podcast and I'm at
my stupid destination. Where was I going?

471
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:25.759
I don't know. This is excellent
radio right here. Yeah, I

472
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:34.759
lost it. Sorry, it's right, you're fired. All right, so

473
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:40.200
we'll move on. That's it.
Um, we want to talk about billionaires

474
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:45.160
and submarines or or did anybody watch
IPF Worlds? I watched the little IPF

475
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:48.039
Worlds. I watched some recaps.
I'm not a real powerlifter. Yeah,

476
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.839
you're fake. People were waking up
are like I'm waking at three A.

477
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:53.559
I'm gonna watch IPF world and like, couldn't be mer Now. I didn't

478
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:56.279
do all that, but we had
it on in here for a little bit.

479
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:59.160
We watched Keko win, which is
cool. I'll sink about hitting them

480
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:00.839
up trying to get up here on
the podcast, I'm not barely learning about

481
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:04.880
these people who are competing Keiko Keiko. So there's a lot of newbies and

482
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:08.400
there's some A lot of international people
are winning now too, obviously because the

483
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:11.759
US is a little split in its
talent. But um, Keiko is a

484
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.960
guy I've known for a very long
time. He's old like me, he's

485
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.680
done it for a decade. Um
and to see him home, take home

486
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:21.839
gold. He's from Fresno, so
there's a local boy. Um he's in

487
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:26.640
Oklahoma. What where is he now? He's free now? Yeah? Yeah,

488
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.160
he losing Fresno. Um, I
don't know if I just docked him.

489
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:37.359
Sorry, buddy, uh Raisins send
him Raisins Fresnos what second third most

490
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.880
populated city in California. Serious,
Yeah, it's huge, It's pretty bad.

491
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:42.960
There's I think it's I think it's
after a la I swear. I

492
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:45.640
think I think maybe San Bernardino or
something. But like, isn't there like

493
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.920
nothing out there there? Yeah I've
heard it. Yeah, I've driven by

494
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.359
it, but I think it has
more folks in uh San Diego even but

495
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.160
um crazy strong known for his bench. I think you mentioned mid five high

496
00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:01.160
fives as as one hundred key locat
um stupid nice I kind of first,

497
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:04.599
I've I've knew of him as a
lifter for a while, but I first,

498
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.240
like more connected with him through video
games. He was in my twist

499
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:09.839
chat because he's a gamer. Um. But I would be fun to have

500
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:14.240
him up here for a treenty session, maybe a podcast. Pretty close,

501
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:16.720
He's very close. Yeah, Jessica
Budner watched her that it was that session.

502
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.799
What did she place? I think
she got third. I think she

503
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:22.759
maybe missed a squat in a pole. I think she pulled for an all

504
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:29.880
time world record and maybe missed it. M yeah, really good bronze.

505
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:34.839
Um. Yeah, Aiden obviously was
still going in the same group. Um,

506
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:39.680
Gavin Aden, Okay, you were
way off. So on which one

507
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:49.319
Fresno The size of Fresno, size
of it? Um, Fresno is eighth

508
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:54.000
largest city in California, in California, No shot, Yeah, what's one?

509
00:32:54.200 --> 00:33:01.359
La Los Angeles Number two is nope, No, Santa Clara, No,

510
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:06.480
Santa Clara. No. You guys
are right with the first half of

511
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:10.079
what you're saying. San Francisco.
San Francisco is my population. So yes,

512
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:15.359
the population of Los Angeles three point
nine million, San Francisco eight hundred

513
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.359
and ten thousand. Wow, that's
a bit different. What this is weird

514
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.640
because it isn't. It isn't because
I thought Fresno has a million plus.

515
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.920
No. No, according to this, Fresno is five fty. No way,

516
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:29.960
that's what we have. But San
Diego actually is number two, and

517
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.519
I don't know why it's listed in. San Jose is number three, San

518
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:43.359
Francisco's number four, Sacramento is number
six. Looks like that's crazy. I

519
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:45.599
don't know why. I thought I
had way more. I don't know.

520
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:50.640
This could be a fucked up list. Yeah, it's population at what I

521
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.680
just googled is five fifty for Fresno, in five twenty five for sac and

522
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:58.519
that's in twenty twenty one. Okay, this is the ranked list. Okay,

523
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:00.880
so it's los Ange list, San
Diego, San Jose, San Francisco,

524
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:07.800
Fresno, Sacramento, Long Beach,
Oakland, Bakersfield, Anaheim, Stockton.

525
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:15.079
How many people on Stockton? Three
twenty one? Riverside, which no

526
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:19.039
reason to anyone for anyone to go
ever, go to Riverside, Irvine,

527
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.679
Santa Anna, Chula Vista, Fremont, Santa Clarita. I'm surprised a new

528
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:30.719
sound of Clarida, wasn't I uh? San Bernardino, Modesto, Fontana,

529
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:37.039
Moreno, Valley, Oxnard, Huntington
Beach, Glendale, Ontario. Elk Grove

530
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:44.400
boo, I hate, yes,
I hate Elk Groves. Santa Rosa,

531
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:52.519
Cucamonga, Oceanside, Garden Grove,
Lancaster, Palmdale, awful of complacent baby

532
00:34:53.159 --> 00:35:00.400
Selena and number thirty six Elk Groves, Roseville. Everyone's gonna be so upset.

533
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:04.800
I never members from from milk Row. Yeah, but I mean,

534
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.360
you know, be your own self. If that's if the shoe fits,

535
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:08.519
you can get mad at me.
But like if it doesn't be, like,

536
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.239
well, I'm just the exception,
like not everyone obviously right, You're

537
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:15.639
only offended if it fits, Beau. Yeah, seriously, Like, don't

538
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.800
get offended. If a mood then
it doesn't affect this, it doesn't apply

539
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:22.039
apply to you, then don't get
mad. If you got mad, check

540
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:30.440
yourself. Why are you trying to
h You're right? I hate going back

541
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:31.960
there. I say that all the
time though, Like why are you insulted?

542
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:35.840
If you like, you shouldn't be
defensive if it's not true, right,

543
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:37.679
it's thought about you. Yeah,
like internet comments, the only ones

544
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.079
that burn me are the ones that
I feel or something true that I'm actually

545
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:43.639
voln exactly or if like it affects
me, I'm like, oh shit,

546
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:46.119
why do I feel? Like steroid
allegations, like people get mad about that.

547
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:50.039
I've never once been mad at because
I just know I haven't done the

548
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:53.440
steroids. Cool you think I look
or I am strong enough to be on

549
00:35:53.559 --> 00:36:00.199
this anyone. Yeah, it's a
humble what is it? No? No,

550
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.559
it's a backhanded compliment. Yeah kind
of. Yeah. Some people were

551
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:07.440
mad about it though. It was
weird, like a screenshot at one one.

552
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:09.920
One dude went crazy, let's see
if I saved this crazy? Oh

553
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:15.079
my, he commented on like using
you five videos it was wild or defending

554
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:17.679
you. No, going at me
really bad. It was so funny.

555
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:22.559
I don't understand what's possible. I
think we've talked about that million times before.

556
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:27.679
People don't understand what's possible if you
train long enough and and you have

557
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:30.719
the genetics for it. You don't
have to have amazing genetics. We have

558
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.440
to have halfway decent genets. When
people don't know like timelines right right,

559
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:37.480
because it's the Internet, so I
could post something yesterday that was eight years

560
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:39.119
old or whatever. So you said
this guy is two hundred and fifty pounds,

561
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:43.920
then leaned out after two months.
This guy's two hundred and fifty pounds

562
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:46.320
a few months ago, and now
he's leaning out. Everyone knows that he

563
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:50.400
has been taking and what he's been
doing. Thumbs down, thumbs down,

564
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.639
needle needle needle, thumbs down,
thumbs down. All right, next video.

565
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:55.480
Do you hope that those people die
in their sleep? Because I always

566
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:59.880
always think that they, Oh,
no, stupid, the stupidest haters.

567
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:02.719
I just wish that they would consider. Who knows, but the steroid tier

568
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.719
T package that Mike was on a
year ago was legit. He's on it

569
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:12.480
again after fattening up or bulkying according
to Mike, and cycling off. So

570
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:15.400
we'll see what Mike being ripped in
two months and he'll say it's because I'm

571
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:20.039
hitting the gym hard. Mike sure
is hitting the gym hard. Laugh face,

572
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.599
laugh face, laugh face, laugh
face, laugh face. Needle needle,

573
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:30.119
needle, needle needle needles. You
should eat as many Hamburgers as I

574
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:32.840
possible, steroid up like Mike,
and then cycle off just like he did.

575
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:37.320
Mike thinks that no one realizes he's
a steroid cheat. Laugh face,

576
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.559
laugh face, laugh face, same
guy. Damn, I know what is

577
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:44.719
wrong with this guy? I don't
know seeing if I were you Elon Musk

578
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:50.360
and someone was talking about me the
way they're talking about you. There then

579
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:53.480
I would just find out where this
guy lives easily. I know. You

580
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:55.920
meant if you had Elon Musks,
if you were in his shoes. But

581
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:00.280
what Elon Musk would do was he
would have fire back. Yeah. That's

582
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:01.559
what makes me think he's narcissist.
You know, like, I can't have

583
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.840
anyone talking about about me out there. I must show him. I'm like,

584
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:06.719
bro, I didn't answer this guy. I just let him beat Like

585
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:08.360
what, we're not gonna say it, like, no, man, I'm

586
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:13.960
natty. Yeah, put he gonna
in. That's true. I don't know

587
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:15.920
what their their goal is. And
I mean I just feel like the Keyboard

588
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:20.880
Warriors because they wouldn't really talk like
this in person if they actually met you.

589
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.840
I think it's one total keyboard warrior
or two someone I know that doesn't

590
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:27.920
like me. Those are always my
oh like a fake account. Yeah,

591
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:32.199
those are always my toss ups.
We've had that problem before. Yeah.

592
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:39.320
Uh no, well you can like
you can deduct Yeah, oh dang.

593
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:44.960
Yeah. I that's like the pros
and cons of like getting bigger or whatever

594
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:46.559
on the internet. On the Internet, we're not even that big. Imagine

595
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:50.559
if you're huge. Yeah. I
said something about like telling someone who was

596
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:53.920
asking me a question about how to
lift with bipolar depression, which what is

597
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:58.360
that even? Like like yeah,
and they were probably even coming at you

598
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:00.639
with a slight joke. Yeah,
And then they said affects my dad lift

599
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:04.559
the most, and I said,
just lift without it and as a joke.

600
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:12.039
And then I was like, don't
like this is a lesson joke,

601
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.199
like I'm not serious. Oh my
god, yeah, let this be a

602
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:20.239
lesson. Yeah, I don't be
bipolar. You don't ask don't ask me,

603
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:22.920
like please, like that sounds really
serious or what. I'm like,

604
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:29.039
I just don't know, um,
like yeah exactly. So I'm just saying

605
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:30.519
like it's out of my lane,
like ask people who know what they're talking

606
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:32.840
about. And someone was like,
wow, you should think about what we

607
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:38.239
put online before you say something like
you're limiting this person's ability to ask questions

608
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:42.159
freely. I'm like, brobably,
ask me this question freely, And I

609
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:45.280
answered freely, like if they don't
want my answer, then don't ask the

610
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:47.039
question. Don't ask me. But
also like I don't know this person.

611
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:52.039
I'm not gonna start prescribing, like
well you just start with this like I

612
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:53.400
don't deal with it. So how
would I know, Like, no,

613
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:58.119
that's a very extreme case, and
it's like, yeah, I'm My advice

614
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:00.119
is to ask someone who knows what
they're talking about, Like, don't just

615
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:05.039
ask some willy nilly internet people,
like don't go on Reddit because you don't

616
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.360
know who's like who you're gonna take
advice from, you know? So um

617
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:13.679
And they got upset and like unfollowed
me this this girl because I was limiting

618
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:17.079
their ability to ask questions. And
it's like whatever, people are soft.

619
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:20.239
I was like, Okay, have
a good one, and they're getting softer.

620
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:22.039
Yeah, I'm sick of it.
They just, especially when it comes

621
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:27.480
to mental health things, are so
like overprotective of other people who are I

622
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:32.000
don't know, Like I understand the
empathy and the sensitive sensitivity around the topics

623
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:36.519
and stuff, but also like this
is the Internet. You can find some

624
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:37.679
fun shit out here, like like
what are you gonna do? Put them

625
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.039
in a bubble. I'm one of
the biggest and I don't want to say

626
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:45.320
first, but for sure in the
early wave of like a mental health advocate

627
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.199
in the fitness space on the Internet, I've talked about it forever. I've

628
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:51.960
dealt with it forever. Obviously,
and I'm still on the opposite side of

629
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.800
all that, Like, like,
not every motherfucker's got depression. Not every

630
00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:00.840
motherfucker. You can be anxious and
not having you can be sad and not

631
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:05.920
be depressed. You can be lonely
and you know, you can be alone.

632
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:08.440
Yeah, Like all that is so
true, and like all these people

633
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:13.159
are just whipping it out there because
it's trendy and popular and to get empathy

634
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:16.239
and to be special. And I
do honestly feel like the snowflake deal is

635
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:22.920
so real that people are so unself
aware and so self conscious of their identity

636
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:27.760
and lacking thereof that they have to
tie it to something. So they tie

637
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.280
it to like anxiety, and they
tie it to even lifting, or they'll

638
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:34.280
tie it to whatever, rather than
like, no, I'm Mike, I

639
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:36.639
enjoy this, that and the other. I'm a son, I'm a business,

640
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:38.480
you know what I mean, Like
be you can have Yeah, you

641
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:43.800
can have identity that's not so tied
to those things. And that's maybe because

642
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:45.320
I've been diagnosed. You know,
I've been to therapy, I've been to

643
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:52.360
doctors, and so I'm not insulted
or it's but people are just saying it

644
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:55.199
they go to a fucking doctor.
If you think you're fucked up, well,

645
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:59.159
I think two I've said this before, I know I have. Is

646
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.760
that kind of the worst takes out
there are the takes that people have for

647
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.880
other people and not from themselves.
Yeah, like when it doesn't and I

648
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.880
don't know her background in it,
but also like coming at me with this

649
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.159
like, um, I'm not follow
you because you don't think about what you

650
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:17.239
say. It's like, how about
you try to like understand, like you

651
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:21.199
followed me for this song, what
my perspective is and then like, if

652
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.480
anything, educate or inform me about, like you know, the different nuances

653
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:28.480
and how to respond to these kind
of questions or why would why wouldn't her

654
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.639
comment on responsibility what you say online? Also go to the person that asked

655
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:36.320
the question. So, if you
are bipolar and you've been diagnosed it,

656
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:38.679
because that's the only way you are
bipolar r it's without a diagnosis, you're

657
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:43.960
not you're lost. And so if
that person is diagnosed bipolar, why wouldn't

658
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:45.840
they go to the person that diagnosed
them and ask them how they deal with

659
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:50.679
lifting and their diagnosis, right,
Because that's because then it's irresponsibile just go

660
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:53.440
online and say that. Yeah.
I like read Kyle the question. He's

661
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:55.840
like, what, like, why
are they why are this person asking you

662
00:42:57.000 --> 00:42:59.719
that? And it's like, I
don't know. So if if they had

663
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:05.000
structure the question this way, if
they had said, I suffer from bipolar

664
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:12.920
depression, being I have been diagnosed
with whatever whatever, I sometimes struggle with

665
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.960
getting to the gym when I'm in
a depressive phase. Do you have any

666
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:22.119
ideas that might you know, help
me get to the gym during those times?

667
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:27.039
Yeah, it's not still not a
perfect question for you, but it's

668
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:30.559
at least a question with like appropriate
context, right right right, And it

669
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:32.519
does sound more serious that way.
This one. Not that it wasn't serious.

670
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:35.360
I didn't take It's not that I
didn't take it, No, but

671
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:37.320
it could have come out as like
a but it was like, how do

672
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:39.320
I lift with bipolar depression? It
affects my dead lift the most? What

673
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:43.880
could mean that's a joke? Yeah, because people say all the time like,

674
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:45.039
oh, my girlfriend broke up with
me, I can't bench press or

675
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.159
something, you know, so it's
probably not even real. In this girl,

676
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:51.679
I came out me, but the
whole thing you were talking about like,

677
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:58.239
um, completely identifying like you now
identify with whatever you're diagnosed with and

678
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.440
not having like your own personality more. Um. That's kind of like similar

679
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:05.400
to how some clients I work with, they'll come in with, all,

680
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:07.719
I have a back injury. So
everything they do is like, oh,

681
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:12.639
it's because my back, like telling
you how because i'll i'll, i'll,

682
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:15.440
I'll teach them how to do,
say, walking lunges, like oh,

683
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:17.960
make sure this isn't that it's like, oh, it's because like my scoliosis,

684
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.480
and I'm like sometimes things I'm just
telling you is just to like help

685
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:27.199
you fix your like these common mistakes
people make in these like performing in these

686
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.840
exercises, and then they always relate
somehow related back to like whatever their injuries.

687
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:34.639
We are going to self limit yourself. And and something that actually some

688
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:38.760
therapists use as a tool or method, a lesson whatever, is to actually

689
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:44.199
take that person and name them and
make them separate than you, Like,

690
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:47.440
oh, Mikey is the anxious guy. Mike's not, and so you start

691
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:51.840
to identify that as over there,
like separate than you, you know what

692
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:53.159
I mean, Like, oh,
yeah, my Mike, he's trying to

693
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:55.400
hang out today that fool is anxious, you know, and so you separate

694
00:44:55.440 --> 00:45:00.480
it from who you actually are,
which now name is schizophrenic. I'm scared

695
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:01.920
by that. Yeah, I'm not
talking, but you know what I mean,

696
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:04.840
or you know, like I don't
know what I'm getting into here.

697
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.280
Yeah, but but that is a
tool that I've been taught. Oh god,

698
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:12.599
stop, we need to stop throwing
out like mental mental disorders or yeah,

699
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.639
they know, I'm not a doctor. Anyway, I think that most

700
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:22.719
of most of the legitimate uh bitching
about wokeness is exactly what we're saying here,

701
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:27.199
where people being offended for other people, Yeah, and not their own

702
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.039
experience. And just like kind of
one last thing to classify this. When

703
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:35.880
people are diagnosed to something or they
self diagnosed as a particular thing, it's

704
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:39.880
so much of a relief to them
because they then they have an identity to

705
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:44.559
put on or an excuse, an
excuse, yeah it is. Yeah,

706
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:46.960
so I mean, and I get
that. I understand that, especially if

707
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:50.719
people really feel like they're out in
the wilderness. It's good to feel like

708
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:53.000
you, you know, have a
tribe or whatever. But like, yeah,

709
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.280
but if you act use your tribe
carefully, well, if you actually

710
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:58.679
have problems. It's like anything else
in life. You can bitch about it

711
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:00.000
or you could fix it. Yeah, and so in those cases, if

712
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:04.760
you're not feeling well or that you're
at your optimal statementtally, go find help.

713
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.119
And even if you're not, you
can probably get better at it.

714
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:08.800
Go find help. If you have
a back issue, go find help.

715
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:13.039
If you have a business issue,
go find help or fix the issue.

716
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:15.280
We can, we can talk about
it, don't use it as a crutch.

717
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:16.639
Well, we can point out problems
all day. Anxiety is a problem,

718
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:20.119
Depression is a problem. Being brokes
a problem, Being fat's a problem.

719
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:22.679
All these are problems and everyone hasn't. But identifying a problem doesn't fix

720
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:27.519
a problem. Identifying an answer and
taking action fixes a problem. And then

721
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.760
like you use this problem to answer
or as an excuse for all your other

722
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:35.000
problems. Yeah, just now,
we're just full of problems. You are

723
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:42.760
now, you're never gonn and and
like psychologists will tell you that that's all

724
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.320
about shame avoidance. Yeah, yeah, because it's not eat. I'm not

725
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:47.679
saying it's easy. Yeah, I'm
not saying it's easy to look in the

726
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:51.800
mirror, see your problems and fix
it or tell yourself to shut the fuck

727
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:53.280
up. You know, my head
goes dark. Man, I'll just tell

728
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:57.719
myself to shut the fuck up.
We're gonna do something else. Like it's

729
00:46:57.760 --> 00:46:59.800
hard. It's hard to say,
Mike, you did this wrong, and

730
00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:01.159
you've done this wrong for a long
time, or you've looked this way or

731
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:05.239
you're thinking wrong. Like, that's
not easy. But if you actually want

732
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:07.840
to change it, change who you
are, change how you move, change

733
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:09.159
how you do things, change how
you think. Yeah, it's gonna be

734
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:12.760
hard, but you could do it, or you could be What I do

735
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:15.719
is I allow myself to bitch for
an x amount of time and then I'm

736
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:17.519
like, Okay, bitching time is
over. Go do something about it.

737
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:20.159
Yeah, you know, because I'm
like, okay, I'm not going to

738
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:22.159
suppress it and tell myself I can't
feel this way because I can. It's

739
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.480
totally fine. And then like after
I'm like, okay, well now I'm

740
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:30.400
done bitching and now kicking my feet. Yeah, now, now what I

741
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:34.440
just had eight bars of chocolate?
Now what chocolate actually works? There's like

742
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:37.800
scientific evidence about that. Time to
go any more chocolate? Yes, Jim,

743
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:39.360
You're welcome. Wrap them up,
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