Is there a legit case against sumo?
With the IPF now discussing banning sumo deadlifts, we try to come up with legitimate reasons (other than social media scrubs not liking them) why they shouldn’t be allowed in competition? Will this subject ever die?
We start off talking about...
We start off talking about Mike’s recent trip to Alphaland and Corrupted Strength. Avi Lieu joins us for this one. You can find Avi on Instagram @avi.lieu.
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0:09 Teddy Bear on my shirt. You do have a Teddy Bear in your shirt? So okay, I'll save this um for two until we get started. We rolled in, okay, all right. So I had an experience yesterday that I don't know exactly exactly what happened, but it seems to me. No, oh fuck, that would be awesome if you don't know what happens now. I don't know. Well, this is now, now that you've got the expectations build up, and it's going to seem really trivial. Yeah, except it might not because of the of the actual context. Um so uh churs and I went to a taco place last night and uh, somebody seemingly recognized this hoodie and commented on good company. Yeah for the clothing.
0:59 Yeah, yes to me? Yeah what they say? He said good company? Nice? That might be at first, it might be I don't know if I've gotten that, like they knew the company, because yeah, it seemed like I didn't like he was the bartender. I didn't interrogate him, but you know, I should have put a light on his fucking head. Yeah, why is it a member? Say where is he? Where's his good company? Yeah? Hey? I was also wearing it one of our T shirts underneath too. So when I took this up and that's pretty dope. I was talking to uh, I just got back from Texas and shout out to all the boys there. Man, there's a lot of a lot of good dudes out there. And we're hanging out with a Guzman who's you know, the king of this whole game. And I brought a babby Um.
1:40 I was like, oh, dude, like my my trainer and lift her. She has no clue who you are and loves your pants. And he's like, that's my mark on the world. What do you need? That's where you told me. Then, no, it's a good thing. It's a compliment. And he's like, true, though you knew him before. I could have sworn you at alphaite on. I knew I know who you. Maybe we're joking with me then, because I thought you wore them all time since Nikki. Oh so you did know? So I was wrong, my bad Guzman, she knew you. I thought no, But he was complimented, like I think that's doper than to do the bar. The bartender being like, oh yeah, Mike, list like I'm stupid. Rather the brand carry your clothing companies. Yeah, way more. Well, I mean really that's that's what it's important in the end is Yeah, that's is the corporate Yeah, that's not individual. We're never going to put our names and anything we own or my face on ship. That's still a thing.
2:35 It blows my mind. People like, get some Cloud. I just saw two New Cloud. Eas that's happened to him. We'll start this off with drama, the avey drama, the tea as tea time. That's what these episodes we called. Except I don't bring in any of it, No, I bring it, but I could see secretly you enjoy it. Okay, uh two New Cloud You know cloud demons got some following automatically come out with the pre workout which is probably white labeled not you Nique, and then their fucking faces on it. And they're not even good looking, what you know. Yeah, Like, if you're fucking Pam Anderson or something, sure, man, throw your titties on a on a label. But if you're ugly and you're just gonna put your literal face as the because when we say like you could say, like I'm the face of the brand, but that's not my fucking face. That's because I content and whatever else your character. Yeah, I just I'm the storyteller. I haven't seen this. I want to know who it is. Well, yeah, I'm not gonna put that you're not. Yeah, maybe maybe maybe I'll just keep it to myself and be a hater. People figure it out. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah, there a is there a way for people to find I don't think so, because there's so many people doing it. There's so many people putting their face on shit and like that's fine. But like even Michael Jordan probably didn't put his face on shit. Nike said, Yo, we own your likeliness when we're gonna do it right. It's not like Jordan's going in. They're like, yo, make a tea with my face, And that's Michael fucking Jordan. People are really into themselves these days, really into themselves. Yeah, or like you know, like a totally stupid version of their face that they put up there on their Yeah. I guess yeah. Maybe, Yeah,
4:08 there's a play somewhere to be had. I don't know. It's just not my style, it's yeah, and where can they find that? Of Elia at dot c c um. This one's coming out probably this week. I think this one may come out next week. All right, so we're already live three SB dot c oh um, hopefully it's not sold out, no promises. We're doing an expo in the past. We already went to Vegas and we're doing a pop up at Fight or Quit with the homies MIKEA Mareno so. Um. Then we have the Discord launch, So if you're not a part of Discord, good company, Discord dot com. And then if you're waiting to hear this podcast, now you get the crumbles. Yeah. So just in case you guys didn't notice, like there's been a lot of travel going on around here. Um, we're kind of going like maybe weeks at a time not seeing each other and then having to pull together and and content you willize trying to make some moves out here, and I think more shot probably won't slid on. We gotta move. Moves are happening.
5:09 The world's open fitness is flourishing. Good Companies taken over every bartender's closet and Bartender's closet. Yeah, that's that's gonna be the name of this, you know, other spinoff podcast, Bartender's Closet. And then let's get to the real News Avelia. Okay, Sumo is being outlawed. No, it's not. Okay, it's not. I was just trying to get some attention from our listeners. Yeah, they're your ears definitely perked up. What do you think? Finally, so they say that, don't quote me. Jim can maybe whip of the quote. But it was basically like the chairman the Exacts are gonna take a look at the Sumo deadlift. I'm sure there's a lot of people who are annoyed about this because I am. I just I'm so tired of hearing it. Like it started off as like a gym thing on line, just oh, Sumo is cheating, and now it's like, oh, we're bringing it back, but now it's more official and IPF is getting involved. I'm just like, do whatever you want. I don't even care at this point. I want to play Devil's Advocate. Okay. So I do think because me and Bart talk a lot of I think God's Advocate.
6:15 WHOA. I do think it's weird. I don't think Sumo is cheating. We'll put that on there because range of motion isn't the end albial or everyone would squat white as fucking and everyone would bench to max and they don't throughout history, right, because leverages, strengths, weaknesses, and technique matter just as much as rom Rom's one piece. But I do think it's weird because sumo and conventional although it's called sumo delft conventional dead lift, they are different lifts, you know, like completely different lists. I think that's weird that they compete against each other. Yeah, right. Think about it this way though, if um, say, if someone was squatting in competition with a narrow stance versus squat with a wide stand high bar, you can do that and nobody questions it. I think low bar high bars slightly better argument, but still it's not the same to me because like where your hands go, like everything's totally different. Yeah, techniques different, like everything's different. But that's what you look that you break it down into, Like I mean, essentially, it's a barbel on the floor. Yeah, it's ground to him.
7:19 It's ground to him for sure. But I think, um, I guess my argument then would be not because it's cheating, but because if you want and I actually don't really get the argument where people like sumo doesn't look good, you know, because that's the other argument, like people don't good but people like don't understand it and that's why they don't, you know, want to watch it or whatever. It's not as visually appealing. Because if that's what we're going for, then yeah, we're taking bench press out of the competition. We're gonna go overhead press, right, So yeah, flamethrowers and sparklers. When somebody makes us a squad, yeah, because they make this argument, but then you got to base it on all three lifts, right, That's what I get, right, Because they'll say like, oh, well sumo isn't as exciting to watch, We're like, well, the bench is the most portant to watch, so we would eliminate that. But I do see the argument where they look so extremely different. Even high bar low bar. You see a squat and you're like, oh squat, Like say, you erase it's impossible for all of us, but erase all your lifting knowledge, right, you see bar on the back squat squad. I think if you see sumo and conventional, you see them totally different if you could delete all your fitness background. So if the argument is to make it more widely accepted, and that's what's the bottleneck of growing the sport. I can at least see an argument, but I could see it's just much of an argument to get rid of conventional too. I'm not biased either way, but just to have one, just to have one. There's only one ring to rule them all. Happy May fourth, it's my favorite holiday? Oh?
8:48 Is that today giving away? When we're recording this, it's Star Wars daydays, Happy Holidays day. That's very neutral of you for the Star Trek fans out there. Can't you say Mary Christmas Canny say May fourth? Any fucking more? We just got a people please all over the universe. Huh. We have the high ground though, so yeah, how he gets none of it? She gets nothing he really had. Don't have a You don't got the high ground the Star Wars background at all. I do. Um. I could say that you just don't care. I don't care. I think Anakin's a freaking weirdo. Only how they portray him. God, yeah, they portray real. The real guy was totally different. Yeah, well, Clone Wars, he's dope. Is he meant to be arrogant? Are we supposed to? Yeah? They just like make it too loud. How he's changing in the Dark Side. But don't make me kill you. I hate that. Give me the face, to give me the face, but what Luke makes a dumb ass face when he's hanging from that pole in the Cloud City too. That's the one scene I literally cringe every Star Wars.
9:48 Yeah, when he gets yeated down the pipe and he's hanging on the you know, before the Millennium Falcon First, is that the first time he fights Vader? Yeah, oh my god, not the details. His face is like, yeah, he turns up the job of the be uncomfortable. I'm sure he doesn't feel good, but he looks really ugly. Supposed to be a movie star and a Jedi. I don't know. But Anakin in Clone Wars is fucking sick. I haven't watched at all. I haven't really watched war. He's pretty cool on that, Like, he's pretty neutral. You know, he's a badass, but he's not whiny. But he's not a perfect little kid either. I think that they handled him pretty well in the uh Obi wan Kenobi series. Yeah, yeah, I agree, Yeah, a little, a little like a context that would make some of the following films seem a little something. Have you watched Mandalorian Abbey. No, you might like that. There's just so many different now there's a ship, there's there's too many. I don't know where to start. I don't know where to like. Season three of the Mandalorian has has been very divisive. Oh yeah, I haven't heard a ton about it. I haven't had a time to sit down. I haven't had time to watch anything. Actually, like Lesman crazy. We watched the Kings game on the road. Shout out to Kuzman again. He brought us in his VIP lounge so I got to watch the Kings game. Mike is so cool. No, all the VIP treatments and everything. You just make friends with owners of sh I just have cool friends. I'm not cool. I just have cool friends. Take and take bark Quin with you. Yeah, getting anywhere. Yeah, they did have a candy wall. So you've been to like you know how you go into like what's the They didn't share any of this with me. I can't.
11:20 I should have brought the candy back. I could have no candy, no pictures. You go to what's the is it Sweet's factory? What's the og candy store in the mall? Yeah, and they have not the bins, but they have towers. Right, Frank, he's got like ten of those good crazy what good everything, and then starburs gummies and then the eleventh one thing to share? What but you do flip turn around and you go to the bar and grab yourself you know, tequila and oh yeah that's cool. You can turn around and grab yourself tequila. Yeah that's true. It's it's uh, we're getting there. We're not quite We're getting there, Tommies were, Yeah, we're getting there. We're like the street version of Alpha Land.
12:03 We're like the slums Street. I try to make it sound cool. Street is almost like, I mean comparative. Okay, then we're the um We got to revamp this room now. Yeah, they're Beverly Hills candy in here and where I don't know what you know, we're Santa Monica or something not good for me that the candy and verse has been staring at me and I can't could have done the cardio with me. So what are we? What's gonna happen with Szumo before we move on? Do you think anything? If anything? I guess because and then it doesn't matter because I thought the bench deal would be big. I thought IPF would do it and people would trickle effect. But I don't think anyone else is gonna know one else is going to do that. I know one else is going to change off with sumo either. Yeah, yeah, but I think they might just restrict with yeah, which is I could see that, yeah, which I think is not bad. Right, we have a grip with on a bench, we have a in the IPF, we have and everywhere. But in IPF the they're more strict on how low you can put the barbell on a squat, so then more specific. Yeah, but why not? You know it makes sense? Yeah, I would. I could be more behind it if there was a greater inherent risk in lifting a particular way you mean injury wise, injury wise. Yeah, it's like independent, like suicide grip. Like I don't think anybody should suicide grip. Yeah, the USAPO met bar just competed in the head judge said no suicide grip, which I've never heard. Yeah, I don't think it's a rule, right, I don't think it's a rule, but I agree mine as well. Yeah, like just make it
13:33 a rule. Wrap your little tum tumber, right, what's that deadlift where you have you straddle the bar so Jeffson deadlift. Can you do that in a meat I don't think. I don't think so either. Could I don't know rule I could probably ask Tanner, but he and he would know. For some reason, Masonomics is obsessed with that lift. There are principal proponents of the Jefferson deadlift. Daniel asked me once, and I'm like, I don't know. Actually, yeah, I don't think so that's funny. Or could you put the barbell behind you because that's your digital heck, yeah, so dumb. Now that one's dumb. But the Jefferson's cool. But no, I didn't think it was cool either. I think it. Reverse bench reverse grip bench was a thing for a long time. Yeah, there's some people still do it. I've done that before when I hurt myself. Yeah, that's why people do it primarily because um, they'll have created an injury that makes it uncomfortable to bench normally. And that's strangers too. It does to me too, except you're doing it super light for rehap. No guys compete in it. Well that's dumb. Guys have bench like that. Oh god, yeah, it's crazy. My body. Don't even do that.
14:37 Yeah, turns that way. Well, other big dudes. This is not obviously definitive. But um, you know AI is taking over the world. Yeah, and we AI decide whether allowed or not. Well, if you no, this is better. I have access to bard, which is Google's beta. Okay, okay, sumo cheating? It is sumo deadlift cheating is the question. The answer is no. Sumo delosts are not cheating period. They are a legitimate and effective way to deadlift, and they are allowed in all major powerlifting competitions. The sumo deadlift is a variation of the deadlift that is performed with a wider stance and a grip that is wider than shoulder with the part. This stance allows the lifter to use their hips and glutes more effectively, can make it easier to lift heavier weights. Wrong some people believe that the sumo deadlift is cheating because it allows a lifter to lift more weight.
15:35 However, this is not true. The sumo deadlift is simply a different way to deadlift, and it is not inherently easier or harder than the conventional dead The best way to determine which deadlift variation is right for you is to experiment with the boats and see which one feels more comfortable and allows you to lift more weight safely. Thanks Quartanata. Quartana was Halo master Chief's ai. I thought, so that's like the first thing, and it's a fucking lid. It's a cute little purple girl. Yeah, it's almost like her. I feel like there's a romance going on between master Chief and Cortana. Sometimes her name's Cortana and she just leads you through the mission. Yeah, I played Halo growing, Yeah, a little purple Thank Cortana is the um is the series of Windows. Yeah, I almost when did that come out?
16:25 Because Microsoft made Halo, right, and so that came out O one, Microsoft made Halo. Yeah, I didn't know because it was Xbox exclusive. That's wasn't x Yeah, because Halo came out and no one. I wonder if it was like a master plan. Probably, Yeah, they're smart. They're smart. Anyways, that was a pretty thorough response. But you don't use more glues, it says, what did it say, more efficiently allows more effectively effectively because you have the bar closer to you. Yeah, but you're clues like the hip extension that you're actually doing is less. Yeah, it's more on your quad than your glutes. That's like an old wives till we have wives tales in the sport. Yeah, it's like an old wives tale. That sumo, Like, if you're a bikini girl, you should do sumo for your glutes. Conventional actually works your glute max more that glue max is what makes you dumps the hip extension, right range of motion, the hip extension, but your position at the top when you're extending your hips, like you get it better. I don't know, does not. Yeah, No, you'll feel it maybe more and it's maybe slightly more gluted mead.
17:32 But glue mead isn't what's winning shows from the behind, you know what I mean? Like you're glue. No one's glued meads making them fill out the Levi's whatever. I don't know. I just do it for the dumpy dead lives. Yeah, no doubt I do well. Hopefully, UM Sumo stays in because I'm gonna not pull convention. You're not gonna lie I hate conventional. Maybe eventually, oh, I pull out all the announcements. Got an announcement like that from somebody else recently. Um, can't say it. I know it's gonna go on video soon. I can't spoil it. It's a big deal. Bar Kwon just kidding, even though he I think he wants to. He's gonna do this body I really Yeah, Barkwon's doing a bodybuilding show and then he wants to make a run into Masters because he's gonna be forty. Oh oh my god, he's so old. He's old.
18:25 Good thing. I'm not old. You know, someone going from USPL to IPS. Maybe he'll just tell me after this, Maybe we do, Maybe we don't. Kay. Maybe in the future for me, damn world champion. I think it would be another like year two. You gotta get a couple of USAPL titles. Yeah, I have nothing. I haven't won anything. Not as well, quit with that attitude. Someone did a local meet and want a rack, a freaking power you have a thousand of corbo rack. Sorry, in the street Alpha Land, we call a rack a thousand dollars um. That would be cool too. I haven't won a rack.
19:06 I think there's local meets at pay now. You should just fuck nationals and just go to every local meet and just just go in cash you could grab. They would hate just chip your own lips. You know, they would hate me because like, what are you doing going to local meets like taking first? You're doing it for the money. I haven't won in this sport. Yeah, you're just gonna go whoop local eye. If I was like short on cash, maybe I would. I would. Well, here's the thing, if you have integrity, I don't. I don't know if you if people would really hate you or if it would keep them away from you, because like apparently you can go to meets and other gems and try to um play. Now I've got you your son of a bitch games with with how they run the meat and you take that to the federation and you get people in trouble, and then you get the honor of running the state meet and expect people to show up at your gym and apparently they will. So like, if you want to go around to local contests and just like chip your records, if you do whatever you want, you can do whatever you want. Yeah, that's true. Wow, that's a very specific example.
20:12 It was a very specific example. Strange how that you know may have actually happened in the real world. That's crazy, Nats. There's a bunch of like local power of the news. We talk about Warcats staying open and moving. Shout out to them for finding a way. Their next meet is next week, they're running a meet and then they are you guys want to go to that? Um, I've never been to Warcats to the last one. That's our second Saturday, same day. Yeah, never mind. Then where we can go after if you want to haul ass? Maybe is it to day met I don't know. Yeah, we can find a way, but shout out to them for finding a way. I just think it's cool when business owners are are pivoting and so I think they're moving inside of a bigger facility and doing like a co op deal. Um, you know the details are no, I think they just announced it on Instagram. We've done a lot in the community, especially for nor so like it's really cool to see them stay open. Yeah. I think they all have a lot in their personal lives and other business so yeah, you always got to pivot and find a way. But yeah, they're moving inside in the Bay Area. I was even talking to all about the Houston boys about like our rent and our numbers and what our overhead looks like, and they're astonished. You know, it is so much cheaper. Yeah, yeah, and so you take us it's more expensive here. Yeah, sure, everything's yeah, everything's bigger there and everything's more expensive here. Well that's actually I don't think we've talked about it on the show, but you know, I was just in Europe and the food is, you know, in the grocery stores, it's cheap compared to what we have, and we have like the greatest selection. Supposedly we're making it all and making it all, and it is cheaper there by far.
21:45 Same with Houston than what we're dealing with. I don't taxes and fucking subsidies, all this weird shit. So we're moving to Nevada or what. Maybe maybe there's a dog in Elko I want. I don't know who that is, Elco in the middle of nowhere. He's got a dog in that fight. Yeah, there's a Elko I think the north eastern part of Nevada where like no one lives. You want to go there? No? I mean maybe if you want to do some like buck hunting or something. No thanks, you could take Kyle come out a buck hunting. I do want to go on like an RV trip I'll probably be my next like real vac. Really. Yeah, it sounds like a lot of work. No, it's cool. I did one with Barton Geoe and the crew for six years ago. It's pretty cool. Pretty cool. You huh. We could probably roll once we get three hundred members. Dude, there's new Harry Potter ride.
22:34 We're gonna go ride? Oh my god. And I don't know. I think Florida, okay, yeah, but it's it's like you've seen Harry Potter. Yeah, you've seen Harry Potter. It's when I think it's from like the first episode when or the flying Motorcycle. Yeah, where Hagrid's on the motorcycle in the sidecar. The ride is a motorcycle in a sidecar. Yeah, it looks sick, sad. How do we feel about because they're rebooting I U for TV. It was scared they're gonna fuck it up. But I'm not a big fan of the three new movies anyways. And Fantastic Beef. Yeah, I don't know why. It doesn't feel kind of like Mandalorian at first. It doesn't. Although it's the same world, it doesn't feel it like there's not as much magic. I like that shit I like nerd shit, you know, like I like Lightsabers and I like The Force.
23:19 I thought there was a lot of magic in it. There's no teaching magic. Yeah, there is a good amount of magic either way. I don't know what I like the first one. The second one was flat, and the third one was terrible. So yeah, the tone just wasn't there for me. That was the same as the other episodes. Um. But I have a lot of faith in HBO because they've made insane series. Yeah you know what I mean, right, they have Ozark game at the Rones Barry right now, you guys are Yeah, you're not watching Berry and that's a huge mistake. Art Beef is it? I haven't watched anything. I heard that beef is really good too. Beef is it? Yeah? It's uh Stephen June and Aquafina. Yeah, Bart knows them both for some reason.
24:00 Of course he knows everyone. Yeah, but I heard the beef is really good. But yeah, I have faith at HBO. Harry Potter will be decent. That's what you talk to me about, right, Okay, Yeah, I really do. Hey maybe I don't know, but I don't know either. There's so much I want to see you, man, there is, so I don't know what the hell I'm doing these days, Like, how do I know have time to watch anything? They say the Nike movie is fucking sick. Everyone's told me that. Which one air it's about how they signed Michael Jordan. Yeah, I saw the odds for it. It's supposed to be all good. We're gonna do it on this show. When it gets to this, Sea Bass got a big hit talking about all the Nike list that they dropped, like one Kobe sneaker a year. I was texting all the homies. I text go to put in a raffle for me. I put my own raffle in and Sea Bass hit, what yeh far? Like a thousand dollars sneaker? What what? Oh my god, he's gonna be stopping around in the mama. That's crazy. Yeah, it's a cool sneaker. Nike's just good man Like, in't a crazy only fifty years old or something. Yeah, And they're by far, like probably the most impactful brand story wise in the history of humans in the world, right, Yeah, like insane, like Adida's is a little bit bigger overseas, I think, but it's it's insane. Their impact on sports and culture.
25:11 Everyone's wearing Nike. Yeah, no, it's everything. So they Yeah, they came out with the shoe to honor Kobe's daughter GG on her birthday. Um and his I think it's the Kobe four, maybe the five, but um, it's a cool little shoe. I'm sure it has things details as she likes that. I think as checkers on it. I don't know the story, but you know, yes, it's really dupe man sebast snag them. If if you could go back in time and change one historical event, would keeping Kobe off the helicopter be one of your things? Not necessarily that you would choose it, but like you had if you had a list of things, I don't know, you know, but probably here or Shema or something. I might stop someone's finger, Yeah, we don't need to kill people, or maybe like uh tell JFK to like tie your shoe at the right second, yeah, or like uh damn damn, or like uh tell Tupac not to go, you know to the Mike Tyson fight. That is kind of gets similar to Kobe. I don't know, actually I'm just slightly joking. I don't know, because there's so many big things. Yeah, you know, I'd probably want to go like save the dinosaurs, you would, it's just eating it. Have you not seen Jurassic Park or six of the Roswell Maybe go to Roswell? Would you will? What was it nineteen forty nine something like that? Just scared like want to change something obviously, like the big ones are you want to change for a reason, but also like it would just change the course of the world so much butterfly effect,
26:44 yeah, versus like I mean in comparison, I don't know. I don't want to say this because it's right. These people, well everything that you mentioned is like big historical, like I don't know, and Kobe obviously like is two bit um it's not maybe not on the same level as Hiroshuma enough obviously, yeah, um, so it's like a little less Okay, Okay, let's name all. Yeah. Maybe maybe I'm the one that finds Hitler and chokes him out asleep. Yeah, or like what was it the thing about him being a failed artist and then that, yeah I didn't know that. Maybe you want me to be buy his finger painting and tell him he's good, Yeah, and then you think I saved history. Yeah he was totally. He went to art school. He was totally an artist. And yeah, I'm not saying he was any good, but apparently wasn't or something.
27:29 But this is going to sound really controversial, but you know, one of the things that people say, um that's like a positive is like, and this is a joke because people say all the time, though, is that he kept the trains running on time having been in Europe. Like, the trains running on time's got a big deal. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you know, not it's a pro like fascist regimes or anything, but like the trains running on time in Europe, that's a big deal. I don't know what it has to do with Hitler. Well maybe maybe he set up the infrastructure. I don't I don't know. I mean, World War two brought so much growth in industry around the world. Yeah, you know, so we should have more wars. Probably we would expand. I dove deeper into Aliens on this trip too, because a moment of contact.
28:18 Yeah, I guess. It's one of the fucking most fire alien documentaries. And I try to go watch it, but it's rent and I'm just frugal, so I'm not paying three nine nine. We're talking about like the Aliens franchise, the Oh no, well, the government is like releasing hell of shit more things are yet if we don't know what it is, because they're just like why are we hiding this anymore? Joe Rogan had the director of that on, and this guy's been studying phenomenas. It's like the eighties. He's made like four movies, but he's been to Brazil and he's been like flying all over the place to get first hand witnesses. And there's one where like three sisters like a whole city, like I forgot what I think he said seven it's a seventy thou in person city and like literally half the city saw it. What was it? A saucer type deal? And then three or four of them saw the green thing? Oh really yeah, okay, so it's actually green and a blob and it has like weird being where do you think that come from? So the argument is like exactly that they probably saw one you think, so why else would we all like why is that the notor like unanimous what an alien stereotype of yeah? An yeah, Well the answer to that is because that's how popular culture has explained it, Like, I why is that because a lot of it is because of X files.
29:40 No, because I feel like it's before that. I mean it did start before that, but but X files really put it into the in the main maint maybe. Yeah, My point is where did that come from? But you go all the way back and maybe some motherfucker saw it it roswell maybe right. I mean it's like, you know the generic smiley face, the like that is a big and like unanimate but like why yeah, that was because the guy made it and then it got popular probably. Yeah. So the alien you never no, So, yeah, there was a military cat I think that died from like brain damage and weird stuff from being around this thing. There's doctors, this alien. There's doctors captured the alien. Yeah, the doctors captured it and did a biopsy. And I guess there's video of it that this guy's diving down. I think there's an actual video somewhere. It got really popular right now. The movie came out to a year ago, but it got really popular right now because in the movie, the director visits a guy who has I believe a film from the nineties of this alien, and he won't give it to nobody. So Logan Paul of all people drives out there people with one hundred thousand dollars or something. It says, give me that video, and the guy won't. And then I guess Logan Paul, which is kind of fucked up, has a camera on him, and now he has the footage of the footage. Oh now it's getting weird. Are you serious? Where that's real? It's getting weird.
31:00 And I guess you don't see it perfectly because it's filmed from the nineties and it's passed around, but I guess it's getting pretty crazy. And even the film director says he has pictures of shit that's we'll fucking blow your face off. And then what Rogan made him want to do it? I guess in the documentary he brings, you know, forty fifty sixty year old man back to the place where this happened, and the emotions on this guy even Rogan says, this is the best actor that's ever been on the planet. Or he's freaking out because something very traumatic happened at the spot. It had been thirty years since he went to the location of the incident, and this guy's wilding crying. I've been listening to this Strange Arrivals podcast and turns out that like during the pandemic, there were a lot of sightings in Africa of all places, and they talk about one where it was like at a school and there was there was definitely us something like there was a something, but whether or not it was terrestrial, nobody knows, but awthing. And then the kids um had kind of various versions of what they saw of a like person, like a living thing, and some people, some of them described it one way and some of them described it another way. And you think, oh, it's Africa, so they're in the middle of fucking nowhere and they don't have any experience with our pop culture and no, this is like a prep school and you know, I don't remember which country it was, like,
32:31 yeah, it's not No, I think I think these kids are white. Yeah yeah, so easy. Yeah, I want to watch the document They captured an actual organism, that's what they say, but the government side it also, who knows. But then this documentary guy's next move is to really get these doctors to come out and talk about it, because there's like three or four doctors. It's weird. I don't know what's the point in hiding it safety chaos. Like, I understand some reasons why the government like propagandas or hides things, right, because if they release that win it happened in nineteen ninety two, the entire world's going to go into you know, chaos, start killing each other and looting, hiding, right, so they'n get what the like the world thinks. It's like we had we had a really bad flu and motherfuckers started stealing toilet paper. No, yeah, that was papers calling for six months we had no eggs. That was pretty funny.
33:20 That was crazy. I remember one's like, why toilet paper? Imagine an alien? Yeah, we're that's true. That's why I shouldn't be in any position. That's why you're going to report that. Don't ask me anything because like I'm pretty indifferent kind of about it all. I'm like, oh, cool, soil, the green thing comes here and steals all your kilos? Well, then what what am I gonna do? It's just there's nothing I can do. If these things happen. Maybe they're your friend. Why because I do believe that that they're probably some bad motherfuckers, these aliens, and if they hated us, they'd kill us by now, Yeah, that is one argument that that settles my heart. Party if this stuff, if this stuff was dangerous, we'd be over Yeah, even though it sounds like some of these cases and they're big one as much military guys have like a certain brain damage from exposure, and it's numerous cases. So, but I don't think they're trying to hurt us. I think it's probably tech or you know, because because again, they're probably so beyond us if they are real, right, traveling to fucking Star Wars land, Yeah, like they'll just fucking murder us, right. But the other big consensus from the documentary is that they probably are underwater. What which we talked about in our last episodes, we did because they found like an ocean below our ocean. Dude, that's just scary. The ocean is scary. Well, you're more scared of an alien grabbing you while you're surfboarding or a Great White I don't go into the water like that. You're scared of the ocean. Kind of what's your biggest fear of deep water? Probably it's just like if you're on a boat and then you go in the water and you're just swimming. First of all, I don't know how to I don't know how to tread water. I'm thinking I'm a rock. I'm dense. Can you swim? I am not
34:52 a strong swimmer. Scale of one to ten, Michael Felt spin a ten bro I'm like a three's not too bad. I'm might. It's scary, but also like the fact that it's almost like you're floating in space, because like there's just emptiness below you and alien. Nothing is going to catch you. Aliens will catch you, the alien you're I'm done for it. Maybe they'll save you. My lungs will fill with water and I'll be gone. Speaking of Star Wars, they have like those masks they just put on their face and they breathe forever, so sick for what it like takes the oxygen out of the water. Oh yeah, it basically like fish gills for your face. But it's just a mask, so you don't need all Yeah, so you don't need all this scuba gear. You just put this little thing on you can Breathe must be nice. Yeah, it's also in Harry Potter kind of yeah, they like have the gills thing. Yeah when he does yeah whatever the potion. Harry's a smart cat. He kind of cheated that whole thing. I was a little disappointed in him, you know, he kind of cheated through the integrity, right kind of what was that one called Goblet of Fire Coblet of fright, Yeah, he kind of wiggled. I guess there's gray area because there isn't cheating in the Goblet of Fire because his life or death. But he did kind of finesse that competition because he's smart or he's but he's not. But they didn't say you couldn't cheat. No, that's what I'm saying. There's gray area for sure. Cheating is maybe the wrong word, but Harry Potter definitely finesse the fuck to win that trophy.
36:10 That's good. No, I don't like it, talk to him about it. Diggory was a little tougher and it Diggory's more my guy. Which was that one? The guy that dies? Right? Yeah? Yeah, he's played by somebody famous. Who is it? Um? He's uh yeah yeah Batman. Yeah, Batman died. Batman got his ass whooped by Voldemort. Batman's a plus. Well Batman has no special power, yeah, and Voldemort whooped that ass. Yeah yeah. Batman special powers is that he's an orphan. Yeah, he's a rich orphan. Yeah. Yeah, well it's his bank accounting emotions. So the Flash movie, yeah it looks decent. Yeah yeah, it hasn't come out yet, but yeah, he's he tries to the Flash tries to go back in time and save his family, and he offers to say Batman's family. Oh as well, there are also multiple Batman in this Batman anymore he probably no, no, it's old boy.
37:10 It's old boy. It's and Keaton and I kind of like the Batman's everyone hates, like Clooney, Yeah, with like Baine in a fucking Schwarzenegger. Uh yeah yeah, like those forever very nineties. Yeah, the Bain has like tubes of steroids gone through. He's like fucking He's in like a puff suit. It looks so fake. So not not Dark Knight right, not Dark Dark Knight Rises. I love talking about Batman and Robin so Dark Knight Rises in all those are obviously fantastic films, but the nineties ones are entertaining films. Yeah, so not good movies. Yeah, so the Robert Pattinson Batman and I and the um Joaquin Phoenix Joker yea or not in the main continuity of anything right or all there else world right? And they're doing another joker right yeah with Gaga and it's a musical. What's Goga's musical? What's Gogga's? People called, Oh monster, Yeah, I'm not a monster fan, don't care something something like that. Yeah, I'm not a fan.
38:20 Yeah, I don't really like a guy. Why not? Voice is okay? Music style is definitely too poppy for me. And then she looks kind of scary. Have you seen her purse? Like her interviews? I've hung out with her? What No, I haven't, Stephanie. I was trying to get her going. Well, okay, so back into he said it was cool earlier, I want to say, how cool you think I am? I don't know. I would have believed if you kept going back in the day if Poker faces about me, okay poke his face anyway. If you go back in time in my my um YouTube, you will see a reality show teaser that was shot in this building with with all of us who were in this building at the no. But like one we we had to do. We had to lay out up like eight potential episodes because this should almost happened. This would be like really close to happening, so they wanted scenarios and one of them was like one of the people who was going to be on the show. Her son was a Lady Gaga impersonator, and Lady Gaga was coming to the Bay Area, and that was like one of the episode ideas. So we would take the Meathead Powerlifters to see Lady Gaga along with the Sun who is a that's a weird so random, I know, but like you you're you're just not connected to the reality show era because that
39:52 would totally have believe it totally would have been a thing, not a reality TV. I feel like reality TV is still a thing, but it's like all dating, like those Netflix come out with blind Dating or this dating, you know what I mean. I love in twenty four Hours, but never watched those Bachelor Housewives whatever. I did Bachelor, like part of season one a price Skim, Kim Kardashian, Yeah, Kardashians were like twenty years some of that's good. Jersey short like, I've never watched Jersey Shot was mine. Georgie Show was, Yeah, that was It's so funny, It's so bad. Yeah, it's good. Honestly, I just like these people just annoy me. They just frustrate me. So I don't I don't watch it. I think that's the appeal to some people, right, Yeah, it's like cringe. Yeah, it's like hate watching. I don't like cringe.
40:37 I hate watch a little bit, kill it too much and some cringe. But you like, what's it calling? Like Office and Bad Girl or what New Girl? First of all, Old Girl the Office took me to tries to watch. It was so bad and say what the old girl? New Girl is it is? It's so funny. I can't do The Office. I've never been able to watch it. Yeah, because it's so it's so it's so cringe. Yeah, it's painful. Yeah, I can't do. There's some like old Ben Stiller movies that make me go like and they're funny, bro, but I'm like, oh, like which ones? Um? Look the what's like the even even meet the like the original Falkers or whatever it's called meet the parents. What's the first one you meet the parents?
41:17 Yeah? The first one you're watching that you're like, wait, meet the parents is before Meet the Fuckers. I think so because his parents are the Fokers. Know that there was a sequel thing. Yeah, they're all little, you know, like oh fuck. But the first one right, you're like kind of bought in and not know what to expect. And this because that was a remake. Yeah, and he's like breaking their nose. Yeh, watch water volleyball. That's good. So to jump back to Jersey Shore for just a second here, I heard a rumor of years ago, and I don't know what's really ever true, and I don't haven't asked about it, but I heard that Jim Wendler was tapped to help Snooky out with her fitness. Fitness possible, Yeah, I done it? Who's that? Jim Winler is an old West Side guy and the creator of five through One Yeah, and in our circles for sure. So did he do that or no?
42:12 I don't know. They probably would know that. I was told that he probably tried to put her under a barbell and they're like, no, we're good. She went well and sent it and you know he didn't do it in person because Jim doesn't ever go anywhere, so I'm not going to go to Jersey Yeah, so uh, let's ask AI and I did whether UFOs are real that that thing doesn't even know what sumo is that, and the answer is the question a. The answer to the question of whether UFOs are real is a complex one. There's no doubt that there have been many reports of unidentified flying objects over the years, and some of these reports have been very convincing. However, there is no concrete evidence to prove that UFOs are actually alien spacecraft. So basically, what they're saying is UFOs but maybe not aliens. One of the most famous UFO sightings occurred in nineteen forty seven, when Arnold reported seeing a group of nine strange object objects flying near Mount Rainier in Washington State. Arnold described the objects as being boomerangs and moving at this at speeds of up to twelve hundred miles per hour. This report sparked a wave of UFO sightings across the United States and still remains one of the most documented, well documented cases of UO activity. Activity. It goes on, but it probably exists. Whatever the probably something. My god, they're in the in the air, in the sky, in the water. No, yeah, I don't know. Possible, yeah, probably, but who cares. They're not messing with us. So I just to wrap things up, I have one important question. Do you think the aliens would pull sumo.
43:45 Nah, they ain't pussies. I don't think they would lift. They're going with their mind. They're lifting with their mind. How I want to talk about cheating? There's one case, Oh that this contact that's not cheating where they were talking to humans in the brains. What t telepathy? Telepathy? Yeah, m m, well maybe we should ask them as third party, what do you think it's fair for us humans? Happy May fourth, Ladies and Gentlemen. New episode Wednesday, Friday. When we can. We're doing the best we can. We got a lot going on three USB dot c If you want to support and rep good company, good Company, Discord dot com. Aby, Where can I find you? Um on Instagram at ave dot lou lu. If you're in Sacramento, come join Third Street hopping up one of Abby's classes, or if you want to actually become a savage hire for personal training. She is available in quire either on her Instagram or at the gym twenty ten Third Street, Sacramento, California. I'm selim like everywhere you want to find me. I am athey Jim mcdey on all the social media. This show is fifty percent facts or percent is a word in fifty is just numbers, fifty percent facts. As a speaker Prime Podcast in association with iHeartMedia on the Obscure Celebrity Network, I want to talk to you next time I need to eat, Sure, come back later. Do you
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