Aug. 6, 2025

Journey to bodybuilding | Guest: Riley Corbett

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Unlike some powerlifters who turn to bodybuilding, Riley always knew it was something he wanted to do. Other goals and priorities simply got in the way. When the opportunity came to leave construction work and retail management for personal training, he jumped in with both feet. Riley is our head trainer at Third Street Barbell. He shares the story of his journey to the stage in this episode.

You can find Riley on Instagram @riley_corbett https://www.instagram.com/riley_corbett/

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Because I've been recording several episodes in a row here,

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and anybody who's paying attention to the sound of my

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voice may realize that it seems like I've probably had

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a cold for about a month and a half of episodes,

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which is really just like a couple of weeks. But

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it just does not want to go away. I and

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and like the thing, this is my third round of

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just having constantly blowing my nose of the of the

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whole thing. It just just and I never get cold.

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It's probably been a good decade since I've had a cold,

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and this one just will not entirely go away.

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I heard this.

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Year the allergies are like next level for everybody. Yeah,

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and I haven't got them since I was a kid,

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And this is the first time where I've been like bedritten,

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just like stuffed up and just like feeling disgusting.

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Well, I typically couldn't tell you the difference between like

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a cold and allergies, but like I gotten to the

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point where this this was definitely a cold. It's like

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I had throat and it's just like coughing, and not

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that you can't know you can't not that you can't

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get coughing from from allergies, because you sure can people

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particularly have asthma. You know, do you have asthma? Now

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I don't. There was a time in which I thought that.

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I did sports induced or whatever I had.

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I had some kind of reactive airway syndrome, and that

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I had no idea where exactly where it came from,

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except I had like gastric reflex at the time, and

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like my sleep avenue was just getting diagnosed or whatever.

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So I think my airway was just like super irritated.

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Was this back in powerlifting with the back in the

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day with gear and everything so pretty heavy?

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Yeah, there was that. And I had another instance where

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my son and I pulled down a shed in the

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backyard and I just like flooded myself with with a

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like dry mildew, and I, like Scot said to it,

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So that's kind of like always had year round allergies,

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but now they really have here around allergies, had allergy

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shots the whole nine yards. It's like, you got better.

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I can live with it, but it's not fun.

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Yeah, just sound a little funky for a while. Yeah.

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Yeah, I'm here today with Riley Corbett, our our head trainer,

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here at at third tree Barbe. Riley's been around us

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for a long time.

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How many, like over ten years or probably over ten years.

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Yeah, you were you were in Mike's class.

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Yeah, yep, Mike and Marcus.

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Here or at the west Side.

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And west Side, yeah, the second one after this one. Okay, Yeah,

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so I was over there and uh yeah, started training

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with everyone, and then eventually it just started coming in

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more and more and started lifting.

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And I have to say that you look dramatically different

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now than you too. Yes, back then, even five years ago.

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If I get really ambitious, I'll throw a picture up,

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but I probably won't because you were. You were in

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a couple of photo shoots when we started the apparel

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line when we win, like even before the gym opened,

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and it's like you were pretty chunky.

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Yeah, definitely pushing the bulk back then. I was getting

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into the strong man stuff. I pushed my weight pretty hard.

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So I was in the two fifties when I'm only

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five eight, So it's yeah, it was pretty chunky.

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But yeah, definitely lost a lot.

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You're only five eight, you always look taller to me.

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I appreciate it. I'll take that one.

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I can get it. How told you see bass uh,

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five eleven Okay, yeah, seeh I believe that, but I

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don't think in my mind, I don't think about you

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being dramatically different heights the two of you.

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I'll take it five to eleven, then we'll take it.

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Yeah, I would take it. You know, I used to

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be like over five eight, you know, like five eight

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and a half ish whatever, and I'm five seven because

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I'm old number one and just like the squatting oh yeah,

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just like compresses your disco discs. Yeah, no space, no,

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no whatsoever. So was where you are now? You're you're

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actively competing in bodybuilding? Now was this always the goal

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or so?

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Yes?

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And no.

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The whole reason I got into working out in general

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was you know, to look like a bodybuilder, and you

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know everyone wants to be more jacked and all that stuff.

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So that was my initial focus. Was I was training

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just you know a lot of hypertrophy, you know, six

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days a week in the gym, still kind of eating

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whatever I want. So I was, you know, eighteen to

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twenty something, so I could get away with that kind

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of stuff, and I wasn't putting on that same weight.

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But the older I got, and then I started switching

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into more kind of you know, after those first couple

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of years, those newbie gains die out, that bodybuilding training

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is a little less fun. So I kind of had

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to switch my focus into some strength training to kind

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of keep my progressions going and kind of liked it.

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But then at that point it was like, Okay, do

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we stay the same size or are we going to

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try to push those lifts a little harder.

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And that's where the weight gain came.

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From, just constantly chasing those next numbers up and then

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you know, just kept going.

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So I just kept rolling with it.

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Yeah, And that was at the time too, that was

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actually very that was still pretty common.

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It was yeah, the whole the main gaining and all

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that wasn't a thing back then. It was bulk, get

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as big as you could, get huge and.

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Live your life.

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Yeah, I mean Dave Tate was talking about people, you know,

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eating sleeves of oreos and butter and just like all

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sorts of things in order to put on weight.

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Yep, my posts workout four times a week. When we

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were training out there, I'd go because we had that

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in and out right around the corner. Oh yeah, so

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I'd go right into the parking lot get my two

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four by fours animal fries, eat that in the car,

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and then I had about thirty minute drive home, and

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then I had my beef and myron, my rice and

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all that stuff after. So it was a constant just

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eating twenty four seven whatever I could get my hands on.

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Yeah, like any idea how many calories that was versus

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how many you're you're consuming now.

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I always estimated it at around like four to five thousand,

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but uh, you know, now that I've been you know,

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more focused on this bodybuilding stuff last year, I pushed

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my off season to about almost like five thousand calories,

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and uh, you know, the amount of food I was

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eating was definitely twice as much as I was eating before.

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So it sounded like it was a lot. But I

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don't know if I was just eating.

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So much, you know, fatty foods and stuff, and I

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was just getting a ton of calories, but it sounded

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like a lot more at the time.

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Yeah, it was maybe this composition of those glories of

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for sure, it was. It was the issue, for sure.

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So when did you make this switch?

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So right at the beginning of COVID, I got a

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colon infection. So the colon infection came on like out

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of nowhere, and just one day I woke up felt

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a little sick, decided I would go to the gym anyways,

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did some squats. I think that day we were repping

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like four sixty five or something, and made it through

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the whole set fine. The end of the workout, I

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was just not feeling good. So that night I went

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to the hospital and I couldn't pee or go number two,

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so they thought I had an inflamed prostate. So they

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put me on some antibiotics, had me go home, said

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if it didn't get better, and like two days, come

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back two days later. Still was just getting worse and worse.

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But at that point, you know, I'm a stubborn dude.

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I was, you know, mid twenties. You know, I'm not

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going to the hospital twice in three days or whatever.

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So I kept saying, I'm good, I'm good, just waiting, waiting,

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and you know, that fever just kept creeping up, creeping up,

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and then got to the point where I was, you know,

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over one hundred and four, and I was the girlfriend

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I was living with at the time. She was like,

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we're gonna call an ambulance if you don't get your

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ass to the hospital.

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So she called my mom.

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My mom's calling me freaking out, and so ended up

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going to the hospital again. And by the time I

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got there that time, I was in bad shape, already

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going septic.

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So it was like, shit, got really.

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Am I allowed to cuss on here started getting really

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serious really fast, and then so yeah, everything just kind

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of came out of nowhere. So I had to have

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emergency surgery. And then after that it was like no

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lifting for a while. So at that point there was

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no real, you know, reason to try to keep being

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big if I wasn't going to be lifting heavy. Yeah,

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so that kind of started the process where I was

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kind of controlling my food a little bit more, and

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then I started getting back into the swing of things,

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started pushing it a little more, and then I tore

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my latin here dead lifting like five eighty five. And then,

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you know, after that, I was like, you know, let's

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take a break, reassess what we're doing, because I can't

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keep taking time off work for injuries like it's you know,

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it's it's not a realistic thing. So I had to

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kind of change focuses a little bit, just started kind

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of cutting down, and once the fat started coming off,

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I realized I had a decent amount of muscle underneath.

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So it was like, all right, let's see what we

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can do now. So that's kind of how the whole

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bodybuilding thing got started.

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That's interesting because you don't even like physically, don't even

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look like the same person at all. Like I can't

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even I can't even you know.

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I think now I walk around at I mean, right

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now I'm a little leaner because I'm cutting down before

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I push up again. So I'm about one ninety right now.

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So that's you know, sixty pounds difference is pretty pretty noticeable.

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Pretty significant, Yeah, for sure. For sure. Who did you

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look to for for information when you made that shift?

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You know what? Honestly a lot of it was just

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you know, stuff on the internet.

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You know.

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I've been you know, in the game for a long time.

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So throughout the years, I have manipulated my weight, you know,

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competing and you know, I would I think I've done

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one eight, one ninety eight, two twenties, and two forty five.

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So throughout that time, I've kind of had a pretty

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good understanding of nutrition and how to kind of change

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my weight to where I needed it to. So from

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that point it was just kind of like researching a

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couple of nuanced things of how I can really dial

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that in for my performance, because you know, once you

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get into the whole restricting calories, it's all pretty straightforward

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from there.

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Yeah, So once I kind.

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Of had that dialed, it was like, how do I

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really kind of step it up another level, make sure

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I'm getting the nutrition I need to really kind of

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fuel my training and kind of make that you know,

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next level change.

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What is what is your current program look like versus

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what you used to do.

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So, like back in the like powerlifting and strong man stuff,

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I would usually only train about four days a week,

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and those were obviously going to be super long sessions

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just because you have so much to do, you know

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if you're squatting, benching or you know, doing your log press,

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sandbags all that stuff, So training for two or three

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hours of session, so you're definitely getting in a lot

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of work, but it's not the same. So my initial

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focus was trying to get into the gym more and

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just try to you know, not do as long as workouts,

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but just kind of little stimulate and kind of get

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out at first and then once I kind of adapted

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to that, I kind of started adding more and more volume,

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and then it kind of became a thing where how

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can I get in like the most amount of volume

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I need per each body part while still being able

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to recover. That was my biggest problem when I kind

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of first started this whole stuff. I'd, you know, try

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the bro splits or like a push pull legs, but

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you know, it's if I'm doing too many sets throughout

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the week. I noticed, you know, when I come in

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three days later, I'm still not able to kind of

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move the weight that I really needed to. So kind

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of finding that balance for how much volume I can

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actually handle throughout the week and still feel good for

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my next training session, that was kind of the biggest

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determining factor. So now I train about five to six

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days a week, but my workouts are a little bit

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more condensed. I'm kind of just getting after it the

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whole time.

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Shorter rescip.

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Yeah, just kind of more you know, basic stuff, kind

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of more what you just see like bro kind of

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you know, bodybuilding stuff, pretty straightforward for the most part.

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What are your your favorite lifts.

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These days?

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These days, I kind of just go with whatever feels

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really good, So it changes from you know, month to month.

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I think right now, I'm really into like, uh, you know,

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like certain flat machine presses that are converging, and yeah,

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you know, certain pendulum squat machines feel really good. But

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you know, I'm more about just whatever I can kind

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of feel the best and comfortably move weight. That's kind

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of ends up being my favorite things now on not

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about you know, what I move the most weight in

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and what looks the coolest.

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How I mean, how individuals do you think it is?

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I mean, do you do you think that you can

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like not that back in the day when when when

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workouts were published in bodybuilding magaziness, not that you could

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rely on that being the thing that the person actually did.

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But how how possible it is just to take an

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off the shelf program and get where you're trying to

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go or is that just like step one toward figuring

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out what you actually need to do?

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So I'm like personally under the belief where like I think, whatever,

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like you whatever you can kind of push yourself towards,

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like you know, you you are your own kind of

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limiting factor with this kind of stuff, because I mean

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the biggest thing is how hard are you going to

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push it? Because you can give you know, ten people

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the same program and they're all gonna get, you know,

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pretty different results. But at the end of the day,

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you're gonna notice that there's gonna be you know, three

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or four people in there that are probably pushing at

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a different level than everyone else. And I think that's

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gonna be the biggest determining factor is how hard you're

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actually trying in those I think a lot of those

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programs that you can just find off the internet, probably

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for eighty percent of the population, they're going to work great.

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But the real kind of thing is like how hard

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are you actually trying in those workouts? Yeah, because it's

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it's really easy to go through the motions, but are

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we lifting with intent? Are we actually trying to get

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better every session?

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Those kind of things mm.

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Hmm, Yeah, that makes sense. Who are you working with

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at this point? Like what kinds of clients are you

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working with right now?

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I have a pretty giant mix of kind of a

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little bit of everything. I got, you know, clients in

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their eighties, and I have clients all the way as

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low as you know, eleven years old. So wow, got

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a pretty big range kind of working with anybody. So

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whatever people have problems with, we can usually get them sorted.

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But what, obviously a parent's going to be involved and

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within eleven year old one, what what's the goal there?

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Is it a sports thing or is it just a

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getting better shape thing? Or well?

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Well, now what like a lot of it is now

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it's a lot of these kids just aren't playing sports.

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So now that they're not in sports, you know, they're

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just playing a lot of video games and they're not

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getting outside. So a lot of parents now are just

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taking the initiation to be like, hey, we're going to

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put you in personal training, get you at least move

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in a couple of times a week, just to get

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you on that path. I think people are starting to

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really realize now that there is a lot of importance,

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you know, staying moving and actually getting that exercise in.

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So if you're not going to be playing sports, we

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got to do something.

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It's funny how the pendulum swings, you know, because they're

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there for a while, it's like, well, I mean we

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all know that that that school's cutting out like pe

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and sports and stuff was a bad idea. And at

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the same time we have this huge rise in the

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diagnosis of ADHD. And it's like, well, you're not giving

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kids anything to do. They got to run around, that's

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I mean, right, they've got you've got to burn off

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the energy somehow. And yes, it's it's great to see

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that a parent would recognize that, hey, you need to

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get up off the couch. That's it seems like such

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a cliche, but it's like true, it's it's it's sad true.

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And actually, you know, use your body, create some physical

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effort beyond what you're doing with your thumbs and you know.

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And it's a you know, it teaches them that, you know,

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they are capable of more than they think.

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That's the biggest thing.

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Yeah, that's I mean, yeah, I would, I could see.

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I can see how that would be a big deal

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because it is easy to It seems like there are

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sort of two mindsets and not just kids, but like

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people period. Either people think that they can't do X,

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or the other people who think that if they just

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did X, they might be really good at it. And

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they might be, you know, like and and there's an

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ego weird thing there. They might ever actually do it,

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but they think that would be good if they did.

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And yeah, Yeah, that's definitely definitely a thing too.

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Yeah, that's the thing that we all deal with it.

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And then you're working primarily with clients in person.

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Yeah, I do some online, but for the most part,

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most of my clients are in person.

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Right now.

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Yeah, you've been giving me stuff to do and it's

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been getting me back into it. But I had this

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conversation with somebody the other day about whoever they were

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working with, and like, yeah, what do you get this

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After a while, after a few weeks, you start thinking, well,

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not that I know more, but I want to do

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this differently. It's being done yeah, and not you know,

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I mean, not that there's anything wrong with it, but

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it's just like, well, I'm used to maybe heavier weights,

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and I can't do those heavier weights for ten for

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a set of ten. I can do them for five,

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but I can't do it for ten. And it starts

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to morph and and I guess that's sort of a

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natural process too.

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Yeah, everything's gonna always change, you know, your training is

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not always gonna be the same throughout your entire life.

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You're gonna have different flows of things. Yea, injuries are

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gonna come, life events are gonna happen. You're gonna have

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to switch things up, and the more you can adapt

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to those things, the overall better off you're gonna be.

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Yeah, you know, I think that that's true.

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You know a lot of that too is you know,

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if you can just stick to those kind of basic things.

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A lot of people get into that, you know, habit

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where they do want to change those things that their

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coach gives them. But then, you know, if you're constantly

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changing everything so often, there's no way for us to

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track progress, right, So, like we do need to stick

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to those things for a long time, and people don't

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like that, and I know it's kind of boring at first,

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but it's that kind of discipline of doing the same

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thing over and over and over again that's where we

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really get better.

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Yeah, For me, Like, i know I'm going to be

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out for two and a half weeks or so, and

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I have no idea about whether I'm going to actually

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how often I'm actually going to get to a gym,

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And historically, like I haven't really worried about it too much,

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but because I've been kind of back on a role lately,

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Like you don't want to keep that momentum yeah, you

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want to keep the momentum going. It's not like, oh

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my god, I'm going to lose all my games. But

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in a way, it kind of is, you know, you

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don't want you don't want to like fall into that cliche,

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but at the same time, like it's a habit and

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you have to, like you have to keep the happening,

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you have to keep the happy, you have to keep

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it in the groove. And that makes it, you know,

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disconcerting when you just can't can't do it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's just so so we'll see what my mental

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state is like script I managed to accomplish and just

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time to like this is like I'm traveling and I'm

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going to feel like shit for the first couple of days.

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Yeah, because I mean you're going to be moving, so

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it's not like you're doing nothing. Yeah, so exactly exactly.

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It's just it's not what I'm not I'm used to,

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just totally out of the routine. Yea, how were you

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What do you feel about step counts? On it during

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the day with with clients, what do you what do

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you tell folks?

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Yeah, I'm huge on steps, so you know, getting in

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those at least you know, ten thousand steps a day.

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We can burn a ton of calories that way. So

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even throughout most of my cutting, I mean, I'm down,

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I think twenty five pounds or so down on this

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cut right now, and I haven't done.

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A single day of cardios.

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So I guess my ten thousand or some days I'll

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maybe do twelve if I need to burn a little extra,

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depending on how my weight loss is going. But yeah,

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I keep it around ten or twelve thousand, and I

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usually know with that amount of walking, I'm probably burning

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around four to five hundred calories a day just for

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my active movement. So at that point, you know, that's

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you know already what I'm gonna get more out of

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that than I am thirty minutes on the bike. So yeah,

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it's a lot easier to do that way if I

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just take a couple, you know, ten to twenty minute

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walks throughout the day after my meals and just keep

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it easy that way.

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I have to say that I have lost any fascination

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I ever had with walking on a treadmill. I will

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do it, but I have it's like, oh my god, Yeah,

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it's it's a slog, whereas like walking outdoors is not

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a slog.

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No, it's way easier, way easier. You get to, you know,

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change the environment.

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See a little bit visual stimulation.

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That's huge.

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The temperature isn't always better, but some.

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Yes, that's why I during the summer months, I got

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my walking pad, so I just kind of throw it

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in the corner of the living room. I pull it

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out right in front of my TV and just do

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like ten to twenty minutes while I'm watching TV. Then

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park my ass back on the couch. You know, at

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least get a little bit of movement if I'm going

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to be just kind of hanging out all day. So

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when it's one hundred degrees, I still try to get

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it in.

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So you were you're working in construction before, right, Yeah,

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and then you shifted to training, Like how did that happen?

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Was that?

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What was the Yeah?

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So I got into doing construction right out of high school.

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And then when I was in my early twenties, me

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and my younger brother we started our own construction company

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with our dad, and so we did that for years.

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But during the whole time of the colon infection and everything,

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I wasn't allowed to lift like more than fifty pounds

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for like six months or something like that. So construction

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was one hundred percent just out of the question at

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that point. So I kind of had to pivot and

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figure out what I was going to do to you know,

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get money in my pocket. So I was managing a

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couple pubs and stuff for a little bit, but I

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just you know, wasn't the move. Didn't enjoy it at all,

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So I.

475
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Could see how it would be a pain in the ass.

476
00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:11.680
Yeah, pain in the ass dealing with drunk people and

477
00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:15.240
you know, upper management was terrible. So it's like, get

478
00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:17.799
out of that, trying to go back to working for myself.

479
00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:19.880
And then it was like all right, I already knew

480
00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:23.279
that training something that I'm passionate about. I love bodybuilding,

481
00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:26.160
I love powerlifting, I love helping people. So it was

482
00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:29.079
kind of just like a natural progression that like, this

483
00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:31.200
is what we know we like doing. Let's see if

484
00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:34.319
we can try to make money doing that. Yeah, you know,

485
00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:36.079
so that's kind of how that kind of went about.

486
00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:40.319
Yeah, did you did you do SERTs or did you?

487
00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:41.039
Yeah?

488
00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:47.000
So years ago, probably mid twenties or so, I went

489
00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:49.440
through the whole NASSAM certification to do all that, and

490
00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:52.359
I was going to start start training, but I just

491
00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:54.480
never wanted to kind of pull the gun and just

492
00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:56.759
actually start doing it. It was kind of always one

493
00:22:56.759 --> 00:22:58.359
of those things with one day I'm going to do it.

494
00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:00.480
One day, I'm going to do it. And so he

495
00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:02.519
finally was just like, all right, it's the time we

496
00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:06.119
got to do it. So yeah, But other than that,

497
00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:08.519
it was just you know, my basic certification, and then

498
00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:12.880
I'm constantly trying to soak up whatever information I can get, so,

499
00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:16.920
you know, constantly listen to more podcasts, you know, reading studies,

500
00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:19.440
you know, trying to figure out what's the new information out,

501
00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:22.599
what's working, what do we know that's not working anymore,

502
00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:24.039
you know, all that kind of stuff.

503
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:30.599
So you're you're obviously, like, like like every everybody who's

504
00:23:31.519 --> 00:23:34.519
getting started in bodybuilding, you have like a goal in mind,

505
00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:38.400
and most of the time the goal is a pro card, Right,

506
00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:43.400
what's the what do you feel like the mental prep

507
00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:45.039
is around that for you?

508
00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:49.039
So for me, I try not to I mean, obviously

509
00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:50.880
that is the end goal. You know, I'd like to,

510
00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:53.119
you know, get that pro card and establish you know,

511
00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:55.799
if I could actually step on stage as a pro

512
00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:57.559
and see how I hang with some of the best

513
00:23:57.559 --> 00:23:59.559
guys out there, and you know, that'd be awesome, but

514
00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:01.960
I try not to put too much pressure on that

515
00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:04.200
kind of stuff, take it day to day, show by show.

516
00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:07.519
So my first goal was just to step on stage.

517
00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:09.720
And you know a lot of people have that goal

518
00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:12.759
of just stepping on stage, but I wanted more than that.

519
00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:15.039
I wanted to not just step on there and just

520
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:17.640
do it. I wanted to, you know, look like I

521
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.960
belonged up there. I wanted to look like a bodybuilder.

522
00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:21.799
I didn't just want to show up and get my

523
00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:24.920
participation trophy. I wanted to go in there and you know,

524
00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:27.920
show that I belonged. So that was my first goal,

525
00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:29.960
is I tried to just go in there and just

526
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:32.839
bring my best look that I possibly could. And then

527
00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:35.079
after that, you know, it kind of showed me that

528
00:24:35.319 --> 00:24:37.519
I do kind of have the structure. You know, I

529
00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:40.839
brought in you know, super lean physique, so you know,

530
00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:42.839
I think I could probably do it. So that was

531
00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:45.359
just going to be keep trying to level that up

532
00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:46.839
and just see what we can do.

533
00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:51.359
I feel like, you know, in power lifting all the time,

534
00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:54.519
we see people who were just getting started or whatever

535
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:56.960
who were reluctant to commit to being in a meet

536
00:24:57.400 --> 00:24:58.920
because it's like, well, I do want to wait till

537
00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:03.799
my lifts get better or whatever whatever. And in powerlifting

538
00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:04.920
that is totally not.

539
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.680
The right choice, completely opposite.

540
00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:09.880
But in bodybuilding it is the right choice. Here, I

541
00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:11.599
think I think you're making a good point. It's like

542
00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:13.640
you want to you do you want to go out

543
00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:16.720
and look halfway legit at least right. You want you

544
00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:18.880
want people to be able to not and say, oh, okay,

545
00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:22.000
I get it. I understand why you're why you're pursuing this.

546
00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:28.799
Did you go to bodybuilding shows before you started being

547
00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:29.440
in them?

548
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:32.559
Actually no, so never been to one before, and it

549
00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:36.000
was quite a culture shock, coming from only being in

550
00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:39.279
powerlifting meats before, where it's just you know, you know,

551
00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:42.599
chunky tatted dudes eating candy all day, smelling like Ben

552
00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:45.319
gay and stuff. Then you go to a bodybuilding show

553
00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.359
and it's just completely different. You know, everyone's pretty closed off,

554
00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:50.680
you know, no one's really talking to each other. It's

555
00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:54.240
it was quite a different you know, vibe on everything. Yeah,

556
00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:55.880
it was, you know, I had a good time, and

557
00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:58.359
you know, it was it was definitely an experience for sure.

558
00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:01.160
But I always tell everyone and the people you meet

559
00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:03.480
at like powerlifting and strong man events, they're going to

560
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:07.640
be like the most genuine coolest people ever. Sometimes you'll

561
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:09.720
get some cool people in bodybuilding too, but I think

562
00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:13.000
it's a little bit different of a crowd, but you know,

563
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:16.079
it's a little different. But yeah, it's definitely a different

564
00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:17.119
between the two for sure.

565
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:20.000
It's Yeah, that's interesting that that that that kind of

566
00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:23.400
level of camaraderie doesn't really happen as much. But part

567
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:26.920
of it is just like people are maybe more in

568
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:27.759
their head.

569
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:29.720
I think, so, yeah, there's I think there's a lot

570
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:32.799
more of a mental aspect to bodybuilding, just because especially

571
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:35.640
in that last little bit, you know, you you're starving,

572
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:38.160
you know, you're miserable, you don't want to be there,

573
00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:40.759
you want to get food. So I see, you know

574
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:43.759
the the reason behind it, for sure, But it is

575
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:46.960
a totally different vibe when everyone's at a powerlifting meet.

576
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:50.519
You know, everyone's pretty, you know, happy, go lucky, you know,

577
00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:59.839
kind of relaxing. But it's different out a bodybuilding show.

578
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:02.799
You tolerate the tanning part of it. It would just

579
00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:06.119
drive me nuts, Like I don't like anything on my

580
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:07.160
skin in the first place.

581
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:09.119
That's the worst part of all of it. You gotta

582
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:12.039
go and go in a room with like ten to

583
00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:14.680
twenty other dudes. You're just sitting there naked, and they got

584
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:17.079
to get all up everywhere, spray you head to toe,

585
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:19.599
and then you gotta dry off. They're all sticky and

586
00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:22.799
gotta go back to your hotel or your house. You

587
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.240
can't shower for that night, so you'd be all stinky.

588
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:27.480
And then it's real gross when you go the next

589
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:29.960
day and then you're posing on stage, just sweating into

590
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:31.519
that stink, and it's gross.

591
00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:32.640
It's terrible.

592
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:35.640
I hadn't really thought about that that. That totally makes sense.

593
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:37.880
Because once you get that tan on, you can't shower,

594
00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:40.359
You can't put anything on your skin, so no deodorant,

595
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:43.480
no nothing, And yeah, everyone's stinking real right back there.

596
00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:48.680
It's gross. Good lord, it must be like it must

597
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:50.200
be like the County Fair.

598
00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:52.519
Exactly, going to the four age area.

599
00:27:52.640 --> 00:28:03.359
Yeah, everybody smells like sheep and goats, cows, horses. It's crazy. Yeah.

600
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:05.839
In terms of you know, we talked about a broad

601
00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:08.079
range of clients, like what are your favorite kinds of

602
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:09.000
clients to work with?

603
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:12.720
So for me, my favorite type of client is anyone

604
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.559
that comes in and just gives me one hundred percent. Yeah,

605
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:17.519
if you come in, you give one hundred percent, no

606
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:20.240
matter where your fitness level's at. I can tell if

607
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:22.880
you're giving me one hundred percent. It's pretty easy to tell.

608
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.440
If you know, if I can see that you're really struggling,

609
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:27.079
or if you're not breaking a sweat at all and

610
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:29.279
you're talking the whole time, we can we can tell.

611
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:32.319
So you know, if someone's in here and they're coming

612
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:34.519
every session and they're giving me everything they.

613
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:36.000
Have, those are my favorite.

614
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:37.720
And that's the most I can ask for, is you

615
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:40.039
just put in one hundred percent of the effort to

616
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:42.119
the you know, the program that I'm going to give you,

617
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:44.000
and just trust that it's going to do the results.

618
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:46.400
And then you know that those type of people are

619
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:47.759
always the ones that are going to have you know,

620
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:50.319
the most progress too, so it's kind of you know,

621
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:52.880
they end up working the hardest and they kind of

622
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:55.039
get that validation after, so then we both kind of

623
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:55.839
feel better after.

624
00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:01.240
You know, you would think that the money would be

625
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.400
a real motivator so that people would like stay on

626
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:05.279
track and know.

627
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:07.599
You would think that you'd be surprised.

628
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:12.680
Yeah, I guess so it's like I guess psychologically, sometimes

629
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.480
paying the money sort of checks the box for some folks,

630
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:17.839
you know, and like you pay the money and show up,

631
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:22.000
but you don't really necessarily emotions. Yeah, you don't feel

632
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:26.599
like it's required that you like really really push yourself. Yeah,

633
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:29.640
And I think that it's unfortunate, but it's.

634
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:30.680
It does happen, for sure.

635
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:32.759
I mean, I do have my clients that I have

636
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:35.599
some clients, especially at my commercial gym that I train

637
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.079
out of. You know, they pay their money. They come

638
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:40.200
in once a week and that's the only time they

639
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.839
touch the gym, and they think that's going to be enough.

640
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.839
But you know, at least we're getting in one day,

641
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:47.720
but we should for sure beginning in more.

642
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:48.839
Yeah.

643
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:51.319
But you know, one's always going to be better than nothing.

644
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:53.720
So you know, we got to get you doing something

645
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:54.680
at least.

646
00:29:54.759 --> 00:30:02.119
Yeah. Yeah, and age range or doesn matter, you.

647
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.799
Know, for the most part, it doesn't matter. I've had

648
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:08.960
eighty year old clients. I have one of my clients

649
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:12.039
that she actually just you know, she's going off doing

650
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:13.640
her own thing now, but she was with me for

651
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:15.240
maybe six to eight months.

652
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:16.839
Her name was Miss Susan.

653
00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:20.720
If she listen to this somehow she's awesome. But yeah,

654
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:22.880
she would come in twice a week, and you know,

655
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.440
she'd get after it, and you know, it went from

656
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:27.359
her barely being able to you know, get on and

657
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.119
off up a box to where she was squatting with

658
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.920
you know, fifteen pound dumbbells, you know, just completely change

659
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.160
how she moved throughout the day. And you know, when

660
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.119
you hear those things of a client being like, you know,

661
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:41.480
I'd always had this problem when I get off the

662
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:43.839
couch and it takes me forever to get warm, and

663
00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:46.599
my knees hurt all the time. And after a few

664
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:49.119
months where they're telling you like, hey, you know, like

665
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.200
everything that I'm doing nothing causes me pain. You know,

666
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:55.079
everything feels great. You know, I'm carrying all my groceries

667
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.160
by myself. You know, that's an awesome feeling. And so

668
00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:00.680
like when I hear that, you know, that always just

669
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:04.039
kind of validates everything. So it's always the clients that

670
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:07.480
you know, get the most where you know, obviously I'm

671
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:10.599
gonna have a little bit more kind of bias towards

672
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:12.680
those ones because they're obviously working a little harder, you know.

673
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:17.799
Yeah, yeah, And I mean strength gives people agency, especially

674
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:19.720
as you get older. You know, if you're if you're

675
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:22.200
strong enough to be able to do things yourself and

676
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.559
you don't actually have to ask for for help all

677
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:26.599
the time, even.

678
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:28.640
That independence is huge as you age.

679
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:32.279
So yeah, yeah, speaking of someone who's getting old, I

680
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.799
do occasionally ask people to do things for me that

681
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.440
I don't want to anymore, usually involving ladders, having fallen

682
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.440
off a couple in the past few years. Yeah, I

683
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:46.720
just yeah, yeah, no fun at all. Something you and

684
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:53.960
I have talked about reasonably extensively offline is UH, clients

685
00:31:54.000 --> 00:32:00.319
on GLP one agonists. How what have you observed in

686
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:03.079
with those kinds of clients.

687
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:09.480
So from the things that I've noticed, those GLP ones,

688
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:12.200
they're a great tool to add to our diet and

689
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.599
training that are already in place. But they're not gonna

690
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:18.319
be like a magic thing that everyone is anticipating. You're

691
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:20.920
not just gonna take that shot and lose fifty pounds

692
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.880
in three months and then gonna be a completely different person.

693
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:26.839
There's gonna be some type of lifestyle changes that are

694
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.039
gonna have to happen in that we're gonna have to

695
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:32.000
do something differently. So a lot of those people that.

696
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:34.079
You know, I do have some clients that get on

697
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:37.839
these GLP ones and you know, they're really reluctant to

698
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.559
change the way they eat, and you know they're so

699
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:42.720
one of the biggest problems is you're gonna have that

700
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.160
you know, your gastric empty and is gonna slow down.

701
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:48.039
Your metabolism is gonna run a little slower. So all

702
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:50.480
that food is gonna definitely make you a lot fuller

703
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.640
for longer. And what a lot of people do is

704
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:56.200
they'll have, you know, a tiny little protein bar for breakfast,

705
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:58.440
and then for dinner they're having a salad, and then

706
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.119
they had five hundredalaries for the day. And they think

707
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.279
they're good because they're you know, not hungry. But then

708
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:07.359
the reality is, okay, well, now that we're jurassically so

709
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:10.440
under our calories, our weight loss is not just going

710
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:12.200
to be fat, it's going to be muscle as well.

711
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:14.440
So a lot of those people, they're you know, not

712
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.400
having the weight loss that they expect to have because

713
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:20.039
they're just not making sure they're being fed properly.

714
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:22.759
Yeah, that's the biggest issue that I see.

715
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.799
I mean, I've had clients lose eighty plus pounds with

716
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:28.359
them so they definitely work, but they do need to

717
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:29.839
be used a little bit responsibly.

718
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:33.000
Yeah, I mean, I've been this is sort of a

719
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:36.880
bit of theme lately, but I find that a lot

720
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:38.680
of people are that's really weird.

721
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:40.839
The wind or something.

722
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:45.160
I have no idea, that was a little little earthquaky thing.

723
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:46.839
I don't know, know. The lights aren't moving, so it's

724
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:49.279
not that I don't know. I'm not When I move

725
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.599
it doesn't bump the monitor. I don't know what happens

726
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:56.599
are they're just being given these drugs. My analogies like

727
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:02.599
people depressed people getting any depressants but without any any

728
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:08.679
emotional support, talk therapy or anything like that. That doesn't

729
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:11.800
make sense to me, but but it's it's kind of

730
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:14.360
more common than not. And I think that that's happening

731
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:17.360
with the GLP once too, where they're just not getting

732
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:24.679
the the lifestyle change support. And you know that the

733
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:30.800
worst thing isn't isn't the idea that you might stay

734
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:33.679
on the drug for the rest of your life. You know,

735
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:37.280
whatever your the drug is. The worst thing is that

736
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:42.039
you have lost too much muscle or your your diet

737
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:43.199
still sucks.

738
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:46.519
And so when you're still taking this drug for no

739
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:46.960
other reason.

740
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:49.960
Yeah, for no other reason, the fact that your diet sucks. Yeah,

741
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.320
it's just you're just taking it so that your your

742
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:53.320
diet can be terrible.

743
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:55.599
And you know, I try not to be super cynical

744
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:58.400
and you know, get into my conspiracy theorist mind about

745
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:01.000
you know how much of that is the you know,

746
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:05.840
pharmaceutical whatever just pushing those drugs onto people. But every

747
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.079
time I watch TV, I think I see about five

748
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.800
different commercials for different GLP ones and stuff.

749
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:12.639
So it is crazy.

750
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:16.519
You know, they do work, but they definitely need to

751
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:18.440
have some responsibility to them too.

752
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:23.039
Yeah. Yeah, and everyone is just looking for the quick fix,

753
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:28.199
the quick fix. The thing. I actually I saw this

754
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:29.800
the other day. This is just in terms of like

755
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:38.880
revolutionary drugs that UCLA has developed this molecule that reawakens

756
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:43.960
hair follicles, so it's essentially a cure for baldness.

757
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:44.559
There we go.

758
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:49.400
It's like wow, like in I mean, I don't know

759
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:51.800
how long it's going to take to get like f

760
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.599
they approved for this, but in like five to ten

761
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:58.159
years when we when people are bald, it's going to

762
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:02.519
be by choice. Yeah, Like what in the same way

763
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:05.880
that you know, the the GLP one and what's the

764
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:09.719
other one, the other hormone that that is in like

765
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:13.840
uh agonists that they use in like zip bound and

766
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.760
that's the grellin Yeah, g IP.

767
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.159
Yeah, g i P and then yeah, some of them

768
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:22.920
will I think it's the I think that's the redit

769
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.800
true tide. Does the g IP, the grellin and the

770
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:27.920
g LP one or something, So yeah, it does like

771
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:29.119
a triple agonist on it.

772
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:32.360
As these drugs improve, that's where I was. As these

773
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:36.880
drugs improve, then maybe just being fat will be a

774
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.960
question will be a decision as well.

775
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:42.800
I mean, well, yeah, they have those myostatin drugs that

776
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.559
they're starting to run through some phases now that I

777
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:49.039
mean seem pretty promising in animal studies, but I mean

778
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:51.480
you never know with humans. But I mean, if you

779
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.920
can get a you know, myostatin and hibberw that just

780
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:57.000
allows you to build muscle without doing anything, and then

781
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.960
you have some advanced GLP one that melts the fat

782
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:03.719
off you in the future, I mean, there's probably gonna

783
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:05.960
be a drug that just, you know, ten years where

784
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.360
you just put on muscle and burn fat while sitting

785
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:08.840
on the couch.

786
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:14.280
It's you wonder about the the physiological effects of that, because,

787
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:20.639
like I mean, people who who take steroids, sometimes you

788
00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:25.159
find that they muscle growth way out strips the ability

789
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:27.760
of their their tendons and ligaments to keep up, and

790
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:33.639
you start popping tendons and having surgeries and reattaching things

791
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:37.440
and one thing or another. I wonder if that'll be

792
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:37.960
the case.

793
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:38.920
I'm sure it will.

794
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:42.159
I'm sure there'll be some type of new problem that

795
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.239
we'll see with you know, stuff happening.

796
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:47.360
There's always kind of a it's always kind of a

797
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:49.880
zero sum game, you know, where you know you.

798
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:52.079
Can take for something. Yeah, you're not just gonna get

799
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:55.119
a free ride to getting skinny and jack with nothing.

800
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:57.079
Which sucks, because that'd be great.

801
00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:58.119
Yeah, that would be awesome.

802
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:03.719
I I am always amazed by I mean, the people

803
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:11.440
still still use the the morphology, you know, the three classifications,

804
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:18.400
you know, the metamorph and morph Yeah, all that stuff,

805
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:22.960
because it's really it describes something, but it doesn't mean

806
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:27.199
anything at the same time, but there are people who

807
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:33.199
just don't put on weight, either muscle weight or fat

808
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:41.360
at the same pace as everyone else, and and that's frustrating.

809
00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:43.920
But those people are are often frustrated because they're not

810
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:45.239
putting on on muscle.

811
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:48.320
But then at the same time, you know, from my

812
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:50.840
you know, from what I've seen of you know, doing

813
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.519
this for a long time, there's so many of these

814
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:57.039
skinny guys that say they can't get bigger. They're really

815
00:38:57.079 --> 00:38:58.519
reluctant to really try.

816
00:38:58.320 --> 00:38:59.039
To push the food.

817
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:01.480
Yeah, and at the end of the day, we can't

818
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:03.199
get bigger if we're not going to eat. And I

819
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:07.280
know that's super counterintuitive to what the Internet says nowadays

820
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:09.320
because there's that main gaining stuff.

821
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:09.800
Or whatever that is.

822
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:10.800
I don't even know what that is.

823
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:13.480
Yeah, it's basically guys just try to eat at a

824
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:17.199
maintenance level of calories and try to make gains that

825
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:18.760
way so they're not putting on fat.

826
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.920
But I mean so like a kind of like I

827
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:25.960
don't know, like a worsk thing.

828
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:29.400
Yeah, maybe, or maybe just like a super tiny deficit

829
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:32.480
where they're not going crazy. But I mean, at that point,

830
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:34.559
what are you gonna do, like do that for two

831
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.559
years to see any type of progress? I mean, what

832
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:38.599
are we really doing here?

833
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:41.440
You know? Yeah, in terms of progress, like how do

834
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:45.920
you deal with I'm sure it happens for strength, but

835
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:48.239
I know what happens for weight loss. Where people are

836
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:52.280
just getting stuck. They're just not not not progressing at

837
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:54.239
the speed that they want to, or just don't seem

838
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:56.360
to be progressing at all, Like what do you what

839
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:58.519
do you say? What do you wit your council?

840
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:02.599
So there's a there could be many different things. You know,

841
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:04.960
for some people, it could be as simple as maybe

842
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:07.280
we just get in some more steps. So for a

843
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:09.320
lot of people, you know, if they are kind of

844
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:12.199
exercising more, that getting in that step count might be

845
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:14.599
the last thing that they're going to do. So the

846
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:17.119
first step maybe just getting into the gym three times

847
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:19.000
a week. So you know, if they're getting into the

848
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:21.079
gym three times a week, you know, we're doing something

849
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:23.280
at least, but we're still not burning those kind of

850
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:25.360
calories throughout the day in the week that we need to.

851
00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:28.039
So for some people, just kind of getting in those

852
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:30.199
extra steps throughout the day might be able to do

853
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:33.960
a little something. For some people could be you know,

854
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.480
stress related, what's you know, your sleep looking like for

855
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.360
their stuff like that. There's a lot of different nuances

856
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:42.480
that can come into you know, stalling with your weight

857
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:45.239
loss and progress. But a lot of it is going

858
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.639
to be kind of person to person individual on what

859
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:49.360
kind of stuff they have going on in their lives

860
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:49.800
and stuff.

861
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:55.639
Yeah. Yeah, that's I mean, not making progress is a

862
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:58.480
big reason why people quit doing things. Yeah, you just

863
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:00.960
don't have the feedback loop.

864
00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:03.039
Yeah, and that's why it's you know, important to have

865
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:05.239
a trainer or a coach or someone who can give

866
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:07.280
you that feedback and being like, Okay, well if this

867
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:10.199
isn't working, now it's time to pivot. So like you

868
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:11.920
got to always kind of you know, know what the

869
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:14.280
next move is gonna be. And if you don't have

870
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:17.119
that knowledge yourself, you're gonna just keep hitting those plateaus.

871
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.119
Yeah. And I mean, obviously it isn't always about scale

872
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:26.320
weight for sure, and you just you most people are

873
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:31.360
not checking in on their lean mass versus body fat

874
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:35.960
on a super regular basis and this or at all,

875
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:38.440
and that the scales that use impedance are just not

876
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:40.960
very accurate, and you know they can be.

877
00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:43.559
Yeah, you can get like a ten to fifteen percent

878
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:45.159
variance on some of those. Yeah.

879
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.079
Yeah. And and I don't know the last time I

880
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:51.039
saw anybody have calibers used on them.

881
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:51.239
Yeah, I.

882
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.679
Know. And I still have a set from the from

883
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:59.159
the like late nineties at home somewhere. They were kind

884
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:02.599
of cool because they would like they would snap when

885
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:06.400
they gotten Yeah. Yeah, well that's sort of I mean,

886
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.800
that made sense to me. But it's hard to do

887
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:11.000
on yourself for sure, and.

888
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:12.920
It's paining the ass to do on other people. They

889
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:13.559
don't like it.

890
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:18.000
Yeah, yeah, no, sure. So it's like you know underwater

891
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:20.239
way did that a few times back in the day.

892
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:21.559
Yeah, now they got the decks on.

893
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.519
I've done dex that. Yeah, And and DEXA is like,

894
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:30.480
I mean, the underwater stuff is not painless. The dex

895
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:31.159
is painless.

896
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:33.519
Yeah, the underwater is probably gonna give you a little

897
00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:34.800
bit more accurate read on it.

898
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:36.760
But that's what I'm saying. You don't have to dex that.

899
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:37.480
You just lay on the.

900
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:41.360
Table super and it tells you, like where you're, where you're,

901
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:43.920
It gives you a full X ray all that, where you're,

902
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:47.880
where you're, where your fat is stored, and you know whatever.

903
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:53.599
I was talking to friend last night who was saying

904
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:56.880
that his his gym did a big like ninety day

905
00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:58.760
fat loss challenge.

906
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:00.559
It's happened a lot right now the summer.

907
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:04.599
He's skinny guy in the first place, but he you know,

908
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.880
he dropped a fair amount of weight. I don't know

909
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:09.880
how many pounds it was. But then he went in

910
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:12.320
and got a dex and it's like, oh, all, nearly

911
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:16.559
all my fat now is visceral. Yeah, I'm over fifty

912
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:20.920
and you know, full of visceral fat, and that getting

913
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:24.559
rid of that is just super challenging. Yes, I don't.

914
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:29.960
I mean, there are they talk about, like the stubborn

915
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.639
fat loss protocols around like it's like hit and this,

916
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:38.960
that and the other thing to try to get get

917
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.719
rid of that stuff. And I mean, I don't know.

918
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:45.079
I mean, that's that's really my demon and has been

919
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:49.119
for a long time. And I don't know. I don't

920
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:52.679
know what because I'm you know, the process of losing

921
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:55.159
weight currently, I just don't know like where I'm going

922
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:57.599
to land and how bad that's going to be. I

923
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:01.559
will go back and get another Dexa and see where

924
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:05.480
that stands. But like I had, I had one a

925
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:07.679
few months ago, and I hadn't had one for like

926
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:11.159
seven or eight years, and what had changed during the

927
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:14.880
time was that, you know, thirteen extra pounds of fat,

928
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.880
my lean muscle moss was exactly the same. There you go,

929
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:19.719
But it was all just fat.

930
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:23.039
Well that's that's fun at any muscle that's good.

931
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:26.039
Yeah, yeah, probably, Well I was, you know, it was

932
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:29.880
also heavier. I was, you know, about thirteen pounds heavier.

933
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:35.159
So I just gained fat. Apparently that's uh, you know,

934
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:41.159
unfortunate happens, unfortunate fact of life. Yeah. Yeah.

935
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:43.039
Do you.

936
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:49.880
Have you had clients like leave because of like circumstance whatever,

937
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.519
you know, work or life or whatever.

938
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:55.599
Sure, yeah, that's usually people's first thing that you know,

939
00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:58.280
personal training it is going to be a little bit

940
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.400
of a pricey investment. So a lot of people their

941
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:04.039
initial you know kind of qualms about everything is that

942
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:06.679
kind of payment. But you know, I try to be

943
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.559
pretty affordable with people and work with people where I can.

944
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:12.199
But you know, if we're gonna say we're gonna spend

945
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:14.599
you know, three hundred dollars a month on personal training,

946
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:17.719
if you go out to the bar, you know, three

947
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.559
weekends a month, yeah, you're easily gonna spend three hundred

948
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:22.360
dollars if you have going out with a girl or

949
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:25.199
something else. You know, that's only a few drinks, that's

950
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:26.960
you know, the short night, you're gonna spend a hundred

951
00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:29.000
bucks especially if you've got to pay twenty bucks to

952
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.639
get in somewhere. I mean, so I try to always

953
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.239
tell people that if this is something that we really

954
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:36.199
want to do, and if this is a really important

955
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:38.559
goal to us, that there's gonna have to be some

956
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:40.639
sacrifices that we're gonna make somewhere else.

957
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:42.599
And so if we can make those.

958
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:46.159
Sacrifices towards something that's only going to be putting us

959
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:49.639
into a you know, worst direction, like going out spending

960
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:52.559
twelve dollars a meal on fast food three times a week,

961
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:55.079
or you know, going out to the bars on the weekends.

962
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:57.559
Cutting out those things right there and just kind of

963
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.920
reallocating some of those funds to something that's gonna, you know,

964
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:04.320
improve your quality of life is kind of the biggest

965
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:06.719
kind of how I try to let people see that.

966
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:13.000
Yeah, Yeah, And then have you had circumstances where people

967
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:16.320
have sort of left, like fallen off the wagon and

968
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:17.119
then come back.

969
00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:22.039
Yeah, For the most part, I try to keep people

970
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:27.440
with some type of guidance. So I always tell my

971
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.599
clients that the more times that we're in together, touching bases,

972
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:33.880
getting face to face, like, the overall better progress we're

973
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:36.639
gonna make and then as we progress, you know, we

974
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:39.000
don't need to be you know, doing that face to

975
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:41.480
face as much. The more they learn in the gym,

976
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:44.360
the more comfortable they are doing stuff on themselves. But

977
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:46.400
it's still good that you know, we touch base, you know,

978
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:48.320
at least once a week to check in and be like,

979
00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:51.159
how's it going, you know, is there anything we need

980
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:53.639
to change? You know, how's your week been? Like, are

981
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:57.119
there any things that's happening differently? And so that way

982
00:46:57.199 --> 00:46:59.840
you always have that feedback to where you know, they

983
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:02.679
can always keep something to where they're still moving in

984
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:05.000
the right direction. At least I try not to have

985
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:08.440
someone completely go away and then try to come back,

986
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:11.599
because then at that point they've probably regressed a little bit.

987
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:15.760
Yeah. Yeah, it's amazing how fast, like if you've been

988
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:18.840
committed in the past, how how fast things will come back.

989
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:23.639
But it but it sucks because you you you always

990
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:26.159
have to end up starting it at like ground zero again.

991
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:27.559
But muscle memory is a real thing.

992
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:29.920
Muscle memory is a real thing. Yeah, it's just it

993
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:33.920
takes a little bit of consistency to kick back in. Yeah,

994
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.559
for sure, I have a a couple of like just

995
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:42.519
like food related questions. To wrap things up, one of

996
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:46.079
everybody's biggest challenges is just getting enough protein. It's it's

997
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:49.440
people people who have no idea how much protein that

998
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:53.639
they need. Uh, and most people are just not getting

999
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:56.880
enough number one and number two when people actually trying

1000
00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:00.440
to get it, it's it is challenging. Yeah, it's probably

1001
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:03.559
one of the bigger challenges. What what what do you do?

1002
00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:05.880
What do you what's your life?

1003
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:08.880
So what I always want to do for most people

1004
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:11.599
is I initially want everyone just to start off with

1005
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:15.039
just tracking what you eat normally for a couple of days.

1006
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:17.840
So when people initially do that, you can probably see

1007
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:19.599
right off the back that their protein is going to

1008
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:21.800
be a little bit lower. So one of the first

1009
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:23.719
things that I try to do for clients is I

1010
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:27.599
don't try to jurrassically change calories or anything. I just

1011
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:30.559
want them to focus on eating more lean proteins throughout

1012
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:33.000
the day. So for like a breakfast, I try to

1013
00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:35.719
have them focus on, you know, either like a Greek yogurt,

1014
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:39.840
way protein, some eggs, something like that, where they're going

1015
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:42.000
to be getting a good hit of protein in and

1016
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:43.760
then for lunch or dinner, we're going to be doing

1017
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.719
like a beef, turkey, chicken something where it's a lean

1018
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.159
protein like that, and then I try to have them

1019
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:51.079
do that at least three or four times a day,

1020
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.760
and then throughout the day in between, if they're in

1021
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:56.280
their car driveing to and from the gym or something,

1022
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:58.800
that's where we can have a protein shake or a

1023
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.519
protein bar to get extra you know, twenty to forty

1024
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:03.679
grams in there. But a lot of it is just

1025
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:06.639
kind of trying to get that focus of making your

1026
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:09.880
meals around a protein source instead of just being like

1027
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:14.280
I'm having spaghetti today, I'm gonna have, you know, a

1028
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:17.440
piece of chicken with my pasta, you know, and try

1029
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:19.719
to rearrange the meals a little bit to where they're

1030
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.760
just focusing on getting more protein throughout the day. But

1031
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:24.960
for me, one of my biggest tricks is I just

1032
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:27.960
you know, every time I eat, I'm gonna be getting protein.

1033
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.000
And so I eat five to six times a day.

1034
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:32.360
Every time I eat, I want to be getting at

1035
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:34.920
least forty grams of protein. So that's kind of just

1036
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.000
how I make it easy. And then you know, if

1037
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:38.960
I need a shake or two to kind of balance

1038
00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:41.000
some stuff out, that's where those come into play.

1039
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:43.840
You know that used to be the eating five six

1040
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:47.960
times a day was it? It had like a different

1041
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:50.880
rationale under it. It was like a thermic effect of

1042
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:56.000
food and like or keeping tabolism going the tabolism all

1043
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:59.360
that stuff. And I think that the practical reality of

1044
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:03.559
it is, if you're trying to hit certain macro goals,

1045
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:06.599
it's difficult to do that in three meals a day.

1046
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:11.360
Yes, the feeding window is important. So if you're not

1047
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:14.719
kind of spacing out all that protein throughout the day,

1048
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:17.199
and you know it's five o'clock and you have one

1049
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:19.679
hundred and fifty grams of protein left, it's going to

1050
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:22.159
be really hard to condense all that down into one meal.

1051
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.000
So if you can spread all those out throughout the day,

1052
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:27.440
it's going to be a lot more manageable. And then

1053
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:30.000
when you're in a chloric deficit, if you're eating five

1054
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.159
to six times a day, you're going to be eating

1055
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:35.039
really small meals, but you're going to constantly be eating

1056
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:37.639
every three to four hours, and you're way less likely

1057
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:38.679
to be hungry at that point.

1058
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:42.599
Yeah, that totally makes sense. The other one is a

1059
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:45.000
discussion that we've had before, and I know you've you've

1060
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:48.800
had it on your social media too, that it's always

1061
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:52.639
been a you know, like chicken, broccoli, rice scenario for

1062
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:58.599
the body building diet. But rice has its issues and

1063
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:03.199
there is a very easy substitute, yep, and that's potatoes.

1064
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:04.480
Yeah, potatoes are great.

1065
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:06.559
So one of the first things I do for a

1066
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:10.280
lot of my clients when we're gonna deficit, I try

1067
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:12.480
to get them eating you know, more volume. So if

1068
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:16.599
we can do more things like sweet potatoes and potatoes

1069
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:20.239
like a squash, even like a butternut squash, stuff like that,

1070
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:23.400
where you're gonna be getting in a very large volume,

1071
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:27.079
but you know, very small amount of carbs. Fifty carbs,

1072
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.440
and rice versus potatoes is quite a substantial difference. So

1073
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:32.880
if you're noticing that you're hungry throughout the day and

1074
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:35.159
you're eating a lot of chicken, rice that kind of stuff,

1075
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:37.960
switching some of those out for a potato, it's not

1076
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:40.960
only going to be more micronutrient dense, but it's gonna

1077
00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:43.079
give you a lot more volume to fill your stomach.

1078
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:46.320
Yeah. The the thing about rice, they always say, you know,

1079
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:48.559
while they talk about Chinese food, like you eat it

1080
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:50.400
and you're hungry, again an hour later. Part of that

1081
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.679
is you're eating a bunch of rice and it's just

1082
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:53.920
like super digestible.

1083
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:54.280
Yeah.

1084
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:56.920
Rice is awesome because it is a great carb source

1085
00:51:56.960 --> 00:52:00.239
and we do metabolize it really well. But that's kind

1086
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:01.840
of the other issue with it. It's going to just

1087
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:03.960
go in and you're going to digest it immediately and

1088
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:05.519
be hungry in a couple of minutes.

1089
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:09.480
Yeah, now that part sucks. Well. Obviously you're around here,

1090
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:12.360
so you'll be back show, but I appreciate you coming

1091
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:15.119
in today. Of course, where can people find you Rally.

1092
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:19.840
Instagram, just Riley Underscore Corbet and Yeah, or if you

1093
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:21.760
want to email me for some training, you can reach

1094
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:25.760
out to Riley at three SB dot co.

1095
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:28.360
Cool. I'm at the Jim mcdone of those social media.

1096
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:30.119
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1097
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:32.599
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1099
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1100
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