Nov. 5, 2025

Larry Wheels with John Gaglione | The Power of Resilience

Larry Wheels with John Gaglione | The Power of Resilience
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This is something of a follow-up to episode 491 with John Gaglione about the training environment. This time, Larry Wheels, who was coached by John and has become an iconic figure in the fitness world, joins (from Russia!).

In this conversation, Larry Wheels Williams discusses his journey in powerlifting, emphasizing the importance of resilience, communication, and mental preparation. He reflects on the setbacks he faced, particularly the feeling of bombing out of competitions, which ignited his determination to succeed. The dialogue explores how effective communication with coaches and teammates can enhance performance and the mental strategies that athletes can employ to prepare for competitions.

You can find Larry on Instagram @larrywheels https://www.instagram.com/larry wheels  

You can find John on Instagram @gaglionestrength https://www.instagram.com/gaglionestrength/  

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All right, looks like we're running here.

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Welcome.

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I've got Larry Wheels and John gagleone with me this morning.

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We're recording on a Sunday and right after the time change,

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so nobody's body knows what time it is right now.

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That's that's clear. That's clear. How are you guys doing today?

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I'm doing all right. I'm still in Russia. I fly back.

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I start my journey back home tomorrow with a stop

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in Istanbul for a day and then finally missed and

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bolt lax.

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Wow, I had no idea you were in Russia.

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That's great, all the different time zones.

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Yeah, but what time is it there? It's ten o'clock

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on the on the Pacific Pacific daylight time. Now what

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time is it there?

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It's nine pm here?

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Nine pm? Oh my goodness. Yeah. And John is in

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what you're in the Eastern daylight zone.

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Yeah, so that's one.

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Even since moving, you know, I still never got out

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of that time zone, so stuck in the same time zone.

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But yeah, like we had we had a like I said,

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late late night as well. But it'll be good energy.

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It's good to have, like, you know, it's kind of funny.

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I think like part of when we all first got together.

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It was kind of I think a big breaking point

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for like all of us in our kind of power

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Loopton careers, if you will, if that's such a thing.

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So it's just cool to like, you know, get everyone

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kind of back together and hop on and catch up.

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Yeah, yeah, for sure, it was. We're talking about it.

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I mean, you guys were on the old podcast like

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in twenty sixteen ish, So I think it was like

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maybe before Larry's world record maybe.

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I think I think I've kind of for people that

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are watching the video after the I'm wearing his shirt.

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So I think the first time after the two forty

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two record was I think when we kind of all

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got together. I think, or it might have been. Well,

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so I don't know if we talked about this last

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time or not. So Larry had the world record for

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like about zero point two seconds, and then Andrew Herbert

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like and then they both ended up missing their last deadlift,

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so Andrew Herbert had it for right, yeah, eight weeks

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or so, and then we kind of went back to

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the you know, the record breakers meet at a combat

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sports academy and then we you know, Larry retook it

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back and kind of upped it by like a big

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margin and kind of stood. That record stood for quite

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quite a while. And like I said, if not for

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some accidents at the at the current US Open, it

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would have been you know, set even higher. You know,

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you know, I guess we could all like talk a

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little smack and whatever, but but Larry was on pace

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to kind of up it more, and then we kind

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of decided that he kind of out grew the two

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forty twos. But yeah, that was kind of the first

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the first of many runs at many world It was

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a good, like like a good five year like kind

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of run at like world records and different weight classes,

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and that was kind of like the start of his

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kind of powerlifting rain if if you will, you know.

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So, Yeah, yeah, it was a different time in lifting

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for sure. I mean we I think that we discussed

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the last time that that people lifted more and cruise

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like you had people around you, even if you were

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at a certain point, even if you were a raw lifter,

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and being lifting in gear pretty much required having people

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around you because you had to get in and out

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of the stuff. I mean, it was it was challenging.

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You didn't have the help and didn't have the spotters,

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and you were, you know, handling weights that you would

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handle raw. It's a it was a whole thing. It was.

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It was just this that flavor of the sport demanded

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having people around you for the most part, and just

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it was a different time. I don't know now it

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is it's hard to put together a crew. I see

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and like I own a jim and I see people lifting,

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but they come in like when they have time and

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not not Okay, I'm meeting so and so and so

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and so and so and so, and we're we're going

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to lift together on the same bar, We're going to

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change plates in between, we're gonna do all that stuff.

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And now it's like it's a little bit a little

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bit of a lone ranger situation for most of them.

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Yeah, Lar, do you have any like memories of when

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we kind of first started training together at in Farming?

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Do I know, even our first like workout together there

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was like multiple seven hundred pound deadlifters in the room,

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which was so what was that kind of like for

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you at just being nineteen year Because I'm sure you,

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even as strong as you were, you probably never seen

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or trained with guys like that in that type of environment.

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So what was that like for you?

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Just kind of starting out kind of a young young

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man and just trying to, you know, find his way.

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Sure, So it was a mutual friend of ours, Kevin Oak,

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that introduced me to John. We went out there there

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for a delive party and I was spoiled at that

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time because I always had a work up part in it.

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Since my first day in the gym. I always had

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a strong support from a community. Everyone wherever I was

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training was very keen on helping me out and wanted

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me to succeed. And oddly enough, now I'm thirty, have

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my own gym. I've never went longer and it did

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more training sessions alone in my life, and it's definitely

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been a compromised to my training and my ambition. And

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it's something that I took for granted at that time,

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something I thought was just normal and I didn't realize

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how I shield the community I had was And now

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I'm more fired up than ever to bring that back.

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Yeah, I can understand that. Like now, I work out

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alone because I'm not doing anything that anybody's going to

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be interested in. I'm not trying to powerlift, I'm not

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doing competition lifts for the most part, you know, so

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I can handle it and I got you know, I'm

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managing my time or whatever. But I do miss those days,

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and especially I miss, uh sort of the challenge you know,

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of of not necessarily keeping up with people, but like

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like keeping her just the same distance I guess between

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between myself and somebody else and maybe just like inching

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up on a little I was so I was so

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much older and just not like a not at all

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a competitive lifter before I before I started. I mean

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it was over forty when I when I started lifting,

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And I don't necessarily recommend people waiting that long, but

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uh yeah, I mean you were you were young when

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you got into this this uh this whole sport. Like

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what question I have? We were I think we talked

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about this last time, John, that like it is difficult

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for a young person to sustain a career in powerlifting

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or I mean a lot of a lot of sports,

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but it's it's difficult for someone who has early success

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to keep going because the improvements become like incremental over time,

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and the injuries mount, you know for sure, because if

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you're pushing it like hard all the way if you

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could tell yourself something about those conditions when you first started,

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if you could like speak to younger Larry, like, what

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would you tell him?

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I would tell younger Larry what I tell everybody that

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asked me for advice I expose or at the gym

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or in passing to just stick to the program. The

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only time I ever got injured or didn't peak properly

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was when I went off program for attention because the

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crew was hyping me up because I was impulsive. Powerlifting

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is a game of restraint. It takes immense amount of

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self control. When you walk in the gym, you feel

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like Superman. Everything feels extra light, and you have to

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tell yourself, no, I can't push my limits today. And

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pushing the limits is the fun part. And I believe

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that's why many people love bodybuilding, because you can go

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into a bodybuilding workout through set to ten, twenty thirty

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to failure and really push your limit every workout still

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get progress. But you do then powerlifting, you're seeing us

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won't recover. Your train will be compromised, right Like, you

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have to stick to the program and hold yourself back

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when you don't want to. And I've struggled with that

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since day one.

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Yeah, I could remember a time curious, Larry, what if

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you could pinpoint it? But like there was definitely like

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the early days where maybe listening was was not really happening,

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and I know you bombed out of a few meets,

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but then when you got that invite to boss the bosses,

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I feel like a switch kind of flipped. And then

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so I don't know if that was the kind of

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the defining moment, but can you remember, like when do

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you decide okay, like maybe I should you know, start

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like kind of you know, being a little bit more compliant,

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communicating a little bit better, maybe you know, listening to coach.

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You know what was that kind of like? And then

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it was there any kind of moment you can kind

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of remember where you're like, Okay, let me give this

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a shot and.

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Then you know kind of see what happens.

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Well, bombing out of those meets is what really sparked

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that fire for me to take this more seriously and

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understand the importance of good communication with you, John, and

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how just a strong discuss with that feeling of damn,

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I didn't even get to finish the meet, and I

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spent so many weeks or whatever. It was months preparing

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for this day and I couldn't even finish, you know.

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So there's no worse feeling for a power lepter than that, right,

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bombing out, not even making it to the end. And

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I never wanted to feel that way again.

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Having bombed in a few meets myself, usually on the

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squad always geared just not and depth, always on depth,

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you know, just like you just can't get down to

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a certain point. And I think that you know, part

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of part of that was was you know, the weight

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that you needed to gain to be competitive in the

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in the equipment, and then the way you had to

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cut to make weight for the meat, and then what

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you know, when it comes back on, where does it

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go right? And and so your stuff fits differently and

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you can't can't get down. But I feel like you

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were an extension of a time where like uh Stan Efforting,

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you know, kind of took the took the stage in

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two thousand and nine ish twenty ten and and was

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very strong obviously, but was also you know, had aesthetics

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to his physique where he was you know, Dan Green

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another one who who always you know, looked more like

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a bodybuilder than a powerlifter that a traditional powerlifter at

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that time, Well, what did you always have like a

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dual drive about how you looked at and and how

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how strong you were or was it was it one

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and then the other or.

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Yeah. I always wanted to maintain, maintain some level of

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a build their aesthetic because I knew that's what would

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make me stand out from all the other powerlifters. And

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that's how it can make a steak for myself in

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the sport, besides taking with records, and I understood that

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to try and make a business out of it, it

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would be easier, you know, if I look the part.

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You know, if I had APP, if I had APS

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and I was able to look I was lifting, it

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would be easier to stand out. So when I was

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actively competing, although I did frequently have cheat meals and

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slip up on my diet, it was pretty clean. I

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was having chicken bee fish with lots of rice, and

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that was my diet for a long time. Especially when

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I turn off that switch and I said, okay, now

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it's time to lock in and get ready for competition,

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all those bad habits usually went away. It's only when

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I was in the off season and I'm not actively

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preparing for a goal. Did I just have no motivation

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to eat clean, to train hard, to be smart, and

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bad habits get the best of me, and it's time

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to prepare for competition that switches on and down.

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Then I'm amazed at you know, our our gym has

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kind of a majority of younger, sort of twenties thirties

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USA pl or Powerlifting America lifters. And because they don't

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have the luxury of twenty four our weigh ins and

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and and all, their their weight is pretty consistent all

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the time, and they all look jacked. They don't necessarily

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look like bodybuilders, but they look they all look fit,

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they all have abs. It's it's it's disgusting, really, it's

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it's like, how are you? You know? And then you

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remember that they were young, and that they they never

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really they never really put on those extra extra pounds.

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And we have one competitor who who dropped a weight

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class in the last year or so, and he didn't

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look bad before, and now he's just shredded all the time.

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And and.

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You know, some of them start to get the you know, like,

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oh maybe I could compete in bodybuilding, and then you know,

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that's that's a totally different experience for them. It's not

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you know, they're not chasing chasing numbers the same way

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that they are chasing what happens in the mirror. So yeah,

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it's just it's an interesting contrast to to when I started,

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you know, twenty years ago.

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I think you mentioned Stan.

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I think he was definitely instrumental in both of our

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kind of learnings of nutrition, especially you know, obviously vertical

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diet got really popular used by a lot of strength athletes,

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and we definitely took notes learned a lot from him.

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And what's really interesting as well, you know, obviously Eric

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kllilla Bridge is really famous. You know his that was

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a three o eight record that Larry Brooke, but some

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people may not know the two forty two record that

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was broken was originally obviously Andrew Herbert. Boy he's been

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doing to bodybuilding as well, but the original record was

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John Rivers. And John Rivers actually just turned pro with

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well he's out in Virginia now, so we actually got

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to So it's just kind of funny to seeing all

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these guys come full circle. So there definitely is like

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a little bit more crossover that I think we're seeing

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with some of these like high level powerlifters sometimes either

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transitioning over full time or kind of dabbling a little

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bit in both. And obviously Stan was like the most

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you know, famous example, and I think before then, you know,

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we got our information, like you know, we had the

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Oreo Challenge, the.

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Dave Tate Dave Tate's Oreo Challenge, and then you know,

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like J. M.

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Blakely, like put alve oyl on pizza and you know,

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you know that those have at MSG to your Chinese

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food or even more so, so you get hungry again.

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I mean that was kind of like the knowledge that

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we kind of and like kind of the older generation

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of the gearedlifters just got get as bloated as I

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had a trading partner my first benchure. It was a

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guy Chris Taylor, and he taught me along with Vitie

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descendso taught me how to bench and a shirt. And

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Chris Taylor always would he would drink like a leader

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of like Coca Cola so that he would have the

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bench belly, and that was like his I remember, and

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he was a big I think he I don't know

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if he ever did it. I don't think you ever

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did in competition, but I saw him like do like

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nine hundred to like a one board, which is you know,

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in like one of those Phenom shirts, and like that

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was his like you know, he drank the soda and

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he got this big belly so he didn't have to

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bring it down as far. And that was the nutrition

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aspect definitely changed a lot, like over the years.

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Yeah, there's I mean whether or not everything that everyone

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is doing for health and wellness at this point is

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actually like legitimate or scientific or whatever. There's a lot

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of people who are really trying to concentrate on it

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in their own way, and it is still there's still

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a lot of you know, like bro science, Like you're

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talking about, you know, Oreo challenge. I remember that I

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never did that. I mean I like Oreos, but I

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couldn't eat that many logos. I mean I could demolish

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the sleeve and then I'm done. I'm done with Oreos

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at that point.

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But Jim, what was your diet like when you're actively competing.

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When I was actively competing, Like I when I when

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I started powerlett thing, I had never weighed more than

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one hundred and eighty five pounds and I started going

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over to a gym in the Bay Area. I live

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in Sacramento, so it's was about an hour or so

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away one way, and I was called the Apple Barbelle,

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and I was like, suggested I should just eat a

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lot more than what I was eating, and so it

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was it was just whatever. Really it was like a

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lot a lot of meat, a lot of protein, like

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you know, a lot of barbecue places where you got

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the platter that was, you know, like this big and

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just full of five different kinds of meats and you know,

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sausages and cheese, and you know, that was in pretty

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sharp contrast to what I've been doing before. Like I

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gained about fifteen pounds clean in my late thirties, like

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I had that was sort of my lowest body fat

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and I was I was just not eating any of

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that stuff. I just just wasn't at all. And I'm

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kind of back there now. I don't eat a lot

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of beef and stuff. I still eat a lot of

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chicken and all. You know, just I mean, it doesn't

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look like a bodybuilder diet, but it doesn't look like

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an old powerlifter diet either. Back then, it was just

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it was the issue of like you know, trying to

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gain weight, and I think my biggest squat was like

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six fifty and that was too fourteen. Like I couldn't

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fill out the two twenties at that point. It was

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just kind of a struggle to get there, honestly. And

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then you know, at some point I also then just

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didn't fill out to two forty two, so I just

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couldn't you know, two twenty was too hard, But but

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two forty two was, you know, a light two forty two.

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I guess. Excuse me. We were talking about about cruise

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and John intimated that you you were to try to

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get a crew together at some point here around your

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gym in southern California.

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Oh absolutely. And over the years, I've had various people

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attempt to train with me, and unfortunately, many of them

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get discouraged because they think, well, I can't keep up

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with you, you're too strong, and I think a lot of

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the time they're missing the point. I need somebody that

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wants to push themselves as much as I do, and

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we're working towards the same goal. We're trying to get

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stronger and better. Because it's inspiring and motivating for me

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to watch somebody push themselves. I don't care how much

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they're lifting. I just want to see them try and

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be a better version of themselves and be willing to

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put in the work. And that's what inspires me and

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gets me fired up. If they're as strong as me,

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or even stronger, that's a bonus, but it's not what

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I'm looking forward to make it work. So to surround

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myself with the community of powerlifters or just people that

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want to be strong and are willing to push themselves

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and put in the work alongside me is what I'm

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looking for.

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Yeah, I remember that. Like when I my first exposure

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to to powerlifter I was in powerlifting is I was

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invited to go watch the the APF State meet in

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like two thousand fourish, And what got me was watching

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how people approached their lifts like and when they came

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on the platform, you know that you could see what,

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you know, the wheels turning in their heads about about

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you know, getting into the right position and having the

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right having the right mindset to get through a lift

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and just the struggle and the strain and all that stuff.

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And it didn't it didn't matter how much they were lifting,

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it was what their were approach was and I think

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that I think that what you're talking about people being

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nervous about training with you because they're they're not as strong.

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It's the same kind of notion that keeps people from

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doing their first meat because they feel like, oh, I

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need to be strong enough to do whatever whatever, And

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it's like, no, you don't, not really. What you need

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to do is have honest effort. And and now, if

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you have honest effort, that reflects in your face, it

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reflects in how you prepare yourself, it reflects in how

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you approach the meat itself, like your demeanor, all of that.

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That's so much more important than what than than the weights,

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like I mean winning a meat, like winning winning your

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weight class and a meat usually means you get a

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little freaking plastic medallion or you get a little trophy

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or whatever, and you get a little bit of bragging

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rights for a minute, but none of that really matters.

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What matters is that you you prepared yourself for for

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a competition and you attempted to perform your best. That's

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that's what matters. And I think that's probably gonna be

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the same same thing if you're able to put it

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together a crew, it's just people showing up, being consistent

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and putting in their best effort.

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Yeah, one thing I wanted to highlight for the audience.

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And again sometimes when throughout numbers, it's like good or

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bad because some people can relate. Some people even think

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like because for a lot of people, even like a

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three plate or four plate squad is tremendous, and it

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absolutely is for the average person. So like when Larry

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was kind of getting started, and I would say he

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was probably around like a nineteen one hundred total, which

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is still like that's a person's dream still, you know,

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that's an amazing you know, nine hundred kilos eight fifty,

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you know, that's a huge total. But anyways, our kind

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of typical squad crew. You know, I was one of

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you know, the few people still in paralatin gear. I was,

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you know, cheating to keep up with all the young

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bucks and everything. And that's still true to this day.

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I was kind of in like the eight hundred to

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eight to fifty range at the time. I would say

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when when Larry came on, because I did my first

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eight hundred pounds squad, I did eight fifty and twenty

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three teen was the first time a squad eight hundred

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plus pounds. We had Dominici, and Dominici is a great

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training partner. He ended up squatting nine hundred pounds in

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just nee sleeves, which is still like a very still

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extremely rare feet. I don't know if you remember or

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if we talked about Michael Song's list, but Dominici was

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the first guy that actually and I don't even know

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if they still have the curated list anymore, but Dominici

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was the first guy to make the two thousand pound

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Raw Hall of Fame. He did that and squatting was

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his best left he was an eight hundred plus squadter.

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Then we had Mark Greenstein, who is our best lightweight guy.

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He did a nineteen hundred pound two twenty and then

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he did an eighteen twenty five and he ended up

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being like a seven hundred pound squadter. And then we

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had one of my training partners, Eric Prush, and he

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was my first coach and he has his own business

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now and he was more of like a deadlift guy,

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but he was like a five hundred pound squad So

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we had people like from the five hundred pound range

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to eight hundred pound range, all in the same model

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of so like we took plates off, wasn't a.

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Big deal me all, and everyone was great.

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And but by the time when I got to deadlift day,

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you know, Eric Prush, he was like the low man

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on the totem pole for squats, but then he would

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kick my ass because he was like a seven hundred

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plus deadlifter.

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So we all kind of took our lick. Sometimes. We

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all had strengths and weaknesses.

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And then you have people like Larry was just good,

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good at every lift and he figures, you know, so

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he's always that's always like annoying, but it's good to

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like kind of push and then you kind of have

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your day. You know, you'll have a lift that you

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kind of excel with and it was kind of fun.

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So like I'm squat day, like you know, I would

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be the one, you know, the last man standing most

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of the time, and I would you know, throw the

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knee wraps on the canvas suit and do what I

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can to kind of you know, do a little bit

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more than the next guy, because you know, eventually, like

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I said, Dom ended up, you know, dominded up kind

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of tying my best squad and just knee sleeves, which

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you know, before he was done, which is incredible. And

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then you know he had some people like and I know,

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like Larry Larry could speak to this too. I know

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that Larry got a lot more confidence in me as

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a coach because Dom and Mark were those were all

466
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homegrown guys. We were all we grew up in Plane Edge,

467
00:23:57.359 --> 00:23:59.720
New York. You know, all from the same town and

468
00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:04.039
North Massapequa. We all played football together and wrestled and

469
00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:06.319
like so it kind of like, you know, again I

470
00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:08.200
don't want to compare myself to Louis, but kind of

471
00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:10.559
similar where a lot of Louis's first elite lifters they

472
00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:13.759
were just hometown guys from Columbus, and I was trying

473
00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:15.880
to create something similar on like a like a on

474
00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.359
a lower scale in Long Island. But a lot of

475
00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:21.000
our guys were homegrown and even you know, Larry Larry

476
00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:22.480
basically was homegrown too.

477
00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:24.279
He just came in from the Bronx. But so, I

478
00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:25.559
don't know if you can kind of talk to.

479
00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:27.920
Like the difference in like the training partners and then

480
00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:29.400
you know, if you guys and also maybe at some

481
00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:32.240
point we could talk about you know, the importance of

482
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:34.799
the train your long term training partner of Black Time Cruise.

483
00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:36.359
But what was it like having those different.

484
00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:38.640
Levels of ability levels and some people maybe were good

485
00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:40.880
at knee wrapping, some people were good at other things.

486
00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:42.839
You know, what are some things that you would like

487
00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:44.880
remember from those times, like those early days.

488
00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:50.839
Sure so, Black Time Cruise was my longest standing workout partner,

489
00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:53.440
and many myself included, will agree he's the greatest hype

490
00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:56.400
man of all time. And that's something that I'm not

491
00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:58.480
sure he gets talked about often in the communities about

492
00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:00.759
like having a great hype man and not necessarily just

493
00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:06.599
a great workout partner, but somebody that makes the training

494
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:09.240
more fun. Like he just brought so much energy and

495
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:12.759
charisma at every session that it made I took so

496
00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:15.839
much more pleasure just showing up because a lot of

497
00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:17.440
the time I knew Black Time Crew was going to

498
00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:21.279
be there, and his ban tour was just second to none,

499
00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:25.319
and he made lifting like the best social event I

500
00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:28.160
could think of, you know, Like, why bother doing anything

501
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:31.079
else when I have people like Black Time Cruise around

502
00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:34.400
every workout session, every training session, you know, not just

503
00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:36.839
to lift with, but also to laugh with, you know,

504
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:40.200
And that's what I found. Black Tom Cruise was the

505
00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:41.720
greatest at you know, he had a great sense of

506
00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:45.279
humor and even when I was getting down on myself

507
00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.039
or whatever, you know, So having someone like that just

508
00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:50.319
always keep your spirits high. He was the most positive

509
00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:52.640
person ever met, right. I never, like, even when his

510
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:55.160
dad passed away, Like this guy never had a negative

511
00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:58.400
thing to say about himself or about you know. It's

512
00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:01.400
just like he was so positive and that was so

513
00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:03.799
valuable to me because he always kept me uplifted. And

514
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:08.079
that's what you know, ideally in the perfect world I'm

515
00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:10.720
looking for and you know, my community that I'm trying

516
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:13.920
to build that one gen you know, not just people

517
00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:18.359
that are serious, hardcore powerlifters, but also know how to

518
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:20.039
have a good time with it too, you know, and

519
00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:21.480
keep spirit time and be positive.

520
00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:30.400
Yeah, that's that can be hard to maintain. And that's

521
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:31.920
I mean, it's great that you you had that. It

522
00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:33.599
can be hard to maintain when you have a bunch

523
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.440
of strong personalities. I can just tell you from my

524
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:39.160
perspective that back in the old lest he days, it

525
00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:43.200
was sometimes touch and go. Honestly, there were you know,

526
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:46.039
there were there were egos, there were a lot of uh,

527
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:48.440
there's a little dust ups sometimes in the gym, and

528
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.440
it's like I used to I used to always think

529
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:54.359
about like and partly because I was recording a lot

530
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:57.359
of training sessions, but I always used to think of

531
00:26:57.400 --> 00:26:59.880
them like as episodes. It's like this is an episode

532
00:26:59.880 --> 00:27:01.960
of reality show. And that's really sort of I mean,

533
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.119
it's almost became a reality show a couple of times

534
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:09.039
where where people just rubbed each other the wrong way.

535
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:12.240
And you know, in competition, in moments of competition, people

536
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:18.640
always rooted for their teammates, but sometimes in training there

537
00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:24.200
could be friction for sure, and I don't know, some

538
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:28.200
people can handle that and and just you know, sort

539
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:30.880
of sort of let the water off a ducts back

540
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:33.000
and not care about it, and other people like hold

541
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.920
on to it for a long time. So anyway, I'm

542
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:37.640
just saying it can be hard to develop that when

543
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:40.119
you have a bunch of strong personalities. And it sounds

544
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:43.480
like you were you guys were able to avoid that.

545
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:48.119
Well, I will say. I'd say like when I was

546
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:50.599
at the time, I was still a special education teacher,

547
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:53.880
and a lot of us would train U basically after

548
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.359
seven o'clock. We always joke, you don't know what goes

549
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:58.119
on after seven so all like the women and the

550
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:01.640
children and the kids the athletes, doors would close lock

551
00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:03.680
like only if you weren't part of the paler lating team.

552
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.240
So it definitely was a similar kind of vibe. And

553
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:09.079
over the years the culture at Gagoleon Strength has shifted.

554
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:13.960
When I spend a little bit more time. In twenty seventeen,

555
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:16.599
I spent a week a week long I called my

556
00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:19.559
Westside pilgrimage. It's maybe maybe being a little bit over dramatic,

557
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.000
but I spent a week with Louis. I trained with

558
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:26.880
like Anthony Olavera, Jason Koker. Trying to think who else

559
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:29.720
was there. I I kind of, you know, kind of

560
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:31.960
I called like an observational internship, but basically I would

561
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:33.720
just kind of I observed with Louis.

562
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:34.839
I kind of learned under Louis.

563
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:36.640
You know, we went to the bob Evans, we went

564
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:39.559
you know, to you know, to breakfast, all those things.

565
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.599
So at that time we had there was some people,

566
00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:45.200
you know, there was some falling out some of the

567
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:47.160
people I mentioned, like, there was times where like we

568
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.359
weren't speaking. There was times where like people were kicked

569
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:50.720
out of the gym. There was time and I'm sure

570
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:52.640
the same thing with you, Jim, Like there was you know,

571
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:54.920
there was some tumultuous times. And I think when you

572
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:58.440
have people that really care, they're really passionate, emotions run high,

573
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:00.720
and then there's you know, calling a space this performance

574
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:04.200
enhancing drugs involved in all these things, and that can

575
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:07.240
just like elevate if someone has a big personality. It's

576
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.000
can even be a bigger personality when when performance enhancing

577
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.200
drugs are involved. So over time after that kind of

578
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:17.599
twenty seventeen, I kind of like I started to think about,

579
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:19.359
like what are the like the best elements of west

580
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:21.680
Side that I could take back to Gaglon Strength and

581
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:23.279
then try to like kind of kind of cut out

582
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:25.680
like maybe some of the other stuff. Maybe can we

583
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:28.599
have a competitive fun environment that's less cutthroat? Can we

584
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:33.000
still be supportive and competitive? Can we you know, be

585
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:35.440
hard on each other, but like not you know, but

586
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.680
in like a constructive way, you know. So those are

587
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:40.279
in I'm still kind of working on this, and this

588
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.680
is something that I kind of make a point and

589
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:45.279
every now and then that old flip will switch when

590
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:46.880
I especially if I'm getting ready for me or whatever

591
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.200
I'm trying to I'm like Okay, like you need to

592
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:51.279
chill out, like this is not that serious.

593
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:52.680
This is like a hobby, you know what I mean.

594
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:55.319
So I think over time, and that's where someone like

595
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:58.720
Black Tom Cruise at least was great because you just

596
00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:01.119
never had a negative like thing to say about anyone.

597
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.079
Is just that was his personality. So he always kind

598
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.119
of brought a lot of warmth and he kind of

599
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:08.200
would cut through and I don't think anyone ever had

600
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:08.839
a problem with him.

601
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:10.119
He was just one of those guys that was just

602
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:10.920
always cheerful.

603
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:13.599
And so I think having those people that are like

604
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:16.960
whether the peacekeepers or the people that are always fun,

605
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.440
I think that really helped. And I know for me personally,

606
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:21.599
that's something I had to kind of take a look

607
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:24.559
at in the mirrors as I got older, and after

608
00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:26.440
that twenty seventeen, I was like, okay, like, let me

609
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.759
try to take the best elements of West Side and

610
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:31.359
then try to make it a more family friendly environment

611
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.279
but still have all you know, the programming, the team culture,

612
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:37.359
because I think that the idea of a crew is

613
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:39.960
so important. But yeah, I think that it can you

614
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.680
can like anything else. I was a super heavyweight. You

615
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:45.559
can like take any all this stuff too far, so

616
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:47.559
trying to kind of find that middle ground where you kind.

617
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:48.599
Of get the best of both worlds.

618
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.119
So that's something where it's easier said than done. But

619
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:53.960
I think sometimes you have to like let the pendulum

620
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:56.119
sling all the way to the end to kind of

621
00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:58.559
find that center point. And like, we definitely took things

622
00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:01.559
too far, and especially you know, when you start breaking

623
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:03.400
records and stuff, you get a little bit of cocky,

624
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:05.000
and sometimes so many people, you know, I have a

625
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.599
little bit of a god complex, if you will. I

626
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:09.680
think it's just you start to feel like you're invincible

627
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.079
until you kind of get shot down a little bit,

628
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:15.559
until you get humbled. So I don't know if that

629
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:17.240
kind of resonates with you at all, but that's just

630
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:18.680
kind of how I looked about these things. And that's

631
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:21.240
why I've kind of definitely kind of calmed down a lot,

632
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.480
if you will. And my wife may disagree, but I've

633
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.680
definitely slowed down a bit. I've definitely gotten less aggressive

634
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.400
in training. That's why I kind of and even like

635
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.599
now like I'm like, you know, semi retired doing more

636
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:34.519
strict cirl and stuff. But even like me at like

637
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:38.200
eighty percent it's still a lot for like the average person,

638
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:40.400
where when we were like running at one hundred percent,

639
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:43.799
it's like, you know, and maybe we shouldn't be running

640
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:44.920
at a hundred, you know what I mean, We need

641
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:47.160
to like kind of chill out. Like Larry said, I

642
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:49.960
think that the more you can restrain yourself, because most

643
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:50.759
people can't.

644
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.160
Tap into their self like that.

645
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:54.839
Most people can't like recruit, you know what I mean,

646
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:56.720
Like when you're like doing like a nine hundred pounds

647
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.519
squad or a big bench, a big deadlift. Most people

648
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:03.559
just don't have like that, you know, that switch they

649
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:05.319
can flip, And I think it's good to be able

650
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:06.960
to learn how to like turn that on in.

651
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.680
A competitive situation. But it's one of those things.

652
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:11.640
Dave Taate used to call it like a zippy cards,

653
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:13.839
and he would only have like one or two like

654
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:15.839
every so often. So you kind of use those wisely

655
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:17.720
because if you use them too much, you break down.

656
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:20.440
It could be detrimental to your nervous system, your mood

657
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.799
and everything else. You have to kind of, you know,

658
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:25.319
kind of restrain yourself until it's time. And that's like

659
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:27.839
one thing I think Larry did a great job with

660
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.400
as his competition career kind of took off. He learned

661
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:34.240
to trust the process, and then on meat day, like

662
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:36.759
the leash was off and we were then we were

663
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:38.160
then we were there to do the job. So that

664
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:40.319
all the training up into that point and most of

665
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:44.200
his training, you know, we would touch ninety percent sometimes

666
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.319
ninety five, but like the really heavy stuff was done

667
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:48.279
with a reverse band, the really heavy stuff was done

668
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.079
with chains. If it was straight weight and all that stuff,

669
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.799
it really was usually not as crazy. But then on

670
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:56.079
game day, on meat Day, then we hit the numbers

671
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:58.960
that we needed to. And luckily, like I said, I

672
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:01.119
was I have a pretty good batting I had of

673
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:04.359
average with picking attempts, and we were more more fortunate

674
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:07.759
in making more than we missed. But I think part

675
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:09.480
of that is just having like I said, like almost

676
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.000
like you know, basically a decade relationship of knowing each

677
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.480
other and then you can really kind of make those

678
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:16.720
decisions on the fly when the pressure was on.

679
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.519
Well, you were talking about, you know, people being able

680
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:25.680
to sort of access that extra that extra gear, and

681
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:30.680
a lot of people seem to rely on you know,

682
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:36.119
ammonia or or a particular like hype song or whatever,

683
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:40.720
particularly in meets, but sometimes a lot in training sessions too,

684
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:42.720
and that I'm always kind of surprised by that as

685
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:47.119
those are things that never like really you know, SYNCD

686
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:49.599
up for me, like I either had it or I didn't.

687
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.400
They didn't necessarily help me one way or the other.

688
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:54.759
What do you guys think about those other of things?

689
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:58.559
And Larry was talking about how being hyped up by someone,

690
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:04.319
but uh, hyped up by those external factors like you know,

691
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:08.400
smelling salts and whatever music you wanted to listen to.

692
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:14.119
You know, I'm great you brought that, want to answer, Yeah, absolutely,

693
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:18.000
I'm glad you brought that up. That gets I get

694
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:22.679
that question often and basically when I have a hype song,

695
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.800
or at least in the past when I did. You know,

696
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.039
every time you listen to it, it hits less and

697
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:29.559
less hard, right, so you build a tolerance to it,

698
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:31.239
and then you become dependent on it, and then if

699
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:32.800
it doesn't work, it's like, damn, well, now I can't

700
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:34.920
turn that switch on, right, or I would try and

701
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:36.679
go to a dark place, or I would have someone

702
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.440
slap me to get me fired up. And that's fun

703
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:41.880
for a time, right, but doesn't always work.

704
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:42.280
Right.

705
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:44.840
But what does always work. What you can depend on

706
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:49.199
is yourself internal motivation. And I learned to when it's time,

707
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:51.599
when it's game day, when it's time for a big

708
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:57.159
lift ninety percent or above, just execute right, control my breathing,

709
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:58.639
you know, have a little bit of caffe you don't

710
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.880
go too crazy, nothing too extreme, and just focus on

711
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:04.559
executing the lift properly. Like what are my technique cues,

712
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:06.960
because that's the most important thing. When I start like

713
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.280
blacking out and going to that dark place or the

714
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.199
hype song or the slapping, it could get you a

715
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:14.960
little bit too aggressive and you get sloppy and your

716
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.119
form breaks down. Then you get injured, you miss a lip,

717
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:19.880
you know, squat deeping up and so on. So I

718
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:23.480
tell people just focus on proper execution. And I remember

719
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:25.639
so many times John sitting in front of me, like listen,

720
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:29.480
stop thinking, just execute and that's as simple as it is. Right.

721
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.800
Well, that brings up another question. You know a lot

722
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.719
of a lot of our lifters right now in the

723
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:41.159
gym are working with a coach. Sometimes it's somebody who

724
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:43.960
is also a member of the gym. Often they're working

725
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:47.559
with a remote coach. Very like very small number of

726
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:50.039
people are probably working more from a template and less

727
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.239
from whatever I mean. But we have like we have

728
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:55.920
iPhone tripods all over the place because people are filming

729
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:59.920
lifts for their for their coaches and for Instagram and

730
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:03.480
stuff too. But but you know, not every not they're

731
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:05.719
not posting every single lift that they record because those

732
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:10.440
are all going to their coaches. What are your thoughts

733
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:14.639
on both sides about like what what effective coaching looks like?

734
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:18.639
Whoever wants to go.

735
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.360
First, Laurie, what do you think has been the biggest

736
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.480
factors in your success in terms of like our relationship

737
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:26.960
and our dynamicsuse. I think I think you maybe kind

738
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:30.000
of riff off, like you know, you know, trusting in

739
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:34.440
the process and just maybe some things that maybe I

740
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.199
unload some I kind of take on some bandwidth that

741
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:38.840
you can kind of just focus on being an athlete.

742
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:40.360
Maybe if that is like a starting point.

743
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.199
Yeah, So what's so great about having a good coach?

744
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.760
It takes away all of the overthinking. Right when people

745
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:49.280
try and coach themselves, you tend to second guess yourself

746
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.039
and start to change things around, and you start to

747
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.079
lose faith in the process. You start to doubt yourself.

748
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:55.880
But when you just put your faith in a coach.

749
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:58.320
You just show up and execute right. It takes all

750
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.800
the guests work. And then on top of having good

751
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:04.400
consistent communication, the more you can communicate with your coach,

752
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.679
the better. I work with people briefly in the past

753
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.760
where it communicates you is newly non existent, and as

754
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:14.199
a result, I feel the train, nutrition, the recovery, everything

755
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:16.880
gets compromised because they didn't know what's going on. Maybe

756
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:20.000
they're not reaching out, they're not as attentive. And I

757
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:25.079
think communication is extremely important and what separates the good

758
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:26.719
coaches from the ones that they're not so good.

759
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.760
And on game day specifically, like because I know, like

760
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:33.320
I'm wearing like the world record shirt, you know, for

761
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:35.719
a reason. So like every single time that you broke

762
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:39.960
a world record, there was different federation, different circumstances, maybe

763
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:43.480
different states even, but the common denominators that we were

764
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:47.039
linked up, and I was like your game day coach, right,

765
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:49.719
And I think that's something I think is really overlooked.

766
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.920
And powerlifting is the even in raw lifting, because in

767
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.039
equipped lifting, and we're all with wraps and stuff, like

768
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:57.000
actually having someone to wrap your knees and put you

769
00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.159
in the suit and all these things, But what were

770
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.760
some things like on day specifically in terms of like

771
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:06.960
the attempt selection, the warm ups, finding like electrolytes.

772
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:09.280
For when you're crampy, and we have a funny story

773
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:09.639
about that.

774
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:11.400
But what are some things like on game day that

775
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:13.599
you found like really helpful to like really allow you

776
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:15.599
to be successful on the platform.

777
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:17.760
I mean, you touched on a couple of really good ones,

778
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:21.679
such as attempt selection, and that's something that is so stressful.

779
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:23.639
And I couldn't imagine going to a meet and having

780
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:26.760
to choose my own attempts because how could I possibly

781
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.559
pick the right number? Whereas I felt whenever John picked

782
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:33.119
my attempts, it was just it felt just right. Opener, second, third,

783
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:36.280
everything just as it should right. And then just when

784
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.639
you experienced that meet after meat, it start to eliminate

785
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.840
a lot of the anxiety that's supposed to be there

786
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.159
and game day because you know, like, okay, well, I'm

787
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:47.519
with a coach that always picks the right attempt right,

788
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:49.400
So if I don't get it, it's on me, right,

789
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:51.599
because he knows what he's doing, he knows my body,

790
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:54.800
and if I've been following the program my nutrition New

791
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:57.559
Crab's on point right, I should get this left right.

792
00:38:57.599 --> 00:38:59.559
So I usually like to put that on myself, and

793
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:01.639
if if I don't get an attempt, I always putting

794
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:04.199
on myself, never on the coach, never on John. That

795
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:09.400
aside from little things, well significant things like if I

796
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:11.679
did a weight cut, which I hated to do, I

797
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:15.039
don't do anymore. And I remember one time, I don't

798
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.920
remember exactly which competition, I was cramping so bad I

799
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:19.840
couldn't even open my hands, So I was like, how

800
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:21.679
am I going to finish the meat? Literally I couldn't

801
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:23.559
open my hands or just glue shut. Never had it

802
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:25.880
happen in for in my life. But you know, with

803
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:28.440
John support, I was able to get electrolytes and he

804
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:30.079
was like, listen, drip like a gown to list. I

805
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:31.840
remember exactly what we did, but it worked.

806
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:32.159
Right.

807
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:35.119
That's the most important thing, just having someone there that

808
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:39.760
really is attentive, right, I have to keep emphasizing attentive

809
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:42.760
like that, really paying attention and really cares about your

810
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:47.880
performance is priceless. And I've watched other people try and

811
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:51.840
coach their clients and it's not many. Unfortunately, many people

812
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.199
don't get the same TLC that I got when John

813
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:57.920
was coaching me right, like just that you know, attention

814
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.719
to the little details and most important keeping me out

815
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:03.800
of my head, right, because on game day it's like, Okay,

816
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:07.199
maybe I skipped this lift on this day or eat

817
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.760
it up on that day, and I start overthinking everything

818
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:11.800
and anxiety gets a little bit too overbearing on. It

819
00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:14.199
doesn't happen too often, but if it ever did, you know,

820
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.320
that's when John steps in, like, stop thinking, you know,

821
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:18.199
here's the plan, this is what we're gonna do, right,

822
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:19.480
And just that kind of keeps me out of my

823
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:22.719
head because the second you start overthinking things on game day,

824
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.679
I feel like then you start thinking, well, maybe I'm

825
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:28.039
not ready for this today, right, and then you start

826
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.480
going that rabbit hole like, well, because I don't believe

827
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.159
in myself anymore, how am I gonna get this lift?

828
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:32.360
Right?

829
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:34.679
So it's like having that coach like John there to

830
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.280
tell you, you know, listen, you're ready for this is

831
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.800
what we're gonna do, and just adjust the plan as

832
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:44.920
the day goes on because things change, like maybe the

833
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.159
open didn't go as passed we thought it whatever, Like

834
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:49.199
it's so easy to get in your head and overthink

835
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.000
things and That's where John Septing is like, listen, this

836
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.599
is our second attempt. You know, don't even have to

837
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:56.400
go back and forth on him about I never argue

838
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.320
with John. I just stuck to the plan and more

839
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.239
often more times up the than not and worked out.

840
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.079
So there's two things I want to highlight with the

841
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.880
especially the I think game day nutrition is often like

842
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.639
really like and game day nutrition starts with like the

843
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:13.599
night before. So I think a lot of people you know,

844
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:15.679
stand kind of famous with this. Is like you know,

845
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:18.400
you eat clean all like prep or whatever, and then

846
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:20.280
you go to right to I hop was very like

847
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.480
I hop b Ha pizza, pasta, pancakes, and then like

848
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:26.000
you're not your summa upset, You're not your weight's like

849
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:28.079
all messed up. You're you're in the bathroom more than

850
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:30.960
you know. Then then you know you're not able to

851
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:33.559
keep the weight on. So being like more dialed in

852
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:35.599
like the day before, and then have like the treats,

853
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.199
the treats and stuff like after after the meat is over.

854
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:40.719
And I know what Larry specifically, and I kind of

855
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:42.679
so I always have electrolytes on hand. I always have

856
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:46.159
different like you know, things for and sometimes like you

857
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.320
might like, you know, you might just say like, hey,

858
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:51.320
I'm not really sure if this is if you're a

859
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:52.920
newer coach, like I'm not sure if this is gonna work.

860
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:54.360
But just being confident and be like, hey, I think

861
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:57.360
you need electrolytes and just like being confident in your delivery,

862
00:41:57.559 --> 00:41:59.639
you know, to your athlete, I think is important even

863
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:01.039
if you're like I don't know how this is going

864
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:02.840
to go, like, you know, just trying to like keep

865
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:05.840
the athlete, because if you're if you're showing nervousness, if

866
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:08.280
you're not confident, that's going to kind of go into

867
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:10.239
like the athletes. So we kind of went talked about

868
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:14.000
you know, Black Tom Cruise, if you're giving out positive,

869
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:16.320
confident energy, that's going to kind of rub off like

870
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:18.320
on the athlete. And I think that's really important that

871
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:20.320
you're very confident in your attempt selection. You've kind of

872
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.079
had good communication leading up to the meet, so that

873
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.199
way is no I think I'm opening too heavy or

874
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:27.559
I'm opening too light like that those things should not

875
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:31.440
like be happening with Those conversations should be had prior

876
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:32.880
to the meet, not not on game day.

877
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:34.800
Those that should not be a discussion.

878
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:39.159
So one one particular instance, so like, uh, when we

879
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:41.119
started competing a little bit more with like the USPA

880
00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:42.880
and when the us opened was kind of a thing.

881
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.760
I was just talking actually with with with Greenow and

882
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:48.440
I think we have mutual friend, you know JP Price.

883
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:50.599
That like warm up room was crazy.

884
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.119
You know, you had like you know, Brandon Allen and

885
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:57.079
JP Price and all the it was like a crazy

886
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:59.119
meat And then we had of course, you know Urie

887
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.920
Belkin was whipping. He had he was like the John

888
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:06.480
Hack of like the time. But you know, the squad

889
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.760
depth was like, the strike zone was tough that day.

890
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:12.719
The bench pauses was tough that day. So we had

891
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.280
to like lower expectations and that was not I didn't

892
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:18.280
tell Larry about like, hey, like the judges are really

893
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:20.719
like that was not like a comrace. That was my

894
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:24.639
problem to fix. So we like lowered our third attempts

895
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:28.639
considerably and then uh, this is a really it was

896
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:30.480
a really cool moment for me as a coach because

897
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:32.760
we had a very unique opportunity because Larry got to

898
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:35.280
go head to head against Dennis Cornelius is one of

899
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:42.159
the greatest heavyweights in IPF history, and so we knew

900
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.079
we needed to pull a big deadlift to win. Larry

901
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.000
was the lighter lifter because of course he had. He

902
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:49.440
had to make my job a little bit harder because

903
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:51.719
he was trying to break our world record in knee

904
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:53.639
leaves and everyone else was in knee raps. But he's like,

905
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:56.039
I want to break Eric Lowbridge's record in nie leaves,

906
00:43:56.119 --> 00:43:58.559
and also like do the smeat. I'm like, sure, no problem,

907
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.360
it'll be fine, just bringing a knife to a gunfight.

908
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.800
But you know it's Larry Wheels, so it's we'll figure

909
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.159
it out. So anyway, so Larry basically had like one

910
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:08.480
hundred pounds handicap on his total. So that's like that

911
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:10.239
was like that was the start of the meet. And

912
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:13.159
now like everyone's bombing out on squats. The pauses on

913
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:16.199
benches are crazy. So we get into deadlifts and we're

914
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:18.559
doing a little bit of jockey and for attempt selection

915
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:22.239
and I'm like, okay, like you know, Larry, did you

916
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.280
know had had some good polls in training. It's a

917
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:28.480
tough meat. The judging is tough. We kind of see

918
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:31.039
Dennis is not a great deadlifter, so I think he

919
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:34.519
ended up. He ended up, you know, we see what

920
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:36.039
he does in a third attempt, I don't remember if

921
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:39.159
he got it not okay, like if Larry pulls four

922
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:43.000
in Rakuilos, they'll tie. And then Larry went on body weight,

923
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:46.360
so we put the attempt in and Larry just crushes

924
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:49.079
it and it's it's like an iconic video like he's

925
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.519
in you know, the the MHP single it and like

926
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.719
he's going crazy and he's like big celebration. So he

927
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:56.440
beats Dennis Corney early his head to head and it

928
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.840
puts him third place overall. So it was the podium

929
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:05.760
was uh was Brandon Allen ended up taking second, and

930
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.079
then Eurie belcan you know, we knew it was basically

931
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:10.280
in his It was his like, you know, meat to lose.

932
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:12.840
So Brandon Allen had a great day and then you know,

933
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:14.920
Larry kind of rounded out the podium and it was

934
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:17.679
a very that was a very tough field, so to

935
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:19.679
podium and like not even be wearing knee wraps at

936
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.719
a rap meat was pretty crazy. And the fact that

937
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:24.679
he had like a very unique opportunity to go head

938
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:26.840
to head with one of the best IPF lifters in history.

939
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:29.719
I believe he still has the IPF world record in

940
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:32.800
the one twenty weight class. So anyways, that was a

941
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.679
really cool memory and I was like, and again not

942
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.079
to my own horn, but like stuff like that would

943
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.440
not happen without a good game day coach, Like those things,

944
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:40.920
you know, like if you just say like, hey, I'm

945
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:43.440
because Larry was capable of like an eight to fifty squad,

946
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:45.639
but we ended up with like eight twenty six or

947
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:46.920
something whatever the kilo number is.

948
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:48.679
It's like we had to like really drop it down

949
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:49.280
quite a bit.

950
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:50.639
Same thing. I thought he was capable of like a

951
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.880
six thirty five bench. I think he did like six

952
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.480
oh six or six', eleven you, know so you have

953
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:57.360
to kind of lower. Expectations you got to adjust to

954
00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:59.519
the strike. Zone AND i think that's something where it

955
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:01.679
doesn't matter were like what you did in, Training like it's, like,

956
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:03.719
okay what are the conditions of the, Day and that's

957
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:05.840
where like the sports side really comes. In so those

958
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:08.159
are always the most fun for. Me it gets me

959
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:10.280
fired up just thinking about, It like those, were you,

960
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:11.039
know some of the good old.

961
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:11.480
Days for.

962
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:15.840
Sure as a, LIFTER i sometimes enjoyed just having somebody

963
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:18.679
else put in my numbers and just not even tell

964
00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:22.480
me what they were in a meat LIKE i was in,

965
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:24.519
there sort of block it out when it's when it

966
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:27.480
was announced or whatever that. Was that was sometimes helpful

967
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.800
because THEN i you, know you get the numbers in

968
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:32.440
your head and you get like like you think you

969
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.679
have hard stops and you don't LIKE i would never

970
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:38.039
have squatted six fifty if somebody had told ME i

971
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:40.000
was gonna squat six fifty in this, meet because it was,

972
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:43.760
like you, know sixty pounds more Than i'd ever squatted anywhere,

973
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.679
Ever so you know that that makes the. Difference another

974
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:50.480
thing THAT i think really helps is if with a

975
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:57.519
coach on game day is timing warm. Ups there's there's

976
00:46:57.519 --> 00:46:59.599
a lot of attention that needs to go into. That you,

977
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:03.159
know you know when when the next flight is coming,

978
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:06.840
up and what equipment is available to, you you, know

979
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:08.960
to warm up in a warm up, rooms because not

980
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:11.280
every warm up room is created the same by any

981
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:14.880
stretch of the. Imagination you, know sometimes you're and sometimes

982
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:16.920
you're warming up with pound, plates but you're gonna live with.

983
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:21.679
Kilos that's often the. Case we actually have enough kilo

984
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:23.519
sets in the gym that we're able to let people

985
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:26.880
warm up with. Kilos if that's what they. Desire but but,

986
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:30.119
yeah and just so much of that that can really

987
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:34.639
get in your head and makes you anxious is taken

988
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:37.559
away if somebody else is managing it for, you makes

989
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:42.320
a big. Difference SO i know that We john AND

990
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:46.119
i talked it last time about strict, curl AND i

991
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:48.719
know you guys have a meat coming up in Southern

992
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:55.079
california in In january that you want to continue to

993
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:58.400
inform people, About so just lay that out for.

994
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:02.800
Everybody, yeah so, zeh but's it's kind of crazy even

995
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.360
just since we last, spoke which hasn't which hasn't been you,

996
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:08.719
know too long at this, point but this is going

997
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:15.440
to be one of the most highly anticipated heavyweight. Matchups

998
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:17.440
we have a couple of really heavy hitters coming And

999
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:19.480
i'm hoping that one of My New york, guys he's

1000
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:21.920
kind of like not one hundred percent of, confirmed but

1001
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.840
if he does. Go so we Have my guy Is John,

1002
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:29.719
Archibald Panamanian. Hulk so he's got THE rps world record right,

1003
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:32.840
now so he's like the reigning king with two hundred

1004
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:34.239
and ten, pounds so about ninety five.

1005
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:36.960
Kilos and then we have a Big.

1006
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:41.519
Joe it's a BOWL i want to say that he's

1007
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:43.360
so he's recently lost a lot of. Weight he's still

1008
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.199
a super heavyweight or a three oh eight, lifter but

1009
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.320
he he was like a four hundred pound dude at one,

1010
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:49.480
point and he was up there around like the two,

1011
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:51.199
yeah really big. Guy now he's in like the low three.

1012
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.559
HUNDREDS i think he's still like super, heavyweight but like

1013
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:55.800
maybe like three. Fifteen so he's lost a lot of.

1014
00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:58.320
Weight so sometimes in strict, curl that's that's when you

1015
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:00.679
have the smaller belly kind of keep it closer to

1016
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.760
your body and that can like. Help so he's he's

1017
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:05.840
kind of in that two fifteen range right, now but

1018
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:07.719
he's done like a two twenty, Plus like he's one

1019
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:11.280
hundred kilo curl, guy which is again very rare. Air that's,

1020
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:14.320
like you, know probably less than ten, people i'd say

1021
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.559
In america has ever done. That and then you Have

1022
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:18.880
Antonio collins AND i know he's actually a, big a

1023
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:22.400
big fan Of. Larry we've talked. About you, know he's

1024
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.000
really excited to meet. You he's he's also a two

1025
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:27.679
hundred and twenty pound curler as. Well and then we

1026
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:32.840
Have Brendan Todd Brendan todd's ACTUALLY i consider him like

1027
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:37.119
a like a hybrid strength athlete because he does like,

1028
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:41.679
powerlifting he does strong, man he does STREET i don't

1029
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:43.239
know if you're familiar With jim with street, lifting which

1030
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:47.400
is like WEIGHTED calisenicx dips and pull. Ups he's like

1031
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:49.000
a two hundred and seventy five. Pounds he's a nice.

1032
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:50.599
Kid he kind of lives close to, me so he.

1033
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.119
Did he did a second strip from me with. Us

1034
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:56.159
he has got the one hundred percent raw world record

1035
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:58.880
with two hundred and twenty six. POUNDS i think it's

1036
00:49:58.880 --> 00:49:59.760
one hundred and two and a HALF.

1037
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:01.320
Q so.

1038
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:05.239
It's gonna be like the most stacked heavyweight lineup we've

1039
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.039
ever seen in a strict girl. Beat so it's gonna

1040
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:10.039
be like fun to watch because all those guys are

1041
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:11.960
gonna be going head to head and like one miss

1042
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:14.360
like someone else can kind of jump the. Other so right,

1043
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:17.239
Now John archibold is like THE rps you, know record,

1044
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.920
holder but we have three other heavy. Hitters so we

1045
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.039
got four guys that are doing ninety five kilos of,

1046
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:24.079
more WHICH i don't think it has ever been to my,

1047
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:28.360
knowledge and certainly NOT i think on The West, coast

1048
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:30.000
there might have been some meets like in The arnold and,

1049
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.880
stuff but and then we have some good lightweight, Battles

1050
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:35.239
like we have two, Guys Gary teeter And Ed joseph

1051
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:37.920
that are in the one thirty two weight, class and

1052
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.320
they've both gone over one hundred and thirty, two SO

1053
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:43.400
i think two pounds separate their pr so that's very.

1054
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:45.519
Exciting two pounds is not a, lot so that's gonna be.

1055
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.360
Exciting and then we're just trying to get some more ladies,

1056
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:50.960
involved so really exciting. Stuff and then the other thing

1057
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:52.599
that we're gonna, Do i'm not sure what we're gonna call.

1058
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:57.679
It i'm calling it training wheels, camp but we want

1059
00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:00.639
to do some open tryouts for you, Know larry's at One.

1060
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:04.440
Gen Like jim, said it's not, anything so after this triccroll,

1061
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.639
me we're just gonna have like an open, lift you,

1062
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.480
Know And i'm really excited for that as, well because

1063
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:14.920
some of the best training, partners like, again you, Know,

1064
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:18.440
jim you were you, were you, know training with. THOUSAND

1065
00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:21.239
i THINK i think Maybe cartwright was like eleven, hundred

1066
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:23.360
like you guys had some like one thousand pounds plus,

1067
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:29.320
lifters you, know six, seven eight hundred pound, benchures just

1068
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:32.239
because the ways can come. Off it's not just about

1069
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:33.840
the amount of weight you can. Lift and also when

1070
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:35.719
it comes to spotting and loading and stuff like, that

1071
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:38.440
as long as you have good communication and you're, coordinated

1072
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:41.840
you can like you guys can like you can spot

1073
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:42.559
a thousand pounds.

1074
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:45.400
Squad it is, scary but if.

1075
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:47.159
You guys are, coordinating and that's the whole, thing like,

1076
00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:49.320
together we can achieve more if you guys learn to work.

1077
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:51.960
Together AND i know that you, know AND i don't.

1078
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:54.559
Know we'll Let larry speak a little bit as well

1079
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:56.639
with whatever he if he wants to tease you guys

1080
00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:59.079
a little bit, more or if he wants to unveil some

1081
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:02.719
some big news the fifty Percent facts. Podcast BUT i

1082
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:04.880
know he recently put a post out that.

1083
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:07.199
He's getting the. Itch he's getting the itch.

1084
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.320
Again SO i don't know if you want to say

1085
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:11.480
anything to, That, larry or just leave The let's just

1086
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:13.760
leave the audience in. Suspense but anything else that you

1087
00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:15.960
want to say about the team, tryouts what kind of

1088
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:17.639
people you're looking, For what are you looking for in

1089
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:18.440
a good training?

1090
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:22.159
Partner, Right so we touched on this a little bit

1091
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.079
earlier in the, pod But i'll get a little deeper into.

1092
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:27.440
It so really What i'm looking for is people that

1093
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:30.199
just want to be the best version, themselves don't take

1094
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:32.679
training too, seriously know how to have a good, lab

1095
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.920
make it fun, right because for, me training is, pleasure.

1096
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:37.400
RIGHT i don't want this to feel like a, chore

1097
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:40.360
like this is. WORK i genuinely look forward to going to,

1098
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:44.719
train And i'm not just fixated on the result, anymore

1099
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.159
on hitting prs or breaking weld the records or game.

1100
00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:50.079
Day i'm really looking forward to, just you, know having

1101
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:53.679
people that are, reliable that are going to show up

1102
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:56.159
WHEN i expect them. To Because i'm a very punctual

1103
00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:57.639
person and IF i Assu i'm going to be there

1104
00:52:57.679 --> 00:52:59.159
AT x O'clock i'm going to be there ex o'clock

1105
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:02.239
at that, time, Right so just respect my, time you,

1106
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.639
know respect the, gym and you have fun with. It,

1107
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.960
now as we mentioned, earlier it's not important to me

1108
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:11.199
how much you, lived you, know as long as you

1109
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:15.719
are interested in pushing yourself and you want to. Compete

1110
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.199
BECAUSE i think it's also important that you enjoy getting

1111
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:21.360
on stage and enjoy the, process because Ideally i'd like

1112
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:25.000
to compete with my training. PARTNERS i competed many times

1113
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:28.400
With Black Tom. Cruise and what made it so, magical

1114
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.000
besides everything ELSE i mentioned with all of his good,

1115
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:33.800
qualities was that we were training together for the same.

1116
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:37.199
Goal we were preparing for the same, competition not to

1117
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:39.679
beat each. Other, Right it was never about. That it

1118
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:42.679
was just about, Like, okay our goals, aligned, right let's

1119
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:48.960
work together in this. Goal AND i can't do a

1120
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:52.920
heavy squad or bench anymore like by myself ninety percent,

1121
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:55.000
plus which is not going to. HAPPEN i need at

1122
00:53:55.079 --> 00:54:00.920
least three people, right middle and two side spotters.

1123
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:01.840
Five five as a. Crew five is a.

1124
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:06.920
Crew, Fine, okay, okay we can get. Five i'll Be

1125
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:11.880
i'll be. Jumping i'd be. Great, sorry go, Ahead.

1126
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:14.800
JIM i just you, know we were talking about about

1127
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:19.079
spotting training partners and spotting people in, meats but particularly training.

1128
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.880
Partners LIKE i was never close to being the, strongest but,

1129
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:26.360
BOY i really took the spotting part of it very

1130
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:30.360
seriously because, like you're not you're not lifting the, weight

1131
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:33.000
but you're protecting the, lifter and that's that's a big.

1132
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:35.440
Responsibility that's something that you that you need to keep

1133
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:37.360
in your head and you need to try to be

1134
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.519
as good at a spotter as you are a, lifter

1135
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:45.199
and that is hard for some. Folks BUT i always

1136
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:48.280
felt LIKE i. COULD i could side spot a heavy

1137
00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:50.639
bench even IF i, couldn't you, know even IF i

1138
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:52.679
even it was just like two of us on one

1139
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:55.159
side or just one or, WHATEVER i could do it

1140
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:59.119
BECAUSE i didn't want anything to go badly for for

1141
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.280
whoever was. Lifting HOWEVER i was feeling about them at the. Moment.

1142
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:06.639
Uh and AND i think that THAT'S i think that

1143
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:08.400
just has to be has to be part of. It

1144
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:12.719
you have to to understand that that when you're when you're,

1145
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:16.360
spotting it's not about. You you're committed to the safety

1146
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:18.360
of of of your teammate who's.

1147
00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:21.840
Lifting, yeah there's two quick THINGS i wanted to.

1148
00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:24.440
Say SO i, know like WITH uh With larry's uh

1149
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:26.840
when he brooks hands record the twenty two seventy Five

1150
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:31.000
otis and you Know Black Tom. Cruise you know that

1151
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:32.920
they trained, this they did the same meet, together AND

1152
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:35.719
i think that like kind of added to just the

1153
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:38.239
environment that they were. In AND i Think otis was

1154
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:42.079
very close To i'm going off memory here so someone

1155
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:44.039
could fact check. ME i think That otis might have

1156
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:46.320
pulled like seven seventy or something like in the hot

1157
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:48.639
like mid to high. Sevens so and then you know

1158
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:50.159
he was up, there and then, uh he had a

1159
00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:53.960
really good. Day and THEN i Remember larry broke the

1160
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:56.880
total record on a second. Attempt and then, uh one

1161
00:55:56.920 --> 00:55:58.840
of my, buddies Christ ella. Fave he's a really really

1162
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:01.440
good multiplied. Deadlift he's got some records and equiped. Lifting

1163
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:06.000
AND i Remember larry outlifted him in the deadlift, raw you,

1164
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:07.960
know which was which was. Cool so we kind OF

1165
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:09.840
i kind of gave him the business a little bit

1166
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:12.719
that our raw guy had the biggest pull of the

1167
00:56:12.760 --> 00:56:14.679
day Because Chris, Chris chris has done like a nine

1168
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.840
hundred pound deadlift in, competition like he's very, accomplished and you,

1169
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:19.440
know we have good, banter but that was it was

1170
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:21.239
a really cool. Day so he had people Like christella,

1171
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:23.559
five really big. GEARLIFTER i want to say he totaled

1172
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:26.519
like twenty six. Hundred larry told a twenty two seventy.

1173
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:28.800
Five it was some really good lifting that. Day it

1174
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:32.880
was actually done At Hastra. University you, know if people

1175
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:35.800
were familiar with with with a long, island and then

1176
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:37.440
you know the other THING i wanted to kind of,

1177
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:41.280
say like to your point about the. Safety so there

1178
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:43.239
was like a video that went, viral WHICH i KNOW

1179
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:46.079
i kind of joked tongue in, cheek but you, Know

1180
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:48.480
larry's cameraman was really happy that they caught this on.

1181
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:50.920
Camera BUT i was benching in a shirt AND i

1182
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.199
was doing a new venture at the, time and it

1183
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:55.400
was like five to. Fifty it wasn't, crazy but you,

1184
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:56.960
know it's still five to, fifty and you, KNOW i

1185
00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:58.320
kind of get out a lot of you, know it

1186
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:01.159
fell back towards my, face and then we had Like

1187
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:05.000
Jesse james West on like the side who he was not,

1188
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:06.880
competent it's.

1189
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:09.840
Spotting didn't know what was going. On he's just like

1190
00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:10.519
deer in a.

1191
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:13.800
Headlights larry grabs it with like one hand and, like you,

1192
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:15.760
know saves my. Life but it was like very close

1193
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:18.000
to my face and, throat and it's one of those

1194
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:19.760
things where like if you don't if you're not like

1195
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:21.599
a attentive and kind of go over those.

1196
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:23.880
Things so it's pretty scary.

1197
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:25.760
Stuff so, yeah it's really important that you have like

1198
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:28.480
the lifter's best interests in, mind and you, know take

1199
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:32.280
your headphones, out pay attention to the, bar don't fixate

1200
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:34.960
on what the weight. Is just be in position before it.

1201
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:38.400
Happens and LIKE i, said that's really crucial in terms

1202
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:41.880
of like a good training partner is going to offer

1203
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:45.559
support and safety first and, foremost and then everything else is.

1204
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:48.519
GRAVY i think that's kind of you're, consistent you're putting

1205
00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:51.559
in good energy to the, session and that's kind of

1206
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:53.360
what we're looking to, foster and ESPECIALLY i, know you,

1207
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:56.079
know As larry builds up the power lifting culture In One,

1208
00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:58.920
gen that's something we try to foster At Gaglion. Strengths you,

1209
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:01.679
KNOW i, said it's gonna be your fifth year anniversary

1210
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:03.039
as a, company AND i think one of the reasons

1211
00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:05.280
that we're still standing as a brick and mortar business

1212
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:07.800
and you, know these hard times is because we have

1213
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:10.000
a good community and we always kind of foster that team.

1214
00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:12.519
Environment that's what we want to have at One gen

1215
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:13.400
on The West coast as.

1216
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:17.239
Well oh that's. Great, YEAH i think that the one

1217
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:20.840
of the worst spotting Fails i've ever seen was the

1218
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:27.360
one that's actually In Power unlimited, yeah, everybody everybody from

1219
00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:29.480
a certain period of time knows that. One, Yeah and

1220
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:33.320
and the issue was that he had a buddy handing

1221
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:36.639
off who was a, bodybuilder not a. Powerlifter H and

1222
00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:39.599
so when he handed the weight off and the center

1223
00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:43.280
guy steps, away because that you, know the most federations

1224
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:46.800
require the the the center lift off guy to get

1225
00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:49.480
out of the out of the, way he also backed,

1226
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:51.519
off and so when the weight started heading, down there

1227
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:55.199
was nobody to catch it but his. Face so it was,

1228
00:58:55.599 --> 00:59:02.880
yeah pretty. Mortifying. Uh, ANYWAY i SINCE i know that

1229
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:08.119
it's getting late In, russia AND i appreciate your time for.

1230
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:11.320
Sure where can people find, You, larry and where can

1231
00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:14.760
they find information about signing it for this? Meet?

1232
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:18.280
Sure and thank you for having. Me and you can

1233
00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:21.320
find me on all socials on the same Handle Larry

1234
00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:25.199
wheels and it's all over my page Over John gaglion's

1235
00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:27.360
page if you want information for the strict curl coming

1236
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.559
up in a few. WEEKS i hope to see you. There,

1237
00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:34.920
ACTUALLY i Know i'm going to get motivated to compete

1238
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:41.000
myself When i'm in that. Environments breaking.

1239
00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:43.119
News you heard it here.

1240
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:48.119
EXACTLY i, mean how can you not you are your.

1241
00:59:48.199 --> 00:59:50.320
Environment you guys are gonna get me fired. Up BUT

1242
00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:53.039
i hope to see you. There and, Again, jim thanks

1243
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:53.360
for having.

1244
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:55.039
Me, yeah thanks for being On.

1245
00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:58.079
John so you can follow me at At Leon's strength

1246
00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:00.880
on all the socials and you definitely follow our yes. Powerlifting,

1247
01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:03.480
yeah feel free to shoot us a message guys if

1248
01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:06.039
you guys want. TO i don't know how many spots will,

1249
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:08.920
have but if you are seriously, interested you, know serious

1250
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:12.039
in crees only, again doesn't matter what your total. Is you,

1251
01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:14.159
know you guys could shoot me A dm At Gagleon's

1252
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:16.119
strength and we'll start to kind of put the fielders. Out,

1253
01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:19.199
also make sure you're following One Gen. Jim and also you,

1254
01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:22.360
KNOW i believe head trainer If Larry i'm speaking out of,

1255
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:24.400
Turn Damian bentley is going to be helping with this

1256
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:27.679
process as. Well he's a good, friend competitive body. Builder

1257
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:29.559
i'm not sure if you just get his pro card or,

1258
01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:32.519
not but he's very high level as, well great culture

1259
01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:34.119
At One. Gen so again we're just trying to kind

1260
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:37.159
of foster that to. Them and AGAIN i really can't

1261
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:40.440
Thank jim enough and fifty Percent facts for just having

1262
01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:43.000
this platform because again at the end of the. DAY

1263
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:46.239
a lot of the stuff That jim has curated over

1264
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:48.320
the years kind of really helped us kind of get

1265
01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:51.480
our message out. There and we, appreciate LIKE i, said you,

1266
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:55.079
know over you, know years and years, later we're still

1267
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:57.840
kind of doing our thing and involved in this crazy

1268
01:00:57.880 --> 01:00:59.639
strength community we.

1269
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:03.679
COME i appreciate the kind words. There, YEAH i have

1270
01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:06.639
to have to say, that like in in the era

1271
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:11.159
of social, handles it took me a while to actually,

1272
01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:13.360
that for to dawn on me that you that you

1273
01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:18.320
had a real last, Name. Larry part of me was

1274
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:21.079
just like. Wheels AND i will freely admit that that

1275
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:23.000
back in the day when we Had juji Mufu, ON

1276
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:24.840
i just thought that was his. NAME i thought it

1277
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:27.280
was just like, share you, know just like one word that's.

1278
01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:30.519
It so EVENTUALLY i learned that he had a real.

1279
01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:35.360
Name so, anyway, uh people who are interested in in

1280
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:39.159
uh in you, know having the potential chance to train

1281
01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:42.519
With larry and and they're serious about, IT i think

1282
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.480
that you, should uh should jump in there and and

1283
01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:49.480
and find out and and my uh my caveat that

1284
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:51.519
that you guys aren't saying is like just like check

1285
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:54.400
your ego at the. Door about it and and be

1286
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:58.000
willing to to to. Give if you, give you'll. Get

1287
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:01.760
that's that's that's really the you, know the bottom line

1288
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:05.320
of it is that it's it's mutually been a mutually beneficial. Situation,

1289
01:02:06.719 --> 01:02:09.039
Anyway this is this show is fifty percent. Facts for

1290
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:11.239
percent is a word and fifty is just. Numbers fifty percent.

1291
01:02:11.239 --> 01:02:13.400
Facts this is A Spreaker prime podcast and association With

1292
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:15.840
Ourheart media on The Obscure Celebrity network AND i will

1293
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:18.639
talk to you next. Time thanks a, Lot, Ice thanks

1294
01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:18.719
you