Larry Wheels with John Gaglione | The Power of Resilience

WEBVTT

1
00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:10.199
All right, looks like we're running here.

2
00:00:11.199 --> 00:00:11.640
Welcome.

3
00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:16.480
I've got Larry Wheels and John gagleone with me this morning.

4
00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:22.199
We're recording on a Sunday and right after the time change,

5
00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:24.760
so nobody's body knows what time it is right now.

6
00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:31.239
That's that's clear. That's clear. How are you guys doing today?

7
00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:34.079
I'm doing all right. I'm still in Russia. I fly back.

8
00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:37.640
I start my journey back home tomorrow with a stop

9
00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:40.159
in Istanbul for a day and then finally missed and

10
00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:41.000
bolt lax.

11
00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:43.719
Wow, I had no idea you were in Russia.

12
00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:47.079
That's great, all the different time zones.

13
00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:51.280
Yeah, but what time is it there? It's ten o'clock

14
00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:56.600
on the on the Pacific Pacific daylight time. Now what

15
00:00:57.119 --> 00:00:57.799
time is it there?

16
00:00:58.359 --> 00:00:59.560
It's nine pm here?

17
00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:05.280
Nine pm? Oh my goodness. Yeah. And John is in

18
00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:08.359
what you're in the Eastern daylight zone.

19
00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:09.040
Yeah, so that's one.

20
00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:11.959
Even since moving, you know, I still never got out

21
00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:15.879
of that time zone, so stuck in the same time zone.

22
00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:17.439
But yeah, like we had we had a like I said,

23
00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:20.280
late late night as well. But it'll be good energy.

24
00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:23.079
It's good to have, like, you know, it's kind of funny.

25
00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:27.000
I think like part of when we all first got together.

26
00:01:27.040 --> 00:01:29.200
It was kind of I think a big breaking point

27
00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:31.359
for like all of us in our kind of power

28
00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:33.760
Loopton careers, if you will, if that's such a thing.

29
00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:36.439
So it's just cool to like, you know, get everyone

30
00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:39.359
kind of back together and hop on and catch up.

31
00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:43.319
Yeah, yeah, for sure, it was. We're talking about it.

32
00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:46.920
I mean, you guys were on the old podcast like

33
00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:49.319
in twenty sixteen ish, So I think it was like

34
00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:55.400
maybe before Larry's world record maybe.

35
00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:58.480
I think I think I've kind of for people that

36
00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:01.159
are watching the video after the I'm wearing his shirt.

37
00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:05.480
So I think the first time after the two forty

38
00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:08.240
two record was I think when we kind of all

39
00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:11.680
got together. I think, or it might have been. Well,

40
00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:13.919
so I don't know if we talked about this last

41
00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:16.439
time or not. So Larry had the world record for

42
00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:19.080
like about zero point two seconds, and then Andrew Herbert

43
00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:21.919
like and then they both ended up missing their last deadlift,

44
00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:25.319
so Andrew Herbert had it for right, yeah, eight weeks

45
00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:26.960
or so, and then we kind of went back to

46
00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:30.879
the you know, the record breakers meet at a combat

47
00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:34.080
sports academy and then we you know, Larry retook it

48
00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:35.680
back and kind of upped it by like a big

49
00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:38.000
margin and kind of stood. That record stood for quite

50
00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:40.599
quite a while. And like I said, if not for

51
00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:42.840
some accidents at the at the current US Open, it

52
00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:45.199
would have been you know, set even higher. You know,

53
00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:47.800
you know, I guess we could all like talk a

54
00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:51.159
little smack and whatever, but but Larry was on pace

55
00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:52.439
to kind of up it more, and then we kind

56
00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:54.240
of decided that he kind of out grew the two

57
00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:57.000
forty twos. But yeah, that was kind of the first

58
00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:00.400
the first of many runs at many world It was

59
00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:03.560
a good, like like a good five year like kind

60
00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:05.719
of run at like world records and different weight classes,

61
00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:08.240
and that was kind of like the start of his

62
00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:11.439
kind of powerlifting rain if if you will, you know.

63
00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:15.960
So, Yeah, yeah, it was a different time in lifting

64
00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:20.080
for sure. I mean we I think that we discussed

65
00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:25.479
the last time that that people lifted more and cruise

66
00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:28.080
like you had people around you, even if you were

67
00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:30.680
at a certain point, even if you were a raw lifter,

68
00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:33.639
and being lifting in gear pretty much required having people

69
00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:35.159
around you because you had to get in and out

70
00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:38.759
of the stuff. I mean, it was it was challenging.

71
00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:40.560
You didn't have the help and didn't have the spotters,

72
00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:44.400
and you were, you know, handling weights that you would

73
00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:48.000
handle raw. It's a it was a whole thing. It was.

74
00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:53.319
It was just this that flavor of the sport demanded

75
00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:57.759
having people around you for the most part, and just

76
00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:00.319
it was a different time. I don't know now it

77
00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:02.560
is it's hard to put together a crew. I see

78
00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:05.680
and like I own a jim and I see people lifting,

79
00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:07.800
but they come in like when they have time and

80
00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:11.240
not not Okay, I'm meeting so and so and so

81
00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:13.280
and so and so and so, and we're we're going

82
00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:16.199
to lift together on the same bar, We're going to

83
00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:18.680
change plates in between, we're gonna do all that stuff.

84
00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:21.480
And now it's like it's a little bit a little

85
00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:24.959
bit of a lone ranger situation for most of them.

86
00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:27.720
Yeah, Lar, do you have any like memories of when

87
00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:31.600
we kind of first started training together at in Farming?

88
00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:33.600
Do I know, even our first like workout together there

89
00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:37.240
was like multiple seven hundred pound deadlifters in the room,

90
00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:39.680
which was so what was that kind of like for

91
00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:41.480
you at just being nineteen year Because I'm sure you,

92
00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:43.600
even as strong as you were, you probably never seen

93
00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:46.240
or trained with guys like that in that type of environment.

94
00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:47.199
So what was that like for you?

95
00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:49.680
Just kind of starting out kind of a young young

96
00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:52.319
man and just trying to, you know, find his way.

97
00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:57.759
Sure, So it was a mutual friend of ours, Kevin Oak,

98
00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:00.240
that introduced me to John. We went out there there

99
00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:05.480
for a delive party and I was spoiled at that

100
00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:07.319
time because I always had a work up part in it.

101
00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:09.680
Since my first day in the gym. I always had

102
00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:13.480
a strong support from a community. Everyone wherever I was

103
00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:16.399
training was very keen on helping me out and wanted

104
00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:20.199
me to succeed. And oddly enough, now I'm thirty, have

105
00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:23.480
my own gym. I've never went longer and it did

106
00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:27.560
more training sessions alone in my life, and it's definitely

107
00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:31.480
been a compromised to my training and my ambition. And

108
00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:35.639
it's something that I took for granted at that time,

109
00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:38.480
something I thought was just normal and I didn't realize

110
00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:41.800
how I shield the community I had was And now

111
00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:45.160
I'm more fired up than ever to bring that back.

112
00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:49.240
Yeah, I can understand that. Like now, I work out

113
00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:51.519
alone because I'm not doing anything that anybody's going to

114
00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:53.360
be interested in. I'm not trying to powerlift, I'm not

115
00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:57.240
doing competition lifts for the most part, you know, so

116
00:05:57.319 --> 00:05:58.920
I can handle it and I got you know, I'm

117
00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:01.839
managing my time or whatever. But I do miss those days,

118
00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:06.759
and especially I miss, uh sort of the challenge you know,

119
00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:11.879
of of not necessarily keeping up with people, but like

120
00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.720
like keeping her just the same distance I guess between

121
00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:17.639
between myself and somebody else and maybe just like inching

122
00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:20.879
up on a little I was so I was so

123
00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:23.639
much older and just not like a not at all

124
00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:26.839
a competitive lifter before I before I started. I mean

125
00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:29.879
it was over forty when I when I started lifting,

126
00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:34.720
And I don't necessarily recommend people waiting that long, but

127
00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:37.439
uh yeah, I mean you were you were young when

128
00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:40.720
you got into this this uh this whole sport. Like

129
00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:44.800
what question I have? We were I think we talked

130
00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:47.680
about this last time, John, that like it is difficult

131
00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:52.439
for a young person to sustain a career in powerlifting

132
00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:55.120
or I mean a lot of a lot of sports,

133
00:06:55.120 --> 00:07:00.000
but it's it's difficult for someone who has early success

134
00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:05.800
to keep going because the improvements become like incremental over time,

135
00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:11.000
and the injuries mount, you know for sure, because if

136
00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:14.360
you're pushing it like hard all the way if you

137
00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:20.079
could tell yourself something about those conditions when you first started,

138
00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:22.920
if you could like speak to younger Larry, like, what

139
00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:23.759
would you tell him?

140
00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:29.000
I would tell younger Larry what I tell everybody that

141
00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:31.720
asked me for advice I expose or at the gym

142
00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:34.399
or in passing to just stick to the program. The

143
00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:38.439
only time I ever got injured or didn't peak properly

144
00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:43.079
was when I went off program for attention because the

145
00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:46.759
crew was hyping me up because I was impulsive. Powerlifting

146
00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:49.639
is a game of restraint. It takes immense amount of

147
00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:51.759
self control. When you walk in the gym, you feel

148
00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:55.079
like Superman. Everything feels extra light, and you have to

149
00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:57.879
tell yourself, no, I can't push my limits today. And

150
00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:00.800
pushing the limits is the fun part. And I believe

151
00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:02.959
that's why many people love bodybuilding, because you can go

152
00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:06.480
into a bodybuilding workout through set to ten, twenty thirty

153
00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:10.680
to failure and really push your limit every workout still

154
00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:13.720
get progress. But you do then powerlifting, you're seeing us

155
00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:16.199
won't recover. Your train will be compromised, right Like, you

156
00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:19.120
have to stick to the program and hold yourself back

157
00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:21.560
when you don't want to. And I've struggled with that

158
00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:22.519
since day one.

159
00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:28.399
Yeah, I could remember a time curious, Larry, what if

160
00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:30.839
you could pinpoint it? But like there was definitely like

161
00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:36.200
the early days where maybe listening was was not really happening,

162
00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:38.600
and I know you bombed out of a few meets,

163
00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:42.120
but then when you got that invite to boss the bosses,

164
00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:44.320
I feel like a switch kind of flipped. And then

165
00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:45.559
so I don't know if that was the kind of

166
00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:48.120
the defining moment, but can you remember, like when do

167
00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:51.080
you decide okay, like maybe I should you know, start

168
00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:53.799
like kind of you know, being a little bit more compliant,

169
00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:56.919
communicating a little bit better, maybe you know, listening to coach.

170
00:08:58.080 --> 00:08:59.480
You know what was that kind of like? And then

171
00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:01.279
it was there any kind of moment you can kind

172
00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:03.840
of remember where you're like, Okay, let me give this

173
00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:04.559
a shot and.

174
00:09:04.480 --> 00:09:06.399
Then you know kind of see what happens.

175
00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:09.960
Well, bombing out of those meets is what really sparked

176
00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:12.080
that fire for me to take this more seriously and

177
00:09:12.159 --> 00:09:15.759
understand the importance of good communication with you, John, and

178
00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:20.320
how just a strong discuss with that feeling of damn,

179
00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:22.600
I didn't even get to finish the meet, and I

180
00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:25.639
spent so many weeks or whatever. It was months preparing

181
00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:27.320
for this day and I couldn't even finish, you know.

182
00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:30.000
So there's no worse feeling for a power lepter than that, right,

183
00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:32.240
bombing out, not even making it to the end. And

184
00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:33.919
I never wanted to feel that way again.

185
00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:38.759
Having bombed in a few meets myself, usually on the

186
00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:42.919
squad always geared just not and depth, always on depth,

187
00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:44.799
you know, just like you just can't get down to

188
00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:49.000
a certain point. And I think that you know, part

189
00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:51.879
of part of that was was you know, the weight

190
00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:55.600
that you needed to gain to be competitive in the

191
00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:58.600
in the equipment, and then the way you had to

192
00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:01.879
cut to make weight for the meat, and then what

193
00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:03.799
you know, when it comes back on, where does it

194
00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:06.320
go right? And and so your stuff fits differently and

195
00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:09.200
you can't can't get down. But I feel like you

196
00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:16.080
were an extension of a time where like uh Stan Efforting,

197
00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:19.320
you know, kind of took the took the stage in

198
00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:24.840
two thousand and nine ish twenty ten and and was

199
00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:28.399
very strong obviously, but was also you know, had aesthetics

200
00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:32.759
to his physique where he was you know, Dan Green

201
00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:36.440
another one who who always you know, looked more like

202
00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:40.279
a bodybuilder than a powerlifter that a traditional powerlifter at

203
00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:46.159
that time, Well, what did you always have like a

204
00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:49.399
dual drive about how you looked at and and how

205
00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:53.879
how strong you were or was it was it one

206
00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:54.840
and then the other or.

207
00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:59.679
Yeah. I always wanted to maintain, maintain some level of

208
00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:01.960
a build their aesthetic because I knew that's what would

209
00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:05.679
make me stand out from all the other powerlifters. And

210
00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:07.720
that's how it can make a steak for myself in

211
00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:12.480
the sport, besides taking with records, and I understood that

212
00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:15.240
to try and make a business out of it, it

213
00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:17.360
would be easier, you know, if I look the part.

214
00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:19.360
You know, if I had APP, if I had APS

215
00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:21.639
and I was able to look I was lifting, it

216
00:11:21.639 --> 00:11:25.080
would be easier to stand out. So when I was

217
00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:29.759
actively competing, although I did frequently have cheat meals and

218
00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:33.039
slip up on my diet, it was pretty clean. I

219
00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:37.000
was having chicken bee fish with lots of rice, and

220
00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.399
that was my diet for a long time. Especially when

221
00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:42.080
I turn off that switch and I said, okay, now

222
00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:45.159
it's time to lock in and get ready for competition,

223
00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:49.759
all those bad habits usually went away. It's only when

224
00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:52.039
I was in the off season and I'm not actively

225
00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:55.399
preparing for a goal. Did I just have no motivation

226
00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:58.559
to eat clean, to train hard, to be smart, and

227
00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:00.480
bad habits get the best of me, and it's time

228
00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:04.200
to prepare for competition that switches on and down.

229
00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:09.120
Then I'm amazed at you know, our our gym has

230
00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:13.799
kind of a majority of younger, sort of twenties thirties

231
00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:21.240
USA pl or Powerlifting America lifters. And because they don't

232
00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:24.960
have the luxury of twenty four our weigh ins and

233
00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.480
and and all, their their weight is pretty consistent all

234
00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:30.600
the time, and they all look jacked. They don't necessarily

235
00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:33.840
look like bodybuilders, but they look they all look fit,

236
00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:38.600
they all have abs. It's it's it's disgusting, really, it's

237
00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:41.639
it's like, how are you? You know? And then you

238
00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:44.600
remember that they were young, and that they they never

239
00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:48.039
really they never really put on those extra extra pounds.

240
00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:52.240
And we have one competitor who who dropped a weight

241
00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:56.320
class in the last year or so, and he didn't

242
00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:59.440
look bad before, and now he's just shredded all the time.

243
00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:00.159
And and.

244
00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:05.000
You know, some of them start to get the you know, like,

245
00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.039
oh maybe I could compete in bodybuilding, and then you know,

246
00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:12.279
that's that's a totally different experience for them. It's not

247
00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:15.960
you know, they're not chasing chasing numbers the same way

248
00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:20.480
that they are chasing what happens in the mirror. So yeah,

249
00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:24.279
it's just it's an interesting contrast to to when I started,

250
00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:25.159
you know, twenty years ago.

251
00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:28.279
I think you mentioned Stan.

252
00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:30.679
I think he was definitely instrumental in both of our

253
00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:34.159
kind of learnings of nutrition, especially you know, obviously vertical

254
00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:37.240
diet got really popular used by a lot of strength athletes,

255
00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:39.600
and we definitely took notes learned a lot from him.

256
00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:44.399
And what's really interesting as well, you know, obviously Eric

257
00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:46.639
kllilla Bridge is really famous. You know his that was

258
00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:48.879
a three o eight record that Larry Brooke, but some

259
00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:51.559
people may not know the two forty two record that

260
00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:54.840
was broken was originally obviously Andrew Herbert. Boy he's been

261
00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:57.519
doing to bodybuilding as well, but the original record was

262
00:13:57.600 --> 00:13:59.919
John Rivers. And John Rivers actually just turned pro with

263
00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:02.559
well he's out in Virginia now, so we actually got

264
00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:04.759
to So it's just kind of funny to seeing all

265
00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:06.720
these guys come full circle. So there definitely is like

266
00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:09.000
a little bit more crossover that I think we're seeing

267
00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.960
with some of these like high level powerlifters sometimes either

268
00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:15.320
transitioning over full time or kind of dabbling a little

269
00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:17.200
bit in both. And obviously Stan was like the most

270
00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:20.279
you know, famous example, and I think before then, you know,

271
00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:22.240
we got our information, like you know, we had the

272
00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:23.360
Oreo Challenge, the.

273
00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:29.279
Dave Tate Dave Tate's Oreo Challenge, and then you know,

274
00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:29.919
like J. M.

275
00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:32.360
Blakely, like put alve oyl on pizza and you know,

276
00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:35.480
you know that those have at MSG to your Chinese

277
00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:38.600
food or even more so, so you get hungry again.

278
00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:40.440
I mean that was kind of like the knowledge that

279
00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:43.399
we kind of and like kind of the older generation

280
00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:45.960
of the gearedlifters just got get as bloated as I

281
00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.840
had a trading partner my first benchure. It was a

282
00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:52.639
guy Chris Taylor, and he taught me along with Vitie

283
00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:54.279
descendso taught me how to bench and a shirt. And

284
00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:56.600
Chris Taylor always would he would drink like a leader

285
00:14:56.639 --> 00:15:00.039
of like Coca Cola so that he would have the

286
00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:03.559
bench belly, and that was like his I remember, and

287
00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:05.039
he was a big I think he I don't know

288
00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:07.000
if he ever did it. I don't think you ever

289
00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:08.480
did in competition, but I saw him like do like

290
00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:10.519
nine hundred to like a one board, which is you know,

291
00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:12.919
in like one of those Phenom shirts, and like that

292
00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:15.200
was his like you know, he drank the soda and

293
00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:17.399
he got this big belly so he didn't have to

294
00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:20.039
bring it down as far. And that was the nutrition

295
00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:23.679
aspect definitely changed a lot, like over the years.

296
00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:29.159
Yeah, there's I mean whether or not everything that everyone

297
00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:31.440
is doing for health and wellness at this point is

298
00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:34.639
actually like legitimate or scientific or whatever. There's a lot

299
00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:37.000
of people who are really trying to concentrate on it

300
00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:39.360
in their own way, and it is still there's still

301
00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:42.080
a lot of you know, like bro science, Like you're

302
00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:46.440
talking about, you know, Oreo challenge. I remember that I

303
00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:48.200
never did that. I mean I like Oreos, but I

304
00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:50.559
couldn't eat that many logos. I mean I could demolish

305
00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:52.960
the sleeve and then I'm done. I'm done with Oreos

306
00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:53.480
at that point.

307
00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.720
But Jim, what was your diet like when you're actively competing.

308
00:15:57.360 --> 00:16:00.679
When I was actively competing, Like I when I when

309
00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:02.600
I started powerlett thing, I had never weighed more than

310
00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:05.399
one hundred and eighty five pounds and I started going

311
00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:08.720
over to a gym in the Bay Area. I live

312
00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:11.399
in Sacramento, so it's was about an hour or so

313
00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:17.279
away one way, and I was called the Apple Barbelle,

314
00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:20.720
and I was like, suggested I should just eat a

315
00:16:20.759 --> 00:16:23.600
lot more than what I was eating, and so it

316
00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:26.159
was it was just whatever. Really it was like a

317
00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:28.320
lot a lot of meat, a lot of protein, like

318
00:16:28.440 --> 00:16:31.039
you know, a lot of barbecue places where you got

319
00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:33.879
the platter that was, you know, like this big and

320
00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.679
just full of five different kinds of meats and you know,

321
00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:42.200
sausages and cheese, and you know, that was in pretty

322
00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:45.679
sharp contrast to what I've been doing before. Like I

323
00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:49.759
gained about fifteen pounds clean in my late thirties, like

324
00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.320
I had that was sort of my lowest body fat

325
00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:56.639
and I was I was just not eating any of

326
00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:58.799
that stuff. I just just wasn't at all. And I'm

327
00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:03.279
kind of back there now. I don't eat a lot

328
00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:07.000
of beef and stuff. I still eat a lot of

329
00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:09.039
chicken and all. You know, just I mean, it doesn't

330
00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:10.720
look like a bodybuilder diet, but it doesn't look like

331
00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:14.319
an old powerlifter diet either. Back then, it was just

332
00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:16.920
it was the issue of like you know, trying to

333
00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:19.400
gain weight, and I think my biggest squat was like

334
00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:23.240
six fifty and that was too fourteen. Like I couldn't

335
00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.640
fill out the two twenties at that point. It was

336
00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:31.960
just kind of a struggle to get there, honestly. And

337
00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.920
then you know, at some point I also then just

338
00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:36.559
didn't fill out to two forty two, so I just

339
00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:41.240
couldn't you know, two twenty was too hard, But but

340
00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:44.160
two forty two was, you know, a light two forty two.

341
00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:54.680
I guess. Excuse me. We were talking about about cruise

342
00:17:55.400 --> 00:18:00.880
and John intimated that you you were to try to

343
00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:05.720
get a crew together at some point here around your

344
00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:07.480
gym in southern California.

345
00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:13.519
Oh absolutely. And over the years, I've had various people

346
00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:17.359
attempt to train with me, and unfortunately, many of them

347
00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:19.920
get discouraged because they think, well, I can't keep up

348
00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:22.880
with you, you're too strong, and I think a lot of

349
00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.359
the time they're missing the point. I need somebody that

350
00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:27.839
wants to push themselves as much as I do, and

351
00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:30.359
we're working towards the same goal. We're trying to get

352
00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:33.960
stronger and better. Because it's inspiring and motivating for me

353
00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:37.160
to watch somebody push themselves. I don't care how much

354
00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:39.720
they're lifting. I just want to see them try and

355
00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:42.359
be a better version of themselves and be willing to

356
00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:44.559
put in the work. And that's what inspires me and

357
00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:47.720
gets me fired up. If they're as strong as me,

358
00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:51.279
or even stronger, that's a bonus, but it's not what

359
00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:53.839
I'm looking forward to make it work. So to surround

360
00:18:53.880 --> 00:18:56.759
myself with the community of powerlifters or just people that

361
00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:00.759
want to be strong and are willing to push themselves

362
00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:03.000
and put in the work alongside me is what I'm

363
00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:03.440
looking for.

364
00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:08.359
Yeah, I remember that. Like when I my first exposure

365
00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:11.240
to to powerlifter I was in powerlifting is I was

366
00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:16.480
invited to go watch the the APF State meet in

367
00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:24.519
like two thousand fourish, And what got me was watching

368
00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:28.680
how people approached their lifts like and when they came

369
00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:32.000
on the platform, you know that you could see what,

370
00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:34.720
you know, the wheels turning in their heads about about

371
00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:37.640
you know, getting into the right position and having the

372
00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:41.880
right having the right mindset to get through a lift

373
00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:44.920
and just the struggle and the strain and all that stuff.

374
00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:47.039
And it didn't it didn't matter how much they were lifting,

375
00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:49.920
it was what their were approach was and I think

376
00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:52.839
that I think that what you're talking about people being

377
00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:55.640
nervous about training with you because they're they're not as strong.

378
00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:58.359
It's the same kind of notion that keeps people from

379
00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:01.279
doing their first meat because they feel like, oh, I

380
00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:03.160
need to be strong enough to do whatever whatever, And

381
00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:06.160
it's like, no, you don't, not really. What you need

382
00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:09.839
to do is have honest effort. And and now, if

383
00:20:09.880 --> 00:20:11.960
you have honest effort, that reflects in your face, it

384
00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:15.519
reflects in how you prepare yourself, it reflects in how

385
00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:21.160
you approach the meat itself, like your demeanor, all of that.

386
00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:24.400
That's so much more important than what than than the weights,

387
00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:30.319
like I mean winning a meat, like winning winning your

388
00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:33.440
weight class and a meat usually means you get a

389
00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:37.160
little freaking plastic medallion or you get a little trophy

390
00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:39.480
or whatever, and you get a little bit of bragging

391
00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:42.279
rights for a minute, but none of that really matters.

392
00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:46.279
What matters is that you you prepared yourself for for

393
00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:50.960
a competition and you attempted to perform your best. That's

394
00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:53.839
that's what matters. And I think that's probably gonna be

395
00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:55.920
the same same thing if you're able to put it

396
00:20:55.960 --> 00:21:00.000
together a crew, it's just people showing up, being consistent

397
00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:02.079
and putting in their best effort.

398
00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:06.240
Yeah, one thing I wanted to highlight for the audience.

399
00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:09.440
And again sometimes when throughout numbers, it's like good or

400
00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:11.880
bad because some people can relate. Some people even think

401
00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:14.000
like because for a lot of people, even like a

402
00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:17.000
three plate or four plate squad is tremendous, and it

403
00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:21.519
absolutely is for the average person. So like when Larry

404
00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:23.160
was kind of getting started, and I would say he

405
00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:26.599
was probably around like a nineteen one hundred total, which

406
00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:29.480
is still like that's a person's dream still, you know,

407
00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:33.319
that's an amazing you know, nine hundred kilos eight fifty,

408
00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:36.319
you know, that's a huge total. But anyways, our kind

409
00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:40.599
of typical squad crew. You know, I was one of

410
00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:43.000
you know, the few people still in paralatin gear. I was,

411
00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:45.400
you know, cheating to keep up with all the young

412
00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:48.480
bucks and everything. And that's still true to this day.

413
00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:52.319
I was kind of in like the eight hundred to

414
00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:54.319
eight to fifty range at the time. I would say

415
00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:57.319
when when Larry came on, because I did my first

416
00:21:57.359 --> 00:21:59.759
eight hundred pounds squad, I did eight fifty and twenty

417
00:21:59.799 --> 00:22:02.240
three teen was the first time a squad eight hundred

418
00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:06.279
plus pounds. We had Dominici, and Dominici is a great

419
00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:08.480
training partner. He ended up squatting nine hundred pounds in

420
00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:11.599
just nee sleeves, which is still like a very still

421
00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:14.519
extremely rare feet. I don't know if you remember or

422
00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:18.920
if we talked about Michael Song's list, but Dominici was

423
00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:20.559
the first guy that actually and I don't even know

424
00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:23.920
if they still have the curated list anymore, but Dominici

425
00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:26.160
was the first guy to make the two thousand pound

426
00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:30.640
Raw Hall of Fame. He did that and squatting was

427
00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:32.519
his best left he was an eight hundred plus squadter.

428
00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:35.759
Then we had Mark Greenstein, who is our best lightweight guy.

429
00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:39.000
He did a nineteen hundred pound two twenty and then

430
00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:40.880
he did an eighteen twenty five and he ended up

431
00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:43.079
being like a seven hundred pound squadter. And then we

432
00:22:43.119 --> 00:22:45.799
had one of my training partners, Eric Prush, and he

433
00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:48.279
was my first coach and he has his own business

434
00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:50.720
now and he was more of like a deadlift guy,

435
00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:52.119
but he was like a five hundred pound squad So

436
00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:54.599
we had people like from the five hundred pound range

437
00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:57.519
to eight hundred pound range, all in the same model

438
00:22:57.559 --> 00:22:59.440
of so like we took plates off, wasn't a.

439
00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:01.200
Big deal me all, and everyone was great.

440
00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:03.599
And but by the time when I got to deadlift day,

441
00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:05.240
you know, Eric Prush, he was like the low man

442
00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:07.200
on the totem pole for squats, but then he would

443
00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:08.799
kick my ass because he was like a seven hundred

444
00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:09.480
plus deadlifter.

445
00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:11.839
So we all kind of took our lick. Sometimes. We

446
00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:12.960
all had strengths and weaknesses.

447
00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:15.000
And then you have people like Larry was just good,

448
00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:17.680
good at every lift and he figures, you know, so

449
00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:19.960
he's always that's always like annoying, but it's good to

450
00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:22.240
like kind of push and then you kind of have

451
00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:23.799
your day. You know, you'll have a lift that you

452
00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:26.000
kind of excel with and it was kind of fun.

453
00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:27.559
So like I'm squat day, like you know, I would

454
00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:30.200
be the one, you know, the last man standing most

455
00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:31.480
of the time, and I would you know, throw the

456
00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:34.119
knee wraps on the canvas suit and do what I

457
00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:35.480
can to kind of you know, do a little bit

458
00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:37.200
more than the next guy, because you know, eventually, like

459
00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.920
I said, Dom ended up, you know, dominded up kind

460
00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:42.680
of tying my best squad and just knee sleeves, which

461
00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:46.079
you know, before he was done, which is incredible. And

462
00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:47.640
then you know he had some people like and I know,

463
00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:49.720
like Larry Larry could speak to this too. I know

464
00:23:49.720 --> 00:23:52.400
that Larry got a lot more confidence in me as

465
00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:54.599
a coach because Dom and Mark were those were all

466
00:23:54.599 --> 00:23:57.319
homegrown guys. We were all we grew up in Plane Edge,

467
00:23:57.359 --> 00:23:59.720
New York. You know, all from the same town and

468
00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:04.039
North Massapequa. We all played football together and wrestled and

469
00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:06.319
like so it kind of like, you know, again I

470
00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:08.200
don't want to compare myself to Louis, but kind of

471
00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:10.559
similar where a lot of Louis's first elite lifters they

472
00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:13.759
were just hometown guys from Columbus, and I was trying

473
00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:15.880
to create something similar on like a like a on

474
00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.359
a lower scale in Long Island. But a lot of

475
00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:21.000
our guys were homegrown and even you know, Larry Larry

476
00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:22.480
basically was homegrown too.

477
00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:24.279
He just came in from the Bronx. But so, I

478
00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:25.559
don't know if you can kind of talk to.

479
00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:27.920
Like the difference in like the training partners and then

480
00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:29.400
you know, if you guys and also maybe at some

481
00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:32.240
point we could talk about you know, the importance of

482
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:34.799
the train your long term training partner of Black Time Cruise.

483
00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:36.359
But what was it like having those different.

484
00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:38.640
Levels of ability levels and some people maybe were good

485
00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:40.880
at knee wrapping, some people were good at other things.

486
00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:42.839
You know, what are some things that you would like

487
00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:44.880
remember from those times, like those early days.

488
00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:50.839
Sure so, Black Time Cruise was my longest standing workout partner,

489
00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:53.440
and many myself included, will agree he's the greatest hype

490
00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:56.400
man of all time. And that's something that I'm not

491
00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:58.480
sure he gets talked about often in the communities about

492
00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:00.759
like having a great hype man and not necessarily just

493
00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:06.599
a great workout partner, but somebody that makes the training

494
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:09.240
more fun. Like he just brought so much energy and

495
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:12.759
charisma at every session that it made I took so

496
00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:15.839
much more pleasure just showing up because a lot of

497
00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:17.440
the time I knew Black Time Crew was going to

498
00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:21.279
be there, and his ban tour was just second to none,

499
00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:25.319
and he made lifting like the best social event I

500
00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:28.160
could think of, you know, Like, why bother doing anything

501
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:31.079
else when I have people like Black Time Cruise around

502
00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:34.400
every workout session, every training session, you know, not just

503
00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:36.839
to lift with, but also to laugh with, you know,

504
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:40.200
And that's what I found. Black Tom Cruise was the

505
00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:41.720
greatest at you know, he had a great sense of

506
00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:45.279
humor and even when I was getting down on myself

507
00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.039
or whatever, you know, So having someone like that just

508
00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:50.319
always keep your spirits high. He was the most positive

509
00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:52.640
person ever met, right. I never, like, even when his

510
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:55.160
dad passed away, Like this guy never had a negative

511
00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:58.400
thing to say about himself or about you know. It's51200:25:58.440 --> 00:26:01.400



just like he was so positive and that was so51300:26:01.519 --> 00:26:03.799



valuable to me because he always kept me uplifted. And51400:26:05.079 --> 00:26:08.079



that's what you know, ideally in the perfect world I'm51500:26:08.119 --> 00:26:10.720



looking for and you know, my community that I'm trying51600:26:10.720 --> 00:26:13.920



to build that one gen you know, not just people51700:26:13.960 --> 00:26:18.359



that are serious, hardcore powerlifters, but also know how to51800:26:18.400 --> 00:26:20.039



have a good time with it too, you know, and51900:26:20.119 --> 00:26:21.480



keep spirit time and be positive.52000:26:27.400 --> 00:26:30.400



Yeah, that's that can be hard to maintain. And that's52100:26:30.480 --> 00:26:31.920



I mean, it's great that you you had that. It52200:26:31.960 --> 00:26:33.599



can be hard to maintain when you have a bunch52300:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.440



of strong personalities. I can just tell you from my52400:26:36.519 --> 00:26:39.160



perspective that back in the old lest he days, it52500:26:39.319 --> 00:26:43.200



was sometimes touch and go. Honestly, there were you know,52600:26:43.279 --> 00:26:46.039



there were there were egos, there were a lot of uh,52700:26:46.119 --> 00:26:48.440



there's a little dust ups sometimes in the gym, and52800:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.440



it's like I used to I used to always think52900:26:51.440 --> 00:26:54.359



about like and partly because I was recording a lot53000:26:54.400 --> 00:26:57.359



of training sessions, but I always used to think of53100:26:57.400 --> 00:26:59.880



them like as episodes. It's like this is an episode53200:26:59.880 --> 00:27:01.960



of reality show. And that's really sort of I mean,53300:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.119



it's almost became a reality show a couple of times53400:27:05.720 --> 00:27:09.039



where where people just rubbed each other the wrong way.53500:27:09.160 --> 00:27:12.240



And you know, in competition, in moments of competition, people53600:27:12.720 --> 00:27:18.640



always rooted for their teammates, but sometimes in training there53700:27:18.680 --> 00:27:24.200



could be friction for sure, and I don't know, some53800:27:24.240 --> 00:27:28.200



people can handle that and and just you know, sort53900:27:28.200 --> 00:27:30.880



of sort of let the water off a ducts back54000:27:30.880 --> 00:27:33.000



and not care about it, and other people like hold54100:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.920



on to it for a long time. So anyway, I'm54200:27:34.960 --> 00:27:37.640



just saying it can be hard to develop that when54300:27:37.680 --> 00:27:40.119



you have a bunch of strong personalities. And it sounds54400:27:40.160 --> 00:27:43.480



like you were you guys were able to avoid that.54500:27:44.160 --> 00:27:48.119



Well, I will say. I'd say like when I was54600:27:48.200 --> 00:27:50.599



at the time, I was still a special education teacher,54700:27:50.640 --> 00:27:53.880



and a lot of us would train U basically after54800:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.359



seven o'clock. We always joke, you don't know what goes54900:27:56.400 --> 00:27:58.119



on after seven so all like the women and the55000:27:58.200 --> 00:28:01.640



children and the kids the athletes, doors would close lock55100:28:01.880 --> 00:28:03.680



like only if you weren't part of the paler lating team.55200:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.240



So it definitely was a similar kind of vibe. And55300:28:06.319 --> 00:28:09.079



over the years the culture at Gagoleon Strength has shifted.55400:28:09.880 --> 00:28:13.960



When I spend a little bit more time. In twenty seventeen,55500:28:14.000 --> 00:28:16.599



I spent a week a week long I called my55600:28:16.640 --> 00:28:19.559



Westside pilgrimage. It's maybe maybe being a little bit over dramatic,55700:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.000



but I spent a week with Louis. I trained with55800:28:23.000 --> 00:28:26.880



like Anthony Olavera, Jason Koker. Trying to think who else55900:28:26.960 --> 00:28:29.720



was there. I I kind of, you know, kind of56000:28:29.759 --> 00:28:31.960



I called like an observational internship, but basically I would56100:28:31.960 --> 00:28:33.720



just kind of I observed with Louis.56200:28:33.759 --> 00:28:34.839



I kind of learned under Louis.56300:28:34.920 --> 00:28:36.640



You know, we went to the bob Evans, we went56400:28:36.720 --> 00:28:39.559



you know, to you know, to breakfast, all those things.56500:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.599



So at that time we had there was some people,56600:28:43.640 --> 00:28:45.200



you know, there was some falling out some of the56700:28:45.240 --> 00:28:47.160



people I mentioned, like, there was times where like we56800:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.359



weren't speaking. There was times where like people were kicked56900:28:49.400 --> 00:28:50.720



out of the gym. There was time and I'm sure57000:28:50.759 --> 00:28:52.640



the same thing with you, Jim, Like there was you know,57100:28:53.039 --> 00:28:54.920



there was some tumultuous times. And I think when you57200:28:54.920 --> 00:28:58.440



have people that really care, they're really passionate, emotions run high,57300:28:58.440 --> 00:29:00.720



and then there's you know, calling a space this performance57400:29:00.759 --> 00:29:04.200



enhancing drugs involved in all these things, and that can57500:29:04.279 --> 00:29:07.240



just like elevate if someone has a big personality. It's57600:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.000



can even be a bigger personality when when performance enhancing57700:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.200



drugs are involved. So over time after that kind of57800:29:15.200 --> 00:29:17.599



twenty seventeen, I kind of like I started to think about,57900:29:17.599 --> 00:29:19.359



like what are the like the best elements of west58000:29:19.440 --> 00:29:21.680



Side that I could take back to Gaglon Strength and58100:29:21.680 --> 00:29:23.279



then try to like kind of kind of cut out58200:29:23.279 --> 00:29:25.680



like maybe some of the other stuff. Maybe can we58300:29:25.720 --> 00:29:28.599



have a competitive fun environment that's less cutthroat? Can we58400:29:28.640 --> 00:29:33.000



still be supportive and competitive? Can we you know, be58500:29:33.119 --> 00:29:35.440



hard on each other, but like not you know, but58600:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.680



in like a constructive way, you know. So those are58700:29:38.759 --> 00:29:40.279



in I'm still kind of working on this, and this58800:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.680



is something that I kind of make a point and58900:29:42.759 --> 00:29:45.279



every now and then that old flip will switch when59000:29:45.279 --> 00:29:46.880



I especially if I'm getting ready for me or whatever59100:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.200



I'm trying to I'm like Okay, like you need to59200:29:49.279 --> 00:29:51.279



chill out, like this is not that serious.59300:29:51.319 --> 00:29:52.680



This is like a hobby, you know what I mean.59400:29:52.759 --> 00:29:55.319



So I think over time, and that's where someone like59500:29:55.359 --> 00:29:58.720



Black Tom Cruise at least was great because you just59600:29:58.839 --> 00:30:01.119



never had a negative like thing to say about anyone.59700:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.079



Is just that was his personality. So he always kind59800:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.119



of brought a lot of warmth and he kind of59900:30:06.160 --> 00:30:08.200



would cut through and I don't think anyone ever had60000:30:08.200 --> 00:30:08.839



a problem with him.60100:30:08.839 --> 00:30:10.119



He was just one of those guys that was just60200:30:10.160 --> 00:30:10.920



always cheerful.60300:30:10.960 --> 00:30:13.599



And so I think having those people that are like60400:30:13.640 --> 00:30:16.960



whether the peacekeepers or the people that are always fun,60500:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.440



I think that really helped. And I know for me personally,60600:30:20.119 --> 00:30:21.599



that's something I had to kind of take a look60700:30:21.640 --> 00:30:24.559



at in the mirrors as I got older, and after60800:30:24.559 --> 00:30:26.440



that twenty seventeen, I was like, okay, like, let me60900:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.759



try to take the best elements of West Side and61000:30:28.799 --> 00:30:31.359



then try to make it a more family friendly environment61100:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.279



but still have all you know, the programming, the team culture,61200:30:34.279 --> 00:30:37.359



because I think that the idea of a crew is61300:30:37.720 --> 00:30:39.960



so important. But yeah, I think that it can you61400:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.680



can like anything else. I was a super heavyweight. You61500:30:42.759 --> 00:30:45.559



can like take any all this stuff too far, so61600:30:45.680 --> 00:30:47.559



trying to kind of find that middle ground where you kind.61700:30:47.440 --> 00:30:48.599



Of get the best of both worlds.61800:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.119



So that's something where it's easier said than done. But61900:30:52.119 --> 00:30:53.960



I think sometimes you have to like let the pendulum62000:30:54.000 --> 00:30:56.119



sling all the way to the end to kind of62100:30:56.119 --> 00:30:58.559



find that center point. And like, we definitely took things62200:30:58.599 --> 00:31:01.559



too far, and especially you know, when you start breaking62300:31:01.599 --> 00:31:03.400



records and stuff, you get a little bit of cocky,62400:31:03.440 --> 00:31:05.000



and sometimes so many people, you know, I have a62500:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.599



little bit of a god complex, if you will. I62600:31:07.599 --> 00:31:09.680



think it's just you start to feel like you're invincible62700:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.079



until you kind of get shot down a little bit,62800:31:12.160 --> 00:31:15.559



until you get humbled. So I don't know if that62900:31:15.640 --> 00:31:17.240



kind of resonates with you at all, but that's just63000:31:17.279 --> 00:31:18.680



kind of how I looked about these things. And that's63100:31:18.680 --> 00:31:21.240



why I've kind of definitely kind of calmed down a lot,63200:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.480



if you will. And my wife may disagree, but I've63300:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.680



definitely slowed down a bit. I've definitely gotten less aggressive63400:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.400



in training. That's why I kind of and even like63500:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.599



now like I'm like, you know, semi retired doing more63600:31:32.599 --> 00:31:34.519



strict cirl and stuff. But even like me at like63700:31:34.559 --> 00:31:38.200



eighty percent it's still a lot for like the average person,63800:31:38.279 --> 00:31:40.400



where when we were like running at one hundred percent,63900:31:40.519 --> 00:31:43.799



it's like, you know, and maybe we shouldn't be running64000:31:43.799 --> 00:31:44.920



at a hundred, you know what I mean, We need64100:31:44.960 --> 00:31:47.160



to like kind of chill out. Like Larry said, I64200:31:47.160 --> 00:31:49.960



think that the more you can restrain yourself, because most64300:31:50.000 --> 00:31:50.759



people can't.64400:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.160



Tap into their self like that.64500:31:52.920 --> 00:31:54.839



Most people can't like recruit, you know what I mean,64600:31:54.880 --> 00:31:56.720



Like when you're like doing like a nine hundred pounds64700:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.519



squad or a big bench, a big deadlift. Most people64800:32:00.559 --> 00:32:03.559



just don't have like that, you know, that switch they64900:32:03.599 --> 00:32:05.319



can flip, And I think it's good to be able65000:32:05.359 --> 00:32:06.960



to learn how to like turn that on in.65100:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.680



A competitive situation. But it's one of those things.65200:32:09.759 --> 00:32:11.640



Dave Taate used to call it like a zippy cards,65300:32:12.079 --> 00:32:13.839



and he would only have like one or two like65400:32:13.920 --> 00:32:15.839



every so often. So you kind of use those wisely65500:32:15.880 --> 00:32:17.720



because if you use them too much, you break down.65600:32:18.279 --> 00:32:20.440



It could be detrimental to your nervous system, your mood65700:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.799



and everything else. You have to kind of, you know,65800:32:22.920 --> 00:32:25.319



kind of restrain yourself until it's time. And that's like65900:32:25.359 --> 00:32:27.839



one thing I think Larry did a great job with66000:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.400



as his competition career kind of took off. He learned66100:32:31.400 --> 00:32:34.240



to trust the process, and then on meat day, like66200:32:34.279 --> 00:32:36.759



the leash was off and we were then we were66300:32:36.839 --> 00:32:38.160



then we were there to do the job. So that66400:32:38.400 --> 00:32:40.319



all the training up into that point and most of66500:32:40.359 --> 00:32:44.200



his training, you know, we would touch ninety percent sometimes66600:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.319



ninety five, but like the really heavy stuff was done66700:32:46.359 --> 00:32:48.279



with a reverse band, the really heavy stuff was done66800:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.079



with chains. If it was straight weight and all that stuff,66900:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.799



it really was usually not as crazy. But then on67000:32:53.880 --> 00:32:56.079



game day, on meat Day, then we hit the numbers67100:32:56.119 --> 00:32:58.960



that we needed to. And luckily, like I said, I67200:32:59.359 --> 00:33:01.119



was I have a pretty good batting I had of67300:33:01.119 --> 00:33:04.359



average with picking attempts, and we were more more fortunate67400:33:04.599 --> 00:33:07.759



in making more than we missed. But I think part67500:33:07.799 --> 00:33:09.480



of that is just having like I said, like almost67600:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.000



like you know, basically a decade relationship of knowing each67700:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.480



other and then you can really kind of make those67800:33:14.480 --> 00:33:16.720



decisions on the fly when the pressure was on.67900:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.519



Well, you were talking about, you know, people being able68000:33:20.559 --> 00:33:25.680



to sort of access that extra that extra gear, and68100:33:26.079 --> 00:33:30.680



a lot of people seem to rely on you know,68200:33:31.559 --> 00:33:36.119



ammonia or or a particular like hype song or whatever,68300:33:37.839 --> 00:33:40.720



particularly in meets, but sometimes a lot in training sessions too,68400:33:40.759 --> 00:33:42.720



and that I'm always kind of surprised by that as68500:33:43.200 --> 00:33:47.119



those are things that never like really you know, SYNCD68600:33:47.200 --> 00:33:49.599



up for me, like I either had it or I didn't.68700:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.400



They didn't necessarily help me one way or the other.68800:33:53.039 --> 00:33:54.759



What do you guys think about those other of things?68900:33:54.759 --> 00:33:58.559



And Larry was talking about how being hyped up by someone,69000:33:59.119 --> 00:34:04.319



but uh, hyped up by those external factors like you know,69100:34:04.920 --> 00:34:08.400



smelling salts and whatever music you wanted to listen to.69200:34:10.000 --> 00:34:14.119



You know, I'm great you brought that, want to answer, Yeah, absolutely,69300:34:14.159 --> 00:34:18.000



I'm glad you brought that up. That gets I get69400:34:18.000 --> 00:34:22.679



that question often and basically when I have a hype song,69500:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.800



or at least in the past when I did. You know,69600:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.039



every time you listen to it, it hits less and69700:34:27.119 --> 00:34:29.559



less hard, right, so you build a tolerance to it,69800:34:29.599 --> 00:34:31.239



and then you become dependent on it, and then if69900:34:31.239 --> 00:34:32.800



it doesn't work, it's like, damn, well, now I can't70000:34:32.800 --> 00:34:34.920



turn that switch on, right, or I would try and70100:34:34.920 --> 00:34:36.679



go to a dark place, or I would have someone70200:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.440



slap me to get me fired up. And that's fun70300:34:39.559 --> 00:34:41.880



for a time, right, but doesn't always work.70400:34:42.119 --> 00:34:42.280



Right.70500:34:42.400 --> 00:34:44.840



But what does always work. What you can depend on70600:34:45.039 --> 00:34:49.199



is yourself internal motivation. And I learned to when it's time,70700:34:49.239 --> 00:34:51.599



when it's game day, when it's time for a big70800:34:51.679 --> 00:34:57.159



lift ninety percent or above, just execute right, control my breathing,70900:34:57.360 --> 00:34:58.639



you know, have a little bit of caffe you don't71000:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.880



go too crazy, nothing too extreme, and just focus on71100:35:02.000 --> 00:35:04.559



executing the lift properly. Like what are my technique cues,71200:35:04.599 --> 00:35:06.960



because that's the most important thing. When I start like71300:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.280



blacking out and going to that dark place or the71400:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.199



hype song or the slapping, it could get you a71500:35:12.239 --> 00:35:14.960



little bit too aggressive and you get sloppy and your71600:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.119



form breaks down. Then you get injured, you miss a lip,71700:35:17.159 --> 00:35:19.880



you know, squat deeping up and so on. So I71800:35:20.000 --> 00:35:23.480



tell people just focus on proper execution. And I remember71900:35:23.559 --> 00:35:25.639



so many times John sitting in front of me, like listen,72000:35:25.639 --> 00:35:29.480



stop thinking, just execute and that's as simple as it is. Right.72100:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.800



Well, that brings up another question. You know a lot72200:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.719



of a lot of our lifters right now in the72300:35:37.760 --> 00:35:41.159



gym are working with a coach. Sometimes it's somebody who72400:35:41.239 --> 00:35:43.960



is also a member of the gym. Often they're working72500:35:44.000 --> 00:35:47.559



with a remote coach. Very like very small number of72600:35:47.599 --> 00:35:50.039



people are probably working more from a template and less72700:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.239



from whatever I mean. But we have like we have72800:35:53.519 --> 00:35:55.920



iPhone tripods all over the place because people are filming72900:35:55.960 --> 00:35:59.920



lifts for their for their coaches and for Instagram and73000:36:00.039 --> 00:36:03.480



stuff too. But but you know, not every not they're73100:36:03.519 --> 00:36:05.719



not posting every single lift that they record because those73200:36:05.760 --> 00:36:10.440



are all going to their coaches. What are your thoughts73300:36:10.440 --> 00:36:14.639



on both sides about like what what effective coaching looks like?73400:36:17.800 --> 00:36:18.639



Whoever wants to go.73500:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.360



First, Laurie, what do you think has been the biggest73600:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.480



factors in your success in terms of like our relationship73700:36:24.480 --> 00:36:26.960



and our dynamicsuse. I think I think you maybe kind73800:36:26.960 --> 00:36:30.000



of riff off, like you know, you know, trusting in73900:36:30.039 --> 00:36:34.440



the process and just maybe some things that maybe I74000:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.199



unload some I kind of take on some bandwidth that74100:36:37.239 --> 00:36:38.840



you can kind of just focus on being an athlete.74200:36:38.880 --> 00:36:40.360



Maybe if that is like a starting point.74300:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.199



Yeah, So what's so great about having a good coach?74400:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.760



It takes away all of the overthinking. Right when people74500:36:46.800 --> 00:36:49.280



try and coach themselves, you tend to second guess yourself74600:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.039



and start to change things around, and you start to74700:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.079



lose faith in the process. You start to doubt yourself.74800:36:54.199 --> 00:36:55.880



But when you just put your faith in a coach.74900:36:56.119 --> 00:36:58.320



You just show up and execute right. It takes all75000:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.800



the guests work. And then on top of having good75100:37:00.960 --> 00:37:04.400



consistent communication, the more you can communicate with your coach,75200:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.679



the better. I work with people briefly in the past75300:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.760



where it communicates you is newly non existent, and as75400:37:10.800 --> 00:37:14.199



a result, I feel the train, nutrition, the recovery, everything75500:37:14.199 --> 00:37:16.880



gets compromised because they didn't know what's going on. Maybe75600:37:16.880 --> 00:37:20.000



they're not reaching out, they're not as attentive. And I75700:37:20.039 --> 00:37:25.079



think communication is extremely important and what separates the good75800:37:25.119 --> 00:37:26.719



coaches from the ones that they're not so good.75900:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.760



And on game day specifically, like because I know, like76000:37:31.440 --> 00:37:33.320



I'm wearing like the world record shirt, you know, for76100:37:33.360 --> 00:37:35.719



a reason. So like every single time that you broke76200:37:35.760 --> 00:37:39.960



a world record, there was different federation, different circumstances, maybe76300:37:40.000 --> 00:37:43.480



different states even, but the common denominators that we were76400:37:43.480 --> 00:37:47.039



linked up, and I was like your game day coach, right,76500:37:47.840 --> 00:37:49.719



And I think that's something I think is really overlooked.76600:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.920



And powerlifting is the even in raw lifting, because in76700:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.039



equipped lifting, and we're all with wraps and stuff, like76800:37:55.039 --> 00:37:57.000



actually having someone to wrap your knees and put you76900:37:57.000 --> 00:37:59.159



in the suit and all these things, But what were77000:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.760



some things like on day specifically in terms of like77100:38:01.800 --> 00:38:06.960



the attempt selection, the warm ups, finding like electrolytes.77200:38:06.239 --> 00:38:09.280



For when you're crampy, and we have a funny story77300:38:09.280 --> 00:38:09.639



about that.77400:38:09.719 --> 00:38:11.400



But what are some things like on game day that77500:38:11.440 --> 00:38:13.599



you found like really helpful to like really allow you77600:38:13.639 --> 00:38:15.599



to be successful on the platform.77700:38:15.880 --> 00:38:17.760



I mean, you touched on a couple of really good ones,77800:38:17.800 --> 00:38:21.679



such as attempt selection, and that's something that is so stressful.77900:38:21.679 --> 00:38:23.639



And I couldn't imagine going to a meet and having78000:38:23.679 --> 00:38:26.760



to choose my own attempts because how could I possibly78100:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.559



pick the right number? Whereas I felt whenever John picked78200:38:29.599 --> 00:38:33.119



my attempts, it was just it felt just right. Opener, second, third,78300:38:33.239 --> 00:38:36.280



everything just as it should right. And then just when78400:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.639



you experienced that meet after meat, it start to eliminate78500:38:40.639 --> 00:38:42.840



a lot of the anxiety that's supposed to be there78600:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.159



and game day because you know, like, okay, well, I'm78700:38:45.159 --> 00:38:47.519



with a coach that always picks the right attempt right,78800:38:47.519 --> 00:38:49.400



So if I don't get it, it's on me, right,78900:38:49.400 --> 00:38:51.599



because he knows what he's doing, he knows my body,79000:38:52.039 --> 00:38:54.800



and if I've been following the program my nutrition New79100:38:54.840 --> 00:38:57.559



Crab's on point right, I should get this left right.79200:38:57.599 --> 00:38:59.559



So I usually like to put that on myself, and79300:38:59.800 --> 00:39:01.639



if if I don't get an attempt, I always putting79400:39:01.639 --> 00:39:04.199



on myself, never on the coach, never on John. That79500:39:04.320 --> 00:39:09.400



aside from little things, well significant things like if I79600:39:09.440 --> 00:39:11.679



did a weight cut, which I hated to do, I79700:39:11.679 --> 00:39:15.039



don't do anymore. And I remember one time, I don't79800:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.920



remember exactly which competition, I was cramping so bad I79900:39:17.920 --> 00:39:19.840



couldn't even open my hands, So I was like, how80000:39:19.840 --> 00:39:21.679



am I going to finish the meat? Literally I couldn't80100:39:21.679 --> 00:39:23.559



open my hands or just glue shut. Never had it80200:39:23.599 --> 00:39:25.880



happen in for in my life. But you know, with80300:39:25.960 --> 00:39:28.440



John support, I was able to get electrolytes and he80400:39:28.559 --> 00:39:30.079



was like, listen, drip like a gown to list. I80500:39:30.119 --> 00:39:31.840



remember exactly what we did, but it worked.80600:39:32.000 --> 00:39:32.159



Right.80700:39:32.199 --> 00:39:35.119



That's the most important thing, just having someone there that80800:39:35.960 --> 00:39:39.760



really is attentive, right, I have to keep emphasizing attentive80900:39:39.800 --> 00:39:42.760



like that, really paying attention and really cares about your81000:39:42.800 --> 00:39:47.880



performance is priceless. And I've watched other people try and81100:39:48.159 --> 00:39:51.840



coach their clients and it's not many. Unfortunately, many people81200:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.199



don't get the same TLC that I got when John81300:39:54.280 --> 00:39:57.920



was coaching me right, like just that you know, attention81400:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.719



to the little details and most important keeping me out81500:40:00.760 --> 00:40:03.800



of my head, right, because on game day it's like, Okay,81600:40:04.440 --> 00:40:07.199



maybe I skipped this lift on this day or eat81700:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.760



it up on that day, and I start overthinking everything81800:40:09.800 --> 00:40:11.800



and anxiety gets a little bit too overbearing on. It81900:40:11.800 --> 00:40:14.199



doesn't happen too often, but if it ever did, you know,82000:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.320



that's when John steps in, like, stop thinking, you know,82100:40:16.400 --> 00:40:18.199



here's the plan, this is what we're gonna do, right,82200:40:18.239 --> 00:40:19.480



And just that kind of keeps me out of my82300:40:19.559 --> 00:40:22.719



head because the second you start overthinking things on game day,82400:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.679



I feel like then you start thinking, well, maybe I'm82500:40:25.679 --> 00:40:28.039



not ready for this today, right, and then you start82600:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.480



going that rabbit hole like, well, because I don't believe82700:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.159



in myself anymore, how am I gonna get this lift?82800:40:32.239 --> 00:40:32.360



Right?82900:40:32.360 --> 00:40:34.679



So it's like having that coach like John there to83000:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.280



tell you, you know, listen, you're ready for this is83100:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.800



what we're gonna do, and just adjust the plan as83200:40:40.880 --> 00:40:44.920



the day goes on because things change, like maybe the83300:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.159



open didn't go as passed we thought it whatever, Like83400:40:47.239 --> 00:40:49.199



it's so easy to get in your head and overthink83500:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.000



things and That's where John Septing is like, listen, this83600:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.599



is our second attempt. You know, don't even have to83700:40:54.639 --> 00:40:56.400



go back and forth on him about I never argue83800:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.320



with John. I just stuck to the plan and more83900:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.239



often more times up the than not and worked out.84000:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.079



So there's two things I want to highlight with the84100:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.880



especially the I think game day nutrition is often like84200:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.639



really like and game day nutrition starts with like the84300:41:10.760 --> 00:41:13.599



night before. So I think a lot of people you know,84400:41:13.920 --> 00:41:15.679



stand kind of famous with this. Is like you know,84500:41:15.679 --> 00:41:18.400



you eat clean all like prep or whatever, and then84600:41:18.440 --> 00:41:20.280



you go to right to I hop was very like84700:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.480



I hop b Ha pizza, pasta, pancakes, and then like84800:41:23.519 --> 00:41:26.000



you're not your summa upset, You're not your weight's like84900:41:26.039 --> 00:41:28.079



all messed up. You're you're in the bathroom more than85000:41:29.159 --> 00:41:30.960



you know. Then then you know you're not able to85100:41:31.039 --> 00:41:33.559



keep the weight on. So being like more dialed in85200:41:33.599 --> 00:41:35.599



like the day before, and then have like the treats,85300:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.199



the treats and stuff like after after the meat is over.85400:41:38.920 --> 00:41:40.719



And I know what Larry specifically, and I kind of85500:41:40.760 --> 00:41:42.679



so I always have electrolytes on hand. I always have85600:41:42.719 --> 00:41:46.159



different like you know, things for and sometimes like you85700:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.320



might like, you know, you might just say like, hey,85800:41:48.360 --> 00:41:51.320



I'm not really sure if this is if you're a85900:41:51.320 --> 00:41:52.920



newer coach, like I'm not sure if this is gonna work.86000:41:52.960 --> 00:41:54.360



But just being confident and be like, hey, I think86100:41:54.400 --> 00:41:57.360



you need electrolytes and just like being confident in your delivery,86200:41:57.559 --> 00:41:59.639



you know, to your athlete, I think is important even86300:41:59.639 --> 00:42:01.039



if you're like I don't know how this is going86400:42:01.119 --> 00:42:02.840



to go, like, you know, just trying to like keep86500:42:02.840 --> 00:42:05.840



the athlete, because if you're if you're showing nervousness, if86600:42:05.840 --> 00:42:08.280



you're not confident, that's going to kind of go into86700:42:08.320 --> 00:42:10.239



like the athletes. So we kind of went talked about86800:42:10.440 --> 00:42:14.000



you know, Black Tom Cruise, if you're giving out positive,86900:42:14.000 --> 00:42:16.320



confident energy, that's going to kind of rub off like87000:42:16.559 --> 00:42:18.320



on the athlete. And I think that's really important that87100:42:18.360 --> 00:42:20.320



you're very confident in your attempt selection. You've kind of87200:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.079



had good communication leading up to the meet, so that87300:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.199



way is no I think I'm opening too heavy or87400:42:25.239 --> 00:42:27.559



I'm opening too light like that those things should not87500:42:27.719 --> 00:42:31.440



like be happening with Those conversations should be had prior87600:42:31.480 --> 00:42:32.880



to the meet, not not on game day.87700:42:32.880 --> 00:42:34.800



Those that should not be a discussion.87800:42:36.000 --> 00:42:39.159



So one one particular instance, so like, uh, when we87900:42:39.159 --> 00:42:41.119



started competing a little bit more with like the USPA88000:42:41.199 --> 00:42:42.880



and when the us opened was kind of a thing.88100:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.760



I was just talking actually with with with Greenow and88200:42:46.000 --> 00:42:48.440



I think we have mutual friend, you know JP Price.88300:42:49.199 --> 00:42:50.599



That like warm up room was crazy.88400:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.119



You know, you had like you know, Brandon Allen and88500:42:53.519 --> 00:42:57.079



JP Price and all the it was like a crazy88600:42:57.119 --> 00:42:59.119



meat And then we had of course, you know Urie88700:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.920



Belkin was whipping. He had he was like the John88800:43:01.960 --> 00:43:06.480



Hack of like the time. But you know, the squad88900:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.760



depth was like, the strike zone was tough that day.89000:43:09.960 --> 00:43:12.719



The bench pauses was tough that day. So we had89100:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.280



to like lower expectations and that was not I didn't89200:43:15.480 --> 00:43:18.280



tell Larry about like, hey, like the judges are really89300:43:18.320 --> 00:43:20.719



like that was not like a comrace. That was my89400:43:21.480 --> 00:43:24.639



problem to fix. So we like lowered our third attempts89500:43:24.719 --> 00:43:28.639



considerably and then uh, this is a really it was89600:43:28.639 --> 00:43:30.480



a really cool moment for me as a coach because89700:43:30.519 --> 00:43:32.760



we had a very unique opportunity because Larry got to89800:43:32.800 --> 00:43:35.280



go head to head against Dennis Cornelius is one of89900:43:35.280 --> 00:43:42.159



the greatest heavyweights in IPF history, and so we knew90000:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.079



we needed to pull a big deadlift to win. Larry90100:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.000



was the lighter lifter because of course he had. He90200:43:48.000 --> 00:43:49.440



had to make my job a little bit harder because90300:43:49.440 --> 00:43:51.719



he was trying to break our world record in knee90400:43:51.800 --> 00:43:53.639



leaves and everyone else was in knee raps. But he's like,90500:43:53.679 --> 00:43:56.039



I want to break Eric Lowbridge's record in nie leaves,90600:43:56.119 --> 00:43:58.559



and also like do the smeat. I'm like, sure, no problem,90700:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.360



it'll be fine, just bringing a knife to a gunfight.90800:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.800



But you know it's Larry Wheels, so it's we'll figure90900:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.159



it out. So anyway, so Larry basically had like one91000:44:06.239 --> 00:44:08.480



hundred pounds handicap on his total. So that's like that91100:44:08.559 --> 00:44:10.239



was like that was the start of the meet. And91200:44:10.280 --> 00:44:13.159



now like everyone's bombing out on squats. The pauses on91300:44:13.239 --> 00:44:16.199



benches are crazy. So we get into deadlifts and we're91400:44:16.199 --> 00:44:18.559



doing a little bit of jockey and for attempt selection91500:44:18.639 --> 00:44:22.239



and I'm like, okay, like you know, Larry, did you91600:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.280



know had had some good polls in training. It's a91700:44:25.280 --> 00:44:28.480



tough meat. The judging is tough. We kind of see91800:44:29.039 --> 00:44:31.039



Dennis is not a great deadlifter, so I think he91900:44:31.159 --> 00:44:34.519



ended up. He ended up, you know, we see what92000:44:34.559 --> 00:44:36.039



he does in a third attempt, I don't remember if92100:44:36.039 --> 00:44:39.159



he got it not okay, like if Larry pulls four92200:44:39.199 --> 00:44:43.000



in Rakuilos, they'll tie. And then Larry went on body weight,92300:44:43.079 --> 00:44:46.360



so we put the attempt in and Larry just crushes92400:44:46.360 --> 00:44:49.079



it and it's it's like an iconic video like he's92500:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.519



in you know, the the MHP single it and like92600:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.719



he's going crazy and he's like big celebration. So he92700:44:54.760 --> 00:44:56.440



beats Dennis Corney early his head to head and it92800:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.840



puts him third place overall. So it was the podium92900:45:00.119 --> 00:45:05.760



was uh was Brandon Allen ended up taking second, and93000:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.079



then Eurie belcan you know, we knew it was basically93100:45:08.119 --> 00:45:10.280



in his It was his like, you know, meat to lose.93200:45:10.320 --> 00:45:12.840



So Brandon Allen had a great day and then you know,93300:45:12.920 --> 00:45:14.920



Larry kind of rounded out the podium and it was93400:45:14.920 --> 00:45:17.679



a very that was a very tough field, so to93500:45:17.800 --> 00:45:19.679



podium and like not even be wearing knee wraps at93600:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.719



a rap meat was pretty crazy. And the fact that93700:45:22.719 --> 00:45:24.679



he had like a very unique opportunity to go head93800:45:24.679 --> 00:45:26.840



to head with one of the best IPF lifters in history.93900:45:26.840 --> 00:45:29.719



I believe he still has the IPF world record in94000:45:29.800 --> 00:45:32.800



the one twenty weight class. So anyways, that was a94100:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.679



really cool memory and I was like, and again not94200:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.079



to my own horn, but like stuff like that would94300:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.440



not happen without a good game day coach, Like those things,94400:45:39.480 --> 00:45:40.920



you know, like if you just say like, hey, I'm94500:45:41.159 --> 00:45:43.440



because Larry was capable of like an eight to fifty squad,94600:45:43.840 --> 00:45:45.639



but we ended up with like eight twenty six or94700:45:45.679 --> 00:45:46.920



something whatever the kilo number is.94800:45:46.960 --> 00:45:48.679



It's like we had to like really drop it down94900:45:48.800 --> 00:45:49.280



quite a bit.95000:45:49.320 --> 00:45:50.639



Same thing. I thought he was capable of like a95100:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.880



six thirty five bench. I think he did like six95200:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.480



oh six or six', eleven you, know so you have95300:45:55.559 --> 00:45:57.360



to kind of lower. Expectations you got to adjust to95400:45:57.400 --> 00:45:59.519



the strike. Zone AND i think that's something where it95500:45:59.559 --> 00:46:01.679



doesn't matter were like what you did in, Training like it's, like,95600:46:01.719 --> 00:46:03.719



okay what are the conditions of the, Day and that's95700:46:03.719 --> 00:46:05.840



where like the sports side really comes. In so those95800:46:05.840 --> 00:46:08.159



are always the most fun for. Me it gets me95900:46:08.199 --> 00:46:10.280



fired up just thinking about, It like those, were you,96000:46:10.360 --> 00:46:11.039



know some of the good old.96100:46:11.119 --> 00:46:11.480



Days for.96200:46:11.519 --> 00:46:15.840



Sure as a, LIFTER i sometimes enjoyed just having somebody96300:46:15.880 --> 00:46:18.679



else put in my numbers and just not even tell96400:46:18.679 --> 00:46:22.480



me what they were in a meat LIKE i was in,96500:46:22.519 --> 00:46:24.519



there sort of block it out when it's when it96600:46:24.599 --> 00:46:27.480



was announced or whatever that. Was that was sometimes helpful96700:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.800



because THEN i you, know you get the numbers in96800:46:30.800 --> 00:46:32.440



your head and you get like like you think you96900:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.679



have hard stops and you don't LIKE i would never97000:46:35.719 --> 00:46:38.039



have squatted six fifty if somebody had told ME i97100:46:38.039 --> 00:46:40.000



was gonna squat six fifty in this, meet because it was,97200:46:40.079 --> 00:46:43.760



like you, know sixty pounds more Than i'd ever squatted anywhere,97300:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.679



Ever so you know that that makes the. Difference another97400:46:47.679 --> 00:46:50.480



thing THAT i think really helps is if with a97500:46:50.519 --> 00:46:57.519



coach on game day is timing warm. Ups there's there's97600:46:57.519 --> 00:46:59.599



a lot of attention that needs to go into. That you,97700:47:00.159 --> 00:47:03.159



know you know when when the next flight is coming,97800:47:03.239 --> 00:47:06.840



up and what equipment is available to, you you, know97900:47:06.920 --> 00:47:08.960



to warm up in a warm up, rooms because not98000:47:09.079 --> 00:47:11.280



every warm up room is created the same by any98100:47:11.280 --> 00:47:14.880



stretch of the. Imagination you, know sometimes you're and sometimes98200:47:14.920 --> 00:47:16.920



you're warming up with pound, plates but you're gonna live with.98300:47:17.000 --> 00:47:21.679



Kilos that's often the. Case we actually have enough kilo98400:47:21.719 --> 00:47:23.519



sets in the gym that we're able to let people98500:47:23.559 --> 00:47:26.880



warm up with. Kilos if that's what they. Desire but but,98600:47:26.960 --> 00:47:30.119



yeah and just so much of that that can really98700:47:30.159 --> 00:47:34.639



get in your head and makes you anxious is taken98800:47:34.639 --> 00:47:37.559



away if somebody else is managing it for, you makes98900:47:37.559 --> 00:47:42.320



a big. Difference SO i know that We john AND99000:47:42.360 --> 00:47:46.119



i talked it last time about strict, curl AND i99100:47:46.159 --> 00:47:48.719



know you guys have a meat coming up in Southern99200:47:48.719 --> 00:47:55.079



california in In january that you want to continue to99300:47:55.119 --> 00:47:58.400



inform people, About so just lay that out for.99400:47:58.440 --> 00:48:02.800



Everybody, yeah so, zeh but's it's kind of crazy even99500:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.360



just since we last, spoke which hasn't which hasn't been you,99600:48:05.400 --> 00:48:08.719



know too long at this, point but this is going99700:48:08.760 --> 00:48:15.440



to be one of the most highly anticipated heavyweight. Matchups99800:48:15.559 --> 00:48:17.440



we have a couple of really heavy hitters coming And99900:48:17.440 --> 00:48:19.480



i'm hoping that one of My New york, guys he's100000:48:19.559 --> 00:48:21.920



kind of like not one hundred percent of, confirmed but100100:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.840



if he does. Go so we Have my guy Is John,100200:48:24.920 --> 00:48:29.719



Archibald Panamanian. Hulk so he's got THE rps world record right,100300:48:29.760 --> 00:48:32.840



now so he's like the reigning king with two hundred100400:48:32.880 --> 00:48:34.239



and ten, pounds so about ninety five.100500:48:34.320 --> 00:48:36.960



Kilos and then we have a Big.100600:48:37.039 --> 00:48:41.519



Joe it's a BOWL i want to say that he's100700:48:41.519 --> 00:48:43.360



so he's recently lost a lot of. Weight he's still100800:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.199



a super heavyweight or a three oh eight, lifter but100900:48:45.280 --> 00:48:47.320



he he was like a four hundred pound dude at one,101000:48:47.320 --> 00:48:49.480



point and he was up there around like the two,101100:48:49.559 --> 00:48:51.199



yeah really big. Guy now he's in like the low three.101200:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.559



HUNDREDS i think he's still like super, heavyweight but like101300:48:53.599 --> 00:48:55.800



maybe like three. Fifteen so he's lost a lot of.101400:48:55.800 --> 00:48:58.320



Weight so sometimes in strict, curl that's that's when you101500:48:58.320 --> 00:49:00.679



have the smaller belly kind of keep it closer to101600:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.760



your body and that can like. Help so he's he's101700:49:03.800 --> 00:49:05.840



kind of in that two fifteen range right, now but101800:49:05.880 --> 00:49:07.719



he's done like a two twenty, Plus like he's one101900:49:07.760 --> 00:49:11.280



hundred kilo curl, guy which is again very rare. Air that's,102000:49:11.360 --> 00:49:14.320



like you, know probably less than ten, people i'd say102100:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.559



In america has ever done. That and then you Have102200:49:16.599 --> 00:49:18.880



Antonio collins AND i know he's actually a, big a102300:49:18.880 --> 00:49:22.400



big fan Of. Larry we've talked. About you, know he's102400:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.000



really excited to meet. You he's he's also a two102500:49:25.039 --> 00:49:27.679



hundred and twenty pound curler as. Well and then we102600:49:27.719 --> 00:49:32.840



Have Brendan Todd Brendan todd's ACTUALLY i consider him like102700:49:32.880 --> 00:49:37.119



a like a hybrid strength athlete because he does like,102800:49:37.639 --> 00:49:41.679



powerlifting he does strong, man he does STREET i don't102900:49:41.679 --> 00:49:43.239



know if you're familiar With jim with street, lifting which103000:49:43.280 --> 00:49:47.400



is like WEIGHTED calisenicx dips and pull. Ups he's like103100:49:47.400 --> 00:49:49.000



a two hundred and seventy five. Pounds he's a nice.103200:49:49.039 --> 00:49:50.599



Kid he kind of lives close to, me so he.103300:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.119



Did he did a second strip from me with. Us103400:49:53.159 --> 00:49:56.159



he has got the one hundred percent raw world record103500:49:56.639 --> 00:49:58.880



with two hundred and twenty six. POUNDS i think it's103600:49:58.880 --> 00:49:59.760



one hundred and two and a HALF.103700:49:59.840 --> 00:50:01.320



Q so.103800:50:02.800 --> 00:50:05.239



It's gonna be like the most stacked heavyweight lineup we've103900:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.039



ever seen in a strict girl. Beat so it's gonna104000:50:08.039 --> 00:50:10.039



be like fun to watch because all those guys are104100:50:10.039 --> 00:50:11.960



gonna be going head to head and like one miss104200:50:12.039 --> 00:50:14.360



like someone else can kind of jump the. Other so right,104300:50:14.400 --> 00:50:17.239



Now John archibold is like THE rps you, know record,104400:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.920



holder but we have three other heavy. Hitters so we104500:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.039



got four guys that are doing ninety five kilos of,104600:50:22.079 --> 00:50:24.079



more WHICH i don't think it has ever been to my,104700:50:24.199 --> 00:50:28.360



knowledge and certainly NOT i think on The West, coast104800:50:28.360 --> 00:50:30.000



there might have been some meets like in The arnold and,104900:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.880



stuff but and then we have some good lightweight, Battles105000:50:32.880 --> 00:50:35.239



like we have two, Guys Gary teeter And Ed joseph105100:50:35.320 --> 00:50:37.920



that are in the one thirty two weight, class and105200:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.320



they've both gone over one hundred and thirty, two SO105300:50:40.360 --> 00:50:43.400



i think two pounds separate their pr so that's very.105400:50:43.400 --> 00:50:45.519



Exciting two pounds is not a, lot so that's gonna be.105500:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.360



Exciting and then we're just trying to get some more ladies,105600:50:47.400 --> 00:50:50.960



involved so really exciting. Stuff and then the other thing105700:50:51.000 --> 00:50:52.599



that we're gonna, Do i'm not sure what we're gonna call.105800:50:52.679 --> 00:50:57.679



It i'm calling it training wheels, camp but we want105900:50:57.679 --> 00:51:00.639



to do some open tryouts for you, Know larry's at One.106000:51:00.719 --> 00:51:04.440



Gen Like jim, said it's not, anything so after this triccroll,106100:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.639



me we're just gonna have like an open, lift you,106200:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.480



Know And i'm really excited for that as, well because106300:51:12.760 --> 00:51:14.920



some of the best training, partners like, again you, Know,106400:51:15.000 --> 00:51:18.440



jim you were you, were you, know training with. THOUSAND106500:51:18.679 --> 00:51:21.239



i THINK i think Maybe cartwright was like eleven, hundred106600:51:21.280 --> 00:51:23.360



like you guys had some like one thousand pounds plus,106700:51:23.440 --> 00:51:29.320



lifters you, know six, seven eight hundred pound, benchures just106800:51:29.360 --> 00:51:32.239



because the ways can come. Off it's not just about106900:51:32.280 --> 00:51:33.840



the amount of weight you can. Lift and also when107000:51:33.840 --> 00:51:35.719



it comes to spotting and loading and stuff like, that107100:51:36.159 --> 00:51:38.440



as long as you have good communication and you're, coordinated107200:51:39.320 --> 00:51:41.840



you can like you guys can like you can spot107300:51:41.880 --> 00:51:42.559



a thousand pounds.107400:51:42.559 --> 00:51:45.400



Squad it is, scary but if.107500:51:45.280 --> 00:51:47.159



You guys are, coordinating and that's the whole, thing like,107600:51:47.199 --> 00:51:49.320



together we can achieve more if you guys learn to work.107700:51:49.360 --> 00:51:51.960



Together AND i know that you, know AND i don't.107800:51:51.960 --> 00:51:54.559



Know we'll Let larry speak a little bit as well107900:51:54.559 --> 00:51:56.639



with whatever he if he wants to tease you guys108000:51:56.679 --> 00:51:59.079



a little bit, more or if he wants to unveil some108100:51:59.079 --> 00:52:02.719



some big news the fifty Percent facts. Podcast BUT i108200:52:02.760 --> 00:52:04.880



know he recently put a post out that.108300:52:04.840 --> 00:52:07.199



He's getting the. Itch he's getting the itch.108400:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.320



Again SO i don't know if you want to say108500:52:09.320 --> 00:52:11.480



anything to, That, larry or just leave The let's just108600:52:11.559 --> 00:52:13.760



leave the audience in. Suspense but anything else that you108700:52:13.840 --> 00:52:15.960



want to say about the team, tryouts what kind of108800:52:16.000 --> 00:52:17.639



people you're looking, For what are you looking for in108900:52:17.840 --> 00:52:18.440



a good training?109000:52:18.480 --> 00:52:22.159



Partner, Right so we touched on this a little bit109100:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.079



earlier in the, pod But i'll get a little deeper into.109200:52:25.119 --> 00:52:27.440



It so really What i'm looking for is people that109300:52:27.639 --> 00:52:30.199



just want to be the best version, themselves don't take109400:52:30.239 --> 00:52:32.679



training too, seriously know how to have a good, lab109500:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.920



make it fun, right because for, me training is, pleasure.109600:52:36.000 --> 00:52:37.400



RIGHT i don't want this to feel like a, chore109700:52:37.440 --> 00:52:40.360



like this is. WORK i genuinely look forward to going to,109800:52:40.440 --> 00:52:44.719



train And i'm not just fixated on the result, anymore109900:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.159



on hitting prs or breaking weld the records or game.110000:52:47.239 --> 00:52:50.079



Day i'm really looking forward to, just you, know having110100:52:50.199 --> 00:52:53.679



people that are, reliable that are going to show up110200:52:53.760 --> 00:52:56.159



WHEN i expect them. To Because i'm a very punctual110300:52:56.239 --> 00:52:57.639



person and IF i Assu i'm going to be there110400:52:57.679 --> 00:52:59.159



AT x O'clock i'm going to be there ex o'clock110500:52:59.199 --> 00:53:02.239



at that, time, Right so just respect my, time you,110600:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.639



know respect the, gym and you have fun with. It,110700:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.960



now as we mentioned, earlier it's not important to me110800:53:09.119 --> 00:53:11.199



how much you, lived you, know as long as you110900:53:11.239 --> 00:53:15.719



are interested in pushing yourself and you want to. Compete111000:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.199



BECAUSE i think it's also important that you enjoy getting111100:53:18.239 --> 00:53:21.360



on stage and enjoy the, process because Ideally i'd like111200:53:21.440 --> 00:53:25.000



to compete with my training. PARTNERS i competed many times111300:53:25.000 --> 00:53:28.400



With Black Tom. Cruise and what made it so, magical111400:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.000



besides everything ELSE i mentioned with all of his good,111500:53:31.039 --> 00:53:33.800



qualities was that we were training together for the same.111600:53:33.920 --> 00:53:37.199



Goal we were preparing for the same, competition not to111700:53:37.239 --> 00:53:39.679



beat each. Other, Right it was never about. That it111800:53:39.800 --> 00:53:42.679



was just about, Like, okay our goals, aligned, right let's111900:53:42.679 --> 00:53:48.960



work together in this. Goal AND i can't do a112000:53:49.000 --> 00:53:52.920



heavy squad or bench anymore like by myself ninety percent,112100:53:52.920 --> 00:53:55.000



plus which is not going to. HAPPEN i need at112200:53:55.079 --> 00:54:00.920



least three people, right middle and two side spotters.112300:54:00.280 --> 00:54:01.840



Five five as a. Crew five is a.112400:54:01.880 --> 00:54:06.920



Crew, Fine, okay, okay we can get. Five i'll Be112500:54:07.320 --> 00:54:11.880



i'll be. Jumping i'd be. Great, sorry go, Ahead.112600:54:11.960 --> 00:54:14.800



JIM i just you, know we were talking about about112700:54:14.840 --> 00:54:19.079



spotting training partners and spotting people in, meats but particularly training.112800:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.880



Partners LIKE i was never close to being the, strongest but,112900:54:22.920 --> 00:54:26.360



BOY i really took the spotting part of it very113000:54:26.400 --> 00:54:30.360



seriously because, like you're not you're not lifting the, weight113100:54:30.400 --> 00:54:33.000



but you're protecting the, lifter and that's that's a big.113200:54:33.079 --> 00:54:35.440



Responsibility that's something that you that you need to keep113300:54:35.480 --> 00:54:37.360



in your head and you need to try to be113400:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.519



as good at a spotter as you are a, lifter113500:54:41.280 --> 00:54:45.199



and that is hard for some. Folks BUT i always113600:54:45.199 --> 00:54:48.280



felt LIKE i. COULD i could side spot a heavy113700:54:48.320 --> 00:54:50.639



bench even IF i, couldn't you, know even IF i113800:54:51.119 --> 00:54:52.679



even it was just like two of us on one113900:54:52.719 --> 00:54:55.159



side or just one or, WHATEVER i could do it114000:54:55.519 --> 00:54:59.119



BECAUSE i didn't want anything to go badly for for114100:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.280



whoever was. Lifting HOWEVER i was feeling about them at the. Moment.114200:55:04.280 --> 00:55:06.639



Uh and AND i think that THAT'S i think that114300:55:06.800 --> 00:55:08.400



just has to be has to be part of. It114400:55:08.480 --> 00:55:12.719



you have to to understand that that when you're when you're,114500:55:12.760 --> 00:55:16.360



spotting it's not about. You you're committed to the safety114600:55:16.440 --> 00:55:18.360



of of of your teammate who's.114700:55:18.360 --> 00:55:21.840



Lifting, yeah there's two quick THINGS i wanted to.114800:55:21.840 --> 00:55:24.440



Say SO i, know like WITH uh With larry's uh114900:55:24.480 --> 00:55:26.840



when he brooks hands record the twenty two seventy Five115000:55:28.480 --> 00:55:31.000



otis and you Know Black Tom. Cruise you know that115100:55:31.079 --> 00:55:32.920



they trained, this they did the same meet, together AND115200:55:32.960 --> 00:55:35.719



i think that like kind of added to just the115300:55:35.880 --> 00:55:38.239



environment that they were. In AND i Think otis was115400:55:38.360 --> 00:55:42.079



very close To i'm going off memory here so someone115500:55:42.079 --> 00:55:44.039



could fact check. ME i think That otis might have115600:55:44.039 --> 00:55:46.320



pulled like seven seventy or something like in the hot115700:55:46.360 --> 00:55:48.639



like mid to high. Sevens so and then you know115800:55:48.679 --> 00:55:50.159



he was up, there and then, uh he had a115900:55:50.159 --> 00:55:53.960



really good. Day and THEN i Remember larry broke the116000:55:54.000 --> 00:55:56.880



total record on a second. Attempt and then, uh one116100:55:56.920 --> 00:55:58.840



of my, buddies Christ ella. Fave he's a really really116200:55:58.840 --> 00:56:01.440



good multiplied. Deadlift he's got some records and equiped. Lifting116300:56:01.480 --> 00:56:06.000



AND i Remember larry outlifted him in the deadlift, raw you,116400:56:06.039 --> 00:56:07.960



know which was which was. Cool so we kind OF116500:56:07.960 --> 00:56:09.840



i kind of gave him the business a little bit116600:56:09.880 --> 00:56:12.719



that our raw guy had the biggest pull of the116700:56:12.760 --> 00:56:14.679



day Because Chris, Chris chris has done like a nine116800:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.840



hundred pound deadlift in, competition like he's very, accomplished and you,116900:56:17.840 --> 00:56:19.440



know we have good, banter but that was it was117000:56:19.440 --> 00:56:21.239



a really cool. Day so he had people Like christella,117100:56:21.320 --> 00:56:23.559



five really big. GEARLIFTER i want to say he totaled117200:56:23.599 --> 00:56:26.519



like twenty six. Hundred larry told a twenty two seventy.117300:56:26.559 --> 00:56:28.800



Five it was some really good lifting that. Day it117400:56:28.840 --> 00:56:32.880



was actually done At Hastra. University you, know if people117500:56:32.880 --> 00:56:35.800



were familiar with with with a long, island and then117600:56:35.920 --> 00:56:37.440



you know the other THING i wanted to kind of,117700:56:37.440 --> 00:56:41.280



say like to your point about the. Safety so there117800:56:41.320 --> 00:56:43.239



was like a video that went, viral WHICH i KNOW117900:56:44.440 --> 00:56:46.079



i kind of joked tongue in, cheek but you, Know118000:56:46.239 --> 00:56:48.480



larry's cameraman was really happy that they caught this on.118100:56:48.599 --> 00:56:50.920



Camera BUT i was benching in a shirt AND i118200:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.199



was doing a new venture at the, time and it118300:56:53.239 --> 00:56:55.400



was like five to. Fifty it wasn't, crazy but you,118400:56:55.400 --> 00:56:56.960



know it's still five to, fifty and you, KNOW i118500:56:57.039 --> 00:56:58.320



kind of get out a lot of you, know it118600:56:58.480 --> 00:57:01.159



fell back towards my, face and then we had Like118700:57:01.239 --> 00:57:05.000



Jesse james West on like the side who he was not,118800:57:05.199 --> 00:57:06.880



competent it's.118900:57:06.760 --> 00:57:09.840



Spotting didn't know what was going. On he's just like119000:57:10.119 --> 00:57:10.519



deer in a.119100:57:10.599 --> 00:57:13.800



Headlights larry grabs it with like one hand and, like you,119200:57:13.840 --> 00:57:15.760



know saves my. Life but it was like very close119300:57:15.800 --> 00:57:18.000



to my face and, throat and it's one of those119400:57:18.000 --> 00:57:19.760



things where like if you don't if you're not like119500:57:19.800 --> 00:57:21.599



a attentive and kind of go over those.119600:57:21.639 --> 00:57:23.880



Things so it's pretty scary.119700:57:23.920 --> 00:57:25.760



Stuff so, yeah it's really important that you have like119800:57:25.800 --> 00:57:28.480



the lifter's best interests in, mind and you, know take119900:57:28.480 --> 00:57:32.280



your headphones, out pay attention to the, bar don't fixate120000:57:32.360 --> 00:57:34.960



on what the weight. Is just be in position before it.120100:57:35.000 --> 00:57:38.400



Happens and LIKE i, said that's really crucial in terms120200:57:38.400 --> 00:57:41.880



of like a good training partner is going to offer120300:57:41.960 --> 00:57:45.559



support and safety first and, foremost and then everything else is.120400:57:45.599 --> 00:57:48.519



GRAVY i think that's kind of you're, consistent you're putting120500:57:48.559 --> 00:57:51.559



in good energy to the, session and that's kind of120600:57:51.599 --> 00:57:53.360



what we're looking to, foster and ESPECIALLY i, know you,120700:57:53.360 --> 00:57:56.079



know As larry builds up the power lifting culture In One,120800:57:56.119 --> 00:57:58.920



gen that's something we try to foster At Gaglion. Strengths you,120900:57:58.960 --> 00:58:01.679



KNOW i, said it's gonna be your fifth year anniversary121000:58:01.719 --> 00:58:03.039



as a, company AND i think one of the reasons121100:58:03.039 --> 00:58:05.280



that we're still standing as a brick and mortar business121200:58:05.559 --> 00:58:07.800



and you, know these hard times is because we have121300:58:07.840 --> 00:58:10.000



a good community and we always kind of foster that team.121400:58:10.079 --> 00:58:12.519



Environment that's what we want to have at One gen121500:58:12.599 --> 00:58:13.400



on The West coast as.121600:58:13.440 --> 00:58:17.239



Well oh that's. Great, YEAH i think that the one121700:58:17.239 --> 00:58:20.840



of the worst spotting Fails i've ever seen was the121800:58:20.840 --> 00:58:27.360



one that's actually In Power unlimited, yeah, everybody everybody from121900:58:27.400 --> 00:58:29.480



a certain period of time knows that. One, Yeah and122000:58:29.480 --> 00:58:33.320



and the issue was that he had a buddy handing122100:58:33.360 --> 00:58:36.639



off who was a, bodybuilder not a. Powerlifter H and122200:58:36.760 --> 00:58:39.599



so when he handed the weight off and the center122300:58:39.639 --> 00:58:43.280



guy steps, away because that you, know the most federations122400:58:43.360 --> 00:58:46.800



require the the the center lift off guy to get122500:58:46.800 --> 00:58:49.480



out of the out of the, way he also backed,122600:58:49.519 --> 00:58:51.519



off and so when the weight started heading, down there122700:58:51.559 --> 00:58:55.199



was nobody to catch it but his. Face so it was,122800:58:55.599 --> 00:59:02.880



yeah pretty. Mortifying. Uh, ANYWAY i SINCE i know that122900:59:02.920 --> 00:59:08.119



it's getting late In, russia AND i appreciate your time for.123000:59:08.199 --> 00:59:11.320



Sure where can people find, You, larry and where can123100:59:11.360 --> 00:59:14.760



they find information about signing it for this? Meet?123200:59:16.280 --> 00:59:18.280



Sure and thank you for having. Me and you can123300:59:18.320 --> 00:59:21.320



find me on all socials on the same Handle Larry123400:59:21.360 --> 00:59:25.199



wheels and it's all over my page Over John gaglion's123500:59:25.199 --> 00:59:27.360



page if you want information for the strict curl coming123600:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.559



up in a few. WEEKS i hope to see you. There,123700:59:31.039 --> 00:59:34.920



ACTUALLY i Know i'm going to get motivated to compete123800:59:34.920 --> 00:59:41.000



myself When i'm in that. Environments breaking.123900:59:41.039 --> 00:59:43.119



News you heard it here.124000:59:46.320 --> 00:59:48.119



EXACTLY i, mean how can you not you are your.124100:59:48.199 --> 00:59:50.320



Environment you guys are gonna get me fired. Up BUT124200:59:50.519 --> 00:59:53.039



i hope to see you. There and, Again, jim thanks124300:59:53.039 --> 00:59:53.360



for having.124400:59:53.400 --> 00:59:55.039



Me, yeah thanks for being On.124500:59:55.360 --> 00:59:58.079



John so you can follow me at At Leon's strength124600:59:58.079 --> 01:00:00.880



on all the socials and you definitely follow our yes. Powerlifting,124701:00:01.239 --> 01:00:03.480



yeah feel free to shoot us a message guys if124801:00:03.480 --> 01:00:06.039



you guys want. TO i don't know how many spots will,124901:00:06.079 --> 01:00:08.920



have but if you are seriously, interested you, know serious125001:00:08.960 --> 01:00:12.039



in crees only, again doesn't matter what your total. Is you,125101:00:12.039 --> 01:00:14.159



know you guys could shoot me A dm At Gagleon's125201:00:14.159 --> 01:00:16.119



strength and we'll start to kind of put the fielders. Out,125301:00:16.719 --> 01:00:19.199



also make sure you're following One Gen. Jim and also you,125401:00:19.239 --> 01:00:22.360



KNOW i believe head trainer If Larry i'm speaking out of,125501:00:22.360 --> 01:00:24.400



Turn Damian bentley is going to be helping with this125601:00:24.480 --> 01:00:27.679



process as. Well he's a good, friend competitive body. Builder125701:00:27.960 --> 01:00:29.559



i'm not sure if you just get his pro card or,125801:00:29.559 --> 01:00:32.519



not but he's very high level as, well great culture125901:00:32.559 --> 01:00:34.119



At One. Gen so again we're just trying to kind126001:00:34.119 --> 01:00:37.159



of foster that to. Them and AGAIN i really can't126101:00:37.199 --> 01:00:40.440



Thank jim enough and fifty Percent facts for just having126201:00:40.440 --> 01:00:43.000



this platform because again at the end of the. DAY126301:00:43.440 --> 01:00:46.239



a lot of the stuff That jim has curated over126401:00:46.239 --> 01:00:48.320



the years kind of really helped us kind of get126501:00:48.320 --> 01:00:51.480



our message out. There and we, appreciate LIKE i, said you,126601:00:51.519 --> 01:00:55.079



know over you, know years and years, later we're still126701:00:55.280 --> 01:00:57.840



kind of doing our thing and involved in this crazy126801:00:57.880 --> 01:00:59.639



strength community we.126901:01:00.119 --> 01:01:03.679



COME i appreciate the kind words. There, YEAH i have127001:01:03.760 --> 01:01:06.639



to have to say, that like in in the era127101:01:06.760 --> 01:01:11.159



of social, handles it took me a while to actually,127201:01:11.280 --> 01:01:13.360



that for to dawn on me that you that you127301:01:13.480 --> 01:01:18.320



had a real last, Name. Larry part of me was127401:01:18.320 --> 01:01:21.079



just like. Wheels AND i will freely admit that that127501:01:21.119 --> 01:01:23.000



back in the day when we Had juji Mufu, ON127601:01:23.440 --> 01:01:24.840



i just thought that was his. NAME i thought it127701:01:24.880 --> 01:01:27.280



was just like, share you, know just like one word that's.127801:01:27.320 --> 01:01:30.519



It so EVENTUALLY i learned that he had a real.127901:01:30.599 --> 01:01:35.360



Name so, anyway, uh people who are interested in in128001:01:35.679 --> 01:01:39.159



uh in you, know having the potential chance to train128101:01:39.199 --> 01:01:42.519



With larry and and they're serious about, IT i think128201:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.480



that you, should uh should jump in there and and128301:01:45.480 --> 01:01:49.480



and find out and and my uh my caveat that128401:01:49.480 --> 01:01:51.519



that you guys aren't saying is like just like check128501:01:51.559 --> 01:01:54.400



your ego at the. Door about it and and be128601:01:54.519 --> 01:01:58.000



willing to to to. Give if you, give you'll. Get128701:01:59.239 --> 01:02:01.760



that's that's that's really the you, know the bottom line128801:02:01.760 --> 01:02:05.320



of it is that it's it's mutually been a mutually beneficial. Situation,128901:02:06.719 --> 01:02:09.039



Anyway this is this show is fifty percent. Facts for129001:02:09.079 --> 01:02:11.239



percent is a word and fifty is just. Numbers fifty percent.129101:02:11.239 --> 01:02:13.400



Facts this is A Spreaker prime podcast and association With129201:02:13.400 --> 01:02:15.840



Ourheart media on The Obscure Celebrity network AND i will129301:02:15.840 --> 01:02:18.639



talk to you next. Time thanks a, Lot, Ice thanks129401:02:18.679 --> 01:02:18.719



you