May 28, 2025

Netflix’s How to Change Your Mind (2022) | Review

Netflix’s How to Change Your Mind (2022) | Review
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Psychedelics in psychotherapy. That’s the theme of this four-part documentary from Netflix. Can psychedelics break damaging thought patterns and allow people to heal from depression and trauma? This doc series would like to prove that they at least hold promise to do that. We cover episodes #1 (LSD) and #3 (MDMA).

(Interesting, very recent twist: researchers have altered LSD to make it helpful to the brain but unable to cause psychedelic effects.)

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We are gathered together today to talk about the Netflix

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series from twenty twenty two called How to Change Your Mind,

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which is not actually about debate debating, yeah, researching an

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issue and then shifting your position on it. It's about

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literally about how to change your mind with psychedelics.

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I feel like I've watched something on Netflix about the

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prior topic too, though, is it like brain Games or something? Maybe?

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Maybe So there's like a mini documentary talking about just

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obviously how the brain works, and that's what this kind

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of talks about more than I thought. Yeah, and I

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understand they're trying to be like science y, right, They're

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not trying to do like a hippie revolution. Although they

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talk about the history, it's not about the explorative nature

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of these drugs. It's more about the healing possible of it, mushrooms, LSD,

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mdm A. But in particular, we watched LSD and m

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D m A right there, which episodes one and three,

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which I thought were like, actually, like both episodes were

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so different.

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Yeah, And you know, I don't know if.

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It's if it's just a product of just the fact

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that I was tired yesterday and not a lot was

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sticking in my head or the some maybe somewhat repetitive

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nature of these episodes. Yeah, that not a lot of

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it stuck with me the way I anticipated.

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I felt similar overall, but especially with one. I felt

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like one had no story, no timeline, and it was

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just like throwing data and facts that you over and

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over where at least three it kind of buckled down

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on that one. Lady who's holy shit? Talk about the

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short stick? Like what was first? I think it was

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brother odeed, mom killed the entire family and herself, and

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then you know, a rape and a pregnancy, like talk

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about holy to talk about someone that needs.

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Some high level intervention.

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Yeah, that's just not like, yeah, you're not going to

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talk through that one. You're not going to feel through

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those pains. But that one at least had like a story,

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you know. Yeah, it was a little more.

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And that the one, the one, uh the military dude.

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With the PTSD and they're showing like real video of

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like sessions. Yeah, you know, so you kind of get

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a feel of what's going on. Where the first one, yeah,

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I was just like talking about the seventies and then

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talking about the drug and then talking about the scientists,

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and then talking about Germany, and then you know, it's just.

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It was all kind of setting the stage for you know,

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the the psychedelicsis therapy, yeah, angle, but.

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It just didn't even like you said, nothing stuck, Like

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it wasn't that good of a foundation.

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No, it really wasn't.

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And like I feel like there was a time in

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my life that I understood more about that history of DLASD.

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Than they than they portrayed their bio lot.

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Yeah. I do feel also like everything just comes in waves,

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like all this stuff semi popular right now, but it

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was like really popular like four years ago, three years ago,

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and then I don't even know. Yeah, the ayahuasca we

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were just talking off air, like the ayahuasca is kind

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of like the bro version of this. I've listened to

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a lot of podcasts not a lot, but a handful

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of podcasts on psilocybin in particular MDMA, not as much LSD.

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I think those two more enketamines kind of the maybe

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newer one that they're experimenting with real therapies. But I've

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never heard of like a lot of doctors or scientists

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per se talk about ayahuasca. It's always just like you know, well,

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I the lost guy, the lost guy is the one

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talking about.

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You know, I think it's probably the vomiting that that

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twenty four hours, Yeah, puts people off, and yeah, yeah,

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how do you get out of it? There's no I

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don't think you do.

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And then also, I don't know if you're as coherent, right,

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I think that's one of the benefits of maybe MDMA.

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I've never done anything. I'm too scared of my own brain.

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But MDMA seems to be your fucking coherence, so you

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can really talk through some stuff and you're just feeling

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different and the switch is a little different. And I've

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had a lot of friends tell me stories about that

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where they kind of did you know, not recommended, but

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they've done their own therapies of nature that way, yea,

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you know, and try to dig in rather than just

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obviously it's a rave drug, but they've done it just

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trying to dig into themselves a little bit. Where ayahuasca

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at least the stories you hear, yeah, they're just like

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dancing with the devil, you know, you're just finding demons. Yeah,

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and then it sounds like it's so bad. I mean,

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this is obviously my judgment because I've never done it,

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but it sounds like every story I've heard, I've interviewed

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people live about. I've heard interviews everywhere people that are

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very very i wouldn't say knowledgeable, but experienced with ayahuasca,

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and it literally from my end, what I receive is

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that it's so bad that when you come out.

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You just feel so much better because it's over.

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Right, Like you're not talking to like the demons. Yeah

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right where MDMA, at least from this video, sounds like

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it's almost the opposite the one guy's so that was

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kind of like profound. Was He's like, I can really

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explore sadness without being sad, yeah, And I was like, oh,

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that's kind of interesting, right, because like we avoid it. Yeah, right,

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I don't want to think about all the sad shit

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that's happened in my life. And that's why you lose

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memory through trauma, and you lose memory in general, but

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you just lose memory of bad times. Yeah, even if

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something was really bad, like a trip ten years ago,

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you tend to remember the only good stuff, right, Like

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your flight got delayed, yet you got stik, you stub

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your toe or whatever, But that ice cream in Italy

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was so good, you know, That's what you remember, you remember,

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like the really good gelato. Yeah, and yeah, I thought

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that the soldier's take was really really good.

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Some part of me is suspicious that the the psychotherapy,

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the psychedelic psychotherapy angle of it is a little bit

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of a justification, whitewash whatever for making them legal.

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You know.

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Yeah, I felt that way about all this because you

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only hear the good stories and they're few and far between, right,

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Like you only hear the same guys like this Rick Dublin,

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who is the main character, main doctor, I guess in

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the mdmay One. I've seen him on every podcast ever. Yeah,

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but if like this was such a profound medicine, and

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I'm not saying it's not, I think we should be

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able to at least legally explore it somehow with regulation.

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But why isn't there a thousand doctors talking about it?

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There's a thousand doctors talking about like walking and lifting

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weights now, right because that was obviously work and they're

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good and we should push them. And yeah, same with

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the ayahuasca. And again I just draw lines because that's

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what the internet talks about. Yeah, I only hear it

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from the same few fucks, Like what about all the

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ones that went psychic or psychotic. Yeah, like you know

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that happens.

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Yeah, you know, we did.

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Not watch the Cela Cybin episode, but I think I

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probably mentioned on here before. My son Jake, one of

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his friends in high school, his doubles tennis partner, took

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mushrooms and completely lost as shit, like the first time,

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and committed suicide.

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Yeah. I don't think that's uncommon, but for some reason,

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you don't hear those stories. And then and then, as

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far as I know, and again, I'm no real expert,

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I've only handful of podcast, handful of interviews. Person it

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seems like it's not dose dependent, that it's so genetic

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and person dependent, right the person. So like, yeah, the

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very first time you ever do it, you don't know

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what you're doing.

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Yeah, And I will just be transparent and go go

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back to my my early years, like when I was

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when I was growing up, you know, sixties, seventies, early eighties,

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I was pretty fascinated with the with the sixties culture,

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and LSD was a big part of that.

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I mean, you grew up in Norcow.

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I grew up in Norcow, Yeah, exactly, and so I

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you know, I was fascinated by the idea of trying

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LSD when I was in high school. So like, I

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think I did acid three times seventeen eighteen nineteen in

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that in that range. The first time was just funny,

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the second time was a little bit annoying. The third

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time was fun until it wasn't sure and it wasn't

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like there's this question like is it did I get

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from different sources or whatever. No, this is stuff I

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bought all at one time, and the.

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Chances that it was like at least semi natural, it's

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probably better than the now you know that you're not

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getting like fucking fentanyl or yeah, battery acid, Yeah you get.

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I mean, it's just that we had there was this

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micro dot. This is really tiny little paper that they

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drop it on paper and and you put it in

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your mouth and it dissolves, and you know, in a bit,

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you're on your way. Pretty soon, yeah, relatively soon depends

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on the person, but like within an hour or so,

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you're starting to feel something. The way I will say

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that the way they described the colors and the and

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the patterns and the movement and all this stuff on

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the screen pretty close.

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Yeah, it's pretty close. That's a lot of my friends said,

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you know, they're like obviously from the school I went to,

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you know, on the on the Natree hippie side, but

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they're always yeah, out in forest camping.

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And I'm like, dude, that sounds like a nightmare waiting

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to happen, you know, like, and again I only have

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the pop media version of what this looks like. But

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I'm like, dude, as soon as that tree talks to me, like,

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I'm freaking the fuck out.

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Yeah, I didn't have anything like that, And I've you know,

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full admission. On the third time, I went to see

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a double feature of Star Trek two and Star Wars,

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Oh Dobe, which I thought would be super super cool,

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you know whatever. And the fact is that when you're

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for me, when I.

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Was watching the movie movies.

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Visually, I was so locked in on what was going

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on on the screen that I didn't hallucinate or anything.

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I didn't get anything extra out of it. And until

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I left interesting and that last time I thought back

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on something that had happened to me a few years

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before that I had one context for.

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That was.

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Negative, and when I re examined it under a different context,

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I realized more of what actually happened like not like

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I hallucinated different things like if this mashes up to

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the facts better than the.

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Way I remembered it, almost third person did.

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Almost third person it, Yeah, and which was difficult to

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actually kind of difficult to get past. And there's a

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phenomenon with LSD where it changes the sizes of your

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pupils while so your pupils get super big. And then

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toward the end of that, when I was feeling quite awful,

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the instead of being round, they were just kind of jagged,

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which was scary.

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Yeah, sounds very scary.

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Yeah it was, and it wasn't. I wasn't hallucinating it. No,

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that's exactly what was going on. Yeah, So that after

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that time I was done, I didn't really have any

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desire to do it again. I don't know, just just

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being a teenager and being very experience experiential and whatever.

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It's like, you know.

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Yeah, not to uh go back to retrovert here, but

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I forgot to mention Liver King's pupils whereas pupils fucked

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that whole documentary, and you were you.

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Were mentioning that that there was a very brief shot

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of him like loading up with mushrooms.

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And then but even previously that I noticed his pupils,

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and I don't notice a lot of human pupils because

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most people, you know, obviously changes with light. It's a lens,

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and you know it's medium or it's small. But I

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noticed his through every interview. I'm like, dude, something's like

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glassy eyed and fucking huge pupils every interview, Like what

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is this dude? Maybe it's the twelve thousand dollars at HGH.

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I don't know what's going on.

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Well, it really if he was on mushrooms, that to

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explains that whole like thanking the brother.

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Cow or whatever for yeah, yeah, so good.

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Touched the earth and why why his kids were so

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uncomfortable in that? Yeah in that scene it's like, oh,

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dad's high as fuck. Yeah, he's Dad's high again.

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That that scene and then the ayahuasca bros that that

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were very very common over the last again not as

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common right now, I would say, but over the last

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eight years was a big theme online. It always seems

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like the ultra rich also, right, you're not getting these

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experiences of the super positive because like and who knows, again,

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I maybe I'm jaded or even you talking about your

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experience of like it was good to it wasn't. I

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even feel that way with alcohol, and so like that's

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why I don't drink. Like one, I get bad hangovers,

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but two like like an hour in or you do

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one drink too many and I'm like, I don't want

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to feel this no longer and you can't change it, right,

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So then you hear about drugs that you and jest,

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I'm like, well those are gonna be hours and hours. Alcohol,

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you know, really last a couple hours, Like I just

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don't want to experience that. Not it's not even out

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of control or it's not like I'm an angry drunk

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or I'm not fighting, you know, it's not. It's just

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like what's in my head, Like I don't want to

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not feel that any longer, not be able to flip

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it on and off. But yeah, the ultra rich bros

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Are the only ones you hear about, you know, really

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exploring it. I wonder if it's because like again, like

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I think it's become a more common and maybe it's

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because I'm my Twitter's all financial. Now I've officially groomed

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my algorithm to get rid of all like weird porn

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and weird shit going on. It's all financial. But all

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those guys do talk about like, yeah, man, like all

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these brocasses are the ones so many money doesn't make

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you happy, Like, yes, things don't make you happy, but

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money is complete freedom and that's gonna take away a

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lot of stress make life better.

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So well, if you're you know, ultra rich, and again,

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everyone has a different human experience and yeah, you know

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you ultra roots. People still get divorces and bad things happened,

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but a lot of stresses of your life are gone,

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and now you're exploring all this stuff. Yeah, it sounds

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a lot more fun, you know, but you gotta wake

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up on Monday morning at six am and go fucking

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dig a hole. Getting all high on Sunday probably isn't

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as fun. You got a lot of stresses to deal with.

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You know. There's a lot more angry things in the

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back of your head.

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Yeah, I yeah, I don't.

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Like I kind of stopped getting hangovers some years ago

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for whatever reason. I could just you know, like the

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headache and the stomach upset and all this stuff. Just

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now it's just not resting, it's just not sleepingropriately, just

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really really really tired. So I don't drink a whole

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lot anymore. Kind of ever has to be a pretty

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special circumstance.

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That was a real sharp change two or three real

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sharp change online and popularity wise, of like even in

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the fitness space. And I don't know what exact I

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know there was like a study that came out, but

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like there's millions of studies, but one came out and

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all of a sudden, they all changed their mind. You know, Na,

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drinking isn't cool. Not drinking focks you up, Like I

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don't even drink anymore, you know, we're Before that, there

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were more about like yeah, I get shredded with one

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beer a day, you know, Like that the tone switched

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real quick.

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Well, beer was so popular in the cross community.

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Yeah, I mean it's strong man powerlifting. I mean you

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used to go to powerlifting meets and you go to

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the back of room, the warm up room, bro deadless,

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there's literally beers popping already. Yeah, And I do kind

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of like that culturally, right, because then it turns it

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from like yeah, competitive, but we're here to kick it,

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you know. Yeah, yeah, we know no one's getting rich here,

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Like we're here to have a good time. And so

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I do like that. Obviously, highland games like all that stuff,

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kind of medieval esque powerlifting, kinds of medieval less sport

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in a sense too, like yeah, yeah, so like, but

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to feel good mentally and physically probably not it. But

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even this world, I mean, the microdose of whatever, shrooms

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in particular is insanely popular.

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Yeah, and I don't like I I tried to little

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bit a few years ago of of just a little

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bit of like.

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You know, mushroom and chocolate, and I.

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Felt terrible, Yeah, just.

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Like awful, Like my whole body wanted to throw up.

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I didn't throw up, and it wasn't that much. It's

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just obviously it's.

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Not something I'm gonna adapt to and not anything that help.

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But you hear, don't get here helpful. You don't hear

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those stories? Yeah right. Those people are never the ones

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talking about it. Yeah, they're the ones that do it

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once and then never do anything where if someone does

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it loves it and then speaking a CrossFit and whatever.

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They're just on the road and that's their whole personality.

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Every podcast about shrooms, every lunch small talk is about shrooms.

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Every you know, every YouTube video is about their ayahuasca trip,

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changing their ego death or whatever the fuck.

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That's ego death has got to be the biggest fucking scam.

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All that means to me is you recontextualize the view

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of yourself. You didn't become less of an asshole.

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Yeah yeah, again, Like the only people I've heard talk

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about that are like the ultro rich, you know, and

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so like, yeah, maybe. And I have heard again firsthand

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stories in person interviews and whatever of people going to

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I want some kind of having a third person look

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at it, which many also say. I was listening to

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another podcast the other day about meditation that if you

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get really good at it, you're gonna head in that world.

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I've heard a lot of religious folks when they say

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they get deep into prayer, they even get that way,

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you know, And I personally believe that, you know, I

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believe you kind of have a body, you kind of

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have a mind, and my mind's reactionary, and then I

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have a soul, spirit whatever you want to call it.

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There's something else there, and as soon as you can

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kind of detach your mind from that spirit esque thing,

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you can understand and regular therapy does that, Like, Okay,

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why did you react that way? For first off, like,

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well I didn't, you know, my brain did. My brain

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is like a computer, and so how do I gain

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control of all those things? But yeah, if you're the

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ultra rich CEO dickhead type to get to that ultra

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rich CEO and now you're cruising money in life, yeah,

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maybe you have a little third person view and they're like,

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damn that was a dick Yeah, like that that's ego death,

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you know, like maybe I should just be nicer to

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folk and I shouldn't be so cocky confident whatever. And

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you know, that's a whole nother discussion for another day

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of whether you need that personality to get to those positions,

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which I strongly do. And data kind of backs that up, right,

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Like whatever, the number is seventy percent of CEOs or narcissists,

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you know that kind of situation. I don't think it's

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a correlation. I think there's definitely some causation there to

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get to those spots, and probably some causation why those

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guys are the ones head into fucking Peru, slamming tea

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and throwing up all night, you.

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Know, yeah, potentially. Yeah. The interesting thing about them using

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them in clinical situations as it's played out in the world,

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is that LSD does actually have an exemption or whatever

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permit to be able to be used a particular type

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of LSD in therapy. Whereas they thought when this was

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made that MDMA was going to actually get approved by

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the FDA for use in therapy, and it did not. Ya,

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It's was sent back for more research.

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Isn't some of that state by state too, Like obviously

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the federal law crushes everything, but federal weed still illegal

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and it's legal in twin states because I've heard Seattle

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does a lot of the testing in Oregon, Yeah, because

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they just made their state legal and they just hope

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FBI doesn't knock at their door.

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Yeah. Yeah, and we'll see what happens there. I don't know.

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I think that they're we're in a time where too

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many former legislators are making money off of weed for

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it just for there to be in real state enforcement

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at this point.

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Yeah, true, true, true. I wonder. Yeah. Internationally, like obviously

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the mini history they talk a lot about Europe, but

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even still, I've heard that even medicine wise, you know,

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it's like the Swiss, Germany, et cetera. Are just always

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kind of pushing the boundaries, even like stem celly type stuff.

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I think was first kind of really pushed over in

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Germany versus here.

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I didn't realize that MDMA was as old as it is.

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Yeah, what they say blood clots were first trying to

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find a blood clot fix, Yeah, and then it turned

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out to just make you high with love. I don't

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know love drug. Yeah, I'm no chemist, but I think

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that's what they said. I'm like, damn that. Yeah, because

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it sounded old, Yeah, fifties, sixties.

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Sixties, I think. Yeah.

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I I can't actually cite chapter and verse on this,

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but I have in the past, I don't know, probably

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six or eight months, listen to a podcast talking about

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whether MDMA is is actually good for therapy or not.

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And the deal is that, like there's a percentage of

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people that it does help in a sustainable way, and

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then there's another percentage of people who.

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Don't get helped at all.

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And in the middle of the people who get some

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help for some period of time and then revert and

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then have to either go back or they're just screw Yeah.

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I did like the one doctor. I think it was

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the MAINMA guy that was doing the in person sessions.

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I forgot his name, But he also talked about like

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he thinks that these are like actual fixes because they

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chemically get into your brain. He's like, we're like, and

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I've seen it too, and you know, you may have

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a different experience, but like I've had some really good

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therapists in my life. It's a really bad therapist in

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my life, but I do like in them often to

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like the chiropractor, that's just like trying to sign you

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for a lifetime contract. You know, like they're not like

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trying to actually like fix a problem. And of course

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our mentals aren't always something to fix or and we're ongoing,

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evolving human of course, so other things come up and

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you can always learn, and you know, it never like

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hurts to confess or speak openly with another human, but

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they do seem to like try to keep it going forever.

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And this guy's like, dude, I think, you know, MDMA,

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if I get this going right, can actually you know,

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lack of a better term, fix These PTSDs are really extreme

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and if that philosophy and he truly believes in that,

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I do like that that we're trying to do that right,

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get to the root. Same issue with you know, we

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can go deeper into pharmaceuticals in our medical system in

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the beginning. To begin with, it's a lot like your mechanic.

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You know, he'll fix the oil and tell you this

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is broken, this is broken, and they just want you

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to come back over and over every fucking month rather

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than Yeah, like why is in our and sure many

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great doctors tell you to go walk and eat healthy,

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but why aren't they actually prescribing and working with you

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to get healthy? Right telling an obese person when they

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come to the office, like, yeah, sebost, you should really

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walk more and eat more greens. You know that's not

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actually helping your patient. No, Like they know that, they

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know they should, But how do we set up the

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habits and the routine and the accountability to kind of

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get there. So if that doctor believes in that, I do.

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I do agree and like that, but I don't know

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if the drugs are the answer either.

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Yeah.

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My experience, I only have had one therapist. I saw

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him for five years and he kicked me out sort of,

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I mean he kicked me out, but he just got

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he got to the point of saying, I don't know what.

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You're getting it from this.

465
00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:12.839
At this point, like I started off going I don't know,

466
00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:16.319
maybe the maybe twice a week for a short period

467
00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:18.400
of time, and then down to one once a week,

468
00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:20.480
and then every every other week, and I was down

469
00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:23.880
to once a month, and it was just a conversation.

470
00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:26.960
Was a similar age to me, some similar background or whatever.

471
00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:32.000
And it got to the point where it was it

472
00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:35.319
was less about just me talking and more about us

473
00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:38.799
both talking about our personal experiences that he was like, actually,

474
00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:42.279
you know, you're just paying me to, you know, basically

475
00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:44.480
have a conversation you might have over a drink with

476
00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:47.680
a friend. Yeah, And and so I haven't and I

477
00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:48.279
haven't been back.

478
00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:50.640
I thought about it. I've had other other things to

479
00:23:50.720 --> 00:23:53.000
deal with that I thought I could go back. It's like,

480
00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:53.759
I don't even want to.

481
00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:55.599
I don't even know what it would take to make

482
00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:59.759
that call at this point. Sure, you know, uh and

483
00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:02.079
in maybe talking to somebody else that somewhere along the

484
00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:04.279
line would have produced a different result. But I know that,

485
00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:08.160
like I put it off too long, Like, yeah, I

486
00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:11.000
put it off because I had like a whole bag

487
00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:13.319
full of shit to deal with by the time that

488
00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:18.640
I did it. And and you know, like I I

489
00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:22.400
totally sympathized with the with the with the PTSD stuff,

490
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:26.480
and I I didn't understand that, like I think you

491
00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:29.440
said in here, like like regular people get PTSD. It's

492
00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:36.480
not like a exclusively military experience explaining Yeah, like there

493
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:40.599
are things that still like they're they're kind of faint

494
00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:43.160
echoes compared to what they used to be. But I

495
00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:46.279
could you know, two or three different things that have

496
00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:49.240
happened over time, I could just absolutely obsess over, like

497
00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:52.519
my mind would not let them go, and not to

498
00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:56.720
the point of of being unable to cope with the world,

499
00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:02.759
just enough for it to disrupt sleep and just be

500
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:03.880
anxious all the time.

501
00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:06.720
You know, well, yeah you would. I don't know what

502
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:09.920
a healthy human is, but you would think having any

503
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:13.599
kind of ruminating thought probably isn't the norm or the average,

504
00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:16.400
Like you probably shouldn't just have a cloud sitting in there.

505
00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:20.160
No, no, But at the same time, like if you

506
00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:22.920
have to have almost no empathy at all for stuff,

507
00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:25.839
really difficult stuff, not to bother me for a period

508
00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:29.799
of time, for sure, for sure, Like I don't know,

509
00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:31.559
I don't know, I don't know how to fade those things.

510
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:34.200
But clearly the people that they talked to in the

511
00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:36.480
course of this during the time that they were filming

512
00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:40.359
it with the DMA part got better.

513
00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:43.079
Yeah, it seems like it. Yeah, seems like it was helping.

514
00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:46.200
I mean it makes you wonder if they filmed segments

515
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:47.480
with people who didn't get better.

516
00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:49.839
Right, That's that's my kind of whole point to all this.

517
00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:54.240
And same with regular like you know, the therapy styles

518
00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:56.880
like yeah, it doesn't like just fix everyone, yeah, you know,

519
00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:59.839
but like I don't know if it's ever made anyone worse, yeah,

520
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:02.079
or I don't know if this you could say the

521
00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:05.079
same for this style of therapy, that's probably true, you know.

522
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:06.559
And again like yeah they.

523
00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:10.960
And and it's probably It's the same thing with actual medications.

524
00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:15.200
Too, No, Yeah, I just yeah, I just feel like, yeah,

525
00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.359
medications that are messing with your mind, they obviously you know,

526
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.200
they're illegal. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know, because

527
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:23.799
because part of me is obviously semi conspiratorial, like why

528
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:25.599
is everything fucking illegal? You know, like what are you

529
00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:28.680
fucking hiding? And the cultural essence of this all like

530
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:31.119
I think they said MDMA was even legal to like

531
00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:33.680
the mid eighties, right, Yeah, one of my favorite movies

532
00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.319
came out in like nineteen ninety four, the first Bad Boys,

533
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:41.160
and the tone called propaganda at this point. Goddamn it.

534
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:44.079
The tone it's all about ecstasy, and it makes it

535
00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:47.039
feel like it's the Devil's Billy, you know, and you're like,

536
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.400
damn really, And I was too young to understand at

537
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:51.240
the time, you know, I watched Bad Boys probably in

538
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:54.240
high school, so I saw it well after. But then

539
00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:56.200
you think about, Okay, if it came out in ninety four,

540
00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:59.960
and let's say MDMA was legal in eighty eighty four,

541
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:04.079
like damn in ten years, that feels like propaganda at

542
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:06.359
that point, like it was totally legal, and now this

543
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:09.720
movie's making it look like, you know, Cubans are bringing

544
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:12.519
in in by the boatloads and poisoning all of Miami,

545
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:15.440
you know. And so yeah, part of me thinks, like,

546
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.079
all right, is the power above just trying to like

547
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:21.359
deal with money because all these drugs are obviously out

548
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:24.720
hold high value when they're illegal. But then the other

549
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:27.200
part of me thinks like, yeah, maybe we need tighter

550
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:31.039
regulations because you're not gonna go take any I don't know,

551
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:33.799
I'm arguing myself in my head because I was gonna say, like,

552
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.039
you're not gonna go take like one volume and then

553
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:37.960
ruin your life. But a lot of people do too,

554
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:40.119
because I was gonna say, you do one session with

555
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:43.000
mdm A or LSD and it triggers off your brain

556
00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:46.160
and now you're a different human. Yeah, you know, And

557
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:48.039
I guess a lot of our meds do do that too.

558
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:51.119
So I don't know, I don't know the answer, folks.

559
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:59.839
Yeah, they're I mean, there are definitely they're definitely legal,

560
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:05.319
FDA approved drugs that that do change how people's personalities work,

561
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:09.559
in the way they present themselves, maybe to a certain

562
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:11.519
extent of the way they think, and more likely.

563
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:13.839
The high level of addiction just from pain, right, Like

564
00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:16.240
that's the normal story, back pain, get on one of

565
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:19.480
these pain killers. Now you're addicted for life, and three

566
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:21.599
weeks later you're sucking dick for some heroin. You know.

567
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:25.599
Like that's just what you hear. It's what you hear. Yeah,

568
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:29.079
that's that's a pretty quick dissent. Yeah, they really liked it.

569
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:33.319
We lost the fentanyl. Fentanyl, right, Fentel's legal. Yeah, it's

570
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:35.519
a legal drug. It's just it's just been used in

571
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:38.400
an illegal way. Yeah, and brought in by the masses. Yeah, right,

572
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.000
but like, yeah, regular fentanyl. It's been used forever.

573
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:46.799
Here's the question is, like, you want to talk about

574
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:49.880
a conspiracy.

575
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:51.480
Yes, they killed Michael Jackson.

576
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:55.480
Yeah, I wasn't referring to that specifically. I'm not I'm

577
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:58.160
not not commenting on the veracity one we're or the other.

578
00:28:58.640 --> 00:28:58.920
Uh.

579
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.720
Well, I mean it's been proven that the government was

580
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:06.599
behind cracked cocaine.

581
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:08.160
Yeah, not entirely.

582
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:10.799
They didn't like create it, but they know they got

583
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:12.680
it into yeah, into.

584
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:17.680
Communities, same timeline, right, Yeah, the Reagan they had Reagan

585
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:18.839
clips in the MDMA one.

586
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:19.119
Yeah.

587
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:23.240
I think mentioned like, yeah, being able to control certain races.

588
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:24.960
Yeah, the war on drugs, Yeah, I mean the war

589
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.960
on drugs, the whole privatizing of the jail system lines

590
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:30.359
up pretty equally with that. There's a lot of again,

591
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.000
like you can call a correlation, but there's a lot

592
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:36.279
of things that line up really tightly in that era

593
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:42.039
of drugs, Uh, you know, less fortunate neighborhoods, uh, certain

594
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.799
skin tones and these drugs being released out there and

595
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:45.640
then being arrested.

596
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:54.599
Yeah, yeah exactly. And one wonders if, like the knowledge

597
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:58.039
that there's fentanyl out there that's getting mixed into other

598
00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:01.240
things by its self makes.

599
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:05.680
Street drugs less safe now, all of them in general, Yeah, everywhere,

600
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:08.519
top to bottom. I mean, I forgot what I was watching.

601
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:10.960
I think it was a live stream of somebody at

602
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:12.359
like an event, you know. I think it was just

603
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:14.440
like a regular music venor. It might have been Marty Gral.

604
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:16.359
It might have been Marty Gral. Was Marty Girl this

605
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:17.200
in the spring? Right?

606
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:17.599
Yeah?

607
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:18.960
Yeah, a couple of weeks ago. I think I was

608
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.880
watching a streamer walk Marti Gras And there's volunteers out

609
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:28.079
there handing us the the drug to get you out

610
00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:34.319
of like a oh you know what I'm talking about. Yeah,

611
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.160
I know what you're talking about, basically like a counter

612
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.240
to all these yeah twothent al to lace drugs. And

613
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:44.279
they're handing out necklaces with a little like narkam narkan.

614
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:47.720
They're harding out necklaces with narcan at the bottom. It's

615
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:50.640
like all these motherfuckers, whether it's weed, whatever, they're partying

616
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:52.640
like there's a high chance that's gonna be in there.

617
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:58.559
That's interesting, and a narcan and any.

618
00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:00.119
Of the drugs that kind of reverse the fact of

619
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:01.480
other drugs.

620
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:06.720
Uh, you can't just like self administer or have somebody administer.

621
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:08.319
For you and then be out of the woods.

622
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.000
Sure, because it's got to be got to be monitored

623
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:12.680
and they have to be repeated or.

624
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:13.799
What knows what's going to your heart?

625
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:16.680
Yeah, or exactly, So I mean like hit that call

626
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:19.000
nine one one, Yeah, exactly exactly.

627
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:21.279
You can't you can't just you can't rely.

628
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:22.920
On that to be But just the fact that that's

629
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.400
the norm. Yeah, right where you go to any festival whatever,

630
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:28.839
even ten years ago and they're handing out credit card

631
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:30.640
bills or you know, they're trying to sell you a

632
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:32.720
credit card or something like, it's just a different environment.

633
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:35.400
But this nonprofit or whoever they were, they might have

634
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:37.960
just been regular citizens trying to help. We're out there

635
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:39.480
handing that shit out and you're like, damn bro, like

636
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:43.119
it really is that common and that crazy? Yeah, And

637
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:50.519
they definitely killed Michael Jackson. That was fitting all too. Propofol,

638
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:56.559
oh propofol probably with that and all maybe that doctor

639
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.160
still just stomping around Hollywood just drugging up everything. Is

640
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:00.839
I thought they put him in Yeah, I don't know,

641
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:02.359
I don't know. I'm making it up. We need a

642
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:06.359
doc to follow it up. A documentary. I thought for sure,

643
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:08.559
I hope, so I don't know. I wouldn't say for sure. Bro,

644
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:12.680
Hollywood feels so sketchy. The other we talked about it too,

645
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:16.079
the other dentist guy who's a body brothers fucking drugging up.

646
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:23.319
Kanye Yeah, damn yeah.

647
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:26.839
Yeah, just slanging nitrous. Yeah it's insane.

648
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:28.160
Yeah I don't get that.

649
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:31.640
Yeah, drug culture is insane. I think it's way more common, uh,

650
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:34.279
way more common than people think. I was watching talk

651
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:36.319
about to wrap this in a circle here. I was

652
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:39.480
watching an NBA game. It was a clip but from

653
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.960
last week or the week before. I think it was Oklahoma,

654
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:46.279
which not somewhere you would think is you know, yeah, you're.

655
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:48.079
Talking about the luxury box through the window.

656
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:52.319
No, this guy was like six rows back in like

657
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.799
an okay, see Jersey just ripping a bump off his

658
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:56.799
finger in the middle of the game, and they caught

659
00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:00.000
him on the Megatron. They were just scanning the audience. Yeah,

660
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.519
Audi ESPN, and this dude's just hitting a bump off

661
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:04.359
his fucking you know, and you're like, dude.

662
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:05.480
I thought that guy was in a box. I thought

663
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:06.200
they were shooting through.

664
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.279
Maybe maybe there's multiple Yeah, maybe so.

665
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.279
I remember seeing a clip.

666
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:12.440
Like that, how insane, Like a box makes a little

667
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:13.880
more sense, you know, at least some rich folk and

668
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:15.799
they think they're in the privacy. I swear the one

669
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:19.720
I saw this dude's like mid section bottom row, just

670
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:21.960
ripping cocaine off his own finger in the middle of

671
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.279
a basketball game while the jumbletron comes honest, you know,

672
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:27.160
and you're like, share drugs that common? Like it's insane

673
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:29.319
to me. Maybe I'm naive. I mean I'm not because

674
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:31.680
you know, in my twenties, I didn't do any drugs,

675
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:33.319
but yeah, I'd go to bars or whatever, and you

676
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:35.839
make more friends with some locals and I found out

677
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.799
how like common cocaine is, and even Sacramento, and you're like,

678
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:39.680
what the fuck?

679
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.359
Yeah, where do people get the money for the cocaine? Well?

680
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:46.279
Yeah, well and like why, like what's the first time,

681
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:48.039
you know, you just have one friend say hey, this

682
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:49.559
is hell the fun and you're gonna do it. Like,

683
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:50.680
I'm just not that guy.

684
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:52.400
I think you're right. It is in the seats. This

685
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:52.920
is the one.

686
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:57.160
It's like a regular ass looking white dude. Maybe I

687
00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:59.920
thought he had a jersey on. Oh it's Minnesota. Yeah,

688
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:04.000
that's probably yet insane insane on the megatron that got

689
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:13.559
his dumbass. Yeah, insane activities. Yeah. Minnesota, you know, yeah,

690
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.840
I remember you think a poorer, poorer state. Yeah, you know,

691
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:19.199
because when you think Okaine, you obviously think rich white folks.

692
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.559
You're thinking New York, LA. Yeah, you're in fucking Minnesota

693
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:23.480
in the freezing gold.

694
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:25.840
Yeah. Well, I mean, in his defense, it could have been.

695
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:28.079
Meth so yeah, no, it could have been. Yeah, it

696
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:29.480
could have been a lot of things. What the fuck

697
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:32.719
do we know? It could have been Yeah, crunched up MDMA.

698
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:34.119
Who knows, I don't know.

699
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.880
You probably haven't been watching uh a poker Face. No,

700
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:43.079
there's a there's an episode, the most recent episode of

701
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:46.519
poker Face. Poker Face is is like a comedy mystery

702
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:53.920
thing based off of the structure of Colombo from the seventies. Okay,

703
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:57.159
the sort of movie of the week kind of mystery

704
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:03.880
whatever whatever, and uh Kamail non Gianni plays this uh,

705
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:10.519
this cop who has rescued an alligator and he wins

706
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:12.920
like a cop of the year year after year after

707
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:13.360
year after.

708
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.719
This is a comedy. Yes, I was sayin weird.

709
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:22.159
And uh uh his uh his rival with that is

710
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.199
an h. The actress who plays it is the little

711
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:28.039
is the was the little girl.

712
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:29.960
In Field of Dreams.

713
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.480
Okay, it's probably grown up, yeah, grown up now, and

714
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.760
uh she's you know, she's really a good cop and

715
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.719
he's a like sensational cop whatever. And he's just turned

716
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.239
over the course of like nine years, it turns into

717
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:45.639
his whole personality.

718
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:46.320
He's got like.

719
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:51.760
He's got uh uh, his hair is bleached, and he's like,

720
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:56.599
she's got catchphrases and yeah, yeah, rockstar, Gator Dunn and whatever.

721
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.440
And she decides to because they have to use for reason,

722
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:01.519
he's got this.

723
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.840
This alligator drugged all the time so that it doesn't

724
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:08.800
kill people, and because he just kept it, yes, And because.

725
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:12.519
Because the thing is drugged all the time, then they

726
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:16.280
have to use like a laxative to keep it pooping,

727
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:21.119
because it would eventually stop pooping because.

728
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:22.480
Of the sleep coma.

729
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:25.880
Yeah, and his gut goes to sleep.

730
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:35.000
And so she slips this alligator laxative into his energy shots.

731
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:37.880
He's got like like five hour energy but just like

732
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:40.199
two hour energy whatever, and he takes it and he

733
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:44.199
cannot stop shitting and he This is major spoiler. Territories

734
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:47.639
for people who are actually watching boker face. Uh, he

735
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:51.519
shits himself to death and actual death, actual death. Yes,

736
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:54.800
he actually dies. And to cover it up, she gives

737
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.079
the alligator meth like, puts it down to its nostrils

738
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:00.280
and so it too.

739
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:05.760
So you know that sounds wild. Yes, that sounds like

740
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:07.400
a comedy of old it was, it was.

741
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:08.079
It's great.

742
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:10.880
It's funn that's brand new. Yes, yeah, it sounds like

743
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:11.920
o G comedy.

744
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:15.360
The best the best part of it is that when

745
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:18.360
you look into the alligator's eyes, you get it's like

746
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:20.440
a trip, like the LSD trip, you know, with like

747
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:21.920
all the patterns whatever.

748
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:23.760
It's amazing.

749
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:26.320
It's up on Peacock folks, if you want to.

750
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:29.280
There, you go check that out. Comedies are back, mate, It's.

751
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:33.000
Pretty it's pretty fun watching this. I was wondering because

752
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:36.000
we did episodes one and three. Am I gonna want

753
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.119
to go back and watch the second and the fourth?

754
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:39.880
And what's your gut feeling on that?

755
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.679
Probably never Yeah, I like the topic to Yeah, they

756
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.199
just make it like and I understand they want to

757
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:47.880
make a professional right because I'm sure one of the

758
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:50.360
producers of the Doctors wanted to seem you know, they

759
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:54.639
want to push their proper agenda, but then it's like

760
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:58.360
two stale, you know, like I don't need you know,

761
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:01.079
a hippie naked runner the forest high, but I need

762
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:05.599
some something, yeah, you know, And that lady's story was something.

763
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:08.599
Super compelling, but that's like the veteran guy was.

764
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:11.159
Yeah, it was good, but there's just like nothing really

765
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:14.480
going on. And then when they did do I don't

766
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:21.400
mind like little cut scenes in documentaries, you know, the

767
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:23.920
supersized me, I guess is like the easiest one that

768
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:26.199
most people have watched, like their little cartoon animations. I

769
00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:28.719
don't mind that stuff. But then these weren't even like good,

770
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.320
you know. They're like showing you like a forest that's

771
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:34.440
like again like yeah trippy, you know. I'm like, well,

772
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:36.119
that's not really you know, I.

773
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:39.280
Will say in the MDMA episode, like all those people

774
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:42.960
were I think they showed like three different people maybe four,

775
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:45.079
I don't know, in their sessions.

776
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.239
Yeah, they're all super articulate.

777
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:50.159
That's what. Again, I've never done any of these drugs,

778
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:52.239
but it seems like it's just so different than others.

779
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.760
It seems like that's probably why iowas because not in

780
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:57.760
this categories. It seems like you're very there. Yeah, yeah,

781
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.880
not only art particulate, but smart and like, yeah, you

782
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:03.519
could see their distress like that one guy's like screaming,

783
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:07.280
you know, out himself kind of, but yeah, they're like there,

784
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:10.000
They're definitely there. You can have a regular ass conversation.

785
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:12.119
Yeah, whereas with LSC that's not really the case.

786
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:14.440
Yeah, I'm sure and iauaska at least what I hear.

787
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:18.159
I've seen other documentaries. The Aaron Rodgers one isn't bad.

788
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:20.719
I don't think we did that one. I watched it

789
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:22.519
a long time ago when it first came out. It

790
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:25.199
wasn't bad just because like Aaron can talk well, you know,

791
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:29.199
he's obviously famous, and then and he goes through his

792
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:31.559
history as like a good chronological time, you know, like

793
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:34.679
the the basics we talk about in documentaries. The recipe

794
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.119
stands true, Like this doesn't have a timeline, Like, yeah,

795
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:38.679
they show the history of it kind of, but we're

796
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:42.280
not following a story, right where Aaron talks about his

797
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.119
college career then is you know, getting looked over whatever

798
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:47.280
whatever kind of goes through all of it, separation of

799
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:50.559
his family, et cetera. So in that sense, it was

800
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:53.400
really good it was. It was Netflix too, but yeah,

801
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:55.599
I'm probably not not going back to this one, sadly.

802
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:57.519
Yeah, I'm not going back to it either.

803
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.480
I'm not saying that it was bad.

804
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:03.159
You know, if you're like a therapist, you're like really

805
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:05.840
into this stuff. Yeah, but it felt like somebody should

806
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.960
watch in college, you know, like, but even that, it

807
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:11.280
wasn't like that educational person it really was, but it

808
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:13.880
was that tone. Yeah, it was like an educational tone.

809
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:21.199
And I mean, you know the top three you know documentaries.

810
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.119
In my opinion, ever, is probably like a Planet Earth

811
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:27.679
a Nicharus, where Icarus has cool cut scenes, right, they

812
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:31.239
do little animations, It has a chronological time and then

813
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:33.119
it has like real education, like you learn a lot

814
00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:35.320
about the Olympics and the drug testing system there and

815
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:39.320
sport and other countries. And Planet Earth obviously is like

816
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:41.800
the easiest. It's got the crazy visuals. They make up

817
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:44.400
a timeline. It's probably lies, but they make up a

818
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.519
timeline right of the ant he's born today, and like, bitch,

819
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:49.320
you're not following the same ant for a year. But

820
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:53.760
I get it. But it is educational, but you don't

821
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:58.800
feel it doesn't feel like vanilla. This felt very vanilla.

822
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:01.760
It did, and it really didn't spend much time at all,

823
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:03.000
unless I just missed it.

824
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:07.280
On on the negatives, No, they didn't mention one. Yeah,

825
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:09.719
I don't even think they mentioned psychosis. No, I don't

826
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:11.760
think And again, like I think every drug, you know,

827
00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:15.840
I think someone could take marijuana for the first time technically, right, like.

828
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:19.159
Yeah, technically it's just like losing that grip on. Yeah,

829
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:20.000
in your mind.

830
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:23.039
If your brain's wired a little different than most, you're yeah,

831
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:24.880
you're gonna be done. And of course they never mentioned

832
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:27.880
that because again, who paid for it? Who's back?

833
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.719
And end right? SeaBASS, did you watch any of this?

834
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:33.599
Do you watch that? The whole thing? I watched both

835
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:34.480
of them.

836
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:38.360
Yeah, give us your reaction and like the reaction you

837
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:42.599
walked in here willing to say as opposed to as

838
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:44.159
opposed to reacting to what we said.

839
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.280
I was uh when I was watching it, I was like,

840
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:49.079
uh huh, maybe maybe I want to try this out,

841
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:50.760
but will I probably not?

842
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:51.400
Yeah.

843
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:53.960
Yeah, I was like, Oh, it's interesting how they're using

844
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:57.960
it like within therapy and how it quote unquote a

845
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.199
quote unquote like helps people with PTSD.

846
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:02.519
And all that. I was like, oh that' kind of cool.

847
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:05.000
It might be like one of those extreme like you know,

848
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:09.320
reference to I don't know, extreme times need extreme measures,

849
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.119
Like if you have had such traumatic like that poor

850
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:15.760
lady or this guy, the war veteran, like yeah, like

851
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:20.760
even psychosis is probably worth the risk, right, Like you

852
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.719
you might be so trapped in a nightmare that this

853
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:24.519
might be there, but.

854
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:26.119
How much worse? Really good?

855
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:29.360
Right? And you're just so tortured, you know you.

856
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:32.599
Like that lady, even her like walking up to like

857
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:36.119
her door, she would hear her dogs just like tapping

858
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:38.400
on the floor. She's like, yeah, I don't I don't

859
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:40.360
feel good. Yeah, even going into my own house.

860
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:42.280
I was like, right, yeah, Like that's twenty four to

861
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:47.199
seven torture. Where the issue then becomes if they I

862
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:48.960
don't want to say promote it, but if you make

863
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:52.079
it popularized like this and you get someone with lesser

864
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:54.599
levels of trauma, and who am I to judge your trauma?

865
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:56.679
But you know what I mean, Like you're pretty functioning

866
00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:58.559
and you just have bad times. Even me, you know,

867
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:02.119
I've dealt with depression since you know, fourth grade. I

868
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:04.559
just don't need like that level of escape, you know,

869
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:06.400
I don't need that level of answer. And I think

870
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:09.880
that's my biggest issue with all of our medical system too, right,

871
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:11.559
Like you get a little bit of back pain and

872
00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:14.119
now you're on muscle spasm medicine. Now you're on this

873
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:17.199
pain killer. Like, dude, just like go dead live, you know,

874
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:20.440
like walk, lose some weight, find a way to fix

875
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:23.880
your back first, versus the guy who snapped his spine

876
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:26.880
in three overseas Like, okay, that guy might need these

877
00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:29.800
muscle spas and relaxers every night, you know. And that's

878
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:34.280
just like culturally where we are as patients and as doctors.

879
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.639
Yeah, And I don't know that the medical system right

880
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:43.079
now too, Like you're doctors are very focused on tamping

881
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.559
down a bunch of shit and then starting to.

882
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:48.199
Ignore you forever, right, that's.

883
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:52.119
Yeah, and that medically psychologically.

884
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:55.559
Yeah, I mean it's just become obviously a business, yeah right,

885
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:59.719
And I'm a capitalist at heart, but certain things don't

886
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:00.719
need to be capitalized.

887
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:05.599
Yeah, all right, let's let's rate don't do drugs, kids,

888
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:09.440
don't do drugs. Unless you're going to do drugs.

889
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:11.559
Then we're not. We can't stop either way.

890
00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:16.159
Yeah, I'm I think maybe we can rate this one on.

891
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:19.639
Let's say tabs of acid? Why not?

892
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:24.559
How many acid tabs am I taking? Pretty low? Sadly,

893
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:28.239
this wasn't bad. Yeah, like, can we split it up?

894
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:29.960
Can we again like we did the last week, talk

895
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:33.760
about like execution versus yeah, versus subject matter?

896
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.559
Like subject matter is so interesting but they missed you know,

897
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:41.280
I think the subject is so interesting. It's just part

898
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:44.679
of it because it's taboo, right, But even that's probably

899
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:49.559
a two. And again this wasn't like bad, but there's

900
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:53.800
like the the it's like a steak with no salt. Yeah,

901
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:56.239
you know, like I'm still gonna it's a steak, you know,

902
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:57.360
like if I got a ribbon in front of me,

903
00:44:57.400 --> 00:44:59.039
I'm probably gonna bang it out. But like you just

904
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:01.760
add salt and it's gonna take it to the next league.

905
00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:04.639
This had no salt, so like even the other, Yeah,

906
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.360
that execution is probably a two. Also, I do think

907
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:09.760
there's a big difference between episode one and three, though three.

908
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:10.840
I think I executed a lot that.

909
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:11.920
Yeah, three as much better.

910
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:14.599
One one just felt very all over the place. I couldn't,

911
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:16.840
like you said, like nothing stuck. I was trying to

912
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:19.000
like really pay attention. I was like, Dad, I don't

913
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:21.320
I can't follow their train of thought.

914
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:23.239
I think part of it is that there's so much

915
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:26.320
information about LSD out there they couldn't figure out which

916
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:29.519
were the most salient points and just like ride that line.

917
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:33.960
Yeah, they were like San Francisco, Germany, this doctor that they.

918
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:35.280
Couldn't pick a point of view and just kind of

919
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:38.079
stick with it even if it was biased or whatever.

920
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:43.239
And with with the the MDMA ones, if they had

921
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:48.960
dug deeper, like dealt with one or two people and

922
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.119
one or two scientists and dug deeper into their backgrounds

923
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.400
about it, and and if we if we were able

924
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:59.039
to see what the people who were helped looked like

925
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:00.800
or acted like beforehand.

926
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:02.840
Yeah, I realize that's asking a lot. But at the

927
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:03.599
same time.

928
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:05.400
Yeah, you're making a Netflix movie or like you said,

929
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:07.920
show the bad. Yeah, go find one dude that had

930
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.159
the worst trip of his life and just interview him. Yeah,

931
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:11.480
I'm sure someone volunteer.

932
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:13.519
Yeah, and that's just not in there at all. So

933
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.000
it's not I mean, it's not balanced in that way.

934
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:18.800
But again, yeah, it wasn't like bad. Yeah, it just

935
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:19.880
was like far from good.

936
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:23.880
Yeah. See best you gotta uh.

937
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:24.239
I'll agree.

938
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:26.800
I like the third episode better just because it has

939
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:28.639
stories behind it. Uh.

940
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:30.159
The first episode, it was just interesting.

941
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.760
It was interesting seeing how the doctor is just like,

942
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:34.519
all right, I'm just gonna start.

943
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.400
Taking this city. Yeah, is that is? I shout out

944
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:37.679
to him.

945
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:37.960
Yeah.

946
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.119
Well, and what about the labb he walked in Like

947
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:43.079
his garage was all rusty. There's a sign that said

948
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:45.239
like nuclear power or something. He walks in, I'm like, dude,

949
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:48.440
I'm not touching anything in there like that looks so unsanitary.

950
00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:52.360
It literally looked like his backyard. There's files everywhere of

951
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.159
a laquid bath. Yeah, that's what it looked like.

952
00:46:55.280 --> 00:47:01.440
Yeah, I would say that I would give the the

953
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:05.519
third episode maybe a three for execution, yeah, and maybe

954
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:09.480
a two and a half for for uh for subject.

955
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:14.360
The first one, I don't know, probably just like maybe

956
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:19.400
two two and a half for both on both sides

957
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:23.920
of it. It it just wasn't as as it wasn't

958
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:25.639
as good as I expected it to be, and it

959
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:28.599
didn't have the it didn't have the stick to your

960
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:30.440
brain news of that I was expecting.

961
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:33.360
So just for Netflix, I do think Netflix does good dogs.

962
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:35.440
I think they're the original Planet Earth.

963
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:38.440
Right, No, I think it's that's that was PBS.

964
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:41.880
Oh really yeah, pretty sure because I can't find BBS

965
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:43.800
and I thought it was an that geo and it's

966
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:47.400
not PBS and BBC, I think, oh maybe bbcus a

967
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:51.440
homeboy ye Edinborough. Yeah, but yeah, like Netflix makes really

968
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.760
good stuff and even even the The liver King, right,

969
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:56.079
like the last episode, you guys go check it out,

970
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:58.760
like what was better than this?

971
00:47:59.079 --> 00:47:59.320
Yeah?

972
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:02.159
Although well, and obviously it's I don't know because the

973
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:03.920
subject matter still sucks there too, you.

974
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:07.440
Know, subject matter sucks hard, but like so hard, but

975
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:09.599
even just like visually, like there was there was more

976
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:12.159
to that than this, for sure. I think that they're Yeah,

977
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:15.159
I think that that both of these had really good

978
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.599
directors of photography. Yeah, but they didn't necessarily have the

979
00:48:18.599 --> 00:48:19.280
best direction.

980
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:20.559
Yeah, and it is.

981
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:23.159
Whoever land land I think is the best words. Just

982
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:24.000
very bland to me.

983
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:26.039
Yeah, no, I agree, one hundred percent.

984
00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:27.519
Nothing that makes me want to come back.

985
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:29.519
Yeah, no, I didn't.

986
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:33.079
I I in watching the first one, I thought, well,

987
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:35.960
if it gets better than this, maybe we'll want to

988
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:39.079
watch all of them and knock out the other two episodes.

989
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:40.480
And it's like, no, I don't think so.

990
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:44.079
It's it's weird because documentaries are like popular, so you

991
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:46.960
think more and more talent and time would go you know, Yeah,

992
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:49.679
they're getting more popular. I guess like I feel like

993
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:51.920
fifteen years ago, one would come out every two years.

994
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:53.119
Now they're everywhere.

995
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:56.400
And I think that there's a difference to between your

996
00:48:56.440 --> 00:49:00.840
standalone like feature link documentary and the documentary. I think

997
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:06.199
that maybe Netflix might be funding the the series kind

998
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:09.079
of upfront, where the standalones they are kind of made

999
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:10.199
on spec and then sold.

1000
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:12.599
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so their baby budget. Yeah, this did

1001
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:15.880
feel low budget. Yeah, but you can't blame on but no, no,

1002
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:19.320
we're again opposed to liver King. Did feel high budget,

1003
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.400
Yeah I did, And obviously it's newer, but still it

1004
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.280
just felt that way that they're I don't know where

1005
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:28.880
the budget went, but it felt higher budget.

1006
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:31.519
I just can't get past how bad that was.

1007
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:32.480
No, it's not good.

1008
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:35.920
It's just how just how cringe. It was so cringe

1009
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:40.360
and and just didn't man, it just it was so

1010
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:43.760
it just so let him off the hook. I mean,

1011
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:48.320
we're still talking about it days later, but damn, all right,

1012
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:50.639
Mikey's going on assignment for a little bit.

1013
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:54.599
We're out, We're out. This bitch but Yeah. New episodes Wednesday.

1014
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1015
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1016
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