Rocky (1976) | A 50% Facts Review

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Welcome, Welcome to America. Welcome
to America. Hell yeah, we got

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Dean Sodoris back with us today for
the first time in a while. I

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know I missed you guys. Yeah, we missed you too. We just

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were not finding a bunch of stuff
that we wanted to watch. Was I

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think maybe the big problem? Yeah, people are everybody's baby. Yeah,

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when you sort of dug into the
bag here and came up with with Rocky.

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And there's a couple of reasons why
I wanted to do Rocky. This.

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This episode's going to go up around
the fourth of July. Okay,

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Yeah, what's more American than fucking
Well, I'm wondering. I was wondering

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why Rocky, But now I'm finding
out, Now, why not? That

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better question. That's a good question. Why why not? Rocky came out

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in seventy six. The time period
shown in the movie is late seventy five

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to early seventy six. Yeah,
by centennial seventy six, that was a

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whole big thing. Like, you
guys didn't live through it, but I

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sure did. We did. I
was a kid, and like the poster

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said, the bi centennial on the
Creeks poster, Yes, everything was bi

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Centennial it. I had completely forgotten
that part of it, but entirely explains

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the flag shorts. That Isn't there
a movie by Centennial Man, Yes there

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is, but that's not about the
Bison to robot the wide stripe. Yeah.

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Yeah, you ever seen Rocky?
Uh No, damn, we should

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have made you watch it. It's
full confession, Like I've never fucking watched

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Rocky ever start to finish like that, like the first one, So I

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don't think I've ever sat down start
to finish, but I've seen every inch

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of it. Yeah, because like
one, it was my one of my

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dad's favorite movies. Two, like
it's fucking iconic and it used to be

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on TNT all the time. Yeah, like it was just everywhere. But

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what I didn't know is how how
highly touted it was. I knew it

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was like kind of a thing,
and I thought it was like the America

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the Underground Story, Underdog Story,
which it is, which it is,

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but like movie wise, people loved
it. People loved its, which is

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crazy Oscar. Yeah, and like
just wild wild right, like the character

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building and stuff. When because when
I watch movies with y'all or for y'all

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for this podcast, I watch it
differently. Normally, Mike just wants to

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be entertained, and I rate it
on the ten dollars scale because movies are

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still ten bucks in my head.
Was that worth two hours and ten bucks

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in my time? All right?
Cool? But now when I'm doing a

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podcast I watch it. Yeah,
like the character like everything kind of sucks

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about it, you know, Like
it's like Rocky'll say something in one scene

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and I'm like, all right,
I'm gonna feel of who this guy is.

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And then he'll and then you'll come
out and like he's like an idiot,

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you know, and he's a bum, and he's self conscious and he's

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not proud of himself. You know, he's literally a thug for a living.

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And then you'll go to the next
scene and I'm like, oh,

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this guy's so charismatic, Like he's
so funny. He's risen the funk out

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of this pet store. You know, he's got Gabe the autistic pet store

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girl. Yeah, well he everyone
kept saying what she withdotted? You're going

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clearly on the spectrum. I think
she's shy, well, I think I

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think she's well. Then then you
talk about, oh, it's a disease

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you know they say when you're shy, it's a disease. That was just

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early phrases for saying, like on
the spectrum in the seventies. I felt

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like they both were and I never
noticed that before. Yeah, yeah,

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I mean we love on the spectrum
is what this movie was. It was

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when she freaks out on her brother, you feel like, yeah, little

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chism, yeah greatness, Yeah,
she got her blood was boiling. Yes,

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not being able to hear this is
just purely they say it. They

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say it in the movie. They
literally say, didn't she bedotted a lot?

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The only other thought before we go
on that I don't want to miss

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out on is is Philly all my
John's out there is Philly just always been

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the most ghetto place on the planet. It's a pretty rough neighborhood since its

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existence. It's kind of like you
know the Bronx right or New York yea,

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or maybe before like the genrification days
or whatever. But you know what

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I mean, Like every scene there, everything's ruined. People are starting fires

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in the trash can, singing,
drinking alcoholic. Well, clearly that shot

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of him walking in that like slum
area was literally they just like filmed that.

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Yeah, and because all those people
were like, what the hell's going

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on? So those weren't actors.
Yeah. Actually, if you look into

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the into the trivia, that's one
of the points that was all shot Gorilla.

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Every street scene where Rocky's running or
walking through or whatever, all that

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was shot Gorilla. They probably all
that it's three am too. It looked

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like probably so all the people that
are that you see on the sides and

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stuff, except for his brother in
that one scene, I assumed just because

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the budget, Ryesly was nobody.
That's the coolest part about Rocky to me

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is the real underdog story of Sylvester
right, like he's nobody. I forgot

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the story goes deep or I saw
like a little clip on it someone did

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a montage on Instagram, but like
did somebody die or he got divorced or

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he got arrested, like something crazy
happens and then he filled the role with

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him. No, No, he
wrote the whole thing. Yeah, oh

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okay, but he was he always
gonna play the right he was, But

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he said he wouldn't actually sell the
screenplay unless they would guarantee that he could

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star in the film. No,
they offered him three hundred thousand dollars for

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the screen and he said no,
I'll go do it, and he did

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it and end up making one hundred
and seventeen million. Yeah, in the

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seventies. Yeah, and the way
that it's cut together is very rough.

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No, the whole movie is insanely. It just like just shuts. It's

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a bad YouTube film, like there's
nothing going on, but there's just early

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filmmaking. I don't know well that
the director is like super well known director

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Avilson. I don't know. I
don't know why it looks the way it

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does, except that it looks very
indie. Yeah, it looks super cheap

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and like thirty thousand. I think
I read somewhere or something like that was

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a budget. It is insane.
And I watched the whole credits. This

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is another point before Jim o'realis in
and we'll get to some kind of timeline

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here. I watched the credits and
to watch the credits with only like five

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names is insane, Like each department's
one name. And I think that's partially

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the seventies and partially this movie showing
how low budget it was. Yeah,

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they had no employees. Where if
you can watch a Marvel film and you

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read the credits for it's thirty five
minutes, broll, there's one hundred people

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just under costumes. Yeah yeah,
and this had one person under every single

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category. What helps everybody wore the
same outfit the entire movie? Well,

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and it was their own clothes,
Yeah, for sure, literally, no,

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for sure. Absolutely, they just
didn't have the money for wardrobe.

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And so like that. Bring a
blue jacket and this black ink on it,

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the leather jacket that that Rocky wears. And the hat literally they got

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it at a he got it at
a thrift store with a little feather in

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it. Yeah, so good.
Why does everybody wear those hats? Is

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that a Philly thing? Time thing? I wore this hat today, this

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for the for the pot and the
Chucks. That is good hat, dude.

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I thought about the Chucks though.
I were the Chucks today, because

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you know, it's funny about the
shoes. I know, I'm getting totally

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out and I'm running away. I'm
running to you can tell that they the

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you know, when they redid the
Chucks, you can get those like the

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nicer Chucks. Those are supposed to
be more accurate to the old ones.

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Because you look at those Chucks he's
wearing like those things look padded and and

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comfy compared to these, like the
cheap ones that like a lot of power

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liters, like these ones aren't all
stars are Yeah, what's the other one

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called the nicer one? It's like
the ninety seven or the maybe sixty seven

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or whatever. You know, it's
like a cream or it might be the

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seventy six. It might be the
seventies. Yeah, I think that's what

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it is. Literally might be.
And they're like a cream and they're thicker,

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and they're like way more comfortable.
They think that was a more accurate

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like version. Anyways, I'm also
going to Philadelphia in a few weeks,

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so, yeah, I've not really
been, even though I was just talking

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about Buddy calling shut out Power Build
about taking a visit, uh to go

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see him, because I've never really
been there. I've been in the airport

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and then outside. But some of
the yeah, just every scene and obviously

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he's the underdog and he's poor fuck, but every scene the city looks so

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wrecked. And then now you obviously
hear about it because of fentanyl or whatever.

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Philly is just a just a shithole. But there's so many places like

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that, and I guess maybe it's
all of them. Maybe it is slightly

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stereotype because everyone makes one of South
Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland and it phillies

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at like grimy America Italian places And
in the in the seventies, New York

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City was like that too. Yeah
yeah, yeah. Not till the nineties,

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New York was like nice, right, yeah, yeah, so that

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kind of makes sense. Yeah,
it's just the old grimy Oh when the

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Italian hardcore patriot folk it was I
feel like it was like in that era

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though, like the inner city was
not a place of wealth. Sure there

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was no gentrification yet, yeah,
it was like it wasn't cool to live

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there yet. That was where where
you like kind of almost control the poor

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people. Yeah. Yeah, that
was like when suburbs became a thing right

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after World War everybody got out of
there. After World War two, people

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got some money and they started cruising
out further and further. Yeah. So

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now in the seventies, suburban life
is the thing that is the white pick

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of fence, the golden retriever and
you're ten miles There was not in the

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city. There was no like young
middle class living there. It was like

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the richest of the rich living in
the higher rises or whatever, in the

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in the townhouses or like whatever,
and then the ultrapore ye like Rocky.

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Yeah they read that, they did
show that. Well, yeah, that

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was the party. I was always
waiting for the mob boss guy to like

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turn on him. I was loyalty
baby, I get that, but like

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I was waiting for him to like
be like they almost set it up and

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made us think that he was going
to turn off. Yeah, that he

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was like friends with creator who knows
whether she's the fight or likes against them,

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yeah or exactly they like I felt
that energy the whole time, but

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that just never happened. I like
the mob mentality, loyalty there, giving

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them a little money for training,
and like even when to do exactly what

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he told him to do, he
just he just like warned him, lightly

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warned him, like, hey,
you know you have to you have to

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do what I tell you to do, break even if you don't want to

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do it. Yeah, yeah,
riding around in the Cadillac. But Rocky's

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logic was solid, Like if I
break his thumb, he's gonna get lat

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up from his job, and he's
never You're never going to get the rest

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of them. Yeah, Rocky's not
specially smart. Yeah, it's just how

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it's just smart. It's just his
delivery. Well, I thought if he

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had a broken finger, he couldn't
do no more walk and then he couldn't

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get the money to pay you.
The crazy thing is that his voice is

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not as fucked up as you think
it is gonna be. No, yeah,

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it progressively cut worse at his acting
voice. Yes, it like from

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film to film to film, for
sure got got worse. The other the

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other thought I have is Rocky one
yet it's so slow. There's like no

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plot, you don't really know what's
going on. You generalize how slow.

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I thought it was way more boxing. There's literally boxing at the very beginning

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and the very end, all right
exactly. But when you do get to

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the montage like fire the fast paced
montage. Yeah, when he's like when

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he's like in shape, the gunn
of flying out montage. Yeah, they're

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running down the street, grabbing an
apple from the dude on the side,

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and the punch in the meats,
that's fire like. I don't know if

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that's the first montage, and I
don't know if it's the first one,

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but it's probably one of the most
impactful, right, because it like it

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sort of changed. I mean a
thing about this movie is it changed the

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whole Cinderella story template. Yeah,
I think elevated sports movies as a whole.

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Like obviously there's some before that.
There's a couple of baseball and maybe

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even uh the Indiana basketball one.
You know, there's a couple of sports

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movies, but this is like sports
movie eras here. Yeah, this one's

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earlier than I think all those other
ones. Yeah, it might be,

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it might be. It might be
one of the first ever in boxing boxing

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big boxing movies were big though,
like Raging Bowl, like those were already

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like The Bulls after Raging Bulls After. Yeah, Ye wasn't it black and

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white? Yeah? It was black
and white potentionally on purpose. Yeah,

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I don't know the air I didn't
know that. Yeah, because this is

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I mean seventy six right, yeah, he's thirty, Yeah slides thirty,

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Rockies thirty. Yeah, obviously film
forms. It looked really good on Amazon

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Prime. Maybe that's why I was
like, yeah, it did not look

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like antypical like seventy six movie because
I watched on Obviously it's been writ enhanced.

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Yeah, it looked like pretty good. No, it looked good.

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Yeah, it's slow as shit.
You don't get the plot until kind of

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Creed says, yeah, I want
to fight like an All American underdog,

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and then you're like, all right, I get the plot, but there's

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still no plot. Yeah. The
other thought I've had was the movies I

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do think progressively get better if you've
watched the others, and I haven't watched

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them with this detail of my brain. But they get a little bit faster,

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a little bit more plot. There's
a couple more twists once you get

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into two, three, four,
five. Yeah, they get more visual

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as they have more. The montages
are more. There's obviously a ton more

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money. Yeah, but I assume
that Rocky wrote this, sly wrote this

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just for one and then let's look
at it just as one. That ending

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does feel very hipster Indie win an
award. It does. And the weird

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thing is that you don't watch this
is like, if you haven't want to

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watch I, go watch Rocky.
Stop now, go watch Rocky come back

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and listen to the rest of this. You the ending is ambiguous right now,

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he technically loses, and you kind
of know, but you don't know,

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Yeah, they don't tell you.
That's how they cut it off before

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they raise. Yeah, you know
we know it's a split decision. Yeah,

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and you know because of the hug, Creed kind of knows you one,

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like I'm not giving he says,
I'm not giving you a remember,

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so you kind of know, which, of course was what Rocky too has

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been, right. And I do
remember watching this as like a kid kid,

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I must have been eight or something
because I kind of looked at my

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dad because that's same thing. I'm
like, he'd lost, Like, Dad,

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what happened? He's like, yeah, he lost. He's like he

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wins later, but he lost.
Said, what the fuck? Kind of

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movie? You know, I'm eight, but what Adrian and he fell in

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love and he took him. He
took him the distance, which was his

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goal, which is kind of an
underdog loser goal in my opinion, right

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because he started to get in shape
and you think, you think he's gonna

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build it up, and he's like, I'm gonna go whoop his ass.

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He said, I'm just gonna last. Yeah, that's that's his like that's

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the turning point, like I'm just
gonna survive. He didn't get so far

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out over his skis. No,
he knocked him down because I read the

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only person ever knocked him down.
Yeah, and the only one to last.

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I did read the whole credits.
He choreographed every fight scene just him.

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The crazy thing is, yeah,
they had a they had a crew,

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they had a fight choreography crew,
and it was what they came up

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with was full and the director is
like, this fucking sucks. You guys

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are fired. Somebody needs to solve
this problem. And Stallone wrote thirty two

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or thirty five pages of exactly what
happens on screen in the fights. That's

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crazy. The only part that looked
kind of silly was when they were like

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it was him and Creed at the
end, when they were like kind of

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like balling up. Yeah, Like, yeah, all the fighting in hindsight,

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if you've seen New Ship, the
fighting is Corny's fake fighting. Though.

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Yeah, it like you think of
like the New Roadhouse movie. Yeah,

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I haven't seen it like this.
There was like literally cgi fight scenes

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in that too, Like did you
watch that? You guys know that you

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guys watched the New House. I've
seen that might be a good episode.

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I see the old one and I
was just like I don't know if I

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can the new one. This one's
got a lot to talk, a lot

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on wrap on this one. Maybe
we'll uh you know, but a bookmark

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that McGregor's jacked in it. That's
enough to watch it. Fighting scenes are

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hard, but this one, like
you can see the fist is three feet

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away in a couple punches. Yeah, where I don't know if it's one

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of the other Rockies. I can't
think of what film, but I've seen

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interviews where the guy's like, no, you have to hit me, Like

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I think it is right. Yeah, Yeah, that was the deal with

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with the with the first Rocky,
and they have done it all the way

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through the Creed movies where you have
to as an actor you have to take

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one shot. Yeah, he wants
to get run real shot. Well,

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didn't like what's his name, Michael
B. Jordan, didn't he like take

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that one shot and like I actually
got knocked out, don't doubt it clip

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going around in the first movie.
Yeah, And obviously times have changed,

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but the fight scenes in the Creeds
are insane. They're really good. And

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obviously the camera angles like everything's mastery
faster now it's faster, and they got

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the facts like it's the mastery is
there? But uh and again this might

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be, for all we know,
the first sports movie in history, you

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know, like it's not, but
it is. Yeah, Like I don't

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know, like Bad News Bears maybe
before this and some of those. Maybe

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that might be eighties too, lots
in the eighties. Okay, So this

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is the only Rocky movie without slow
mo in the in the fight scene.

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It is one of the first three
movies to use a steady cam. Steady

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caam had just been invented, and
and so those the scenes of him like

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going through you know, running through
the city and all that kind of stuff

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those are and going up the steps, that's all. That's all steadycam stuff.

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So when weren't done on like cranes? Uh huh were those those weren't

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like crane shots or no, there
there were handheld steady cam. Yeah.

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Another dumb thing that I realized was, uh, and the training montage is

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so good, but he grabs some
bricks. Oh yeah, he's running with

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him like waits Yeah, he's running
like running school and then he's throwing a

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couple of punches. But then he
starts doing some cheerleader ship. He's running

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down the street and he's throwing his
fists just in the like parandom. I'm

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like, dude, he's just like
totally making it up. Like he's clearly

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not a boxer. Yeah, he's
like the bow Sue ball guy with that

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guy's name. Yeah, he's going
wild with these bricks down the streets.

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So the fuck. So he,
I guess maybe had some sense of boxing

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before before this to right and he
and obviously Apollo Creed is based on Muhammad

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Ali. Yeah, yeah, and
it's the thing was inspired by a fight

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where Ali fought a non ranks contender
and shit happened. Yeahli was still fighting

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in seventy six. Yeah. But
the crazy thing is like the Apollo Creed

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character is barely a character in this
movie. Yeah, he grows through the

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series, yeah, but he's just
barely in it. And there's he does

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a lot of goofy ship yeah,
like, and Carl Weathers had no background

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in boxing at all. They had
to they had to coach him up to

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be able to get the scenes they
got. He looks athletic though, you

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know, yeah, no, he
looks he's jacked and Ship talks funny,

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you know, he's Joe Frazier and
all that I loved his like little like,

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uh, the one guy that was
actually like paying attention, you know,

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he's one of his goons that was
like, hey, you know,

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we gotta take another look at this
guy. And the ball himself was getting

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ignored. I don't want you fight
in the South. No, it's fine.

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This is our guy by the name. The video funny, Oh man,

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we got to prepare for this guy
watching him hit the meat on the

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news station. Apparently, uh stallone
like flattened his knuckles out from and they're

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still he still has that issue from
the meat from pounding the meat. He

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was really hitting the meat. I
thought it was he's beating his meat.

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He's beating the meat. He's beating
somebody's meat. He throws a hook into

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the ribs, not the meat part
like in the on the news. I'm

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like, that's not. What's so
funny about that whole thing too, is

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like they could do that whole news
scene right after he did that like one

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time out of like rage so he
didn't hurt his friend. Yeah, and

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then like the news came is like
your new training method. I guess like

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I set that up and that that
was part of that. I guess yeah,

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it's like, wait, there's something
here we can use and he was

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like so ready to do it.
Though Pauli's a weird character, probably is

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their worst character of practically any character
that sustains through any movie I've ever fucking

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I think he gets better. But
here's been a good friend. Yeah,

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and here he's in real life you
now, yeah, because in the movie

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it's like it's literally the friend you
don't want. Yeah, exactly, it's

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Rocky's only friend and you don't want
to have him. But in the movie

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does get a little bit more encouraging, at least my memory in two,

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three, and four, like he
becomes a little bit more like he lives

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in their fucking house by four or
five or whatever. He's got a robot,

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for Heaven's sake, So I mean
I love that. Yeah, he's

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driving like a Rari in the driveway. He's got a robot bro that serves

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you. And this is in the
eighties. Now, yeah, thank god

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he's dead by the time the Creed
movies coming around. The first Creed movie

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is probably the has the best fight
scene, the fighting at the end in

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any boxing movie ever. The Creeds
are actually kind of good in my opinion,

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like they're not the best movies ever, but if you like, if

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you like kind of boxing and you
like Rocky Lore, I guess yeah,

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like they're definitely watchable. We were
like a clan like people like didn't really

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complain about him, no like this
like, oh why did they do this?

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No? I felt they were very
neutral and I thought they might should

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have got a little bit more love. But I guess you're right. I

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think your first one got pretty good. The first one did a little bit,

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the second one was okay, third
one was in Yeah, it was

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very fine, but the seconde almost
came out like too late. People like

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already didn't care. Yeah, I
think maybe might installed it. It was

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in that era. But to revamp
something from the seventies and you're right,

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not get a negative. Yeah,
it's kind of a win, and it's

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basically the same movie. It's just
better executed, right, Right, They

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almost identically on purpose? Yes,
Like Rocky Full five is the one where

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he has a protege. Right four
is Russia five where he has a protege.

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Yeah, and then there's and Creed
three. Yeah, it's his best

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friend coming back from prison. It's
kind of the same deal, right,

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like there's a Creed three. Yeah, three is right by Michael B.

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Jordan's it's I do agree with Jim. I think one and two Creed are

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better, but three is really not
bad. Like it's definitely watchable and you're

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not going to like go like they
doesn't make any less sense than what goes

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on in the first Rocky right,
and and the ties are kind of good.

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Like his wife's character is much better. Yeah, there's like a real

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story there in Creed. His mom's
involved, and they tie in Creed or

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Apollo dying and the Thompson's a better
actress than Yeah, Italia shyer to por

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Talia and hersm just avoid all eye
contact at all times. Yeah, I

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think his response is funny. And
I am on a steam that he's like,

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she just shy. I think she
is just shy. The thing about

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I mean, like watching the trajectory
of the characters in this in this thing,

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I don't understand what the fuck happened
to hers like this, the moment

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she took her glasses off, she
never put them back on, and she

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became a babe, she grew up. Yeah, it's like, oh,

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so you just don't need them to
see Yeah, exact contact exactly. I

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don't think that was the thing.
Yeah, I don't, I don't.

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I don't see the scene where she
got contacts. I don't know she got

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the scene where she got a better
haircut, No, that happened. No,

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I think it was the silent transformation
and confidence growth prove that she doesn't

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have the tism and she's not shy
no more. She's Francis Francis for a

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copeleas sister. Oh really. And
the reason that she took this movie was

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she wanted to get out of his
shadow. Okay, so she wanted to

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do something very different. So that's
why she looks so shitty at the beginning

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of this, But toward the end
she's just like, oh, cute girl,

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A cute girl. Yeah, she's
not ugly, and then by you

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know, by rocky five, she's
you know, she's one of the house

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whatever housewives of you know. Well, that's what they say. They say,

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you're not born ugly, you're born
broke. If you're ugly, it's

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because you're broke. Yeah yeah,
yeah, like the just Broke or the

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Elon even Elon Elon twenty years ago. You're like, dude, you look

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like gollam and not that he's handsome
now, but at least he looks normal.

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Yeah, handsome shit fixed for sure. Yeah money dude. Alia also

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like, are we just gonna ignore
the fact that he like kind of like

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almost rape for Yeah. Yeah,
Like, dude, like it gets weird

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even inviting her in the house.
She the pressure. She says no.

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She says no like five times,
and he keeps peeking his head like come

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on in, and then locks the
door. Yes, in the corners,

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and then corners her the corners a
little much. He doesn't let her like

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leave, yes, and then she
almost like goes along. It almost feels

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like she almost goes along with it
so she doesn't get hurt. Yeah.

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Yeah, well that's what it looked
like. I had no sense at all

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that she was attracted him at all, no period, Like maybe she was

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like shy. Yeah, she's either
shy or she's saying I'm gonna settle because

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I really don't know any other offers
on the table at the moment. I'm

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gonna go to this house. Yeah. Well, yeah, she clearly needed

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to get out of Polly's house.
Do you need a roommate? Yeah,

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she she should have left the gas
on and thrown a lighter behind her when

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she left. That would have been
get rid of Polly. The part where

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she's trying to she can't throw me
no more. Yeah what, I don't

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know what the fuck was going on
with the dialogue. Yeah, he wants

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to be any sense at all.
He wanted he wanted to wanted to mark

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for the mob so bad. And
it's like, you can't work for the

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mob. He's got a fucking big
mouth manager. He'll just kill you.

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The Riz continues for me where you
think of Rocky as yeah, kind of

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dumb, kind of slow, all
these good is for breaking hands kind of

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deal. And then she's like,
well, I got to call my brother,

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let him know where he is.
And he just opens the window and

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screams out of it, like dude, this dude's hilarious. Like Rocky's the

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funniest comedian. Like if you did
that in real life, Like I feel

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like that's something I could I would
actually do. You know, Like this

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is just like a dumb kind of
almost dad joke but almost witty. Yeah

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yeah yeah, And you're like,
oh, Rocky's funny, dude, he

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ain't slow, but why does he
have to have so many knives stuck into

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00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.559
everything around his house like that a
red flag or like the darts are He's

406
00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:48.559
just slamming him at a wall,
like a picture. There's a picture there.

407
00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:52.319
He drew something. There was like
some kind of drawing there. There's

408
00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.319
a lot of back no no doors, Why is there a Why is there

409
00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:02.000
a mattress propped up with a buck
knife stabbed into its angry? I didn't

410
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:04.759
even notice that other ship like that
everywhere all the pictures and signage in his

411
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.839
house. Yeah, there's like World
War two knives like stuck in the pictures

412
00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:15.839
and the on his little like uh
uh shrine family shrine. Yeah, if

413
00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:18.880
you got all the red flags of
being of complete psycho. Yeah, so

414
00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:22.480
those are the things I've never watched
the movie for right because I'm just like,

415
00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:23.160
oh, I'm just trying to see
the montage. But then when I

416
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:26.599
watch it for the podcast, I
started looking around. You're like, yeah,

417
00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:29.039
this's fucking weird. But it's like, yeah, no wonder she would

418
00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:30.480
just like win along with it,
and there she didn't want to die.

419
00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:37.240
She's looking around at at darts everywhere, knives everywhere, ripped mattresses and just

420
00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:41.960
mess and alcohol and you're just like, I'm going to get hurt if I

421
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:44.599
don't go along with whatever this guy
says, Yeah, for sure, but

422
00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:47.720
she's actually was put out. But
three weeks later she's in love, and

423
00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:51.200
then they're in love. She's freaking
out. Yeah, And at the end

424
00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:52.920
of the day, he was harmless. He's just kind of a what's the

425
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:56.640
word idiot? Uh, He's just
kind of you know, he's just a

426
00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:02.720
little different. Different the other character
which becomes even more likable, I think

427
00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:07.240
in time, which is a little
questionable in the beginning, is Mick that

428
00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:11.119
was actually coming to that what the
what is mixed value added? Other than

429
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:15.240
the fact that he owns the gym, I didn't see almost anything that he

430
00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:19.920
had to say to Rocky that like
somebody off the street couldn't have said to

431
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.880
Rocky. Yeah they they And he's
such an asshole and such an opportunist,

432
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:29.440
like he's only interested in Rocky once
Rocky has a shot at the at the

433
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:32.480
at the at the title, I
think, I mean, there is a

434
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:36.599
line where he sounds like he says
Rocky was lazy in his twenties when he

435
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:37.720
first showed up, and that's why
he didn't give him a chance or give

436
00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:41.920
him attention because he could have been
good but wasn't training hard. But it's

437
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:51.279
a very uh like bolt on layer
of Rocky being an underdog. Yeah,

438
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:52.720
and it's just a bolt on,
like, oh, here's another piece to

439
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.519
show, here's a one liner to
show. Mick also thinks you're a loser.

440
00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:03.599
Right, But do you you get
the sense from from watching Rocky at

441
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:07.880
the beginning that he is sandbagging anyway, Like it feels more like Mick is

442
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:12.119
against the fact that he was working
for the Mob exactly. Maybe that yeah,

443
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:15.359
which which is kind of like a
thing, right, like if I'm

444
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:18.519
coaching, it is just so loosely
put together as the issue because like that

445
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:22.680
story makes sense, Like if I
have a young protege and he's out fucking

446
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.200
around dealing weed, yeah, I'm
gonna say, hey, screwball, you

447
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:27.759
know. So it's maybe one of
those because he's working with the Mob.

448
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:34.799
But they don't show any Rocky boxing
obviously the first fight, and they display

449
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:37.400
how tough he is, but that's
all you really gather from that, that

450
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.240
he's a tough and a little bit
of a hothead. Maybe comes back to

451
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:42.960
your knives in the mattress, right, like he's not fighting that hard.

452
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:47.559
He gets rocked and now he's pissed
and goes crazy. Yeah, but they

453
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:52.000
don't show any of his life as
an athlete, so you don't know.

454
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:55.440
We get him like twenty years in
the game, Yeah yeah, and all

455
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:56.920
you see is the mob life.
You don't see if he's hard working.

456
00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:00.480
You don't see his other all you
know that he's trying to make a bug.

457
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:02.160
He's like, give me another fuck. It actually looks like he is

458
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.559
hardworking. It does hustling ends.
He's like hustling on all ends. But

459
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.599
they just don't show training. Yeah, you know, they just don't show

460
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:10.680
some of that, so you don't
really know. And it was kind of

461
00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:14.359
out of shape right when they first
start the workout montage. Yeah for sure,

462
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:15.799
he were struggling to even get up
the stairs. And then the next

463
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:19.079
time he's like fucking sprinting up the
stairs and even says like when these ice

464
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.720
skinning, he's like, I'm not
a good athlete. At one point,

465
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:27.200
he just like slides on his shoes
and yells, WHOA. You're just like

466
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:30.480
what that's That's what I mean by
like a split personality, Like you just

467
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.519
don't know what you're getting Oh.
Then like when he flashes on Mick and

468
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.119
then five seconds later runs down,
it's like, hey, bro, we're

469
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:38.480
all good. Yeah, well that's
the conversation that we do not hear.

470
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.400
That's the crazy thing. We see
them shake it out. Yeah yeah,

471
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:45.720
Mick's kind of like scared, like
he's gonna get hit. I mean you

472
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:49.440
get the sense maybe he felt sorry
for Mick after Mick walked away, after

473
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:52.160
he like after they got it out, Yeah, yeah, after the anger

474
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:56.079
part were a past, and then
he was like, oh yeah, you

475
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.000
know, actually like I don't know
anybody else who could help me. Mick

476
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:02.079
does get a little bit anybody at
all. Ever, so he gets a

477
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:06.319
little bit more personality and involved in
the other movies for sure, because he

478
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:10.640
wasn't even in this movie. Mick. Yeah, like twice he's two lines

479
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:14.319
and then he's telling him to stay
down. That's it. That's it.

480
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:18.839
He's watching them do push ups,
not saying a word, right, Yeah.

481
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.519
Yeah. The first scene we get
when he goes and talks to him,

482
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:25.240
he's like, when the Kicks is
out of the locker, that was

483
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:27.480
it. Yeah. Yeah, that's
just another like slight sign to show that

484
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:32.559
he's over the hill. Or over
it put me on row. Yeah,

485
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:37.720
they call the pegs. Yeah,
exactly. Your ship could get stolen there,

486
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.640
I mean yeah, right, yeah, secure, you can just take

487
00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:45.000
the fire extinguam sure off and steal
people ship anyways, exactly like he did.

488
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.720
That was great, And I think
i's the guy takes the locker over

489
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.640
just talking ship to hiea like your
locker fuck you. He already had all

490
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:57.359
the like pictures in there women.
Yeah, it's like his whole porn collection

491
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:02.559
sitting in there. Uh. Back
to budget, it's crazy, dude.

492
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:07.240
IMDb says this, this movie costs
nine hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars nine

493
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.640
hundred thousand, nine hundred and sixty
thousand, seventy six. That's like,

494
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:14.640
what now three mil? And that's
I'm sure that's all in. That's like

495
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:18.079
emotional budget. I do know.
MGM ended up signing it right, like

496
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:21.079
it's an MGM movie. So they
obviously were the Kings of the time.

497
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:25.880
I mean they're still huge, grossed
one hundred and seventeen million worldwide. Yeah,

498
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:29.039
nine hundred. I read an article
I read an art off at Flip

499
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.039
article that said three hundred K was
what he was offered for the film,

500
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:34.279
and that's equivalent to a million.
Now, so let's say a third,

501
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.880
so three If it made one hundred
and seventeen, yeah, it's worth it

502
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.839
made three hundred and fifty mil.
And if it cost nine hundred k,

503
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.720
yeah, maybe cost three mil.
Yeah, which pretty good. Three mil

504
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.079
to three hundred mil. Damn,
that's crazy. It does still kind of

505
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.480
blow my mind, and I've never
understood it, I guess because maybe I

506
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:53.440
didn't go to film school and maybe
I'm an idiot. I've never really understood.

507
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:57.319
Some movies are so good and never
went an award or even get talked

508
00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:02.200
about, but they're so entertaining,
or there's you know, cool twists are

509
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:03.839
shot so well and they don't even
get mentioned. And then some movies I

510
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.559
feel that are like very bland,
but there's some like hipster artistry. Maybe

511
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.559
I don't understand they win all these
awards, you know, and this is

512
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.519
kind of one of those. Like
I like the movie a lot, I

513
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.400
really do, and I like the
whole franchise. I was raised on it

514
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:19.279
and so like, I have the
nostalgia part of it, and even as

515
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:22.319
an athlete, I like it,
you know, even though it's slow.

516
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.839
There's like a. You know,
the underdog story is cool. All sports

517
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:29.920
movies are based on underdogs. Remember
The Titans is probably one of my top

518
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.119
five movies in the history of my
life. That it's hard to be and

519
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.559
that's obviously got the the the you
know, the the social aspect to it.

520
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.480
That the racist and that and sports
and the underdog all mixed into one.

521
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.440
Based on true story obviously, but
uh yeah, I don't know if

522
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:52.079
I see the like the Oscar in
this You're shot like an Oscar winning movie.

523
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.759
Think about the other movies I came
out at that one Oscar and even

524
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:57.519
in that era, like when was
the first Godfather come out? Yes?

525
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:01.519
Similar probably for maybe like that makes
sense, yeah, right, like the

526
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.440
way that even the transitions from scene
to scene, you know, what's going

527
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:08.440
on at all times? Is it
Hitchcock in this era sixty seven Orobaly yeah,

528
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.039
fifty sixty seven. Yeah, And
those movies are crazy. I don't

529
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.200
like them. But I might have
told the story once when we were the

530
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.839
camera work right, it's inventing camera
no effects, right, And maybe that's

531
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.200
why Rocky got it because he used
the steady cam for the first time.

532
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:23.559
River or some shit. You know, maybe it's part of that. But

533
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:27.960
I remember in summers because my mom
was a teacher, she had off and

534
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:29.960
so she's trying to find things to
do with us as we're a kid,

535
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:31.920
right, And my sister for some
reason was really into Alfred Hitchcock, and

536
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:36.680
so like we do a whole summers
where we just go to Blockbuster and like

537
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.640
watch themes together because it's one hundred
degrees and I can only play so much

538
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:44.160
basketball and so we're watching. We
watched I've watched like every Alfred Hitchcock movie

539
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:45.839
ever, and though I hated it
because I'm ten years old. Yeah,

540
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:49.839
but even hindsight of that, yeah, they're just so much better movies.

541
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.359
Yeah, actually than Rocky or I
could at least understand why they win awards.

542
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:57.200
Yeah, yeah, even though I
personally enjoy Rocky more. Yeah.

543
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:05.319
So looking at what Avilson did a
round this time, and then after what

544
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:07.079
else did he do it? Slow
dancing in the Big Cities. I've never

545
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:12.480
heard of a Night in Heaven in
nineteen eighty three. Uh oh, he

546
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:16.319
thoughts editors, I don't know where's
the director when there we go? Or

547
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:24.480
Homeboys in that era? Dude who
shot the moon landing Cubrick Stanley, Interstellar

548
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:30.079
and all that ship. Yeah understand, say, what's the one with the

549
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:36.079
masks, the scary one, the
Illuminati, Illuminati Party, closed Eyes,

550
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:40.559
Eyes Wide Tom Cruise though, maybe, but that's yeah, maybe that's eighties,

551
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:44.519
but that's still Kubrick, right,
Yeah, and those are shot like

552
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:46.240
same thing. Not my style of
movie, but I understand if that win

553
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:50.279
awards. Full Metal Jacket, Yeah, Full Metal Jacket is the only the

554
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:52.440
only Kubrick movie that I really like. So he's such a good one.

555
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:58.279
Yeah, that's so good. So
he directed Save the Tiger w W in

556
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.079
the in the Dixie Dance Dance Kings
was like right before this, also was

557
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:06.160
four Play, then Rocky Slow Dancing
in the Big City, the formula.

558
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:13.719
I don't know if you ever saw
that one Neighbors, the John Belushi film.

559
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:16.320
I think it's John Belushi and Dan
Ackroyd as neighbors. It's probably warring

560
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:22.920
neighbors. It's probably which is another
template kind of movie. Yeah, traveling

561
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:25.320
hopefully. I've never heard of Night
in Heaven is a is a dance movie.

562
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.360
Uh. And then in nineteen excuse
me, in nineteen eighty four he

563
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:36.480
did Karate Kid and then eighty six, Karate Kid Part two. They are

564
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:39.239
I mean underdog movies. Karate Kidd
is the same movie as Rocky for the

565
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:44.519
most part. Yeah, just with
a kid and a slightly more charismatic leader

566
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:49.119
than Mick. He did lean on
me. He did Karate Kid Part two.

567
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:53.039
Rocky five. That's the Drago Now
I thought that's four, and which

568
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:57.920
was Drago? I think for's Drago
five? Is the kid was? The

569
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:01.400
kid's name with the blonde hair is
Minty. Yeah, I think that after

570
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:05.800
they ended up dying of aides.
Oh I did not let me make sure

571
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:09.440
I'm right though, because I always
get those mixed up. Yeah. Yeah,

572
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:14.639
that's a tough little kid. What's
Rocky three? Then, mister T,

573
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.960
mister T, he's Rocky three.
That's five. That kid comes as

574
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:22.719
his mentor and then challenges him.
He's a jack little fuck though. Yeah,

575
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:24.000
I forgot his name. He has
a funny name too. He does

576
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:31.639
have a funny name. It should
say mister Tommy Gunn, young boxer Tommy

577
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:36.760
Gunn. Right, that's good,
that's good Tommy. But I think that's

578
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.239
his real name, Tommy Gunn,
his actor name, at least the name

579
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:44.920
he changed to. That's so good. Oh Tommy Morrison. Ohile also trying

580
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:46.280
to mend to shake your relationship with
his own son. Yea, his son

581
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:51.880
starts to become a role in this
sage. Stallone is real son, who's

582
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:53.480
his real son, who doesn't ever
play his real son? So Tommy Morrison

583
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:58.440
is the real guy. Was Tommy
Morrison a real boxer? Oh sounds familiar?

584
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:01.360
Yeah? Yeah, explaining like why
he so jacked? Not there,

585
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:07.159
but yeah, this is older to
plant. I don't know. Those do

586
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:12.360
look kind of crazy. He might
be on a little sauce. Actually,

587
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.320
I'm sure I boxing a little part
of that regiment. I think he's drinking

588
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.719
some kind of sauce. Yeah,
but as a kid, he looks fucking

589
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:22.280
crazy. Oh yeah, he looks
sick. Yeah yeah, that's like a

590
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:28.320
natty built these days. Yeah,
that's another important point. This is stallone

591
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.639
before steroids, way before what what
do you think Rocky three? We might

592
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:34.559
have to watch them all. I
think Rocky three starts a crazy jack because

593
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:37.719
that's like starting after Rambo and Ship. Yeah, because Rambo probably started his

594
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:43.440
oh yeah, his drug addictions yet
first, but he's jacked in first play,

595
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:45.760
and that's probably around Rocky three and
Ship I never saw any of the

596
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:47.880
Rocky movies in the theater. I
don't think. I mean, he's gonna

597
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:52.039
be worth like five hundred million,
right, probably he's probably crushing right,

598
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:57.280
like I thin think about all the
iconic ship Yeah, all these are crazy

599
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:00.719
inaccurate, but will be an idea. I did see First Blood in theater

600
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:06.039
really, Yeah, I wouldn't mind. Like I watched the first of the

601
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.960
new ones. Yeah, I can't
remember where they were. It looked like

602
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:14.639
maybe Vietnam. He goes back,
Yeah, when they started redoing him again,

603
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:16.960
like in the late two thousands.
Yeah, I never saw that either.

604
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:20.760
They do say about five hundred mili, you're right, but who knows

605
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.440
how. I feel like he's just
more because he's making like fifty mili movie.

606
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:28.079
Think about the fucking checks that are
coming in for every time TNT plays

607
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:31.440
Rocky and he probably owns full rights. Yeah, I think I don't know

608
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:36.400
does he have his rights to the
Rocky character? I wonder if I wonder

609
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:39.920
what relationship he has from like royalties
or whatever. For the Creed movies.

610
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:45.320
I know we produced one, he's
in one, but I think he'll produce

611
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:47.159
his in two. Yeah, he's
in one and two, but he's not

612
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:51.079
in three. Yeah, I just
assume those checks are fat. They just

613
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.800
they basically wrote him out of three
because he it wasn't the movie he wanted

614
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:57.599
them to do. He wanted to
like get in and write the script again.

615
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:01.679
And they're like, No. One
and two is John Singleton, Right?

616
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:05.199
Yeah? I think so. Yeah, like Boys in the Hood,

617
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:10.719
No Boys in the Hood, Fruitvale
Station. Yeah, it doesn't really the

618
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.440
storyline. Yeah, it's a new
gen the culture. They did try to

619
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:19.079
switch the culture up, which is
modern day boxing. Yeah, they went

620
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.280
into the culture of modern day boxing
with the kind of the Mike Tyson vibe.

621
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:24.599
Yeah, that era of nineties boxing
did become a little bit different,

622
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:30.119
and they I think they hit it
pretty good. Yeah. I mean he's

623
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:31.639
you know, he's Italian, but
he's kind of just a white guy,

624
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:35.920
right, Like if you look at
boxing right now, you're looking at mostly

625
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:39.159
a Hispanic and African American, Like
are the kind of like what are the

626
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:42.960
guys that are fighting the most besides
the fury? But even in some like

627
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.119
white Italian guy telling that story.
Yeah, even even towards the end of

628
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.480
Rockies, they do switch the vibe
a little a little bit, right,

629
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:51.639
like he's got the robot, he's
got the Rariri. He's all dressed nice,

630
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:55.519
his hair is fucking safe. The
robot really so good. It's literally

631
00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:00.119
like a servant robot. Of course
that's good. Who wrote that? And

632
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:01.599
then it goes out and yeah,
it's like the white pick of fence manchain.

633
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:05.440
He's got a Rari in the red
Rari in the driveway. He's a

634
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:07.159
prize fighter. Yeah, that's the
thing. They showed that he's made it

635
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:10.920
now, you know. That's the
thing about Creed three, Like he has

636
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:17.559
a ridiculous amount of wealth. It's
it's it's like strange credulity. How how

637
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:22.559
boxing's like that though, Like those
guys are rich. That makes stupid money

638
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:24.760
they make anything, like yeah,
it's like Goano I think made like a

639
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:28.719
hundred mil on that fight. Yeah
he did. Yeah, Like it's actually

640
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:32.559
stupid. Even like the last like
kind of fight was one hundred mili plus.

641
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:35.440
Yeah, and that's like that's every
fight for him. Yeah, if

642
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.920
you're a mid level guy. You're
not mid you got to be near the

643
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:39.360
top. But you're making twenty MILLI
fight, Yeah, just a fight,

644
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:43.559
let alone win knockout. Now you're
at one hundred and fifty milis so now

645
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:45.960
they do pay a ton of people. True, but yeah, and there's

646
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:51.119
way more boxers because this argument comes
up a lot with UFC. There's just

647
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.840
way more boxers. If you take
what you qualify as a pro boxer,

648
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:59.280
right, there's probably one hundred thousand
of them yea worldwide. So yeah,

649
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:02.800
it's still the top five percent are
making all the money. There's pro boxers

650
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:08.400
fighting for two thousand dollars or the
UFC there's not you know, there's only

651
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:13.199
a certain amount. Has anybody ever
made a hundred or like what is that?

652
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:16.880
How many figures is that? Nine? Yeah? Or whatever? Nine

653
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:22.360
figures new in UFC? I don't
probably McGregor hiss through his career, but

654
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:23.920
yeah, one fight, No,
he is big as probably like ten mil

655
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:27.000
or something making that up, but
yeah, it's much. So it's like,

656
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.159
how is that even possible? Because
we know that way more people are

657
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.559
watching UFC three hundred then can help? Maybe not? Maybe not. I

658
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:35.599
don't know what I'm talking about.
I don't know the pay per view numbers

659
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:37.400
because they're probably skewed like everything else
right there, we're gonna lie to make

660
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:42.440
it look good. I think the
argument comes with the U. The fighters

661
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.679
need the UFC more than the UFC
needs the fighter because they can build celebrities,

662
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:49.639
which they've proven. They prove the
right. The Max Holloway is the

663
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.400
celebrity now the Sugar Sugar shown right. They build celebrities everywhere and they have

664
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.920
historically BJ Penns and the Chuck Ladals
like they're really good at that. Where

665
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:00.599
boxing it is on you and your
team. Yeah, and they mentioned that

666
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.719
in this movie, right, Creeds
has his promoter, Like there's the promoter

667
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:07.719
position, which Dana White you could
argue is the best in the history of

668
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.079
the world. Yeah. Right,
So you're gonna go want to go fight

669
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:14.719
for him for less and there's just
not the other leagues. You're getting paid

670
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:16.119
less, you know, it's just
not the show. Yeah. Is this

671
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:20.320
fair? I don't know, but
he's kind of keeping by him keeping his

672
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:24.719
prices where they are. It's also
keeping all the people behind him even lower,

673
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:29.159
right unless yeah, because they I
mean we joked about it in another

674
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:32.199
podcast, but the amount of sponsors
on a UFC now is insane. There's

675
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:36.639
like thirty six sponsors just on the
octagon. Yeah, And I said that,

676
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:38.119
and then I watched three h two
when I was counting, and there's

677
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:45.000
literally like four per quarter per octie, you know, there's like one,

678
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.480
two, three, and then two
on the sidebars, like they're literally a

679
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:52.119
poster board of advertising that are each
paying who knows how many million to get

680
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:57.360
there. Yeah. Yeah, that
whole UFC thing versus boxing is interesting to

681
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.639
me. It's like, yeah,
I don't know who's Like you would assume

682
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:06.719
that more people watch Chandler and McGregor
right over Canelo and whoever else for sure,

683
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:10.639
But I guess international twenty times the
money. International might not be like

684
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:16.480
UFC still might be very like American
Brazilian where like, yeah, Latin America's

685
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:21.840
probably all on the boxing. Europe
that Europe's try all in the boxing.

686
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.320
Asia maybe a mix because they had
Pride and they have what is it now?

687
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:29.920
I watched that they kind of have
their own Pride League one. I

688
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.440
think it's Quit one. One does
everything that wants j jitsu, which I

689
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:36.280
think is smart. It's fun to
watch because it will be like three MMA

690
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:39.000
fights, one grappling match, which
UFC is doing now too right. They're

691
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:43.480
doing them separate, but they're doing
all these high level grappling matches and paying

692
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:45.360
those guys more money than they've ever
made if they don't have a bitch slap

693
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:49.760
League. Uh, they got the
bitch slap League and they have the one

694
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.559
that you're right had just fought in. Is it combat jiu jitsu? I

695
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:55.159
think it's combat jiu jitsu where you're
allowed to bitch slap. You ever seen

696
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:58.440
that in jiu jitsu? Oh?
Yeah, I think it's called combat.

697
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.599
Google you got to Google open some
look up a combat jiu jitsu. I

698
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:06.519
think it's called or combat grappling.
I remember Dana White specifically on a podcast

699
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:10.039
saying that he opened slap League.
Was on THEO vonn He basically said,

700
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:13.800
like, yeah, we bought slap
League just to go viral and to sell

701
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:16.599
the viral basically the virality of it
for sponsorships, right, And they're like,

702
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:20.800
what's more viral than these videos on
Instagram someone getting knocked out from a

703
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.519
slap yep, and then all the
sponsors that are attached to that, like,

704
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.880
we just cashing out. Basically said
like he bought slap League to just

705
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:30.079
mark go viral with these viral clips
and sell advertising. I don't think we've

706
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:34.639
talked about it yet, but I'm
gonna go UFC International Fight Week, which

707
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:38.159
is due in the sphere June twenty
eighth, that's in September. But Fight

708
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:43.800
Week, they've done a partnership with
Powerlifting America, which is our newest powerlifting

709
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:46.639
federation, and they're doing a meet
at International Fight Week. Oh weird.

710
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:50.199
Yeah, I'm gonna go see what
there's something's going on, so like it

711
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:52.960
might be the same idea what you
got. It's it looks like a mixture

712
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.639
of like UFC and just like grappling. Is it called combat jiu jitsu?

713
00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:00.320
Do combat grappling? Combat grappling?
I had just foughten it, uh,

714
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.400
and yeah you're allowed to like,
did you win? No? I think

715
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:07.280
he lost. He lost to uh
Gordon Ryan Gordon's brother whom we met,

716
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.679
Josh Gordon. Uh No, that's
the n A couple of the NBA player

717
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:15.840
what's his name, Nicky Nicky Nicky
Ryan nick and Ryan Yeah, yeah,

718
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:20.559
who trains with Nicky Rod and all
them. Those guys are making like fifty

719
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:24.039
K for a grapple. I think
that's when uh, and you can probably

720
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:27.840
knock out a way more of those
a year because you're not getting like head

721
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.639
trauma. No, when you're grappling. Yeah, those dudes could compete almost

722
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:31.800
monthly. Yeah, you compete every
month, Yeah they could, grant hi

723
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:35.159
mind, they compete often. Maybe
not the combat one because I think you

724
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:37.880
can straight like open, yeah you're
like full yeat somebody which could suck you

725
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.480
up. But it was cool to
see your eyea do it and and yeah,

726
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:49.079
so like Gordon Ryan is like beyond
the mj of grappling. There's not

727
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.000
even an argument right now. And
that's his little brother who fought you're right,

728
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.719
jeez, Yeah, who's a savage
in this jiu jitsu grappling or like

729
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:59.719
wrestling or like what all of it. So what I've come to learn,

730
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:01.199
which I've never done any of myself. I just have all these friends in

731
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:05.119
it. Is the cool thing about
jiu jitsu, at least in my opinion,

732
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:09.880
is all the rules are very ambiguous, so it's by tournament, you

733
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:13.400
know, so some may end up
looking a little bit more like That's why

734
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.840
they just call it grappling now,
you know, like broad Yeah, because

735
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:19.519
one style it's like, oh,
this guy's got to make sure wrestling Julian

736
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.480
jiu jitsu, and the competition will
light that up. So to be like,

737
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:24.480
oh, all right, this one. There's only a fifteen minute one

738
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:30.880
round and you can only submit to
win or this one. Takedowns are worth

739
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:35.880
X amount X amount. Like the
rules differ from tourney to tourney a little

740
00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:38.280
bit. I guess I crossed it
in a way, but more guided.

741
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:42.199
Obviously, it's still around wrestling,
but that's why they call it that,

742
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.639
and that's why there's combat grappling in
eighty c C, which is this year,

743
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:49.000
which is like the World Cup of
Grappling is happening in Vegas, and

744
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.599
that's a certain rule set and some
guys like it, some guys don't.

745
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:54.239
UFC has their own rule sets that
some guys like. Some guys don't.

746
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:59.440
Sound like big Grappling, Big grappling
fan, huge fan we hung out with

747
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:02.320
kind of like the Kobe Bryant of
the sport two years ago, me and

748
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:05.960
sebas and one. He was just
super cool in the school team to beat.

749
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.719
It's just fun to watch that.
I understand just enough to like watching

750
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:13.039
it. We're like, yeah,
you're gonna choke me out. I don't

751
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.480
know what the fuck I'm actually doing, but I like to like you and

752
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:19.119
of what you have sea since twenty
ten. Yeah, so you like start

753
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.480
to just pick up on some shit
and look at that, Yeah, I

754
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:27.400
look at that fucking real naked choke. Yeah where if you don't joke,

755
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.159
Yeah, it looks boring and they're
just cuddling down there. But you start

756
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:35.159
to realize they're playing hand games and
shit and the athleticism that I know they

757
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:38.440
have. You know, like our
buddy Nicki Rod is just a freak athlete

758
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:44.440
six two two twenty natty doing backflips, deadlifting six hundred, you know,

759
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:46.320
you just do it all. He's
just a freak. And so that's cool

760
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:49.880
to see them kind of get some
shine in their sport and they're just fun

761
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:53.480
guys like the jiu jitsu crowd is
known for like chill Brosah and my heads.

762
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:57.000
Yeah. The Beat team we hung
out with are just like Frapp,

763
00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:00.440
Like they're just having a good time. They're joking, they're joking on themselves.

764
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:04.239
They're called the B Team because they
left Ryan Gordon, who's the best

765
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.159
of all time, and everyone called
them like, oh you're the shitty ones,

766
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:09.159
You're the B team, and so
they just labeled themselves the B Team

767
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:12.880
now like joking like they don't give
a fuck that's good. Yeah, I

768
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.239
like it. I like that they're
the Rockies, The Rockies, the Rocky.

769
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:19.199
There was that one part in The
Rocky that when he was running back

770
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.880
to Mick where he looked pretty beefy. Yeah, when he's remember he was

771
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.480
chasing him back in the street to
say sorry to him. I'm like,

772
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:30.480
his back looked huge. Yeah,
he's probably like a Bucks seventy five ten,

773
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:35.079
you know, like he's he's a
decent sized dude. He looks natty.

774
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:37.800
I mean he is natty, but
he's like five six or five seven.

775
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.000
He's always in that scene when he
was running to Mickey, the massive

776
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:44.239
six or four because everyone always said
that about Sly and always said that about

777
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.239
Arnold, but like Arnold was clearly
over six foot. But the fact when

778
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:50.679
I see Arnold at the Arnold,
he looked like he was shorter than me.

779
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:53.159
That's what everyone always says. But
I don't swear he is now.

780
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:57.760
I think, yeah, maybe I
seventy five years old. We've been in

781
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:01.119
the same place as Stallone. I
don't know if as the Arnold for sure.

782
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.679
I know I've been around him,
but I haven't been that close to

783
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:07.559
him. Is he supposed to be
pretty sure. I've heard both. Yeah,

784
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:12.760
but who knows what car Weathers is
a tall motherfucker. Yeah, I

785
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.239
think so. He's taller than Tom
Cris, but not my mind. He

786
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:16.760
looked Yeah, I mean Google has
him at five to ten. But I've

787
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:20.159
heard both. Yeah, I've heard
people say like massive and Rocky one.

788
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:22.679
He looks tall. He looks six
two six three. Let's se him next

789
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.800
to some folks. This is a
decent if. Uh, if Arnold was

790
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:30.199
six six one, he could be
five nine Yeah, five nine, five

791
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:34.920
ten, five nine five eight makes
sense. Yeah, maybe before they shrunk.

792
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:39.320
Yeah, that's true. They're both
probably late forties here, and there's

793
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:43.679
a ship ton of they do a
movie together, ever expendables. Maybe that

794
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:45.760
is all that in there. They
just like they probably made a lot of

795
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:49.639
money to talk about. Just like
a missed opportunity though, just getting them

796
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:52.920
like head to head in one movie, Yeah, in one good movie.

797
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:58.519
Yeah are ore BC movies, they're
not. They're not Bruce good yeah man,

798
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:00.119
too bad for Bruce. I know
it's right, like, uh,

799
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:07.639
just like a head to head villain
good guy movie. Yeah, and you

800
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:09.039
don't when you don't know who We're
gonna write it right now, Yeah,

801
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:13.599
say they're both good guys, or
we don't know who's the villain and who's

802
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:16.519
the bad guy till the end.
Maybe they're both. Maybe they're both good

803
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:21.039
guys and they're trying so hard to
be the best guy that one of them

804
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:22.559
has to turn a little bit.
Yeah, like they have to start to

805
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.800
create crime to save crime. Yeah, and then they realize at the end

806
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:30.920
that they're both good and then the
sequel is them like teaming up to then

807
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.400
take down real bad guys. Yeah, maybe we tie tie in like a

808
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.360
Jingle All the Way, which is
arguably Arnold's best movie. I would say

809
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:42.039
it is. It's really good.
Put that cookie down. It's really good.

810
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:45.280
I rewatched it over Christmas time,
and Jingle all the Way might be

811
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:49.760
his best acting. You're in my
house eating my cookies with sinbad, you

812
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:52.400
know. Yeah, and the fucking
Bill Hartman, the raping neighbor Phil Hartman,

813
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:55.440
Dude, r I P. He's
a Hartman was so good in that.

814
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:59.760
Yeah, he was really good.
He was really good. He's answering

815
00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:02.599
the phone rattic making cookies. Dude. It's so funny. So if you

816
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:07.480
believe, okay, if you believe
this, Willis is supposed to be six

817
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:10.719
feet and then that picture he and
Saloon looked at the same height. Salon

818
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:15.840
is is listed at five ten.
You're right, Uh yeah, he could

819
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:19.880
be five ten and if Arnold six
one. Yeah. They're all slouchy and

820
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:23.440
not their youngest age. Yeah.
Carl Weathers is sixty five, Dolph Lends

821
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:31.360
six six two, Dolph six five. That's uh Drago, Yeah, oh

822
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:37.400
here it is here, it is
here, it is. There's Drogo because

823
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:42.320
he's inexpendables. Remember they put Drago
in the Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Uh,

824
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:46.440
he was like he was the actor
in the movies they always talked about

825
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:50.960
that was a fake movie that they
always would go see. I haven't watched

826
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:54.719
him any What was it called Homi's
supposed to be short too? Uh?

827
00:50:55.360 --> 00:51:02.599
Blade Wesley Snipes, I've heard for
getting a new blade. Oh yeah,

828
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:07.559
I think it's right. Marshall Allie. Yeah, he looks sick too.

829
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:10.880
He looks good in like the in
the picture. I saw. This is

830
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:17.400
five eight in a quarter take on
Google first first stallone celeb heights dot com.

831
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:24.280
Nice, I'm gonna put my own
in there. So the the the

832
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:30.280
singing group at the beginning of the
movie over the opening credits, the guy

833
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:35.480
actually singing the lead. Oh yeah, that's Frank Stallone. Yeah, yeah,

834
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:37.280
yeah. And then this the guy
that comes out of the shadows and

835
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:40.519
then walks past them. Yeah.
Later in the movie, that's also Frank

836
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:46.000
Stallone him paid, Yeah he did, he did. Yeah. Yeah,

837
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:49.599
when he's like, uh, what
do you say to him? Like what

838
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.320
are you doing here? Get out
of here? Whatever something like that.

839
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.400
Yeah, yeah, Frank Stalone Stallone. Apparently I did not look this up.

840
00:51:55.440 --> 00:52:01.320
In Italian means stallion, so that's
where an Italian stallion predates Rocky.

841
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:07.400
Yeah, and when there's Rocky Marciano, which was just before that. Yeah,

842
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:09.920
he kind of started stealing shit from
everywhere. Yeah, no, for

843
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:15.599
sure, for sure. But it's
it is weird that the name Italian stallion

844
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:20.920
is the thing that that clicks it
for for Creed to decide he wants to

845
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:22.719
fight him. That whole thing is
just a weird setup too. Yeah.

846
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:27.679
Yeah, it's weird how the Italians
found in America. Yeah, it's so

847
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:31.079
random. Well, yeah, it's
on your outdated history. I do think

848
00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:35.039
that's the tie in the why it
was such a big thing with my childhood

849
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:39.280
and my family because my uncle is
an Italian immigrant and was a pro boxer.

850
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:44.760
He's a Boxing Hall of Fame and
he didn't go by Italian Stallion although

851
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:46.360
he should have, although it was
previous, it was in the I think

852
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:50.440
he was born in like nineteen ten, so he's probably fighting in the twenties,

853
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:52.760
thirties, forties. Yeah, but
I think that's why it was such

854
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:54.519
a lock in for my dad,
Yeah, to just like grow up the

855
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:58.800
whole time being an Italian Stallion fan. Even as a kid, I couldn't

856
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:01.119
quite differentiate if it was if he
was a real boxer, you know,

857
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:04.400
like I didn't know what was going
on. I thought maybe it was a

858
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.800
story about a boxer. So my
dad was on the art. Like you

859
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:09.679
know, there was almost like this
like you either liked the Arnolder he liked

860
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:13.360
It. Was kind of like there
was like this not for everybody. For

861
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.920
a lot of you'd like one of
the other. My dad was always like

862
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:17.400
an Arnold fan, So I grew
up like with the Terminator movies, my

863
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:21.199
dad never my dad actually kind of
hated stillone. Yeah, he was like

864
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:22.719
Chupac Biggie thing. You could be
a fan of both, but a lot

865
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:25.719
of people chose to say He did
not like Stallone at all, so he'd

866
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:30.000
never like he saw the first Rocky
winever, but he didn't like you and

867
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:30.960
any of it. He didn't like
the Box. He thought it was looked

868
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:34.119
fake. My dad was like a
diehard boxing fan, yeah, and it

869
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:37.159
is. And he hated the Stallone
stuff. So that's why I never watched

870
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:38.880
it till like later on, you
know, like pieces of it and then

871
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:43.079
like sitting down watching the whole thing
through. Arnold seemed to do more too,

872
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:45.639
Like when he chose movies, Arnold
just went in and started ripping out

873
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:50.880
movies. Slighted it some for sure, But my dad hated the Rambo like

874
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:52.199
all that. She didn't like any
of that. Well overkill, he called

875
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:55.599
it overkill, Like, well you
liked the Arnold Yeah yeah, Commando Yeah,

876
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:59.480
yeah, they're literally the same movie. Yeah. Particularly early on,

877
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:05.920
was more interested in acting than he
was in producing and all and all of

878
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:10.039
that, whereas Stalloon came in as
an actor, writer, director, all

879
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:14.159
that kind of stuff. And he
he, I mean, he made fewer

880
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:19.079
of the of the movies during that
time because he was trying to he was

881
00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:21.800
starting to have control. Yeah,
maybe he was an artist more of an

882
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:24.400
artist's mind, and Arnold was just
a business mind, I think, but

883
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:28.320
by the time the Creed stuff came
around, he was a hack. But

884
00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:34.119
yeah, but early on he he
was like, there's the scene before in

885
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:37.280
the night before the fight, when
Rocky has gone out, he went to

886
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:43.199
the auditorium. He has that that
conversation with the with the ring announcer dude

887
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:45.840
who's he's just kind of like looking
around. Yeah, and then he comes

888
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:53.119
back and I don't know, in
the middle of the night checking audio check

889
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:58.239
one check, one check check,
And he comes back and has that conversation

890
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:01.360
with Age in in bed when he
says, I can't do it, I

891
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:07.519
can't beat him. All that stuff. That scene was not originally in the

892
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:10.199
movie, and they had run basically
were out of budget, and so he

893
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:15.360
wrote that scene and they gave him
one take to do it, so he

894
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:17.960
had to just rip it. Interesting, and I think the movie doesn't work

895
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:24.239
as well if you don't know that
all he's trying to do is is the

896
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:28.519
distance? Yeah? Interesting. Yeah, that is a kind of a turn

897
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:31.239
that kind of needs that part.
Yeah, because otherwise the whole thing it

898
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:36.320
already doesn't matter because the underdog fight
seems wild in the stretched she was an

899
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:40.079
Italian American for the pride of patriots. Yeah, and then for him to

900
00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:44.079
not believe in himself. Yeah,
you need like an ounce that he's semi

901
00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:47.000
confident he could do something special,
Yeah, which would be last Yeah,

902
00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:50.639
which is true, right, Like
he's kind of not a pro boxer,

903
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:52.000
and he's going against the world good
champ. Yeah, Yeah, he's fighting

904
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:57.719
in little like halls and spoiler alert, gambling going on spoiler alert Rocky too,

905
00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.719
he becomes a champ. He fucking
knocks his ass out, he wins.

906
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:05.800
And then how many years after does
Rocky two take place? Two or

907
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:08.360
three? It's pretty tight. And
then and then Rocky three. I think

908
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:12.159
all the movies are even two or
three years apart the first three. Yeah.

909
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:16.119
Close. I think that that Rocky
two almost immediately follows the story wise,

910
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:19.679
maybe yeah, yeah, I think
it's two or three years in production,

911
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:22.760
but maybe in the story it's pretty
damn immediate. Yeah. And then

912
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:25.400
three or four they're running on the
beach, half naked together, doing the

913
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:30.599
bro shite, training out short shorts, dancing in the tide pools. That's

914
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:36.679
right. I saw someone reference that
it's kind running in the sand like Rocky

915
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:38.480
like like after we watch this like
it was like this morning, it's a

916
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:42.920
really good montage. The montages do
end up getting better and better by Rocky

917
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:46.199
four. I mean that montage is
modern day magic and five is all montage,

918
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:50.000
right yeah, yeah, which I
like that Creed to Creed. There's

919
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:52.960
some sick montages. Yeah, they
do, like some Olympic weight thing in

920
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:54.800
five. Yeah all that, yeah
yeah yeah, and in the lab the

921
00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:59.119
Russian. Yeah, we didn't get
to see Apollo train in Rocky one.

922
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:00.880
That's where they missed out. No, yeah, we did. Like I

923
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:05.360
said, he's barely a character and
is barely a character, so a lot

924
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.719
of people that are barely in it. And then we get way too much

925
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:09.960
of his best friend. That's just
Rocky and Poulah. Yeah the whole movie.

926
00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:15.159
That guy what a walk ord duo
to like walks around with just full

927
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:16.360
bottles of booze in his pocket at
all times. Yeah, they don't even

928
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:20.559
like see like friends, you get
no chemistry. Well, they just grew

929
00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:22.039
up in the neighborhood again. Yeah, that's it. They're the only ones

930
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:25.199
that lasted in the neighborhood. Everyone
else left. Rocky has no family.

931
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:29.199
Yeah, he's got nothing, calling
that twelve year old girl a whrror.

932
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:31.800
Yeah, that was weird, ripped
the cigarette out of her mouth, and

933
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:36.400
then ten seconds later he's ripping sick
of training. They don't want to be

934
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:38.800
known as a whole. That was
another really shocking thing about it, Just

935
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:42.559
all the smoking that he does.
Yeah, I means the era, right,

936
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:45.239
Yeah, I guess, but like
I mean that that is the I'm

937
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:49.760
not maybe not a serious athlete kind
of Yeah, maybe that's part of it.

938
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:52.960
Yeah, maybe that's echoing mix.
Also, the most famous line from

939
00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:59.159
this movie ever women weakened legs,
women legs. Yeah, he said not

940
00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:02.280
not right now, she's on her
knees, begging for a kiss, begging

941
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:09.360
for some rocky cock. She's literally
on her knees, shoving her off the

942
00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:15.840
chair. Then he goes and apologizing. He's such a like like a like

943
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:21.119
a what's it called narcissist kind of
Yeah, he's just kind of like,

944
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:23.559
you know, he's about himself for
sure. Guy, he's so selfish.

945
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:28.719
But then also like he's a womanizer. He's a womanizer. He's kind of

946
00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:34.639
like sociopath vibes, kind of like
manipulating this woman. Yeah, personal game

947
00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:37.119
just to get the dog. Spoiler
alert, too, he gets all about

948
00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:38.800
the dog so we can run with
the dog. Yeah, he gets the

949
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:42.719
dog. In Rocky too, I
sold you those turtles. Yeah, I

950
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:47.000
know I sold them to you.
I think the most unhinged scene in the

951
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:52.800
whole thing is is when Polly takes
the baseball bat to his own fucking apartment,

952
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:55.599
goes ape shots like why are you
doing that? Like freaking what are

953
00:58:55.639 --> 00:59:00.559
you proving? And what are you
so mad? Like your sister literally fucking

954
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:02.920
baby sits you. I mean he's
drunk, but like he doesn't really have

955
00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:08.639
he doesn't have a complaint that is
legitimate. He's just mad because he's a

956
00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:12.320
piece of ship. He blames her
for not getting married. Yeah, he

957
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:14.679
blames her. It's like, you
have you look at your buddy. I

958
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:17.239
don't know what where was he doing
staring in that mirror combing his hair for

959
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:21.480
like an hour when he's talking to
Rocky in that on the barken mirror.

960
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:23.199
When we first meet him, he's
a little into himself too, I think,

961
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:28.480
Man, what's our rating? Oh
cold and gloves right or some ship?

962
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:31.079
No cut eyelids? Man? Oh
that one's good. He said,

963
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:35.679
I know I'm going to see you
just cut it, cut me, cut

964
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:37.679
the bubble gum. They just put
on their eyes, but make him look

965
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:42.679
swollen and for the special effect.
You're not the best special What was that

966
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:45.920
swollen eyes? Okay? You know
what. I it's hard for me to

967
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:50.239
judge because I've seen the other Rockies
and I do think progressively they actually get

968
00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:53.519
better, although without this one you
can't have the other right exactly, so

969
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:57.559
that taking into account, this might
be my highest rating ever. I might

970
00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:01.360
give it like a four point five
Rockies it, you know, like as

971
01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:05.079
many movies I had gone back to, even Star Wars, which I'm a

972
01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:07.840
huge fan of, sometimes they'll feel
you'll feel the era so much. And

973
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:12.000
you definitely feel the era here,
don't get me wrong, but there's some

974
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:15.840
magic in the simplicity of the character
and the movie. Like it's so streamline

975
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:20.480
you don't have to think, but
it still kind of captures you don't and

976
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:23.960
then you kind of want to see
Rocky too after this. The other movie

977
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:28.760
that this one really reminds me of
is Saturday Night Fever, says a little

978
01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:32.840
bit later, Yeah, but it's
a similar like indie vibe movie, even

979
01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:36.960
like even like pulp fiction has like
a similar vibe to this, you know

980
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:39.920
that era does happen. Yeah,
this this very streamlined story and you don't

981
01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:44.760
really know the plot, but it
doesn't matter kind of two yeah, yeah,

982
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:45.920
like the plot of pull fiction doesn't
matter at all. No, you're

983
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:49.880
just kind of following the guy's day, and here you're just kind of falling

984
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:52.559
Rocky. Yeah. Yeah, you
don't have no perception of time. When

985
01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:55.239
you watch rock Now they're like,
how long? How many days? Weeks?

986
01:00:55.320 --> 01:01:00.480
Was three hours? Or was this
forty five years? Yeah? Yeah,

987
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:02.719
yeah, I think it is supposed
to be four months. Okay,

988
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:06.840
yeah, you have no clue,
three months something like that. Don't know.

989
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:13.800
Well, it's it's before the day
before Thanksgiving nineteen seventy five, and

990
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:15.760
I think the fight is maybe in
February, which is not much because they

991
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:19.719
go through Christmas, they go through
Thanksgiving. I guess there is some kind

992
01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:22.159
of they really actually I take that
back, I guess you're ready to know,

993
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:25.039
because like they really forced the holidays
on you, so you know where

994
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:30.239
you're at. Yeah, exactly exactly. The other thing I was just going

995
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:34.239
to throw out is that my experience
I didn't see this movie when it first

996
01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:37.519
came out but what my experience was
the music. So I was in band

997
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:39.880
in high school and we played Gotta
flying out all the time in the hope

998
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:44.559
that the football team would ever like
win anything, you know, even make

999
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:46.559
some kind of a touchdown some of
them. Is this the most iconic movie

1000
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:50.679
song ever? I feel like it's
gonna be in the conversation. Yeah,

1001
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:55.679
and the Tiger. Yeah. Star
Wars was also Star Wars related. James

1002
01:01:55.719 --> 01:02:00.880
Bond, James Bond, Star Wars. This was this made for the movie.

1003
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:01.920
The score was it already? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1004
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:05.920
oh wow, yeah yeah, iconic
as it gets. Don't like the Star

1005
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:15.119
Wars theme, don't rocky. It's
been using every rap song ever like it's

1006
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:17.159
so good it is, and it
doesn't They don't even fill it out in

1007
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:21.719
this one. They start to fill
it out orchestraly and ate since as the

1008
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:25.800
movies progress, even in Creed,
J. Cole spits a bar over like

1009
01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:30.039
a new version of the song.
It's so good, it's so iconic.

1010
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:34.320
Yeah, there's the one scene though, They're gonna fly now scene with all

1011
01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:37.719
the lyrics that that's cringe. Yeah, the lyrics are cringe for sure.

1012
01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:42.920
You need a little just to beat
good in strong. That's a little rough.

1013
01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:45.199
What's more iconic for Rocky though?
I either Tiger or the or the

1014
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:50.599
original song so insane. Yeah,
it's like you can't. You can't separate

1015
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:53.960
the James Bond theme from all the
original you know, themes for each movie,

1016
01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:57.880
same way that you can't. Yeah, they're the same song, but

1017
01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:00.159
not. Yeah, you can't separate
Good Flying Out from any of the other

1018
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:04.760
one. I think I's heard the
story of Ia the Tiger how it came

1019
01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:07.920
about. So they were supposed to, i think, write a song for

1020
01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:13.280
this movie, and they had to
write three songs and they were gonna pick

1021
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:15.480
one, and they wrote two that
they were like, oh, they're gonna

1022
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:20.320
for sure choose one of these two
because these are like bangers and them and

1023
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:22.639
they and then they're like, well, we just got to make a third

1024
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:24.639
one just to feel the like what
we were asked to do. So they

1025
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:29.159
banged that one out in like a
couple hours, and it was The Tiger.

1026
01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:30.599
And that's the one that like,
that's how that song like became iconic.

1027
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:35.880
It is so iconic. Yeah,
it's so crazy story like that.

1028
01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:38.480
We got to give them something a
filler. Yeah, it's a hitter.

1029
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:45.599
Interesting story. My rating, I'll
give it. I'll give it, you

1030
01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:47.480
know, three and a half.
It was. It was okay. I'm

1031
01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:52.280
just I'm not like you like Arnold
dudes. I'm an Arnold guy. I

1032
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:54.360
was kind of groomed to be an
Arnold guy, you know. Stillone.

1033
01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:57.199
It was fine. I thought it
was, you know, it was watchable.

1034
01:03:57.320 --> 01:04:00.360
You know. Obviously it's kind of
long. From how streamline and how

1035
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:01.559
like bare Bones it was. It
was kind of long. There's a lot

1036
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:05.320
of turtle scenes and ship, a
lot of a lot of like walking from

1037
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:09.239
one side of the frame to the
other, like on a like on a

1038
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:13.159
stationary camera. There's a lot of
that. That's a that's a very seventies

1039
01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:15.679
kind of true thirty five millimeter probably
like what is that? Yeah, they're

1040
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:18.239
just trying to set the stage,
but you don't really need to. There's

1041
01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:20.960
nothing going on. And there's a
lot just because they didn't have a lot

1042
01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:24.639
of a lot of cast for this, there's a lot of scenes of Rocky

1043
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:29.159
talking to himself yeah yeah, and
also just like grabbing that bouncing that racketball,

1044
01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:33.760
yeah, or catching it and drill. Yeah. I always say that

1045
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:42.000
you can't diminish the fact that this
set the template for what the Cinderella story.

1046
01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:48.000
Yeah, maybe every sport, every
single element that you're ever gonna see

1047
01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:51.800
in that kind of movie is in
this movie. Yeah. They made montage

1048
01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:57.719
to School. Yeah, they did
everything. I probably gotta go. I

1049
01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:03.079
probably gotta go. Four fair Cut
Islands, even though and for its importance,

1050
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:08.760
necessarily for how much I enjoyed watching
it, it was how much yeah

1051
01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:15.360
significens and and how much I just
was recognizing all of those things that have

1052
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:18.639
have have become the norm in that
type of film. Yeah, my rating

1053
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:24.039
is not entertainment. That's the whole
package. Yeah, I've seen more of

1054
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:28.920
them than I love. They do
progressively, maybe get better, Like Rocky

1055
01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:30.320
four. I think a lot of
people say, is the best Rocky Like

1056
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:33.760
the Drago one. Yeah, that's
the one I remember the most, But

1057
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:36.679
the other ones start to like,
they're pretty good. I saw a Rocky

1058
01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:41.000
Boboa the sixth one in the theater. Yeah it's not terrible. It's not

1059
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:44.239
terrible. Yeah, it's not like
it's like last Yeah. Yeah, yeah

1060
01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:50.880
before Creed. Yeah, but uh
that movie and Creed they feel connected.

1061
01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:54.920
Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, which
is probably why the bigger plan. Yeah,

1062
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:59.280
so Rocky I mean, Rocky fights
in Rocky Boboa but and obviously doesn't

1063
01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:03.679
fight but Cancer and Creed. But
uh, it feels like the same character.

1064
01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:06.960
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he almost takes a new vibe

1065
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:11.280
to himself. Then you then the
character creation is a thing thing. Yeah,

1066
01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:13.800
like you know who Rocky Balboa is? Right? Yeah? Where this

1067
01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:15.119
one? I'm still I don't know
if he's funny. I don't know if

1068
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:16.760
he's not funny. I don't know
if he's a bomb. I don't know

1069
01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:19.360
if he's Yeah, who knows.
Yeah, you don't really know yet.

1070
01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:26.000
Knife collector, Yeah, murderer.
We might have to do two yeah,

1071
01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:29.320
or a Creed or bounce around with
him or something. Yeah, well you

1072
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:31.039
probably could do a Creed right now. It would be a direct comparison because

1073
01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:34.559
Creed's the same movie. It's just
one. Yeah, or we go four

1074
01:06:34.719 --> 01:06:39.719
Drago, Drago's epic Mister t is
not bad. Two he wins. Yeah.

1075
01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:43.079
Five, we could probably leave out, but maybe maybe a two,

1076
01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:45.360
A Drago or a Creed. I
haven't seen Creed, so he's pretty good.

1077
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:48.119
Oh, you haven't seen Created is
pretty good. Yeah, you'll get

1078
01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:50.639
the vibe for sure. Yeah,
I know, it's definitely back in Philly

1079
01:06:50.679 --> 01:06:54.719
and the whole, the whole nine
yards. But it's yeah, that's that's

1080
01:06:54.760 --> 01:06:58.599
a really really good movie. Yeah. I think it's pretty good too.

1081
01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:05.480
Yeah, it's it. You see
them, you see the all the gears

1082
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:08.199
turning. I guess that is what
I'm trying to say. And it's like

1083
01:07:08.280 --> 01:07:14.480
it's all coming together towards something that
that if Rocky had a budget right and

1084
01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:15.840
it was established, Yeah, it
would have been great. And that's what

1085
01:07:16.119 --> 01:07:18.719
feels like I made in the two
thousand. Yeah, like a good Rocky

1086
01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:21.880
Yeah yeah, yeah, kind of
forback of its term. Yeah, it's

1087
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:25.639
like the yeah, the modern take. Yeah, it's like a remake without

1088
01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:27.880
it being like a direct remake.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's

1089
01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:30.760
what Star Wars seven tried to do
poorly. Yeah, Force Awakens. Yeah,

1090
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:33.639
yeah, it's like a remake,
but it's a bad Star Wars did

1091
01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:36.119
a bad version, Creed did a
good version. Yeah, where mugs you're

1092
01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:41.239
nostalgia strings, but it's still new
and fresh. Yep, yep, you

1093
01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:45.000
guys started. Nothing would get off
of the side stories here. But have

1094
01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:48.840
you watched the alcohol Ade it all
yet? I've heard I watched the first

1095
01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:53.960
one. They watched the first two. They released two. Yeah, my

1096
01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:56.920
problem is I'm going to think it
looks cool and it sounds interesting. I

1097
01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:00.280
just don't know if I care.
I'm running low on care. Well,

1098
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:01.960
I got my black belt in the
High Republic era, like as far as

1099
01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:05.320
like I read all I've read all
the books in all the comics with ten

1100
01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:10.719
thousands pages of this shit, and
like this takes place like one hundred years

1101
01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:13.639
from like where the timeline is in
there, yeah, before and there's like

1102
01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:17.720
kind of one carryover character from that
time, and obviously like Yoda's alive at

1103
01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:20.680
this time. Still we don't.
I haven't seen Yoda yet an ALCOHOLI but

1104
01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:25.760
it's fine. My only problem with
it is just like the media that they're

1105
01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:28.479
running with it. It's just everything
about it. It's like so like like

1106
01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:31.720
the show's fine, but then like
the other side of it, the marketing

1107
01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:38.199
of it is like everything I've seen
has been just about not the show.

1108
01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:41.159
Yeah, That's what I've been And
I'm just like, why does this have

1109
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:43.119
to even be a thing. Why
can't we just talk about the show?

1110
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:45.520
I don't you can ever do that
anything. I'm okay for like whatever,

1111
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:46.800
I don't give a shit, you
know, Like I don't care. If

1112
01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:48.760
it's good, it's good. If
it's good, it's good. But then

1113
01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:54.319
like all the people in it are
just only talking about things outside of the

1114
01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:57.840
show, and like that, I
just don't and it's being forced in my

1115
01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:00.880
feet because I'm interested in Star Wars. Yeah, yet everyone does make everything

1116
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:04.359
political, but it like I don't
care. I don't even I wouldn't even

1117
01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:08.359
have noticed this. Probably like I
don't care, just like make the show

1118
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:17.840
good. Actually, I read a
Reddit thread this morning talking about seamless handoffs

1119
01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:23.840
enfranchises, and the Rocky Decreed is
the one of the one of the most

1120
01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:27.960
seamless handoffs ever. Star Wars has
not done a good job with that kind

1121
01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:31.279
They also just like all the behind
the scenes drama and then it just gets

1122
01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:36.039
everybody's just like trying to outdo somebody's
but they thought someone did wrong, and

1123
01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:41.720
then it makes it for a bad
product. And that's kind of like I

1124
01:09:41.720 --> 01:09:44.279
feel like that's kind of continuous and
Star Wars forever. It's like, oh,

1125
01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:46.279
well, like we're gonna go the
complete opposite of this because we want

1126
01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:49.279
to be more this way. And
then it's like, well then now it's

1127
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:53.880
this obvious. Now it's distracting.
I think that the only decent thing that

1128
01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:58.399
they've done, you know, since
episode six is probably and Or, and

1129
01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:01.319
that is a very specific audience.
Yeah, and Door is great and fantastic.

1130
01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:03.680
And I like Man Lori and Man
Laurian. Yeah, Man Lauria got

1131
01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:08.399
some run that's like you're like your
popcorn that's your popcorn show, right,

1132
01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:11.199
Like that's you're like that should be
the branch off. Yeah, that's your

1133
01:10:11.199 --> 01:10:14.960
popcorn in your face show. Then
you got your niche like uh, Clorama

1134
01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:17.279
like or right, Clone Wars,
Clone Wars, all those are good and

1135
01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:21.159
they're just bad Batch pretty separable.
Yeah, it's old, last season bad,

1136
01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:29.359
Okay, the worst shit ever.
But it's Creed. Yeah yeah,

1137
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:30.800
seamless transitions, I got it.
I need to watch Created. Yeah,

1138
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:33.359
we'll do that. I got a
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