Feb. 12, 2025

Ronnie Coleman: The King (2018) | A 50% Facts Review

Ronnie Coleman: The King (2018) | A 50% Facts Review

This documentary from Generation Iron recaps the career of 8-time Mr. Olympia, Ronnie Coleman, as he prepares for yet another back surgery. While we don’t gain a lot new information, it’s a nostalgic look at some of the most iconic training footage...

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This documentary from Generation Iron recaps the career of 8-time Mr. Olympia, Ronnie Coleman, as he prepares for yet another back surgery. While we don’t gain a lot new information, it’s a nostalgic look at some of the most iconic training footage from his long Olympia run, along with a painful chronical of his current, painful condition and his love of family.

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Well, they never the Golden State didn't have somebody that

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could just drive the lane and get and get fouls.

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Think about like they were never the Golden States never

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shoots free throws, and now all of a sudden, they've

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shot more free throws in the last week than they

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have ever because they got Butler driving the fucking rim

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getting banged up.

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Yeah, it's just like David Lee. David Lee would get

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to the line a little bit and that team was

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good too, But then Steph wasn't he was good? He

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was good. Yeah. Montelish, Yeah, montellis an unfuh forgettable stud.

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Forgive us. We're talking a little basketball on the on

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the lead in here, they.

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Got All Star weekend.

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Yeah, hey, when do we get in our All Star

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game that we were promised?

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When we have more hotel rooms?

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Still talking about that's the show. Yeah, yeah, well I

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was reading some on the Super Bowl. They just be rotating,

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huh like that? No one, Like, I don't know if

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they can't back. Yeah, it's going back to so fights.

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I think next year's back in Santa Clara. Then it's

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back to SOFI.

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And they just had those anymore? Did they just they

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still bid?

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Yeah, because I think I was reading Vegas is trying

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to get one again, but they just had it. And

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I mean it does make sense. Like we've talked about

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for powerlifting nationals or other events, it makes sense. Although

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there is biased, it makes sense to do it in

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a cool city, especially our niche sports destination. Bro, doing

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powerlifting Nationals in Las Vegas is just the biggest no

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brainer I've ever heard. You know, like you don't want

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to go fly to fucking Memphis.

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No, they had an't Memphis last year.

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I think you might got turned there we go the awesome.

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Yeah, it just makes no sense, and so obviously the

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NFL's larger scale, Like guys are going to go buy

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a super Bowl ticket regardless, you know, Like I heard

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a booth was like a quarter mill or something. Good

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Lord and New Orleans is a party town, although disgusting there.

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I heard there's just vomit everyone.

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I'm sure, I'm sure.

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During this probably just like even if the super Bowl's.

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Not there, No, dude, the only time I went was

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a random like March and Bourbon Street is yet gross.

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Like New Orleans has some charm for sure, but like

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Bourbon Street is like it's not a place.

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I wanted to hang out.

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Honestly, watch a lot of the I watched a lot

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of that show called uh what is it? Live Rescue?

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I think it's all based in uh, Louisiana, like in

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that area.

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Yeah, Bourbon Street is wide.

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And they're always they're fucking doing shit.

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The it was and stabbing. It was one of the

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grossest experience. Yes, smells terrible. There's not much charm to it.

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There's like these you can do like haunted tours there.

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Yeah, that kind of stuff was down for that the

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history and the food and the architecture. There are some

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pluses to that city for sure, But in terms of

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like where all this was going down, I'm out.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm out.

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No Bourbon Street for me. And I understand like if

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like some people do just like to get belligerent, drunk

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and feel like the wild West. Yeah, maybe the Bourbon.

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Streets for you.

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You know, I think it's like Vegas where they're not

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going to stop you from doing shit, you know. Yeah,

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like you can't just whip out a titty in Vegas

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like this is not you probably could now you could

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sneak away with one, but you're gonna get if you

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would get caught, You're caught. Were there? It's like encouraged

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to like throw up in the drain and flash titty.

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Yeah, like California here, we'd like to just let men

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just have their dogs out.

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Yeah, dogs out legal, No, no titty, no nip.

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The nip might be pushing it. But you can just

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walk around San Francisco. They're just your Johnson hanging out.

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I see a lot of body parts. Yeah, rolling around cities?

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Is that illegal now? I remember it used to be legal?

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It's still legal? Is it still as far as illegal

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legal allowed? Yeah, it was like a thing to be

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dong out. Yeah.

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San Francisco the city exclusive.

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Yeah, the seventies, the seventies one.

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Yeah, yeah, I think the sixties one.

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Dogs out, our sixties, Dogs out? Cali.

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Who is whose girlfriend came naked to the Grammys?

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Kan Kanye Kanye? Well, she wasn't naked. She was naked, Yeah,

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it's a wife Bionca And she wasn't naked per se?

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Well, I mean did you could see her vagina?

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Yeah? But there was clothing on top, true, right, so

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by definition yeah, but by definition I don't think she

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was naked. Yeah, there was there was exposure.

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Yeah, it's as naked as you could be without being

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completely naked.

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It was as exposed as you could be. Yeah, I

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think it's art.

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Apparently his whole Twitter thing was the test too. He

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said today, my test is over.

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Yeah, but then he took that down and kept going, yeah,

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my test is Shopify. The latest news is Shopify deleted them.

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Yeah, I still better to get my slides.

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No, they're not coming. Shopify literally got deleted.

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It was a while ago. Hopefully they sort of shipped.

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Oh dude, I bought his first twenty dollars sock slides

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and it took like eight months and.

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I have mine. There's too big, but you got the socks. Yeah,

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they're too big though I haven't even worn a much.

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Warning we were gonna do like a deadlift skit with

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them because it kind of looked like a dead shoot.

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I put them on and they were company. They're just

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too Yeah, they're just too long.

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I should try mine. Yeah, I mean, I like the

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twenty dollars idea. I think of school stuff on MARKA

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low top ones. No, no, they're all solid rubber ones.

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I'm talking the new ones. Yeah, I want the new ones.

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I got those, but I haven't got them yet I

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only have the soft ones. You released a twenty dollars boot.

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So the one I got was the first one of those.

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It goes up to your knee.

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Yeah, I got those two.

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Yeah, those are the only ones, the pods. Yeah. Anyways, Yeah,

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he's done.

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Speaking of done, speaking of it done. Now we're talking

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about Ronnie Coleman The King, a documentary of sorts from

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the people at Generation Iron.

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So it was a Generation Iron production.

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Yeah. I think all this stuff felt like one of those. Yeah,

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all those were going to attack soon. I think we're

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talking about doing CTWO fletchers, and I mean, sadly that's

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the only production company fucking making stuff about fitness.

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Yeah, I saw I saw one in there that looks terrible,

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so it should be fun to watch. It wasn't from them,

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but it was like some kind of a strength challenge

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and Blaine Sumner is in it, and it was like,

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I don't know what the fuck it was called. I

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was going to write it down, and of course I didn't.

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It was it was after I finished this one last night.

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Yeah.

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This came out twenty eighteen, and a Generation Iron the

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first one probably came out like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen

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when they kind of made like the Generation Iron movie,

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which was they were trying to make like a modern

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day Pumping Iron. Yeah, and then they yeah obviously sprouted

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out and did a ton of individual films. We haven't

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covered in a Generation Iron per se, haven't we No,

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we haven't, Yeah, because actual one isn't that terrible? Like

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were they going to like branch warn and somebody these

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falls off the horse? Yeah, BRANH. Warren, Yeah, yeah.

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I've not seen that.

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Yeah, Yeah, that's like, that's that first. I think it's

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the first Generation Iron.

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I throw it into that one.

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Next thing. Yeah, and then obviously the Rich Pond one

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we just watched. I guess that was it, but that

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they even admitted they didn't really make it. They scrapped it.

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Yeah, this one's not that much different than that. Honestly, really,

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I thought I thought I had a lot more going on. Well,

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it has more going on, but it's it's.

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I don't really get its purpose at all, but like

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kind of the through line was like his surgery date.

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Yeah, I wish it gave us and there was no

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payoff on that at all. That's the next seas in

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the next movie.

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Yeah, maybe I don't know, but even having a through line,

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to me is way more elevated than what happened to

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Rich Piana's right, Like, this had the through line of

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they started out a childhood, They had the timeline chronologically,

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and then they had the timeline of how many surgeries

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in the current pain, which is like a very common

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obviously documentary when you're covering someone who's still alive, you'll

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do like what's very current in the obstaclet or chasing,

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plus the whole chronological uh chronological of like playing football,

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playing sports, becoming a cop, how long he was a cop?

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Dug into his kids a little bit. We're like, Rich,

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you got zero. Yeah, Like there wasn't even formatted.

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Yeah, I just I don't know. I mean, it just

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didn't have a ton of impact, I think, is the deal.

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I Mean, maybe the most interesting fact that came out

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of it to me was that his his back injuries

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started before he ever started bodybuilding.

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Yeah, he said he's had it since he was like

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he's fifteen.

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Yeah kind of. And then he talks about like a

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disc during those front squads. But there's just there's just

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no way whatever he is going through is just a

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disc bursting. No, there's a lot like like how he

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walked and shaped was like the scariest, saddest thing I've

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ever seen.

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So he was literally walking like, uh, what's his name

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from Penguin?

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Yeah, well yeah, we're like like like a palsy or

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something like. It was so bad like when.

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He didn't have his when he didn't have his crutches

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and he was walking through that hall and he was

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like from the shot from the back like, oh, he's

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walking literally like exactly like the penguin. Yeah, when he's

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going side to side like almost hit in the walls.

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There's a scene where he goes upstairs and into his room.

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I mean there's multiple scenes with that one in particular,

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and they shot the entire thing, didn't edit it, and

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then had him micd up through the whole thing. Yeah.

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I just like that was just so painful to watch,

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like walking, Yeah, he was like yeah, and just like

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you know how much pain he was in. And then

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he just like sits down on the first thing to

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sit down and just like looks around. I'm like, dude,

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this guy's gotta be and he admits it. You know,

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they ask him like pain scale one to ten. He's like, yeah,

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pretty much a nine or ten. And I don't think

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you just say that casually.

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He said like eleven, twelve, thirteen at certain point.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, he said at events when he has

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to stand all day, like, I don't know, man, it

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was pretty sad, but I do think it was much better,

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like there's a plan. Like again, it's not one of

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my favorite documentaries, but there was definitely a plan where

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a lot of the other stuff we watched what we

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watched Piana Oh and Brian Johnson, even Brian Johnson just

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felt like an ad like there wasn't like a real

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story to like, oh, he was having harder conditions when

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he was younger, and then he wants to live forever,

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like you don't know why you want to live forever

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besides his ego? Where this one? Although I wish they

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would have asked Ronnie directly, which they didn't, I think

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there was a lot of good insight from guys like

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Jay Cutler, who he was like competitive and close to,

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and and and how in Flex Wheeler. How they explained

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Ronnie I actually thought was interesting because he he he

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he didn't have like a Michael Jordan Kobe like mentality.

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But then like he kind of did like he like

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he he he wasn't gonna get beat and he would

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do anything to take to win. But then he wasn't

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like a dog really like I don't know he was.

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It's interesting. And then how he talks is so happy,

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go lucky, like you've never really seen him mad. Yeah,

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he's always kind of just like, you know, dumb, hitaly

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dumb dumb, you know, kind of floating through life like

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he's insanely positive in that manner where where a lot

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of times when you connect really high level competitiveness, you know,

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ray Lewis, whoever it might be, they're like kind of

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negative in a sense, you know, like a lot of

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Kobe interviews are kind of like stoic and negative.

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Yeah, it's like you just like stuck it out until

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it's his turn.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I guess he did not do well at first

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the first like three four five shows. He just like

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he climbed eventually, but he was in the bottom of

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his first at least for his first show for sure.

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First Olympia for show for show, because I thought they

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were talking about Olympia a lot when he was getting

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like fifth and ninth.

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Yeah, I no, I think that's true too.

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He was like every year he got like a couple

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spots higher higher. I guess that's what kept him going.

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He never really went backwards.

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Yeah, no, till till till he was done and should

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have been done and walk away. I think probably the

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most insightful thing in the whole and the whole thing

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that that any of the of the other personality said

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was when Cutler said he just got too big. He

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just got too big, and he just like the world

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turned on that. But he got too big.

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I mean, like you saw him in college. He was

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fucking jacked. Yeah, he was fucking jacked his whole life.

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And a lot of those guys are like the rumor

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still is a kygreen turned pro natty. Yeah, that's the

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that he turned, you know. And there's pictures him nineteen.

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He looks fucking insane.

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Yeah. Of all the the bodybuilding celebrities and in this thing,

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I think I've only met two of them. I think

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I met well obviously met flex and and Jake Cutler.

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Jake Keler sounds exactly like that all the time.

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He's another color once.

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He's another positive figure in the sport. You know, you

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don't really see him like getting negative or anything like that.

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That era is kind of crazy, Like I I probably

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followed it more then because I was watching like the random,

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you know, vlog style videos of Ronnie. I guess I

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followed like right after right because Ronnie like retired in

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like six o seven, and I didn't get into this

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stuff until like eight oh nine when I was out

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of high school and basketball was like floating away.

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And those videos were still very prominent.

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But that's why. Yeah, So it was like it was

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there was like the videos might even just been coming

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out at that time kind of thing. So I watched

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a lot of those. But they they even mentioned it too,

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like how are studded that era is that they're all

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like Olympia winners, like top one through five in any

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other day, And I wonder if that's their biased you

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know what I mean, because like that's the same bias

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that happens in basketball talk all the time, Like, oh,

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if Larry was you know, around now, he'd be shitting

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on you. And then all the new kids say, Larry Bird,

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you know, the plumber or whatever. You know, they'll make

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all these dumb jokes. But I wonder if the sport

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hasn't changed as much as other sports, right, because like

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the guy, it's not like basketball has just changed. Man,

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in fucking nineteen sixty you can't compare eras they couldn't

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dribble at their left hand, right, and then like what

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Kyrie Irving does with the ball literally looks like magic

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to that, right, Like if you if you plant Kyrie

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Irving back in nineteen fifties basketball, they're on a witch

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hunt to wonder like what this wizard's doing. You know,

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it's just so would killed him, right, He's just so

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different what he can fucking do, So you can't really compare.

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And that's what you know. I have a grudge against

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these new zoomers who just don't show love for that

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and not even going rents all the time, like they

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had to blaze the trail, you know, like they had

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to be that way because no one else was like that.

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They're elevated, but bodybuilding hasn't seemed quite to get that

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from the Ronnie era to now. It's not like guys

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are four hundred pounds and extra extra shredded.

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Yeah, you know, it's almost like, if anything, the interest

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has shifted to more like the sea bone class for sure,

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like the freak giant bodies is like it never. I

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feel like I'll probably never really recovered from the Cutler rain.

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And then I guess who's after color? Who's color? And

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I wasn't film Will and Cutler banging it out together.

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Then that was kind of the end of that.

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Yeah, Phil, Phil was kind of the last one people

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cared about, at least a guy. Now. Yeah, see, maybe

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I'm just out of touch. That's what I was wondering,

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if I'm out of touch or if no one cares

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because I was.

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Never into it though when I knew who those guys were,

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you know what I mean, Like, I didn't follow it.

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Yeah right, dude, outside the door, you're just fantasizing going

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to the Arnold again as a lone puppy.

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That's true.

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You're a beatthead at heart, that's true.

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But I didn't follow track, you know, like, oh, who's

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doing what? And what's who was the Pittsburgh Pro And

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I mean like so and I know those guys, Yeah

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it was a big deal, right, So it's like, yeah,

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I don't know who's.

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A big deal. Yeah, I do wonder because physical seabumb

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though physique came first. You know, I don't know, maybe

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twenty fifteen, sixteen seventeen the board shorts and that got

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really popular. And then I think literally the IFBB by

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making Classic Bodybuilding, which Sea Bumps dominated, they basically admitted

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to the world that pro bodybuilding is two jacked right,

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Otherwise they wouldn't make a category called classic bodybuilding. And

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I do agree with you, like Phil still looked really insane.

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Dexter Jackson, I think one to one after Phil, and

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Dexter's always been smaller and very symmetrical. I think he

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literally won an oh after Phil. Ronnie obviously is very

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symmetrical for how big he was. He was the first,

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you know, like three hundred pounder on stage. I guess

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he evolved it in some senses because I think all

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the guys like Minimum got to be like two eighty

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three bills on stage now, so you know they call

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him the mass monsters or whatever.

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Is this the guy?

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This is your Yeah, Samson. Samson's a freak. He's been

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around a long time though. He probably just as yeah

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starting to peak. Yeah, Sampson's and he looks good. Yeah,

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don't look crazy. Yeah, I don't want to look like that.

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The issues is when like their lats like mesh into

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your quads. You know, like this just literally they're so

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jacked the insertion and maybe it's genetics, you know, where

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the insertion of the lats so deep in the hip

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and your hip and your quad insertions so deep into

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your hip that you just look like a blob.

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Yeah, but he looks good. Yeah, I know he's got

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the she's got the taper waist and you know, giant clods.

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Yeah, I mean I guess, Yeah, waist is a little thick.

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If you want to compare him to like a really

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young Ronnie or obviously Arnold.

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Ronnie's got looked like absurd.

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Yeah. I mean, even when he's like changing or getting

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medical stuff at his age, he's all jacked. He's like shredded.

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They like lift his shirt to put like a node

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on his chest or something. I don't know what they're doing,

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but it is his six backs like clearly still visible.

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Oh yeah, you're like, what the fuck.

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Is going on?

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He's probably still eats pretty good.

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I think he's just I don't know, bro, he's slamming

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down sausage every morning, a fucking eye hop the pancakes.

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That was yeah, but he always I mean, that's that

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was like some of the cool parts. And I still

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get like a weird genetics or genetics, yeah, and nostalgia

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of like, bro, you'd eat like a whole plate of

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French fries and then like a whole plate of chicken

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breast and those old unders and he just slam them

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down with Yeah, hell of barbecue, sauce, vegetables. But three

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three hundred pounds. Yeah, and he's a cop. Ye, Like

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he's probably walking around all day, he's doing ship all day.

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It's not like he's just like.

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And I bet you, honestly, I bet you him being

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a cop is might we also have been have led

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to his back.

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Problems for sure.

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It's like you're busting your ass all fucking day in

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the gym and then you go sit in a squad

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car for twelve hours.

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I'm sure it.

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Didn't help the last thing you should be doing, even

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like the meetings he's in, Like life fucks up right,

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he's three hundred pounds, Like he can't sit in a

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fucking normal chair, you know, Like how uncomfortable. You know.

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The old videos are so iconic. I wish that would

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have showed a little bit more. They showed obviously clips

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of the old stuff, but like he'd pull up in

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like a big ass hummer. That's when I first thought

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hummers were cool. I mean it was kind of the era,

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you know, like it was the DMX jay z era

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and he's just thumping DMX, just doing fucking lunches with

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three fifteen and shit, like he just didn't give a fuck.

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How sick was his home gym?

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Yeah, it was crazy.

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That was the best part of that house he was

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in his house was that Jack Leicester for those numbers

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he was thrown out about his sepon in line. Yeah.

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Yeah, that that second gym and houses is in like

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the second or third documentary. And he started training there

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more when he was at home after he had already

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won the O, which I think even at the time

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was crazier. It was like half a mill, right, and

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so half a mill in the nineties versus maybe they

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win a meal now I don't know what they win.

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Their house just seemed pretty modest.

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It was.

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It wasn't crazy, It wasn't crazy. Well, here's the thing.

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If I had his problems, I would not live in

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a house that had stairs.

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Yeah, he said he's been there forever.

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Just sell it.

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Bro I was thinking about that, I was like, yeah,

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he did get a one story, Yeah we.

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Get a big what are we doing rambling ranch? And

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you know, don't worry about.

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Why do all these bodybuilder types always have like the

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same shitty, weird gothic style bedroom. They always got like

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these like weird like attle, It's always gothic, It's always

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a weird point.

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I don't know if Ronnie did his, because he does

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seem What I do like about Ronnie is he's he

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seems like not the bodybuilder type. Like mentally, yeah, he

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isn't in terms of like monotony a little bit, and

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you know, like you could see that like no offense.

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He's kind of boring, but you kind of have to

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be but smart apparently, Yeah, yeah, I don't think he's stupid.

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I mean he's smart. Yeah, I mean I don't know.

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I'm I have a lot of hate on our education

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system in general. You know, just because he get a's

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doesn't mean that to me, you're fucking brilliant.

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Well it's yeah, sure, but then he's got you know,

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twenty million dollar company. No for sure, for sure, top

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of it.

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For sure.

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He carried it into the real world.

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But he was the first to do it too, and

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he was like, we said, bro, he's on every magazine, Like,

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if you can't make money, yeah, and you're the most

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famous fitness person on the planet, then I think you're Yeah.

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Yeah, no, for sure. I mean, you know the Olympia

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eight times and you're not making money.

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Yeah, you're an idiot. I do think that he has

466
00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:16.480
a will and an effort, right, and you know, sure,

467
00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:18.599
when you get into a PhD or something, you got

468
00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:21.160
to be able to put some stuff together. But it's

469
00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:23.960
also having a four point zero and eighth grade, man,

470
00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:25.920
just means you're putting a lot of effort in. Yeah,

471
00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:27.200
you know what I mean. It doesn't mean that you're

472
00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:30.079
some savant. I mean even junior college, Bro, I fucking

473
00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:32.440
didn't study where shit out of three eight, you know,

474
00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:34.079
And I'm no fucking savant either.

475
00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:36.920
He has a lot of kids, though, so maybe a

476
00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:38.720
lot of a lot of ALI money going out there.

477
00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:41.759
There's a lot yeah, seven maybe total.

478
00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:47.319
They didn't really detail the whole Two of them are

479
00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:51.519
me Mike's age almost yeah yeah. And then from then

480
00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:53.680
he's got you know, and then this came out in

481
00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:56.000
twenty eighteen, probably shot in twenty seventeen.

482
00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:57.759
Oh yeah, so there are our age exactly.

483
00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:00.160
I thought he was gonna talk about Vicky Vallencoll when

484
00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:06.160
he was talking. It's the same accent. Is he from Louisiana?

485
00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:08.920
Is that what he said? He's from Louisiana. For those

486
00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:13.720
that don't know, the younger generation water Boy, Adam Sandler's

487
00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:17.000
lover was Vicky Valancourt, and Ronnie has the same accent.

488
00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:19.240
He's talking about his first wife named Vicky.

489
00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:21.480
I've always had this weird crush on Vicky.

490
00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:26.200
Vicky Ugourt's a fucking babe. Yeah, she can fuck me

491
00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:26.599
up on.

492
00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:30.279
That long coor that little special water she's got.

493
00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.079
Yeah, just his accent. Why is it there's a certain

494
00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:36.799
era of the nineties, bro, every fucking stud is from

495
00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:38.400
like Alabama, Louisiana.

496
00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:40.839
Well, dude, because it's just different out there.

497
00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:43.839
Dude, Like like obviously Muhammad Ali, like the Louisville slugger,

498
00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:46.480
he has an accent that sounds like that. Scottie Pippens

499
00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:50.039
from that area. I think he's from Arkansas. Charles Barkley,

500
00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:52.680
I think is from Bama and he talks crazy Gambit

501
00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:58.240
Gambit is also from there. Gambit is from Yeah, Gambit

502
00:21:58.480 --> 00:22:01.240
is uh. But he he's kind of on the B team, really,

503
00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:03.079
if we're gonna break it down, he's not like a star.

504
00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:06.119
Yeah, gam, it's always the forefront of the of the cartoon.

505
00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:08.599
No, no, you got s you got fucking Cyclops, you

506
00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:10.759
got Wolverine, and the game is like kind of back

507
00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:14.799
left shoulder, old shoulders in his deck.

508
00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:20.119
Did you guys watch the X Men reboot show? It's

509
00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:22.319
so fucking good.

510
00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:23.440
That the New Spider Man is really good too.

511
00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:26.079
Yeah, that one's good. The X Men's ten times better though.

512
00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:29.640
His accents of steaks, his accents so good in the

513
00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:31.000
original cartoon.

514
00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:33.119
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

515
00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:35.400
And it's fucking hysterical in.

516
00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:38.640
A deadpooll, dead pull and Wolverine.

517
00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:40.960
Yeah, yeah, not bad. I don't know. I love that

518
00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:43.000
accent of all of them, just kind of they kind

519
00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:47.519
of like sing when they talk, you know, Yeah, I

520
00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:53.079
like it. Yeah, uhy. Vicky val.

521
00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:57.279
I probably two thousand and four, two thousand and five

522
00:22:57.400 --> 00:22:59.920
was the first Arnold that I went to, and when

523
00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:02.759
I I was on the way home, like getting on

524
00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:07.599
the plane because we flew through Dallas, which obviously you

525
00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:10.079
do if you're like flying American or whatever as American

526
00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:12.400
or United one of those big ones. Yeah, fls tough

527
00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:16.880
Dallas and Ronnie Coleman was in first class. He was

528
00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:20.079
not a year that he competed, and he was, you know,

529
00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:23.240
sitting I guess there were sort of two seats together

530
00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:26.640
instead of three. He was sitting on the aisle and

531
00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:31.440
like from his nipple on was out in the aisle.

532
00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:34.400
He's just so huge. I mean if he's three hundred

533
00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:37.359
on stage, yeah, you know off season. Yeah, he's probably

534
00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:39.720
three point thirty. And he's tall, but he's not that tall,

535
00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:42.359
you know, like he was tall for the time, but

536
00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:44.960
that's because fucking Jay Cutler's five six Yeah.

537
00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:51.640
Yeah, I mean the yeah, the Runnie we saw last year. Yeah,

538
00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:54.039
looked like me sitting on this Yeah, look like this.

539
00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:55.839
They looked like we sitting in this chair.

540
00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:56.359
Yeah.

541
00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:59.039
He's probably five seven, five eight, but I mean they

542
00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:00.880
probably just ripped are ripping discs.

543
00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:04.559
Oh he's all just completely squished. Yeah, he's all ye

544
00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:08.799
kind of like he was even smaller Skully in the documentary.

545
00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:09.599
Yeah, by a lot.

546
00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:16.720
Yeah. It was interesting to see him training with Jason

547
00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:18.519
English Big J.

548
00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:20.440
Yeah, shout out our boy big J. He actually literally

549
00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:23.039
commented on my Instagram this morning is so crazy I

550
00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:26.000
think that has the rustic Jim. No, so the owner

551
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:29.680
was Dobson. Yeah, the owners Dobson, but like the gray

552
00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:34.960
goatee training part of his Big J, I think a

553
00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:37.359
long time friend. Long they see they don't even like

554
00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:39.359
introduce him. I think they should call him like training partner.

555
00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:41.759
But I think Big J grew up in that world,

556
00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:44.119
was friends with Ronnie for a very long time, and

557
00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:47.200
kind of training partners after that Dobson, but he was

558
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:49.359
kind of one of the older cats that hopped onto

559
00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:52.279
YouTube early. So Big J did YouTube in like twenty eleven,

560
00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:55.599
twenty twelve, and so we've crossed past a million times.

561
00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:58.400
Podcasts of a million times. One of them really talk

562
00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:02.119
about positive. Big J's like sanely positive kind guy but

563
00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:05.880
from I think the Arlington, Dallas area, and still lives

564
00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:07.640
down there, so I think he's still Yeah, trains with

565
00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:11.319
him every day. Yeah, it's cool those cool ast he'd

566
00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:11.960
be J in there.

567
00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:17.960
Yeah. It's hard to know what else to say about

568
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:20.480
this thing because it's like a it's like an unfolding

569
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:21.880
tragedy with no end.

570
00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:25.079
Yeah, it is sad there's no because yeah, do you

571
00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:27.960
expect like a win at the end. Yeah, like he.

572
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:30.039
Comes out of surgery and he's good, or yeah, it's

573
00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:33.359
six months later and he's walking without, you know, braces

574
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:35.839
or whatever. I would say that it's smart that he

575
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:37.640
had a set at the top of the stairs and

576
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:39.119
set at the bottom of the stairs, but not the

577
00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:40.559
smartest moving out of that fucking house.

578
00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:42.359
Yeah, they're getting an elevator or something.

579
00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:45.799
Yeah, or yeah, one of those little like stair elevators.

580
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.119
They've sit on. We got a weight capacity issue the Yeah.

581
00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:50.240
He's not very big.

582
00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:52.000
Well, I bet you, I bet you. He's still like

583
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:53.880
two twenty. Do you see him again, whether put the

584
00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:56.400
note on his chest or whatever. His abs are fucking

585
00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:00.319
half this brick wall, Like he's still fucking brick Yeah,

586
00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.039
you know, like he's just different. And like when he

587
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:05.000
was a kid, bro, he looked like a bad motherfucker.

588
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:07.640
He had that fucking dope mustache and his arms were

589
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:09.799
fucking giant. He's like, yeah, he kind of played football.

590
00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:12.079
He said he sucked the powerlifting because he squatted four

591
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:12.880
hundred or something.

592
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:21.559
Yeah.

593
00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:23.920
Over the years, having had a YouTube channel for a

594
00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:30.240
long time with powerlifting or whatever and covering Stan Efforting

595
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.480
and some of the other folks along the way, Everyone

596
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:36.519
wants to talk about the fact that Ronnie squatted eight

597
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:41.279
hundred for two reps, but they never talk about the

598
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:43.599
fact that he was wearing a single play squad suit

599
00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:47.480
and he was not any we're close to depth.

600
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:50.079
The second rep is like you can maybe make an

601
00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:52.599
argument for yeah, the first rep you can't.

602
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.160
Well, he's clearly strong, you know because even when he's deadlifting,

603
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:56.640
he's doing like a set of five and he's got

604
00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:58.440
like try to do the math with these old ass

605
00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:01.440
restu plays. It's over seven thirty. You know, Like he's

606
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.920
clearly strong, and that is what made him popular, right

607
00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:08.400
Like like guys stopped lifting heavy, you know, like Ky

608
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:10.240
Green in particular, who is a little bit later, but

609
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:12.319
even Jay Cutler in them Jay lift a little bit,

610
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:14.480
but you know they'd be doing like three fifteen on

611
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:16.519
everything and they kind of stop there. You know, Like

612
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:20.759
there was more trends in bodybuilding than there are now,

613
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.319
Like everyone went to machines and then everyone and now

614
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:25.160
we're kind of like kind of like fashion where like

615
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:27.079
everything kind of goes you know, you can find your

616
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:29.960
niche now anywhere. But back then it was really strong,

617
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.559
and so I think when Ronnie was coming up or

618
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.559
like when he was even king, a lot of the guys, yeah,

619
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:38.039
were like machine bros.

620
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:40.799
Sam Soul looks like the modern day Ronnie Coleman.

621
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:42.880
Yeah kind of. Yeah, he is like the old school,

622
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:46.880
like still squat and shows the seabump. Sea Bump doesn't

623
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:49.200
get the love he deserves. But that fool will be

624
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:50.680
like front Squad and four hundred.

625
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:52.920
Yeah, and he'll do He'll just be racking up like

626
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.279
a barbell with like forty five doing like like just

627
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:58.119
free over it presses.

628
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:01.480
You know. I haven't cross with him yet, but like

629
00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:04.640
he he definitely seems like the good neutral in the space.

630
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:08.039
And again, like a lot of bodybuilders like are kind

631
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:10.079
of like boring, you know, no offense, Sea Bum buddy,

632
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:11.440
but like I think it has to be built in

633
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:13.599
your personality because powerlifters are the same, right, Like all

634
00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:16.079
the top guys we've interviewed over you know, over a

635
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.680
decade are like there's something in him that's a little

636
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:20.519
bit boring because the sport is boring. So you have

637
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:23.519
to like kind of enjoy this, you know, monotony in

638
00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:27.240
this thing. And it's like literally the most like static

639
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:30.400
sport ever, you know, because like basketball, you're talking shit,

640
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:32.200
and you're doing all this stuff, like the energy and

641
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:35.119
the humans different even like mixed martial artists. A lot

642
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:37.200
of the times you think they're all zen or whatever,

643
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:39.519
but I even just shut them up with Renado and

644
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:41.960
bart I trend with them this week on Renato's like

645
00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:44.400
top three jiu jitsu practitioners in the world in his

646
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:47.640
weight class, and he's like happy, go lucky, laughing, cracking jokes.

647
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:49.599
But it's because like he's a killer on the inside.

648
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:52.480
You know. We're like bodybuilders aren't killers, so they kind

649
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:55.079
of like the personality kind of flip flops where they

650
00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:57.839
are kind of like boring and have serial killer vibes,

651
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:00.200
although they're not a lot of bodybuilders very nice, but

652
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.200
then they just lift this monotony ass shit. But in

653
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:05.480
terms of training itself, I think Seabum is like a

654
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.880
really good neutral of how to do things, you know,

655
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:11.400
because he trains heavy, doesn't go too heavy. He doesn't

656
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.240
do anything like too extreme or too stupid, where guys

657
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.680
will find a niche or a gimmick obviously to get likes,

658
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.960
you know, like I only do machines or I only

659
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:24.480
do there's even like an old bend pack Bemakolsky was

660
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:25.680
kind of on to come up a couple of years

661
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.279
ago and bodybuilding, and it's like a whack YouTube thing

662
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:32.319
and they try to make him look like Drago, you know,

663
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:34.559
they have wires all over him when he trains only

664
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:36.680
and he only does machines and it's.

665
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:38.200
Got a full arm of what bands.

666
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:39.960
Yeah, literally, it was like that. I was like, I

667
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:41.400
don't know if he actually trains that way or not,

668
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:43.680
or they're just trying to like, you know, they're trying

669
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:48.160
to brand him that way. Yeah, like a Drago. Yeah. Literally,

670
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.960
it was weird. It was weird. Yeah, like the science guy.

671
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.519
You know. But this is before science, I guess was

672
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:57.160
cool or prominent and lifting it I think it is

673
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:02.240
in lifting. I definitely think like that's where because because

674
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:04.720
people don't understand what science is and they still whether

675
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:08.880
we're talking politics or fitness. Science is a very misunderstood concept,

676
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:10.920
I think, you know, because people say like, oh, well,

677
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:13.119
it's in science, and then they think that means it's fact,

678
00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:15.559
which it's not. That's not how science works, right, It's

679
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:19.519
about a procedure of how we deduct some reasoning from

680
00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:22.440
what we're doing. And so I think it is I

681
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:24.839
think everyone I follow on Instagram is always like, well,

682
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:29.559
the science of this and the science of that. Yeah,

683
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:30.200
you don't see that.

684
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:32.240
I don't really pay attention to it. I don't think.

685
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:35.440
I think.

686
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:37.200
I'm like, yeah, I just don't really, I don't know.

687
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.359
I don't see those ARGUMENT don't really weightlifting too, I'm

688
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:41.480
not really looking at that stuff.

689
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:44.200
Yeah, weightlifting, CrossFit, Yeah, I know what you're looking at.

690
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:48.720
I'll expose you, buddy, he said his Discovery page.

691
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:52.160
Mike's been getting my wrath.

692
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:53.000
Yeah, I was sick.

693
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:55.599
I was just sending Mike the most ratchet.

694
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:58.400
And are just down down in the depths of the internet.

695
00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:01.759
Yeah. Sure, my algorithm is pretty fry.

696
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:06.119
Just brain rotten now, just brain rutting away. But yeah,

697
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:07.039
I don't know what I say.

698
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:07.519
True.

699
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:10.759
Oh, I was gonna say, like crossfiting, Uh, weightlifting seem

700
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.200
like kind of ones that haven't like talked about science

701
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:15.000
are evolved now. It's like a community.

702
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:20.000
No, it's really they're both kind of vibes based, are

703
00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:22.359
you know what I mean? There's five based sports.

704
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.480
They gotta are like weightlifters kind of are the hippie

705
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:26.599
surfers of fitness.

706
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.160
Yeah, there's really not much like you can convince an

707
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:34.000
old weightlifting coach about like science and they tried that

708
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.599
that that those people came and gone already from the sport.

709
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:39.640
Yeah you know what I mean, like the super science

710
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.519
based coaches. It's like just like old school is going

711
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:46.000
to always win when it comes to weightlifting because it's

712
00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:49.759
just so there's only two lifts. There's only like there's

713
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:51.799
only so many ways to get better those lifts, and

714
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:53.319
it's just doing them all the time.

715
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:56.880
I would hypothesize that the science actually started it and

716
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.279
that's why it can't come back, right, Like the guys

717
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.680
are really made way lifting like good and popular were

718
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:04.160
like the old school Russians and Bulgarians who were very

719
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.240
like educated on they were already like a good.

720
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:07.960
Science, That's what I mean.

721
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:10.599
Like it wasn't like we're bodybuildings like oh I just

722
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:13.039
feel it, well, I don't know feeling it's gonna get

723
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:14.680
you there, you know, or like I E. Eight hundred

724
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:16.039
grams of protein, well I don't know about that.

725
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:17.079
It's better than conning.

726
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:20.000
Yeah, yeah, we're like weightlifting was like born in a

727
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:21.799
lab in a sense because the Russians were all over

728
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.000
there like they were the first exercise scientists on the planet.

729
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:27.119
Yeah, you look at those old like Russian uh manuals

730
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:28.039
that like everybody has.

731
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:28.880
Yeah, they're insane.

732
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:32.160
They're all super detailed for sure, of like science based

733
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:34.400
in the Chinese, and that's how they all start. Yeah,

734
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:35.680
I guess you're right. That's a way to look at it.

735
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:37.400
That's how it all started, and that's how it was

736
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.680
kind of never really needed to go anywherewhere else from there, because.

737
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:42.119
If someone tries to do it now, it's like do

738
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:42.839
we already know that?

739
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:44.200
Yeah, that's probably written.

740
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.599
Yeah, I think thirty powerlifting bodybuilding will get there soon. Now,

741
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:50.640
Like most powerlifters ninety percent trained the same way. Now

742
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.759
we're like ten years ago everyone trained a billion different

743
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:56.359
ways and had their own random mass hypothesis and what

744
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:58.880
would get them strong. But now like everyone kind of

745
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:00.680
has a general concept and a lot of it is

746
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:02.039
based on some Russian shit.

747
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:02.720
Yeah.

748
00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:05.079
So one of the elephants in the room in this,

749
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:09.079
in this documentary and in real life before this is

750
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:11.720
the fact that he was a cop and yet clearly

751
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:15.359
clearly on steroids. Yeah, like there's no way he wasn't.

752
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:18.359
Like he obviously he trained his ass off all the

753
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:21.160
time and that's that's the given, that's the baseline. You're

754
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:24.160
not gonna you're not going to compete in in bodybuilding

755
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:26.920
if you don't you know, you don't train for it.

756
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:32.039
But at the same time, how do you reconcile those things?

757
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:33.640
Yeah, man, I just don't think they drug test.

758
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:35.720
Yeah, I was gona say, it's pbably department by department, right,

759
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:38.000
And I know we only lived in Florida in Dallas,

760
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:40.799
although they showed footage from Florida, I'm almost sure, but

761
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:42.960
they never like talked about it. Yeah, he always talked

762
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:44.880
about being on the same being a cop for ten

763
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:46.519
years or whatever, but he I think he was with

764
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:48.559
two different departments at some point because I know we

765
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:51.599
lived in Florida, and I thought that exercise room was

766
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:53.640
in Florida. But it could be a mis memory on

767
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:58.279
my part. So obviously lived in Texas and Florida, which again, yeah,

768
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.440
you know, who knows, but chances are they're probably testing

769
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:03.680
for weed and cocaine and just ignore that.

770
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:05.640
I think, like I think the way that that ship works,

771
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:07.559
I was like, dude, you get drug tested like when

772
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:09.159
you get hired, and like that's kind of it.

773
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:11.039
Yeah, military has always said the same thing.

774
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:13.239
All of those cops had that. You know, there's a

775
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:14.280
lot of cops had party.

776
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:15.320
I know.

777
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:18.719
Also, like there's probably every cop under the sun is

778
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:21.280
probably on TRT at some point too. Yeah, it's like

779
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:24.800
get like a you know subscription. Oh he's on TRT.

780
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:27.280
You know that. Yeah, nowadays for sure, but back then

781
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:28.679
it would steroids were a.

782
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:29.559
Lot more taboo.

783
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:33.679
Yeah, we're you know, Gemini's personal experience and just friends forever.

784
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:37.440
Because military guys policemen often find their way into powerlifting

785
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:38.960
a bodybuilding. You know, it's just like kind of a

786
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:43.360
natural thing, and so many people would always tell us like, oh,

787
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.360
I can't be on anything because I get tested here

788
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:47.079
at this job or this job. I'm like, I don't

789
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:48.880
know if you do. I think they just started to

790
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.320
use it as an escape to either claim natty when

791
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:56.039
they were on, or a mental morality thing to argue

792
00:34:56.079 --> 00:35:00.679
why they shouldn't get on because yeah, like I don't know, man,

793
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:03.760
I've never been in the military, and my family's all immigrants,

794
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:05.360
so we don't have like, you know, everyone's got like

795
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.000
an uncle that was a fucking sniper or some shit.

796
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.480
I don't have any of the actual immigrants, but I'd

797
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.119
imagine if I'm running a platoon, I want my dude's

798
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:14.320
juice to the gills, Like I want you raging out

799
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.159
and as fit as possible, right, Like it's not you know,

800
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:21.400
Captain America is our fucking American superhero who got the seerum? Like,

801
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.880
why don't I want my whole platoon with a fucking serum?

802
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:27.400
Yeah, i'd say that he was eating one thousand grams

803
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:28.119
of carbs a day.

804
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:29.960
I believe it. Bro to he used to do a

805
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.480
full baking trait of French fries and just get a

806
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:33.199
fork full.

807
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:35.679
That sounds so good right now, or like the iye hop.

808
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:37.880
Bro First he's eating sausage and then like all of

809
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.000
a sudden, there's a whole like two other plates in front.

810
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:41.639
Of them, two other plates of pacag ude, a full.

811
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:46.000
Thing of pancakes at fucking I hop what's the cirrus?

812
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:49.000
What's that? That's probably three hundred carbs, Yeah, that's true,

813
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:49.559
maybe more.

814
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:52.960
Yeah, it's said anywhere from uh yeah said average six hundred,

815
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.360
anyway from one hundred to one thousand, depending on a

816
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:56.159
cut or whatever.

817
00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:56.599
Yeah.

818
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:02.400
So this is the Last to Die documentary. Probably won't

819
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:07.119
maybe not be another one from twenty eighteen. So there's

820
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:09.960
the first training video in ninety eight, two thousand, The

821
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:14.280
Unbelievable two thousand and three, The Cost of Redemption Number

822
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:19.280
two thousand and six, Relentless two thousand and eight, Invincible,

823
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:23.159
Hell of Movies on. He'd been vinced. But by that

824
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:27.039
point though, in two thousand and nine, the last training video.

825
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.079
He lost to No. Six, I think it said two Cutler.

826
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:31.519
Yeah, No, that was later.

827
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:33.519
I thought, I don't know. I thought it was it no,

828
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:35.760
because I think his first win was like ninety six, right,

829
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:37.159
and so if he won eight, I.

830
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:39.159
Guess right, their second. Yeah, that's where it all started.

831
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:42.599
After the two thousand and five Yeah, all right there,

832
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:44.400
two thousand and six, Yeah, second, that was it. You're

833
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:44.800
right in the No.

834
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:48.280
Seven. How funny is it? Like he was like still

835
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:50.440
a multimillionaires so big, but like in high school, I

836
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.440
never heard of him and I lifted weights.

837
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:55.079
Arnold you just knew Arnold, Yeah, you.

838
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:58.039
Knew Arnold only and she like really dig in.

839
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:03.920
He obviously said a few things that are now in

840
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.320
the culture, and some people just don't have any idea

841
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:09.000
where they come from. The yeah, buddy, oh yeaheah, yeah,

842
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:10.039
ain't nothing but a peanut.

843
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:13.039
We talked about going overseas was a kay green. Yeah,

844
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:14.840
he said, like they couldn't even speak my language above.

845
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:16.639
I said, yeah, buddy, they're laughing and they're about it.

846
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:17.480
It's just pretty cool.

847
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:22.280
Yeah, not surprising he was. He was five eleven before

848
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:23.039
the shrink started.

849
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:24.440
Sounds about right.

850
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:25.320
That sounds about right.

851
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:28.039
And again, if you know the average guy, the Dexter Jackson's,

852
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:32.480
the Jay Cutler's Ky Green. Yeah, they're five to seven. Yeah,

853
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:34.199
a lot of them are five to seven. And that's

854
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:36.000
what kind of changed with the classic body building too,

855
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.760
because I think Arnold was five eleven six foot so

856
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:41.199
then like you get sea Bomb at six one, it

857
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:43.159
just makes your frame look a little bit different.

858
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:44.719
You know, you got to get so big you have

859
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:45.719
three pounds.

860
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.519
Yeah, and what's what's fucking seabomb on stage to forty

861
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:50.119
to thirty?

862
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:51.280
No clue?

863
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.000
Yeah, I think he's like two thirty, right, So that

864
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:57.760
is like the more classic, like the Zaane the fucking yeah,

865
00:37:57.800 --> 00:37:58.760
the Mike Metzger type.

866
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:03.159
Look, I mean he'd be probably a pretty shitty cough.

867
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:05.679
I mean you just run away from him. Yeah, he's

868
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:06.599
not gonna catch you.

869
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:07.320
He's i don't know.

870
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:09.880
I don't know, bro, Dude, he's not going anywhere. He's

871
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:12.360
just gonna be legs chafing together.

872
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.119
And you would do like sets of like twenty each

873
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:17.760
leg two twenty five lunges on your back like that

874
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:19.719
gets your lungs going. I bet you he had more

875
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:20.239
gas than.

876
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:23.199
You dig probably yeah, probably like six inch squads.

877
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:24.840
He was starting a fire in his pants.

878
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:27.599
Could only pump so much oxygen to those muscles.

879
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.400
Yeah, but it's different than like powerlifters and weightlifters, where

880
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:34.079
we just ignore cardio, like they couldn't ignore cardio, like

881
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:36.480
they had to get shredded, like bodybuilders in general. Like

882
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:39.639
I don't know, I don't know. I'd probably rather run

883
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:42.480
away from like no offense, buddy, But Dan Bell, you know,

884
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:44.599
the best powerlift in the world right now than run

885
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:47.039
away from Ronnie Like Dan hasn't gone for a walk.

886
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:49.880
You know that dude, squat's twelve hundred pounds and that's it.

887
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:52.880
That's what he doesn't really good or Tom callous when

888
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.599
he's fat, Like I would definitely rather run away, even

889
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:57.679
though shout out Tom got jack out of his brains

890
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:02.159
right now, he looks insane, but fat short legs though. Yeah,

891
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:04.679
little hobbit Tom, I'm running away from that dude a

892
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.639
hundred times Before'm running away from Ronnie. Ronny play college

893
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.639
football too. Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't talk like he

894
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:13.679
didn't go anywhere with that, Like there's no way. Maybe

895
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:16.320
that's the dog in him and he didn't have I left.

896
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.199
How Also, just back then, it was so common for

897
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:20.719
people to have these crazy degrees just working in fast food.

898
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.000
Yeah. Yeah, he couldn't get a job. I mean that's

899
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:24.119
now too, probably racy.

900
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:28.000
That's now he went to Grambling, his degrees from Grambling.

901
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:31.559
That may have had something to do with it. Yeah,

902
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:32.760
I don't know.

903
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:36.079
I think it's common now though. Really, how many homies

904
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:39.480
we have, like in fucking seven to twenty fifteen, went

905
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:40.960
to college, got a degree, he can't get a job.

906
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:44.119
Well, most of my friends have these fucking the stupidest

907
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:46.800
fucking degrees. You can ever imagine two hundred three thousand

908
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:48.559
dollars in debt and then they're working at for the

909
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:50.039
state and it's like, what do you what?

910
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:52.639
And that's probably because they tried to go get other

911
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:54.440
jobs and couldn't in the state's a place at hires.

912
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:55.960
Yeah, well, I have a friend that has like a

913
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:58.760
fucking art degree that he paid like six figures for

914
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.000
and I'm like, yeah, dude, I don't feel bad for

915
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:02.280
you at all. You're a fucking moron.

916
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:06.280
We we can, we could really go down the rabbit

917
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:10.159
hole on the issue of what kinds of degrees that

918
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:14.400
people should be offered by universities, because I think that

919
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:18.519
we could probably cut some of those. And just like

920
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:20.719
I don't know why. I mean, I'm going to piss

921
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.480
off the audience right now, but I don't understand kinesiology degrees.

922
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:24.480
I don't understand at all, Like.

923
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:26.480
What's kind of We don't have good exercise degrees?

924
00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:28.960
Yeah, like the what kind of job do you think

925
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:29.920
you're going to get with that?

926
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:32.880
You're a pe teacher? Yeah, which is important, but I

927
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:33.719
guess that's about it.

928
00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:36.079
You definitely have to have that TP.

929
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:38.719
It's the first it's like the only step to get

930
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.719
into like yeah, strength conditioning, it's the only step to

931
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:44.239
get into. Like I just want to see that physical

932
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:47.639
trainers or or or undergrad for like physical therapy. But

933
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:50.159
why not. I Mean, the whole degree system is fucked

934
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:52.519
and we've talked about it forever, like They're like, all

935
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:54.760
four year degrees are just kind of stupid because they're

936
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:56.239
actually need to we just need.

937
00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:59.239
To modernize with the rest of the world and cut

938
00:40:59.280 --> 00:40:59.920
out all the bulls.

939
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:01.960
Yeah, they're not specialized enough. A four year degree is

940
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:04.159
actually a two year degree because two years is general

941
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:06.719
you're repeating high school, and then two years you're doing

942
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:08.679
what your job is. That's why your last.

943
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:11.400
Two years of high school should be that general education.

944
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:14.840
Right and then and then like, yeah, have like a

945
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:17.280
real three year degree that it's specialized. Oh, he's going

946
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:18.960
to be a strength conditioning coach. He's going to be

947
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:21.599
a physical therapist. He's gonna be whatever or more years.

948
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:26.239
Trade school, yeah, trade school for like yeah, it all's

949
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:29.000
just makes no sense even him. Right, he's in there.

950
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:32.480
What was he taking business or management, marketing or something like? Well,

951
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:34.960
you're real good with math. I'm real good with math,

952
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:38.519
so I can marry Vicky Vallen call.

953
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:46.719
Accounting just the accents, bro, Now, mama, brush your hat.

954
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:49.840
Having thing is a devil to you.

955
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:50.360
Mama.

956
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:57.000
Oh, mister Sandler, such a good movie. I was watching,

957
00:41:57.119 --> 00:41:59.400
uh watch McCall for the first time ever. A beautiful mind.

958
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:01.599
Oh to that movie is crazy.

959
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:05.519
Yeah, crazy. Is that in the Louisiana too, No, that's Princeton,

960
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:09.719
New Jersey, Massachusetts. Yeah, I don't know, random, I mean

961
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:12.400
he went everywhere mt I or m I T. Yeah,

962
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:14.599
I don't know why I watched it because I'm down

963
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.599
the bitcoin rabbit hole, you know, and he's he's mentioned

964
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:19.480
many times see like event to game theory.

965
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:25.800
Yeah, so I don't know what. I don't know really, Yeah,

966
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:28.559
I guess the point besides like his like downfall.

967
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:30.360
Is like this whole namentory. Yeah, maybe to try to

968
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.559
wrap it up. But yeah, it did seem kind of

969
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:35.159
like like whatever they call it, like torture porn, Like

970
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:36.880
you just wanted to like see him like in pain.

971
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.159
It definitely had a torture porn feeling to it, like

972
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:43.719
especially since there's no there's no redemption at the end.

973
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:45.719
And I guess I'm reading the Wikipedia like he's just

974
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:46.920
in a wheelchair.

975
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:48.360
Yeah, like I think he was when we saw him,

976
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:50.119
was just rolling.

977
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:50.960
No, he was in a wheelchair.

978
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:53.480
Yeah, and that was last year or last spring.

979
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:55.840
Yeah, last spring. He looked like he weighed probably like

980
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:56.840
a buck eighty five.

981
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:59.079
Yeah maybe, yeah, maybe.

982
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:01.360
Like his arm were not like his arms were skinny.

983
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:02.400
He was there with this company.

984
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:05.519
He's out there fucking grinding. He was grinding as his

985
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:07.880
booth there was there was the only line for anything

986
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:09.599
at that entire event without that booth.

987
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:11.320
But then, yeah, but then what do you call it too,

988
00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:14.679
you know, health and money, like when you stopped touring.

989
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:18.000
Yeah, I don't know. That's a really good question.

990
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:18.199
VI.

991
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:24.320
Yeah, we think about it in terms of the way

992
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:27.400
the other guys were talking about how whatever they did,

993
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.360
he just fucking won, and he would he would go

994
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.599
into the lymp with the expectation he was going to

995
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.599
win kind of regardless of how he looked. And you

996
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:39.760
think about how that's an ego thing for sure that

997
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:42.119
it's like, oh, I can this is what I'm doing,

998
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:44.880
and this is what I'm known for, and I'm going

999
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:47.760
to win because I showed up kind of and I

1000
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:50.920
mean not with not necessarily with that level of entitlement,

1001
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:53.559
but whatever. You know, it's like, this is this is

1002
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:55.400
kind of what I'm about. And I think that the

1003
00:43:56.599 --> 00:44:00.760
the touring and the doing, the doing exposed and stuff

1004
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:02.199
like that, it's like, well, this is who I am.

1005
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:03.719
Like if I don't do this, so what I'm gonna do?

1006
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:05.480
What am I gonna do the identity.

1007
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:09.039
Most athletes go through it because the sport stops you

1008
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:13.079
from playing right, Like every major sport, either you're gonna

1009
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.119
get injured and stop, or there's gonna be a coach

1010
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:16.719
that tells you you're not good enough at some point,

1011
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:19.840
whether that be eighth grade, varsity level college, or pro.

1012
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.679
At some point you're done and they tell you that.

1013
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.079
And so then when you like bounce around, the jobs

1014
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:28.400
are so varied, right, Like you end up announcing like

1015
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:30.599
Tom Brady or something, right, but that's such a different job,

1016
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:33.599
Like your identity isn't tied into that stuff. He wanted

1017
00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:37.039
to still be a part of the sport where Ronnie's

1018
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.239
like identity might be so tied and no one tells

1019
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:41.519
you to stop powerlifting your body building, Yeah you too,

1020
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:43.800
Like yeah you could not win, but you can still

1021
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:45.559
keep going. He could have got prep, probably could have

1022
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:47.599
got top five for another five years if he wanted

1023
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:50.079
to when it could go. And so then maybe maybe

1024
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:54.639
he hasn't like crossed that bridge of this aint, you know,

1025
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:56.920
next chapter, like just go do some just go do

1026
00:44:57.039 --> 00:45:00.159
something fucking else, like go fucking golf for like, do

1027
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.880
you fucking anything, you know, do you think he's.

1028
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:04.519
Paying for these surgeries like out of pocket or do

1029
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:05.960
you think these are all through insurance?

1030
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:07.519
Oh, that's a really good question.

1031
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:09.039
I mean I would assume maybe he's got like maybe

1032
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:11.440
his company's like a corporation that he's an employee of,

1033
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:12.719
so he gets insurance maybe.

1034
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:14.760
But I mean also, he said his company did like

1035
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:16.960
twenty mil in the third year, so he might have

1036
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:17.599
the cash for it.

1037
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:21.880
Possibly. You know, there's a huge difference between how much money.

1038
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:25.000
You Yeah, for sure, margins can, but supplement margins are

1039
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:27.000
pretty damn good. Yeah, Tip, you're making twenty MILLI you're

1040
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:29.280
probably doing decent. Typically, Yeah, they're making any He had

1041
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:31.039
money before. I mean every I think every Olympia is

1042
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:33.199
half a mill to a meal. Imagine the people that

1043
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:35.519
sponsored him before. That's half a mill to a mill.

1044
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:35.800
Yeah.

1045
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:38.280
Ten year, he had like a ten year career of

1046
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.440
being an athlete where he made multiple millions.

1047
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:42.519
He made money. He made enough money in that career

1048
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:45.800
where he's done. If handled correctly, he would never have

1049
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:47.920
to do anything ever again. At alt have stopped now.

1050
00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:50.760
He could have handled it okay and would be retired,

1051
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:53.079
you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, if he handled

1052
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:55.159
that money even seons some accountant, so he knows how

1053
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:56.000
to work with money.

1054
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:57.320
But that's probably why he lives in the house you're

1055
00:45:57.360 --> 00:45:57.800
making fun of.

1056
00:45:58.320 --> 00:45:59.840
Yeah, he's probably like I don't got a house payment?

1057
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:03.320
Yeah, probably, who knows. Yeah, he doesn't talk about investments

1058
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:04.960
and ship, but maybe he has something if he really was.

1059
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:06.800
I feel they might have, she might have. I could

1060
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:08.760
be making this up entirely, but I feel like there

1061
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:10.559
was a point mentioned where someone said the house was

1062
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:10.960
paid off.

1063
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:13.719
Yeah. Yeah, oh he paid cash for you after his

1064
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:17.599
second Olympia. Yeah, okay, one over his first one. Yeah,

1065
00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:22.159
it cost bro in nineteen eighty six. If that's in Dallas,

1066
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:24.760
that house cost one hundred k or less. Yeah, literally

1067
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:26.480
less than a hundred k. And I think at the

1068
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:28.000
point Olympia made half a mill.

1069
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:30.880
I like how the house is also just a complete mess.

1070
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:33.559
Bro, You got fucking kids everywhere? You got eight kids.

1071
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:36.880
I ain't cleaning my house if I got eight.

1072
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:38.639
Kiss His new youngest kids were cute.

1073
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:40.239
Yeah, they're funny, they were cute kids.

1074
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:43.000
They did I know that age. Man, he's not wrong.

1075
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:46.920
They just don't stop. Yeah, they just don't stop. They

1076
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:48.840
just don't stop. And he's just trying his best to

1077
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:49.960
keep up with his little crushes.

1078
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:52.559
He does seem happy though pushing them. He does seem

1079
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:54.239
happy around his kids, and that's what you know. His

1080
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:56.039
wife even said that they both just love kids, so

1081
00:46:56.119 --> 00:46:56.719
they just kept that.

1082
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:59.840
He's also just you know, he's also takes five oxy

1083
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:01.079
thirty milligram OxyS.

1084
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:03.360
Yeah, he was not he was not timid about the use.

1085
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:06.079
That was interesting. He said about the sest one.

1086
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:09.840
Yeah, they gave me these oxy cars thirty milligrams. I

1087
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:10.840
take about five a day.

1088
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:11.519
It's the highest.

1089
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:16.480
Huh. Took one of those. They would to move, we

1090
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:17.000
have to.

1091
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:19.199
We'd have a panic, bro and then cut seed. He's

1092
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:21.360
driving no seat belt with his kids on his cards.

1093
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:24.519
Fucking crack down, druck down.

1094
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:32.480
Oh god, yeah, Ronnie texas living all right.

1095
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:36.239
We should probably weigh in on this one.

1096
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:42.599
Side note really quick after this turned off, it's just

1097
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:45.320
playing this Jake the Snake documentary that was on there.

1098
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:48.119
Oh yeah, that's what started. And it was the darkest

1099
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:52.400
fucking thing was out. Dude. I had to turn it off.

1100
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:54.679
I was like, dude, this is way too fucking sad.

1101
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:55.920
I got to turn this off.

1102
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:57.280
You guys on Amazon Prime.

1103
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.320
Yeah, yeah, they just started playing automatically. And then I

1104
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:01.400
woke up in the middle of the night because I

1105
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:03.559
think I fell asleep during the Jake Snake and then

1106
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:05.440
I woke up in the night and it's just Anthony

1107
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:09.519
Hopkins movie about like wartorcycles I do miss He's like

1108
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:12.039
racing like in the Salt Flats. I don't like.

1109
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:13.280
I was like, what is this?

1110
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:14.559
I missed that from TV?

1111
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:15.559
I could have dreamed that.

1112
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:18.840
I don't know, just wrote your first script.

1113
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:23.079
I think it has to be real. But it was

1114
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:26.280
about Yeah, it was weird and he was older, and

1115
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:29.159
I'm like, I've never heard of this movie anyways.

1116
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:31.079
Oh, that's that's alright crazy.

1117
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:32.639
I was side quest.

1118
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:35.159
Yeah, that's crazy.

1119
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:39.480
All right, since this had a certain darkness to it.

1120
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:46.039
So I'm gonna go crutches, how many crutches? How many crutches?

1121
00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:52.199
Hairs? I think I gave Brian a two to two.

1122
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.760
We gave Rich two or a one seven.

1123
00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:57.159
My richest score was higher.

1124
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:02.239
I gotta give this at least like a We're always

1125
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:04.119
out of five, right, Yeah, I'll give it like a

1126
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:06.719
two eight. You know, if you like bodybuilding and you

1127
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:08.760
grew up with Ronnie or don't know, who Ronnie is.

1128
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:12.159
You know, it's something Yeah, let's say two eight, not

1129
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:15.079
not above a three, above a three something like a

1130
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:18.079
bee in my mind, right, Yeah, So like a bee,

1131
00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:20.239
I would at least rewatch. I'm probably not going to

1132
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:22.840
rewatch this guy, kind of saying with his old ones

1133
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:25.679
though too, his old boring vog ones. They're like a

1134
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.400
one watch get the feel for it, and they're cool,

1135
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.440
but you're probably never going to rewatch them. You know,

1136
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:32.440
he's just riding a bike, playing like pac Man all

1137
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:35.840
morning and shit. But yeah, probably two eight.

1138
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:40.440
Yeah, two and a half. Yeah, I'll say it's a

1139
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:41.559
one and done crutches.

1140
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:46.519
If you are a giant bodybuilding fan, yeah, of this

1141
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:50.159
particular era, a giant Ronnie Coleman fan, you would probably

1142
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.840
rank it higher because there's a there's you know, just

1143
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:54.599
a lot of obviously a lot of footage of him,

1144
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:56.039
but a lot of footage of him in pain. And

1145
00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:59.079
maybe you're you know, maybe the empathy part of it

1146
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:01.840
plays for you or whatever, or it's just there, you

1147
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:04.159
know kind of My my gripe is that we don't

1148
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:04.960
really learn much.

1149
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.440
Yeah, and the family I think the family man is

1150
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:09.199
the only thing you really learned because all the other

1151
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:12.079
stuff so bodybuilding focused, so like it's kind of cool

1152
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:13.760
to see him with his kids and how happy he is.

1153
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:15.800
That kind of like a bright side. But I agree

1154
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:17.280
you don't like there's no new sauce.

1155
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:19.760
No, I mean, I like, I think you touched on

1156
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:21.440
it a bit earlier. I like I would have been

1157
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:24.639
curious about how the business part of it developed and how,

1158
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:25.679
like how.

1159
00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:27.880
Go into the warehouse, do you like talk about the

1160
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:29.639
products that they're you know, do all.

1161
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:33.039
That, and and just like who who started it and how?

1162
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:35.679
And I mean did somebody approach him? Did he approach somebody?

1163
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:37.920
What was the show him at the trade show, show

1164
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:39.400
him at the doing shooting.

1165
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:43.360
He was a BSN guy. I think most was his career.

1166
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:46.920
I think he was a cell you core, No, that's muscle.

1167
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:48.920
I mean what would that cell mass BSN member that

1168
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:52.519
I know, I took many of ships and was sell mask?

1169
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:53.400
What was cell mass?

1170
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:57.960
Why were we taking mix? Creating mix? Was it pounded it?

1171
00:50:58.159 --> 00:50:59.719
I remember I would just sit in my fucking I

1172
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:03.480
had one of those like bench that also can convert

1173
00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:05.559
into other like things, like you know, like uh, it's

1174
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:07.360
a transress transformer bench press.

1175
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.480
You know, the optimist, get it like dicks right, And.

1176
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:12.960
I remember I would be fucking I would take a

1177
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:15.440
fucking shitload of O Explode and sell masks, and I'd

1178
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:17.360
just be sitting there just staring at the carpet, like

1179
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:18.519
thirteen years old.

1180
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:22.679
Oh my god. I didn't take any of that until

1181
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:23.239
I was like twenty.

1182
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:24.639
No, I was, yeah, I think I was like, yeah,

1183
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:26.400
probably freshman sophomore high school.

1184
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:28.519
It was common because I worked out with like a

1185
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:30.880
lot of like public school kids and it explode.

1186
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:34.280
Did anything taste worse than in it? You know, explode?

1187
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:34.360
No?

1188
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:36.119
It was so it was so bad.

1189
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:37.159
It was so doctor but it.

1190
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:41.239
Kind of like a kind of like it kind of

1191
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:43.079
like made me feel like it was working because it

1192
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:45.280
was bad, Like if it tastes delicious now I'm just

1193
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:48.039
having a Coca Colas, Like yeah, you're like, oh, this

1194
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:51.000
is gonna give me fucking jacked because it tastes like medicine.

1195
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.119
It was all so chocky, but it was kind of bubbly.

1196
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:54.280
It wasn't like it.

1197
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:56.000
Wasn't like, you know, you take a scoop now it's

1198
00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:57.679
all light and like it was like you had to

1199
00:51:57.719 --> 00:51:58.679
like broll.

1200
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:00.960
I didn't even know if like shape shaker cups were

1201
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:03.880
a thing when I started. Either I got free plastic

1202
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.519
like think of almost like a soda thing you'd get

1203
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:09.519
at like a movie, you know, but it had a

1204
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:12.760
screw top, like the cheapest plastic ever, and you're just

1205
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:14.920
shaking that thing. You shake it too much, the lid's

1206
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:18.119
gonna explode. But there's no like normal ass they.

1207
00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:21.119
Had, like they kind of had like the honeycomb like

1208
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:22.920
insert you see.

1209
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:23.880
I don't even know if I had that.

1210
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:28.039
Oh, like the world. It was basically supposed to stop

1211
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:29.960
the chunks. Yeah yeah, but no way right, but it

1212
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:32.440
wasn't really didn't really do anything. No, there was there

1213
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:35.079
was a good feeling of yeah, you shit automatically. Then

1214
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.519
it explode was so strong. I should not have been

1215
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:38.480
taking all that stuff.

1216
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:42.559
Just as an aside, we were kind of on it earlier.

1217
00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:45.760
Is Tom Brady just all filler.

1218
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:48.360
Now like it was also his fillers like migrating, because

1219
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:52.719
that's what happened his looks. Yeah, commentary, we're starting we're

1220
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:55.320
starting to see all these people that got filler like

1221
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:57.760
ten years ago, and we're now it's like before we

1222
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:00.280
knew like what happens now it starts to Mike great

1223
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:02.119
to other parts of your face? Is he single and

1224
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:03.960
you can't really do anything about it? You can get

1225
00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:05.960
like shots to get it to go away, but it

1226
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:07.320
fucking destroys your face?

1227
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:09.480
Is he single? On wondering maybe he's still trying to

1228
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:10.599
I mean he's I don't know.

1229
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:13.559
It just probably just plowing through the fucking I think

1230
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:16.800
he's plowed for thirty years. Yeah, I think so.

1231
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:19.760
Yeah, probably he's.

1232
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:22.480
Married for some of that time. That doesn't stop yeah

1233
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:24.440
yet you know yeh yeah yeah yeah yeah.

1234
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:28.360
Pro athletes, yeah yeah, they be plowing. Yeah, this is

1235
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:29.840
probably just just proud plowing.

1236
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:30.159
Still.

1237
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:31.519
Well, I was just wondering why he's trying to look

1238
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:32.800
so pretty. I mean he's on TV.

1239
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:35.599
Well, it's just what they do. Yeah, I mean I

1240
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:38.000
don't think this whole entire personality though, was based around

1241
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:41.119
his looks. Yeah, which is so funny outside of the game, right,

1242
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:41.760
I can't.

1243
00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:43.280
Say that he had anything to say that was important

1244
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:43.760
all this.

1245
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:45.719
Some people love him. I don't love him. As a

1246
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:47.079
comment it's common. I think it's fine.

1247
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:49.079
It's commentating, very base level.

1248
00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:51.559
I think it's fine. Some people love it, but it's

1249
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:53.440
I think it's even a podcast like hearing thing.

1250
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:55.039
It's like hearing fucking Brady's voice.

1251
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:57.519
No, Bro, the Manning Brothers and Bilichick on like the

1252
00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:00.400
podcast or something are way better. Oh they're fucking they're

1253
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:02.440
so good. I had a weird dream. Talking about weird

1254
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:04.039
dreams or not dreams, I had a dream I was

1255
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:05.639
with the Manning Brothers a couple of weeks ago. I

1256
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:07.480
never remember my dreams. I'm just kicking it with the

1257
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.199
Manning Brothers aisode dope in a sauna, you know. No,

1258
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:11.679
we were like on a field, like I was at

1259
00:54:11.719 --> 00:54:13.119
like an event. I don't know what we're doing. We're

1260
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:16.400
playing catching ship, just shooting the ship. I only dreams.

1261
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:18.079
I really remember the ones. If I wake up at

1262
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:19.599
like five or six in the morning and I go

1263
00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:22.239
back to sleep, those ones I remember for sure. And

1264
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:25.239
then Hopkins is just screaming down the streetway Hopkins is

1265
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:29.000
just hauling asking the sand on a fucking modified.

1266
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:33.639
Star Wars A lot of Star Wars by Dean's script,

1267
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:37.559
somewhere between like a Western and Dune.

1268
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.480
This was a real movie. He falls off the bike

1269
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:41.679
and everybody laughs at him.

1270
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:42.440
Oh my god.

1271
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:44.400
All right, so I gotta find this. I gotta find

1272
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:45.320
this Anthony.

1273
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:46.440
Hopkins Motorcycle Movie.

1274
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:53.239
Yeah, this one was definitely just a sad, a sad

1275
00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:56.440
chain of events. It also just like makes you not

1276
00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:58.000
want to, uh work out.

1277
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:01.559
Well, he kind of did, like do working out justice.

1278
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:03.920
He didn't say like, hey, this doesn't have to be you.

1279
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:06.280
I had some genetic stuff or like you know, because

1280
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:08.320
now everyone that watches this is never gonna squad again.

1281
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:09.239
Oh.

1282
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:11.400
It makes you look at all the rest of them back.

1283
00:55:11.719 --> 00:55:13.639
All the rest of them look healthy as shit. Color

1284
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:16.079
looks great. He's only like seven years younger. Color look

1285
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:18.159
hella healthy. And I've seen him in person. Yeah, he looks.

1286
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.519
Color looks great. All the guys look great. Kay. Green

1287
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:23.440
looks insanely healthy, and he's probably ten years younger.

1288
00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:27.599
Flex had just gotten healthy again, like right before the shot.

1289
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:29.840
I mean he lost a leg even right like Flex

1290
00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:30.400
has gone.

1291
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:31.960
Through its leg.

1292
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:35.480
Yeah yeah, yeah, but how did that happen. I don't

1293
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:37.760
know those diabetes or drug I don't know this story.

1294
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:40.360
There's stuff going on though. He had an infection at

1295
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:40.960
some point too.

1296
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:42.880
He looks jacked in his seat.

1297
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:45.159
Yeah, Flex. Flex has had a lot of health issues

1298
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:46.440
over the last like eight years.

1299
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:54.800
It's not a collide we're searching for when Anthony Hopkins

1300
00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:58.760
went to the desert on a bike on a motorbike?

1301
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:01.960
Are we in chronological?

1302
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:05.280
Uh? Yeah? Is it old?

1303
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:08.920
It wasn't like super You gotta think about Amazon Prime.

1304
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:14.320
It's probably a shit movie we've never heard of. Potentially, yeh, slipstream,

1305
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:15.760
he could be screamed way.

1306
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:17.079
I think I would think we were just coming up

1307
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:20.280
on it. I think, what's that one fractured? Even the

1308
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:21.480
world's fastest Indian?

1309
00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:23.840
Oh, that's it?

1310
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:24.519
Oh, that's it.

1311
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:26.239
Was it about Indian bikes?

1312
00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:28.320
Maybe there was about motorcycles. That's got to be it,

1313
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:31.800
because the whole thing was leading up to him being uh.

1314
00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:37.719
Burt Monroe taking it to the New Zealand. We've got

1315
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:41.320
the land speed record. Look, man, you're not crazy. There

1316
00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:42.880
there is insane man.

1317
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:47.599
There's the him kind of building it out. Yeah, he's

1318
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:48.280
cutting the tires.

1319
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:51.320
Yeah, that's its als last nineteen sixty seven, right on

1320
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:51.760
the nose.

1321
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:57.440
Okay, so it exists, all right? So yeah, so Dean's

1322
00:56:57.440 --> 00:56:58.360
gonna write the updates.

1323
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:01.599
Script two. What did's a year?

1324
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:02.000
Did say?

1325
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:02.920
Two thousand and five?

1326
00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:05.360
Wow? Yeah, two thousand and five. It's time for a reboot.

1327
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:08.360
It's time for a reboot.

1328
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:12.199
Well, we we're we're in the reboot era.

1329
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:16.280
He's been old for a long time. Huh, yeah, it happens.

1330
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:20.199
It have Diane Ladds in this movie and almost nobody

1331
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:27.920
else I recognize. All right, anyway, anyways, thanks for hanging

1332
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:28.199
with us.

1333
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:29.920
You got your rating, Jim, did you give official?

1334
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:30.199
Oh?

1335
00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:31.880
Yeah, two and a half, two and a half, two

1336
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:32.199
and a half.

1337
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:36.199
I agreed with Dean. Agreed with Dean. Al right, Dean,

1338
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:37.880
where people can Where can people find you?

1339
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:40.639
Yeah, happened to kilos at Dean Stores. That'sk What do

1340
00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:41.719
we got next? C? T.

1341
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:44.480
Fletcher and maybe the original Generation Iron?

1342
00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:46.239
Yeah, sounds good those two.

1343
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:48.239
We'll be back if you guys want to dive into

1344
00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:51.239
those with us, watch them now. Those will be upcoming episodes.

1345
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:53.760
There's shoot Barbo's talking about in California. I' so I'm

1346
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:57.000
like where you want to find me best? I'm Sebastian Underscore,

1347
00:57:57.000 --> 00:57:57.800
burn Bilo on, I.

1348
00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:00.599
G I am at the Jim McDean on all the

1349
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:04.559
social media. This show is fifty percent fifty percent facts

1350
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:06.320
for percent is a word in fifty is just numbers.

1351
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:09.599
And suddenly we we're a movie review show now I

1352
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:12.599
think that's maybe what's going on all the time, but

1353
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:19.119
like it lends itself to the kind of production schedule

1354
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:21.760
that we need to do, so uh fifty percent Facts

1355
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.280
is a speaker Prime podcast association with iHeartMedia on the

1356
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:26.960
Obscure Celebrity Network. And We'll talk to you next time.