Aug. 9, 2023
Shaun White: The Last Run --- A 50% Facts Review

Snowboard phenom Shaun White faces the end of his storied Olympic career in this Prime Video documentary series. We take a look at the first episode of this four-part series chronicling his start as a skateboarder and surfer and how his whole family...
Snowboard phenom Shaun White faces the end of his storied Olympic career in this Prime Video documentary series. We take a look at the first episode of this four-part series chronicling his start as a skateboarder and surfer and how his whole family became obsessed with chasing the best snow-covered slopes all over the western US. How would you handle becoming a millionaire as a teenager?
Dean Saddoris joined us for this one. You can find Dean on IG @deansaddoris.ck and at caffeineandkilos.com
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Dean Saddoris joined us for this one. You can find Dean on IG @deansaddoris.ck and at caffeineandkilos.com
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So I have a question for you
guys if either of you ever like gotten
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into shaving with a straight razor doing
it myself. Yes, no, No,
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Like the Pirate one. That was
the first time I ever saw that
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was Peter pan Oh. Yeah,
that's the first time I ever saw that.
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I got really into, like and
like I've wanted one as like a
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like a pocket knife almost like a
weapon. Yeah, but never did.
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Yeah. They do look cool.
Yeah, they look cool. They look
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some of the guys and that isn't
like the bad guy Jerry Rafferty saw playing
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in the background the cops ear off. It's Joker Rock one. I feel
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like it's a Joker style weapon cartoon
could could you just had a regular knife
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and dark Knight right, he had
a regular knife. I just feel like
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it's darker style weapon. They're that's
considered a ten out of ten movie on
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that list you guys see those lists
that pop up on Instagram, like no,
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like five ten out of ten or
ten ten out of ten movies The
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Jokers one. Yeah, he's one
of them. Yeah. I had this
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conversation with you know, sam My
Son the other day and he was like,
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no, Batman Begins is a better
movie because it actually makes sense from
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from beginning to end. The third
act of Dark Knight doesn't make any sense
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at all. It's like, yeah, okay, moever, that's true.
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But it's such a fucking good movie. I love that movie. I could
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just watch that movie. Every nearly
sense though about Dark Knight because it doesn't
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flow from begins. Yeah, and
the Joker's plan ever makes any sense?
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And is that maybe part of it
though, right, because he's insane?
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Maybe, but that's that's the whole
idea, is that he's out. No
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one is always one step at too. But the Joe whole Joker thing is,
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yeah, that he's mentally deranged.
So you can't like, oh,
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what he's thinking. Does he want
to kill Batman? Or does he not
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want to kill Batman? Because he
says I kill kill the bat at some
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at some point, and then he
also says, you can't exist without me
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and I can't exist without you.
Not it's not a direct quote, but
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the same, you know, like
that sounds like a sane person. Good
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needs evil and evil needs good.
That's a good movie. I think we
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can look past it. Yeah,
But anyway, he's like, I don't
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know, man, I've never got
into begin I watched it like twice.
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I liked it. I liked them
all. They try and tie it in
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at the very beginning with a little
meat up in the in the in the
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driving parking lot whatever. And I
never shaved with the straight razor, but
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by Barbara does I did. Yes, we have the same Barbara guess.
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I actually I bought one about like
twelve twelve bucks with the changeable blades off
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of off of Amazon, thinking that
I because I always just wanted to try
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it. And the first time that
I messed with it, I was freaked
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the fuck out. The whole time. I was sure I was gonna like
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an artery or something and just die
in the Yeah, I'm good. Yeah,
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And then like the next time I
picked it up, I suddenly knew
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what I was doing. Now,
like Sweeney, Yeah, my neck is
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an issue because it's you know,
uneven, and I'm old and stuff,
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and so it's hard to it's hard
to really get a smooth but up here
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that's the leather leather belt. I
just got the changeable blades. I have
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one of those, actually have my
dad's really from forever ago. Yeah,
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but uh uh to me, that
was a little bit of a metaphor for
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the Sean White thing with the skateboard
and like he's awkward, you know,
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four tries and suddenly he's amazing and
like amazing, amazing. Yeah, they
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say it with a snowboard too,
right, he says the last to pick
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it up as a family. But
he's just like jaming and four run.
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If you're the transition of snowboarding is
like, oh, this is easier than
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skateboarding, yes, sah. And
then surfs surf. Yeah, I use
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the surfer surf and feel different to
you surfs. Wanted to surf but never
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did. Yeah, like I've done
it, but like I never was like
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a surfer. Yeah, I've done
it maybe five times up, you know,
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probably got up. He never like
grinded it. Wait, no,
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no, no, I feel like
actually Sacramento and he mentions Mount Hood.
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Do we know where he's from?
Uh? Is he from like Portland,
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Seattle, Vancouver or some ship because
he mentioned San Diego because he mentioned Mount
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Hood a lot, which I was
just Mount Hood is one of the very
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few, if not the only,
main snowboard area that's open year round.
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So it makes sense because obviously there's
Tahoe and Big Bear, if he's from
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San Diego, that are much closer. But if they're only open for three,
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four seasons or months, it makes
sense to go up to Mount Hood
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because it's not that far, which
is going no, uh yeah, that's
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all I really had. But the
savant thing is interesting because I feel like
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that's a rare we talked about in
the past episode. Even my home's being
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good at quarterback from June New Year
is less rare, I feel like than
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literally hopping on a skateboard and flying
off a ramp when you're four. Yeah,
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a lot of people don't realize that
he was just just like, I
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mean, you won gold medals at
X Games right and invert and started there
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right foot the footage he's fucking like
twelve and Tony Hawks twenty three and they're
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hanging out, Like, you don't
just randomly get to hang out with Tony
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Hawk unless you can throw it out. Yeah, those are like the vault.
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I think those Vulcan videos like that. Yeah, everyone's skating in there.
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Said he's never And the other interesting
thing which makes it even more savanti
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is because like one definition of being
a good athlete is being able to see
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something and replicate it with your body, whether that's hand I or body control
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or whatever it might be. You
watch Michael Jordan do a certain crossover.
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If you have enough basketball school,
you can go do that same And he
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never watched a skate video until Tony
Hawk made him watch one that he was
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in. Yeah, you know what
I mean. So I'm like, and
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obviously he's skating with other people,
so you could pick up that. That's
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so savanti to like. And the
amount of like tricks he made up or
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invented. Yeah, like that's that's
really some kind of like you know,
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Mozart brain power. The last run
is the name maybe John White. The
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last one. I think I dove
into an episode and a half maybe two.
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I got through the first one.
I only watched the first one.
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There's there's four total. Yeah,
I think I'm out of dug into two.
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Yeah. Yeah, the whole family
kind of how it starts off right,
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It was like his backstory to his
family. Also, like the heart
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conditioned stuff too, that's really familiar
with that. Yeah, that was childhood
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Stuff's crazy. What's crazy is like
you can turn around and then be the
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best athlete in the world. Yeah, well, I think it's like Tommy
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John surgery than it's part perfect,
I guess, I don't know. Yeah,
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well, a lot of heart for
conditions that people are born with are
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usually just like kind of more repairs, like plumbing repairs than like a congenital
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where like they like stick around.
Yeah it's not long. He had types
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just weird. Yeah, that was
just like wired the wrong way and put
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the wrong pipe on the wrong valve
kind of. That's like like my with
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my son, he had two open
art surgeries in his two weeks of being
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alive. So like I dealt with
that basically like those pictures, like I've
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seen all that in part, like
I've been through all that, and I
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was like and I knew about his
heart stuff because he's talked about it in
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the older documentaries and other random things
and like so that stuff for me was
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like really interesting and cool and like
seeing like you know him thrive. That
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was really did you grow up a
Shawn White fan? Yeah, oh,
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big time, Like I was.
So I was talking about like history with
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like skating, and obviously like I
skated all my youth and even in my
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adult life, and then snowboarding was
always there too, Like I almost moved
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to Taho at one point, and
it's such a norcout thing. I feel
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like to skateboard, snowboard and wake
I didn't. I didn't get the wakeboarding
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train boat. My friends that I
hung out with like parents, didn't have
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boats like my group of friends because
there's fulsome lake which which historically is great
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for wakeboarding and boating, and then
even the rivers. Yeah, I never
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got into it, but all my
buddies did and we had some friends with
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boats, So I grew up on
boats. Although like, for one,
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because of basketball, I never want
to get injured, and I snowboarded at
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once and I never got injured.
But you're catching yourself on your first day
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because you're eating shit. And then
my wrist was hurt and I couldn't shoot
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for a week. I'm like,
wow, fuck this, I'm not going
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to do that in the middle of
the season. And then two like I'm
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by no means savante like these motherfuckers. But just from an early age,
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I could dribble basketball like no one
else could. The exact opposite felt on
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a board because every kid skateboarded,
you know, because Tony Hawk was blowing
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up, so fourth or fifth grade, I could get around. I could
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shob but I'm not doing kick flips. Like some of that didn't come easy
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to me at all, although I
was probably better, Like you're good,
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I've seen you like you could skate. I couldn't do any of that but
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for the af fourth grade or I
could move, yeah, sure, but
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but nothing like clicked. Yeah,
it wasn't always like I had fun,
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but it's not like, damn,
I'm good at this, let's get better.
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It was just one of those things
like skateboarding takes four or five hours
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a day of dedication, just reps
and reps to learn. It's just like
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it's such a girl. It's like
the most grindiest like sport, like one
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of the most grindiest all It's like
golf, right, you gotta practice all
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day, every single day. That
was the biggest thing that popped to me
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about snowboarding because obviously I know,
but I'm such a casual fan. I
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would watch the games or whatever.
But how grindy it probably is, and
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the magnitude of the grinds obviously different. Like hitting golf balls. Yeah,
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you're back gets sore, you get
a little sweaty, but hitting fucking trip
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bone pit walking back up and doing
a thousand of those. It's much more
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difficult than me putting a ball on
a tea a thousand times. Yeah,
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Like about senior year of high school
and junior year of high school, it
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is like where I started losing interest
in like baseball, and even though I
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was like naturally just like not naturally
I was naturally good, but also like
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I've been playing too, Like I
was good in high school, but I
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just start falling in more and more
out of that and getting in really into
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the snowboarding and like wanting to do
that, and we weren't allowed a snowboard
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and you know, DAVY or varsity
baseball, and like I would still go
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and I'd have to get and tried
to get in trouble if like and stuff
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like that, and I just didn't
care, you know, at all about
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repercussions of it. But I was
really in the store. We actually ran
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into me and my buddy Victor,
my buddy Eric ran into Sean at uh
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North Star and he was at the
pipes. This is around the Olympic.
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This is around two thousand and six, so like he must have been training
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for that that thing when we saw
him, because we went down there and
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pretty famous by then, Oh yeah, he was huge by that. So
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we go down there and we literally
like he's like one guy with a tripod
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with a camera and they're at the
at the pipe. No one really rides
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the pipe except for like very it's
a very niche like the riding the half
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pipe, like not many people.
We all ride the park, go down
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the park and like do the grinding
and like the little in the jumps and
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stuff. But the park like you
like I mean the half pipe stuff you
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don't see like people who aren't going
there and just like riding in that harder,
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Oh my god, it's like a
whole thing. It's like, yeah,
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skateboard, like you couldn't get me
on a vert ramp. It's the
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same. There's like Tony Hawk isn't
gonna go in a street video, you
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know what. I think it's not
anyway. So like we go down there
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and we just started talking to him. He's just like this fucking most chill
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dude. My buddy Victor ends up
going up. He's like, you guys
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want to go I want to go
on a want to go ride down on
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the park, And it's like my
buddy Victor went with him and they just
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fucking rode together. Like it was
like a normal dude. Pretty it was
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pretty awesome just talking with him anyways, and it was it was pleasant and
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he was Yeah, he had this
fucking long hair, you know, it
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was had a look for sure branded
him. Yeah. And I remember asking
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him about like those face masks he
always wore, and he's like, oh,
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yeah, dude, he's just T
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the shirt, the sleeve on a
T shirt and then just pull it over
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that. Yeah, that's great,
that's awesome. It. Uh. The
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family aspect of it really strikes in
that first episode, like like the family
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enabled it. Even though they didn't
really have a lot of money, they'd
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figure out how to do things the
cheapest possible way, and they all,
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well, they must have seen the
savant otherwise, like because their parents seem
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pretty normal, who knows because it
is a movie, but they ripped them
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out of school. Yeah, you
know what I mean, so they must
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have seen like all, this kid's
different. Yeah. Otherwise, you know,
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I think most responsible parents are like, no, we need to you
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know, at least go to at
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making six figures by the time he
was like what fifteen Did they shoot a
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millionaire of it? I don't know
if that's that's exactly correct. Was the
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second episode? Second episode? Because
I shouldn't watched it if we weren't all
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watching it, Like we talked about, they all messed together. Now,
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I don't know when it stopped.
Did they show him kind of separate from
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his family? Did you guys see
that? Yeah? Okay, so yeah,
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no spoilers, but spoilers. The
money part and family part become a
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big part of the story. He's
it in the first one where the mom
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talks about money a little bit and
being his manager, but then it basically
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at one point he says, fuck
it and I need to spend my money,
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you know. He said that a
little bit. Yeah, and then
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he started to put his mom out. His mom wasn't his manager anymore.
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He got a new man, like
a real manager. And then where I
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left off, he's of I think
financial success and even says it. He's
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like, I got no friends,
I got no girlfriend, I got no
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family. Now, like I eliminated
anything that'll take me away from like snowboarding,
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which is also like sad, but
this I mean to be the absolute
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god of something. I don't think
you can have a help in your partner
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and your wife and your family.
Like balance isn't a thing when you want
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an unbalanced result. He was kind
of like a Tiger Woods separation and golf
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like right, Tiger speaking golf like
there was like he would win by like
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ten strokes in a tournament, maybe
even more when you think about like because
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you're in it, so it maybe
seems out way do you. But for
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me on the outside, single snowboarder, nobody you can. And I can
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name a couple of golfers. I
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grew up watching in like DC videos, like you know, like because like
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I was really into it and I'd
watch the video like, but I can
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name like five, but even I
mean like and they're not even around anym
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even like White's still snowboarding, yeah, or even like skateboarding. You got
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Tony Hawk, Ryan Sheckler made yeah
that too. But even me, I'm
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equal fan for all this because I
watched it. I like the X Games.
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I'd watch him every year. But
but like Rob Dear Dick, right,
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there's a handful of names that you
can kind of throw in there with
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Tony. I can't name a single
person in Sean's world beside Sean his his
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gap professionally. I don't know about
pure skill wise, but his gap professionally
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there was the only other one I
can think of. The only other reference
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I have is Michael Phelps, where
I can't name another person professionally or skill
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wise even close to the convo.
And obviously I'm not a swimmer or a
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swimming fanatic, but that's why it's
all equal in mind. It's also an
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Olympic sport, so it's kind of
like the same ballpark yea, yeah,
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yeah. And also like that that
time when he was fit, it's like
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kind of like is it what that
was? Like the peak of snowboarding.
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Snowboarding is like never been that big. It's still like now it's like not
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even nearly that populous lukewarm. It's
like very like it went like this,
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and like we're down here. You
think spaceboarding isn't really like that big.
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People are still going, but it's
like it became so unaffordable for the casual.
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Now do you think that's based on
personality? Because a lot of sports
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I feel like only go as far
as the best person goes, Like skateboarding
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isn't what it is without twenty Hawk, right popularity was snowboarding probably wasn't gonna
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do unless another Sean White comes across. Yeah now, And also like this
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is just like I'm sure in Japan, maybe snowboarding is fucking massive because it's
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that are winning all the Sean White
they're all and that same thing is happening
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in skateboarding now too interesting as these
kids in Japan are just dominating these like
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foot sports footboard sports right now.
And like for us in the US,
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like I don't think we're still riding
that high of like marketing because like it's
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these other countries that are kind of
their their growth is over there now where
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I think we're more nationally, the
growth is going in the other direction.
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You know. It's like kind of
like falling away from us because we don't
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have like the top guys anymore.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
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It is interesting. Did the X
Games stopped for a bit? It just
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ended, It just finished and it
was on. Was there a gap in
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competition? I don't think so.
I think it's always gone. It's just
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not as popular, yeah, because
I know they tried to drag an esports.
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They didn't like the duty thing for
a bit. The Do Tour esports
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too, but the Do Tour used
to run by the State Fair and I
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would go and watch it. Yeah, yeah, the Yeah, the X
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Games just ended. You're like,
here's the thing too, like like nikin
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like third Yeah, you know what
I mean. The top guy that won
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was this kid. I think he's
pretty sure he's uh from Japan. I'm
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pretty sure if I remember correctly.
Yeah, it used to be like it
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used to take over ESPN and it
was actually perfect, right because you're in
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the gap from basketball. Baseball's middle
of the season, so it isn't is
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exciting, and the NFL hasn't started
big ESPN blast in the middle of summer.
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Well ESPN started it, so that's
yeah. Yeah, but I'm just
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saying like it was a perfect schedule. Yeah, it was. It was
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like perfect. I think that this
extreme sports hype yeah, isn't it's not
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resonating with the new youth. I
wonder why that is. I think because
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it's just it's just kind of I
don't know, phased out. I think
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this new generation doesn't give a shit
about it as much. They're not think
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about like this like those sports in
general, like a lot. Yeah,
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they're still like the kids that are
skating because it is like a something that
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anybody can do anywhere, right,
Like, so I think that it's also
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more affordable. It's more you buy
one hundred other board, you have the
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rest and you got and you're good
if Yeah, you could make it snowboarding
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like tricks. I'm doing even even
to even get on the mountain and own
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a board for sure. So you
want to go, I want to I
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want to start sports. I don't
have a I don't have any gear,
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and I want to starboard tomorrow.
You gotta you gotta two tanks of gas
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back and forth. You gotta find
somewhere to stay. What's a board cost
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two hundred three hundred dude? No, like for just the bindings on.
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If you're talking like average good quality
board four hundred bucks, let's say we
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rent one hundreds hundred bucks lift ticke, it's gonna be three na, sayeah,
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what's to live the day? Yeah, so we're in a grand deep
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food hotel. Yeah, and you're
talking about fucking uh clothes And that is
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if you're lucky enough to live in
Sacramento where you can drive half hour if
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you've got to flop more. Jacket
is yeah, sure four bucks. No
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much of the pants are three four
hunds. Are any goggles? Findings three
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hundred dollars? Goggles three hundred dollars? Is interesting, You're talking about ten
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thousand dollars set up at this point. I mean skiing historically, Skiing historically
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was that right, Like skiing was
known as right. So do you think
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snowboard just kind of took that over
just because they knew the market was there
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was pure business because no way that
boards worth that to the technology and these
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boards though, Dude's like there's a
lot of tech and more than skateboarding.
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Yeah, especially like the way that
they So it's so funny. The shape
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of the snowboard now is the complete
was even when I was like into it.
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So now the park boards that used
to be like noses a kind of
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up in the middle was more flat. Now they build the street boards where
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the middle isn't touching the uh almost
the snow It's almost like the complete opposite
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shape now. Interesting. So like
there's like a lot of tech and like
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how to make things pop better and
how to like it. You get a
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little spring out of it. Maybe, Yeah, it's like totally different now,
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like they've literally done the opposite of
what it was, and only in
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the you know, let's say what
fifteen years that like when I was really
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into it, when I was taking
my you know, early twenties or like
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late teens or whatever. A decade. Yeah, over over a decade.
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It's it's like a complete different thing
now, pensive now, and it's like
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it's so you have to have a
lot of money to get into snowboarding and
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stay in it and then stay in
it. And I think this generation of
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like youth kids are just like they're
not interested in that. There's other things
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they can do. Now makes sense, It does make sense. Some interesting
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I found about Sean White is like
early footage, like twelve years old to
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maybe even eighteen, Like the most
stereotypical stoner listens to Sublime skateboards all day
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guy, And then you see his
under the interviews and it's like he just
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got like educated overnight. Now he's
talking like you know what I mean,
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Like he's ESPN athlete and obviously he
had a million reps of being interviewed and
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so like the later interviews when he's
all clean cut he's got like a he's
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crushing those interviews and speaking more normal, and he's dating Nina Dobreeve or whatever,
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you know who's in the same Hollywood
vein crushes interviews and looks. It's
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just funny like maybe that had to
do with it too, right, where
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like the early days of the sport
were this grunge his hair looks different,
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preppie sport, you know, like
his his goggles were Burton, and then
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they were Oakley, and then you
see the last ones. Oh no,
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I don't Prada, Oh yeah,
yeah yeah, and then you're like,
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okay, so like this sport has
kind of changed with him. He's kind
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of changed with it. I'm not
saying it's good or bad, but to
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where maybe snowboarding is now if you're
walking product goggles that you're going to smash
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doing three backflips, you're probably doing
you know, different things. And then
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what all the kids want. They
don't want to rip off the tea and
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put it on his mask. They
want to out a mask. Yeah you
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know, so like it's just a
different era. Well, it's like almost
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like remember like the surfing skates and
the freewhere bro remember those, Yeah,
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they were they were everywhere, and
that a lot of their revenue came from
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like board sales of like snowboard gear, and like once that started to fall
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down, like they all disappeared.
Yeah, surfence get I used to go
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to the cool clothes and ship.
Yeah yeah, what do you have now,
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Tillies, I guess is kind of
their replicaive ties. I don't think
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they're selling snowboard board and mostly clothes. Yeah, shoes and clothes and whatever
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trendy, Yeah, clothes or whatever. The sunglasses. Yeah. There are
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a couple of like major injuries that
he sustains in the course of episode one,
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And the craziest thing about it is
that, just like a human trait,
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that we can watch something where we
already know the and yet we're like
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our heart rate goes up and we're
on the edge of our seat and was
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like, oh, is he gonna
make it? Like, well, I
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know he's alive because we saw him, you know, at the beginning of
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this thing in the contemporary times,
and we know he's okay, and we
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know it didn't affect his career,
Like, oh my god, he's so
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fucking injured. Yeah. The pipe
shit is like it's so fucking gnarly.
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I can't imagine because like you're also
vulnerable to this, like the conditions,
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say, like when everybody's launching off
that rampic if it starts getting a little
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slick, you come off that dude, and there's no it seems scary,
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same every time, like a half
doors, would you know what's gonna happen?
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And obviously boards attached to you.
It seems like skateboarding because I watched
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a ton of the Summer X Games, not a ton of the Winner,
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and all those guys are so good
at landing safe on skateboarding, I'd assume,
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Yeah, snowboarding just seems more dangerous, Like obviously the heights are similar
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ish you probably get a little more
air on snow but and perfectly you know
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they do the easy slide on their
knees and they look like nothing ever happened
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where you didn't really ever see like
a soft cool landing on. You're getting
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wrecked. They get wrecked and flipped
over. You're you're doing the pretzel deal.
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Yeah, the spine those are essentially
concrete. Yeah, those packed those
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packed pipes like that or you know, you can't even put your fist in
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it in the ground. You have
their rock salts, you eat shit you
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have too soft. It's gonna break
you off and you're gonna be Yeah,
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it's gnarly like that shit is so
gnarly. Yeah. I had a couple
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of kids I grew up with that
were deep into snowboarding at the time,
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and I think one dude was making
a run at the X Games like he
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was super legit. Don't quote me
on the story, jump a freeway.
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He started doing some of this crazy
shit and landing in a bank. It
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just yet shattered his pelvis and just
you know, he's I saw him when
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he was like twenty two. He's
walking with a cane. Yeah. Once
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got yeah. Once you Once you
lose your footing or your balance with one
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of those boards on, there's no
towarding your body like how it's like you're
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just a you're gonna free fall,
and however, you just hope for the
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best. Yeah, yeah, I
try to not land on your head.
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One of my friends in his late
forties early fifties shattered his leg snowboarding.
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Yeah, just like got fell into
a hole and just just broke it off.
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Just like skiing is just as crazy, right, I mean, they're
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doing people will just you know,
die hitting trees. You know, is
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you're a president or something. I
remember hearing as a kid somebody famous.
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Uh an, maybe that's it.
But someone a tree, someone recently just
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hit a tree that's famous and past. Uh snowboarding or skiing like another really
386
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famous person. Does that happen when
you're google it probably pop right upthing happen
387
00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:30.240
when you're hunting the powder and ship? Or does it? Will that happen
388
00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:36.000
to a casual Uh? Usually you
know, if you're staying on the if
389
00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:38.480
you're staying on the run, you're
not gonna die. You're gonna be fine
390
00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:41.440
because they're usually just very huge,
like football field wide, you know what
391
00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:44.400
I mean, and you're just going
down and like yeah, you can still
392
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get fucked up, but you're not
You're not gonna hit a tree. They
393
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were going like in the back country
and you're going like you go like could
394
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just say you're going down the hill, like there's like little trails you can
395
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:56.680
go off to the side and like
that people have like made or going through
396
00:24:56.680 --> 00:25:00.359
the powder like that's when you can
get that's when you which I under stand
397
00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:02.759
that you know, you're you're skilled
enough. And now you want to go
398
00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:08.240
feel nature. I get the but
there people suffocating and like like because like
399
00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:15.000
so when the trees are getting snowed
on the trees, like around the trunk,
400
00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:19.039
the snow doesn't go there right uh, and then it kind of goes
401
00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:23.160
around the edges of little trap.
So there's a basically there's a hole that
402
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:26.680
goes all the way down. But
then it does get like a thin layer
403
00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:30.920
of powder. So those trunks,
you just fall into that hole. And
404
00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:37.119
if you fall head first, then
your feet are stuck above you because of
405
00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:41.880
the snowboard and you can't crawl yourself. You got someone to pull you out.
406
00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:45.119
I'm out. I don't do the
snow. I do like cabins and
407
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:49.319
coffee and shit. But but powder
ship, there's you know, very safe
408
00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:52.200
ways of going about it. Sure
because yeah, if it was all that
409
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:56.720
dangerous, it wouldn't be popular.
But the tons of rich folk are going
410
00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.079
up there every weekend. Yeah,
it's just crazy. Now the prices,
411
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:02.559
man, Like you used to be
able to get a season pass unlimited snowboarding
412
00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:04.319
for like three hundred bucks for a
season, it was like three bucks.
413
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:07.839
That's what it tasks to go to
once pass. I think now they're probably
414
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:11.880
like five seven hundred bucks, but
like it used to beat three hundred bucks
415
00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:14.599
and then like you're good, go
twenty times we'd skip school and we'd go.
416
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:15.680
Yeah, but we talked about,
like where are you gonna stay?
417
00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:18.799
Because all these places are isolated and
fancy and nice, you know, like
418
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:22.559
even an airbnb is gonna cost to
you. We were just like luckily living
419
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:23.759
here. You drive an hour and
a half, two hours, you come
420
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:29.200
back the same day. Yeah.
I also had at the resorts in the
421
00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:32.680
winter that were graduated already, you
know, they all lived up there yea,
422
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:33.960
and they had cabins. We'd stay
there. But even that, Yeah,
423
00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:37.519
but as an adult used to be
affordable to us, be able to
424
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:38.759
like a friend, you used to
be able to rent a cabin for like
425
00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:41.480
the season, for like twelve hundred
bucks a month. You have five guys
426
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.000
living in there, like working at
the ski resort. It was like awesome.
427
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.240
I had a bunch of buddies that
did that too, Yeah, theys
428
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.200
or even rental guys. And then
you just work the fucking mountain. Yeah,
429
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:52.599
I do a seasonal work. Yeah, kind of live the college dream.
430
00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:57.319
Yeah, and uh, Sean might
never had to do that for sure,
431
00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:03.160
No, sure, or not?
Let me get sponsored so early at
432
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:06.599
the peak of it too, Like
that's when all the money was coming in.
433
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:10.440
So given him a million dollars or
whatever, you know what I mean,
434
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.359
Like he had pro board models.
He's gonna cut on his board,
435
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:15.839
sales, cut on his merch you
know, like he had the timing does
436
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.720
seem good because not only the popularity, but he wasn't the first guy to
437
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.400
do it, so like Tony Hawk
and these guys went that route. We
438
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:25.279
talked about in Air and some of
the Nike stuff because if you're the if
439
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:27.359
you're get the first sneaker deal,
you're gonna get fucked. You're not gonna
440
00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:30.880
give you royalties and all that.
He probably came out at the perfect time
441
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.759
to have the business was already set. They know how to take care of
442
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.200
him and not screw him, and
it's at its growing height. Yea,
443
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:38.720
Yeah, so he probably bawled out, what's he doing now? He's probably
444
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:42.720
two years older than us. Yeah, he's about the same age. I
445
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:48.519
think he's about around thirty seven probably, Yeah, I think what he's just
446
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:52.920
retired your clothing company. I'm sure
he does. Yeah, I'm sure that
447
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:56.519
I'm sure they still sell I'm sure
they still sell Burton pro model Sean White's
448
00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.200
stuff. Yeah, probably, but
he Yeah, I'm sure the documentary start
449
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.599
to dive into that. That is
interesting and having a career. Uh what
450
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:10.319
three Olympics, get three? That's
twelve years and this one's all building up
451
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.559
to twenty twenty two Winter Games,
right, Yeah, which I assume was
452
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:17.160
his last one. Yeah, I
believe that was, which was last year,
453
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:19.400
And I remember watching I don't even
remember like what I watched it.
454
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:22.079
I well, I watched this particular
part because I'm I mean, I like
455
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:30.079
Tony Hawk, I'm Sehn White,
and I was actually it was cool to
456
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:36.039
see Tony Hawk in this documentary talking
about Sean White as a kid. Yeah,
457
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:38.119
but I think would you get that
at that level at all or in
458
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:41.039
general? Yeah, because it's not
as flashy of a sport, although it
459
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:45.279
may be expensive, so some of
the athletes are more like digestible in a
460
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:49.319
sense and went like Adam, they're
actually cool. And then also when you're
461
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:53.279
at the high level, I think
it's even smaller than other sports, right
462
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:56.559
because it is kind of a world
sport. So if you get the top
463
00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:00.440
five Americans they're probably all buddies.
You know. It's not like basketball,
464
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.920
where there's ten thousand people that are
all feeding to be in the NBA and
465
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.839
they're all pretty good. I don't
know each other's names. Yeah, that
466
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.400
was interesting. But the little drama
they talked about with those guys that did
467
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.039
that expo, the little team and
they were like, hey, what's just
468
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:17.880
like all split the money and like
not really try hard and just put on
469
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:18.720
a good show and try I was
like, fuck that, dude, I
470
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.200
want all the money. Oh,
I think you're talking about the little team
471
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:25.400
that was against him when their kids. Oh no, I meant the when
472
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:30.000
he was like on that there were
too the pro they were touring pro that
473
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.599
was like a demo or what it
wasn't like like the Mountain de Tour.
474
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:34.599
Yeah, and there was like cash
prize and like he was kind of an
475
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:38.240
outsider. Yeah, they're kind of
getting an him being an outsider like early
476
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:41.880
in that in that last episode,
because because in the next when they basically
477
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.160
go on to him having no life. Yeah, And I remember, like
478
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:51.480
even even kids, like everybody I
always here about how everybody hated Sean White.
479
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:55.839
It is because he was kind of
like a he won. People hate
480
00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:59.559
a winner, right, either you
love and like even we were kind of
481
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:00.920
haters, right, We kind of
liked the more niche guys. Yeah,
482
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:03.160
you know, we were kind of
haters too because he was like the commercial
483
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.000
variety. It's easy to cheer for
him, Yeah, kind of like the
484
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:10.640
Yeah, it's too easy, but
I actually like, no, Shawn's personality
485
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:14.640
is way better. Yeah, Mahomes
sucks for many reasons. Sean only sucks
486
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:18.519
because he's good. Yeah, So
that was interesting. I didn't expect that.
487
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.279
Maybe it was the second episode,
but do you remember that there was
488
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:23.480
like a team that was on the
up and coming when he was a kid.
489
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:27.960
They had like a van, there's
like five, but there's like this
490
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.960
group that started to like their whole
goal was to beat him, and they
491
00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.880
were five friends, and Sean mentions
like, damn, I was waiting for
492
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.759
my invite to be on this cool
little team and they never invited me.
493
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.960
He's like, that was my next
fuel. Maybe that's the second episode.
494
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:42.839
That's like they were kind of going
into that, I think because there's this
495
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.880
group of like kids that were up
and comers and they were living the mag
496
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:51.359
board life, renting a one room
cabin all staying together and he's like,
497
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:52.000
oh, that's cool, and he
wanted to be there, buddy, and
498
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.039
he just never got the invite.
So maybe that's like a little bit of
499
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:57.599
like why he had a villain arc
because I think it was when he was
500
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:02.240
younger. It was like sixteen seventeen
eighteen. The cool kids didn't want to
501
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:03.440
be friends with them. So then
he just said, all right, fuck
502
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.079
it, I will be the lone
wolf. Just whoop everyone's ass. All
503
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.519
these guys kind of like the Arnold
thing they all like. And obviously it's
504
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:14.200
all scripted, so who knows,
right, and it's edited, but he
505
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:17.160
goes into and I think it's more
of the second episode, but he goes
506
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:19.920
and the first episode he mentions it. But like each area he has like
507
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:23.240
a certain like chip on his shoulder
and he knows why how he has this
508
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.720
ship on his shoulder, and then
he has like a certain goal every single
509
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:32.079
time string I see with all this
ship, you know, like even Kirk
510
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.279
Cousins, you know, like he
mentioned little things like, oh, my
511
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:38.200
architect, you know, put this
area for the trophy. Now I'm gonna
512
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.599
go get this trophy. You know, like all these guys are just wired
513
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.839
a little bit different. They're they're
they're very intelligent people like to be a
514
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.079
quarterback in the NFL's right, because
he isn't like, figure out a new
515
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:53.200
move like that's insane creativity. Yeah, and it's just a lot of good
516
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:57.440
brain power. An idiot can't do
that. But when you break down what
517
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:02.960
drives them, they're very like Caveman, he pissed me off gold medal.
518
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.079
I go, yeah, it's that
simple, Yeah, very primal. That
519
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:12.319
guy sucks. He you know,
he's mean. I'd go win that to
520
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:15.440
get back at him. Yeah,
or my mom wasn't there. I go
521
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:17.559
win this to get back at her. M m m. I don't have
522
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.200
any of that. Yeah, I
guess, yeah, I guess that's when
523
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:28.559
we're not liked him. Unfortunate.
He's currently thirty six six. Yeah,
524
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:30.519
he'll be a little bit. You're
right on it. Yeah, I'll be
525
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:36.559
thirty seven September and talking about like, you know, it looks like the
526
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.759
mom looked older in the footage than
she does now. She's got a lot
527
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:43.519
of work done. Yeah's money.
You put your face in the shop.
528
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:45.920
And his dad was cool, his
family seemed cool. Yeah, you know,
529
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.319
everyone crying and shit bought his mom
in the car. That was cool.
530
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:54.000
Yeah, like those gym lockers in
the garage. I was like,
531
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:58.400
oh that's old school. Yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah. The story with
532
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:00.079
the family does make it just so
relatable. You know, there's just like
533
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.799
a regular ass family. Mom's a
server. She said. They were like
534
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.640
living out of the van, like
they were like gypsies. Yeah they were.
535
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.440
Yeah, it is cool, it
is. It is kind of like
536
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:13.480
a moral of the story thing,
you know, like you ain't gotta have
537
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:15.519
all the money, but if you
got the family, you know, you're
538
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:17.200
kind of locked in. It's kind
of kind of American dream in some sense.
539
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:21.440
I was just like, dude,
like I imagine, like I couldn't
540
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:25.240
imagine being that free of like and
just living life. Yeah, like like
541
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:30.119
with my family, like what Max
a million in ten years before he was
542
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:34.200
making money though they were kind of
making you know what I mean. But
543
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:36.880
did the dad say what he did? I know, the mom said waitress.
544
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.279
I think they said he had a
blue collar job. He's like construction.
545
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:44.359
They they might have been, okay, because like everyone's idea of rich
546
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.680
in middle class and stuff's all fucked
in the nineties. If you're construction job
547
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:52.480
you're living okay, and now a
good blue collar job now was more than
548
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:54.400
before. Yeah, you're plumbers are
making millions. You're doing fine. Yeah,
549
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.279
oh yeah. If you go to
like that's the funny thing. It's
550
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:00.839
like, man, if you want
like a safe, cush life electrician or
551
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:05.440
plumber, go to a trade school
for two years and they get you a
552
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.719
job. It's gonna be six figures
making six figures, and then you work
553
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:10.880
your way for ten years, get
a reputation, build your own company,
554
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:14.840
your millionaire. Yeah. Yeah,
that's the route for sure. Like that's
555
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.920
the definitely the easier route because no
one's doing it. Yeah, no one
556
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:21.599
wants to do it. All my
guys that are like a bunch of homies
557
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.239
that are Lineman, they're doing electricity
stuff. Yeah, they're doing great.
558
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.760
It's hard. I'm not saying it's
easy. It's a path, but it's
559
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:30.079
a path, and it's it's a
build. It's a guaranteed path. It's
560
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:36.239
a guaranteed path that requires discipline and
and you actually like have to fall through
561
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:39.760
that great crazy hours, hard work. But there's an answer. Yeah,
562
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:43.639
and we're like college, there's no
answer. No, they used to be
563
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:45.960
Yeah, I guess it's kind of
like my pointer, and I think your
564
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:49.440
point too. It's like, yeah, I mean there's a direct line of
565
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.760
like getting out of situations for sure. And you can go to a trade
566
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:54.039
school, and you can get a
loan to go to a trade school,
567
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:58.599
and you'll pay that fucking loan off
pretty fairly quickly year because those aren't that
568
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.480
expensive competibly to like going to some
random college to get some random degree that
569
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:05.159
you're not going to use. And
then it's just like some of them might
570
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.639
not even need it. You might
be able to get a mentor just work
571
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:13.760
for free. Yeah. So currently
he's in a business with his brother called
572
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.920
White Space and they make I don't
know if that's flying, I don't know.
573
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:22.599
I don't know. Uh, they
make snowboards, make guys on brand
574
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:29.079
now, yeah, guys on brand. Uh Bourton. But the crazy thing
575
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:31.119
is that he's had a sponsor since
he was seven. They didn't really say
576
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:36.440
that in that first episode they talk
about it was Burton, Yeah, right
577
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:38.360
for him. Yeah, they said
right as he won his first competition that
578
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:45.239
Burton was open to kids line seven. It's just phenomenal. And I'm sure
579
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:50.079
that all that stuff made a lot
more possible. Yeah, yeah, but
580
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:52.400
I don't know. Again, I
don't know if it's a second episode or
581
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.440
not. But the mom talked about
never spending that money. Yeah, you
582
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:59.679
know really yeah, yeah, there
must be second episode. Yeah, because
583
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:02.280
my mom's about not she she was
always she even admits, and she does
584
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:06.039
it with a giggle. But how
bad she was with money and wouldn't let
585
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.280
him spend its losing it all?
Yeah, both both. I think for
586
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:13.519
her own sake that she was frugal
and his and then and then that's where
587
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:16.199
a split starts to happen in the
family a little bit. In two thousand
588
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:21.960
and nine, for magazine estimated that
he had earned nine million dollars in from
589
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:25.360
his endorsements in two thousand and eight. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't surprise
590
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.360
me. The household name so here
in two thousand and eighty he was what
591
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:34.440
twenty two Yeah, and that's no
yeah, no competition money, only sponsors.
592
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.320
Who knows what he businesses. He
was already investing in her on the
593
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.320
back end. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, twentywo years old. Eight
594
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:45.559
million in the bank in two thousand
that back then, that's like happening like
595
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:52.440
thirty thirty. Now, that's crazy. I'm excited se where this one goes.
596
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:54.719
Yeah, yeah, I might watch
a few. I will. I'll
597
00:36:54.760 --> 00:37:00.280
probably watch the rest of it.
I liked this one considerably better than the
598
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.480
Quarterback one. Oh yeah, all
some more interested in this one. This
599
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:08.440
one feels characters and it feels more
vloggy, yeah, or less produced.
600
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:12.480
It feels like you're getting all this
footage you've never seen before. But the
601
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.559
other one it feels like you're watching
a Sunday special leading to a super Bowl.
602
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:17.320
You know, it's different, different
styles, for sure. It feels
603
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:22.559
like a package, Yeah, like
a role in package of of of you
604
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.840
know, bio on three Quarterbacks,
whereas this one is a summation of a
605
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:31.360
crew and obviously a full lifetime rather
than one season. And they bounce around
606
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:38.760
a lot. I mean it's it's
the first episode has a chronological like backbone,
607
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:43.719
but they jump back and forth in
time to make connections between things that
608
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:47.599
happened when he was he's younger and
when he's can they do the same.
609
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:51.559
I think the general timeline is leading
up to the new Olympics, and then
610
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.280
that you're explaining reasons why things are
going on in certain ways. Yeah,
611
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:57.960
it was done differently yeah, but
in a good way, a little bit
612
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:00.679
lass dancy. Yeah, you guys
feel like kind of started that. And
613
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:04.760
the best part of Last Dance is
that the genius of going back and forth
614
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:08.920
is each episode has a theme.
So the Broadman is the theme Jordan College,
615
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:14.559
but it's still it's chronological that bounces. Yeah, I feel like that
616
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:17.360
may be set a precedent for the
theme of the or the style of this
617
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:22.719
one. Last Dance. Was that
Netflix or was that HBO? Thought it
618
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:28.559
was ESPN, but I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know on Netflix
619
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.000
now, oh it might be a
Netflix original. I forgot No, I
620
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:35.840
think it was ESPN. But ESPN
must have a tie with with them,
621
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:37.360
you know, doing all this sports
shit. I feel like it's probably locked
622
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:42.639
in. Now well, who well, ESPN's own by Disney. Oh,
623
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.599
you're right, yeah, but now
yeah, and it's so weird now,
624
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:51.000
uh what just came out this week? Everything's so weird. So Disney also
625
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:53.840
owns nat g O. Right,
yeah, but you go to HBO,
626
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:58.320
they have Momoa for Shark Week.
You're right, maybe there's more of a
627
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:00.280
tie in with Disney and HBO.
Yeah, there's there's a bunch of weird
628
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.119
end somewhere on the business end,
because yeah, Shark Week launched on both
629
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:09.360
I was so confused. Yeah,
and then what's it called already on Transformers
630
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:12.800
is already on streaming? Yeah,
if you gotta buy, no, I
631
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:17.000
think you can watch it for free
on Paramount maybe punt. I'd like to
632
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:21.000
watch it heard actually, which I
think is I heard in the scheme of
633
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:23.360
things. Wasn't that bad? I
like fucking Transformers, man, So I
634
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:29.840
had no complaints. I wish Megan
Fox was there, but that's also speaking
635
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.360
Megan Fox. I would love to
me and my wife. Me and my
636
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:37.280
wife have been watching our kind of
our junk nighttime show. We've been started
637
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:42.159
over nine Beverly Hills nine o two
and the og one from the early nineties.
638
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.840
Yeah, and like one of the
kids on there, the youngest one
639
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:50.239
that does like the djo Hey,
like, uh, what's it called the
640
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.679
it's Brian Austin Green, Yes,
yeah, yeah, and that's making that's
641
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:58.400
baby Mama. Yeah all their kids
is the good from guy from nine two
642
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:00.239
and over whatever? I didn't know
that for boys for three boys right here
643
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:04.199
all with Brian Austin Green. Yeah, so he was like a smaller character
644
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:07.239
in that show. He wasn't liked. You have a success after I don't
645
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:10.119
think some of that show went off
for like ten or twelve seas. He
646
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:13.880
made a bank for sure, and
then they did that reboot and like early,
647
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.280
like two thousand and eight, still
be going the reboot. I've never
648
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:20.719
seen any of them, but I
remember it. The guy did all the
649
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.880
Sharknado movies. The blonde guy.
Yeah, uh, oh my god,
650
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:30.320
what's his name? It's not pronounced
the way it it looks like it would
651
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:35.280
be. What the fuck is his
name? Ian? Yes, yes,
652
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:38.239
that guy. You what you read
Ian say? I in, Yeah,
653
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:43.360
he's uh does all Yeah, he's
still gone. And then one guy passed
654
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:50.320
away, the Luke Luke. Yeah, one of them have that. One
655
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:52.000
of the girls has cancer. All
like a lot of them got sick,
656
00:40:54.639 --> 00:41:00.480
has is dying of breast cancer.
Yeah, but anyway, get out of
657
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:04.840
that show. Though. Besides the
fact that the Bryan on screen connection,
658
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:10.360
the story, the TV was just
better. I told you I was.
659
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:14.440
I'm watching Home Improvement for my sleepy
time. That's fair. Such a good
660
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:15.800
show. That's fair. Same error
makes me a giggle every single time.
661
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:19.400
It's like, oh man, these
like life lessons in these stories like are
662
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.559
real Like one of like thet I
didn't realize how like serious that show kind
663
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.719
of got then. I know two
and I was like this one girl like
664
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:30.559
was basically like her friend more than
like a mother, and she was like
665
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:34.400
a mom, was like a cokehead
and she was like like sleeping around like
666
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:37.599
it was like it was like but
it was like more like about the girl
667
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.000
and like what that has to Look
what kind of effect that has when the
668
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:45.400
child has to become like the parents, which is situation that's heavy, it's
669
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:52.480
very very The blonde girl Kelly Kelly
her mom, Yeah, yeah, she
670
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:54.599
was like go ahead to go back
to like aa or na like should go
671
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:57.840
back. Like it was like she
like relapsed. It was about like her
672
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.199
relapsing. Yeah, it's like shit
that happened in real life but people wouldn't
673
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.519
talk about so then the show is
going to talk about it. I didn't
674
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:06.400
realize that show's got that deep Like
back then, I mean that's like the
675
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.519
joke, but right now covering like
like yeah, it's like this made up
676
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:14.280
story of this ghetto kid in this
rich family. But then they're they're they're
677
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:16.679
the stories within the weaven, like
you should just talk to Uncle Phil and
678
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:20.039
just tell them, you know,
like there's always some like truthing like yeah
679
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.760
you should just talk to them,
or money stuff or yeah you scratch your
680
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:28.239
dad's car like all real life shit. Yeah, there'sn't really. Four Days
681
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:30.880
aren't just not like that. Now
they're all about vampire kids and about you
682
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.800
know, they're not like realistic,
amore. I don't even know what a
683
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:36.880
real show is. I don't they
existing. Yeah, I guess. I
684
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:38.920
guess they're all just like fantasy.
There's no real shows anymore, No,
685
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.480
that's for sure. Yeah, we
got too bored with reality. I've been
686
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:50.400
watching Cheers. Yeah, yeah,
it's a good before. But they are
687
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:57.079
so well crafted. They're really funny, they're super tight, they're shot well.
688
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:02.719
I mean when something like that happens
now it's prestige TV, everyone shocked.
689
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:06.760
But it used to be the norm. Right Yeah. Yeah, I
690
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:08.760
guess no, that's a whole It's
like, yeah, it's like man,
691
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:13.320
TV was just done. Think about
how much money it costs a shoot an
692
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:17.079
episode of Cheers. Yeah go anywhere? Yeah zero, They seldom go anywhere
693
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:22.199
live audience, yeah, Seinfeld,
Right, there's three locations. Yeah,
694
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.719
whether they're real or a set.
Yeah, a little bit of in in
695
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:30.960
the uh, like around the studio, in his apartment, and then in
696
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.400
the restaurant. Yeah, they did
some exteriors in Boston, but like I've
697
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:38.320
walked past where where it was cheers. Yeah. Yeah, now there's like
698
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:42.360
two fake bars. Yeah. Yeah, we got like the stock images from
699
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:45.599
Seinfeld in New York, Like,
yeah, that restaurant. I've been in
700
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:49.239
that restaurant. Yeah, like but
the act there never wasn't shot inside.
701
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:52.199
It looks nothing like that in there. It's decent. I've had it really.
702
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.320
Yeah. I got a little take
a picture in front of that sign
703
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:59.360
I did. It's lit iconic.
Yeah, I got the little omelets solid.
704
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:02.960
Let you get the big salad.
No, they I think they do
705
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.760
have Seinfeld jokes on the menu,
but I don't know if they go,
706
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:13.039
all right, we should rate this
thing. Rate them on a cork screws
707
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:19.920
or something. What's the triple the
triple corkle cor make twist? The twists
708
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.000
is skateboarding? Yeah, and then
they took it well, I think they
709
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:23.800
used the same games. All right, Yeah, let's go with Mick twists.
710
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:28.679
How many make twists you got?
It sounds like a yeah, it.
711
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:31.480
Does they have those? Do they? Yes? I know Taco Bell
712
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:35.639
has those little like those are hard. Those are still fire because they're warm,
713
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.719
the hard ones. Right. What
is it called sentiment twist? Sentiment
714
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:43.199
twists? Yeah, it's literally just
like a cheat your owne meets fucking truro
715
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:45.519
alright. Talked about it for the
first time in a long time the other
716
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.599
night. It's good fast foods pop
by my house and it's a brand new
717
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.840
Taco Bell So like worth dude,
the final or craving box Dude, what
718
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:55.119
a fucking steal. You get those, you get those twists, you get
719
00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.719
a hard taco five layer burrito and
like a chiloup. Oh that's a man
720
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:06.320
a drink and the thing five dollars
only crap I'm going to talk about Yeah,
721
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:13.400
right after, I'm gonna give this
fuck four solid twists twists. I
722
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.280
love it. I'm gonna do the
same. Maybe I'll give it a three
723
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:19.239
nine. It's just an equal out
with my football guy was like three seven,
724
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.480
three eight, Yeah, three nine. I liked it. I liked
725
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:23.760
it. I think it's still just
like a disconnect for me in single person
726
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:29.559
sports. There's something in my brain
that doesn't and although Sean White's really cool.
727
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:32.840
There's nothing that like screams. I
love Sean White. To me,
728
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.159
I like him. I think he's
cool. I think his his dedication to
729
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:39.760
sports cool. Let's see what Tony
Hawk. You know, there's nothing that
730
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:44.440
like screams like. I love Tony. I relate so much to Tony.
731
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:46.840
Yeah, n, I ain't got
any of that in me, but it
732
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:50.719
it's cool. There's a lot of
behind the scenes footage you've never seen for
733
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.440
sure, which makes the documentary cool. Obviously, if you just see ESPN
734
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:58.320
clips, it's not fun. So
yeah, it's cool. I'm missing for
735
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:01.119
as well. I will say that
it's probably not having seen the whole thing.
736
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:04.880
It's probably too long because all of
these are too long, all of
737
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:10.679
them. Yea, every everything could
be cut down because they I think that
738
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:15.719
they fall in love with their own
you know, it's I got this really
739
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:17.800
cool footage. I want to use
this. It's like, well, it
740
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:22.719
doesn't really work. It looks cool, but don't you know this particular that's
741
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:29.159
not a good example of this particular
show. But make these commitments. They
742
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:31.599
sign contracts to do X number of
episodes, and so they feel like they
743
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:36.639
have to do that many episodes rather
than that I liked it. I liked
744
00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:39.320
it as nearly as much as the
Tony Hawk that we watched. The Tony
745
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:42.599
Hawk was good too, it was, it was really good. I don't
746
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:46.480
know. I think the thing I
feel about individual sports, because like powerless
747
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:51.599
sports goes back to what you were
saying earlier. I always thought I never
748
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:53.079
thought about like winning or whatever.
I just thought about it. But the
749
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:59.000
performance itself, it's like like how
will I do and if and if again
750
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:02.199
if I fuck up? Like how
will I handle it on the platform or
751
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:06.239
whatever. And it's same kind of
thing with like if you're if you're a
752
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:09.280
singer, if you're an actor or
whatever. I mean, you might have
753
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:13.280
a bunch of people around you,
but it really comes down to your own
754
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:15.880
personal performance, how you handle it, how you handle these sports are funny
755
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:21.719
in particular because there they are like
a mix of obviously athleticism, like contorting
756
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:23.880
your body through air, but it's
it's still like figure skating, like it's
757
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:30.039
still art. It's more of a
performance performance than a sport per se.
758
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:34.440
It's like a performance competition. Yeah
yeah, that's the whole rabbit hole.
759
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:37.519
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I've got I've been in this conversation.
760
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:42.239
I've got a fat debate with me. Yeah, we've debated like sport and
761
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:45.599
I went deep with my buddy who's
a professional dancer, and I was just
762
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:49.880
saying, dances in a sport.
I understand how people get mad at that
763
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.760
because they want to be part of
a sport. But to me, being
764
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.920
part of a sport doesn't elevate things. I'm not saying basketball is up here
765
00:47:55.960 --> 00:47:59.199
because it's a sport. I'm just
saying it's more like a sport. We
766
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:02.000
got the scoreboard, the standardization is
way more clear, and to me,
767
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:08.679
I think that's the key. It's
more standardization, standardization and so yeah,
768
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:13.599
like there's clear black and white rules, but is the But there's the problem
769
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.360
the argument Also, it's like,
yeah, there's something that are like here's
770
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.239
the score, that is how you
win, do this, But then you
771
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:22.000
have other involvement like referees for sure, and then you start getting into like,
772
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.280
well that's the same thing as like
a judge close. I don't think
773
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:30.519
it is, because there's yeah,
because the judge, because the ref isn't
774
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.000
making their their judgment calls based on
a black and white rule. Some of
775
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.920
the times the rules are Harry,
Especially football, I don't know if they're
776
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.079
Harry. Football rules are Harry.
I think making the call is Harry.
777
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:44.440
I don't think the rules are Harry. Rules are very black and white and
778
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:49.639
all. But I think the enforcements
subjective. That's why I said the enforcements
779
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.559
Harry, but the rule is not
Harry. Yeah, they're they're written like
780
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:57.599
law. Like I used to literally
study NC TWA basketball rule books because then
781
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.599
I'd be because I was the guy
talking to the ref all day making friends,
782
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:01.840
and so I want to talk his
lingo, and I say, hey,
783
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:04.920
man, that's crazy, but you
know when my feet are planted this
784
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.039
way, and I would always come
at the some of them love me something
785
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:12.719
hey to me. But and I
don't know how judges and snowboarding does.
786
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:17.119
Unless a Mick twist performed perfectly is
always a nine point zero, then the
787
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:22.719
rules are the whole. The rules
are subjective. Bodybuilding rules are subjective as
788
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.360
fuck. It says, have good
vascularity, What does that look like?
789
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:31.159
Right? It doesn't per inch.
Basketball says two feet facing ninety degrees taking
790
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:34.840
a charge. You got to be
there before you know. Some vascularity is
791
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.119
really ugly too. By the way. Yeah, it's the opposite of aesthetic.
792
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:40.159
Yeah, especially in pro body building. But I think my bigger point
793
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:45.599
is that people for some reason want
to be a sport where why why can't
794
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:50.559
it be an athletic competition? It
was like MMA sport. Yeah, I
795
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:54.119
think it's cut even though the judging
you're right, is more also subformance of
796
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:58.159
like your skill. No it is, and I don't really care. Uh
797
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.599
and fighting might even mean its own
thing. And the judges they are a
798
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:02.559
big deal. If you don't knock
out or submit, then the judges are
799
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:08.920
more uh more gray area than snowboarding. I wouldn't see more real scoring,
800
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:13.840
like a jab is worth half a
point. I don't know why they're still
801
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:19.199
using boxing judges. Well, the
whole things look like MMA's. It's bigger
802
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:22.280
than you know, it's not bigger
than boxing, but as big as fuck.
803
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.079
Now I feel like it is bigger
than boxing now. I don't know.
804
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:30.280
The money's still flowing from somewhere Old
Vegas. Yeah, money laundry maybe
805
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:34.840
either way. Yeah, I guess
my biggest organs. I still don't understand
806
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:37.000
why people are insulted by saying athletic
competition, because that's what I call dancing.
807
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:39.320
I said, well, it could
be competition, and it's athletic as
808
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:43.119
fuck. You can argue your more
athletic in Jordan. I don't even that
809
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.440
doesn't hurt my feelings, but to
call it a sport just feels weird to
810
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:52.199
me. Yeah, yeah, it's
exactly, but it's it's a performance poker.
811
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:54.960
Poker. Poker's weird too, right, and yeah, and then the
812
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:58.679
athletics and people will define athletics.
I'm like, well, there is a
813
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:01.000
definition for athletics. You know,
it's typically like run, jump, agility,
814
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:05.360
hand eye coordination, Like, well, where are we in poker?
815
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:08.679
None of that? Right? The
NASCAR one's a big argument. Yeah,
816
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:12.519
I'm not saying it. You can
say it's harder than basketball. I'm not
817
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.400
arguing it's not harder, but like, why are you so tied to be
818
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:17.239
sport. I'm not saying you're not
an athlete. I've never said people aren't
819
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:21.199
athletes either, But people get so
particular about that it's a sport. Line
820
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.079
is the sports a sport? Probably
not. It's an es sport. They
821
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:28.440
made their own category because they know
i'd bash them. They do with their
822
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:30.679
own name. But that's very like
esports is very much like NASCAR, like
823
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:35.039
race sports. Yeah, fighting sports
and fight sports. Yeah, they already
824
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.960
do have their own try Yeah,
they say combat sports. They do say
825
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.559
combats, combat sports. I don't
know about races. I think there is
826
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:43.800
something like I think there's like race
sports that's got it. Twenty twenty three
827
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:45.480
we got we got what's the White
Company? We got the White Company and
828
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:50.400
race spite, white space, white
space, and race sports. I don't
829
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.960
know where's the collab. I don't
know where we are. NASCAR sewn white
830
00:51:54.000 --> 00:52:00.400
collaud called white, white space,
white race, white race sports, Fast,
831
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:05.760
Fast and Furious Race Wars. Yea
from the from episode one of of
832
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:09.360
Fast and Furious Race makes sense.
Yeah, race Wars makes more sense than
833
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:15.360
fucking sport racing. Yeah yeah,
all right people, Yeah, hit them
834
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.639
Dean working find you know at having
a kilos if you you know, down
835
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.519
to pick us some coffee, someb
merge or you know the debt Dean sidors
836
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:30.159
do CUK. The journey to nationals, Master's Nationals, that's not you don't
837
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:31.360
got to throw it in there.
Yeah, I'm a Master's now white Space
838
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:37.400
Nationals. Yeahs, I'm in Uh, I'm embracing my national or my uh,
839
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:42.679
masters, you should get my new
master's Uh what is it thirty five?
840
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:47.199
So yes, power lifting, I
think it's forty, so you can
841
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:51.159
compete at if you're thirty four,
you can compete as a master even though
842
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:52.880
it's until thirty five. If it's
in the year that you turn thirty five,
843
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:57.119
should I do it? Yeah?
The call has got to be not
844
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.440
crazy, right, weightlifting, it's
considerably lower than the regular Yeah, that'd
845
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:04.719
be kind of cool. I'm a
national level weightlifter before I'm a national level
846
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:12.760
powerlifter. Yeah, I think for
class I could qualify like with like seventy
847
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:15.920
kilos less than I qualified for like
senior. That's just what I need.
848
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:19.039
Yeah, senior National. I can
clean a jerk three fifteen. That'll give
849
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.039
me there somehow, right, Yeah, easily, that would be kind of
850
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:24.199
cool. Maybe work weight class would
you be? How much did you weigh?
851
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:30.119
I could get into nineties? There's
an eighty nine, Yeah, one
852
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:32.320
of the light but I could find
my way at eighty nine. That would
853
00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:35.840
be kind of cool. I probably
won't do it, but it would be
854
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:40.840
cool to call for and compete in
powerlifting weightlifting nationals same same year, and
855
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:44.760
it would be both my first Nationals. I've never been in Nationals. That'd
856
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:47.320
be cool. I could do that. I should do it, bitch,
857
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:51.800
now, bro the calls are way
high and then be clicking on that button
858
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:55.000
like they're Jordan. Once you can't
get in, you can't get in,
859
00:53:55.079 --> 00:54:00.039
so like the sign ups. Yeah, man, So we're gonna keep using
860
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:07.519
the term masters because apparently we don't
have master bedrooms anymore, because I think
861
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:12.639
it's a different master background. I
don't know, well that here's the origin
862
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:19.039
of the phrase, Matt master bedroom
didn't appear until nineteen twenty five, way
863
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:30.920
past when slavery was abolished. There's
no connection at all any uh House show
864
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:36.440
on Netflix or any selling sunset.
It's all very deliberately no more using that
865
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:38.519
phrase. That's what we're talking about
the last podcast. So that's primary.
866
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:42.000
I don't understand primary. Yeah,
I don't. So I didn't know that
867
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:45.239
about the nineteen twenty five things.
I just assumed that, and I'm Wilson
868
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:49.239
was like, okay that it made
sense to me. But also now it
869
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:52.679
doesn't. Again, it doesn't.
I don't have to eliminate that word everywhere
870
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:59.320
or nowhere. Let's be on that. I could care less. Yeah,
871
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:00.880
it's Also, it doesn't hurt me
to say primary, but the problem it
872
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:05.440
doesn't. But it's also just like
where does that end? That's my point.
873
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:08.760
No, I think there's way worse
than this. That's probably true,
874
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:12.519
but I think that's I think I'm
not a slippery slope guy either. I
875
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:15.679
just think it's dumb. I think
it's worse to say, oh, can
876
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:19.000
you grab my wife beater shirt?
No, wife feater is bad. I
877
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.840
saw people on a TikTok calling it
a wife lover shirt. Yeah, I
878
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:25.480
heard another one. Swear to god, I heard that. I heard another
879
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:30.519
one. You got I'm gonna it
was like someone that does outfits, like,
880
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:34.159
oh, I'm gonna pair him this
loose fit, uh wife lover shirt
881
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:37.199
with a wife lover and I'm like, okay, that's so, that's happening
882
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:42.079
now. Yeah, I don't know
a shirt, a tank how about a
883
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:45.360
tank top? Tank works? What
do they call him in Australia Jersey's jersey?
884
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:47.840
Yeah, jerseys get sick. I
think I think with the thin strap
885
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:51.360
should be a jersey. No,
that's all me and you and everybody in
886
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:52.760
this room. That's all we called
Jersey. We're gonna stark on the jersey
887
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:55.880
anywhere. If he's the fuck out
everybody, then what's a real jersey,
888
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:59.960
like a soccer jersey? Now it's
called a UNI. Oh, that is
889
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:02.239
called the Uni. Yep, man, I got my Uni. And then
890
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:06.719
I think, I think if you're
wearing a like the suit style to Catholic
891
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:12.199
school, real Uni, Yeah,
we're gonna have some gray areas. Yeah.
892
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:15.840
I guess maybe they call it something
else, nont know, Ladies,
893
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gentlemen, New episode Wednesday Friday.
Check out our Apparlod Company of Pearl three
894
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:22.679
s B dot c oh and I'm
Seld Mike Quem find me. I'll catch
895
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:25.239
the next one. A Matt the
Jim McDean all the social media. This
896
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:30.880
show is fifty That is a word
at fifties just numbers fifty percent facts.
897
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It's a speaker Prime podcast in association
with iHeartMedia on the
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So I have a question for you
guys if either of you ever like gotten
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into shaving with a straight razor doing
it myself. Yes, no, No,
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Like the Pirate one. That was
the first time I ever saw that
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was Peter pan Oh. Yeah,
that's the first time I ever saw that.
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I got really into, like and
like I've wanted one as like a
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like a pocket knife almost like a
weapon. Yeah, but never did.
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Yeah. They do look cool.
Yeah, they look cool. They look
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some of the guys and that isn't
like the bad guy Jerry Rafferty saw playing
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in the background the cops ear off. It's Joker Rock one. I feel
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like it's a Joker style weapon cartoon
could could you just had a regular knife
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and dark Knight right, he had
a regular knife. I just feel like
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it's darker style weapon. They're that's
considered a ten out of ten movie on
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that list you guys see those lists
that pop up on Instagram, like no,
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like five ten out of ten or
ten ten out of ten movies The
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Jokers one. Yeah, he's one
of them. Yeah. I had this
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conversation with you know, sam My
Son the other day and he was like,
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no, Batman Begins is a better
movie because it actually makes sense from
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from beginning to end. The third
act of Dark Knight doesn't make any sense
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at all. It's like, yeah, okay, moever, that's true.
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But it's such a fucking good movie. I love that movie. I could
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just watch that movie. Every nearly
sense though about Dark Knight because it doesn't
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flow from begins. Yeah, and
the Joker's plan ever makes any sense?
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And is that maybe part of it
though, right, because he's insane?
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Maybe, but that's that's the whole
idea, is that he's out. No
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one is always one step at too. But the Joe whole Joker thing is,
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yeah, that he's mentally deranged.
So you can't like, oh,
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what he's thinking. Does he want
to kill Batman? Or does he not
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want to kill Batman? Because he
says I kill kill the bat at some
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at some point, and then he
also says, you can't exist without me
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and I can't exist without you.
Not it's not a direct quote, but
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the same, you know, like
that sounds like a sane person. Good
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needs evil and evil needs good.
That's a good movie. I think we
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can look past it. Yeah,
But anyway, he's like, I don't
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know, man, I've never got
into begin I watched it like twice.
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I liked it. I liked them
all. They try and tie it in
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at the very beginning with a little
meat up in the in the in the
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driving parking lot whatever. And I
never shaved with the straight razor, but
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by Barbara does I did. Yes, we have the same Barbara guess.
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I actually I bought one about like
twelve twelve bucks with the changeable blades off
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of off of Amazon, thinking that
I because I always just wanted to try
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it. And the first time that
I messed with it, I was freaked
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the fuck out. The whole time. I was sure I was gonna like
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an artery or something and just die
in the Yeah, I'm good. Yeah,
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And then like the next time I
picked it up, I suddenly knew
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what I was doing. Now,
like Sweeney, Yeah, my neck is
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an issue because it's you know,
uneven, and I'm old and stuff,
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and so it's hard to it's hard
to really get a smooth but up here
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that's the leather leather belt. I
just got the changeable blades. I have
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one of those, actually have my
dad's really from forever ago. Yeah,
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but uh uh to me, that
was a little bit of a metaphor for
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the Sean White thing with the skateboard
and like he's awkward, you know,
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four tries and suddenly he's amazing and
like amazing, amazing. Yeah, they
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say it with a snowboard too,
right, he says the last to pick
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it up as a family. But
he's just like jaming and four run.
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If you're the transition of snowboarding is
like, oh, this is easier than
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skateboarding, yes, sah. And
then surfs surf. Yeah, I use
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the surfer surf and feel different to
you surfs. Wanted to surf but never
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did. Yeah, like I've done
it, but like I never was like
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a surfer. Yeah, I've done
it maybe five times up, you know,
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probably got up. He never like
grinded it. Wait, no,
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no, no, I feel like
actually Sacramento and he mentions Mount Hood.
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Do we know where he's from?
Uh? Is he from like Portland,
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Seattle, Vancouver or some ship because
he mentioned San Diego because he mentioned Mount
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Hood a lot, which I was
just Mount Hood is one of the very
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few, if not the only,
main snowboard area that's open year round.
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So it makes sense because obviously there's
Tahoe and Big Bear, if he's from
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San Diego, that are much closer. But if they're only open for three,
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four seasons or months, it makes
sense to go up to Mount Hood
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because it's not that far, which
is going no, uh yeah, that's
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all I really had. But the
savant thing is interesting because I feel like
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that's a rare we talked about in
the past episode. Even my home's being
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good at quarterback from June New Year
is less rare, I feel like than
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literally hopping on a skateboard and flying
off a ramp when you're four. Yeah,
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a lot of people don't realize that
he was just just like, I
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mean, you won gold medals at
X Games right and invert and started there
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right foot the footage he's fucking like
twelve and Tony Hawks twenty three and they're
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hanging out, Like, you don't
just randomly get to hang out with Tony
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Hawk unless you can throw it out. Yeah, those are like the vault.
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I think those Vulcan videos like that. Yeah, everyone's skating in there.
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Said he's never And the other interesting
thing which makes it even more savanti
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is because like one definition of being
a good athlete is being able to see
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something and replicate it with your body, whether that's hand I or body control
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or whatever it might be. You
watch Michael Jordan do a certain crossover.
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If you have enough basketball school,
you can go do that same And he
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never watched a skate video until Tony
Hawk made him watch one that he was
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in. Yeah, you know what
I mean. So I'm like, and
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obviously he's skating with other people,
so you could pick up that. That's
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so savanti to like. And the
amount of like tricks he made up or
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invented. Yeah, like that's that's
really some kind of like you know,
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Mozart brain power. The last run
is the name maybe John White. The
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last one. I think I dove
into an episode and a half maybe two.
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I got through the first one.
I only watched the first one.
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There's there's four total. Yeah,
I think I'm out of dug into two.
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best athlete in the world. Yeah, well, I think it's like Tommy
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John surgery than it's part perfect,
I guess, I don't know. Yeah,
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where like they like stick around.
Yeah it's not long. He had types
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just weird. Yeah, that was
just like wired the wrong way and put
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the wrong pipe on the wrong valve
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art surgeries in his two weeks of being
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seen all that in part, like
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the older documentaries and other random things
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like really interesting and cool and like
seeing like you know him thrive. That
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train boat. My friends that I
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for wakeboarding and boating, and then
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shob but I'm not doing kick flips. Like some of that didn't come easy
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but nothing like clicked. Yeah,
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a day of dedication, just reps
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of the most grindiest all It's like
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day, every single day. That
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the magnitude of the grinds obviously different. Like hitting golf balls. Yeah,
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you're back gets sore, you get
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bone pit walking back up and doing
a thousand of those. It's much more
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difficult than me putting a ball on
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like that, and I just didn't
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repercussions of it. But I was
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into me and my buddy Victor,
my buddy Eric ran into Sean at uh
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North Star and he was at the
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pretty famous by then, Oh yeah, he was huge by that. So
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we go down there and we literally
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with a camera and they're at the
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the park and like do the grinding
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stuff. But the park like you
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don't see like people who aren't going
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skateboard, like you couldn't get me
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same. There's like Tony Hawk isn't
gonna go in a street video, you
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know what. I think it's not
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and we just started talking to him. He's just like this fucking most chill
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dude. My buddy Victor ends up
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want to go I want to go
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the park, And it's like my
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fucking rode together. Like it was
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pretty awesome just talking with him anyways, and it was it was pleasant and
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he was Yeah, he had this
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was had a look for sure branded
him. Yeah. And I remember asking
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him about like those face masks he
always wore, and he's like, oh,
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yeah, dude, he's just T
shirts. He would just rip off
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the shirt, the sleeve on a
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that. Yeah, that's great,
that's awesome. It. Uh. The
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family aspect of it really strikes in
that first episode, like like the family
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enabled it. Even though they didn't
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figure out how to do things the
cheapest possible way, and they all,
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well, they must have seen the
savant otherwise, like because their parents seem
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pretty normal, who knows because it
is a movie, but they ripped them
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out of school. Yeah, you
know what I mean, so they must
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have seen like all, this kid's
different. Yeah. Otherwise, you know,
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I think most responsible parents are like, no, we need to you
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know, at least go to at
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making six figures by the time he
was like what fifteen Did they shoot a
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millionaire of it? I don't know
if that's that's exactly correct. Was the
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second episode? Second episode? Because
I shouldn't watched it if we weren't all
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watching it, Like we talked about, they all messed together. Now,
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I don't know when it stopped.
Did they show him kind of separate from
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his family? Did you guys see
that? Yeah? Okay, so yeah,
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no spoilers, but spoilers. The
money part and family part become a
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big part of the story. He's
it in the first one where the mom
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talks about money a little bit and
being his manager, but then it basically
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at one point he says, fuck
it and I need to spend my money,
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you know. He said that a
little bit. Yeah, and then
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he started to put his mom out. His mom wasn't his manager anymore.
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He got a new man, like
a real manager. And then where I
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left off, he's of I think
financial success and even says it. He's
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like, I got no friends,
I got no girlfriend, I got no
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family. Now, like I eliminated
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which is also like sad, but
this I mean to be the absolute
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god of something. I don't think
you can have a help in your partner
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and your wife and your family.
Like balance isn't a thing when you want
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an unbalanced result. He was kind
of like a Tiger Woods separation and golf
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like right, Tiger speaking golf like
there was like he would win by like
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ten strokes in a tournament, maybe
even more when you think about like because
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you're in it, so it maybe
seems out way do you. But for
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me on the outside, single snowboarder, nobody you can. And I can
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name a couple of golfers. I
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grew up watching in like DC videos, like you know, like because like
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I was really into it and I'd
watch the video like, but I can
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name like five, but even I
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even like White's still snowboarding, yeah, or even like skateboarding. You got
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Tony Hawk, Ryan Sheckler made yeah
that too. But even me, I'm
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equal fan for all this because I
watched it. I like the X Games.
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I'd watch him every year. But
but like Rob Dear Dick, right,
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there's a handful of names that you
can kind of throw in there with
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Tony. I can't name a single
person in Sean's world beside Sean his his
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gap professionally. I don't know about
pure skill wise, but his gap professionally
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there was the only other one I
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I have is Michael Phelps, where
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wise even close to the convo.
And obviously I'm not a swimmer or a
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swimming fanatic, but that's why it's
all equal in mind. It's also an
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Olympic sport, so it's kind of
like the same ballpark yea, yeah,
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yeah. And also like that that
time when he was fit, it's like
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kind of like is it what that
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even nearly that populous lukewarm. It's
like very like it went like this,
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and like we're down here. You
think spaceboarding isn't really like that big.
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People are still going, but it's
like it became so unaffordable for the casual.
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personality? Because a lot of sports
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I feel like only go as far
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isn't what it is without twenty Hawk, right popularity was snowboarding probably wasn't gonna
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do unless another Sean White comes across. Yeah now, And also like this
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is just like I'm sure in Japan, maybe snowboarding is fucking massive because it's
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that are winning all the Sean White
they're all and that same thing is happening
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in skateboarding now too interesting as these
kids in Japan are just dominating these like
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foot sports footboard sports right now.
And like for us in the US,
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like I don't think we're still riding
that high of like marketing because like it's
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these other countries that are kind of
their their growth is over there now where
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I think we're more nationally, the
growth is going in the other direction.
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You know. It's like kind of
like falling away from us because we don't
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have like the top guys anymore.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
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It is interesting. Did the X
Games stopped for a bit? It just
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ended, It just finished and it
was on. Was there a gap in
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competition? I don't think so.
I think it's always gone. It's just
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not as popular, yeah, because
I know they tried to drag an esports.
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They didn't like the duty thing for
a bit. The Do Tour esports
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too, but the Do Tour used
to run by the State Fair and I
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would go and watch it. Yeah, yeah, the Yeah, the X
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Games just ended. You're like,
here's the thing too, like like nikin
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like third Yeah, you know what
I mean. The top guy that won
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was this kid. I think he's
pretty sure he's uh from Japan. I'm
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pretty sure if I remember correctly.
Yeah, it used to be like it
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used to take over ESPN and it
was actually perfect, right because you're in
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the gap from basketball. Baseball's middle
of the season, so it isn't is
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exciting, and the NFL hasn't started
big ESPN blast in the middle of summer.
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Well ESPN started it, so that's
yeah. Yeah, but I'm just
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saying like it was a perfect schedule. Yeah, it was. It was
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like perfect. I think that this
extreme sports hype yeah, isn't it's not
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resonating with the new youth. I
wonder why that is. I think because
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it's just it's just kind of I
don't know, phased out. I think
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this new generation doesn't give a shit
about it as much. They're not think
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about like this like those sports in
general, like a lot. Yeah,
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they're still like the kids that are
skating because it is like a something that
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anybody can do anywhere, right,
Like, so I think that it's also
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more affordable. It's more you buy
one hundred other board, you have the
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rest and you got and you're good
if Yeah, you could make it snowboarding
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like tricks. I'm doing even even
to even get on the mountain and own
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a board for sure. So you
want to go, I want to I
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want to start sports. I don't
have a I don't have any gear,
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and I want to starboard tomorrow.
You gotta you gotta two tanks of gas
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back and forth. You gotta find
somewhere to stay. What's a board cost
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two hundred three hundred dude? No, like for just the bindings on.
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If you're talking like average good quality
board four hundred bucks, let's say we
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rent one hundreds hundred bucks lift ticke, it's gonna be three na, sayeah,
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what's to live the day? Yeah, so we're in a grand deep
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food hotel. Yeah, and you're
talking about fucking uh clothes And that is
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if you're lucky enough to live in
Sacramento where you can drive half hour if
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you've got to flop more. Jacket
is yeah, sure four bucks. No
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much of the pants are three four
hunds. Are any goggles? Findings three
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hundred dollars? Goggles three hundred dollars? Is interesting, You're talking about ten
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thousand dollars set up at this point. I mean skiing historically, Skiing historically
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was that right, Like skiing was
known as right. So do you think
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snowboard just kind of took that over
just because they knew the market was there
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was pure business because no way that
boards worth that to the technology and these
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boards though, Dude's like there's a
lot of tech and more than skateboarding.
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Yeah, especially like the way that
they So it's so funny. The shape
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of the snowboard now is the complete
was even when I was like into it.
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So now the park boards that used
to be like noses a kind of
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up in the middle was more flat. Now they build the street boards where
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the middle isn't touching the uh almost
the snow It's almost like the complete opposite
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shape now. Interesting. So like
there's like a lot of tech and like
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how to make things pop better and
how to like it. You get a
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little spring out of it. Maybe, Yeah, it's like totally different now,
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like they've literally done the opposite of
what it was, and only in
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the you know, let's say what
fifteen years that like when I was really
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into it, when I was taking
my you know, early twenties or like
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late teens or whatever. A decade. Yeah, over over a decade.
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It's it's like a complete different thing
now, pensive now, and it's like
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it's so you have to have a
lot of money to get into snowboarding and
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stay in it and then stay in
it. And I think this generation of
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like youth kids are just like they're
not interested in that. There's other things
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they can do. Now makes sense, It does make sense. Some interesting
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I found about Sean White is like
early footage, like twelve years old to
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maybe even eighteen, Like the most
stereotypical stoner listens to Sublime skateboards all day
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guy, And then you see his
under the interviews and it's like he just
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got like educated overnight. Now he's
talking like you know what I mean,
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Like he's ESPN athlete and obviously he
had a million reps of being interviewed and
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so like the later interviews when he's
all clean cut he's got like a he's
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crushing those interviews and speaking more normal, and he's dating Nina Dobreeve or whatever,
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you know who's in the same Hollywood
vein crushes interviews and looks. It's
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just funny like maybe that had to
do with it too, right, where
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like the early days of the sport
were this grunge his hair looks different,
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preppie sport, you know, like
his his goggles were Burton, and then
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they were Oakley, and then you
see the last ones. Oh no,
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I don't Prada, Oh yeah,
yeah yeah, and then you're like,
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okay, so like this sport has
kind of changed with him. He's kind
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of changed with it. I'm not
saying it's good or bad, but to
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where maybe snowboarding is now if you're
walking product goggles that you're going to smash
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doing three backflips, you're probably doing
you know, different things. And then
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what all the kids want. They
don't want to rip off the tea and
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put it on his mask. They
want to out a mask. Yeah you
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know, so like it's just a
different era. Well, it's like almost
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like remember like the surfing skates and
the freewhere bro remember those, Yeah,
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they were they were everywhere, and
that a lot of their revenue came from
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like board sales of like snowboard gear, and like once that started to fall
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down, like they all disappeared.
Yeah, surfence get I used to go
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to the cool clothes and ship.
Yeah yeah, what do you have now,
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Tillies, I guess is kind of
their replicaive ties. I don't think
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they're selling snowboard board and mostly clothes. Yeah, shoes and clothes and whatever
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trendy, Yeah, clothes or whatever. The sunglasses. Yeah. There are
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a couple of like major injuries that
he sustains in the course of episode one,
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And the craziest thing about it is
that, just like a human trait,
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that we can watch something where we
already know the and yet we're like
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our heart rate goes up and we're
on the edge of our seat and was
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like, oh, is he gonna
make it? Like, well, I
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know he's alive because we saw him, you know, at the beginning of
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this thing in the contemporary times,
and we know he's okay, and we
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know it didn't affect his career,
Like, oh my god, he's so
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fucking injured. Yeah. The pipe
shit is like it's so fucking gnarly.
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I can't imagine because like you're also
vulnerable to this, like the conditions,
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say, like when everybody's launching off
that rampic if it starts getting a little
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slick, you come off that dude, and there's no it seems scary,
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same every time, like a half
doors, would you know what's gonna happen?
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And obviously boards attached to you.
It seems like skateboarding because I watched
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a ton of the Summer X Games, not a ton of the Winner,
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and all those guys are so good
at landing safe on skateboarding, I'd assume,
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Yeah, snowboarding just seems more dangerous, Like obviously the heights are similar
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ish you probably get a little more
air on snow but and perfectly you know
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they do the easy slide on their
knees and they look like nothing ever happened
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where you didn't really ever see like
a soft cool landing on. You're getting
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wrecked. They get wrecked and flipped
over. You're you're doing the pretzel deal.
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Yeah, the spine those are essentially
concrete. Yeah, those packed those
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packed pipes like that or you know, you can't even put your fist in
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it in the ground. You have
their rock salts, you eat shit you
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have too soft. It's gonna break
you off and you're gonna be Yeah,
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it's gnarly like that shit is so
gnarly. Yeah. I had a couple
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of kids I grew up with that
were deep into snowboarding at the time,
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and I think one dude was making
a run at the X Games like he
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was super legit. Don't quote me
on the story, jump a freeway.
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He started doing some of this crazy
shit and landing in a bank. It
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just yet shattered his pelvis and just
you know, he's I saw him when
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he was like twenty two. He's
walking with a cane. Yeah. Once
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got yeah. Once you Once you
lose your footing or your balance with one
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of those boards on, there's no
towarding your body like how it's like you're
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just a you're gonna free fall,
and however, you just hope for the
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best. Yeah, yeah, I
try to not land on your head.
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One of my friends in his late
forties early fifties shattered his leg snowboarding.
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Yeah, just like got fell into
a hole and just just broke it off.
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Just like skiing is just as crazy, right, I mean, they're
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doing people will just you know,
die hitting trees. You know, is
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you're a president or something. I
remember hearing as a kid somebody famous.
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Uh an, maybe that's it.
But someone a tree, someone recently just
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hit a tree that's famous and past. Uh snowboarding or skiing like another really
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famous person. Does that happen when
you're google it probably pop right upthing happen
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when you're hunting the powder and ship? Or does it? Will that happen
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to a casual Uh? Usually you
know, if you're staying on the if
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you're staying on the run, you're
not gonna die. You're gonna be fine
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because they're usually just very huge,
like football field wide, you know what
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I mean, and you're just going
down and like yeah, you can still
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get fucked up, but you're not
You're not gonna hit a tree. They
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were going like in the back country
and you're going like you go like could
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just say you're going down the hill, like there's like little trails you can
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go off to the side and like
that people have like made or going through
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the powder like that's when you can
get that's when you which I under stand
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that you know, you're you're skilled
enough. And now you want to go
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feel nature. I get the but
there people suffocating and like like because like
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so when the trees are getting snowed
on the trees, like around the trunk,
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the snow doesn't go there right uh, and then it kind of goes
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around the edges of little trap.
So there's a basically there's a hole that
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goes all the way down. But
then it does get like a thin layer
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of powder. So those trunks,
you just fall into that hole. And
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if you fall head first, then
your feet are stuck above you because of
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the snowboard and you can't crawl yourself. You got someone to pull you out.
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I'm out. I don't do the
snow. I do like cabins and
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coffee and shit. But but powder
ship, there's you know, very safe
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ways of going about it. Sure
because yeah, if it was all that
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dangerous, it wouldn't be popular.
But the tons of rich folk are going
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up there every weekend. Yeah,
it's just crazy. Now the prices,
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man, Like you used to be
able to get a season pass unlimited snowboarding
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for like three hundred bucks for a
season, it was like three bucks.
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That's what it tasks to go to
once pass. I think now they're probably
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like five seven hundred bucks, but
like it used to beat three hundred bucks
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and then like you're good, go
twenty times we'd skip school and we'd go.
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Yeah, but we talked about,
like where are you gonna stay?
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Because all these places are isolated and
fancy and nice, you know, like
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even an airbnb is gonna cost to
you. We were just like luckily living
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here. You drive an hour and
a half, two hours, you come
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back the same day. Yeah.
I also had at the resorts in the
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winter that were graduated already, you
know, they all lived up there yea,
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and they had cabins. We'd stay
there. But even that, Yeah,
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but as an adult used to be
affordable to us, be able to
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like a friend, you used to
be able to rent a cabin for like
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the season, for like twelve hundred
bucks a month. You have five guys
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living in there, like working at
the ski resort. It was like awesome.
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I had a bunch of buddies that
did that too, Yeah, theys
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or even rental guys. And then
you just work the fucking mountain. Yeah,
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I do a seasonal work. Yeah, kind of live the college dream.
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Yeah, and uh, Sean might
never had to do that for sure,
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No, sure, or not?
Let me get sponsored so early at
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the peak of it too, Like
that's when all the money was coming in.
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So given him a million dollars or
whatever, you know what I mean,
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Like he had pro board models.
He's gonna cut on his board,
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sales, cut on his merch you
know, like he had the timing does
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seem good because not only the popularity, but he wasn't the first guy to
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do it, so like Tony Hawk
and these guys went that route. We
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talked about in Air and some of
the Nike stuff because if you're the if
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you're get the first sneaker deal,
you're gonna get fucked. You're not gonna
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give you royalties and all that.
He probably came out at the perfect time
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to have the business was already set. They know how to take care of
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him and not screw him, and
it's at its growing height. Yea,
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Yeah, so he probably bawled out, what's he doing now? He's probably
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two years older than us. Yeah, he's about the same age. I
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think he's about around thirty seven probably, Yeah, I think what he's just
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retired your clothing company. I'm sure
he does. Yeah, I'm sure that
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I'm sure they still sell I'm sure
they still sell Burton pro model Sean White's
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stuff. Yeah, probably, but
he Yeah, I'm sure the documentary start
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to dive into that. That is
interesting and having a career. Uh what
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three Olympics, get three? That's
twelve years and this one's all building up
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to twenty twenty two Winter Games,
right, Yeah, which I assume was
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his last one. Yeah, I
believe that was, which was last year,
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And I remember watching I don't even
remember like what I watched it.
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I well, I watched this particular
part because I'm I mean, I like
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Tony Hawk, I'm Sehn White,
and I was actually it was cool to
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see Tony Hawk in this documentary talking
about Sean White as a kid. Yeah,
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but I think would you get that
at that level at all or in
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general? Yeah, because it's not
as flashy of a sport, although it
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may be expensive, so some of
the athletes are more like digestible in a
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sense and went like Adam, they're
actually cool. And then also when you're
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at the high level, I think
it's even smaller than other sports, right
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because it is kind of a world
sport. So if you get the top
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five Americans they're probably all buddies.
You know. It's not like basketball,
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where there's ten thousand people that are
all feeding to be in the NBA and
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they're all pretty good. I don't
know each other's names. Yeah, that
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was interesting. But the little drama
they talked about with those guys that did
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that expo, the little team and
they were like, hey, what's just
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like all split the money and like
not really try hard and just put on
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a good show and try I was
like, fuck that, dude, I
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want all the money. Oh,
I think you're talking about the little team
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that was against him when their kids. Oh no, I meant the when
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he was like on that there were
too the pro they were touring pro that
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was like a demo or what it
wasn't like like the Mountain de Tour.
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Yeah, and there was like cash
prize and like he was kind of an
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outsider. Yeah, they're kind of
getting an him being an outsider like early
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in that in that last episode,
because because in the next when they basically
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go on to him having no life. Yeah, And I remember, like
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even even kids, like everybody I
always here about how everybody hated Sean White.
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It is because he was kind of
like a he won. People hate
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a winner, right, either you
love and like even we were kind of
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haters, right, We kind of
liked the more niche guys. Yeah,
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you know, we were kind of
haters too because he was like the commercial
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variety. It's easy to cheer for
him, Yeah, kind of like the
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Yeah, it's too easy, but
I actually like, no, Shawn's personality
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is way better. Yeah, Mahomes
sucks for many reasons. Sean only sucks
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because he's good. Yeah, So
that was interesting. I didn't expect that.
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Maybe it was the second episode,
but do you remember that there was
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like a team that was on the
up and coming when he was a kid.
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They had like a van, there's
like five, but there's like this
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group that started to like their whole
goal was to beat him, and they
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were five friends, and Sean mentions
like, damn, I was waiting for
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my invite to be on this cool
little team and they never invited me.
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He's like, that was my next
fuel. Maybe that's the second episode.
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That's like they were kind of going
into that, I think because there's this
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group of like kids that were up
and comers and they were living the mag
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board life, renting a one room
cabin all staying together and he's like,
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oh, that's cool, and he
wanted to be there, buddy, and
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he just never got the invite.
So maybe that's like a little bit of
499
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like why he had a villain arc
because I think it was when he was
500
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:02.240
younger. It was like sixteen seventeen
eighteen. The cool kids didn't want to
501
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:03.440
be friends with them. So then
he just said, all right, fuck
502
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.079
it, I will be the lone
wolf. Just whoop everyone's ass. All
503
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.519
these guys kind of like the Arnold
thing they all like. And obviously it's
504
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:14.200
all scripted, so who knows,
right, and it's edited, but he
505
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:17.160
goes into and I think it's more
of the second episode, but he goes
506
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:19.920
and the first episode he mentions it. But like each area he has like
507
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:23.240
a certain like chip on his shoulder
and he knows why how he has this
508
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.720
ship on his shoulder, and then
he has like a certain goal every single
509
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:32.079
time string I see with all this
ship, you know, like even Kirk
510
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.279
Cousins, you know, like he
mentioned little things like, oh, my
511
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:38.200
architect, you know, put this
area for the trophy. Now I'm gonna
512
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.599
go get this trophy. You know, like all these guys are just wired
513
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.839
a little bit different. They're they're
they're very intelligent people like to be a
514
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.079
quarterback in the NFL's right, because
he isn't like, figure out a new
515
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:53.200
move like that's insane creativity. Yeah, and it's just a lot of good
516
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:57.440
brain power. An idiot can't do
that. But when you break down what
517
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:02.960
drives them, they're very like Caveman, he pissed me off gold medal.
518
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.079
I go, yeah, it's that
simple, Yeah, very primal. That
519
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:12.319
guy sucks. He you know,
he's mean. I'd go win that to
520
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:15.440
get back at him. Yeah,
or my mom wasn't there. I go
521
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:17.559
win this to get back at her. M m m. I don't have
522
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.200
any of that. Yeah, I
guess, yeah, I guess that's when
523
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:28.559
we're not liked him. Unfortunate.
He's currently thirty six six. Yeah,
524
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:30.519
he'll be a little bit. You're
right on it. Yeah, I'll be
525
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:36.559
thirty seven September and talking about like, you know, it looks like the
526
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.759
mom looked older in the footage than
she does now. She's got a lot
527
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:43.519
of work done. Yeah's money.
You put your face in the shop.
528
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:45.920
And his dad was cool, his
family seemed cool. Yeah, you know,
529
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.319
everyone crying and shit bought his mom
in the car. That was cool.
530
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:54.000
Yeah, like those gym lockers in
the garage. I was like,
531
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:58.400
oh that's old school. Yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah. The story with
532
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:00.079
the family does make it just so
relatable. You know, there's just like
533
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.799
a regular ass family. Mom's a
server. She said. They were like
534
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.640
living out of the van, like
they were like gypsies. Yeah they were.
535
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.440
Yeah, it is cool, it
is. It is kind of like
536
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:13.480
a moral of the story thing,
you know, like you ain't gotta have
537
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:15.519
all the money, but if you
got the family, you know, you're
538
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:17.200
kind of locked in. It's kind
of kind of American dream in some sense.
539
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:21.440
I was just like, dude,
like I imagine, like I couldn't
540
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:25.240
imagine being that free of like and
just living life. Yeah, like like
541
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:30.119
with my family, like what Max
a million in ten years before he was
542
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:34.200
making money though they were kind of
making you know what I mean. But
543
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:36.880
did the dad say what he did? I know, the mom said waitress.
544
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.279
I think they said he had a
blue collar job. He's like construction.
545
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:44.359
They they might have been, okay, because like everyone's idea of rich
546
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.680
in middle class and stuff's all fucked
in the nineties. If you're construction job
547
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:52.480
you're living okay, and now a
good blue collar job now was more than
548
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:54.400
before. Yeah, you're plumbers are
making millions. You're doing fine. Yeah,
549
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.279
oh yeah. If you go to
like that's the funny thing. It's
550
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:00.839
like, man, if you want
like a safe, cush life electrician or
551
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:05.440
plumber, go to a trade school
for two years and they get you a
552
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.719
job. It's gonna be six figures
making six figures, and then you work
553
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:10.880
your way for ten years, get
a reputation, build your own company,
554
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:14.840
your millionaire. Yeah. Yeah,
that's the route for sure. Like that's
555
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.920
the definitely the easier route because no
one's doing it. Yeah, no one
556
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:21.599
wants to do it. All my
guys that are like a bunch of homies
557
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.239
that are Lineman, they're doing electricity
stuff. Yeah, they're doing great.
558
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.760
It's hard. I'm not saying it's
easy. It's a path, but it's
559
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:30.079
a path, and it's it's a
build. It's a guaranteed path. It's
560
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:36.239
a guaranteed path that requires discipline and
and you actually like have to fall through
561
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:39.760
that great crazy hours, hard work. But there's an answer. Yeah,
562
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:43.639
and we're like college, there's no
answer. No, they used to be
563
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:45.960
Yeah, I guess it's kind of
like my pointer, and I think your
564
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:49.440
point too. It's like, yeah, I mean there's a direct line of
565
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.760
like getting out of situations for sure. And you can go to a trade
566
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:54.039
school, and you can get a
loan to go to a trade school,
567
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:58.599
and you'll pay that fucking loan off
pretty fairly quickly year because those aren't that
568
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.480
expensive competibly to like going to some
random college to get some random degree that
569
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:05.159
you're not going to use. And
then it's just like some of them might
570
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.639
not even need it. You might
be able to get a mentor just work
571
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:13.760
for free. Yeah. So currently
he's in a business with his brother called
572
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.920
White Space and they make I don't
know if that's flying, I don't know.
573
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:22.599
I don't know. Uh, they
make snowboards, make guys on brand
574
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:29.079
now, yeah, guys on brand. Uh Bourton. But the crazy thing
575
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:31.119
is that he's had a sponsor since
he was seven. They didn't really say
576
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:36.440
that in that first episode they talk
about it was Burton, Yeah, right
577
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:38.360
for him. Yeah, they said
right as he won his first competition that
578
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:45.239
Burton was open to kids line seven. It's just phenomenal. And I'm sure
579
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:50.079
that all that stuff made a lot
more possible. Yeah, yeah, but
580
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:52.400
I don't know. Again, I
don't know if it's a second episode or
581
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.440
not. But the mom talked about
never spending that money. Yeah, you
582
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:59.679
know really yeah, yeah, there
must be second episode. Yeah, because
583
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:02.280
my mom's about not she she was
always she even admits, and she does
584
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:06.039
it with a giggle. But how
bad she was with money and wouldn't let
585
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.280
him spend its losing it all?
Yeah, both both. I think for
586
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:13.519
her own sake that she was frugal
and his and then and then that's where
587
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:16.199
a split starts to happen in the
family a little bit. In two thousand
588
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:21.960
and nine, for magazine estimated that
he had earned nine million dollars in from
589
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:25.360
his endorsements in two thousand and eight. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't surprise
590
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.360
me. The household name so here
in two thousand and eighty he was what
591
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:34.440
twenty two Yeah, and that's no
yeah, no competition money, only sponsors.
592
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.320
Who knows what he businesses. He
was already investing in her on the
593
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.320
back end. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, twentywo years old. Eight
594
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:45.559
million in the bank in two thousand
that back then, that's like happening like
595
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:52.440
thirty thirty. Now, that's crazy. I'm excited se where this one goes.
596
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:54.719
Yeah, yeah, I might watch
a few. I will. I'll
597
00:36:54.760 --> 00:37:00.280
probably watch the rest of it.
I liked this one considerably better than the
598
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.480
Quarterback one. Oh yeah, all
some more interested in this one. This
599
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:08.440
one feels characters and it feels more
vloggy, yeah, or less produced.
600
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:12.480
It feels like you're getting all this
footage you've never seen before. But the
601
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.559
other one it feels like you're watching
a Sunday special leading to a super Bowl.
602
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:17.320
You know, it's different, different
styles, for sure. It feels
603
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:22.559
like a package, Yeah, like
a role in package of of of you
604
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.840
know, bio on three Quarterbacks,
whereas this one is a summation of a
605
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:31.360
crew and obviously a full lifetime rather
than one season. And they bounce around
606
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:38.760
a lot. I mean it's it's
the first episode has a chronological like backbone,
607
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:43.719
but they jump back and forth in
time to make connections between things that
608
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:47.599
happened when he was he's younger and
when he's can they do the same.
609
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:51.559
I think the general timeline is leading
up to the new Olympics, and then
610
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.280
that you're explaining reasons why things are
going on in certain ways. Yeah,
611
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:57.960
it was done differently yeah, but
in a good way, a little bit
612
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:00.679
lass dancy. Yeah, you guys
feel like kind of started that. And
613
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:04.760
the best part of Last Dance is
that the genius of going back and forth
614
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:08.920
is each episode has a theme.
So the Broadman is the theme Jordan College,
615
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:14.559
but it's still it's chronological that bounces. Yeah, I feel like that
616
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:17.360
may be set a precedent for the
theme of the or the style of this
617
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:22.719
one. Last Dance. Was that
Netflix or was that HBO? Thought it
618
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:28.559
was ESPN, but I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know on Netflix
619
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.000
now, oh it might be a
Netflix original. I forgot No, I
620
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:35.840
think it was ESPN. But ESPN
must have a tie with with them,
621
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:37.360
you know, doing all this sports
shit. I feel like it's probably locked
622
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:42.639
in. Now well, who well, ESPN's own by Disney. Oh,
623
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.599
you're right, yeah, but now
yeah, and it's so weird now,
624
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:51.000
uh what just came out this week? Everything's so weird. So Disney also
625
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:53.840
owns nat g O. Right,
yeah, but you go to HBO,
626
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:58.320
they have Momoa for Shark Week.
You're right, maybe there's more of a
627
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:00.280
tie in with Disney and HBO.
Yeah, there's there's a bunch of weird
628
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.119
end somewhere on the business end,
because yeah, Shark Week launched on both
629
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:09.360
I was so confused. Yeah,
and then what's it called already on Transformers
630
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:12.800
is already on streaming? Yeah,
if you gotta buy, no, I
631
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:17.000
think you can watch it for free
on Paramount maybe punt. I'd like to
632
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:21.000
watch it heard actually, which I
think is I heard in the scheme of
633
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:23.360
things. Wasn't that bad? I
like fucking Transformers, man, So I
634
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:29.840
had no complaints. I wish Megan
Fox was there, but that's also speaking
635
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.360
Megan Fox. I would love to
me and my wife. Me and my
636
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:37.280
wife have been watching our kind of
our junk nighttime show. We've been started
637
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:42.159
over nine Beverly Hills nine o two
and the og one from the early nineties.
638
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.840
Yeah, and like one of the
kids on there, the youngest one
639
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:50.239
that does like the djo Hey,
like, uh, what's it called the
640
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.679
it's Brian Austin Green, Yes,
yeah, yeah, and that's making that's
641
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:58.400
baby Mama. Yeah all their kids
is the good from guy from nine two
642
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:00.239
and over whatever? I didn't know
that for boys for three boys right here
643
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:04.199
all with Brian Austin Green. Yeah, so he was like a smaller character
644
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:07.239
in that show. He wasn't liked. You have a success after I don't
645
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:10.119
think some of that show went off
for like ten or twelve seas. He
646
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:13.880
made a bank for sure, and
then they did that reboot and like early,
647
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.280
like two thousand and eight, still
be going the reboot. I've never
648
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:20.719
seen any of them, but I
remember it. The guy did all the
649
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.880
Sharknado movies. The blonde guy.
Yeah, uh, oh my god,
650
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:30.320
what's his name? It's not pronounced
the way it it looks like it would
651
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:35.280
be. What the fuck is his
name? Ian? Yes, yes,
652
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:38.239
that guy. You what you read
Ian say? I in, Yeah,
653
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:43.360
he's uh does all Yeah, he's
still gone. And then one guy passed
654
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:50.320
away, the Luke Luke. Yeah, one of them have that. One
655
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:52.000
of the girls has cancer. All
like a lot of them got sick,
656
00:40:54.639 --> 00:41:00.480
has is dying of breast cancer.
Yeah, but anyway, get out of
657
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:04.840
that show. Though. Besides the
fact that the Bryan on screen connection,
658
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:10.360
the story, the TV was just
better. I told you I was.
659
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:14.440
I'm watching Home Improvement for my sleepy
time. That's fair. Such a good
660
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:15.800
show. That's fair. Same error
makes me a giggle every single time.
661
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:19.400
It's like, oh man, these
like life lessons in these stories like are
662
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.559
real Like one of like thet I
didn't realize how like serious that show kind
663
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.719
of got then. I know two
and I was like this one girl like
664
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:30.559
was basically like her friend more than
like a mother, and she was like
665
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:34.400
a mom, was like a cokehead
and she was like like sleeping around like
666
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:37.599
it was like it was like but
it was like more like about the girl
667
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.000
and like what that has to Look
what kind of effect that has when the
668
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:45.400
child has to become like the parents, which is situation that's heavy, it's
669
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:52.480
very very The blonde girl Kelly Kelly
her mom, Yeah, yeah, she
670
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:54.599
was like go ahead to go back
to like aa or na like should go
671
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:57.840
back. Like it was like she
like relapsed. It was about like her
672
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.199
relapsing. Yeah, it's like shit
that happened in real life but people wouldn't
673
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.519
talk about so then the show is
going to talk about it. I didn't
674
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:06.400
realize that show's got that deep Like
back then, I mean that's like the
675
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.519
joke, but right now covering like
like yeah, it's like this made up
676
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:14.280
story of this ghetto kid in this
rich family. But then they're they're they're
677
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:16.679
the stories within the weaven, like
you should just talk to Uncle Phil and
678
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:20.039
just tell them, you know,
like there's always some like truthing like yeah
679
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.760
you should just talk to them,
or money stuff or yeah you scratch your
680
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:28.239
dad's car like all real life shit. Yeah, there'sn't really. Four Days
681
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:30.880
aren't just not like that. Now
they're all about vampire kids and about you
682
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.800
know, they're not like realistic,
amore. I don't even know what a
683
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:36.880
real show is. I don't they
existing. Yeah, I guess. I
684
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:38.920
guess they're all just like fantasy.
There's no real shows anymore, No,
685
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.480
that's for sure. Yeah, we
got too bored with reality. I've been
686
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:50.400
watching Cheers. Yeah, yeah,
it's a good before. But they are
687
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:57.079
so well crafted. They're really funny, they're super tight, they're shot well.
688
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:02.719
I mean when something like that happens
now it's prestige TV, everyone shocked.
689
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:06.760
But it used to be the norm. Right Yeah. Yeah, I
690
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:08.760
guess no, that's a whole It's
like, yeah, it's like man,
691
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:13.320
TV was just done. Think about
how much money it costs a shoot an
692
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:17.079
episode of Cheers. Yeah go anywhere? Yeah zero, They seldom go anywhere
693
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:22.199
live audience, yeah, Seinfeld,
Right, there's three locations. Yeah,
694
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.719
whether they're real or a set.
Yeah, a little bit of in in
695
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:30.960
the uh, like around the studio, in his apartment, and then in
696
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.400
the restaurant. Yeah, they did
some exteriors in Boston, but like I've
697
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:38.320
walked past where where it was cheers. Yeah. Yeah, now there's like
698
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:42.360
two fake bars. Yeah. Yeah, we got like the stock images from
699
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:45.599
Seinfeld in New York, Like,
yeah, that restaurant. I've been in
700
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:49.239
that restaurant. Yeah, like but
the act there never wasn't shot inside.
701
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:52.199
It looks nothing like that in there. It's decent. I've had it really.
702
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.320
Yeah. I got a little take
a picture in front of that sign
703
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:59.360
I did. It's lit iconic.
Yeah, I got the little omelets solid.
704
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:02.960
Let you get the big salad.
No, they I think they do
705
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.760
have Seinfeld jokes on the menu,
but I don't know if they go,
706
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:13.039
all right, we should rate this
thing. Rate them on a cork screws
707
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:19.920
or something. What's the triple the
triple corkle cor make twist? The twists
708
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.000
is skateboarding? Yeah, and then
they took it well, I think they
709
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:23.800
used the same games. All right, Yeah, let's go with Mick twists.
710
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:28.679
How many make twists you got?
It sounds like a yeah, it.
711
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:31.480
Does they have those? Do they? Yes? I know Taco Bell
712
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:35.639
has those little like those are hard. Those are still fire because they're warm,
713
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.719
the hard ones. Right. What
is it called sentiment twist? Sentiment
714
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:43.199
twists? Yeah, it's literally just
like a cheat your owne meets fucking truro
715
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:45.519
alright. Talked about it for the
first time in a long time the other
716
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.599
night. It's good fast foods pop
by my house and it's a brand new
717
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.840
Taco Bell So like worth dude,
the final or craving box Dude, what
718
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:55.119
a fucking steal. You get those, you get those twists, you get
719
00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.719
a hard taco five layer burrito and
like a chiloup. Oh that's a man
720
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:06.320
a drink and the thing five dollars
only crap I'm going to talk about Yeah,
721
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:13.400
right after, I'm gonna give this
fuck four solid twists twists. I
722
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.280
love it. I'm gonna do the
same. Maybe I'll give it a three
723
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:19.239
nine. It's just an equal out
with my football guy was like three seven,
724
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.480
three eight, Yeah, three nine. I liked it. I liked
725
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:23.760
it. I think it's still just
like a disconnect for me in single person
726
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:29.559
sports. There's something in my brain
that doesn't and although Sean White's really cool.
727
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:32.840
There's nothing that like screams. I
love Sean White. To me,
728
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.159
I like him. I think he's
cool. I think his his dedication to
729
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:39.760
sports cool. Let's see what Tony
Hawk. You know, there's nothing that
730
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:44.440
like screams like. I love Tony. I relate so much to Tony.
731
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:46.840
Yeah, n, I ain't got
any of that in me, but it
732
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:50.719
it's cool. There's a lot of
behind the scenes footage you've never seen for
733
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.440
sure, which makes the documentary cool. Obviously, if you just see ESPN
734
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:58.320
clips, it's not fun. So
yeah, it's cool. I'm missing for
735
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:01.119
as well. I will say that
it's probably not having seen the whole thing.
736
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:04.880
It's probably too long because all of
these are too long, all of
737
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:10.679
them. Yea, every everything could
be cut down because they I think that
738
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:15.719
they fall in love with their own
you know, it's I got this really
739
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:17.800
cool footage. I want to use
this. It's like, well, it
740
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:22.719
doesn't really work. It looks cool, but don't you know this particular that's
741
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:29.159
not a good example of this particular
show. But make these commitments. They
742
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:31.599
sign contracts to do X number of
episodes, and so they feel like they
743
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:36.639
have to do that many episodes rather
than that I liked it. I liked
744
00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:39.320
it as nearly as much as the
Tony Hawk that we watched. The Tony
745
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:42.599
Hawk was good too, it was, it was really good. I don't
746
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:46.480
know. I think the thing I
feel about individual sports, because like powerless
747
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:51.599
sports goes back to what you were
saying earlier. I always thought I never
748
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:53.079
thought about like winning or whatever.
I just thought about it. But the
749
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:59.000
performance itself, it's like like how
will I do and if and if again
750
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:02.199
if I fuck up? Like how
will I handle it on the platform or
751
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:06.239
whatever. And it's same kind of
thing with like if you're if you're a
752
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:09.280
singer, if you're an actor or
whatever. I mean, you might have
753
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:13.280
a bunch of people around you,
but it really comes down to your own
754
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:15.880
personal performance, how you handle it, how you handle these sports are funny
755
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:21.719
in particular because there they are like
a mix of obviously athleticism, like contorting
756
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:23.880
your body through air, but it's
it's still like figure skating, like it's
757
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:30.039
still art. It's more of a
performance performance than a sport per se.
758
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:34.440
It's like a performance competition. Yeah
yeah, that's the whole rabbit hole.
759
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:37.519
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I've got I've been in this conversation.
760
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:42.239
I've got a fat debate with me. Yeah, we've debated like sport and
761
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:45.599
I went deep with my buddy who's
a professional dancer, and I was just
762
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:49.880
saying, dances in a sport.
I understand how people get mad at that
763
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.760
because they want to be part of
a sport. But to me, being
764
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.920
part of a sport doesn't elevate things. I'm not saying basketball is up here
765
00:47:55.960 --> 00:47:59.199
because it's a sport. I'm just
saying it's more like a sport. We
766
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:02.000
got the scoreboard, the standardization is
way more clear, and to me,
767
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:08.679
I think that's the key. It's
more standardization, standardization and so yeah,
768
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:13.599
like there's clear black and white rules, but is the But there's the problem
769
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.360
the argument Also, it's like,
yeah, there's something that are like here's
770
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.239
the score, that is how you
win, do this, But then you
771
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:22.000
have other involvement like referees for sure, and then you start getting into like,
772
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.280
well that's the same thing as like
a judge close. I don't think
773
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:30.519
it is, because there's yeah,
because the judge, because the ref isn't
774
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.000
making their their judgment calls based on
a black and white rule. Some of
775
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.920
the times the rules are Harry,
Especially football, I don't know if they're
776
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.079
Harry. Football rules are Harry.
I think making the call is Harry.
777
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:44.440
I don't think the rules are Harry. Rules are very black and white and
778
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:49.639
all. But I think the enforcements
subjective. That's why I said the enforcements
779
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.559
Harry, but the rule is not
Harry. Yeah, they're they're written like
780
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:57.599
law. Like I used to literally
study NC TWA basketball rule books because then
781
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.599
I'd be because I was the guy
talking to the ref all day making friends,
782
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:01.840
and so I want to talk his
lingo, and I say, hey,
783
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:04.920
man, that's crazy, but you
know when my feet are planted this
784
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.039
way, and I would always come
at the some of them love me something
785
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:12.719
hey to me. But and I
don't know how judges and snowboarding does.
786
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:17.119
Unless a Mick twist performed perfectly is
always a nine point zero, then the
787
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:22.719
rules are the whole. The rules
are subjective. Bodybuilding rules are subjective as
788
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.360
fuck. It says, have good
vascularity, What does that look like?
789
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:31.159
Right? It doesn't per inch.
Basketball says two feet facing ninety degrees taking
790
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:34.840
a charge. You got to be
there before you know. Some vascularity is
791
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.119
really ugly too. By the way. Yeah, it's the opposite of aesthetic.
792
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:40.159
Yeah, especially in pro body building. But I think my bigger point
793
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:45.599
is that people for some reason want
to be a sport where why why can't
794
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:50.559
it be an athletic competition? It
was like MMA sport. Yeah, I
795
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:54.119
think it's cut even though the judging
you're right, is more also subformance of
796
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:58.159
like your skill. No it is, and I don't really care. Uh
797
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.599
and fighting might even mean its own
thing. And the judges they are a
798
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:02.559
big deal. If you don't knock
out or submit, then the judges are
799
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:08.920
more uh more gray area than snowboarding. I wouldn't see more real scoring,
800
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:13.840
like a jab is worth half a
point. I don't know why they're still
801
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:19.199
using boxing judges. Well, the
whole things look like MMA's. It's bigger
802
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:22.280
than you know, it's not bigger
than boxing, but as big as fuck.
803
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.079
Now I feel like it is bigger
than boxing now. I don't know.
804
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:30.280
The money's still flowing from somewhere Old
Vegas. Yeah, money laundry maybe
805
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:34.840
either way. Yeah, I guess
my biggest organs. I still don't understand
806
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:37.000
why people are insulted by saying athletic
competition, because that's what I call dancing.
807
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:39.320
I said, well, it could
be competition, and it's athletic as
808
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:43.119
fuck. You can argue your more
athletic in Jordan. I don't even that
809
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.440
doesn't hurt my feelings, but to
call it a sport just feels weird to
810
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:52.199
me. Yeah, yeah, it's
exactly, but it's it's a performance poker.
811
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:54.960
Poker. Poker's weird too, right, and yeah, and then the
812
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:58.679
athletics and people will define athletics.
I'm like, well, there is a
813
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:01.000
definition for athletics. You know,
it's typically like run, jump, agility,
814
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:05.360
hand eye coordination, Like, well, where are we in poker?
815
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:08.679
None of that? Right? The
NASCAR one's a big argument. Yeah,
816
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:12.519
I'm not saying it. You can
say it's harder than basketball. I'm not
817
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.400
arguing it's not harder, but like, why are you so tied to be
818
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:17.239
sport. I'm not saying you're not
an athlete. I've never said people aren't
819
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:21.199
athletes either, But people get so
particular about that it's a sport. Line
820
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.079
is the sports a sport? Probably
not. It's an es sport. They
821
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:28.440
made their own category because they know
i'd bash them. They do with their
822
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:30.679
own name. But that's very like
esports is very much like NASCAR, like
823
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:35.039
race sports. Yeah, fighting sports
and fight sports. Yeah, they already
824
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.960
do have their own try Yeah,
they say combat sports. They do say
825
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.559
combats, combat sports. I don't
know about races. I think there is
826
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:43.800
something like I think there's like race
sports that's got it. Twenty twenty three
827
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:45.480
we got we got what's the White
Company? We got the White Company and
828
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:50.400
race spite, white space, white
space, and race sports. I don't
829
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.960
know where's the collab. I don't
know where we are. NASCAR sewn white
830
00:51:54.000 --> 00:52:00.400
collaud called white, white space,
white race, white race sports, Fast,
831
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:05.760
Fast and Furious Race Wars. Yea
from the from episode one of of
832
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:09.360
Fast and Furious Race makes sense.
Yeah, race Wars makes more sense than
833
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:15.360
fucking sport racing. Yeah yeah,
all right people, Yeah, hit them
834
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.639
Dean working find you know at having
a kilos if you you know, down
835
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.519
to pick us some coffee, someb
merge or you know the debt Dean sidors
836
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:30.159
do CUK. The journey to nationals, Master's Nationals, that's not you don't
837
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:31.360
got to throw it in there.
Yeah, I'm a Master's now white Space
838
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:37.400
Nationals. Yeahs, I'm in Uh, I'm embracing my national or my uh,
839
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:42.679
masters, you should get my new
master's Uh what is it thirty five?
840
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:47.199
So yes, power lifting, I
think it's forty, so you can
841
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:51.159
compete at if you're thirty four,
you can compete as a master even though
842
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:52.880
it's until thirty five. If it's
in the year that you turn thirty five,
843
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:57.119
should I do it? Yeah?
The call has got to be not
844
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.440
crazy, right, weightlifting, it's
considerably lower than the regular Yeah, that'd
845
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:04.719
be kind of cool. I'm a
national level weightlifter before I'm a national level
846
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:12.760
powerlifter. Yeah, I think for
class I could qualify like with like seventy
847
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:15.920
kilos less than I qualified for like
senior. That's just what I need.
848
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:19.039
Yeah, senior National. I can
clean a jerk three fifteen. That'll give
849
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.039
me there somehow, right, Yeah, easily, that would be kind of
850
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:24.199
cool. Maybe work weight class would
you be? How much did you weigh?
851
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:30.119
I could get into nineties? There's
an eighty nine, Yeah, one
852
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:32.320
of the light but I could find
my way at eighty nine. That would
853
00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:35.840
be kind of cool. I probably
won't do it, but it would be
854
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:40.840
cool to call for and compete in
powerlifting weightlifting nationals same same year, and
855
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:44.760
it would be both my first Nationals. I've never been in Nationals. That'd
856
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:47.320
be cool. I could do that. I should do it, bitch,
857
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:51.800
now, bro the calls are way
high and then be clicking on that button
858
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:55.000
like they're Jordan. Once you can't
get in, you can't get in,
859
00:53:55.079 --> 00:54:00.039
so like the sign ups. Yeah, man, So we're gonna keep using
860
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:07.519
the term masters because apparently we don't
have master bedrooms anymore, because I think
861
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:12.639
it's a different master background. I
don't know, well that here's the origin
862
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:19.039
of the phrase, Matt master bedroom
didn't appear until nineteen twenty five, way
863
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:30.920
past when slavery was abolished. There's
no connection at all any uh House show
864
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:36.440
on Netflix or any selling sunset.
It's all very deliberately no more using that
865
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:38.519
phrase. That's what we're talking about
the last podcast. So that's primary.
866
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:42.000
I don't understand primary. Yeah,
I don't. So I didn't know that
867
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:45.239
about the nineteen twenty five things.
I just assumed that, and I'm Wilson
868
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:49.239
was like, okay that it made
sense to me. But also now it
869
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:52.679
doesn't. Again, it doesn't.
I don't have to eliminate that word everywhere
870
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:59.320
or nowhere. Let's be on that. I could care less. Yeah,
871
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:00.880
it's Also, it doesn't hurt me
to say primary, but the problem it
872
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:05.440
doesn't. But it's also just like
where does that end? That's my point.
873
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:08.760
No, I think there's way worse
than this. That's probably true,
874
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:12.519
but I think that's I think I'm
not a slippery slope guy either. I
875
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:15.679
just think it's dumb. I think
it's worse to say, oh, can
876
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:19.000
you grab my wife beater shirt?
No, wife feater is bad. I
877
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.840
saw people on a TikTok calling it
a wife lover shirt. Yeah, I
878
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:25.480
heard another one. Swear to god, I heard that. I heard another
879
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:30.519
one. You got I'm gonna it
was like someone that does outfits, like,
880
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:34.159
oh, I'm gonna pair him this
loose fit, uh wife lover shirt
881
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:37.199
with a wife lover and I'm like, okay, that's so, that's happening
882
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:42.079
now. Yeah, I don't know
a shirt, a tank how about a
883
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:45.360
tank top? Tank works? What
do they call him in Australia Jersey's jersey?
884
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:47.840
Yeah, jerseys get sick. I
think I think with the thin strap
885
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:51.360
should be a jersey. No,
that's all me and you and everybody in
886
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:52.760
this room. That's all we called
Jersey. We're gonna stark on the jersey
887
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:55.880
anywhere. If he's the fuck out
everybody, then what's a real jersey,
888
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:59.960
like a soccer jersey? Now it's
called a UNI. Oh, that is
889
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:02.239
called the Uni. Yep, man, I got my Uni. And then
890
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:06.719
I think, I think if you're
wearing a like the suit style to Catholic
891
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:12.199
school, real Uni, Yeah,
we're gonna have some gray areas. Yeah.
892
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:15.840
I guess maybe they call it something
else, nont know, Ladies,
893
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:17.760
gentlemen, New episode Wednesday Friday.
Check out our Apparlod Company of Pearl three
894
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:22.679
s B dot c oh and I'm
Seld Mike Quem find me. I'll catch
895
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:25.239
the next one. A Matt the
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896
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:30.880
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897
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