Should social media following be a factor in getting hired? | Topic Thunder

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Company. Welcome to this episode of
Topic Thunder. I just let them let

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it was a little longer, drew
holding that down. That's pretty good.

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I don't know that's good. I
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flood in the basement. Anyway,
My question is this. It is not

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a this is not necessarily a fitness
specific question, but it does bleed over.

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So and here's the thing. I
read a post from Reddit which I

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can't find at the moment, so
I can't read it verbatim to you about

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by a chef who is looking for
jobs here in Sacramento. And it's very

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common in that world for you to
be asked to come in and do what

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they call a stage where you go
in and you cook along with their crew.

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Uh, and they you see just
how you get along with people,

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and what your what your skills are
like and whatever whatever. Yeah, And

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this person said that more than once
lately while they've been trying to find a

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job. They've gone in and had
to do a stage and it goes really

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well, and they're talking to them
after talking to the hiring people afterwards,

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and they come up with this question, can you tell us what your social

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media following is like, because we're
trying to get the word out about our

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restaurant and we need people who have
a social media presence already to do it.

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Is this a good thing? Is
this a right thing for that industry

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because we can talk about our own
industry and that's that's a that's the thing

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as well. Yeah, I think
I think it's a good thing for all

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industries. If I'm hiring and I
have two candidates and they're within the same

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boundary of skill and resume and all
things being semi equal, I'm clearly gonna

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hire the one with the following.
Really, Yeah, for sure, I'm

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gonna hire the one I get along
with the best. That's why I said.

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If they're in the same boundary,
they have a similar they have a

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similar everything. Yeah, right,
we get along similarly within a boundary,

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they have a similar resume within the
boundary, qualifications being within the boundary,

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Yeah, why wouldn't you so for
the purposes of promoting your business or for

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the purposes of evaluating them as someone
who can with the world share their life

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in a way that is interesting and
engaging. Now for the business, of

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course, Yeah, for the business, because if they do the job,

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the same, they work with the
crew about the same. They're gonna bring

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more eyes into my business than the
other person would and marketing costs. That's

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why for social media as popular as
it is, right is it's like free

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marketing. So why wouldn't you take
like the bonus? But you I,

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I don't know. I'm really tossed
up on it because I think that there's

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some value in just hiring somebody to
set up your Instagram or whatever and run

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it, you know, your own
business, because if you lose that person,

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you're also losing their You're losing the
attention that they bring to you.

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Yeah. Yeah, well why wouldn't
you, Yeah, you'd be doing both.

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Yeah, just because I'm hiring someone
with the social media following doesn't mean

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I'm not doing my own marketing.
Yeah, And I think that I think

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you could do collab posts. They're
already aware out to make content. If

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they're just as good as a chef
or just as good as a personal trainer,

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then yeah, why wouldn't if they
understand the marketing side of things too,

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Like, and if you're running a
small business with most restaurants are right,

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even franchised ones, like, it
makes sense to have people on your

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team that have multiple weapons. Okay, right, Yeah, so if they

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know like somewhat of marketing, which
means they know how to create content for

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themselves, that's an asset to the
team beyond just making fucking steak. And

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even if their content is not like
food based. Yeah, yeah, it

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just wouldn't hurt any exposures exposures,
Yeah, it just wouldn't hurt Again,

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all things being equal, ish if
they're clearly a worst chef and they're a

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piece of shit and they have a
million followers, like, no, of

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course I'm not going to hire them
over a chef who's dope gets along with

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everybody and everyone loves their food.
Yeahah, yeah, I'm gonna take another

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context here. You know, the
Giants manager from the last few years was

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fired right before the end of the
season and maybe last week week before.

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Somebody came out on one of the
sports talk shows, like guest hosting or

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whatever, bitching about the fact that
he has a pretty big Instagram following and

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he's had a like a like a
website blog thing for a long time,

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and then he was doing cameo videos
for like two hundred bucks. They didn't

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like that. Yeah, this person
was saying, I can always how can

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he do all this stuff and concentrate
on work, But like nobody ever hit

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the guy on work ethic. Well, no one's talking about Travis Kelce winning

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fucking Super Bowl with the full podcast, one of the biggest podcasts in the

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world, right, exactly right,
because when it's going well, you're not

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gonna complain because he's just selling more
Chiefs tickets exactly exactly, same thing with

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him disappearing like on their off week
to go to Argentina with Taylor Swift,

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right where Dennis Rodman disappears for a
week, And obviously it's different. He

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skipped the game. But hypothetically he's
the bad guy. But if you're winning

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super Bowls, you're the good guy, right, Yeah. I don't think

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it would have come up at all
had they had a winning season, right

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They've gone to the even of the
one round of the playoffs or whatever.

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And if you're on the outside,
you just can't tell. So if the

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players are coming out and say,
man, coaches late for meetings, coaches

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and putting in the time in the
videos, Coach, hasn't you know,

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looked at my stats with me like
he used to? We used to have

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one on one meetings every Monday,
and now he's not. All right,

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yeah, you should probably investigate how
many fucking cameos this guy's filming a day?

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Two hundred bucks apiece, you know
what I mean. But like,

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if he's not, then if his
work ethic within the organization hasn't changed,

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yeah, ship, he's pretty masterful
with his stuff too, Like ladies love

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his content. Let's just say,
yeah, single, single man, good

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shape, a lot of tattoos,
tree in the bio, Yeah, yeah,

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a lot of food posts, A
cameo slippery slope. They say it's

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a gateway drug to of if it
isn't just straight up of, I don't

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know. Do they monitor that condent? I don't know. Yeah, I

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don't know. I don't know if
you're allowed to get naked on a cameo.

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Okay, so all right, now
let's take it at one step further.

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If you know that the chef that
you're about to hire has an OnlyFans,

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do you hire them or no?
Yeah? Same thing. So if

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their skills are within the bounds,
and then it depends on the type of

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restaurant I'm running, but I'm probably
hiring them os So interesting to me,

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because the variance within content is insane, Like you're seeing fucking Bang Bros.

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Type shit where you know there's eighty
guys fucking eighty guys, and then and

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then there's simply just like yo,
I've never I've never got on all the

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fans. I just know that content
that's on there, and then somebody turning

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on the AC and then there's just
like bikini pictures like modeling. Yeah,

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yeah, you know some of it's
very tame. No, yeah, there's

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straight like hardcore porn, and then
there's literally just like fashion picks in a

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way, like beautiful women. I
was thinking about this the other day.

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This might be controversial. I don't
think it is. So like in the

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nineties. Say it's nineteenth take us
back the nineteen ninety two, and we're

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all the same age as we are
right now, right and I'm dating a

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sports illustrated You guys might not understand
as much because the culture is different.

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But I'm dating a sports illustrated model. Okay, all the boys, the

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culture, everyone's high five in you, Like, damn you grab the bikini

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model like you're dating one of the
most beautiful women on the planet. Yeah,

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how you pull that yeah, yeah, or just like a grab whatever,

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right, it's a good thing.
Crazy it's turned up like you're grabbing

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or even a Victoria's Secret model,
right even now you have a Victoria's Secret

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Model. That's what all these top
soccer players in the world, top football

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player, right, they always end
up or a singer or some shit's ended

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up with the Victoria's Secret Model of
the year. Like damn, dating the

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most beautiful woman on the planet.
Again, only fans has a variety of

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fucking content. You date a top
level OnlyFans performer who maybe isn't doing adult

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content. They could be doing bikinis, they could be doing cosplay, they

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could be doing whatever cameo style content, and you're dating her and it's highly

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highly frowned upon. Really yeah for
sure, right, no, that's for

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sure. Yeah. I think it's
just because the stigma that only fans is

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always plorn and it's like, oh, but same with the other stuff too,

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Like you know, the sports illustrated
girls are probably you know, that's

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a slippery slope to the Kim Kardashian
Paris Hilton sex tapes and stuff like,

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it wasn't that different of a culture
besides the but I think Sports Illustrated was

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always held at like such a high
standard. OnlyFans didn't have that. Yeah.

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I don't know why though, because
the top OnlyFans performers. Whoever,

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that is probably beautiful and it probably
is our generation's version of that. Or

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Playboy, Yeah playboys maybe all right, they will go Playboys. So Playboy's

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always been known as an adult magazine. Right, but if you're dating a

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playmate in the nineties, you're the
fucking guy. Yeah, it's not really

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frowned upon. Yeah, that's for
sure. And you would argue, uh,

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like morals or view were more traditional
conservative in the nineties, regardless of

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political views, right, Like it
was more of a traditional family core stuff

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all was more popular in the nineties, So dating an adult star would be

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weirder, you would think, But
it's not. It's flip where things now

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are. Maybe it'scause there's more saturation
that they're like, oh, it's so

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easily accessible. Maybe that it's easier. Yeah, like dating a stripper,

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right, that is, dating a
stripper is kind of frout upon. Maybe

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when your early twenties or high five
in the bros if you're their late twenties,

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if you're your late twenties. It's
kind of like, bro, what

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are you doing? You know,
like, yeah, probably not a great

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move. What depends on strip club? Is the airport one or is it

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airport one? There's always a strip
club. I've never been a strip club

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in my life. Well, there's
always strip closed by the airp oh bye.

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Maybe not in the airport, but
by the effort. Yeah, Terminal

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fifty one. That's not the worst. It's not the worst business model.

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You do like a secret door one
in an airport. You gotta split your

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from your got the airport right now? Yeah, stripper, easy stripper.

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It'd be good the champagne room so
you don't miss your flight. I think

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I was at dinner with my boys
and I was talking about like Carmen Electra

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and we were like making jokes about
the nineties like beauty standards and ship and

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then that popped in my head about
the sports illustrated only fans versus stripper versus

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a It's just weird. It's literally
just all randomized, didn't she judgment Dennis

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Rodman? Yeah, I think they
got married a boy. He's that's the

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Cormon election. That's when he missed
two days and Jordan, Yeah, Vegas,

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Carmon Electras bang yeah, in saying
but she dated Oh no, that's

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Pamela because there had similar paths.
Pamela Anderson my daughter in I went to

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school, the Rodman's daughter yeah too, yeah, like step daughter because he

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married a woman from Sack. Yeah. Yeah. And I didn't believe her

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because, like, I'm a little
school even though we had like Bill car

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Wright's kids went to. My school
was the center for Michael Jordan forever,

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like I met Bill Carr Wright and
so it's not unlikely that, yeah,

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Jennifer Anderson's kids, George Clooney's kids, everyone goes to Waldorf not mine,

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but Waldorfs in general, so it's
not that weird. But she was in

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my class and she's Latin, and
she's like, yeah, like Denis Roden

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is my own course something like yeah, fucking right, you know. And

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she shows me a picture Christmas with
Dennis Trodman. Also what the fuck it

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was like her aunt married him.
Yeah, and then in the Dennis Roden

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at thirty for thirty, I don't
think we covered it. We should.

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It's really good. Yeah, you
met her, and they say it,

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I think they say, like met
her at Park Ultra Lounge and Sacramento after

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a Kings came. Yeah married whatever. I don't want to. I guess

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I could lead the name because it's
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