Nov. 29, 2023

Should we use the word “powerbuilding?” | Topic Thunder

Should we use the word “powerbuilding?” | Topic Thunder

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We’re in Topic Thunder mode again today due to holiday travel and holiday illness. Topic Thunder is our rapid-fire panel discussion show.

Today’s question was inspired by an Instagram post from our friend, Joe Sullivan: Should everyone stop using the term “powerbuilding?” Is there a better way to describe strength training with an aesthetic focus?

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here it is our Topic Thunder episode
about whether people should actually be saying the

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word power building. All right,
we got we got, we got Matt

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ogie with us again. Uh,
Matt, I'm assuming that people have actually

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like seen your work out there in
the real world. I know, yeah,

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that you've done some stuff that's kind
of on the impressive to me side.

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It's out there. Yeah, there's
some stuff out there. Yeah.

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Yeah, So like, what have
you done? Real quick? Here?

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Who are you? Who are am
I bring that Mike a lil closer to

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your mouth. It's yeah, I
am just a twenty four year old kid

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that has worked on cars from seventeen
till now. Yeah, and now I'm

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here. And sometimes they sometimes they've
been in movies. Sometimes yes, I

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heard your best friends with Heath Ledger. Oh he's dead. By the time

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that time movie came out, I
was like, twelve, What did I

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do in that movie? I don't
know, Maybe you should have. I

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was just like, I'm connecting large, huge dots. No, no,

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no underage stuff here. And you
can be best friends with someone who passed

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by the way. Yeah, that's
true. But if we were talking about

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work, like I had no work
at twelve years old, okay, but

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five years later sounds like you're a
lazy kid. Five years later, it

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was like, yeah, ten,
there were some cars that I've seen,

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some movie scenes and stuff like that
that we've done work on what probably not.

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You don't have to say the movie, yeah, but you've seen him

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on screens supercars, that's all you
have to say. That's all you say,

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Well, welcome to this episode of
Topic Thunder. So my question right

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now comes from the instagram of our
friend Joe Sullivan, who says that we

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should stop using the word power building. Oh yeah, I just saw Omar

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did a video on it too.
I didn't watch it. Yeah, I

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don't know. I would just saw
Joe a week ago or two weeks ago

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and Brandy did he give an ext
nation? Well, he hates it,

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mostly just hates it. That's fair. I used to talk shit on it.

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Kind of it's kind of not descriptive. I guess of what I mean.

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I can bring up what he actually
said, but I'm just like,

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yeah, I think I don't know. I I think maybe I've just been

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in too long. So long,
I just don't give a fuck, Like

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you could call it ballet and be
deadlifting, Like I really don't care,

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Like none of it really affects me
that much. But I do understand the

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view of it because I think I
used to kind of, you know,

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throw a little semi jokes at it
too, because it is like, well,

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it's just not that creative of a
term, right, Like you're literally

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just throwing two words together, and
then like, what are the change,

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like how many people do you know? And like powerlifting in general should be

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power building. Maybe that's like his
argument, right, because like you have

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to like squat, then you should
probably go do some kind of leg extension,

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leg press like belt squat type deal. Like so okay, you handle

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the bar bell and then you handle
the hypertrophy move, so you're like automatically

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a power builder. Yeah, assist
this moves are almost always muscle building in

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some way. Yeah, and even
the main movement, like you're gonna do

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sets of five and ten closest to
failure to build muscle in that movement with

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particular muscles that assist that do their
jobs like the main movers and a bench

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are built by doing a bench.
Yeah, for sure. His actual posts

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said power building is a stupid word
and we should stop all stop using it,

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basically saying that it's semantics. Yeah
that's yeah, I mean I agree,

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I agree, And then I mean
the opposite could be true too.

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But because like bodybuilding, training isn't
bodybuilding, no, right, Like bodybuilding

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is like being naked on a stage
posing, Right, that's the sport of

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bodybuilding. And we've talked about that
a lot in the past. Two've gotten

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in not debates between you and I, but just the world are people where

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if you want to call like bodybuilding
a sport, I would say no,

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and I would say bodybuilding training is
more athletic. And we used to go

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into at some point we'd looked up
the definition of sport and whatever, like

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posing on a stage with some like
pretty subjective judging isn't a sport to me.

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I think it's a way to describe
athletically focused strength training that isn't competitive

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power building, yeah, yeah,
yeah, but then yeah, and then

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like you ask probably you as one
hundred people on fucking Instagram what they do,

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ninety percent are going to describe something
like power building. And I mean,

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in reality, a lot of people
are gonna say if you ask them

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what they wanted to look like,
they essentially want to look like a bodybuilder,

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not a big bodybuilder necessarily, but
like yeah, Sea bomber, yeah,

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notice likely noticeably muscular, yeah,
or jacked NFL players Yeah, And

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the whole the whole thing's weird then
too, because then you get like the

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strict strength and conditioning guys, and
they're arguing, like training like an athlete,

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look like an athlete, I'm like, we just don't really have the

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same genetic Like I could do whatever
the fuck Lebron's doing, and we ain't

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gonna look the same. You're not
gonna be taller, Yeah, our Miles

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Garrett, Like those guys are built
like crazy athletic bodybuilders, and sure they're

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probably doing like hand cleans and some
more athletic style movements, but like me

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doing that, I'm not going to
look like that. Certain people on your

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genetic spectrum will have to train very
more strict bodybuilding bodybuilding diet to even semi

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look like a bodybuilder. Yeah.
Like, and then we all have friends

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and people we know that barely work
out and look fucking insane, which I

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hate those people. Are you doing
anything? Yeah? Some people like just

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sprint or like there's runners, you
know, like and you're like, damn,

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that dude's like jacked, Like what
the fuck is he doing? So

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I don't know where I was going
with that, but yeah, I think

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it's it is like an amateur random
Jim bro is all. They're all power

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builders. I think it's just working
out. Yeah, it is. That's

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another thing too. People still get
mad about no wonder maybe do you like

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a poll? Somewhere. But like
the training versus workout, that was like

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a huge thing for a long time. People get all mad and like,

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oh, we don't work out.
We trained and trainings for a goal.

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I say the word training, but
that's just because like that's it's just like

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never stopped. Like I trained for
basketball, and then I trained in basketball,

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and then now he trained, and
that's gotten more popular. I was

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listening to The Rock and Joe Rogan
talked the other day, and they're talking

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about training. They don't say like, oh, we work out. They're

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like, oh, we trained in
the gym, and it's true, you

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know, like but their experience is
the same. The Rock was a fucking

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d one football player, a little
bit of like pro am Cype football,

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and then he trained to be a
WW guy and now he trains for his

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physique for movies. Yeah, and
same with the Rogan. You know,

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he's competitive m M A and blah
blah blah blah or kickboxing and then he

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trained and then now we trained.
So yeah, none of it really like

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piston did you say, Riley Reid
because you said training, Yeah, Riley

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Reid, are you talking about sexual
trains? It was just a yeah,

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it was the input, like train, that's disgusting, that's absolutely disgusting.

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How did we get here? How
did we get here? Just like ten

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in the morning, you're thinking about
pornography. Keep running, just keep running

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that way, You're like, yeah, actually I worked on that bang bus

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that they filmed. That's my greatest
That's the thing. You can't talk about,

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whether bang bus or fucking both.
Answer b What if your career was

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secretly all your NDAs is that you
build bang busses and fucking casting coscies.

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You're for sure probably hide that too. So that's the truth. Un Riley

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retrains the rock trains power building probably
is over used in a weird term.

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But it doesn't personally bug me.
It doesn't bug me either, But it

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used to the fuckers bug me.
I'm like you, I used to bother

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me a little bit too, But
you know, in the end, it

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doesn't really matter people. If people
go work, I don't care what the

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fuck they call it. They can
call it, you know, yeah,

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they can call it cheesemaking for all
I care. Yeah, same and yeah,

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same thing. I used to be
like, and I'm won a many

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It ran about like functional fitness,
and it does it is stupid. It's

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a really stupid term. But like
again, if you're like, if I

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meet someone and they're like, yeah, you know an expert functional fitness,

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right compete in functional fitness, Like, I don't really care. I just

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don't care enough anymore. I am
at the grumpy old man stage. I

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would agree with me too. That's
what happens when you can care, you

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can care. I don't care.
I just think that nowadays, in my

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generation, they just want a term
for every single thing we do. Yeah,

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it's it's it's it's how they find
identity. And I get it.

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I actually thought that this is a
term that would have been dead a long

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time ago. I think Mike O'Hearn
I don't want to say invented it,

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although I think he claims that he
definitely made it popular. And he is

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like a good definition of it because
he is fucking strong and he looks like

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their bodybuilder. He looks like a
Greek fucking god. And yeah, of

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course everyone wants to deadlift seven hundred
and look like a Greek god. But

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we're just not all going to be
there despite of how you train. All

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right, plug it ogie, where
can they find you at? Mike underscore.

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Oh her, I don't know no, and that's the Natty King though,

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that is. But Matt Underscore.
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