Stompin’ at the NBA playoffs
Reunited for a brand-new episode after a month of travel, we got to be in the house for Kings/Warriors Game 2 and see Draymond Green stomp on the chest of the King’s Domantas Sabonis. We talk about how sports can build community, and how what you wear...
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0:08 Welcome back to a live recorded show as opposed to the past future. The past couple of weeks, we've been revisiting older episodes because I was in Europe for a month. You were there during Sheffield. I was there during Sheffield, and I obviously didn't. I'm not going to drag my wife to Sheffield, sheffields of City. Yeah. I saw that Omar was there and yeah, him and Eric Helms went out. I think for a little content and project. We watched it here a little bit. We had it on in the gym. Powerlifting is a interesting thing because they like hype that up like crazy, and it was cool. Yeah, but like still I think it was like, you know, and this is the same conversation we've had with many guests on here, Garrett and others when we're talking about Girl in the Sport had like eight thousand views maybe on You Too Live and you're like, oh, I'm not supposed to be like a super Bowl. Yeah, and we and how much money did they spend on that? Yeah? Right, if they spent whatever the prize money was one hundred fifty k or something, that's not a good return when you imagine probably double that for the venue.
1:18 And the flying people in right, you would you hope they would at least fly those kids in the athletes and give them a hotel or give them a something, a stipend to travel. Yeah, it's just like, man, we're so we're still so far off. It's just not fun to watch. And I'll argue that to the day I die, Like, I want to watch it, but I know the people, I know the people competing, I know the ins and outs. I don't know, I'm not I'm not gonna watch it if I don't know the people people competing, or if there isn't a record up. Yeah, honestly, like, and it's just not that exciting. I say that as someone who because the baseball season started while I was in Europe and so the timing was off. I mean I could have I could have watched like the MLB package, I could, I could have watched it, but like, I'm just gonna stay up all night to watch game. Even that we talked about it too. The NBA and the MLB seasons are just so long. So I love basketball, but I'm I'm not going to really watch. Yeah, major League Baseball games are about a half hour shorter this year. Because of the rule changes. Yeah, but even then, what there's fucking one hundred and eighty per team or some crazy shit, yeah, one hundred and sixty two. Yeah, there's so many games, like I'll follow even this NBA season. I followed the Kings obviously because it's a first good season a long time. Jim and I just went to the playoff game last night, but like, yeah, I'm watching like the box score, I'm not gonna you can't watch every game, and then even if you do want to watch every game, Baseball might be different in this regard, but like, guys aren't just going they're just not going that hard in basketball because they can't. They can't, like you can't and survive the season. Yeah, and you can't like give that much, like meaning
2:52 teach game, like you can't play your hard out like yeah, injuries, but then let alone just like because yeah, every game matters, but some you know, you're you're somewhere in between a coast and hitting the gas, like you're not peddled to the medal. But that's what makes playoffs so fun, right, Yeah, it's all crazy. Yeah, because last night it was like there was no it was relentless. Yeah, especially the Kings. I mean they're they're playing like their entire life depends on him. Then it does in some sense. Right, they win, they probably get they get money bonuses, They're more likely to get signed to our team or whatever team wants them next, like your career is on the line. Plus Mike Brown, the coach Coach of the Year, which is amazing, has done such a good job of like tying them all together and wanting to win, being a part of something bigger than themselves, like Mike Brown. Mike Brown, for those that don't know, was the main coach a coach Lebron too a bunch of titles in Cleveland. He actually backed up Kerr. I forgot.
3:38 I think there was controversy. I think maybe when Lebron left he had a little bit of like, um bad look on his name. I think it was just because Lebron left, and then the Calves sucked and he coached them for like a year, you know, so he went back to an assistant role with Steve Kerr. I think he won a championship with them, and then I think this is his first lead role since then. And obviously, yeah, Coach of the Year brought a tenth seed team to the third third seed already went in a playoff series potentially, but like, yeah, there's just like so much more meaning in what's going on and for the city. But his praise of the city's really cool. That's something that kind of gets me fired up, because like Cleveland's a big sportstown, yeah, you know, and like Sacramento is not really a sports town. It is a basketball town, but it's not really a sportstown. No one ever thinks about it, and we've been here and we don't even think. That's not the first thing that pops in our head, although the Kings fans are crazy, but it's cool to see the city come alive. And it's obviously the first playoffs just NBA history for all the Kings were going to move or be sold what I guess seven years and year ago, really goddamn. Yeah, it's been a ten years ago ish and there old arena was cool, but it was really old. It's from the eighties when they moved here from Kansas City, and it was out by our airport, which isn't far from Third Street, but it's ten minutes. It's kind of in the middle of nowhere. It's a bunch of McDonald's and random shoot out there a regular suburb. Six years ago, seven years ago. Then we built an arena downtown, or at least opened after saving the team and keeping them here. And obviously we had
5:09 the biggest rout in all sports playoffs. But just to remind you Warriors fans, you've also had that same drought, all you shit talkers, you were also seventeen years not in the playoffs. But beside the point, and then I love stats. You know, people just come with all these arguments. Yeah, who's the little political fucker facts over feelings. I don't like that guy, But that statement is great, right because everyone's always spitting all this bullshit. But then Warriors fans don't know what's going on. Shapiro, it's Shapiro, but whatever. Yeah, but it is true. And so beside the point, Um, yeah, we had a long drought. And so to see the arena, which is dead middle of the city, right by Third Street, less than a mile maybe a mile, um, like, just have so much life about it. It's really fun to see. So we went to the game Saturday. I think you were either flying or on your way back. I know I was home on TV. Yeah, we we went to because there's a viewing party outside. I see everybody in a good mood in this city alive. And then and then going to the game last night, it was it was cool because I can't quite remember, but I'm pretty sure I probably went to a playoff game and the two's the oh Ones at some point. I've only been of the three major sports in America.
6:17 The only playoff game that I that I've been to was a Niner game. Oh really yeah, yeah, Niners Vikings years ago. I don't think I've been to probably only basketball. I went to a calvs. Raptors game when I was visiting our omar and they just happened to be in town. I bought a ticket, but the hype even then wasn't the same. You know, Toronto was in a sports town to say, particularly sports zone. But the seconds are crazy. And going back to Mike Brown, who coached Lebron Freaking James, you know, he's talking about how crazy our fans in it are and how loud our stadium is compared everywhere else. I literally did a laid we dipped quick after the game. Game ended at what maybe nine forty five or something. Yeah, we were at our bikes because I live closish um hauled as home literally went to bed, uh, because I'm normally about at eight and it's already ten and my ears are ringing like I went to a rock concert an experience at all, and I you know, I've talked about the fact that I have a hearing loss, speaking of which and I wear hearing its okay, everybody should know that. Um. And it's really sort of the upper range that I'm that I'm missing now. Yeah, and uh, I had to go in yesterday because like while I was gone, one of my hearing has decided to just not work correctly. And then I got home and it healed itself, but I'd already made disappointment, so I went in to deal with whatever and the euro air. Yeah, and I don't know what it was, honestly, I don't know if it was that it was the difference in in you know, it's like the power conversion
7:49 or it's possibly but I don't think so. Um. But there's a little like plastic dome thing that sits on the or silicone dome thing that's lent top of it keeps stuff from getting into the hearing. It just guts whatever and um, so the tech is looking at at you know, not the one that was that I was having trouble with it. The other one. She's like, where's the dome on that? And I said, I don't know. I had trouble putting on the last one. I have no idea where it is, just like maybe it's in your ear, and she looks in my hair and there it is and it's gotten stuffed way back in there. So it's like next to my um takes my ear drums to take me downstairs to a to a E and d who a doctor you know who showed me the inside of my ear, which was really interesting and he pulled it out.
8:41 It was Yeah, it was a whole effect procedure. Yeah, it was a whole experience yesterday. Yeah. That's like kids. Why kids always like kids and dogs? I don't know why, but it's something I've never experienced where they just shove things in holes. Yeah, I don't know why kids do that, but I know my um, like I think my cousin had a quarter, not a quarter with like a penny or nickel, like so far up as schnas and he's like three you know this is years ago, but they had to go get surgery and ship or dogs always hear about dogs doing that stuff. I'm like, she just watched her dog, Like I just watched my dog. Right, I'm gonna make sure he doesn't doesn't make sure that there's not stuff out that they Yeah, yeah, obviously I don't have perfect dogs. They're they're eating their toy and then I see that and I take it away from him. Yeah, Like, how's your dog always got how do they have like a hot wheels in its stomach? Yeah, that's a really good question. My um my younger grandson. I think maybe it was an eminem or a jelly bean or something like that put it up his nose, had to go to the doctor to get it out.
9:39 That's just so weird. I picked my nose as a kid, but like and as an adult, like, you got a boogie, you get it out. But I've never shoved anything up there. Yeah, it doesn't feel natural. You picked, You picked your nose and you got that one. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't choose. Uh, we should talk about the fact that you should fill me in Like we're doing a dog adoption of it right here. Yeah, we're doing to try to do a bunch of cool ship. So a member of our shout out to Kaylin in Avey's class. I don't know why, Dan too, Dan, obviously Kalin probably even you over me and my network in Zack. I know like people, but I don't know people, and so like Kaylin's another one like Dan who just knows everybody. Yeah, and so I don't know if I brought up the idea to her or she brought because I had the I probably brought up the idea to you a long time ago, but I had in my head. She's like, oh, I think I know someone on the board of our local animal shelter as I did. Let's rock. And then she didn't even let me help. She like handled it all. And so it's not set in stone. We have a meeting Thursday, but we have second Saturday here.
10:41 So every second Saturday the month third Street, we try to open our doors to the community and have a free training day from eight eight am to noon, just allow people that either want to visit don't live close. I've never experienced a gym like this, maybe can't afford it, whatever it might be, come experienced the community and so it's been going great. It's been growing with the help of Team ABC, Bass, etc. Started at you know, maybe we had ten people show up kind of for a day pass and the energy is good now. I think I counted the other day, we were like forty people in here at one second. So then I was always thought and Second Saturday in Sacramento pre COVID was probably over a decade ago, started as an art show and local businesses would allow artists and different companies to do pop ups within their stores, and people would just kind of store hoop and look at these exhibits, and that was called Second Saturday. It was mostly art driven. I don't correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's a thing anymore since the pandemic. It's actually string. Yeah.
11:39 And then it transformed. It's less artcy and now it's more just township, community ship. Yeah, there's yeah, the galleries have openings, but that's yeah, there's all sorts of other stuff. Yeah. And then there was our Street, which is like our historic street is one of our kind of bar areas, restaurant entertainment. They got a small concert hall. They started to shut off the street and do a huge fare over the summers and I think that's on a second Saturday. Anyways, I thought that would be cool, and how do we build that into our community, give back a little bit, help, a little bit whatever. So we're gonna have one of our animal shelters bring out some dog goes. They're gonna set up just you know, I don't know, a playpen or whatever the heck they do. I don't know, on leashes on a tent, I don't know, but just a way to promote the local dogs. We're having, you know, hundreds of people come in on a Saturday. The animal shelter can promote it.
12:28 And it's right down the street, which makes sense. They even said that they're like, oh, if one of the dogs gets adopted, you guys are so close, we just go grab another dog to get adopted, and so that should be May tenth. Yeah. Yeah, they're literally on the other side of the freeway. Yeah. Yeah, it's a little hard to get to, but just because the director out, but they're a rocks throw from us, so we're gonna do that. Then we're trying to just set up a little bit more vendory fun stuff with some vintage boys in June obviously good company and a lot that I do, and everything has to do with um kind of calm ends, building your clothing, feeling good about your clothes. And I've worn vintage clothes for a very long time. And there's a huge vintage community everywhere now it's popping off, but in Sacramento. So I had some of those boys, some local kids, and trying to see if they want to do some pop up to continue to hopefully help their business in some ways and to spread good cheer and good vibes. So yeah, we'll see, we'll see where the summer takes. It's now that the weather's nice. That was kind of what I was waiting on before I try to implement some of this fun stuff. Is that it's just been cold. Yeah yeah, And so like, who wants to stand out there all morning when it's cold. Nobody? Yeah, absolutely, nobody. Winding it back just a little bit, there was an article in Today's Washington Post. The headline is Sacramento King's spark hope for cities post COVID revival. I agree. I mean we've seen it obviously firsthand from ourselves, you know, opening the gym and how difficult that's been. And I don't think it was difficult. I
13:58 think it's more difficult one than I thought, and then two, it's more difficult even in hindsight. We're often things seem better in hindsight. Yeah, it's almost worse than hindsight when I start to look back and how stupid it was. But even seeing the gym become alive, we have a lot more college students, we have a lot more gen pop. We have just a lot more members, and the vibes are really high. And then driving around the city, you know, Jim and I both live in the area, the amount of apartments that are going up, businesses that are trying to going up, there's plans for new restaurants, there's plans for new grocery stores. Which was the pace we were at in twenty eight twenty nineteen. The city was becoming a lot of ties to Austin, Texas. A lot of growth was happening. Overall, We're a small city, you know, I think by pure Sacramento it was like five hundred thousand people were not a very big city. Obviously it expands and we have suburbs, but to see that, there's just no way you can't really like tie dot for dot business wise, probably with the Kings being successful, but like a sense of unity obviously helps an excuse to go out downtown. Every single bar on Saturday was packed to the brim with people watching the game. Obviously, ticket prices are a little spending now, so a lot of people can't go. Plus it's limited, it's eighteen thousand people or whatever. But to see the local businesses, to see you know, even little things like Shack and Charles Barkley talking about the Kings, it like feels kind of weird, you know, I'm watching all
15:31 the highlights and and seeing things on Twitter. It's just, uh, it's different. But it's good for the city for sure. Yeah. Bill Simmons tweeted during Saturday's game, if um, it's right at the end of the game, he said, if if Steph Curry sinks a three, that wins this game, this game is the best game of the season. And even if he doesn't, ye Like, Yeah, it was intense and last night's game was in some ways better. Yeah, it was really intense last night, a little bit more back and forth. We had a lot of bigger runs last night. I think that without looking at the stats, like the entirety of the game Saturday was a little bit closer. This one had some like ten point runs and some comebacks, a little bit of drama with the Draymond Green things. I don't know if you guys are basketball fans or sportsman's out there, but um, yeah, I don't know, and I haven't watched basketball like that in a long time. And I had like the two K view. You know, I don't know if you're playing two K, but like it's like a perfect bird's eye view. It's our upper decks tall, but it's really steep on purpose, so no one's ever obstructing your view.
16:34 Like I can see a perfect court, like unless you see forty Yeah, that's only on the floor. I'm not down there. Like the view, the engineering of this arena is insane actual and so like my view is so good to like watch it. I kind of watch basketball like I watch powerlifting, like you don't really watch as a fan. I watch as like coach kind of. Yeah. I mean that that upper level view lets you see plays developing like you were looking at a white board. No exactly. Yeah, I like the perfect angle and even like which I didn't notice for the first time, not that I haven't set up or deck, I for sure have at some point, but um, I could see the arc of the ball. I could see the bar the ball path like perfectly, Like I could see a release his hand and that it's gonna be a miss.
17:18 Yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah. I was only a couple of times shocked that the baskets were made when when shots were taken, which is just so different from even being on accord playing in a big arena like that. I don't know if anyone played basketball, but the depth perception is so hard when you play in high school and majority of colleges unless you go to Kentucky or something, but even that's rare. Um, there's there's a backdrop, there's something behind the hoop, right, and so you take that out, and it's so hard on the backboards obviously see through. Even if it wasn't see through, it was white. Like your depth perception so hard. I played at like Sex State a couple of times, UM, which is bigger than a high school arena, but not NBA, and yeah, your depth perception gets fucked. That's why. Um, in baseball they have a hitter's backdrop, so like, yeah, it makes sense, like beyond beyond the picture, way on the actually on the other side of the stadium. It's just it's so solid. Yeah, yeah, with your eyes a long yeah, because otherwise you can't actually, you know, the depth perception is just not there. You can't figure out what the hell the ball is. Yeah, it's hard. Um, what was I gonna say? Uh? These games have been not without controversy where I'm alluding a little bit to the the e forty thing and we were just hearing a firsthand account of it and from someone here at the gym, and there isn't any clarity at all. It's actually what the hell happened? And you never know, right besides the person chirping out him and whoever he's chirping back out. It is kind of funny
18:51 to me, like now there's like this NorCal thing going on. But it's never been a rivalry, not really no, Yeah, because like when we were good, they were trash, like in the nineties, were both kind of trash, like you know what I mean. The rivalry means you're going head to head all the time. And they've been good for for the last few years. Yeah. And and the Kings suck. Yeah, they drafted Steph Curry gave him two years and then he started a run, so he's probably been good. Yeah, the Warriors been solid eight eight years. The King's obviously been pretty bad for fifteen years and not good for seventeen plus. So you know, yeah, what's the rivalry? Yeah there is one, and everyone here is like A's fans and Giants fans and Niners fans like that's you know, that's what I like about Norkel, Like Norkel is the one thing. Yeah, you know, it's kind of one unit. I will say though, that Steve Kerr is he said that if if the Kings beat them this around, they're not going to be like norcl cheering for the Kings.
19:49 It's like, damn, yeah, that's my stop. Yeah, come on, Stevie, who does he want to cheer for? Is he? Is he a? No, he's an Arizona guy. He's an Arizona guy. Yeah. I was gonna say he gives h East Bay vibe. I think that he and Tom Tolbert both played with Kenny Lofton. Oh maybe at Arizona. That's funny. Yeah, I was just Kenny Lofton fan because Cleveland Yeah, um, yeah, I don't know. And Mike Brown and Steve car obviously really close, I think, but anyone who knows what he's saying, he could have just said that in jest, and even not like who you're gonna share for anyways, he just yeah, it's all just Lakers. Yeah, it's all trash. Yeah, I think the Lakers are up though. I think the Lakers are up to Yeah, this is the first year in a while I feel like the West at least it's into CUPO. I know this Eternal Basketball podcast or right everyone, Um, this is what's going on with us right now? Yeah, yeah, this is what we're gonna talk about. Yeah, Milwaukee, uh into CUPO and injured and besides Milwaukee, the West is like a coin flip, kind of feels like March madness, like anybody could win. Yeah, and I said that. I said that two months ago. I said, man, that's great that the Kings are in third, but we're gonna have to play the Lakers, or we're gonna have to play the Warriors. And no one wants to play Lebron or Curry. I don't care if the teams are in shambles, you never want to play one of those guys. And so yeah, that's where we are now and the same thing. Yeah, the Lakers could have a little upset.
21:07 I think they're the seventh or eighth seed, and who knows, who knows what happens at least a little bit more drawn out, like Philly's really good, Boston's gonna be good. He'll probably be them too in the Eastern Conference, but who knows, but the West. That's kind of what makes the playoffs fun. The football was a good season like that, you never really knew what was happening. Warriors had trouble scoring last night when Curry wasn't on the court. Yeah, they kind of do. I think Pool is a little overrated, and honestly, the Kings are a really tough matchup for anyone because we have two or three guys that can cover a lot of positions and are really good defenders. We're just long and athletic. Like as a player myself obviously not in the NBA, but like the playing against Malik, Daron Fox and Davis Mitchell would be just like a nightmare because they're just up in your grill. They're they're energizer bunnies. They're long, they're really athletic, and all three of them are they're just guarding you all day like that.
22:03 Curry was tired. Yeah, you've never seen Curry tired before, and Pools looks like nothing. Last season, they thought he was gonna be the next steph Curry. This season, he looks like a fucking bench warmer. Yeah. Um yeah, we were up in their grills. The Kings are tough, man, The Kings are a tough matchup, and we shot terribly. If you look at the box of my god, yeah, if you look at the box score. M besides maybe turnovers, the Warriors won last night. Yeah, yeah, they shot better, they scored better, they rebounded better. Um, kind of the untangibles what we had. We played a lot of tough the we warm out fouls a little bit. But then even that, everyone's bitching about like the calls, and there was too many calls in my opinion, like the rest early in the game. Yeah, the rest needed chill, But it was on both sides. I think, I think, uh second half fouls like twenty six Warriors twenty five Kings.
22:51 So if you're looking purely analytics, um, it's not like it was that biased or anything, but the rest were just kind of ruining the game. They were ruining the flow. For sure. I do feel like and I don't know if this is something that happens. I was speaking out of my ass here, but I feel like the financial condition of every referee for every major sport should be examined before they're allowed to officiate in playoff games in terms of gambling. Yeah, yeah, just like what the what does their finances look like like? Are they having big influxes or outflows of cash? Yeah? I haven't heard yet. Yeah, for sure, and especially after that documentary came out. I didn't finish it. Um, I haven't seen it yet. We have to watch it. Yeah, maybe we do a podcast on it. Have you seen air? No, it's just in the theaters, but it's coming to Amazon. Yeah, I think I definitely want to.
23:41 I've heard that. I've heard mixed reviews. I think. Um, a couple of members told me it was really good, and they all know I'm into sneakers. But then I read a bunch of like sneaker blogs on it and they said it was good, but they were they wished it was a little more sneaker driven, where it turned into like a business drama, which is cool because that's what it was also, I'm sure I'll enjoy it either way. But yeah, for those that don't know, it's like the I think it's the Nike Jordan recruiting story. Yeah. Um, there's a lot of cool stories like that, Like Alan Iverson has one too, I think. Um. They played a little bit of it, which I liked in the Serena Williams movie. Yeah, they were talking about the back end, like signage and what it looks like and what the money looks like. There was a little bit of it in um Showtime, Game Time. Oh yeah, whatever the hell it's called yeah, the Lakers fictional series. Yeah, yeah, Magic Converse. Um. Yeah, because it's it is, it's it's like such and that's what I like even about lifting. But that's what I like about basketball, is like the culture is deeper than just like twos and threes. Yeah, the culture is about sneakers, it's about business, it's about music, it's about cities. So I saw a fantastic example of that um in London. It's actually it was also in New York at some point it was called Beyond the Streets and it was a um uh, they basically took over this entire gallery. There was like thirteen thirteen rooms in this in this gallery in London. It was um the Origin and um Evolution
25:14 of Graffiti Art. Oh. Um, I might have seen that in la You may have. Yeah, I just watched a documentary on it too. Um. I this is the first time I've ever been to an art exhibit that I bought the book. It's not here yet, but you liked it? Oh fuck? It was so good, dude, I wonder if it. Yeah. It was right next to Barbara Brigade. Oh really, right next to and we went this is seven years ago, six years ago, Okay. And then the documentary I just watched, Uh, was about be Real and Cypress Hill, but it was about there, Like first DJ, this what I text you and Eddie to watch. Uh. Do you watch it? Yeah? And it actually it's about music, and it's about culture and it's about graffiti. But what it's really about is their DJ like passion for photography. Oh wow. Yeah. And he had an exhibit here.
26:06 Uh. And obviously a bunch of like streetwear guys that I follow and ship. But I'm pretty sure that's what I saw. I might be wrong, but it has obey. It had a bunch of things. Yeah. Um, there have been actually, I think a couple of different versions of this. There's one that was in LA that's all Beastie Boys. Um. I was a random, huge fan of and and part of this one UM featured beast Boys stuff. But it was like how how graffiti culture started and how it was initially tied into the punk music. Yeah, I think that then it evolved into being tied into into hip hop and then fashion. Yeah, and it was crazy. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure this is what I saw or or like the beginnings of it, like eight years ago, because now it looks like it's a big old deal all over run DMCA costumes because they were sponsored by Adidas for years, yeah, which is crazy. Yeah. They might have been the first rap group to have stuff like that. Yeah, now it's not uncommon. This is kind of the first viral um uh graffiti ever. C that is God like clearly all the stuff that that led to, like banks and some of these huge Ye.
27:14 I saw a couple of Banksi's because we went to Bristol, which is where Banksy came from. Yeah. Yeah, the UK obviously not known for like hip hop in the street culture because like a lot of it obviously was. It was created in New York and then Los Angeles and spread to different cities atlant et cetera. But um, I think they've done a cool job of making it their own over over time. Clothing. Some more of the run DMC stuff actually sneakers signed, and it's kind of like the same sneakers I have on d Yeah for sure, Yeah they Yeah, I love this stuff. Yeah, I know. It was great. I was like, of all the things that I did in the whole month that we were in Europe, that was the thing I wish you guys were there for, yeah, because you would have that. And we and one day, um, early in the trip, we went to Portobell Market on a Saturday, which is a neighborhood but it's also like a giant street market. It just like that closed the street down and it's the booths all the way down and then there's like Finch's clothing stores and high end restaurants and all that kind of shit.
28:23 And I would say seventy five percent of the people that I saw, of all ages, were fucking dressed to the nines. Yeah, And I don't mean that they were like wearing fancy shit. Probably that they were wearing like full on, like head to toe planned out outfits. Yeah, it was like curated and thought exactly exactly. I was blown away by that we were walking around like our jaws on the ground Jesus Christ, like like the creativity around putting that together and having to just be so you know, perfect. I think a lot of people that aren't into clothes or like, like I said, it's so tied to basketball for me and hip hop that I just grew up loving basketball and then you turn to hip hop and then you turn to sneakers and you turn to clothes. Like it just there's no way about it. But a lot of people that don't look at that or like go to that, or grew up in that, or don't like it. I think sometimes misinterpreted that it's like gate keepee. But to me, and I'm no voice in the fashion industry by any means, but to me, it's literally just about like building your own confidence and then like having fun. Like you don't you don't have to like follow rules, you don't have to wear a certain company, you don't have to wear a certain style. It's just about like, all right, what pieces do you think are cool? Like it could. It could be as easy as that. All art can be as cool as that music anything. It doesn't have to have this deep meaning,
29:53 this deep story. It could just be like, yeah, man, I think that's cool, right, Yeah, just I think that looks cool. Okay, Then fucking wear it if it makes you feel good. This is how I wanted to represent myself. Yeah yeah, I saw I saw whoever this guy wear that? And I thought it was cool. And I found this hat and reminded me of that, so I wore it. Yeah, fucking do it if it makes you feel good. But that's all it really is to me, And I think that's where it ties into sports, is like confidence. You know, baseball, golf, basketball, it doesn't really matter, but you gotta like really believe, you gotta like hype your own shit up. We talked about a little bit how egotistical that one golfer was in the golf documentary, but like you kind of need that, Like if you think you're gonna be the best and you think every SHOT's gonna go in, like you kind of have to do everything in your life like it will. You can't just like you can't walk around all sad with your head down, all scrungy and then expect to step on a basketball court and think you're a god, right, Like you got to kind of walk the walk and really live that. And I think that's where the clothes kind of come in because it is obviously things we wear all day every day. So as soon as you wake up, you got the music going, you put on your sneakers, you choose your fit to look good to go to the arena.
31:03 I read a big article. I forget what the blog is. Maybe it's both I don't really know a Stanza and it's not both of these nuts, but it's both of something. It's like bof and it's about how the tunnel walk in basketball over the last four years into yeah yeah, and like it was kind of always a thing, like I always put out my outfit going to the games, and you pack your bag and you get ready. But like the NBA, maybe it's just because of a newer generation or like their ties to fashion or their ties to who knows what, but yeah, it's it's like a yeah, it's a red carpet walk every time you get down the tunnel, which is I think it is a cool thing. And then the NFL obviously does it a good amount. I'm sure baseball does it a good amount. Of Baseball it started doing it more this year than I've ever seen before, because I mean, all those guys watch each other, and a lot of these guys grew up, even though they're so specialized, a lot of the guys grew up playing all three sports. Yeah, yeah, a lot of them did. I think that this is something we've talked about in terms of powerlifting gear or just you know, not not not like equipment, but like you know, your shoes or your shorts or your belt or whatever whatever that Um it's like putting on a costume when you're playing a role. Yeah yeah, yeah, if you don't think you can pull seven hundred, but then you build some confidence by your outfit, your sneakers, your belt, Yeah, you're more likely going to pull seven hundred, there's just no doubt. Yeah, it's a little bit of a placebo effect.
32:34 But like it what the things that build your confidence that don't hurt anybody else or like gravy? Right? Yeah, I wonder what the origin for lack of a better term of like wearing suits and business meetings are, like if it's related to that oh, I think it probably is right, like to show your wealth, yeah, or something like if you go way back to whatever the fuck it's fourteen hundred or something. Yeah, it's like to show that your success well even now, right, Like realtors and people will drive a fucking Lexus because they're like, hey, I know what I'm doing right, Like this is proof that what I do works and what I'm about to sell you or tell you works I remember talking to my dad because he did outside sales for a bunch of companies, but and that he would get like car stipends, right because you'd have to go drive to a reno and sell whatever. And my dad was like he read a lot of books like that, although he wasn't a big reader, he would read like leadership and selling books and stuff. And I was with him shopping for his last car, which I drove for a long time afterwards. But I remember him talking about that a little bit. And I don't know if he's right or wrong, but he was like, yeah, I don't really want to come in with like a Benz because then it's like I'm, you know, going too hard.
33:43 He's like, I just want something like clean and normal but nice you know, and so he shows like a upgraded like Subaru or something and reliable. Obviously he wanted something normal. But the psychology of all that definitely plays a role. And I think everything we do, and that's again why I like clothes, right, Like, yeah, you wear a suit, you nice, you feel nice, You're going to go in with confidence and maybe a smile on when you go to your big lawyer's meeting or whatever. But it's a little bit like armor, Yeah for sure. Yeah. Like I think, like you said, like playing of characters is really good. I think it was Kate Spade quote and I whip this out and people like, how the fuck do you know that? I'm like, I don't know, I just reach it, Like, why do you know a Kate Spade quote? I think it's Kate Spade. She said something like, um, don't quote me on this quote because I'm gonna butcher the fun out of it.
34:27 But it's basically like we play dress up when we're age eight, and I believe that we should never stop or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, like why wouldn't you want to dress or pretend the role that you want to be? Yeah? Another one that thinks and I know you don't like it that much, But pursuit of happiness I think I think about that, Like he's always run around in a suit, and obviously, poor guys, is the only clothes you had at the time. But he's like trying to like like fake it so you make it type role. Yeah, you know, he's in these huge Wall Street esque meetings in San Francisco trying to become the guy meanwhile sleeping in a subway, but he's putting on the suit. I think there's a scene where the guy asked him to grab a coffee or pay for his taxi and it's his last five dollars and he just does it just to believe in it. Like it's a little like manifest worldly. But I do kind of believe in all that because I think it Whether you want to believe it actual, that's fine with me if you're all spiritual and whatever.
35:16 But I think if you love to like kind of bleed down to reality, there's applicable things that work there too, Like the pure confidence, just confidence is going to take you further than not. Yeah, because so much of like a first impression is about about confidence. It's like striking the right tone with people and yeah, so all these folks that I'm seeing and these totally fitted out like you, and you wonder like, is that do they dress like that every day or do they have one outfit like that that they want to be seen in. Yeah, yeah, you don't know. And then and then what I wonder is why why they are not here? Or like why why did that city it's Paris was the same kind of thing too.
35:59 While that it was it was not all concentrated in one place, but it was h I mean all ages again, all ages, Like it's probably more likely in New York, in LA Yeah, maybe even San Francisco than Arkansas. But I wonder why even that is, Like it is it superficial because there's probably there may be a fact of that too where you're literally just because then there's people that buy product belts and Gucci bags that that can't afford it and they're just trying to like fake that role rather than I do think. Yeah, like building your confidence through expressing yourself or being comfortable, it's probably a fine line there. Yeah, it's not necessarily the cost of what you wear, and it's something I don't know. I've been deep into succession this season is it's nuts, and they talk about how because the characters are super super rich, but they're wearing very plain looking stuff a lot of the time.
36:52 But it's incredibly expensive, plain looking stuff. Oh yeah, yeah, I know I've known guys like that, but I've also known guys one of the richest people I've ever met in my life. Yeah, I drove an eighty five Volvo and wore a flannel shirt that probably it wasn't one of those. It probably did cost fifteen dollars from Costco. Yeah it was. It was a Penduleton and not a not a you know, yeah hidden Gucci or yeah whatever. Yeah, it is funny how old that works. Yeah, So to bring it back around a little bit to a fitness thing, but it is about appearances. I saw this on Jordan Feigenbaum's Instagram today. The question is whether you would rather look jacked and not be that strong, Oh yeah, or be strong and not look that jacked. I mean that's the old school bodybuilder versus powerlifter, right, Like the new school powerlifter is jacked because raw just makes you that way, and people are so precise. Y're trying to get in a weight class, so you look like a russ orhe and all these guys of Bob Matthews there they look the part also, and so that argument's kind of nil and void now. And I guess to back on my body bodybuilder friends, A lot of them are strong, just don't display it. Yeah, right, Like I'm sure Phil heath Bench is well over four hundred pounds when he wants to dig in. Bradley Martin is a good example that dude can throw around weights. They are. It's a freak though, Yeah, yeah he is. And it's all close more closely related than we thought. Larry Wheels, although talk about controversy or boy Larry,
38:25 Okay, Larry dive in because I don't know. There's clips going around. I don't like to talk about it too much just based on clips. I normally like to do research and I haven't yet. I haven't had time because I think it came out yesterday. But he did a podcast with Bradley last week, and he's very open about his recreational drug use, and I think just talking about how crazy, and I think I get where he was going, but it is weird. And I've talked about this with Barred a lot on YouTube. How um and maybe I'm too traditional or old school with it, but I think you know, the spider Man ship, when you when you get great power, you get responsibility. And so when you get a big following, you have a responsibility to at least try to set some standards and at least think about what you're saying to who. Right, we don't know who's listening to this. It could be a four year old, you know, we don't know. It could be an eighty year old, it could be someone whatever. We won't apologize for the swearing because we carry an E for that, but beyond that, yeah, and even beyond that, Yeah, it gets so much worse than swearing, right, Like they're talking about yeah, like irresponsible drug use or irresponsible Yeah, are you promoting drugs?
39:35 Are you talking about drugs? Are you educating? And basically he says that trend it's worse than I don't know if he does say ketamine for sure, but he claims other drugs, And I'm like, well, like, now what are we saying? So now are you like promoting ketamine? Like what's going on here? That's a good question and just how casual people talk about it, and I know it probably is casual for them, right, because they all do steroids or everyone around the parties on whatever drugs, and so the more you're exposed to something more casual, it becomes I understand that. Um, but if you're talking to millions and millions of people, impressionable young people, maybe we should watch our What is that show that's primarily like retired bodybuilders talking about shit that they've done. That's a podcast or a real show podcast, I don't know, but it's a podcast, but it's also like a video thing. I don't know. It sounds funny though, Um, podcast and video are the blinds are blurred right now? YouTube, just while I was gone, implemented um a category for podcasts, so we're like, we're we're currently in it are our feed is identified as a podcast feed.
40:50 Theoretically you could get featured at some point or whatever on there. There's a podcast page just like YouTube dot com slash podcasts. Most of the ones that are in there are not podcast interesting from my perspective. Yeah, it just shows. Yeah, yeah, I guess that line is very great now, right, yeah, because like the barber of a Gate show, I do, they just call it a show, but basically a ten minute podcast. Yeah, right, but yeah, what's the line? Doesn't matter? Does it not matter? I don't know the bodybuilding one that you're talking about, but everyone I thought five years ago everyone out of podcast, Yeah, and then everyone not didn't and then now yeah, everybody's got one. Yeah, because there, I mean, there is success to it. But then yeah, not to open this thing up to a whole another conversation. But we've talked about it two or attention spans or like ten seconds or like two hours, which is weird because Verence is like all TikTok. Yeah, that's ruining our attention span. But podcast viewership I guarantee as high as it's ever been. Yeah, And I mean I think that we would probably this is crazy, but but probably true. Like we used to do a longer show.
41:52 If we did a longer show, we might be better off. I maybe. Yeah. I don't know either. I just don't have the desire to do a longer show. Yeah, at this not forge of the game, Yeah, not forced for sure. Yeah, I mean we could come up with a lot of category shit to cover every time, and we could do you know, we can make it last longer or live streams. Yeah, and streamers go eight hours a day. Yeah, and I don't. I have no criticism for any of those people. That's if, you know, if they could do it and they're comfortable with it and they're putting out good content and people are enjoying it, that's great. It's just not for me at this point. It's a lot not for me at this point. But yeah, I mean, I'm going back to the question about what you look like. I mean I never felt like I looked like I was particularly strong, and I wasn't terribly terribly strong, but I but compared to the like the average person probably yeah, way stronger. That's the whole thing too.
42:43 Yeah, if you compared to the average, I think top one percent, like two twenty five bench press yea world, Yeah, which is crazy. I saw a lot of like very in shape people while I was gone to I was you see fear of fat people in Europe for whatever reason. I just overweight. I don't know what I'm supposed to say, but like fat's fine, fat, Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, And I don't even I don't know why except maybe just so much more walking. I think walking for sure for sure. Like the portion thing I've heard that like they come over here and they'll see like our portions at a restaurant, they're like goldly cow here. Yeah, but I so much as walking. Um, there's no city you walk here besides what maybe even San Francisco. They don't walk that much. Like it's New York and it's Manhattan. Yeah, it's Manhattan. It's not even all over the boroughs. And then that's it.
43:35 Like I imagine Chicago. You're driving Boston, I've been to. Most people are driving. I am downtown Sack. But then our weather has been crazy. Yeah. I lost about seven pounds while we were gone. You said twenty thousand stead of average twenty thousand steps a day. That was a lot. Yeah, I mean, and it is that easy when people want to talk about losing weight. You get up your steps, man, you get a long ways. Yeah, no, it really, it really makes the difference. It's it's it's not as important is what you eat, but it's almost as important. That's what you eat. Yeah. Yeah, you can't one for one counteract shit. But I know my cutting and I've been waiting for it because Bart keeps Bart's gonna try to do a bodybuilding show. I don't know if that's a spoiler. Sorry, Bart, He's gonna try to do a body million show, I think, and so he I'm handling him at his meat this weekend, and then I think he's cutting crazy and I was like, we're I'll cut with you, like just to show support.
44:21 I was like, but I need some sun because the only way I do it is when I walk him bike ride right, Like I've lost some weight, I'm down, I'm down ten pounds since December, but like to really cut, I need sun to make me want to go outside. Like even this morning, I was debating it. But it's fifty degrees still. I looked at the thing. I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna ride my bike in fifty degrees, like my hands get cold. Then I'm in here cold. Ye, Like it's just too much. But if we get into some sixty seventies, which I think are on the way again, yeah, it makes it so much easier to walk bike just yeah, be outside. I was gonna, I was actually gonna go out this morning, but I didn't. I got involved in looking at different things and and just didn't go. But but you know, it's not gonna get so hot today that I want to do it later in the day. No, yeah, it'd be nice. Yeah, and yeah, I'll just do cardio inside rather than outside. But it is much easier outside. You get a little sun and breathe. Yeah. Well that's all I got about all I got for today, Ladies and Gentlemen. New episodes every single Wednesday and Friday. Uh three, SB dot coo new clothes coming early May and mid June. Stay tuned if you want to get involved, good company, Discord dot com.
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