“Stone Cold” Steve Austin Documentary: A 50% Facts review

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Welcome. We're going to talk today
about something that this is not actually happened.

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Has this happened before us? As
before we watched a documentary about somebody

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that we have actually spent time with
in real life. Um, I don't

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think we did. Jane Crocs.
Did we do a review? Oh?

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Yeah we did. Actually that's what
that's Jane Croc. I would say American

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Gladiators walks the line just because of
Jen and Michael Hearn. Obviously they weren't

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featured in this American Gladiators. Trying
to think of the other ones, probably

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not, Yeah, so so Croc's
got to be the Yeah. Yeah,

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I was even trying to think of
the other sports we've done, because there's

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a new quarterback one that we should
probably cover. I heard was good,

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but I haven't heard of We want
to follow up the tennis one, but

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I haven't seen the second part of
it come out yet. Yeah, is

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it just a new season? Uh
no, it's the second half of the

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first season. Because I didn't even
finish it, had paused it. Yeah,

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I did like three of those,
and then yeah, we could catch

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up on that, but I don't
know anything. And then tennis players,

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and then I think the Golf one
was supposed to have a second season or

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second half too, but god knows
what the fuck they're going to do there.

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Hopefully they just cover the news.
Yeah, I mean it was such

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a big deal in the first season
of it. That was like half of

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the drama, right, so I
assume they just covered again. I watched

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a little golf this weekend. There's
the what's it called the Celebrity Tournament,

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the one that Steph Curry was Yeah. Yeah, So if you're Steph Curry,

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how much longer do you play basketball? And then you just like transition

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to the good the golf Tour.
I think they said he was the first

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active athlete to win the Celebrity Tournament's
possibility. Yeah, and then only second

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basketball player, which was another Sacramento
Cat, Vinnie del Negro, won it

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in like the nineties or early two
thousands. I heard this, Steph Curry

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like, is a like really good
golfer. Yeah, he's gonna like a

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scratch golfer him could probably make that
transition should he so choose. Not that

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he's gonna need the money, but
yeah, no, I mean just competitive,

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he might. But you can golf, you know, you can be

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a golf pro tier fifty fifty five
sixty. Yeah, so he might as

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well. He's still playing really good
basketball. He made a quote in the

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interview which was cool about Kings fans
at the Tahoe event. Oh yeah,

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and then there's like a snippet of
him saying he wouldn't mind being part of

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the beam before he retires, which
is cool. That's very interesting. I

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wouldn't have guessed that was going to
be the case. Yeah. I mean

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he lives in Oakland, you know, Yeah, same shit, he's been

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there forever. Yeah, who knows, Maybe like Sacramento, maybe he likes

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the fans. Maybe he just likes
Tahoe golf and we're an hour closer.

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Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, you could definitely turn pro a lot

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of golfers. That's like the argument. And I don't know like the data,

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but I'm sure we could look it
up. When I got in a

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discussion the day with Colin and Munch
of the guys about like what athletes or

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what sports athletes would be the best
put into any other sport. And I

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always sound by because I'm a basketball
player, but it's just true, like

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every basketball player I know, not
everyone, but a lot of basketball players

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I know are like sick at golf, and everyone says like golf's the hardest

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sport, and golf is really fucking
hard, of course, But like I

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know, Tons, my buddy who
played at Saint Mary's and now plays pro

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in Australia's shout out to Clint.
Clint can golf like a motherfucker. He's

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six seven shooting guard on the Aussia
national team. Golf's like a bitch,

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you know, Jordan, even though
everyone talks all this shit like Jordan,

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I'll golf. Anyone listening here,
you know, like is he a pro?

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No? But there's just so many
guys, and obviously there's just good

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athletes because in that celebrity tournament and
in general, all these X quarterbacks and

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shit will go and turn into golfers
because they have no time or they have

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all the time in the world so
they can just practice. But football,

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there's so many positions that can't even
fucking catch a ball. That's the difference.

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Yeah, everyone tries. The basketball
is the only sport where you do

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every single thing. Yeah, that's
true. More of an all around athlete,

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so you have a better shot at
having been good at other other sports.

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Everyone's got to put a ball through
a small hole. Yeah, and

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that's what you got to doing golf, not that it obviously translates because you

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got a stake and I understand all
that. But the hand eye coordination representative

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of a quarterback might fit into golf, but the hand eye coordination of an

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offensive lineman has nothing to do with
golf. So if you're a kid,

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um like, you can play soccer
almost all year round, you can play

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baseball a good amount of the year
because they're depending where you live. Do

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you bring away that because some of
them have you know, UM different organizations.

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You can play rerect league stuff.
You can play play UM other organizations,

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little league and UM and beyond football
kind of Yeah, I don't think

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they do it just because your body, your body can't take it. But

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what about basketball, Yeah, you're
around easy, but I'd say basketball is

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the most year round. Yeah,
yeah, even an NBA. Yeah,

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basketball is the most year round.
You know, you're indoors, you're indoors,

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and then like your body doesn't take
the hit of football. Yeah,

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I'd say it's probably the most most
covered. And that's like some issues people

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think with injuries and shitt and coming
out. But yeah, those guys AAU

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goes year round. Some dudes are
playing like two teams during their high school

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season sometimes geez. Yeah, and
then the Summer League and the NBA is

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getting huge, so that's going crazy. It's always been a thing, but

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now it's like cool for some reason. It is cool for some reason.

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Yeah, just over the last couple
of years, it's been maybe the G

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League. You know, the truth
is it's probably the NBA's marketing. It's

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hard to like give it to anything
else. Obviously talent levels high, but

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NBA marketing to make the G League
big. Yeah, it's all tied into

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the Summer League because that's all like
rookies and G League players. So yeah,

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maybe they're just succeeding at their five
year marketing plan. And then was

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it the Ignite or something they started
like a whole new league, they started

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like a college league. Yeah,
so I think maybe, yeah, they're

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just geniuses. I guess maybe.
So yeah, because everyone's there. Bart

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Bart just text me yesterday he was
in the gym. I don't know what

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Jimmy was. He might have been
at Stands gym and he's like chatting with

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the Rockets coaching staff. Oh really
Yeah, he's just like, yeah,

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dude, the Rockets are still in
town. I'm talking to him. I'm

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like, oh shit, I'm still
in town. Yeah. I think it's

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playoffs for summer league. Oh oh
yeah, yeah, so I think there's

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like four teams left or something.
Yeah, I don't know. But golf,

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I mean shit, there's obviously injuries, but it's kind of a sweet

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deal. I think I even think
tennis. Not that it's easy. I'm

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not saying nay, that's easy,
but like, I feel like it's just

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way less chance of injury than football, basketball, soccer, and nobody gonna

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hit you out of nowhere. Yeah
that actually that's a fair point. But

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if you think about it, um, you know, professional unscripted sports,

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yeah, can be dangerous, but
like professional scripted sports, like wrestling,

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seems like the level of danger is
really tacked up. Yeah. I've never

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been in one of those wrestling rings, but they look like they're a little

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forgiving. But I also didn't know. The biggest thing I found from this

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documentary is that I didn't know.
I think maybe I just got lucky because

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people say the golden rare basketball is
obviously around Jordan too, which is my

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generation as a kid. But then
same with wrestling, I only watched and

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I didn't know that. I didn't
purposely choose that. It was just like

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perfectly in my age gap from like
ten to fifteen, that The Rock and

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Stone Cold were doing it. And
then yeah, when I was younger in

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ten, I just wasn't allowed to
watch it. And then when I got

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to like thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, I just knew was fake. It

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wasn't as interested and Stone Cold and
The Rock start to leave, you know

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what I mean. So like I
hit this perfect gap of wrestling coolness and

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my dad like kinda knew about it
because he would like joke about Jake the

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Snake, Like I didn't know.
Yeah, I didn't know the timelines of

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the business, I guess. And
this documentary talked about the ECW being kind

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of the king, and I knew
was a WCW. Was that Colgan mostly,

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I believe that's correct, Yeah,
and so that was pretty popular,

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and I know whole Colgan wasn't the
w w E or WWF at the time,

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and I knew the WWF was new
and upcoming, but I didn't know,

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yeah, the crossover and that ECW
was like the crazy shit, and

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then Vince McMahon took that. It
does seem like Vince McMahon and them are

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fucking geniuses, you know. Yeah, it um. The documentary really doves

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into to what Man kind of brought
to the table in terms of making wrestling

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super mainstream, not just a little
mainstream, but super in the zeitgeist.

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And some of it you call like
dumb luck or like stars aligning, because

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yeah, you do need the talent
to show up, and he got the

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Rock and Stone Cold and then maybe
it was just that era in TV two

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right, because he got like fucking
Spike TVs becoming a thing. Then the

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Man Show, like that era is
just like gritty. The NFL's hitting the

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hardest hits, Like the NFL was
huge in the nineties because people are blowing

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each other's helmets all off. Even
basketball's physical more physical during that era,

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he got shock shipping on people.
You know, like that era was just

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kind of like crazy. I feel
like when I think of the and I

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was a kid, but when I
think of it, I think, yeah,

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like fucking monster trucks. I think
a Spike TV type shit. Yeah,

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from like ninety to like two thousand. The Rock was even on Star

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Trek. Oh really during that time. Yeah, he was on an episode

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of Voyager. Yeah, so we
fought seven and nine in an arena.

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He was getting that interview. You
know, I'm not a huge Rock fan,

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but he's good that interview. I
love The Rock as a wrestler.

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I mean as even to this day, I'll go back and watch Rock Stone

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Cold shit talk videos. Like the
wrestling itself, I think I liked when

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I was a kid because I like
the backflips and people beating each other up.

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But I even as a kid,
but even now, I like the

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shit talk better. Like the mic
work is just so funny, and Stone

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Cold and the Rock are the best
at it. For sure. They're so

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funny. They're the Muhammad Ali's of
They're the best reference for that because they

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actually are funny. And as a
documentary talks about like a bottle, Stone

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Cold stuff was just off the top
of his hat. Yeah, you know,

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he's just making it up and he's
like, yeah, I think I'm

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just striking golden. And when you
hang out with him, he kind of

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has some like theo Vanism in him
where I think just because he's from the

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South he'll just say shit, that's
kind of funny, you know, but

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it's probably just shit, his dad
said, probably maybe, you know,

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it's just like southern shit. Yeah, I forgot what he's like. He

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says, like, because we obviously
had the pleasure of having him on our

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podcast and then I like sat in
on one of his podcast and went to

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his house. He said, And
it's probably like a wrestling line, but

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it comes from whatever. He said. You can't take the door, you

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could take the window, I don't
care, but you gotta get the hell

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up out of here or something like
that. And you know, you're like,

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oh the fuck. You know,
it's just like funny shit that just

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but it rolls so smoothly out of
him. Yeah, you just can't help

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it, like laugh and I'm like, fuck, dude, it's it is

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a talent. Uh. The last
time that I saw him, spending a

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little over five years, UM didn't
show with him, and he just gave

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me shit the entire time. Yeah, he's funny. Man. Of all

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the targets in the room, he
gave me shit the entire time. Yeah,

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and and not in a malicious way
at all. He just was being

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funny. Yeah. I don't think
I don't think you could ever take him.

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That's what's funny about it. It
was like he is so intimidating.

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He's a big fuck because you think
about wrestlers like all it's fake, Like

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no, bro, he's like sixty
three two even still two twenty two thirty,

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Like he's a big fuck back in
the day. Who knows what he

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was. And then and then he's
talking aggressively too, like he's not always

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smiling, Like even his jokes are
kind of like in character. Yeah,

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they're um um a little like flat. Yeah, yeah, they're like brash.

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He's brash, but he is joking
and you can like feel it somehow,

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but you can't like see it if
you're just a read body language,

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you don't. Yeah, And that's
what they even said in the video in

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the beginning of the documentary is kind
of poetic. Or he's just like a

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stonecold Steve Austin or he said like
Steve Austin's a man outside of the ring,

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and Stonecold's the same man just in
the ring depending on my environment or

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something like that. Yeah, I
remember him telling us, I don't know

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it was the first show, which
like okay, so our first podcast he

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was one of the first like twenty
guests or something like that on the phone.

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I can't remember if it was in
that one or the later one where

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he talked about the fact that or
maybe it was offline that WWE, at

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least at the time, owned Stone
Cold. I know, I think every

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time you signed with the WWE,
they own all that. I think the

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Rock had to buy a ship back. Yeah, as I get to buy

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the Rock back. But that's why
he started his celebrity career as Dwayne Johnson,

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I believe, because I think I
think that's just part of the contract,

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like, hey, we're gonna build
you up with that characters. Yeah,

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owned by us, so the same
idea, right, all the Stone

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Cold T shirts he probably got,
He's like getting the whole cash. You

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know. Actually he got a lot
more than that the whole time. Yeah,

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that was That's actually a story that
he told him the first time that

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we um that it wasn't in this
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to be, but maybe they didn't
want people to know. They talked about

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the numbers. They said he made
like a mill and a quarter. The

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deal was, Um, he was
like, I'm still not making any money.

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you know, can we do a
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but he went to the w tw
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like a significant cut of the T
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I'm just saying they said okay,
because they didn't they didn't know. Yeah

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you know, and he was yeah, on his rise. But I just

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mean in general, the WW acts
as a large part of manager. That's

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all I meant. Oh, yeah, I know that that they're taking everyone

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like your your your name, isn't
your name? Another crazy thing that they

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didn't talk about is that, um, I don't know what the case is

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today, but as as as of
the last time I heard, UM,

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they're all independent contractors. They're they're
they're not interesting, they're not employees.

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So they just had a merger,
right is it UFC in WW there was

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just like a merger. Oh,
I don't know. I don't know if

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it was a sister company. I
remember there was a big merger happening.

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I think it was w B and
UFC, So that might play a role

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in some of that back end business
shit too. And now I've never watched

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it, but I know some of
the guys in there, you know,

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shut up to bron Stoneman Adam and
other guys. Our world's just collide a

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lot with ww for some reason.
I guess meatheads, Like wrestling is a

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thing you do when you can't go
to the NFL, and power lifting is

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the thing you do when you can't
go to the NFL. So you get

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like all the rejects. I don't
really know why, but for some reason,

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we know. I know tons of
people in there, and I think

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just all those guys are like lifters. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, my

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buddy Bronson's still find overseas or here. There's just a ton of people back

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and forth. Yeah. The merger
combining UFC and WWE will operate under a

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new name, t KO Group Holdings, with plans to go public on the

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Stock Exchange before the end of twenty
twenty three. Yeah, who knows what

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that'll bring. Endeavor owns UFC.
Yeah, actual Dana I sold most of

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it. Yeah, and I think
that McMahon is basically out of WWE.

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Probably, I don't blame him.
Yeah, Triple H looks like he's running

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the show. All that history is
good. It was such a good era

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because there's so many like mega stars
because they didn't even obviously Stone Cold in

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the Rock elevated things beyond and beyond, but like Triple H was famous as

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shit. You know. Yeah,
there's so many people in their rakishi.

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There's a lot of people that had
like big mainstream names and voices where now

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I don't know, maybe it's my
age or who hang out, but don't

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I can't name nobody besides my friends
in there. Yeah, you know,

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and you wonder how much that is
is like storytelling. How much that is

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just general culture not attaching to it, or how much is that is like

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the talent that is stonecolding them.
It's interesting too. I was looking through

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um his Wikipedia entry. Yeah,
and someone has meticulously like followed every fucking

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storyline, I'm sure, and and
documented it there. Wrestling fans are crazy,

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yeah, wrestling friends are crazy,
so like I wouldn't be surprised,

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So I guess John Cena would be
the other like superstar after them. But

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after that it kind of fell off
too, you know, like name the

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Roman Rains. Yeah, I don't
know if he's on that level. I

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don't know, he's a big name, he's related to the Rock, but

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I don't. I don't think.
I don't think they hit the stardom like

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Sena and fucking Stone Colden Rock those
three stick in my head and Holkogan yeah

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and yeah. Is that a talent
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Or is that a culture thing?
It's interesting too, m that the people

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that they talked to in this documentary, you know, the sort of famous

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wrestlers excuse me there, I mean
cultural bias either, all very well spoken.

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Yeah, especially like the ones you
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Mick Foley, Mick Foley so good, Yeah, mankind Cactus Jack like

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that was I don't know why.
As a kid, I just remember laughing.

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I think I thought he was the
craziest human on the planet. They're

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like that, like legitimately like decent
actors, you know, like Stone Cold

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didn't have to act that much because
it was just kind of him with a

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little attitude. They're all kind of
same thing, like whether it's his letting

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his narcissism out or what. He
was just kind of a cocky dude as

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a wrestler, but it played well. Some of the other guys. I

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guess we're a little corny. You
look at like a Christian in Edge.

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I don't know if you watched a
lot during that era, but those guys

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were pretty popular too, and they
were in a couple of movies and their

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acting was, yeah, a little
more in corny, but someone were just

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so good. They're so good.
Yeah, The Undertaker spoke really well,

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even obviously Vince McMahon. Yeah.
All the shit they put Vince through is

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funny, like how we wanted to
like write himself in but he just got

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beat up, right. Yeah,
and his relationship, but his relationship was

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stone cold. Is something I didn't
really know about because you always hear about

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that dynamic. We know, again, a lot of people in wrestling and

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kind of rubbed doubles with that whole
world. The culture of that business just

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seems so weird, you know,
like the hazing kind of but not hazing,

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like they don't purposely haze you,
but you gotta fucking pay your dues

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kind of. You kind of come
up with your own gimmick. You're like

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a writer and an actor and it's
kind of like a team. You have

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to prove yourself, but you also
just kind of like get lucky. Yeah,

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it just seems so complicated. I
do wish I would have given it

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a go when I was like twenty
Yeah, yeah, just like I would

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never want to live that life,
like the road life as an adult.

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Even as a kid, I probably
would have hated it, but at least

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I would have like sucked it up
and done it, because they literally are

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on the road, you know,
three hunder days of a year. Yeah.

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The place that he started out wrestling, yeah, in Texas. The

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venue that they use in Heels looks
so much like that, probably similar,

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And even the school, yeah,
where he started wrestling looks like a shut

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out. Our buddy Luke Hawks Luke's
drove me by his place in Louisiana once.

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We didn't go in, We just
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too, just like a square some
up BILLI says, wrestling on the wall.

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But we should point out that Luke
plays stone cold in Young Rock.

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Yeah, if Young Rock is still
go on, I think it is.

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I don't know. I heard good
reviews of it, so you assume move.

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Yeah. Still Heels is about to
come back some time next week or

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so. Yeah, I never watched
any of those. I don't know why

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Heels is good. I mean,
if if you like wrestling and you like

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wrestling compatible storylines. Yeah, and
then there's actually good acting too, so

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you know, Stephen and Mel kills
it. He's good. Yeah, And

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that's what everyone says about a even
young Rock, that it was solid.

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I don't know, I think,
yeah, I literally haven't watched Rustlom since

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I like, stop watching eighth grade. Yeah, start watching UFC and the

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w EC, and then that was
it. Shout out to the short kings

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um uh Luke is considerably shorter than
Yeah, he's probably right maybe, yeah,

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he's about five ebies. Yeah.
Yeah, and Stonecold is a big

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bitch. But I'm sure they didn't
get because I think the Rock six four

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two, Yeah, so I'm sure, like whoever plays a Rock isn't.

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I mean, chances are just low, possible possible. What A thing that

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I was definitely struck by was having
having talked to the guy, having hung

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out with him. I mean what
you saw in the documentary that was that's

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pretty much how his Yeah he's good
and he's good, he's raw. What

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I didn't know it is all like
the mini adversities, and obviously that's what

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makes like a story or like how
seemingly lost he was and felt in between

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gaps of work. Yeah, you
know, even like pointed alcoholism and senses,

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but like even not like it's just
so charming how he says it.

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He says something like I was say
in the bottle harder than you might think

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or something. You know, You're
like, wow, so you're saying you

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were drunk, you know, like
rather than saying like I had problems with

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alcohol. Just how he says everything
makes me giggle, even though he's like

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probably trying not to be funny,
but I'm sure he was trying not to

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be funny. But the yeah,
the thing about that that's interesting is like

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he has a beer now yea,
and yeah his gimmicks beer yeah yeah,

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So like yeah, so is that
a gimmick or or are you just chucking

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beer? Even because there was b
roll of him walking into hotels and he

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had cans of be in his hand, I was like, well, listen

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to longer a gimmick like you're in
a hotel, no one's around, Paparazzi's

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not around. He had two bears
in his hands. I was like,

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well, yeah, and we've heard
about the life similar to the American gladiator

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life that we we just covered like
the road life does sound like, Yeah,

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you're just drinking and taking whatever pills
allow you to breathe and not hurt,

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because because I'd imagine the pains in
American gladia are probably similar to the

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pains in wrestling. Yeah, it's
like, well the movie The Wrestler,

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Yeah, that's actually supposed to be
pretty accurate in a lot of ways,

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I'm sure, and even in like
those ras, like because people are like,

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oh, well there's Monday Night Raw
or whatever and then Thursday and it

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was a SmackDown. But I think
they perform like six days a week because

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there's a lot of shows they'll they'll
do with the big names at their house

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shows yeah that won't go end up
on TV. Yeah, and those still

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flowing arenas or whatever or let alone. The pay per views hurt just as

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bad, oh yeah or more.
Yeah, I mean all that hurts,

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like yeah, fake or not.
I mean you're getting thrown through a table.

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Yeah, the table's probably semi flimsy
to made to class, but you

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can't like it's not a balloon,
yeah yeah, like, and it isn't

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two twenty pound man jumping on you, like I sure hurt. It's like

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I think it was one of the
Vince mcman talked about getting kicked in the

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dick all the time. Yeah,
that's gotta hurt. All the chairs you're

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getting hit with. Yeah, it
is funny, it's don't called the One

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of the funnier parts was he was
talking about He's like I started getting I

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was a professional at hitting people with
things, So I started getting good at

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hitting people with things. He's like
fucking testing toilet pans or bed pans on

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his head. Yeah, before he
wants to smack mans, Like, that's

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gotta hurt. Yeah, to get
that noise is gonna hurt. It's funny.

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It is funny. The lengths they
all went through, there's some incredible

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storylines and scenes like and I remembered
some of them, like the Corvette getting

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filled up with cement. There was
another one where I think he had a

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forklift, which is funny because in
the documentary talks about working for a forklift

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company and being Hella good at it. But I think he's driving a forklift

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and tries to flip someone's truck or
maybe beat through Vince McMahon or even the

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rock in a dumpster and then lifts
it around with a forklift, just like

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the funniest shit. I don't know
why. It was like hello, good

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memories and like prominent in my head
because you don't watch reruns of that stuff.

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Yeah, I mean some people do
no offense my wrestling nerds out there,

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but I do not watch the reruns
of that. That was That was

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The beauty of it is that it
was live, and it was weekly.

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It was reality TV, yeah,
and there wasn't a lot of reality TV

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going on, And actually it's probably
the most beautiful part of reality TV because

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it's scripted and we all kind of
know it where every other reality TV scripted,

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but we pretend like it's not.
Yeah, where this you kind of

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know, like, oh, something's
gonna happen. Yeah, so good.

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His iconic walk, everything about him
is just so funny. I don't know

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why. I think too that if
you have never sat very close to a

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ring during any kind of wrestling,
but particularly w w E, you don't

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know how acrobatic and choreographed it feels
and looks like you have to have some

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serious gills as opposed to not just
don't just pain intolerance, but skills to

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pull off any of that. No, it's literally like dancing because like one

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dude's like leading and he you know
when he grabs your left wrist and your

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right shoulder that this move is coming, but he's not telling you and it's

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not written down right, it's just
like, all right, well now we're

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doing this, and you just kind
of flow through whatever and the trust,

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Yeah, you know, because I'm
trusting this dude that he knows how to

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do this move without killing me and
he's about to throw me out the ring,

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which they talked about, I don't
even know the guy was Owen.

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What was the guy that actually fucking
almost killed Stone cold Heart? Yeah,

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I think so, Yeah, Oh
it was it was a Bret Hart.

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Yeah, I don't know that arrow
was like a little early for me.

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And whoever it was, it was
some big name because I know the name,

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but I didn't know the guy and
Yang it was fucking Crystone Coold's head

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through the ground. I want no
one's like gotting that fucked up though,

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right, because you'd imagine that'd be
mainstream stories. I do think that it's

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happened. I don't know if it's
happened at level. Yeah, probably those

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minor leagues, just like because there's
so many moves that you're getting slammed on

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your head and one false move you're
gonna get fucking Yeah. I mean he

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said he went number for a fucking
day and um and ended up in the

405
00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:25.680
hospital. And like I think that
like he really as much as he could

406
00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:27.759
possibly could. He just kept working
through those injuries the way they do.

407
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:32.039
And part of the reason that that's
the case is that like if you don't

408
00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:33.960
work, get paid. Yeah you
got you know, I mean he had

409
00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:38.200
he talked about one guaranteed contract and
that was it. Yeah, that's wild,

410
00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:41.960
right, and he's the guy.
Yeah, yeah, I wonder if

411
00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:44.400
that stuff might be different now,
you know, who knows, just because

412
00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:48.960
there's unions and obviously there were unions
then too, but the business has grown

413
00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.160
so much, Right, the money
didn't explode until that era. You know,

414
00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:56.559
it's probably hundreds and hundreds of thousands
and now it's hundreds of millions.

415
00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:03.160
Um. Another part I found super
interesting was that, um because from the

416
00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:07.400
outside, and you know, we
knows m cold he does like two movies

417
00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:08.519
and you're like, ah, you
know he sucks at movies or something.

418
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:11.799
He is just like the outside perception
because like, oh, why wouldn't he

419
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:14.759
keep doing them or why wouldn't he
become a lead role? And he just

420
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:15.759
straight up say he's like, yeah, I don't like movies, like I

421
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.640
didn't want to act like that sucked. That wasn't for me. I just

422
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:23.799
thought it's what I had to do. Was he in? Um? Oh

423
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:29.480
my god? What was that series
of movies that Stallone did? He was

424
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:30.960
in like one or two of them? Expendables Expendable? Yeah, I think

425
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:34.440
I think there was clips from that. There's a clips from Adam Sandler movie.

426
00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:38.839
I forgot which one, maybe one
of the grown Ups or who knows

427
00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:42.160
the grown Ups five or some shit. Um, and like little stuff like

428
00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:45.359
that. But I mean, and
some of it may be fun, some

429
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:48.480
of them might be getting a little
cash. But obviously he didn't enjoy it

430
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:55.160
as much as Dwayne Johnson enjoys.
Looking at himself. Uh yeah, what's

431
00:26:55.200 --> 00:27:00.400
the new movie? Dwayne Johnson just
got the biggest movie guarantee pay of all

432
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:04.000
time? Oh I don't even know. Yeah, fifty mill Who the fuck

433
00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:07.880
is doing that at this point?
He's not that successful. I don't know

434
00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:11.240
if Disney, but I think it's
I think it's like a new age Christmas

435
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.200
movie. Okay, I think it's
called Code Red or a red Coat or

436
00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:17.079
something. And he's like, I've
only seen an article on it, but

437
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:19.240
I assume it comes out this winner
if they're teasing it. But he,

438
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:22.599
uh, it looks like he's some
kind of like Santa Bodyguard or like a

439
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.359
Superman Santa. You know, he's
wearing a red suit, but he's with

440
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.640
Santa. But he's all jacked.
He looks so jacked in the interviews.

441
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.079
He's got the tightest shirt on.
I don't know how he could breathe of

442
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:36.519
this documentary. He's so tight.
And then I looked like it was painted

443
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:38.079
on. Yeah, and then you
see him and then you see him fifty

444
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:44.319
years younger in the ring and he's
all skinny fat. Sorry, rock dude,

445
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:45.920
I'm sorry. We're gonna meet one
day and I'll apologize to your face

446
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.160
all the shit I talked but only
tears face. Yeah, I mean,

447
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:52.920
oh mean it if he's nice to
me. But I've heard he's not even

448
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:56.480
that nice. That's the that's the
thing that justifies all my shit talk,

449
00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.279
because I've heard he's just not even
that nice either. I got into Bleacher

450
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:07.319
Report here and there's like an article
of the fifteen worst um, professional wrestling

451
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.160
injuries. Oh, I don't know
about all that. Yeah, I mean

452
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.559
there's the one mankind. Mankind got
his front teeth shoved up into his nose.

453
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:21.240
That's iconic. I watched that live. I believe it. Lot of

454
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:25.720
necks, yeah, I'm sure knees, that makes sense. Backs, neck

455
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:27.720
for sure, nick and back and
then scrapes and bruises. I'm sure every

456
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:33.480
day Vince mcman tore both quads.
Oh, I remember that in two thousand

457
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.000
and five Royal Rumbull. You remember
that. That's an ary. That's gotta

458
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.680
be a little juice action. Sina
and Batissa. Yeah, Brett Harts can

459
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.000
cuss. Cactus Jack has his ear
ripped off. Oh yeah, you can

460
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.880
see in the interviews. Yeah,
he's got no right ear right, that's

461
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:52.480
fucking wild. Yes. Uh.
Nineteen ninety four, Cactus Jack was in

462
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.720
a match against Vader. During the
match, Jack performed a hangman spot.

463
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:02.200
This spot consists of the head of
the wrestler being tied up in the top

464
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:07.160
two ropes. While trying to free
himself from the ropes, Jack slid his

465
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.720
head through the ropes, causing two
thirds of Vizier to be removed. Yeah,

466
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:17.000
WCW was known to use steel cables
as the ropes. It also appears

467
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:21.759
that in the video that the ropes
were tighter than usual that night. Yeah,

468
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.000
he like this should be documentaries on
him. I'm sure there are.

469
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.559
But he's like known for going crazy
bashing himself the fucking two by fourign ship.

470
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.319
He was always bleeding. That's the
one thing you didn't You didn't see

471
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.039
like the rock and then bleed so
much. I wonder if he just like

472
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:40.240
chose that, and I know they
would do like little cuts, they would

473
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.920
like cut themselves pre hands, so
then it would bleed with pressure. Yeah,

474
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.839
but some of that's got to be
real and hurt, you know,

475
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:49.440
like your nose, right, you
just hit your nose on the man's gonna

476
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:52.920
bleed, yeah, you know,
Or yeah, you get your head bashing

477
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.240
the ground or something like. Even
those ropes, even if they're soft and

478
00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.279
they fix that technology, like you're
slamming your body, it could easily just

479
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:03.839
very at least bruise the funk out
of you. They're flying out there,

480
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:06.920
I mean, they did some crazy
shit. They'd fly out of the ring

481
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.640
in the audience. Yes, wrestling
so weird. Who's the guy? Uh?

482
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:11.799
He was in the UFC for a
second. He beat up a fan

483
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.839
here, I think in the crowd, like for real, Funck was the

484
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:18.920
name. All tadded kind of emo. He made it. He made a

485
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.680
push in the UFC for a sec. But I think I think, oh,

486
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.759
oh um um, see him punk, see him punk. Then he

487
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.480
beat somebody up here in Sack.
That's the possibility. I think it was

488
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:32.519
Sacramento, and I think he's walking
from the upper deck down, you know,

489
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:36.039
talking shit as part of the script, and then someone pours a drink

490
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:38.160
on him or shoves them, and
then I think he turns around and socks

491
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:44.039
the guy for real. I mean, like that's what people don't understand about

492
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:47.759
like USC guys if you're testing them
in public or or WW guys like these

493
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:51.880
aren't your normal Like some of them
are great people. I'm not saying they're

494
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:55.079
all bad, but they're not like
you're. They're not programmed the same as

495
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:59.319
us, like they're they're they're like
extreme athletes. Yeah, you should probably

496
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.920
treat him aside. Yeah, like
I'm born even in the NBA, Like

497
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:07.079
they're just built different than the regular
humans. You're gonna talk kind of shit,

498
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:08.480
They're gonna come after you. You
know, there's a clip from I

499
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.440
might even I don't think it was
the All Star Game, but it was

500
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.799
maybe the playoffs or some fan ended
up in like the VIP hallway talking to

501
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.880
Russell Westbrook who's like this fat little
dude and Russell Westbrook out enough if it

502
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.279
stood up and came out, I'm
like, all right, Like now what

503
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.920
like, dude this you know this
dude's from like south central LA. Like

504
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:27.680
you're about to get your ass beat. Yeah, and they're humans too,

505
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.799
That's what's like. I get you
think it's a show, and it is,

506
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.880
but like people are crazy, they
kind of deserve to get punch in

507
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:41.359
the mouth. The real surprise to
me still after all these years, is

508
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.640
that people are so invested in stuff
is not not real but clearly not real,

509
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.039
like WB Yeah, yeah, I
think because of the storylines. So

510
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.720
it's just like to me, two
different styles of marketing. You invent a

511
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.680
storyline and then let your characters run
in the WWE and then in the NBA,

512
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.480
storylines are like kind of there and
then you bellisham, but like the

513
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:04.319
feelings the same. I was thinking
about that too watching this, Like I

514
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.240
was like, I do understand why
people watch this. I understand why people

515
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:13.279
watch it. It's it's not something
that like I've ever really concentrated much on,

516
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:15.960
Like I watched wrestling as a kid, you know, I watch The

517
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:22.039
Rock's Dad. Yeah. Um and
and I'll i'll kind of all that Eric

518
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:23.599
because my grandmother lived with this and
she was into it, so yeah,

519
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:29.759
um and and she used to she
used to go when it was in Stockton

520
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.880
all the time, like like she
lived in this senior community and they would

521
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.519
just take a bus and just you
know, that's fun. Yeah. Now,

522
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:39.519
I mean I don't know about here
actually, uh, because I feel

523
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:43.559
like that it did kind of die
off after Stone Cold and I'm obviously I

524
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:45.440
don't have kids, and I'm older, but it feels like the culture in

525
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:49.440
general is not as popular. You
know. I remember going through Target and

526
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.039
they'll be stone Cold and Rock dolls
and posters and shit everywhere. It's not

527
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:55.039
like it's not like I'd still be
yeah, probably, but there's more You're

528
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:58.559
more likely to see a Rock or
Stone Cold one than like some other guy

529
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:01.039
or whoever's the next guy. And
then yeah, yeah, Sena had a

530
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:05.640
good run and did some business stuff
and then even even our my buddy Adam

531
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:07.160
liked had a good run, like
he was really popular on the internet and

532
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:12.079
ship. You know, he's ex
strong man, got injured and beat up

533
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.200
and tried out. That's when I
actually met him. I met him at

534
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.799
the Arnold. He was just quote
unquote or like ending his strong man career

535
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:23.240
and they had WWE, which is
genius. They had WWE tryouts at Oh

536
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:25.680
I remember that, Yeah, yea, yeah, so I met Adam there,

537
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.119
dude, the world so small.
Then Adam Bronze Stowman. For those

538
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:34.319
wrestling fans out, there's his name, Adam. Then it turns out he

539
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:40.000
grew up next door neighbor to my
manager at Rebox Shout out Andrew, which

540
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:43.880
is totally disconnected. And Andrews like, oh yeah, dude, I remember

541
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.240
going on walks in my street and
seeing the six foot seven man throwing kegs

542
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.880
in front of his front yard in
North Carolina. They were just neighbors.

543
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:53.079
I was like, that's fucking weird. But even Adam, obviously he wasn't

544
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:55.079
on the level of the rock and
then. But he's popular. You know,

545
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:59.359
he's got a big Instagram. They
promote him on commercials. Who might

546
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:04.240
see him in like Dorito's commercial here
and there or something. But the celebrityhood

547
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:09.199
of the Rock and Stoneholder insane,
and like I was saying, people buying

548
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:15.360
into the storyline so much. I'd
be like seeing you know, Christian Bale

549
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:22.320
at a hotel bar and deciding that
he's either Bruce Wayne or Batman and interacting

550
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.719
with him that way. Yeah,
I mean, I don't think that's that

551
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:30.079
far fetched either, but probably people
do it. It's still weird. Yeah,

552
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:34.039
it's weird. It's weird, but
people probably do. Yeah. It

553
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:38.880
is a little bit more obviously connected
than those because that's all you know them

554
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:43.320
as. But even even old celebrities. Christian Bale is a good example,

555
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:47.119
not old celebrities, but like celebrities
that don't dive into social media. It's

556
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:50.760
I feel like easy to attach that, right, It's not like Christian you

557
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:53.239
know Christian Bale from his YouTube vlog. You don't know Christian Bale. You

558
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:55.880
know Batman? Yeah you know,
and so like, yeah, you don't

559
00:34:55.920 --> 00:35:01.000
really know like Stevie Williams, you
know, fucking stone Old. I picked

560
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:07.400
Christian Bale because I don't think anyone
would do this to Ben Affleck because he's

561
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.760
a fucking monster. He's huge.
Yeah, yeah, Christian Bale is tall,

562
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:14.599
yeah, just skinnier, yeah much
Yeah, yeah, Ben Ben.

563
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:16.360
I mean a lot of those guys
they look like fucking NFL players, and

564
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:21.559
Stone Cold had some good athletics.
Yeah, I don't know. Uh,

565
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.280
it is weird that it's so scripted
people buy in, But again, the

566
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:30.079
drama is eerily similar to what the
NBA and NFL try to build, right

567
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.840
Steph Curry versus Lebron James and they
build all this stuff up and oh did

568
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:37.920
you see Steph tweeted this and they
said that, And now with social media

569
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:43.239
they're even better at it. And
I mean it's old. This is an

570
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:49.599
old like almost as old as civilization
kind of thing. Yeah, where UMU

571
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:57.519
storylines are presented that appeal to some
people at one level and other people at

572
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:02.079
a different level. Yeah, like
fucking Shakespeare right that. Yeah, yeah,

573
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:08.119
yeah, that's I was surprised at
um because several years five years ago,

574
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:15.360
we went to um the Old Globe
in London and saw a play that

575
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.840
Shakespeare co wrote, and It's something
that I'd never heard of before. But

576
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:24.239
all the people that are the groundlings, people who are standing, the way

577
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:29.880
that they interact with the people on
the stage yeah, yeah, yeah,

578
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.719
and apparently it was always like that
Yeah yeah yeah, interactive like yeah,

579
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:37.000
like stand up comedy you expected or
something, and and actors played to those.

580
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:40.199
Yeah, they didn't necessarily play up. They played down because they could

581
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:44.400
get you know, interaction kind of
like crowd work. That is kind of

582
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:47.440
the genius I guess of the WW
is the crowd is a character. Yeah,

583
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:51.239
right, where the NBA, NFL
it's not. And so like yeah,

584
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:53.760
to buy in in fact, you
don't want any professional sport you don't

585
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:55.920
want yeah, yeah, they kind
of negate it. Yeah, yeah,

586
00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:00.719
it'd be like I bet you you
know, I don't know the other term,

587
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:06.239
but like per capita or per fan
of WW versus any other sport.

588
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:08.440
Like the amount of people wearing merch
and buying merch is probably a way higher

589
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:12.320
probably, you know what I mean. Like if you're a stone cold fan,

590
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.199
you're fucking in. Yeah, like
you got everything, like and they

591
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:17.159
showed it. They signs and I've
been to a couple of lot of you've

592
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:20.199
been to a couple of love,
Like, yeah, the amount of signs

593
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.719
you see the fans are crazy and
it probably is because of that crowd work

594
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:30.639
esque type vibe. And they play
into all that what it is to me

595
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:32.679
and what I enjoy about it all
is also like the sociology of it all.

596
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:36.679
And then they talk about it a
little bit here, but like like

597
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:38.039
the Stone Cold Sea and the Rock
do one thing, like oh yeah,

598
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:40.760
there's something there, you know,
like you can just feel that, Oh,

599
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:44.039
the crowd's either gonna love you or
hate you, it doesn't matter.

600
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.840
But there you you've got them.
You just have to like give them bait.

601
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:50.599
If they buy it, you're kind
of in. And maybe that's what

602
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.079
the we're missing now is like the
gimmicks aren't as strong, or maybe aren't

603
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:57.920
as unique, or maybe maybe you
can't repeat them, you know, maybe

604
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.079
they're maybe it is dead just because
we've done so many Now that's a good

605
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:05.199
possibility because even like you said,
like wrestling in this nature has been a

606
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:08.719
thing for closing in probably one hundred
years, you know, probably forty fifty

607
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:14.360
sixty you know where it started,
and obviously it's evolved. But yeah,

608
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:17.039
I do wonder how many arenas they
sell out or what they're The other one

609
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:23.440
is um uh Andy guitar player Andy. He made a big push in the

610
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:29.360
WWH. Yeah, I wonder the
guy from Every Time I Die. Yeah,

611
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:32.960
because they that league came out of
nowhere and made a big push WCW.

612
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.039
Was it WCW again, that's a
good question, or ECW one of

613
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.360
the older ones made a huge push
because I think they signed a contract with

614
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:44.480
TNT or Spike or something, and
I feel over the last ten years they

615
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:47.159
almost overtook the w W for a
second, or at least became an equal

616
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:52.840
because during the Attitude era and when
I watched, the other league was a

617
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:54.960
piece of shit. That's where you
went to retire, that's where you went

618
00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:00.119
to die. I think that I
didn't see in this as much may be

619
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:05.920
really even at all, is that
when you talk to Steve in person,

620
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:15.199
he talks about the history of of
professional wrestling and his career like he's talking

621
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:21.480
about fucking civil war or yeah they're
in it. Yeah, they talked about

622
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:22.920
it. I guess a little bit
in the beginning when his family said,

623
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:27.079
like, oh, Steve said he's
going to be a wrestler from like seventeen.

624
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:30.920
Yeah, you know, so at
least maybe they hinted at his interest

625
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:37.039
to study the you know, the
the actual art as an art, as

626
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:39.639
a history. That's what I love
about all this stuff is like the culture,

627
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:43.360
you know, like powerlifting, I
like all the old cats. Do

628
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:46.599
I watch him? Do I know
him? Obviously I got the privilege over

629
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:51.199
the years to meet a bunch of
them. But it's weird to me to

630
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:54.320
love powerlifting, and we see this
more and more. You love powerlifting more

631
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.800
the shit. The kids in our
gym love power listing more than I do,

632
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:00.199
and they don't know the history and
they don't care to know. But

633
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.840
I'm like that with everything, like
like hip hop music, I like clothing,

634
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.360
so I dive into like the history
and the tale. So because I

635
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:08.880
think you do have to know like
where we've been to know where we're going

636
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:14.000
or what's going on now. So
I think The Rock was obviously born into

637
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:15.320
it, so he probably has all
that history. I feel like, to

638
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:19.000
be good at anything, you have
to do that. Yeah. I feel

639
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:28.639
like if between say the Rock and
Stone Cold, the one to me most

640
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:32.719
likely to have retained all the details
of every fucking match his stone Cold.

641
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:37.239
Yeah. Maybe I have heard a
lot of wrestlers just talk like that.

642
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:39.639
They're like obsessive, you know,
like you kind of kind of like sports

643
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:44.360
games. You know. Oh,
I remember when I played San Francisco Giants

644
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:45.800
and eighty five. Yeah, I
threw like this, like I feel like

645
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:50.199
when you're a real student of the
game and your student of yourself. Yeah,

646
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.360
you just have weird memories like that, because that's how you get better.

647
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:54.800
You know, you've you've watched the
tapes. I'm sure wrestlers watch the

648
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:58.639
tapes like any other sports, you
know, because that's how you learn.

649
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:00.840
Oh, I did this wrong.
I landed weird here. I didn't give

650
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.960
a good enough the hell happened there? Yeah? I can't even tell,

651
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.960
because sometimes you can't your eyes are
not in the right spot, especially wrestling,

652
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:10.639
you know, you're getting flipped around
and yeah, I don't know.

653
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.920
It is an interesting thing. The
mystery to me is like why he hadn't

654
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:21.159
broken through before that one point,
because he was the same guy the Austin

655
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.519
three sixteen. Yeah, I mean
maybe the gimmick, right, a little

656
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:25.840
bit of the gimmick. It sounds. I don't know the exact timeline because

657
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:30.480
they didn't give like dates on this
thing, but being like stunning six nine

658
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.719
seven something like that. Yeah,
but being stunning Steve, the timeline of

659
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:37.760
Stunning Steve to turn into stone cold, to turn into the Austin three sixteen.

660
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.199
I don't know those gaps, yeah, because it might have been it

661
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:44.079
might have it might have been soon. It might have been a gimmick,

662
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:46.159
right my point, Like he might
have turned into Stone Cold and then it

663
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:52.199
caught fire. Yeah, I don't
know because I never watched Stunning Steve.

664
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:57.199
That's before my time for sure.
Yeah, when he he um the way

665
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:01.599
he told the story about that at
night, Yeah, in the documentary is

666
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:05.320
pretty much the way I heard it
directly from him. Yeah, too,

667
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:07.039
It is funny. It is so
funny. I didn't know it was against

668
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:10.039
Jake the Snake. I didn't really
know Jake the Snake. My dad would

669
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:15.159
like joke about him, but I
didn't know Like those talking about timelines like,

670
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:19.199
I didn't know those timelines overlap at
all. Oh yeah, yeah.

671
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.159
I thought Jake the Snake and he
was obviously on the end of his career

672
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:23.440
here in that time, but I
thought he was much older and he was

673
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:28.320
Stone Cold was young. But um, I didn't understand how guys like The

674
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:32.159
Undertaker went on for as long as
they did forever just a savage Yeah,

675
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:36.440
I'm sure Triple H still like does
Vince mcmonny type things and hops in the

676
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:37.239
ring here and there, like I
think it was even The Rock. I

677
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.400
mean The Rock was in WrestleMania like
within the last three years as like a

678
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:44.960
featured guest. What happened to Ronda
Rousie that was supposed to be the Oh,

679
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:46.519
I don't know. And Jacob Paul, Like they're pulling all the weird

680
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:52.320
strings. They signed Jake Paul,
they just signed. There's these two basketball

681
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:57.320
twins. They were I swear they're
out here for a second. They might

682
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.280
have been at Fresnow. Oh maybe
there was two that went viral on TikTok

683
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:04.280
or like built a big following on
TikTok and they were actually good at basketball.

684
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.559
I think they're at Fresno. Then
they transferred to a Universe in Miami.

685
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:09.119
I think they just graduated. But
I think that WWE signed them to

686
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:13.440
a contract, like a ten year
contract. Jesus. Yeah, and they've

687
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.159
they've like never wrestled, and they're
gonna like dabble and see what it is

688
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:19.039
or something. But yeah, getting
Jake Paul, I mean, it's smart

689
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:22.199
craps social media people, right,
anything you're gonna do. I've in the

690
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.679
in the past ten years, I've
been reached out to a bunch of from

691
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:28.800
reality TV shows, right, because
like, if they're gonna have random people

692
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:30.679
on there, might as well get
random people with a little bit of a

693
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:36.119
following. It's gonna be auto better
for your The Rocks show, what the

694
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:40.920
Cold the Gladiator type show? Whatever
the fucking Rocks Gladiator type show, Titan

695
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:45.800
Titan Games. The Titan Games they
always signed like cross fitters and lifters with

696
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.800
a little bit of a following.
Like it all makes sense, but um,

697
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.400
it doesn't seem to have paid off
for the WB so far. Something

698
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.840
I didn't read this is a side. But something I've been hearing about lately

699
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:06.880
is like, um, big auto
manufacturers doing basically car launches with but they

700
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.159
have like a social media influencer day. Yeah, and these are not even

701
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:15.119
necessarily people who are in that vertical
yeah space, you just need eyes,

702
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:19.519
I mean the beauty of cars though, right as everyone drives one. Yeah

703
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.840
right, that'd be the same thing
as like a restaurant or like there's certain

704
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:24.880
things. You don't have to be
a content creator in that space. You

705
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:29.320
just have eyes because everyone eats,
everyone likes cars, or everyone needs a

706
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.679
car whether they like them or not. Yeah, it makes sense. It

707
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:36.519
is like the cheapest form of marketing
from a business sense. Right, You're

708
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:43.679
gonna pay ten million dollars to get
a spot on primetime television plus another million

709
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:45.199
to shoot the commercial or I made
those numbers up, but you know what

710
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.960
I mean, and then who knows
what your return is? Or you pay

711
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:53.360
ten grand and get someone with a
million followers just come drive your car on

712
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:58.320
a track for fun and Volgin and
yeah, you know it's it's gonna be

713
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.599
a lot more entertaining, a lot
cheaper, a lot us up keep.

714
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:05.039
It does all make sense. And
I understand that the social media requirements are

715
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.159
pretty low too. It's like,
you know, a couple Instagram posts or

716
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:10.599
yeah, a lot of it's probably
just who you know. Yeah you know,

717
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:14.920
it's all who you know and your
engagement. And the lists should get

718
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:16.440
on yeah, one d percent because
there's so many. I was just talking

719
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:21.039
to the team yesterday about marketing and
stuff and how different the game is now

720
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:23.920
where more sponsorships. It was in
the very beginning sponsorships weren't paying because they

721
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:28.039
couldn't afford it, and they couldn't
get they couldn't track the ROI because codes

722
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:31.199
and stuff weren't as popular. Then
it became an era where there's you know,

723
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:36.239
there's when I had one hundred thousand
followers on Instagram, I was probably

724
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.039
in the point oh one top percent. You know, Kim Kardashian had like

725
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:44.840
three million, So like that ratio
is insane. I was on our Ass

726
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:50.880
No Fun and then player room there
yeah, and then now now one hundred

727
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:52.800
thousand on Instagram's a dime a dozen. Yeah, So why why would these

728
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:58.039
marketing companies start handing out six figure
checks when if you don't want to work

729
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:00.000
with me, I'll just go on
to the next person one one hundred thou

730
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.119
Yeah, you know, so all
the requirements for that's slightly getting lower.

731
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:05.599
Not that it's bad, it's not
good. It's just part of the evolution

732
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:09.920
of of marketing and what taking of
four. But yeah, if BMW can

733
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:14.760
launch a new M three and have
one hundred people there all with fifty thousand

734
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:16.480
followers for free, someone might do
it for free just for the content.

735
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:21.119
Yeah right now, now you're now
you're under five million. I don't know

736
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:22.400
if I did that math right,
but the five million eyes right, one

737
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:27.719
hundred times fifty thousand, it's probably
like five million. Just ad Dicks for

738
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.400
zero Yeah, I can't do it, little brain right now. But five

739
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:32.840
million is impressions, yeah for free, right, you know, to get

740
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.280
five million impressions on a YouTube video
or a TV commercial, you're paying millions.

741
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.960
Outside is Stone Cold? You have
a favorite character in this? I

742
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:44.719
don't know about in this, but
generally, actually I liked Stone Cold a

743
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:46.400
lot, but I was a rock
fan, oh ironically, yeah, growing

744
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:51.039
up. I love the battles there. I love like the Stone Cold Rock.

745
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:52.159
They teamed up for like, you
know, three months and then they

746
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.880
hate each other the rest of the
time. I just love the bickering they

747
00:46:54.960 --> 00:47:00.079
had in the show. Probably Stone
Cold, you know. I just other

748
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:04.360
than Stone called Yes, yeah it's
too hard, I like Stone called Mick

749
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.679
Foley. Yeah, Mick Foley's good. Undertaker's interviews were good even though the

750
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:12.480
Rock, despite me being a half
ironic hater, his interviews were good,

751
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:15.400
you know, and it felt it
felt my heart felt as heartfelt as he

752
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:19.159
could give it. M Yeah,
it felt genuine the Rock talking about him,

753
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:21.760
because even Stone I think we might
have asked him on their offer and

754
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:23.400
they always said he always kind of
said they had a good relationship. But

755
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:25.639
he never said like their besties.
And that's what it kind of felt like,

756
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:30.400
like the mutual respect and trust was
so high, yet they're not like

757
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:34.760
best friends a thing that that that
you really have to be paying attention to

758
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.679
get out of this. I thought
was that is how much of a business

759
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:42.719
head stone call is if you meet
him in person, you have a conversation

760
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:46.000
with him, you know this,
it's like, whatever is necessary to make

761
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:50.280
the business part work, he's willing
to do, even if it is not,

762
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:53.880
you know, something that he would
love or enjoy. I don't think

763
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:59.719
that he loves or enjoys social media
that much, but as part of the

764
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:04.559
game, and so he does it
and and really with kind of without complaint.

765
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:06.719
It seems like, Yeah, I
wonder if that's just part of growing

766
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:08.760
up and wrestling, like all the
hazing stuff, like because you really are

767
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:14.800
an entrepreneur yea on your own,
absolutely growing through the WWE. So I

768
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:19.119
think that's probably just like I'm sure
that's what bread the Rock success. And

769
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.840
and I guess, uh, through
the lens of what I just said,

770
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:29.000
looking at the way he talked about
about seeing the Rock you know, at

771
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:34.880
the beginning of his career and knowing
that he had something that's that's a business

772
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:38.039
instinct. Yeah, and entertainment,
Yeah, we go, well, this

773
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.639
guy's got something. This is a
horse movie, we can ride? Yeah,

774
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:44.719
yeah, yeah. And then it
turned out they got along well enough,

775
00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:47.480
like Vince mcmaan even camped in on
that, and so he like whether

776
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:50.920
or not this was somebody who was
going to be his best friend, it

777
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:55.679
was somebody that could be a partner
in business in a way, right,

778
00:48:55.880 --> 00:49:00.079
especially wrestling. Yeah, it's it
is kind of secretly genius because like there

779
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:04.159
can't be one guy in wrestling,
and maybe that's the difference between these two

780
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.360
and like a Seni or what's going
on now is you you need you know,

781
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:13.039
the Lex Luthord to the Superman like
otherwise wrestling doesn't work like who And

782
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:15.480
maybe that is kind of the issue
that's going on right now. They always

783
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:19.840
could find like one ish star,
but where's the counterpart to make it tie

784
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.000
together a long term And they were
just lucky er in that time probably too,

785
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:24.559
right. They had Triple H who
was huge, Big Show who's still

786
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:28.480
a huge undertaker, Cane, like, they had a bunch of the most

787
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:35.000
iconic names that were all physically and
some good on the microphone, and these

788
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:37.920
two were just at the top top. So it's the same with sports,

789
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.760
right if if it's just Lebron James
and everyone else sucks, that's kind of

790
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:44.719
like the Bill Russell thing argument from
my basketball. It's like Bill Russell was

791
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:46.280
amazing, but like who's around his
era, he's just shitting on everybody.

792
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:51.440
It doesn't build the Magic Johnson Larry
Bird tower, right, you know,

793
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:57.119
it doesn't build the Kobe Jordan although
they were passing ships career wise, but

794
00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:00.280
it doesn't build like that tower.
So yes, it's kind of gene of

795
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:02.400
him to know that to put his
shit on that next, next, next

796
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:07.480
level, he needs an equal.
Yeah, he said. He did say

797
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:13.679
that. He talked like who his
opponents were were the most Well, that

798
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:16.440
was the most important thing. Yeah, because like you can't perform if you're

799
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:19.960
if you don't, you're not feeling
it. And that's kind of what led

800
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.159
to like the first big disagreement,
right, even though brock Lessner was a

801
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:24.360
big name, but he didn't want
to find him. Yeah, yeah,

802
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:28.119
I don't know. Yeah, the
business is just so interesting and there's so

803
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.119
many like unspoken rules, and I'm
sure so many unspoken rules at this documentary

804
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:34.760
isn't even that accurate. There're shit
they probably couldn't even talk about or didn't

805
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.199
want to talk about. I'm sure
there's dirty business going on. Oh,

806
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:40.880
I'm sure. I was blown away
that I never heard the word kfebe and

807
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:45.840
the whole thing it's kabeu. Oh
you don't know. I don't know.

808
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:54.440
Okay. Kfebe is is essentially when
you're you're playing out a scenario and so

809
00:50:54.800 --> 00:51:00.920
you commit to that and you don't
ever back off of it. It's like

810
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:06.880
if if in the in the ring. Yeah, okay, it's like wrestling

811
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:10.360
related. It's related. I should
probably actually look up the real definition.

812
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:15.400
But like, okay, so if
you're you deal with someone and and you

813
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:20.519
know them and everything's cool, but
the characters that you play are at odds

814
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:23.320
with each other. They're at odds
all the time. Anyone can see,

815
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:29.079
Like any anyone can see nobody can
break kfebe. Yeah. Yeah, like

816
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.360
uh yeah yeah. Character acting or
whatever it's called up. Yeah, but

817
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:35.679
yeah, like totally yeah, like
like method acting, yeah, method acting,

818
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:37.199
except that you're it's one hundred percent
of the time. Yeah, it's

819
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:43.400
my boy, Jim Carrey. It's
probably why can't Jim. You ever watched

820
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:46.199
the documentary about Andy Kaufman. I
haven't seen it. I probably should.

821
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:49.519
It's got Jim Ross in it.
If we want to tie into wrestling,

822
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:53.239
because Andy Kaufman had a real it
goes beyond Andy Kaufman had a real life

823
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:59.639
grudge with Jim Ross. Jim Carrey
went in public and talk shit on Jim

824
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:04.519
Ross to his face. He like
continued the beef. Yeah, I came

825
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:07.880
that close to meeting any Kaufman.
I was in the same place as Any

826
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:12.159
Kaufman. Yeah, yeah, I
was in When I was seventeen, I

827
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:15.559
worked in a restaurant in uh in
the Harris Casino and Reno, and he

828
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:19.480
was in the middle of the night. Oh interesting, they're probably doing drugs.

829
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.039
And one of my friends got his
autograph and I was like, I'm

830
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.199
not gonna fuck with any coffin.
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. But

831
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:27.440
yeah, yeah, like method acting, that makes sense. Yeah, that

832
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:30.360
makes sense. I mean that's probably
Yeah, well, you just find ways

833
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:32.239
at the Rock and Stone Cold.
That's probably why they didn't couldn't become best

834
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:36.039
friends. Yeah, maybe they could
have been, But yeah, if you

835
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:38.519
can't get caught in a restaurant together
because you're supposed to be enemies tomorrow.

836
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:45.239
Well that was the that was the
thing about um oh my god, who

837
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:51.760
was supposed to to get Wayne King
of the Ring? And then and they

838
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:58.440
did the friends they broke cafebe on
Yeah you know in the show. Yeah,

839
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:00.159
that was just like a weird sprinkle
they put in there, Like I

840
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.599
wish they would have doven in a
little more. Obviously it's a side tangent

841
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:06.079
because it's not about Stone Cold,
But I think that's kind of like what

842
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.960
started to build Degeneration X, which
was a big piece of Latitude era.

843
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:15.199
Yeah, like the suck It in
the China porn, all that, all

844
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:19.119
that wraps up into that. That
was one of the first celebrity porns.

845
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:22.119
I think, Oh yeah, I
think I don't know. Yeah, it

846
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:27.599
was like the first sex day before
Pam and Tommy probably similar, right,

847
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:30.079
maybe so late nineties, Yeah,
it was probably similar era. Yeah,

848
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:35.440
it was like what's the name xpoc
xpoc in China? Yeah, weird,

849
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:37.000
it's really weird. Yeah, I
didn't know all those names too. Was

850
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:43.840
it Steve Nash not Steve Nash,
something Nash, Kevin Nash. Okay,

851
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:46.719
it was part of that. He
won the do you run the rumble with

852
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:50.519
Triple h Okay, he was one
of his best friends in real life.

853
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.880
That broke all that, Okay,
yeah, yeah, and then they made

854
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:59.679
Degeneration X, which was like I
guess gang in the WB whatever they look

855
00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:02.320
at but like four dudes. Yeah, yeah, were they sold a ship

856
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:06.519
ton of T shirts too, that
whole area because yeah, they did monetize

857
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:08.000
well, they got video games.
Video games were huge in that era.

858
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:14.000
I played a ship ton of w
W video games, merge hats. It's

859
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:17.079
funny. I haven't been shit Bry
since twenty sixteen, whenever scene was wrestling.

860
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:21.360
Yeah, I haven't been since seen
it. Yeah, maybe twenty fifteen.

861
00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:23.159
I was gonna go this last time. I have some buddies in it

862
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:25.719
still, but I don't know if
they're on tour like that. I just

863
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:28.679
don't think it's Yeah, I don't
think it's what it used to be.

864
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:35.360
Muh okay, let's wrap this one
up. Well, we've been talking about

865
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:45.119
a biography channel documentary on Stone Cole
Steve Auston that is now on YouTube and

866
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:47.960
I as of last night over the
course of like two days, and it

867
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:52.480
had over three hundred thousand views.
It's pretty good. For a YouTube.

868
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:59.079
I think that maybe this was on
the Biography channel maybe twenty twenty, twenty

869
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:04.400
twenty one something like that, and
and just Jes came out on on YouTube.

870
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:07.480
But uh yeah, so it's free, free all, Yeah, it's

871
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:10.480
free with a lot of commercials.
Yeah, good lord, there's a lot

872
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:14.639
of commercials that YouTube money. I
don't blame them. Fucking get your bag

873
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:16.639
WWD thing, Yeah I don't.
I don't blame him either. Um.

874
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:23.559
We typically rate these movies, um
on some scale that I just pull up

875
00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:28.199
out of my head. I'm gonna
go with crushed beer cans on this one.

876
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:34.880
Um. It's hard because this is
maybe one of the first ones that

877
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.079
I'm a fan of what we were
talking about. Yeah, like not I'm

878
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:38.760
a fan of golf, but I'm
not. I was, I was,

879
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:43.840
I'm a fan of golfing, I'm
not a fan of following golf. I

880
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:45.679
like sports, but I don't love
tennis. You know, some of the

881
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:51.039
stuff we've covered hasn't been like in
my alley where I'm I am one obviously

882
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:54.159
we know him, um, and
then meeting the person and being a fan,

883
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:58.239
and then being a fan after I
meet the person, Like that's a

884
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:01.880
rare lineup, so it's hard to
like judge because I was highly entertained.

885
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:05.679
Um, I might give it like
four, I'm might give it four out

886
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:08.559
of five crushed beer cans, I
was gonna say four as well. Yeah,

887
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:15.000
it's it's incredibly well produced. It's
very streamlined though, because there they

888
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:17.360
they left out a whole lot of
characters. Long for sure, sure,

889
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:21.480
Yeah, but we always complain about
ship being too long, Like if they

890
00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:24.000
made this three one hour series,
yeah, it probably suck. You know,

891
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:27.239
it's like a perfect amount of time. Yeah, you get the story.

892
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:29.719
It ends kind of abruptly, like
all of it is, Like you

893
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:35.119
said, it's scripted well, which
which is always gonna want you leaving more

894
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:38.719
rather than you being flooded. So
um yeah, overall, good shot,

895
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:43.119
well, good footage, some footage
that's really famous, some footage that's you've

896
00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:45.119
never seen before, you know,
so like some cool be roll in there,

897
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:47.840
a little bit of business talk.
Yeah, it was good. It

898
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:51.239
was good. I think even if
I wasn't a stone cold, I'd probably

899
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:52.840
still give it like a three and
a half four. Yeah, no,

900
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:57.519
I agree, And all of the
more recent stuff that was shot with him

901
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:00.039
is like that's the guy. Yeah, I met. I don't know where

902
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:02.880
he is now. I heard he
was in Reno for a bit because I

903
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:07.519
think he sold his Texas ranch.
If he is in Rino, I think

904
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:09.920
he is in Reno. Yeah,
I believe. I believe the last time

905
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:14.000
that I heard he wasn't tweet the
man he has going on right, some

906
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:17.519
Kawasakis. Yeah. Um. I
think he has a house or did have

907
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:22.280
a house in um In La Yeah, Marina del Rey, that's house.

908
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:27.639
I went to crazy, But I
don't think he's spending as much time there.

909
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:30.360
I don't blame him. He seems
like a Nevada man. Yeah,

910
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:32.599
and now he's got that. He
literally has a ranch there that's not not

911
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:37.400
in Texas, and um does a
lot of his own ship. Yeah,

912
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:38.599
hanging out. Yeah, I'm sure
he's still doing his podcast. I don't

913
00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:45.519
think his TV show is still going
on. Yeah, so like they're reformulating.

914
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:50.320
He can come back again in another
way. I think that's all that's

915
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:54.400
all under wwe. Oh really Yeah. Whereas his podcast is his pod yeah,

916
00:57:54.519 --> 00:58:00.719
on the side the kause he's been
podcasting as long as we have,

917
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:02.320
Yeah, a long time, and
he was early. He was early with

918
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:08.440
podcast one you know, when we
had him on the Power Cast the first

919
00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:15.119
time there, I had his number
because I was told that he wanted to

920
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:19.519
talk with technical issues with me.
So I'm driving down the street in my

921
00:58:19.559 --> 00:58:22.679
neighborhood and my phone rings and it's
like Stone Cold, Steve Boston. It's

922
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:24.840
like, fuck, I gotta pull
over. I can't. I can't drive

923
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:28.480
and talk to him. Yeah.
Yeah, because he would just recorded on

924
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:30.000
his own, you just recorded out
of his home, out of a little

925
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:34.519
kit, and then send it off
to get produced. Yeah. And uh,

926
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:37.800
you know, I said I didn't
have a whole lot to offer really

927
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:42.639
because he had kind of for someone
who didn't have any anyone engineering their show,

928
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:45.079
he had kind of the best setup
that he could have. Yeah,

929
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:46.800
quick, easy gist and travel because
he would travel a lot. Yeah,

930
00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:51.599
Yeah, for sure. Ye shout
out Stone Cold. Shout out y'all for

931
00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:54.559
listening free documentary on YouTube, probably
with the watch a lot better than some

932
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:58.360
of the page shot on Netflix and
stuff going around for sure. Um,

933
00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:01.079
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