July 16, 2025

The keys to fitness for executives | Guest: Justin Wright

The keys to fitness for executives | Guest: Justin Wright

Justin Wright is a sales executive who found himself in a position that’s all too common for executives: overweight and out of shape. Work stress, the demands of travel and entertaining, inconsistent diet, family responsibilities, etc., had taken control. He felt that he had to take it back. So, he lost 60 pounds, got jacked, and along the way, he leveraged his background in science into a system that worked for him—and would work for other executives. Justin shares some insights into the most valuable lessons he has learned.

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Okay, today's show, I wanted to bring on somebody that

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I've known for a very very long time. It's been

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over twenty years. I want to say it's upen in

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about twenty two years.

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Yeah, twenty two, twenty three, something like that.

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Yeah, so my twenty twenty I mean two thousand and

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three ishousand, when t mag was really popular. He Mag. Yes,

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this is one of one of my team mag and

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then Ta Mag sort of spin off friends. I had

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Tony genllcore on years ago, maybe a year and a

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half ago.

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He was a nice guy.

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Yeah, he used a lot of a lot of fun

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to talk to. In the six months, I might go

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through everybody that I knew, and it came up with him.

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There's some good interviews there.

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There are definitely some good interviews there. Uh, I don't

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think that. I mean there was a core group of

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people there, uh in a tamag and then the spin

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off Rugged, which really sounds like a it sounds like

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a gamer. I'm sorry, it just does.

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Not.

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I think it did then too, but that's another thing altogether.

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But you had Eric Cressy and and uh, you know

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Marion was there, Yeah, Joel Marion do Yeah, a bunch

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of people that have that that were tracked toward doing

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something in the fitness space, but a lot of people

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that weren't. They were just like kind of fitness interested

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folks who were not necessarily trying to make make make

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a living and make a or to make any kind

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of impact in the in the fitness world. And I

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certainly that's not what I was intending do at the time.

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And then it sort of happened, you know, in the

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years after that, and now you are are doing that,

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although this is this is obviously not your main career,

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but tell us about your man, can introduce yourself, tell

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us about your career, and then so yeah.

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Yeah, my name is Justin Right. That was one of

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the non fitness influencers back in that day. But I

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was an athlete. I was a high school baseball captain,

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I played, I did mma, I've done strong man, So

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I was always interested in sports. I played sports forever,

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and so just natural transition to lifting. And then found

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the magazine because it was actual a physical magazine you

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could buy in the grocery store at that time. So

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that's how I got on the forums when I was

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in college. And so my career has all been around science.

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I'm a scientist by training, I'm a molecular biologist, and

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then I ended up getting my MBA at Boston University.

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And during this time, you know, I've been I've been

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training people and helping people off and on the whole

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time I've known you. And now it's with you get

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to the point where sometimes in life you're like, I

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just need to do something different, And I'm getting to

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that point in my life where like, Okay, it's time

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to make this a real thing, you know, and transition.

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So I'm in the middle of transitioning. I'm still traveling

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sales scientists deal with MD's PhDs all over the US

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like this this week, I'm going to a major hospital

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in Kansas City. Two weeks ago, i was at Mayo Clinic. Yeah. Right,

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So it's it's that's my career. But now it's training

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those people in a different way and not in science.

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It's how to optimize them with fitness and nutrition. So

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it's a different world in that regard. The training is

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pretty similar to what most people would do, but it

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the goals are different. The goals aren't necessarily looking like

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you were like you train, it's more mental status and

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like an aura, a leadership aura, like you see a

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fit leader walk into the room, like that guy takes

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care of himself. He has systems in place to keep

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his health up. Because if he can keep his health up,

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he has no two pm crash in the afternoon. He

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can go to the client dinners and still last all

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night long and be fit and be ready to tackle

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the day. So it's a different world that they live in.

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Their stress levels are up here all the time and

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ours are usually you know, down here, and of course

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everybody gets stressed and it fluctuates, but they're they're on

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their fight or flight mechanism is fight all the time,

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and so their stress levels need to be managed in

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a different way. So it's a different way to think

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about it in a holistic perspective than it is from

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like just training people at a gym.

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It's a different wrinkle on the work worklife balance ecusion.

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I think, yeah, because a lot of us think about

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you know, like work time versus family time or whatever.

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But but there's also that those is also the me

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time part of it, and that and fitness is kind

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of where that fits. And yeah, there's a.

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Yeah, a lot of them don't have time, like I

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don't have time, like, yeah, you do, and the crazy

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that they become the best clients, the ones will say

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I don't have time because they start working out and

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it's just like, dude, you need three maybe four days

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a week under an hour. You don't need you don't

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need hours and hours in the gym. But then those

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hour long sessions where you're just thinking become thirty minute

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sessions because you can think clearer and harder because you're

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physically fit, So it frees up time. It's it's it's counterintuitive,

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I know, but like having that mental clarity and that

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mental sharpness all day long means those tasks you have

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all day long that would take longer takes shorter times.

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You can make decisions better, you can make decisions faster,

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you can do more with less when you're physically fit,

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just because your mind is sharp. It's fascinating.

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Yeah, there's a you know a thing about that you

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kind of need that sort of dilatory time that you're

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that you're not thinking about anything to recover your brain

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enough to think about about real things. But if you're not,

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if that's not active time, then it just sort of

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expands to suck up all of your time. And that's

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when people say they don't have enough time. A lot

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of it is that that they're spending so much time

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trying to recover their mind and be able to you know,

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think clearly and and and figure out, you know, how

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to act or whatever on on on the thing that's

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in front of them, and that just sucks up all

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the all the air in the room instead of in

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sitting me able to actually like go to the gym

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or go run or do any of the thing is

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that people do that you know, move their physical body

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around and provide that kind of environmental feedback I.

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Think, you know, speaking of just like brain recovery, like

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they don't get enough sleep. Yeah, right, like they don't

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you talk to executives like I talked to a high

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level Washing Washing University Saint Louis researcher. You know, it

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was like, yeah, I slept for three hours last night,

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and I'm like, what are you doing?

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Man?

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Like your brain is not recovering, Like it's not let

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alone your muscles. It's like you're not You're not even

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getting into rem sleep to where your brain can recover.

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And just one of those you have to focus on it.

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You have to turn off the screen, like you can

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look at a TV. TV is totally fine to watch

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at night, but like staring at at a computer, like

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we're sitting in a computer right now, are at your

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phone before bed, it delays the melatonin release, and so

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you don't get into deep sleep as fast as you

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would and so like you have to step back from

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being an executive for like an hour before bed, have

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a routine door, you read a book, and you physically settle.

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No alcohol either, like we all love alcohol. Alcohol is delicious, right, yeah,

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but that also prevents you from having the militonin release

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and getting into sleep three, which is physical recovery. The

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first such state is deep sleep and then and then

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ram asleep four. So it's like you can get to sleep,

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you can sleep all night if you have alcohol, but

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you're not recovering. You wake up groggy, you're emotionally tired.

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So you just just like different ways to approach it. Like, dude,

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you're not twenty five anymore. Man, Like you know you

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can just go out and recover. It just doesn't work

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like that. You have to focus on it. And if

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you can recover smarter, you just perform better. And so

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that's that's where like executives, you know, it's training them

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to think holistically and not just I'm going to go exercise,

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like have a plan for your exercise, have a system

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built in, and so you work with somebody like me,

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it's like, here's your system. And then I don't like

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giving them like really tight guardrails for everything, Like if

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you want to switch out an exercise, I don't care.

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That's switch out and excess something you like to do.

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Your nutrition, there's a couple of rules that go into it,

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but it's really like I want you to adhere to

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the plan, which means you have to enjoy the food

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to eat right, so you eat more of certain things

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to keep your fuller longer, but you still can go

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have the client dinners and not be the guy ordering

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a salad with a side salad, you know. Yeah, so

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you have to be able to understand that. And so

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it's just it's a different way of looking at just

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your fitness nutrition plan as from a whole estate perspective.

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Yeah, And I think that because the bodybuilding world is

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just sort of this source or has been historically the

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source of so much of that information, Like how to

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how to be fit, how to look good, all that

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stuff that people get locked in on, the on the

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fringe part. Oh yes, you know, the one percent part.

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And because it's i mean, it's easy to lock in

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on that stuff, because it's it's very regimented, and a

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lot of people need like a lot of structure, and

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they just gravitate towards that. And of course there's the

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whole like a born again fitness per person just like

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taking like people yeah uh not no, no offense to

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anybody who has found religion, but people who find religion

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later in life find it so hard and and that

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can be very true of fitness. And that's that's kind

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of any age. I mean we you know, we see

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it here among members in the gym too. Like you

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you know, someone comes in new and they just want

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to do all the things and they want to do

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it all exactly right or whatever or not yep, and

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not thinking about what how much variation still produces good results?

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Oh yeah, and you see, like man, there's so many

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like they call them science based lifters now and.

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They know some of them personally.

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Yes, they focus on like the most minor tweaks to

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get that extra one percent out and those are headline grabbing.

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It's really it's fascinating to read the stuff. Yeah, but

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when you think about this pyramid of success for muscle gain,

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weight loss, whatever it is that your goal is, the

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very bottom is just being consistent, Like their base layer

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is consistency, right. You don't have to get it ninety

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nine point nine percent right all the time. You have

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to just show up and do stuff like I'm sure

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I'm doing standing biceps curls when I know basing curls

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and preach curls are better for my biceps growth. But

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I'm like, you know what, I don't care. You know,

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it's like, just go do the exercise. You don't need

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to do everything all the time. You need to just

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show up and be consistent about it.

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Doing anything is better than doing nothing right, and you

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might be the most optimal exercise or the most optimal

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time of day to to exercise, or any of those things.

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People worry about food. And like the one that came

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up was antabolic window. Remember that thing. Yes, Yeah, I'm like, no, man,

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just unless you train fasted and you're lifting first thing

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in the morning, there's no such thing as antabolic window.

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And so I told my executive clients, like, if you

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have lunch at noon or one, and you're gonna eat

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dinner at seven, work out somewhere in between there, right,

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And because you're loosing threshold still is gonna stay high.

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You're still digesting protein. It's not going to kill you.

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And muscle protein synthesis is still high twenty four hours

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later after a workout, so you're still using all the protein.

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You don't need to worry about it, like within forty

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five minutes. So for the average person with average ees,

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that just like, go work out and eat when you can, Yeah,

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and you're fine. And that removes a lot of the

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stress from the situation because when you are as stressed

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as they are like all the time up here, then

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you like, I don't want to add to that. I

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want to take away from that, and I want to

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make use calm down a little bit so you can

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just focus on what's right in front of you. And

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I know, I don't know how you guys feel about Huberman.

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I have opinions, but even myself, I tell you which

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way I'm leaving here. But he does have some interesting

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like psychological tricks to do to help calming yourself down

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and that I think those are useful, but like when

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it comes to reading literature, yeah, that's great.

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So no, I'm yeah, I somebody that I know very

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well in the Finnish industry who's a very smart PhD

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level guy, uh is doing a podcast under Heubreman's uh work,

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yeah right now, and and he is very good, and

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I know he is very very very evidence based, and

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not in the cliche way but in the actually reading

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the evidence and and and actually doing work, yeah, putting

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the work in and not you know, and not trying

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to tab himself over from some other scientific discipline and

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and pretend like it's the same thing the way Heureman does.

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And I mean for that guy is probably gonna launch him,

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which is fantastic because yeah, he's people follow him, and

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there's a couple of them out there. They're just like, No,

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I'd rather go listen to like Alan Aragorn or Brett

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Contreras is a good one, or the British Guide excuse me,

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not British Australian h Lane Lane Norton.

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Oh he's he's an American. He was married to an Australia.

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Oh okay, sorry, I thought he was yeah.

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Yeah, so so we're getting into the uh we're rolling

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back a little bit in time here. So when you

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and I were on on the teenations forums, Alan Aragun

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and and Lane were on the bodybuilding dot Com forums

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when I was there too, but I didn't really participate there.

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I mean, there's only so many forums that you can

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like fall into. And then there was another group that

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was on a forum called want to Be Big. There

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was another another another supplement company, and so I still

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know a few people from there. And then I got

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to know some people who were who were probably part

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of UH or we're definitely part of bodybuilding dot Com.

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And then I still obviously know the Tamag folks, but

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it was Alan Ragun and Lane Norton who essentially came

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up with if it it's your.

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Macros, Yes, that's exactly right.

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From from from then and like you, you and I

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probably interacted with Berardi, who was very much about like

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like uh macro combining, like just not using fat and

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carbs together.

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way to look at food because you can't really do that.

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It was a real strange way to look at food.

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But yeah, no, that's if I regret anything about that time.

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I think I would like to have been more active

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on bodybuilding dot com and watched that all develop I

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just I mean, I know Lane, and actually I I

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produced Lane's last podcast.

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I think he's good. He posts good information and he

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reviews information. Record Tract is the same way. Mental Handselman

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is another one that's really good, even though I'm like,

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you don't really look like you work out that much,

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but you know whatever, it's fine, and it's he's a

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very very handsome man, and so I think he was

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a model. I'm pretty sure it was a model. So

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his his Instagram videos are literally, you know, the Vogue

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cover in the face and talking and so I'm like, okay,

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you're an attractive guy. I get it, Like can you

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zoom out a little bit? And then he'd worked out

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with He interviewed Jim Wendler recently. Oh really, Yeah, we're

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talking like maybe two months ago, and he's in like

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a tank top in dress pants and dresses and a gentleman.

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I'm like, oh my god, what are you doing. So yeah,

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I'm like, okay, I like your content and the way

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you break down papers and stuff and you.

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Do good, But like, come on, I know I haven't

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talked to Windler in a long time, but I do

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know Windler, and I would love to have heard what

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he had to say that after it happened.

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Oh my god, Yeah, shoot him at text and find out.

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Let me yeah, let me interested.

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Wendler is he can be very unfiltered.

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Is that like the title of his podcast? It may

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be it's something like yeah, but anyway, yeah, it's just

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made me laugh and so yeah, it's just like okay,

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But there's there's some really good ones out there, and

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I like following them because they can break things down

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well and like little digestible bits for the masses, and

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that's really what people need instead of you know, people

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ask me about supplements all the time. I'm like, dude,

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that's the like the top of that success period, made

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that very tippy top of the success. You need to

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show up, right and the first place you neither show

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up is the kitchen and not the gin. It's the kitchen.

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And can you do that for two months and then

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you'll see, you know, then you start to start throwing

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in supplements and you know, to get the ball rolling.

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But I mean habits take sixty six days to form.

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That's two months. You got two months to form a

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new habit. And you just you can't just remove a

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bad habit. You have every place it with a good

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habit because it still fits your psychological mold of doing something.

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So take a bad habit out, switch it to a

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good habit. It's like switching from a shitty food to

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a broccoli and make it a habit and it'll just

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become natural over time. So I don't know. I think

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it's just funny how people like tell me about supplements.

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I'm like, no, tell me about how you're eating, Like,

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did you have your cracking any food at all?

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Yeah?

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No, would you have for lunch penn station parties? Like okay,

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let's start there.

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So yeah, uh, speaking of developing a new habit, I

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I'm on a tour of of food tracking apps at

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the moment. I I'm not. I don't like any of

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them when it comes right down to it. They all

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have some just major flaws. And like one of the

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major flaws is their databases. And you think that my

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fitness Pal is something that you know has been around forever,

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I think under Armor owns it now. Yeah, they have

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for they have for well, they at least they did

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for a while. Maybe it's changed again, but they're supposed

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to have the biggest database, and it still sucks. Like

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if you put in, you know, grilled chicken, what you

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get is Trader Joe's grilled chicken, which is like if

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your care, if you hear about sodium or whatever, it's

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going to give you a sodium number that is super

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high compared to what you just cooked it home, unless

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you just bathe everything in fucking salt, you know what

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I mean.

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The one thing, the one that I actually enjoy is

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chronometer or chronometer or I don't know that that's a

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good one.

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I had stupid simple macros recommended to me this week.

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I'm trying to take a look at it. So I've

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been I've been using this my net diary, which is

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not terrible but not great either.

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So if I put in chicken breast here, breast spell right, sticken,

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breast skin and remove before cooking is the first thing

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comes up. Yeah, So and then you can create like

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let's say you have a supplement plan and you can

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you take more supplements in the morning, and I think

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think like a recipe something like that. You can create

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custom things in here and say I'm eating my custom

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food and automatically know the macros and everything.

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Oh.

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I like this one. The only the only reason I'm

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not using it in my coaching is because it's only

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a personal there's no coaching back end. So I like,

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if I tell somebody to use it, I can't see

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what they're doing without them like screenshotting it to me

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or something, which is you don't want to do that, right.

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So the app I use for coaching is called Cahunas

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and it's a newer one. But they have a really

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good database too. But that's a coaching app and so

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you can do nutrition, fitness, supplements, lifestyle. So it's again

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going back to the executives holistic and how it approaches it.

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So I like that. But chronometer and chronometer however you

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want to pronounce it. I think that's a really good one.

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I got my wife to use it, and I got

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a bunch of other people to use it because you know,

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I think when it comes to progress and stuff like this,

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people have no idea what they do or don't eat.

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This is correct, right, They have no clue. And one

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of my clients is like, he wants to get to

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about one is at two of five right now, I'm like, okay,

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how much protein are you eating? I don't know, so

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I start tracking. I'm like, dude, you eat like seventy

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grams approaching to day, Like you need to cripple that,

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like let's get you way higher and so, but tracking

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it shows you that and so you can see where

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you're like, okay, I need to improve and it's it's

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a game changer for people wanting to make progress and

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their fitness and nutrition plants.

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Yeah. Yeah. When I was just say back to habits,

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my fitness pow has a has a thing now it's

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like if you want to start a new habit, like

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you click this thing and then you and then it's

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supposed to track how often you do whatever thing is

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that it is a habit. What I thought was interesting,

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maybe not entirely necessary, Like I probably build a separate

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app for that, but that's just me because I would

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want to sell it for more. But you know, that's

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that's just the marketing mindset.

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I do have. Like a like in Cahunasap I use

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for coaching, it says daily habits, which is like like

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I can assign it to people and it's like walking sunshine. Yeah,

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stuff like that, which is all just really important. And

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I might I mean, dude on my YouTube channel, on

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my instant my socials, like you talk about walking and

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if you can't get ten thousand steps in, there's a

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different way to do it and see the same benefits

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you stuff like that where it's like gifts your daily

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habits and don't sit it at a desk all day,

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stand up and do some squats, you know something, get

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your back out of this hunched over position. And so

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it's like those are the daily habits I put in there,

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and I don't know, it seems to work for me.

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The ten thousand steps thing, I mean, we all know

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that it's arbitrary now and it's the real number for

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change seems to be about eight thousand.

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It's like seven to eight something like that.

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Yeah, something like that, but more always seems like better.

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I don't know, personally. I haven't only had one day

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in the last two months that I had less than

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ten thousand, and that was the day that I was

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not feeling well.

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The minimum that you should do every day is twenty

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five hundred twenty five hundred, and every thousand steps over

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twenty five hundred and removed. Like lowers, you're all caused

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mortality rate by twelve percent for a short period of time.

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So that's not that's not insignificant.

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No, right, definitely not.

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So that's a that's a big deal. And so the change,

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the ten thousand step change that you can do if

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you if you can't do the ten thousand steps, is

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like a fifteen minute walk and it's it's like an

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interval walk though it's not just go walk. It's walk

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like you're a speed walker. Maybe not like Olympic level

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where they look silly, but like walk fast where you're

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gonna be a little bit out of breath for three minutes,

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walk slow for three minutes, repeat that three or four times.

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You get virtually the same benefits that you would get

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at ten thousand steps. That was a Japanese study'd done

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in like two thousand and eight something like that, and

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so just that can that's like, Okay, I just had

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lunch and I'm gonna go walk for fifteen minutes and

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do that, and so you get the ten thousand steps

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plus the other that comes from walking after food. It's

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two benefits. It slows down digestion, so you have less

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of a blood sugar spike, which is fantastic. And then

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the Italians called la passage viata and that's just stroll

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after dinner. And there was a study done with an

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Italian group and it was in America, So like a

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bunch of Italians loved in this neighborhood and then Americans

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loved next to them. They studied them. The Italians had

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like seems like fifteen heart disease less just from the walk.

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Like that was tied directly just to walking after meals.

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So like get your walk in man, like you eat

469
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:47.960
your lunch fast and get the heck out the door

470
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:51.279
and go walk for fifteen minutes and do it like

471
00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:54.319
interval style, and you get a ton of benefits, not

472
00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:56.839
just from the ten thousand step thing, but from lower

473
00:26:56.839 --> 00:26:59.039
blood sugar and all the other stuff that goes along

474
00:26:59.039 --> 00:26:59.319
with it.

475
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:02.640
Yeah, it sounds like, sounds like probably the blood sugar

476
00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:06.960
part of it is probably the most salient of the things. Yeah,

477
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:11.000
I don't I don't know if you're aware of Stan efforting,

478
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:15.960
but yes, yeah, somebody else is also in my phone.

479
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:22.240
Have worked with stand pretty closely for a while back

480
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:26.640
when he was actually here in this building, and his

481
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:29.319
thing in the last few years, probably eight years, has

482
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:32.759
been like the ten minute walk after you after you eat,

483
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:36.079
Like fifteen minutes is probably better, but like getting people

484
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:38.799
to do any kind of movement after they eat is

485
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.240
kind of a big deal. And you think, I feel

486
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.119
like that's kind of something that has gotten lost in

487
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:46.400
culture because I think that that is something that used

488
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:51.640
to happen. People used to used to take a digestive walk, yep,

489
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:54.480
and it just kind of got lost some of what

490
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:58.319
caught up in television and other concerns. You know.

491
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.240
It's just it feels good too, Like you eat a

492
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:04.720
heavy meal and you're like, I'm gonna I don't want

493
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:07.359
to sit here and just let it sit. I want

494
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.039
to walk it off, right, And so just it gets

495
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:14.119
things moving and it just made you feel better. And

496
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:16.599
I don't know, to me and not a lot, not

497
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:19.240
just to talk about the physical benefits, but the mental

498
00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:22.559
benefits too, just to slow walk of the dopamine release

499
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:28.359
and cleansing your brain of leftover bit amyloids. Essentially. Yeah,

500
00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:34.440
So as is a science scientist, nerded me talking, Well.

501
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:35.720
That's a good reason to talk to you. I know

502
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:39.240
that you're a science let's let's take a step back.

503
00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:42.160
I know that you had a pretty significant weight loss

504
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:46.680
transformation situation. You are more jack than I've ever seen

505
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:50.240
you in twenty plus years that i've known you, like

506
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:53.960
by far. I mean, you used to be in good

507
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:56.960
shape and and you know, I knew you were doing

508
00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:58.720
martial arts and stuff like that back in the day,

509
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:03.039
and and you were in good shape. But this is

510
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:04.440
totally different, different.

511
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:09.599
Yeah, I so, I guess ten years ago, ten years ago,

512
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:12.680
eleven years ago, my son was born. Ten years ago,

513
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.680
we moved back to Colorado, and I was working full time,

514
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.160
you know, wife, kid. I also owned a liquor store

515
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:22.359
on the side, working full time. And when you're in

516
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:24.799
that world, I was working one hundred hour weeks. I

517
00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:27.839
was just letting myself go. And then eventually I moved up.

518
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.880
That store closed and I moved up, and I was

519
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.839
like a commercial director, country manager, just traveling all the time,

520
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:38.799
and you know, drinking a lot. And because that's what

521
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:44.119
you do as an executive director, right, you entertain and

522
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.640
you have to show your face. And so I got

523
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:50.319
up to sixty five, and I'm five, ten to sixty five,

524
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:54.519
I was rotund. I looked like I tried to find

525
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:58.119
pictures of myself to see my transformation. I couldn't find

526
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:01.759
any because I was just like embarrassed to the camera. Yes,

527
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:03.319
or I would be on the very back and so

528
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:04.720
you can only see my face and it was a

529
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:09.759
very moonface. And so my wife had to like search

530
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:14.519
pictures and she found like four and it was it

531
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:20.000
was shocking. So I I created like now that train executives, like,

532
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:24.119
I know what they go through. So I lost sixty pounds,

533
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:27.799
like it, down to two oh five. And first time

534
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:30.960
ever since I was a single digit age, I saw

535
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.119
abs and I was just like, holy shit, they exists.

536
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:39.599
And yeah, but I was working out a ton, and

537
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:43.160
just that tracking the food made me realize like what

538
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:45.559
I mean, and I was we talked about fast food

539
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:47.799
before they started. I was eating Choco Bell and Wendy's

540
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.400
because they were right next to my house all the time,

541
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:52.720
and so it was just very easy. So no, I'm

542
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:57.160
going to be diligent and take this very seriously. So

543
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.720
over the course of ten twelve months, I lost sixty

544
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:03.640
pound and now I'm back up to two twenty intentionally,

545
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:08.599
but yeah, I'm I feel good. It's weird. I'm in

546
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:12.680
my mid forties, like I feel physically amazing. It's it's

547
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:15.359
that the transformation that you get from the weight loss.

548
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:19.839
The first twenty pounds people noticed, right, and that was

549
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:22.400
it's not what I was going for, but it was like, wow,

550
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.519
it's working. And then at that time I was like

551
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:28.559
I need to do more, right, So I was like,

552
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:31.680
I need to exercise and drink class and them. So

553
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:34.119
I started doing more and it just started kept coming off.

554
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.640
But then then I had like disaster strike twice. In

555
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.039
the middle of that. I was trying to work out, Man,

556
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:43.640
my ab hurts, this is bugging me, and it was

557
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.720
in a weird spot and I couldn't figure it out.

558
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:48.960
So I had an ultrasound done. They were like, you

559
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:50.759
might have a hernia. And then I had a cask

560
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:54.200
and done, like you got a big as heernia. It

561
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:57.200
was two centinarymes by six animeters, So you know that's

562
00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:59.000
a that's a big hernia, right.

563
00:31:58.960 --> 00:31:59.759
It's a big hernia.

564
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:02.920
I didn't know I didn't have hernia pain because where

565
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:05.279
they fixed the hernia was not where my pain was.

566
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:08.880
And so I was like, okay.

567
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.359
She was referring from a difference.

568
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:14.559
No, no, so what happened was that was December twenty ninth

569
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:18.799
of twenty twenty three. I got that fixed. And then

570
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.920
three months later I'm like, guys, I'm having pain in

571
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:26.000
the same spot. And they were like, oh, you shouldn't

572
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:27.759
be having pain intentional. I'm like, well, I know that,

573
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.240
That's why I'm here talking to you. And so I

574
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:33.920
made him do another cat scan. And so here in Colorado,

575
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:36.319
the UC Health System Universe color hus System, they have

576
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:41.039
an amazing app and so the notes from the radiologist

577
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:43.640
or the doctor whoever reads reads the stuff and uploads it.

578
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:46.359
You get a ping on your phone. So I'm I'm

579
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:51.359
shopping at outlet malls two hours from my house, ping

580
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:53.039
on my phone and I look at it says you

581
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:56.880
have a permanently enlarged appendix which is causing the issue.

582
00:32:56.880 --> 00:33:00.200
And that's right where the pain was. Oh right, And

583
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.640
so I was like, how did you not see that

584
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:07.519
in the first ultrasound and cat scan? Right, So five

585
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:10.640
months to the day, I had an appendix removed. And

586
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:13.720
this is the middle of weight loss and so so

587
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:17.160
the weirdest thing is I weighed myself. I was I

588
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:20.599
was at two five ish when right before that appendectomy.

589
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:25.400
But I weighed myself that morning. I gained fourteen pounds

590
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:27.680
from the surgery in one day or just from the

591
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.160
floating and all that, and so my belly was all

592
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:33.759
sticking out, like this is so uncomfortable. It went down after,

593
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:36.119
you know, a couple of weeks, just naturally, but it

594
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:38.279
was so weird to see, like how much you gained

595
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:40.039
from a surgery. So yeah, in the middle of all

596
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:44.440
the way, lass had two very invasive surgeries. And but

597
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.119
I feel great now and so it's still just like

598
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:53.039
it was just weird, and so, yeah, not comfortable. I

599
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:54.200
don't worry odds.

600
00:33:56.680 --> 00:34:02.640
What are the odds? Like like appendix in your how

601
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:04.759
long ago? What you were you over forty already?

602
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.559
Yeah, yeah, I was forty It was just last year,

603
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:10.360
so I was about to turn forty three, so I

604
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:11.039
was forty two.

605
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:17.760
Yeah yeah, because yeah, yeah, I mean appendix tends to

606
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:22.480
fall like among among the younger set. It's not impossible.

607
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:24.440
You can do it, I mean at any point, but

608
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:26.320
just statistically it's not that. Yeah.

609
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:28.199
No, And I have a buddy that lives a couple

610
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:29.880
of miles away and he had the same thing right

611
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:32.159
around this age, but his was a you have to

612
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.000
get surgery right now. Mine was chronically enlarged, so I

613
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.519
didn't have to like rush to the to the eerd

614
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:39.840
At surgery. They're like, we're going to schedule it out

615
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.639
because you're okay, and then OK, yeah, that's fine. But

616
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.679
I'm like, I do you not see that? So that

617
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:52.559
was actually the herney surgery was fine, fixed and everything.

618
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:54.079
The ependectomy sucked.

619
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:55.119
I did it.

620
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:57.280
Oh, it was worse than the Horney surgery. I don't

621
00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:59.239
know why, because it's like you're just snipping out a

622
00:34:59.239 --> 00:34:59.880
little tiny thing.

623
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:03.679
So laparoscopic, yeah, but it was.

624
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:06.719
Like, I don't know if it's just the angle they

625
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.239
went in, because you know this three holes and they

626
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:09.840
dig into you.

627
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:12.159
Yeah, but I'd.

628
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.840
Like seized up. It was the weirdest thing. But I'm

629
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:18.000
my desk. This one was upstairs at the time. I'm

630
00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:20.199
just leaning back in my chair like this and I

631
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:23.280
go to sit up and my whole diaphragm, my whole

632
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:27.079
aps just seized and started spasming. It was the most

633
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.320
and I couldn't breathe. My eyes were like bugging out

634
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.039
of my head, and my wife was right next to me.

635
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:33.639
She's like, are you okay, And I'm like I can't

636
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:37.199
talk to you, I can't breathe, and then it just

637
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.320
went away. And and when I would go to bed,

638
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:42.079
like the first two nights when I went to bed,

639
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:44.199
that happened when I was in bed, just like trying

640
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:47.199
to roll over and stuff. It was the craziest situation.

641
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:50.840
And I'm like, that sucked. But it could also be

642
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.760
that it was two pretty major surgeries within five months.

643
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:58.639
I don't know what it was, but anyway, yes, I

644
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:02.639
lost sixty pounds, and during that sixty pound weight loss,

645
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:07.360
I created My program is general is called the Executive

646
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.440
Athlete Protocol. So I deal with athletes because I was

647
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:12.360
an athlete that are executives that you know, generally need

648
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:17.239
to lose weight or want to just improve their current situation.

649
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:19.599
So most of the people I deal with their former athletes,

650
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.400
or like one of my customers, he's former athlete, but

651
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:24.079
he wants to get a better skime so his wife

652
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:28.360
doesn't lappen. And I was like, all right, we didn't

653
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.079
work on this, and that just made me laugh. I'm like, oh,

654
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:33.880
that's fine, and he's a great guy, but it's just

655
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:36.079
it's kind of funny. I'm like, Okay, well, let's do this.

656
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:41.039
And so it's all about just taking the executive and

657
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:44.960
improving them. And so I took what I know and

658
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.440
all the nutrition information that I've digested over the last

659
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:51.079
twenty years and all the science that I've been read

660
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:54.320
and just made this protocol. It's you know, focuses on that.

661
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:59.480
And so executives are a strange lot. Man. There you know,

662
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:03.000
what's like sixty percent of our psychopaths or something.

663
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:04.039
That's what they say.

664
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.800
Yeah, yeah, So it's like you deal with psychopaths all day,

665
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:12.920
but like controlled psychopathy, and so it's it's some of

666
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:17.400
them are hard to deal with just because there's they

667
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:21.079
know that it used to work, right, and I'm like,

668
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:25.119
but it's not. It's not working now, and it's that's

669
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:27.679
that's a hard thing for them to overcome. So I'm like,

670
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:30.360
I got to play therapists sometimes and be like, listen, man,

671
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:33.400
you hired me for a reason, right, let's break this

672
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:37.360
mold and listen to me. I act as like a consultant.

673
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.440
You've hired consultants, You've been a consultant, right, So I

674
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:43.119
give you frameworks to work with it I don't, and

675
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:46.400
I give you, you know, the exercise and everything. But

676
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:48.599
if it's if it doesn't fit in your framework, we

677
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:51.360
can remove it, and I'm fine with that. But like

678
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.760
you work within this framework for a little bit of time,

679
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:56.320
and then we talk all the time, like I can

680
00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:58.199
text you, you can shoot me, not on the couna snap.

681
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:02.000
We have zoom meetings frequently enough where if something doesn't work,

682
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:04.400
then we'll figure it out and we'll take it out,

683
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:08.039
we'll prove it, change it whatever, and I'm that's fine.

684
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:10.519
And then so it's a little bit different of a

685
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:14.320
I'm not just a personal trainer at a gym, and

686
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:20.760
so because we talk about food mostly. So yeah, it's

687
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:24.880
it's it's cool, it's it's a lot of fun seeing

688
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.239
people succeed, you know. It's one of those like I've

689
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:31.679
been a manager and when you see the people you

690
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:36.440
hire succeed, it makes you feel good too, like and

691
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:38.840
you know you help them and you want to help them,

692
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:41.559
and so it's a it's the same concept from like

693
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:44.519
an employee perspective, but in a three to six month window,

694
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:47.280
and so you see them hit their weight loss goals

695
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:51.079
and they're happy and the I'm like, man, I'm so

696
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:54.119
proud of you for like doing this, and and so

697
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:56.719
then you know, you're gain some friendships over the years

698
00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:00.159
from from doing this, and so it's pretty cool to

699
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:03.880
see like these guys that are like really powerful succeed

700
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:05.960
and knowing that you help him out.

701
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.519
Do you get anybody who needs to gain weight?

702
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:14.599
Yes? I did. Actually a former pilot. He's a buddy

703
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:22.559
of mine. He super avid backpacker and here in Colorado

704
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.519
there's really long trails and so he went on a

705
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:30.400
two week trail and he was probably burning five thousand

706
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.800
calories a day, but on the trail you only eat

707
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:35.239
what you can eat, and he's maybe eating two thousand.

708
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:39.239
And he's like he's like six or five, right, He's

709
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:45.119
a tall guy, and he he probably needed to gain

710
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.360
thirty pounds. After that, he looked like, dude, you look skeletal.

711
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:53.199
You need to you know. And we saw him a

712
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:55.960
couple of weeks ago at the pool and talked to

713
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:58.519
him and I was like, dude, you look great. Are

714
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:01.079
You're not going to disappear when you turnside now, so

715
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:05.239
you know, he started laughing like fuck off, thanks man.

716
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:09.039
So like so it's like for him, it was like,

717
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:11.639
you need to eat more, we need to do a

718
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:15.599
reverse diet, and we're adding just three hundred calories at

719
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:18.800
a time for a couple of weeks, and then in

720
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:20.719
a couple of weeks we'll add three hundred more calories,

721
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:22.480
and it's a it's a mix of carbs, approaching and

722
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:26.400
ignore the facts at that point. But then I worked

723
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:27.960
out with him a few times because he's local, so

724
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:29.960
I can just go to the gym with him and

725
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:33.159
taught him how to do everything right and with intensity,

726
00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:37.800
because that's the only downfall of I'm not able to

727
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:41.280
train these people in person is you see people working

728
00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:43.599
out and they're just going through the motions. I'm like,

729
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:47.239
you need to have intensity right so then you can progress.

730
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:51.239
And so I taught him intensity and he understood and

731
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:55.320
then he gained thirty pounds, So yeah, that's great.

732
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:59.320
Is the goal is your goal? How long do you

733
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:00.320
want to work with money?

734
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:04.480
Usually a minimum of three months. Sometimes you can work

735
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:06.639
with people for a year, just depending on what they

736
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:09.440
want to do. Some people I've had to turn people

737
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:14.039
down that Like one guy recently wanted you know, older gentleman,

738
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:18.400
he's super sedentary and he's telling me what was going

739
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:21.519
on and he needs to lose one hundred pounds, Like okay,

740
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:24.320
that's fine, but I really think you should go to

741
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:28.559
like a medical weight loss place. Yeah, right, so, and

742
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.199
i'd look I know where he lives. I looked him

743
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:32.840
up and said, here's some options for you. But usually,

744
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:35.760
you know, people, three to six months is an appropriate

745
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:39.119
time because the first couple of months normally is like

746
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:42.599
weight loss, it's just getting into an optimal shape. And

747
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:46.599
then if you continue with me, it'll be toning and

748
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:49.880
muscle gain. And people hate the word tone, but tone

749
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:54.280
is just how tight a muscle is at rest. There's

750
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:57.400
nothing there's nothing bad about it, but how do you

751
00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:01.960
look when you're just sitting still? Right? And so there's

752
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:04.119
been there's been a few times where people are like, Okay,

753
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.559
well now I want to take this shape and make

754
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:11.679
it look better, more shapely, and okay, we can do that.

755
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:14.480
And so then it's okay, maintenance for a little bit,

756
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:18.880
and then we're gonna ramp up your calories strategically and

757
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:22.480
it helps. And so people come out of that and

758
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.159
they're like, I feel like a million bucks and like

759
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:27.920
you look like a million bucks man you bust a dress.

760
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:30.599
So that's pretty cool. It's really man, I just I

761
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:31.920
love doing this stuff. It's fun.

762
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.039
I know you and I have talked recently about the

763
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:42.039
fact that, like when you when somebody gets to a

764
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:46.079
goal weight, they don't necessarily the beard doesn't necessarily reflect

765
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:49.039
it the way they think it's gonna And there's more

766
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:54.360
work to do past that to to actually, like as

767
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:59.119
you said, tone and and like you know, rearrange where

768
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:04.000
you're where you're weight actually sits, you know, I mean personally,

769
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:10.280
like I'm mister visceral fat in my gut, and I

770
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:12.280
I know even when I get to where I'm I'm going,

771
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.119
it's going to be it's still going to be there.

772
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:18.280
Like it's because it's always been there. It's always it's

773
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:20.639
been bigger and smaller, but it's kind of always been there.

774
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:23.199
Part of it is, you know, I have the anteriorly

775
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:25.920
rotated hips and everybody thinks is so terrible, but isn't

776
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:27.960
really terrible. It just happens to be how your body is,

777
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:30.440
and so my gut just tends to stick out more

778
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.440
and and and and figuring out how to mitigate that

779
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:37.480
is a you know, it is a process. It's not

780
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:40.480
it doesn't just happened with losing weight. I'm not going

781
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:46.760
to have a h especially after after the years of powerlifting, Like,

782
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:50.159
there is no vacuum going on you there's it's not

783
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:52.840
possible because the ship does not move.

784
00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:56.920
Audio too. And I'm like, I look fat and I'm

785
00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:58.599
in a T shirt and I'm like, and then you

786
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:01.199
just lift the surf and there's ad. It's just it's

787
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:04.119
the same thing. It's just yeah, there, I can't vacuum

788
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:06.880
at all, man, And it's like, I just can't even try.

789
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:09.159
The only time I try is just to try to

790
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:13.760
strengthen the TVA a little bit for balance. And the

791
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:15.519
same thing. Like if I stand up right now and

792
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:17.239
just see a little it looks like I have a belly.

793
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:18.880
But I'm like, but look at my arms, like you

794
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:21.719
can see all my veins everywhere, Like you know what,

795
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:24.280
I be fat. Like, it's just funny. It's just funny

796
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:29.119
to me. So, yeah, you just see people focus too

797
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:30.800
much on weight loss.

798
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:35.960
Yeah, the number on the scale, it's I'm looking at

799
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.599
it from a from a health standpoint in terms of

800
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:41.159
like I know that I'll be healthier at that at

801
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:44.679
that weight, but what that weight looks like is kind

802
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:45.559
of the next step.

803
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:48.039
Yeah, the guy I just talked to this week is

804
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:52.880
a smaller guy on a smaller end of just physical stature,

805
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:57.079
but he's a little pot belly, right, he could probably

806
00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:59.719
lose fifteen pounds, but he only wants to lose five.

807
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.559
Like if you, if you, if you lose fifteen, man,

808
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:04.280
that belly is going to go away, and then you

809
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.360
can build back up the muscle around. So you just

810
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.000
don't do that. But if it just one of those

811
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:11.639
five pounds, it's not just going to come from your belly.

812
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:14.360
Right, it comes from everywhere.

813
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:16.760
And so people get focused on the scale. And there's

814
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:21.079
nothing wrong with focusing on the scale, but it's not

815
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:24.119
the only data point. Like I tracked my weight when

816
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:26.360
I was losing weight every single day, wake up these

817
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:29.559
restroom scales right there, A weigh myself. I just wanted

818
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.880
to see the pattern. And so I'm a nerd. I

819
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:36.400
had a spreadsheet and so I would put it in.

820
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.400
This is before I started using the app to track things,

821
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:39.960
but I put it. I would put it in and

822
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:43.159
I was and then the spreadsheet was a here's the date,

823
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:47.440
here's the weight, here's the total weight loss, here's and

824
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:50.079
then there was a graph. So I had a graph,

825
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:53.239
a graph that I'm nerding out man, And so as

826
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:56.079
long as the line was like this, I'm like, I'm good, right,

827
00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:57.719
and then you don't if you do them in it's

828
00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:01.679
going to be bumpy, right right, But after that and

829
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:05.239
just whatever, So people focus on weight loss, and I'm like,

830
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:08.159
you know, yes, it is important to get to a

831
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:11.840
certain weight, but like the BMI calculation is useless. The

832
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:15.559
hip waisted hip ratio is a little more indicative, but

833
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:17.800
most people don't do that, and there's but there's no

834
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:21.280
like good way to do this because I'm I'm obese

835
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:27.480
right now. I'm like, yeah, okay, look, yeah, I'm I'm

836
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:32.760
My BMA is like thirty four. Oh yeah, okay, yeah,

837
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:36.360
this is really accurate, guys. So I don't even know

838
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:38.400
what my waist to hip ratio is. I never measured it,

839
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:40.760
so I just know that, like, like, come on, look,

840
00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:44.159
be am I stupid. But if people focus on the weight,

841
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:48.559
it's fine to focus on the weight, But how do

842
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:52.400
you close fit? How are you sleeping? Are you still

843
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:56.639
snoring a bunch? How's your energy levels? Right? Because especially

844
00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:58.400
the people that haven't worked out in a long time

845
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:03.599
are just getting into it. They're essentially new lifters, and

846
00:47:03.719 --> 00:47:07.239
new lifters can recomp really easily. They can grow muscle

847
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.000
really easily, and then they can lose fat really faster,

848
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:13.079
so the scale weight might stay the same. But I'm like, dude,

849
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:16.119
your shirts are tighter, Like if you show me progress, fix,

850
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:20.760
I'm like, you look better, man, And so don't focus

851
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:22.719
on the scale weight right now. Focus on how you

852
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:27.280
feel and how your pants are getting and that'll that's

853
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:29.800
a huge indicator of progress.

854
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:34.599
Yeah, I'm sure when you're when you're talking to folks,

855
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:40.599
how often are they coming at you with questions about say,

856
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:43.280
g LP one agonists.

857
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:49.000
It's often, And I have no problem with them.

858
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.079
I able.

859
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:57.239
I think that and all of the stuff that I've

860
00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:02.000
read and my science side of my career, I know

861
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:05.519
a lot more in depth about the stuff because the

862
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.679
companies like Eli Lilly, we all know that they I think,

863
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:12.119
is it Mujaro or we Go, I can't remember whoever

864
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.039
makes whatever, but it's Eli Lilly's version. They're using my

865
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:18.559
company's products to just do phase four clinical trials, so

866
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:22.320
I have I can't say like what they're looking for

867
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:25.679
because they don't even tell us, but they're using it

868
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:31.480
to do secondary indications. So these drugs are are amazing,

869
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:35.920
and you know, people sit on. Oh, you use a

870
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.599
drug to lose weight. I'm like, dude, there's so many

871
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:42.119
health benefits that come from these things, Like you lose weight,

872
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:45.760
your blood pressure goes down, your heart rate goes down

873
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:49.280
because your blood pressures down, Your kidneys are less stressed,

874
00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:52.079
so your kidney pressure goes down, so you remove kidney disease.

875
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.559
You have less cravings for alcohol and bad things like

876
00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:00.599
less sugar cravings. So I mean there's a litany of benefits,

877
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:03.679
and so of all the drugs that have ever really

878
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:06.320
like come out this, this is as close to like

879
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:10.199
a miracle drug as possible right now. And then there's

880
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:12.360
some other ones that are coming there in the mix

881
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:17.800
right now. I think it's Regeneron is making like a

882
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:23.159
myostatin inhibitor, and so it's like lose weight, gain muscle

883
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:27.480
same time. Yeah, right, And so the biggest thing with

884
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:29.760
GLP ones is you don't want to just lose weight,

885
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:34.639
right right, you want to lose fat. My best friend

886
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:37.280
is on the GLP one right now, and he's a

887
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:41.639
chef right well, he was trained as a chef. We

888
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:47.320
owned a food truck together, and I'm like, dude, what

889
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:49.519
are you eating? Tell me what you're eating, and he goes,

890
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:53.000
So I had an orange for breakfast and I was like,

891
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:56.920
that's forty calories. You know, that's not like you need

892
00:49:56.960 --> 00:50:00.920
to ramp up your protein intake because I said it

893
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:04.599
earlier on the podcast too, like you need to protein

894
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:06.719
and take needs to be high, and there's a reason

895
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.599
for it. There's mechanistic reasons within your body. But it's

896
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:11.760
a simple way. If you're eating protein and you have

897
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:15.239
protein in your in your body, your body chooses to

898
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:19.320
use fat for fuel. It's simple, simple solution.

899
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:19.679
Right.

900
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:23.039
But if you don't eat high levels of protein, your

901
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:26.920
body's going to choose whatever's easiest. It's gonna be fat,

902
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:30.159
it's gonna be muscle, it's gonna be liver, glycogen, right,

903
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.960
it's gonna be all that stuff. So, like, eat a

904
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:35.519
ton of protein, like fifty grams a meal for you

905
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.719
dude at his weight and it helped him because he

906
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:41.360
was looking gaunt, and I'm like, you need to you

907
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:44.880
need to ramp this shit up, bro. Yeah, So I

908
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:49.960
think these The thing about golp ones is they get prescribed. Great,

909
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:55.400
what are you going to change? Like, what nutrition habits

910
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:57.880
are going to change? I really wish they would have

911
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:01.760
the nutrition is paired with it. But that has something

912
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:04.239
to talk to these people about, Like you can't just

913
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:05.800
go get the bag of Rito's and think you're gonna

914
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:09.960
lose weight. So there's got to be some long term

915
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:12.280
clinical effects.

916
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:17.639
Like that that they're used by and large, I think

917
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:21.239
by the medical community the same way that the the

918
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:27.440
psychic community uses antidepressants. Se here's your antidepresidant, you'll feel better.

919
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:28.719
Yeah, I don't have to talk.

920
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:32.840
Here's your GLP one agonist. You'll lose weight, You'll just happen,

921
00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:36.480
just like his magic whatever. And let's you know, ignore

922
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:44.440
repatterning your your eating towards something healthier. Just eating less

923
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:45.840
than the same thing as eating right.

924
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:49.320
So right, and it's you know what tell people those

925
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:53.679
if you get eighty percent right, massive progress, you're gonna

926
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:55.719
make massive progress. You do not need to get one

927
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:59.960
hundred percent right, because perfection is the enemy of greatness.

928
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:03.280
And in this situation, if you can just eat well

929
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:05.880
eighty percent of the time, dude, I eat dessert all

930
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:11.440
the time. Like I had four cookies, like cookies, big ass,

931
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:14.840
you know cookies today, you know, And I'm like, yeah,

932
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:18.880
I'm fine, I'm not going to explode. And so I

933
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:22.480
think if people just need to get it eighty percent right,

934
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:24.599
you can still enjoy your dessert, you can still have

935
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:27.360
a beer, glass of wine, whatever it is, get it

936
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.199
eighty percent right and you will make huge progress. And

937
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:34.039
we talked earlier about the success pyramid consistency, like showing

938
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:37.039
up right. The next one is macros, not macros and nutrition.

939
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:39.800
This is for a weight loss, I should say it's

940
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:45.360
nutritionl it's it's calories and then macros, right, so it's

941
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:50.360
like they're still really important, but like understand your calorie

942
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.199
and take and then you keep your protein high, and

943
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.519
then it's fitness. That's like eighty percent of your successes

944
00:52:55.800 --> 00:53:00.559
is going up and nutrition and then the other twenty

945
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:05.480
percent is fitness and recovery. So if you can eighty

946
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:09.039
percent right of eighty percent, better progress than even made

947
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:14.559
in years, So good, great, I'm happy for you. So

948
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:16.800
I really think that people, you know, there should be

949
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:20.559
some educational materials that go along with it, and people

950
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:24.679
assume that, yeah, gosh, for years, team was creatine caused

951
00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:28.599
kidney disease. It doesn't, right, Oh my god. I remember

952
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:29.920
when it came out, it was like, this is like

953
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:33.440
a steroid. I'm like, no, it's not. But that's the

954
00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:36.079
only the only reason I can't drink great products anymore

955
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:39.079
is because of muscle text grape flavored creatine to four

956
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:44.239
scoops and it was like fifty grams of sugar. Yeah,

957
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:50.199
aging myself here, But that's but then high protein diets

958
00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:53.400
cause kidney disease, and I know they don't. There was

959
00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:57.039
just a study that reaffirmed it two weeks ago, and

960
00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:00.360
so I'm like, no, dude, eat a good amount of

961
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:03.719
protein and then fill in the gaps and you will

962
00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:06.039
make massive progress on that. And even people that are

963
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:10.840
not in jailp ones eed more protein fibrous vegetables too,

964
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:14.760
in fruit and make that your focus and you'll be

965
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:16.760
well on your way to success.

966
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:21.480
Knowing that it is difficult to get like decently prepared

967
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:25.079
vegetables in even high end restaurants a lot of the

968
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:27.000
time that isn't not just soaked with fat. Like what

969
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:30.280
do you tell clients about what to eat when they're

970
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:31.880
on the road, or so.

971
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:36.880
I tell them, look at you know the my plate

972
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:40.599
view right, or I think it's called my plate where

973
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:42.639
it breaks it down instead of the food pyramid, right,

974
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:44.159
it breaks it down by percent of what should be

975
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:47.400
on your plate. And so it's kind of half the

976
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:54.199
plate is fibrous fruits and veggies, carbs and twenty protein.

977
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:56.039
That's kind of how you should look at your plate

978
00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:59.559
when you make success on the road. You know, don't

979
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:03.119
order stuff like collar greens. I love collar greens, but

980
00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:05.320
they're full of butter and fat and stuff like that.

981
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:08.880
If you're gonna get veggies as for like steamed broccoli, right,

982
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:11.480
and then you can sprinkle some salt and peppern at

983
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:14.639
the table or whatever. But or saltea asparagus because they're

984
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:17.000
not gonna saltea and so much oil that is going

985
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:20.159
to be soft, but you can let it sit on

986
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:22.679
the plate and in any oil will go onto the

987
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:27.159
plate and then it's not onmos exparagus. So it's focus

988
00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:31.960
on half your plate being fruits and vegetables, and you know,

989
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:34.920
it's it's hard. The other thing was like, here's a

990
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.280
trick for your readers that your listeners is for salad

991
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:41.800
at home. Instead of putting all your stuff in the bowl, first,

992
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:47.159
put your dressing in the bowl first, spin it all around, right,

993
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:49.400
and you get it all over it. Then put your

994
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.679
stuff in that way you've controlled the dressing, and by

995
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:54.480
putting it all on aside you can mix it up.

996
00:55:54.639 --> 00:55:57.360
That dressing will go all over everything that is a

997
00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:03.239
properly dressed salad. So you know, like salad dressing is fatty,

998
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:07.199
so like an ounce in a whole bowl is more

999
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:09.639
than enough, but people don't think it's enough when they

1000
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:12.960
put it on the material itself. But if you start

1001
00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:14.840
with it on the side of the bowl and then

1002
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:17.679
mix them that way, perfectly dressed salad every time.

1003
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:21.960
So here's another trick around salad dressing. Make your own.

1004
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:27.280
There's that too, you can you know, I mean, you

1005
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:30.360
can use as much or a little oil as you want,

1006
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:35.000
and some mustard keeps things from separating.

1007
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:36.480
The good dinon.

1008
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:43.920
Yeah, you know, a wine, vinegar or lemons or limes

1009
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:47.320
or whatever spices you want because they don't have any

1010
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:50.840
calories to speak of. And yeah, that's pretty much what

1011
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:53.119
we do, honestly. And I'm I'm not a huge fan

1012
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:56.239
of dressing anyway. So it's not like like, even if

1013
00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:58.000
I were not worried about my food when I ordered

1014
00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:00.559
a salad in a restaurant, would with the dressing on

1015
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:02.639
the side, So that it's not like I'm not swimming

1016
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:02.880
in it.

1017
00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:05.519
That's the next tip is you get the dressing on

1018
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:07.760
the side. Dressing on the side, you get a steak,

1019
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:09.840
you know, tell them not to put butter on top

1020
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:10.679
of it when they serve it.

1021
00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:16.639
Yeah, right, Or so I think that it's a little

1022
00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:20.440
bit of like executive privilege, but not just that that

1023
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:23.440
you can't go into restaurants and say that you want

1024
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:28.000
a particular thing that's not necessarily on the menu the

1025
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:29.920
way you want it, and you can ask for it,

1026
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:31.840
and if you're in the right kind of restaurant, you're

1027
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:33.239
going to get it, and it's going to be good

1028
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:35.559
because they, you know, everybody wants to do they deal

1029
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:38.280
with me, right, Yeah, it's what Yeah, exactly, it's what

1030
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:38.800
they deal with.

1031
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:42.320
And it's not it's not even like you're not asking

1032
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:46.159
for anything crazy, right, you know, it's you're not asking

1033
00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:49.480
for your stake to be Pittsburgh style, right, right. You know,

1034
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:54.400
you're asking for just some some basic, simple, minor prep

1035
00:57:54.519 --> 00:57:59.360
change and that's perfectly reasonable request. And so I think

1036
00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:01.840
you know exact to know this stuff, and so it's

1037
00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:05.519
a matter of reinforcing it from my perspective, and salad

1038
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:07.559
dressing on the side. You know, don't put butter on

1039
00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:11.679
my misteak as many vegetables as possible. And then you

1040
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:15.039
know a big fun thing, fun fact about baked potatoes.

1041
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:19.320
If you let a baked potato cool, it actually turns

1042
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:24.519
some of the starchy carbs into non edible carbs, which

1043
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:29.599
become like prebiotics. You'd lose. Yeah, in a four hundred

1044
00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:34.679
gram yellow potato, which is a good sized potato, that's

1045
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:41.800
a pound, it's huge. You only anything about this, uh no, sorry, yeah,

1046
00:58:41.800 --> 00:58:46.360
four hundred grams and dude, I'm I usually have the

1047
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:48.880
math in the top of my head. Anyway, Let's say

1048
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:50.840
you have one hundred grams of carbs in that potato,

1049
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:53.599
which is about an it's a pound potato, that's what

1050
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:56.239
it is. That's party calories. If you let it sit

1051
00:58:56.280 --> 00:58:58.519
for five minutes, some of those carbs turned back into

1052
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:01.239
non digestible You instead of going from one hundred grads

1053
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:03.639
of carbs, you go to like eighty seven grands of carbs.

1054
00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:07.880
And so it's it's fascinating how that works, but it

1055
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:12.320
does happen, and you it's good for your gut. So

1056
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:15.280
it's a pre biotic that helps your gut flora so

1057
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:17.440
I'm like, let your potato sit for a few minutes.

1058
00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:22.880
And in the second second reason why that's important physics

1059
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:28.320
nerd potatoes have high heat, and what I mean by

1060
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:31.199
that is it takes a lot to eat them up

1061
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:32.800
and also takes a lot for them to cool off.

1062
00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:35.119
So what's so why French fries are always hot as

1063
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:37.079
hell for a long time. Same thing with the potato.

1064
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:40.000
Let it sit right because it's gonna stay hot for

1065
00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:43.159
a long time. And then some of it turns back

1066
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:45.039
into prebiotics and it's good for you and you have

1067
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:46.719
less carbs that you're going to digest and use.

1068
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:52.519
The probiotics are it's like like potato starch like that kind.

1069
00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:59.000
Of Yeah, it's like inulin this, yeah, inulin, and there's

1070
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:01.360
a couple other ones that it turns into a non

1071
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:04.760
digestible carb and so it just helps your cut, which

1072
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:05.119
is good.

1073
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:09.360
That's crazy. I We have one of our trainers here

1074
01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:13.280
is a competitive bodybuilder. He's not a big guy, but

1075
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:17.599
and and he's somebody who's like a very dramatic like change.

1076
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:21.559
When I five years ago when we opened this this thing,

1077
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:25.440
we you know, we're doing apparel, and we have had

1078
01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:27.400
him in a photo shoot and it's like, I can't

1079
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:29.679
use this picture because he has tints, Like what am

1080
01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:32.320
I gonna do? I can't you know this? And now

1081
01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:37.519
he's fucking ripped, but he's a huge like potatoes over rice, guy,

1082
01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:42.840
Like potatoes are better because for me, nutritionally better, they're

1083
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:45.880
more filling than rice. You don't just them as fast, yeah,

1084
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:49.239
and so you're not just not ripping through them. You know,

1085
01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:51.320
your gut's just not ripping through that, and suddenly you're

1086
01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:51.880
hungry again.

1087
01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:54.800
So that's most people say that about white rice. There's

1088
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:57.719
the only difference between white and brown rice is the

1089
01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:00.519
husk is removed from brown rice to turn you into

1090
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:02.360
white rice, and so the husk is where all the

1091
01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:04.840
fiber comes from. So eat brown rice. It's the same

1092
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:09.239
concept as an eating like a potato, same GI level

1093
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:14.639
gas from Tesla index. So you yes, that's true for

1094
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:18.480
like white rice, jasmine rice, stuff like that. Potatoes just

1095
01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:22.280
sit longer, they're more voluminous, right, and so it's one

1096
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:23.880
of those where it does keep you full or longer.

1097
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:27.599
So if you're on a diet, potatoes are awesome, right,

1098
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:30.400
Just fitch sweet potatoes are fantastic because those will keep

1099
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:33.639
you super low gi for like a long time and

1100
01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:34.679
keep you full for a while.

1101
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:41.280
Yeah, excellent. Uh, I am I'm gonna say that we'll

1102
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:43.639
just we'll call the game right here, and I'm gonna

1103
01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:48.039
intend to have you back and talk more, uh in

1104
01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:51.159
the future about whatever happens to come up. But like

1105
01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:58.440
you're you're my science nerdiest oldest friend, and uh, it's

1106
01:01:58.440 --> 01:01:59.920
always it's always been fun to talk.

1107
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:01.639
And thanks Jim.

1108
01:02:02.039 --> 01:02:05.760
See see how your how your career has gone over

1109
01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:07.440
the years. It's it's been cool.

1110
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:09.639
It was fun to be on here, man. I appreciate

1111
01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:12.800
you asking me on. Yeah, happy to come back anytime.

1112
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:16.400
And I'll give you my socials so you can post

1113
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:18.800
them and see people can how people find you. So

1114
01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:22.079
it's the simplest. It's Right Lifestyle and Fitness. Last name

1115
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:23.960
is w R I G h T. So it's either

1116
01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:26.320
Right Lifestyle Fitness or Right Life and Fit. And so

1117
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:31.760
you can go on Instagram, you can go on LinkedIn, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Uh.

1118
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:34.800
And there's a website, not a great website. Nobody looks

1119
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:35.559
at websites.

1120
01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:38.320
Anymore anyway, so unless they do.

1121
01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:42.559
But yeah, social to where it's at. But you see

1122
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:45.360
me posting on socials all the time, multiple times a day,

1123
01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:47.960
and and you can see what I look like and

1124
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:50.519
give tips and tricks, and I mean I talk about

1125
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:52.960
alcohol and sleep and talk about I talked about We

1126
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:54.920
talked about magnesium before we got on this, and I

1127
01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:57.800
talked about six different types of magnesium and how they

1128
01:02:57.840 --> 01:02:59.400
benefit right.

1129
01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:01.239
Just so I I need to have that conversation.

1130
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:04.679
Yeah. Yeah, there's a couple other doctors that follow that,

1131
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:07.000
you know, list some to stuff. It's great, like there's

1132
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:10.599
there's like twelve types of magnesium. But anyway, conversation for

1133
01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:11.199
another time.

1134
01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:14.440
I had no idea. Yeah, I'm aware of two. Okay, Yeah,

1135
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:17.960
I am at the Jim mcdeon all the social media.

1136
01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:19.800
This show is fifty percent Facts. For percent is a

1137
01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:21.960
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1138
01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:24.400
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1139
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:26.239
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1140
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:28.159
next time. Thanks again, Justin