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Okay, today's show, I wanted to bring on somebody that
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I've known for a very very long time. It's been
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over twenty years. I want to say it's upen in
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about twenty two years.
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Yeah, twenty two, twenty three, something like that.
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Yeah, so my twenty twenty I mean two thousand and
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three ishousand, when t mag was really popular. He Mag. Yes,
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this is one of one of my team mag and
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then Ta Mag sort of spin off friends. I had
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Tony genllcore on years ago, maybe a year and a
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half ago.
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He was a nice guy.
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Yeah, he used a lot of a lot of fun
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to talk to. In the six months, I might go
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through everybody that I knew, and it came up with him.
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There's some good interviews there.
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There are definitely some good interviews there. Uh, I don't
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think that. I mean there was a core group of
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people there, uh in a tamag and then the spin
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off Rugged, which really sounds like a it sounds like
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a gamer. I'm sorry, it just does.
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Not.
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I think it did then too, but that's another thing altogether.
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But you had Eric Cressy and and uh, you know
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Marion was there, Yeah, Joel Marion do Yeah, a bunch
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of people that have that that were tracked toward doing
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something in the fitness space, but a lot of people
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that weren't. They were just like kind of fitness interested
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folks who were not necessarily trying to make make make
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a living and make a or to make any kind
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of impact in the in the fitness world. And I
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certainly that's not what I was intending do at the time.
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And then it sort of happened, you know, in the
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years after that, and now you are are doing that,
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although this is this is obviously not your main career,
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but tell us about your man, can introduce yourself, tell
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us about your career, and then so yeah.
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Yeah, my name is Justin Right. That was one of
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the non fitness influencers back in that day. But I
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was an athlete. I was a high school baseball captain,
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I played, I did mma, I've done strong man, So
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I was always interested in sports. I played sports forever,
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and so just natural transition to lifting. And then found
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the magazine because it was actual a physical magazine you
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could buy in the grocery store at that time. So
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that's how I got on the forums when I was
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in college. And so my career has all been around science.
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I'm a scientist by training, I'm a molecular biologist, and
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then I ended up getting my MBA at Boston University.
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And during this time, you know, I've been I've been
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training people and helping people off and on the whole
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time I've known you. And now it's with you get
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to the point where sometimes in life you're like, I
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just need to do something different, And I'm getting to
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that point in my life where like, Okay, it's time
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to make this a real thing, you know, and transition.
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So I'm in the middle of transitioning. I'm still traveling
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sales scientists deal with MD's PhDs all over the US
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like this this week, I'm going to a major hospital
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in Kansas City. Two weeks ago, i was at Mayo Clinic. Yeah. Right,
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So it's it's that's my career. But now it's training
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those people in a different way and not in science.
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It's how to optimize them with fitness and nutrition. So
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it's a different world in that regard. The training is
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pretty similar to what most people would do, but it
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the goals are different. The goals aren't necessarily looking like
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you were like you train, it's more mental status and
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like an aura, a leadership aura, like you see a
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fit leader walk into the room, like that guy takes
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care of himself. He has systems in place to keep
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his health up. Because if he can keep his health up,
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he has no two pm crash in the afternoon. He
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can go to the client dinners and still last all
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night long and be fit and be ready to tackle
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the day. So it's a different world that they live in.
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Their stress levels are up here all the time and
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ours are usually you know, down here, and of course
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everybody gets stressed and it fluctuates, but they're they're on
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their fight or flight mechanism is fight all the time,
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and so their stress levels need to be managed in
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a different way. So it's a different way to think
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about it in a holistic perspective than it is from
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like just training people at a gym.
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It's a different wrinkle on the work worklife balance ecusion.
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I think, yeah, because a lot of us think about
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you know, like work time versus family time or whatever.
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But but there's also that those is also the me
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time part of it, and that and fitness is kind
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of where that fits. And yeah, there's a.
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Yeah, a lot of them don't have time, like I
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don't have time, like, yeah, you do, and the crazy
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that they become the best clients, the ones will say
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I don't have time because they start working out and
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it's just like, dude, you need three maybe four days
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a week under an hour. You don't need you don't
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need hours and hours in the gym. But then those
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hour long sessions where you're just thinking become thirty minute
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sessions because you can think clearer and harder because you're
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physically fit, So it frees up time. It's it's it's counterintuitive,
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I know, but like having that mental clarity and that
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mental sharpness all day long means those tasks you have
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all day long that would take longer takes shorter times.
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You can make decisions better, you can make decisions faster,
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you can do more with less when you're physically fit,
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just because your mind is sharp. It's fascinating.
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Yeah, there's a you know a thing about that you
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kind of need that sort of dilatory time that you're
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that you're not thinking about anything to recover your brain
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enough to think about about real things. But if you're not,
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if that's not active time, then it just sort of
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expands to suck up all of your time. And that's
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when people say they don't have enough time. A lot
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of it is that that they're spending so much time
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trying to recover their mind and be able to you know,
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think clearly and and and figure out, you know, how
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to act or whatever on on on the thing that's
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in front of them, and that just sucks up all
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the all the air in the room instead of in
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sitting me able to actually like go to the gym
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or go run or do any of the thing is
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that people do that you know, move their physical body
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around and provide that kind of environmental feedback I.
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Think, you know, speaking of just like brain recovery, like
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they don't get enough sleep. Yeah, right, like they don't
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you talk to executives like I talked to a high
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level Washing Washing University Saint Louis researcher. You know, it
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was like, yeah, I slept for three hours last night,
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and I'm like, what are you doing?
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Man?
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Like your brain is not recovering, Like it's not let
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alone your muscles. It's like you're not You're not even
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getting into rem sleep to where your brain can recover.
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And just one of those you have to focus on it.
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You have to turn off the screen, like you can
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look at a TV. TV is totally fine to watch
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at night, but like staring at at a computer, like
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we're sitting in a computer right now, are at your
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phone before bed, it delays the melatonin release, and so
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you don't get into deep sleep as fast as you
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would and so like you have to step back from
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being an executive for like an hour before bed, have
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a routine door, you read a book, and you physically settle.
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No alcohol either, like we all love alcohol. Alcohol is delicious, right, yeah,
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but that also prevents you from having the militonin release
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and getting into sleep three, which is physical recovery. The
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first such state is deep sleep and then and then
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ram asleep four. So it's like you can get to sleep,
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you can sleep all night if you have alcohol, but
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you're not recovering. You wake up groggy, you're emotionally tired.
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So you just just like different ways to approach it. Like, dude,
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you're not twenty five anymore. Man, Like you know you
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can just go out and recover. It just doesn't work
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like that. You have to focus on it. And if
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you can recover smarter, you just perform better. And so
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that's that's where like executives, you know, it's training them
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to think holistically and not just I'm going to go exercise,
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like have a plan for your exercise, have a system
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built in, and so you work with somebody like me,
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it's like, here's your system. And then I don't like
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giving them like really tight guardrails for everything, Like if
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you want to switch out an exercise, I don't care.
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That's switch out and excess something you like to do.
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Your nutrition, there's a couple of rules that go into it,
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but it's really like I want you to adhere to
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the plan, which means you have to enjoy the food
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to eat right, so you eat more of certain things
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to keep your fuller longer, but you still can go
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have the client dinners and not be the guy ordering
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a salad with a side salad, you know. Yeah, so
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you have to be able to understand that. And so
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it's just it's a different way of looking at just
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your fitness nutrition plan as from a whole estate perspective.
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Yeah, And I think that because the bodybuilding world is
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just sort of this source or has been historically the
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source of so much of that information, Like how to
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how to be fit, how to look good, all that
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stuff that people get locked in on, the on the
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fringe part. Oh yes, you know, the one percent part.
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And because it's i mean, it's easy to lock in
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on that stuff, because it's it's very regimented, and a
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lot of people need like a lot of structure, and
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they just gravitate towards that. And of course there's the
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whole like a born again fitness per person just like
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taking like people yeah uh not no, no offense to
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anybody who has found religion, but people who find religion
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later in life find it so hard and and that
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can be very true of fitness. And that's that's kind
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of any age. I mean we you know, we see
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it here among members in the gym too. Like you
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you know, someone comes in new and they just want
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to do all the things and they want to do
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it all exactly right or whatever or not yep, and
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not thinking about what how much variation still produces good results?
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Oh yeah, and you see, like man, there's so many
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like they call them science based lifters now and.
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They know some of them personally.
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Yes, they focus on like the most minor tweaks to
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get that extra one percent out and those are headline grabbing.
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It's really it's fascinating to read the stuff. Yeah, but
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when you think about this pyramid of success for muscle gain,
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weight loss, whatever it is that your goal is, the
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very bottom is just being consistent, Like their base layer
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is consistency, right. You don't have to get it ninety
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nine point nine percent right all the time. You have
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to just show up and do stuff like I'm sure
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I'm doing standing biceps curls when I know basing curls
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and preach curls are better for my biceps growth. But
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I'm like, you know what, I don't care. You know,
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it's like, just go do the exercise. You don't need
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to do everything all the time. You need to just
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show up and be consistent about it.
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Doing anything is better than doing nothing right, and you
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might be the most optimal exercise or the most optimal
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time of day to to exercise, or any of those things.
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People worry about food. And like the one that came
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up was antabolic window. Remember that thing. Yes, Yeah, I'm like, no, man,
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just unless you train fasted and you're lifting first thing
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in the morning, there's no such thing as antabolic window.
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And so I told my executive clients, like, if you
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have lunch at noon or one, and you're gonna eat
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dinner at seven, work out somewhere in between there, right,
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And because you're loosing threshold still is gonna stay high.
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You're still digesting protein. It's not going to kill you.
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And muscle protein synthesis is still high twenty four hours
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later after a workout, so you're still using all the protein.
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You don't need to worry about it, like within forty
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five minutes. So for the average person with average ees,
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that just like, go work out and eat when you can, Yeah,
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and you're fine. And that removes a lot of the
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stress from the situation because when you are as stressed
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as they are like all the time up here, then
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you like, I don't want to add to that. I
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want to take away from that, and I want to
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make use calm down a little bit so you can
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just focus on what's right in front of you. And
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I know, I don't know how you guys feel about Huberman.
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I have opinions, but even myself, I tell you which
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way I'm leaving here. But he does have some interesting
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like psychological tricks to do to help calming yourself down
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and that I think those are useful, but like when
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it comes to reading literature, yeah, that's great.
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So no, I'm yeah, I somebody that I know very
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well in the Finnish industry who's a very smart PhD