July 2, 2025

The Voices of Men (2020) | Men’s mental health documentary | 50% Facts Review

The Voices of Men (2020) | Men’s mental health documentary | 50% Facts Review
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Just a couple of days past the official Men’s Mental Health Month, we take a look at a short, but powerful documentary available on YouTube, “The Voices of Men.” It was produced in the UK and is driven by men telling their personal stories of struggle with mental health conditions such as depression and PTSD. Their faces are never seen, and their identities are never revealed. No doubt their words will resonate for many who watch/listen to this documentary.

The doc is available here: https://youtu.be/Y0F1cICm9IM?si=QqtdhTxTZwhIv1BO

We start off with another mental health story. That of the Liver King and his recent run-in with the law after threatening Joe Rogan.

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Uh junism is a is a lot of different official

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months of things like like maybe an excessive number. You know,

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it's it's Pride, it's there's three, four or five other ones,

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and then it's Men's Mental Health Awareness Month.

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I wonder why those are even like a thing. Not

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that it's bad, but I do wonder, like does it

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really do are they really doing some shit?

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That's a really good question. I don't know. I mean,

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obviously Pride because there's a parade and parties and stuff everywhere,

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and but like does that help? And I don't know in.

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Twenty twenty five, like in nineteen ninety with you know,

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I've seen the Milk documentary, yeah, and Milk the movie,

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Like for sure we need to fight some shit. Yeah,

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you know they're not saying that everything's clear, clear and

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free now there's all everyone goes through struggles, and especially

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smaller groups. I get it. But yeah, as a party

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on the street with EDM fixing it.

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I don't know. I think it's I think in most

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holidays and official you know, months dedicated to a particular

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cause are a certain percentage or a a an excuse

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to gather or an excuse to party or whatever, and

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then a certain percentage of raising awareness, but I don't

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know how those and I think there's probably those percentages

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flip depending upon what the subject is.

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Yeah, and maybe I'm just a hater and just getting

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too grumpy, but like a lot of it, I bet

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we could just trickle down to some kind of political lobbying. Yeah,

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and that's what That's what I just hate because I

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don't hate the cause, but like, are they the cause

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isn't fighting the cause. Someone's making money to fight the cause,

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and that's why they're pushing all this shit, you know,

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which sucks. And that's maybe why mental health gets slightly

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less attention now, just because maybe there's less money to be.

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Made other than drugs.

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Yeah, I was gonna start on the light note before

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we get into the deep.

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Oh, I got two pieces before we actually get deep

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into it. But they're both kind of related.

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But you got mine's very related. It may be similar,

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but we may have the same thing. The man got arrested.

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Yes, I know this is the one that this is

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one of the things on my list.

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This is really good, but I'm also skeptical. I'm wondering

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if I spend too much time on the internet now

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because everything I see, I feel like there's a sixty

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percent chance it could be scripted. Uh maybe, but this

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popped up. I don't think we can show them. And

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I got the best screenshot of my life and I

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sent it to Kyle and I said, what the fuck's

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going on here? Look at this gentleman's eyes.

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Uh yeah, that they're they're one of them is one

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of his pupils is blown and the early black.

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The sun's directly on his face. Can you see it's up?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, and one is the size of a pin. Now

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I'm not an eye doctor or doctor in any region,

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but that doesn't look normal.

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Uh No, No.

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The one and only, the one of two.

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Brian Johnson.

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Yeah, I was gonna say, mister Brian Johnson himself has

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either really doubled down with this PR team.

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Which seems unlikely because it is so out there that

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he got arrested.

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But I was watching a lot. I did a deep dive,

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and just some of it feels really weird, you know.

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But he I saw it a couple of days ago,

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within last maybe the weekend we're recording now, on a Wednesday,

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where he was I don't know why, but he just

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kept calling out Joe Rogan to fight him.

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Yes, this is what he said exactly, Joe Rogan, I'm

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calling you out. My name's Liver King, Manton Man. I'm

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picking a fight with you. I have no training in

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jiu jitsu. You're a black belt. You should dismantle me.

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But I'm picking a fight with you. Your rules. I'll come

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to you whenever you're ready.

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Another quote, Because he put out like six videos of

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the same nature. A couple are semi normal for Liver King.

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You know he's talking to the cam, but I think

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he mentions he's two seventy in one of them, like,

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I know you're trained, but I'm two seventy and I'm

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an animal. And I said, well, maybe you were.

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I don't think he's too seventy eight, not anymore. I

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don't know if he could. He's five to five. How

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could he possibly ever be too seventy.

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Yeah, back in the day, maybe two fifty max, maybe

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two forty. But he's definitely lost muscle and weight. Yeah,

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his face looks incredibly unhealthy.

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Yeah, he looks like a he looks a catchers bit.

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It looks so like a hairy ketcher spit.

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It looks so bad. His like you can get it

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from any age and being tired, but you get like

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black you know, like raccoon eyes or like puffy eyes.

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His are like swollen beyond his like shape of his skull,

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Like they look insane. And I know some of that

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does come from Oregon issues. Some is just natural if

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you don't get meat. Yeah, not the his own organs,

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like his own kidney and liver. He's so focused on

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eating ones, but he's not focused on his own health.

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Then there's another one where he's doing some bear crawls

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up to the camera and calls out Rogan to fight again.

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And that one actually just looks like an insane person,

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like what's the very famous sebash. He might be a

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little young horror movie where the chick crawls out the TV.

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Oh the ring ring.

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He's crawling at the camera like the fucking bitch in

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the ring, calling out Rogan, looking literally insane. Yeah, and

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then I guess he just I thought he is Texas, right,

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He's somewhere in Texas, but I think so it sounds

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like he went to Austin and is now stalking Rogan. Yes,

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And that's where my script, you know, potential comes in

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is there's three videos where I don't know if it's

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manager who it is, but they're in his suite at

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a very nice hotel, it looks like, and they're like

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filming him ready to get arrested, and I know not

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all arrests happen break down the door, fucking throw you

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on the ground, right, Like if hypothetical, which is the rumor,

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I think Rogan called somebody said hey, this guy's hunting

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me down, then maybe they would do it a little

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bit more cordially, but just the setup of that, he's

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talking very sporadic and insane to begin with, so I'm

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not both can be true. He could be off his rocker,

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and it could also be scripted, which is sick if

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that's what his PR team is doing, like actually disgusting.

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But he's freaking out and someone's filming him and he's like, well,

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can I bring my phone? And do I have to

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wear clothes? And are they gonna arst me naked? And

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oh I gotta go down, And there's like like a

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vlog on Instagram of him getting clothes on, prepared to

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go and like joking like, well I'll just take a shit,

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like they can't arrest me while like shit right like

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stuff like that, which is insane person talk, but it's

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also feels like it's for the camera. I don't know,

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it just felt very weird.

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I feel like it could definitely be both things. But

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if you flash back a few weeks when we watched

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the liver King documentary, toward the end of it, there

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we were both thinking, okay, well, it's not just steroids, yeah,

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that are flowing to this man's veins, like definitely like

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a mushroom thing.

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And I saw rumors, rumors allegedly maybe hearsay on the

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internet of meth yeah.

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And math as we oh yeah, yeah, I know this

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behavior looks like meth. Yeah, it doesn't look like mushers

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or myth plus mushrooms. So it was.

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Mostly the eyeballs that got me because it looks so crazy,

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and I even think that eyeballs was before him calling

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out Rogan. It was just another video that popped up

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on my shit, and I was like, man, he looks

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actually so unhealthy, because in the documentary he looked like

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liver King, but he didn't look like he was this

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this looks bad even compared to that, And so I

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just googled around, like the pupil shits and then he

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has blue mouth, and all his videos it looks like

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he ate a blue like popsicle blueberry or something like that. No,

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like blue popsicle like blue. And someone said, there's like

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methyl lane or something like.

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A blue methyl yeah, blue methylne something to come off

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of math. They yeah, theoretically, yeah.

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But it sounds like it's probably yeah, just yeah, that's just.

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Kind of caught on pretty recently.

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I just recreationally, I just started saying that, yeah, right,

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so then and his shit is bright blue, and I'm like, well, like,

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even if you are, again, probably both are true, right,

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because if you're trying to make content, you're not You're

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not going to make content about your math. That's one

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part you would hide. So you think it'd rinse his

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mouth or whatever and figure that out. And then yeah,

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I just googled around and obviously there's Reddit's about him,

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but also just talks about pupils. The other idea is

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that if you get smashed in the eye really really bad,

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your pupils could stick like that. I guess I don't

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know potentially, but that's so extreme. The one is so big.

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I I mean, I have never been the kind of

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person to subscribed to the the theory that all PR

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is good PR. And so I don't understand how any

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of this helps him in any way other than just

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you know, it's going to bring some attention, but it's

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going to be largely negative attention, and a lot of

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people have already written the guy off, I think, And

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so I think this just sort of pushes him further

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down that road. I don't know who you know, when

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you see something like this, you think, who is this for?

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I think I saw, you know, James Coppola reposted somebody's

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video where the guy was like, yeah, you need to

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come down to the compound and lock in. Man, you

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just need to lock in. You'll be okay're worried about you,

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Just like, what the actual fuck?

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A couple more cold plunges, your fucking idiot.

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Yeah, and anytime somebody says compound, I'm nervous about cultish

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behavior and weird, weird manisphere shit.

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But good lord, I think the only way I disagree

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with you is PR people that are too caught up

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in their sauce and which case they believe that, Okay,

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we'll show that he's fucking insane and then he'll recover

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and they'll love him again. I like this good guy,

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bad guy. Not that that's the path I would take.

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Or I've been going all the way crazy before I

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come back to saying.

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It's kind of like the Kanye.

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The Kanye right, right, because Kanye has done it, and

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he's done it multiple times, and you know, I'm of

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the belief Kanye is just slightly sick and he's he's

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actually a very good analogy subs because I think he's both.

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I think he has some mental problems and I also

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think he's a genius creator and I think he's a

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genius marketer. So he weaves these three unhealthily. Yeah, and

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so maybe they are trying to play like a YA card,

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which is insane. Yeah, And and you know all this

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stuff is you know, you've turned the volume down, and

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that's what the WWE is, Like I learned about all

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this shit. I feel like watching the WWE because they're

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just like marketing characters through good and bad this whole time,

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and now people are trying to do it in real life.

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But watching like the mini vlogs on Instagram of him

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getting arrested just felt so weird. And then uh, yeah,

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I already wasted too much of my brain on it.

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But I was I was watching him get into the

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truck and I tried to see the guy put him

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in the truck, and I couldn't find a badge. He

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had a vast and a gun and all the kit

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and then then and then and then they won't like

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show the car and it is an Explorer, but then

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they pull zoom out and it's all blocked out, and

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like Austin p D like they're gonna you know. Yeah,

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It's just that kind of stuff made me raise an

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eyebrowt There's there's a clip of him getting in and

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it is like semi cordial, you know, like they're not

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chucking him in there. Uh, which again, if he's off

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the rocker on meth and how he's acting in his videos, yeah,

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you think he's just gonna like, yeah, I'll hop in

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the truck like what you know, you know, willing we Yeah,

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it just felt very weird. It felt very weird, but

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it does obviously this episode we're talking about mental health

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in a bit, and so that's Yeah, me and Jim

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were on the same page seeing the same news factors.

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So this is from from k x A n in

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in Austin. According to Austin Police Department, detectors contacted miss Rogan,

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who stated he had never had any interaction with Johnson

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and consider the posts to be threatening. Police located Johnson

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at the four Season Four Seasons hotel around six pm

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Tuesday and took him into custody, and additional Instagram video

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posted around seven thirty pm shows who appears to be

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Johnson wearing a burgundy hoodie and pants, handcuffed getting into

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a police vehicle.

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Yeah. The vlogs on Instagram. I haven't checked, but I

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imagine they're still up and he's putting that sweatsuit on.

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He's just like walking around his fucking hotel room naked

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or like in boxers with his wife and his PR

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guy who's like in a suit.

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It's just all really really weird.

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And you know, I mean, the other possibility is this

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PR guy is like he cannot keep a leash on

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his client. Sure, and he, I mean, and what he's

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there to try to do whatever he can to keep

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a leash on his client, but he's not successful.

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lot of people film everything? I guess Yeah, in your

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hypothet to go why the PR guy is not evil?

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Is like, yeah, you want to make sure your client's

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not going to get beat the fuck up or mistreated

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by the cops. Like I do understand that or just

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witness what's gonna happen correctly. But it just feels weird

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to me. And maybe I'm just that middle millennial where

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I tip both ways, where like just like having your

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camera out all the time feels weird, you know, like

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that's not the first thing I even think of, And

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like this is a crazy instance. If one of my

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friends or clients is like getting arrested and threatening Joe

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Rogan to fight him, then he's gonna die if he

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does that. Like there's no way he fights Joe Rogan

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of wins. Like I don't think like, oh, let me

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just film it, Like I'm thinking about how can I

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fix this problem?

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Yeah, what he was arrested for I read in another

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article is terroristic threat. And terroristic threat is very subjective. Sure,

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it doesn't necessarily it doesn't necessarily have a great definition,

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you know, it's it's what well, and they asked Rogan

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do you find this threatening? And he said, yes, I

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find this threatening, so heuristic threat yeah.

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And I would too, right, like yeah, like the guy's

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talking insane, his pupils popping out his eye. The one

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thing is though, like one, if it's one on one,

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Rogan's gonna whoop your ass, and then two, I'm pretty

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sure it's true that Rogan obviously has insane amounts of money,

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like he has like ex Navy seals watching his house

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twenty four seven. So well, yeah, that's good luck, bucko.

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It would makes sense. But at the same time, like

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it is well known that that Rogan got very paranoid

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about his personal safety after the phil Harmon incident where

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his wife, you know, killed him and I think the

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kids on herself. I can't remember of the kids, but

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she definitely killed him and then herself. Yeah, and that

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was a really good friend of his.

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Yeah, yeah, they were on they were on news radio.

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Yeah no, but yeah, and beyond that, yeah, really good friend.

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Ye yah. I think they're really good friends. And it

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was all Andy Dick's fault because he Andy Dick's another one.

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Yeah, Andy Dicks got Yeah, he's apparently now living in

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a just read this. The other day in trailer park

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Trailer Parking Springs.

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Guys, I've admitted here many times in confession that I'm

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really into degenerate ass live streams, And so they'll be

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very small streamers, like not many views, and they'll just

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be vlogging Hollywood or West Hollywood or whatever. And a

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couple of them have I don't know if they're buddies

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or just like met up with Andy Dick. This is

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probably like last year, and they'd just be walking around

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Hollywood Andy Dick. Uh and although nice in these moments,

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you could just tell he's off his rocker for sure,

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you see. You know Tom Green, I'm trying to think

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of who else is kind of like Andy Dick.

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Tom Green is not crazy though, no, but like same vibe.

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But I don't know what this motherfucker's about that you

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never know what he's gonna do. But yeah, I'm just

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meaning the same era of like comedy, same kind of

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weird comedy because they're not Dave Chappelle and they're not

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Martin Lawrence. You know, they're like mid level weird. I'm

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trying to think of who else man like weird Al

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Yankovic issue, I don't right like they're kind of this

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this like level because Andy Dick never really made it,

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although he's on big TV shows and stuff.

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Yeah, he I think that the best way to say.

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And he was a I mean he was a stand

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up for a successful stand up for for a long time.

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I think he just he sabotaged himself. I mean that's

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the reason that he wasn't a bigger star is that

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he sabotaged himself. And he sabotaged himself because he wasn't

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a bigger star.

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He had one of the early boros, you know, one

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of the early reality TV shows too, where it was

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like Andy Dick's Mansion or something. It was like three episodes,

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and I think it was too crazy and they shut

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it off because he was like hard to work with

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and obviously doing crazy shit. And even being a successful

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comedian though even ten years ago, is such a different

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thing to being a successful comedian now. Yeah, you know, right,

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like successful comedian now you're flying private in a Rolls Royce.

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Successful comedian, then you're getting picked up by HBO for

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a movie. You know, like like you're still you're making

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maybe one hundred K just being a comedian back in

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the day, where now they're some of the richest folks.

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You had to tour all the time, right, Yeah, and

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you're not doing arenas.

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Yeah.

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I just I just realized very recently that a woman

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who was in my first improv class back in twenty eighteen,

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so I think she was still in high school or whatever,

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she started doing stand up and she's fucking killing it.

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She's her whole set is on the Netflix is a

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Joke YouTube channel. She's like part was part of the

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Netflix's a Joke Festival. Yeah, she's fucking hysterical. She's she's great,

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and like, if you were in a scene with her,

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you just never knew what she was going to say, Yeah,

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and so you just had to like kind of go

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with it.

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Comedy is so cool.

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Yeah, shout out Ruby sed Nick.

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Yeah that's dope. She's from Sack.

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Then she's from Sack.

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Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. I mean obviously, like music, comedy,

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like the business models changed a lot, uh, and there's

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a lot more opportunity with TikTok and things, right, Like

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you can absolutely pop off and you know, rogue on

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those guys, the Shane Gillises or whatever, the Theo Vaughn's.

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I've really blazed a path for people to have real success.

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You know, we're back in the day. Yeah, you're doing clubs.

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I just got introduced to it so early, like my

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first good and bad, my first like bout of depression

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in like high school. I didn't know what to do

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with myself, and I was like, well, I got like

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force something, you know, And so I just started going

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to Blockbuster and renting every famous stand up comedy ever

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and I just fell in love with stand up comedy.

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Like in high school, many times.

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You watched Delirious.

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It was Delirious. It was like all the Martin Lawrence,

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it was all the Chris Rock. I didn't go like

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too far back, you know, cause the same issue we've

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talked about, I didn't like old shit. So like I

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was watching a lot of Chris Rock, a lot of

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Martin Lawrence, early Dave Chappelle's even like really early Rogans

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at the time, because he wasn't as popular obviously in five.

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But I'm trying to think of who else I saw.

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Dane Cook had a run there. Dane Cook's like CD

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I think was number one selling in the nation and

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it was just stand up CD.

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So you're way too young to have experienced the the

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Steve Martin era, but he.

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Watched his movies.

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He was hysterical but very off the wall.

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Yeah, I watched like that's like what you might call

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it kind of a humor is it Three Musketeers or whatever?

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Or Three Amigos?

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Three Amigos?

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Right, So like I watched all those so I got

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his vibe almost like Jim Carrey esque too, right, Like

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he's just kind of like.

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Goofy, except if Jim Carrey makes me uncomfortable and Steve

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Martin doesn't.

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Jim Carrey, Yeah, I mean talk about mental health. Jim

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Carrey might be there too. It's just so hard to tell,

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like either you're the best actor in the world or

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you have to be the best actor in the world

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because you're a little off.

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I think it's I think it's a little bit of

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mental health. But he's also really just like painfully smart man.

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Yeah, that's that's kind of the I think I mentioned it.

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I've seen his uh I don't know what the school was,

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but he went to like an art college. Yeah, and

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he does the uh whatever, the keynote or I don't

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know the real term, but at the graduation. Yeah, yeah,

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is a keynote. Is there a fancy term, it's just

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a graduation. Yeah, he just did like and it's just

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like beautiful, you know, it's just like literally, I know

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he had killed it. Just twenty minutes of poetry, he

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kills it. Yeah. He just hats a picture like he

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could have been a rapper and just told the best

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stories ever. Like he just his word and I think

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it's like half off the cuff, you know, he really is. Yeah,

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something special.

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Yeah, yeah, Liver King Man, Liver King. I don't know

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what the hell's going to go on there. The other

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the other one that came up to me today or

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actually yesterday, was in a game the White Sox versus

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the Diamondbacks in Chicago the other day, a fan, twenty

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two year old fan, yelled out something to Katel Marte

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about It was some comment about his mother. His mother

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was killed in a in a car accident in twenty seventeen,

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and whatever this fan said was so upsetting that essentially

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it stopped the game because he was like in tears,

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like inconsolably in tears. No, I think it just hurt

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him too bad. I think it just like got right

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under the skin and whatever. So this guy has been

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banned for life. But number one, that's a super shitty

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thing to do, and like and and like, who who

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is the person with them with the most mental health issue?

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In this equation, it's the guy who yelled something? But

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to like, how, what's the what's the time clock on

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grieving a parent, especially a parent lost in an accident

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or some something sudden whatever? You just you know you're

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not prepared for it. How could you be?

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Yeah, that's so I always again be in this middle millennial.

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I just blame that on the internet. That's just the

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ship again. Like I'm I'm anti bowllying, but I do

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think there's something when you're in third grade and you

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tell the big kid, hey, you're fucking fat, and the

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fucking kid punches you. There's a lesson to be learned there.

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And this guy in the crowd has only lived on

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the internet talking as much shit as he wont his

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whole time, and that's how he gets his attention. I

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agree with you, he's the sick one because he just

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feeds off any attention and he doesn't know how to

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get good attention, so he gets bad attention and then

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he's gonna go say whatever the fuck he wants with

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no repercussions. That's why I kind of wish the baseball

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player would, yeah, fucking at least punch him one, give

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a little something.

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I do not know what happened to him or a

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fan after they I would have punched him after they

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pulled him out, because it I mean, it could have been.

464
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Anything could have happened. Yeah, it's just so shit, especially

465
00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:42.480
especially on on the South Side Chicago. Yeah, any damn

466
00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:44.559
thing could have happened to get for just you know,

467
00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:46.880
making him making white Sox fans look bad.

468
00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:49.640
Yeah, well either way, Yeah, you're just a shit human.

469
00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:52.680
Just stop doing Yeah, stop doing this, like what the fuck,

470
00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:54.119
because you're gonna do that one day to the wrong

471
00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:55.960
dude and you're gonna get fucking punched. Yeah, and you're

472
00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:57.440
gonna deserve it at that point. Yeah.

473
00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:00.599
No, for sure, I'm not I'm not of Island person,

474
00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:02.799
but some people just need to be punched in the face.

475
00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:04.680
Because you'll never learn. I mean, I've seen it before.

476
00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:07.440
There's a clip I think from last year. I don't

477
00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:09.119
even know where it was. But a lot of times

478
00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:12.160
you can buy like you know, VIP experiences to games

479
00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:13.640
and you get to go in the free food in

480
00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:15.720
the back and it's something like that. And I don't

481
00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:20.319
know if Russell Westbrook was injured or maybe it was

482
00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:22.079
after the game or before, but I think he's in

483
00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:24.680
regular clothes and he's walking through that hallway and there's

484
00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:26.680
fans back there, you know, at the little buffet. Yeah,

485
00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:28.759
and someone says something to him like as close as

486
00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:31.279
me and sebas are, and Westbrook just walks up to

487
00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:33.720
him like, oh yeah, you know, like in Westbrook grew

488
00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:35.839
up in I think a not great part of LA Like, yeah,

489
00:23:35.880 --> 00:23:39.039
don't fuck around, man, Like he's a human. You would

490
00:23:39.079 --> 00:23:40.359
never say that to any other human.

491
00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:41.720
Yeah, there's no point in that.

492
00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:44.160
Yeah, Like you're gonna go just say that to anybody

493
00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:45.559
in the year walking through the mall and you just

494
00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:49.759
blurt out everything you think, Like, shut the fuck up, man. Yeah, people,

495
00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:52.200
it's ruining it. It's ruining it. Yeah.

496
00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:54.839
I don't understand. I understand because sports.

497
00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:57.319
The heckling's one thing, man, But like, just like keep

498
00:23:57.359 --> 00:23:59.240
it about the game, hey, man, you can't shoot a

499
00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:01.440
fucking free throw, you know, Like, talk all the shit

500
00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:04.559
you want about the game, right, Don't talk about someone's family,

501
00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:06.359
don't talk about them personally.

502
00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:08.799
Yeah, I mean the only time that it can be

503
00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:12.880
about that it can be personal is about performance, right yeah, yeah.

504
00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:15.319
You're fucking trash or slow, you can't jump whatever the

505
00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:19.000
fuck go crazy. And then the player, which it's similar

506
00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:22.839
to you know, content or acting or whatever, Like, they

507
00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:26.480
choose to show the world their sport, so then they

508
00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:29.319
with the responsibility of making one hundred million dollars, you

509
00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:32.400
also get to be criticized about your sport, right, because

510
00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:35.039
that's a hot topic on ESPN and stuff. Man, they're

511
00:24:35.079 --> 00:24:37.160
so mean to players. But like that they chose to

512
00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:40.079
make a lot of money, yeah, showing this right, If

513
00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:41.880
I choose to make a lot of money doing painting,

514
00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:44.599
you're allowed to criticize my paint, right, Like that's just

515
00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:46.559
how it goes. But I didn't make a lot of

516
00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:48.960
money about my mother. Don't talk about my fucking mother,

517
00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:51.960
you know, exact and even like not on like some

518
00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:54.200
crazy street shit. I obviously grew up in the suburbs,

519
00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:55.880
but I've been around some street shit. Like you just

520
00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:58.880
don't talk about someone's mom. Like you talk about someone's mom,

521
00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:01.000
they're gonna beat the fuck up as an adult. As

522
00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:03.160
a kid, like, you just don't do that you know,

523
00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:05.319
talk about their dad, talk about you don't talk about

524
00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:06.839
their kids, you don't talk about their sister, and you

525
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:08.920
don't talk about their mother, or you deserve to get

526
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:09.559
beat the fuck up.

527
00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:11.359
Yeah, I can't disagree with that.

528
00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:14.279
Yeah, it's just why what are you doing? It's so dumb,

529
00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:16.680
especially in a situation like that where the dude's mom passed,

530
00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:17.480
like so stupid.

531
00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:21.000
Yeah yeah, it's like, what what do you hope to gain?

532
00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:22.079
Yeah, it's dumb.

533
00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:23.680
What do you hope to gain? You get to hurt

534
00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:26.480
another human being for who has never done anything to you.

535
00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:28.640
Yeah, the best thing this guy could come is go

536
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:31.319
on TikTok and give a real apology now and make

537
00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:32.440
it heartfelt, you little fuck.

538
00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:33.039
Yeah.

539
00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:34.319
Yeah it sucks.

540
00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:36.279
I mean I thought I thought it was bad the

541
00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:38.359
other day. It was about a week or so ago

542
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:43.599
when a fan fan in San Francisco threw a ball

543
00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:47.920
on the field during during play trash and there's actually

544
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:51.359
a video came out that's showing him doing it. You

545
00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:54.200
think you're not gonna get caught, yeah, which of course happened,

546
00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:58.880
right Uh, And I thought that that's that's bad behavior

547
00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:01.359
in that person is probably banned from every ballpark for

548
00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:04.359
life being an idiot, and he was again a young

549
00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:07.799
dude being an idiot. It's like, maybe don't be an idiot.

550
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:09.880
That's a I mean, you go and I get it, Like,

551
00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:11.759
you know, I think it was eight years ago or

552
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:15.079
twelve years ago, Argentina played Brazil in Brazil and yeah,

553
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:18.200
there's fucking cups getting thrown like every piece of trash.

554
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:20.559
Imagine while getting thrown at the Argentina team walking out

555
00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:23.000
the tunnel, Like I get it. And even that, not

556
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:25.240
that I think it's good. That's not as bad as

557
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:27.680
personally talking about a dude's mom, you know, like, what

558
00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:30.599
the fuck are you doing? Yes, trash, Yeah, they're just.

559
00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:33.960
They're just just not justifiable at all, not even a

560
00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:40.519
little bit. Ryan Johnson, Yeah, uh, flashing back to the

561
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:46.319
previous conversation. But part of the conversation. I am a

562
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:51.039
friend of mine who I will identify, met a politically

563
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:53.839
adjacent figure who will I also not identify, but you

564
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:58.240
know who I'm talking about. And I and we like

565
00:26:58.359 --> 00:26:59.839
ask him, like, what's he like? And he said, I

566
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:04.920
he seems like he's suppressing the urge to have a

567
00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:10.440
violent outburst every few seconds. It's like that's that's not

568
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:15.799
mentally healthy, And I don't know how somebody sustains a

569
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:17.519
personal image.

570
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:22.160
Yeah, that's credible. If that's the case, I'd imagine that's

571
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:24.519
the case of ninety nine percent of anyone in a

572
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:28.319
higher up political position in modern day. Maybe. So you know,

573
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:30.400
like back in the day, you're doing shit Like now

574
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:34.359
you're just a fucking puppet for whatever party, just playing

575
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:38.880
games all day. Yeah, it's bad, it's bad. Yeah. I

576
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:40.359
would never want to be in one of those shoes

577
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:43.039
no more. I know, you know, like I like politics,

578
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:45.440
I follow it and the listen to podcasts and all

579
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:47.400
like that. But that's like my drama again, that's like

580
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:50.720
my degenerate side of things. Yeah, but like actually doing it. Yeah,

581
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:55.200
imagine everything you have to suppress, whether it's knowledge, feelings, thoughts,

582
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:59.279
if you even want to have a moderate thought, you can't, yeah,

583
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.480
because you got to be pread to whatever side you're on.

584
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:06.319
Yeah, whatever whatever pull you're pulling toward.

585
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:08.160
Yeah, whatever is going to get you voted in, you

586
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:09.799
got to say some crazy shit. It's kind of like

587
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:13.160
social media, honestly, right, because like and going about good

588
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:16.519
press bad press, you just need people to talk about you. Yeah,

589
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:18.480
And obviously it's not as extreme as like a liver

590
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:20.359
King take. But you got to say some crazy because

591
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:22.119
you say some moderate ship and now no one's going

592
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:23.799
to talk about you. You're not getting in the New

593
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:26.000
York Times, right, you got to say some crazy shit

594
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:28.799
on whatever party you want to be on. So then

595
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:31.240
everyone's going to talk about you. They've got to make

596
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:32.000
a headline and.

597
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:34.519
That, and of course that's polarizing, and then and then

598
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:37.640
the positions get calcified and know there's no middle ground anymore.

599
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.319
Yeah, now we're all fucked. Yeah, we're all fun for sure.

600
00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:45.200
So uh, I, you know, obviously wanted to talk a

601
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:49.920
little bit about men's mental health, you know, this month,

602
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:52.319
but that's it's an issue every single month. So that's

603
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.400
you know, Uh so what I did? I did? What

604
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:59.920
what what everyone does? I googled men's mental health documentaries

605
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:02.880
and there were a couple of options, and some of

606
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:06.160
them were longer, but I thought this one, which is

607
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:09.920
called The Voices of Men, and it's on it's on YouTube,

608
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:16.799
and it is it's very accessible. It's you know, roughly

609
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:22.240
eleven minutes, and it's constructed in a different way than

610
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:26.240
I've seen documentaries done before. In part that it's a

611
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:31.440
short documentary and in part that I for anonymity reasons

612
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:37.160
or for for whatever reason, you only hear the voices

613
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:41.759
and there are you know, other images on the screen

614
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.400
that are somewhat sometimes reflective of what's being said and

615
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.880
off and not reflective of what's being said. Just basically

616
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:52.160
like sea best listen to it and you don't really

617
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.119
need you don't get any the visuals to get out

618
00:29:55.160 --> 00:30:00.720
of it. I thought that that was a pretty effective approach.

619
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:03.200
It probably would have been more effective had we've seen

620
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.359
the guys sure directly talking. And this I must have

621
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:08.759
been done in the UK, because I.

622
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:11.640
Think it said like Manchester Film Festival or something that

623
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.440
suense about it, So I either it was entered or

624
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.160
one or something, so yeah, it does sound like the UK. Yeah,

625
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:19.799
I think it was probably just an artistic choice, and

626
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:22.200
I agree with you. I think I think it could

627
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:23.680
have gone either way. But I think it's still hit.

628
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:27.759
You know, it felt like it felt like a really

629
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:33.799
well done elongated TikTok, you know, which isn't like bad. Yeah,

630
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.319
because probably because in modern day again talking about music

631
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:39.599
and whatever else we were just talking about like to

632
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:42.079
get to get seen to get your message across. You

633
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:44.480
just want attention. And where does a tension line modern day,

634
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:47.759
especially for movies, it's not movie theaters and what you know,

635
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:50.519
it's TikTok and Instagram and that's how you gets your steps.

636
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:52.680
So if you're making a ten minute one, to kind

637
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:54.880
of make it like a good because some of my

638
00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:57.559
TikTok or whatever reels the same shit is like that

639
00:30:57.680 --> 00:30:59.680
motivational stuff, and some of it's good, you know, like

640
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:01.480
stuff they do like that you have a really good

641
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:04.960
speech over the background, and then the visuals kind of

642
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:06.960
have to do with it, but not directly, and you're

643
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:10.000
just seeing cool visuals also, So in that sense, I

644
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.640
liked it a lot. And and yeah, I think it

645
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:16.359
would be a coin flip whether seeing them, to me,

646
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:18.920
at least coin flip whether it's gonna be better or worse,

647
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:21.200
because it could go way better, but that could also

648
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:22.160
go way worse.

649
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:27.200
Way worse. Yeah, what the guys are talking about is

650
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:30.880
there whatever their particular struggle was with mental health or

651
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.559
has been with mental health. Some of it's PTSD, some

652
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:37.880
of it's being bullied as a child, some of it bipolar.

653
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.640
Even I think the PTSD guys, Yeah, and I think

654
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.039
he even mentioned PTSD prior to war. Yeah, because he

655
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:47.039
was a soldier who was enlisted and he was American,

656
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.599
I believe. Yeah. I think that there's definitely at least

657
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:51.240
because some of the stats they wrote up there, which

658
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:54.039
subus didn't see, probably were said the US, like us

659
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:55.720
is this versus the rest of the world or something,

660
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.079
And I think that's like again like being a good TikTok.

661
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:04.240
And I say that because, like mental health obviously is

662
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:07.039
something we've talked about over the years here, but it

663
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.680
is like a good reminder of how crazy some of

664
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:12.279
these stats are. And then it's a good reminder because

665
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:14.519
like I don't want to call it propaganda, but what's

666
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:19.039
talked about popularly is not that it's less important or

667
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:22.839
more important, but it's often talk about soldiers PTSD very important.

668
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.160
I think we should talk about that. But like PTSD

669
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:28.160
can come from other stuff, right, And obviously this gentleman's

670
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:31.200
was triggered by like a bipolar in life situations or

671
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:36.359
I forgot the other movie we did. I think it

672
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:40.079
was like the uh Psychedelics one, one of the psychedelics

673
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:41.759
one we did, and we were talking about their PTSD

674
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.039
because that lady. Remember the lady that like lost her brother,

675
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:46.359
her mom or dog, like all in the same year. Like,

676
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:48.680
that's gonna fuck, you're a lot up. Yeah, that's like

677
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:51.359
a lot to handle. Talk about sudden deaths out of nowhere,

678
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:54.440
and so like some of that I think was really

679
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:57.039
really good and not that again the other stuff is

680
00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:58.880
less important, but it's just talked about more.

681
00:32:59.000 --> 00:32:59.200
Yeah.

682
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:00.920
You know, of course, if you're going to war, you're

683
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.200
going to come back a little razzled. Yeah, and we

684
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.240
should try to help that and fix that by all means.

685
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:07.759
But to hear other stories of yeah, I mean, what

686
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:10.079
what did happen to that lad? Her brother got shot

687
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.000
and then her mom got shot or something. I think

688
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:16.359
her brother overdosed, then her mother roommate went crazy. No,

689
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:21.119
I think her mother killed her significant other and herself. Yeah,

690
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:23.839
and then the dog was scratching at the door yeah

691
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:24.319
yeah yeah.

692
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.240
And then whenever she would go to her house, her

693
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:29.920
dog would like scratch at the door because she's excited

694
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:30.799
or it's excited.

695
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:33.680
Yeah, while her out, and she didn't remember that. Yeah,

696
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:36.200
so that's why she did the yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

697
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:37.359
which is insane as well.

698
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:39.640
Good memory there, Yeah, that was good.

699
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:43.359
That was really good. Yeah, it uh but yeah, overall

700
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:45.319
I think it was really cool. And again, like I

701
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:48.039
think there's a good way, because what are the chances

702
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:51.200
someone goes to a Netflix and clicks on, you know,

703
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.319
two hour long male's mental health exactly.

704
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:56.599
Yeah, that was my thing because if the other you know,

705
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:58.839
the other runner up for this was when that was

706
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.480
about two hours long, I thought, I don't know if

707
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:04.640
I want to even slog through that like my I mean, sure,

708
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:07.319
it's I'm sure that it's good, but like on a

709
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.079
day to day basis, my mental health can be challenged

710
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:15.760
as well, you know, and it is sometimes too easy

711
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:21.800
to absorb the the downside of somebody's experience.

712
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:23.719
No, I think that's everything. Yeah, when we talk about

713
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:25.280
all the time, I mean literally, the clothing company is

714
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:28.199
called good company, and it's because like the energy you

715
00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:31.079
stimulus you put in yourself is what you're going to

716
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:33.400
reflect eventually. And so if you're watching those things and

717
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:36.119
just like the likelihood of someone scrolling and coming across

718
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:38.280
a clip from this on TikTok, which I'm sure it

719
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:39.800
was clipped up. I think it's what two or three

720
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.280
years old or something like that, It is much more likely. Again,

721
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:45.679
and if you want to get your message across, the

722
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.320
chance of someone's scrolling around and they see Batman Forever

723
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:50.679
or they see a documentary on Netflix, I'm probably clicking

724
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:52.760
Batman Forever, you know, like that's just the honest truth.

725
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.760
And I like documentaries. But if we're trying to again

726
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:58.119
going back to I guess my original question of make

727
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:01.440
an impact with these important subject X is like just

728
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:03.920
labeling the month, going to do that? Or is something

729
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:08.000
like this. I kind of like that they went short form. Yeah,

730
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:12.079
snippets that hit yeah, both emotionally and just reminders of

731
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:16.280
you know, like males being double the percentage of females

732
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:20.320
that commits suicide. And we've talked about we even had

733
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:22.920
your Friend on, you know, we had Havoc on and yeah,

734
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:26.679
we've had many conversations about this, and I hope not,

735
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:29.320
but it's likely when you get into your thirties, forties

736
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:31.679
and fifties, you know someone that took their own life,

737
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:33.480
you know, and so these things start to hit a

738
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:35.559
little bit. A The first person I knew I was

739
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:38.079
twenty and he was one of my favorite, you know, students.

740
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:39.760
He was one of my favorite kids I coached. He

741
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:44.199
was fucking sixteen, you know, like it's just insane that

742
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:48.400
you'll come across it. But because the cliches get thrown

743
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:50.079
out all the time, but I do believe them, Like,

744
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:52.119
you don't know what other people are going through, man,

745
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:53.679
So if you can make a positive impact with the

746
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.320
hello or hey man, your hair looks good today, or

747
00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:58.559
you crack a joke, like, you don't know how far

748
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.480
that might go, and every interaction you have day to day.

749
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:04.559
And I think that things have kind of changed over

750
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:09.239
time too, interested in terms of you know it is

751
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:11.559
this is probably the safest time in history for guys

752
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:13.119
to be open about how they feel about shit.

753
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:16.159
That's true. Yeah, it goes back to the other stuff

754
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:18.559
I was talking about, like these braids and stuff are awesome,

755
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:20.920
and there's still work to be done, but we're also

756
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:23.000
in a pretty good place. Yeah, we're much better than

757
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:24.119
we used to do with all this stuff.

758
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:27.199
Definitely better than we used to be. We were watching

759
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.079
the show the other night that's said in the early sixties,

760
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:35.440
and there's this particularly poignant scene that they've built up

761
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.679
to for episodes and episodes and episodes where this guy

762
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:41.639
who's a he's a he's a vicar, an Anglican vicar.

763
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:44.000
He's not a not a priest, but a vicar.

764
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:45.119
And he.

765
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:48.679
He was a foundling, like he was left on a

766
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:53.039
doorstep and he was raised by another vicar and whatever.

767
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:57.880
And he finds out, you know, deep into his thirties,

768
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.880
that his mother had left a note for him with

769
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:04.079
his him in the basket or in the cardboard box

770
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.559
or whatever he was in and you know, really struggles

771
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.360
with whether or not he should actually read it, because

772
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:12.840
he could he could be disappointing, it could be crushy.

773
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.960
You have to but you're reading that, bitch, yeah, And

774
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:16.679
so like that.

775
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.320
It's it's a kind of a detective mystery, that cozy

776
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:24.000
detective mystery show. And he works with a with a

777
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:28.320
cop and he says that I need to know what's

778
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:30.000
on it, but I can't read it. You have to

779
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.239
do it, and so the friend has to read it

780
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:36.000
to him, and of course it's very emotional. But the

781
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:38.960
thing that got me is that he reaches out his

782
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:42.039
hand to his friend who just just read it, and

783
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.400
he holds his hand. Now, today there would be hucks,

784
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.239
but I can tell you that in the early fucking sixties,

785
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:51.199
there were not those kind of hucks. It didn't happen,

786
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:54.920
and I remember, like it was like a core memory

787
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:58.360
from you know, church as a kid, that that was.

788
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.880
That was the full length and breadth of the expression.

789
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:04.400
Most of the time. That's just so American, though I

790
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:06.639
feel like too, and obviously, as you said that European,

791
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:10.039
but like like Latin America. You know, you're kissing people

792
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:12.320
like we've joked about our what are like my best

793
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:14.599
friend's dad's a big Italian guy and in high school's

794
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:16.599
grabbed my fucking head and just kissing my face when

795
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:19.679
you know, like it's just like so uh yeah, so western,

796
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.400
I guess whatever. Guargentina, same thing. You know, I go

797
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:23.960
there in sixth grade and everyone kisses you on the

798
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:26.360
cheek regardless. It is a culture shocked to me being

799
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.880
in sixth grade, right, But yeah, in America, you're right,

800
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:33.880
it's been a fifty years of sixty years of big change.

801
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:35.480
Yeah, yeah, for sure, I.

802
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:38.199
Mean good and bad again because the same thing with

803
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:39.960
the social media and the politics we're talking about, then

804
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:42.320
it gets spread right either like you got to be

805
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:43.920
a dude, not even look a dude in the eyes,

806
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.079
only smoke cigars and drink whiskey or you know, or

807
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:50.119
you're gay, like you know. Like again, there's no middle

808
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:52.480
ground on this stuff. Yeah, there's no gray area, but

809
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:54.760
that's how they talk. Like if you scroll on reels

810
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:57.119
right now, that conversation is very prominent about like what

811
00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:59.239
a man is or like we need to get away

812
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.519
from this and that. And I agree obviously with the

813
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:04.440
middle ground because I agree with both, like, yeah, some

814
00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:07.400
dudes do need to toughen up nowadays. Again to my bully,

815
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:11.800
bullying being good speech, and then uh, the opposite, some

816
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:13.840
dudes just think they're too tough and like, yeah, man,

817
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:15.119
you just need to hugg a brower every once in

818
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:18.800
a while. Yeah, like yeah, put down the cigar and

819
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:21.239
just fucking it's okay you can talk about being sad.

820
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.960
Yeah, I think about this, this place, this gym is

821
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:27.599
being kind of the huggiest place on earth. I've never

822
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:29.920
gotten more hugs in my entire life than.

823
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:33.119
Should I grew up my every day bro shouly the

824
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:34.320
same people yeah, still hugging.

825
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:34.480
Ye.

826
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:37.400
Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. I think that's like

827
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:40.480
a bigger picture of just where the world is because

828
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:44.440
although we're like more connected than ever through the Internet,

829
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.800
social media and maybe you talk to more people or

830
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.320
get more impressions a day or more people's opinions. Today

831
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:51.840
you're further away from people, and so when you have

832
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:53.920
a real community, which we're lucky to have here at

833
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:55.840
Third Street, yeah, it's a lot more normal to do

834
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:57.559
normal communal things.

835
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:02.760
Yeah, Yeah, for sure. It's I find it very reassuring

836
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:05.760
that it's possible and that that you know, no, it is,

837
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:09.199
and and you kind of see like some of the

838
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:13.760
some of the people who are not necessarily have not

839
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.599
not necessarily been given the hugs from everybody who suddenly

840
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:18.880
like they kind of creep up on it, and then

841
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:20.800
it sort of just kind of happens, and then it's

842
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.159
then it's a pattern from that and forward.

843
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:25.000
Now. I think it's a beauty of sport, you know.

844
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:27.159
I think that's why everyone should do some kind of sport,

845
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:29.159
because you don't get that same thing. Like you could

846
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:31.480
have a dive bar that everyone goes to every single

847
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.519
weekend and everyone knows each other's name, but you're not

848
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:36.320
going to get that. No, you know, you can have

849
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:39.320
a whatever it might be. But there's something about sport.

850
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:43.000
There's something about like struggling together, having a commonality and

851
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:44.880
then obviously, yeah, the friendships I come with it, I

852
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:47.159
think is very important and going to be even more

853
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:51.559
important as we go forward here with Terminator taken over. Yeah,

854
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:54.599
with the AI, right, I mean everyone's working at home still,

855
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:56.599
everyone's on your phone still, Like, it's just more and

856
00:40:56.679 --> 00:40:58.719
more important to find a community that that has a

857
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.280
positive impact in your life. And not that you know,

858
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:03.679
you don't have to you can't invibe an alcohol and

859
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:05.880
things on your own time, but that's probably not the

860
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:08.039
pushing forward positive community you need.

861
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:11.199
Yeah, it seems like there's I mean, since the pandemic,

862
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:16.440
there's more social isolation, but at this stage of the game,

863
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:20.599
there is more also relief for that social isolation if

864
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:21.639
people pursue it.

865
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:23.400
Yeah, it just takes effort. You got to pursue it.

866
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:25.639
Pursue It's the biggest word is trust me. I want

867
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:27.679
to be at home. Yeah, Like I'm the most anti

868
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:29.800
social person in the world, but like I forced my here.

869
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:31.760
Obviously I'm lucky because it's work, so I get to

870
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:33.519
show up and see people. But even when I'm in

871
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:36.239
Las Vegas or traveling, like I consciously say, like I

872
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:39.119
have to do people once a week, Like I have

873
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:42.599
to go do something. Otherwise I would easily be happy

874
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:44.559
on my computer. And I understand that that is the

875
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:46.800
easy route. But everyone needs it, whether you whether you

876
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:47.920
like it or not, you need it.

877
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:51.679
One of the speakers in this video talked about how

878
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.639
like I want to get up and get out, I

879
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:57.480
want to do whatever, and I just can't make myself.

880
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:00.840
I think the real value of this thing is for

881
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:07.679
for guys and you know women too, to just not

882
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:12.440
feel like they're unique in the world in a negative way,

883
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.000
like I'm i a am I the only person who

884
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:16.960
feels this way. I'm not the only person who could

885
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:19.119
possibly care about what the fuck happens to me or whatever.

886
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:19.400
You know.

887
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:26.960
It's it's it's something that that that even if you're

888
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:29.480
not going through a struggle, you can listen to it

889
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.719
and think, well, I identify with that some I mean

890
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:33.519
some of that is me.

891
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:35.400
Yeah. I had both thoughts when I was listening to

892
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.239
it because of the speakers or the and hopefully they're

893
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:40.440
telling true stories and they're not just voice actors. Because

894
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:41.239
it felt pretty real.

895
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:42.480
No, it sounded pretty real.

896
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.360
Yeah, I thought so too, as I thought both routes

897
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:48.960
should be good and it's something I criticize both physically

898
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:52.840
in sport and in the mental health situation, where it's great,

899
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.320
we're talking about all this stuff, but as the pendulum swings,

900
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:59.719
now everyone's O c D, anxiety and depression, like right,

901
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:03.599
where if you hopefully hopefully you don't, and then stats

902
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:07.000
show that not everyone's obviously deals with diagnosable depression and

903
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.320
bipolar and whatever those words to get thrown around that

904
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:13.840
if you don't, every humans sad, but not every human

905
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:18.039
has depression. Everyone feels depression, not everyone has depression. Yeah,

906
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:22.000
everyone feels pain. Not everyone's injured, right, And so hopefully

907
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:23.760
if you you know, I hope you're not, and you

908
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:25.960
listen to this, you can relate and say, oh, like

909
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:29.760
I don't, actually I'm not. I don't feel that, Like

910
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.960
I haven't been stuck on a couch, you know, like,

911
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:36.079
and I hope you haven't. But then, like you said,

912
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:37.760
the people that have, like, yeah, I get that. And

913
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:39.400
then when he was talking about that, I've been there.

914
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:41.559
You know, I've literally not moved from a couch for months,

915
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:43.800
you know, like six weeks straight. I literally didn't leave

916
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:47.719
a couch. So yeah, both sides, I hope hopefully some

917
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:50.800
realize like oh, I am blessed to not deal with that.

918
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:53.639
I do get sad, but I don't know those depths.

919
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:56.559
And then the others that do know those depths say, oh, man,

920
00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:58.840
like yeah, I feel that probably like preach.

921
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:02.079
And I mean, it just didn't by way of any

922
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.519
kind of criticism of this at all. There was because

923
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:07.360
there was no voiceover or anything like that. There was

924
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:12.440
no distinction between the people who are depressed because of

925
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:17.480
situations because or depressed because they actually have a depressive

926
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:21.519
mood disorder and they have no control over it at all.

927
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:23.400
It just hits them, like, you know, it's like a

928
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:25.239
storm that comes out of nowhere.

929
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:27.599
If something crazy happens in your life, you have no car,

930
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:30.840
you're broke, everyone's dying, you get divorced, Like you're gonna be.

931
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:32.719
Sad, Yeah, situationally depressed.

932
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:34.960
Yeah, like you're gonna be sad, but like yeah, when

933
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:39.400
the storm comes and everything seemingly okay, Yeah, probably a

934
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:40.280
different conversation.

935
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:42.320
Yeah, yeah, but it was solid.

936
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:43.679
I thought it was solid. You know. It's hard to

937
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:46.239
rate stuff like this, right, Yeah, I know, I just

938
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:49.239
because it has like such a real purpose, and I

939
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:51.360
think and I think more stuff like that. I just

940
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.159
kind of thought of it as I sat here about

941
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:55.400
the short form because I thought, I was like, oh,

942
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:58.639
ten minutes, Like that's cool, and it's obviously, you know,

943
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.519
for a film festival time situation versus trying to get

944
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:05.079
into a theater. But I think more real short form

945
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:07.400
stuff like that would would have a good impact. If

946
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:10.760
I'm thinking of the extra positives of this. It was

947
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:15.199
solid and I think more people, yeah, doing the TikTok

948
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:17.320
Instagram because that's where attention is, you know, then we

949
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:19.800
can make some hopefully real changes and help some folks.

950
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:23.519
Yeah, there's I don't know if you're aware of the

951
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:28.360
comedian Steve Hofstetter. One of his friends was dying of

952
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.719
cancer and he's who's a comedian too, but had not

953
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:34.119
you know, it didn't have the success on the same level.

954
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:36.840
And he brought him in to do some shows and

955
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:39.039
they actually like talked about the fact that he was

956
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:42.000
terminally ill and we're able to joke about it and stuff,

957
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.280
and it was like that, Actually, I found that very impactful.

958
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.639
Yeah, what's it funny? People have you seen that? I

959
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:52.400
have not? It's Adam Sandler and Rogan in them and

960
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:55.400
so Seth Rogan that is and so when you know,

961
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:58.079
you see the cover and you're like another like stoner film,

962
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:00.960
but it's basically about that, and I think it's really good,

963
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:03.119
Like it has really funny moments, but it's still like

964
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:05.679
actually good. Yeah, like they're still like trying to go

965
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:07.639
like you know, be famous, bang ticks or whatever. Like

966
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:10.400
there's side quest, but the story itself, I think is

967
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:11.880
a really good movie for Adam Sandler.

968
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:16.679
You have any reflections or sea baths m I think

969
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:21.159
he has hit it like on the nail. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

970
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:21.840
it was.

971
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:24.559
I thought it was pretty good. Yeah, very like insightful.

972
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:27.000
There was one comment that I saw. I think it

973
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:28.320
was kind of like the same thing that you said,

974
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:31.039
where it was like the guy that was saying that

975
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:35.960
he like how depression kind of feels is like you

976
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:39.159
see your friends outside and you want to go outside,

977
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:41.800
but you literally can't open up the door, Like yeah,

978
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:44.440
yeah you just can't. I'm just like damn. Yeah, just

979
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:47.760
imagining that it is crazy. Yeah yeah, or even like

980
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:52.079
going through that sucks in general. Yeah for sure, Hey

981
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:53.559
she got a man, not just.

982
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:55.000
Kidding, grab your.

983
00:46:57.519 --> 00:46:58.199
Just mess it around.

984
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:03.559
Yeah, but easy watch on YouTube. I'm surprised, was it

985
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:09.840
Andy Schultz to tie all these comedians in short form

986
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:12.880
in was he the first one? I think Netflix wouldn't

987
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:16.840
allow his shit, so he went full release YouTube. I

988
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:18.559
think he was real special.

989
00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:20.480
If he wasn't the first, he was one of the first.

990
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:21.960
Yeah, Like I'm sure other people have done it, but

991
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:23.400
he was like the first one to do like full

992
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:28.079
production Netflix style and released it on there. I'm surprised

993
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:31.880
more documentaries haven't made that. And although we've watched some

994
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:36.840
on documentaries on YouTube, they're not like well done. Not

995
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.159
referring to this one, but like you know, the skateboard one. Yeah,

996
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:43.599
they're just like not like docs. But if you make

997
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:46.920
it a hitter and get a sponsor or two, you

998
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:48.960
could probably make your money back. Like I don't know

999
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:51.239
what Netflix is paying documentaries, you know, to buy them

1000
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:55.559
or whatever, but like an hour video when you're getting

1001
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:58.320
a hundred k views, like you're making some cash, and

1002
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:01.880
documentaries are obviously the lowest legit you know, content versus

1003
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:04.960
a Marvel or whatever the fuck. So I wonder if

1004
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:06.599
that I hope that's a trend.

1005
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:08.880
You have, like your video documentaries where it's like a

1006
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:10.559
dude just kind of set up like this.

1007
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:12.880
Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot of those more

1008
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:18.199
like uh yeah, like social media expose a's on like

1009
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:22.280
a social media guy, and those are solid. Yeah, they're solid,

1010
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.840
but like an actual Yeah, what was the one we

1011
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:27.400
watched previous to this, Yeah, the Psilocybin one. Oh, even

1012
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.480
the breafarv one. You shoot it like that on a

1013
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:33.639
topic you want and you eat it onto YouTube. I

1014
00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:34.639
think that's the future.

1015
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:36.199
I wonder if that's what they're doing with the Sea

1016
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:36.639
bum one.

1017
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.360
I ope, so, but I think it's generation iron. So

1018
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:41.119
I bet that they always go pay wall or they

1019
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:43.639
try to do DVD shits. I just feel like it

1020
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:45.960
has so much potential and I feel like everything's head

1021
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:49.119
in that way. We've talked about it lightly where Netflix

1022
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:51.599
has dabbled into and not that that's free, but it's

1023
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:53.480
close to free. It's as close to free as we

1024
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:57.400
can get. They've dabbled in in the sports realm. Now

1025
00:48:57.559 --> 00:48:59.719
UFC is talking to Netflix to go full time there,

1026
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:03.119
like pay per views dying, and so I wonder if

1027
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:05.280
if I just feel like documentary is the perfect thing

1028
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:08.360
to be highly produced and y eat on YouTube probably

1029
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:11.320
make some money if you wanted, and still put out

1030
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:13.119
a really good piece. It would probably go that way though,

1031
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:15.960
because it's gonna get lost on Netflix. Like I feel

1032
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:17.880
like if even if you make a sick documentary, Like

1033
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:20.519
we like documentaries, want to talk this, and we just

1034
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:22.679
like them, but I don't feel like the world really

1035
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:24.880
watches them like that. You know, they're waiting for the

1036
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:28.280
next you know, love killer movie or whatever the fuck.

1037
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.280
You know, they just want I Love Island. Yeah, they're

1038
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:32.320
waiting for the next Love Island dog shit on Netflix.

1039
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:34.920
Like that's why people buy Netflix. Yeah, where where you

1040
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:38.880
could find a niche better? In YouTube? Yeah, that's what

1041
00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:41.559
I would do. All my documentary directors that are listening,

1042
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:43.440
I would make a banger and throw it on YouTube

1043
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:45.800
and do do all the marketing, like fucking throw clips

1044
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:49.280
everywhere and pay little ads or whatever. You know. But

1045
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:50.880
I think you can make a move and still make

1046
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:54.840
money and make something dope because it's just rare. Sports.

1047
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:57.320
Sports dogs and animal dogs are like the only ones

1048
00:49:57.360 --> 00:49:59.079
that get money behind them. I feel like, yeah, I

1049
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:01.360
think that's true, which sucks, and I love sports and

1050
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:04.079
I love animal dogs like Planarious my shit, But yeah,

1051
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:06.760
I just feel like there's cooler things to do. I agree,

1052
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:10.079
go make movies, folks. New episodes every Wednesday. Thirstree barbe

1053
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:12.880
sucking on california'lleere there, And I'm telling Mike I'm a

1054
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:14.239
Sebasst underscore brand, b on.

1055
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:17.000
Ig, I am Attheesia McDean all the social media. This

1056
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:18.840
show has fifty percent facts for a percentage of the word,

1057
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:20.880
and fifties just numbers. Fifty percent facts is a speaker

1058
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:23.840
Prime Podcast association with our media on the obscure celebrity

1059
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:25.840
didn't work. I We'll talk you next time and take

1060
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:27.079
care of your mental health. Guys.

1061
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:28.840
Yeah, go see what's uping with fr