Sept. 25, 2025

Things that make dieting hard (plus some influencers who are getting it right)| Guest: Jerry Molinero

Things that make dieting hard (plus some influencers who are getting it right)| Guest: Jerry Molinero
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Jerry Molinero, one of our trainers here at Third Street Barbell, joins to talk about losing over 100 lbs and some of the habits, foods, and situations that make dieting harder.  

We also discuss a few influencers we think are getting it right on social media.  

You can find him on Instagram @jerrykilos https://www.instagram.com/jerrykilos

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And we're in and we're in the studio because I've

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been lately, you have done a lot of shows from

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home because I'm talking to people remotely. But today I'm

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talking to Jerry, who is one of our trainers here

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at the place at through Subarbo.

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Hi, guys, I'm Jerry.

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Oh no, no, I didn't know we were going to

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get speedy. Wait a minute, yo, blame me some speedy Gonzales.

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You know what I'm talking about. That's uh, that's you

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know the voice. It's like, yeah, just like that.

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Absolutely, Yes, culture, the culture, and we take pride in

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speeding Onzalez.

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We just got canceled.

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We take pride and we love them.

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Good good, good kid good. I asked Cherry to come

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in and talk about because we're both on extended weight

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loss journeys at the moment, and he's wearing an ALI

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T shirt today to go with the Ali poster that

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we have behind him here, and to talk about a

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couple of things. One of them is what makes it

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difficult to lose weight. This is like, I think we

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can talk generally and we can talk specifically about ourselves

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what we are challenged with, and then I want to

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talk a little social media. So, uh, I will kick

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it off a little bit and I'll sort of ask

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a question, do you have a craving thing?

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At this point and the cut, I think I've gotten

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over that hill. And then just for the viewers to

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a little context, I'm seven weeks into like a twelve

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month cut.

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At the very beginning of it, the cravings.

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Were pretty strong, yeah, because once you was, I went

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down from eating pretty hardy. I would say, like my

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maintenance was pretty high up there, and I was kind

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of just like I was eating clean.

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I wasn't eating anything crazy, but like if I craved.

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Like some ice cream, I'd go get some ice cream right,

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Like I was eating at that kind of rate.

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And so to immediately cut all of that.

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Out for the start of the cut, where I just

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ate the meals that I had allocated for myself and

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nothing more. I would find myself wandering to the fridge,

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opening it up.

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And just to see, like, like that looks pretty good.

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But at this point I would say, that's all kind

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of gone now and I don't have.

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Those same cravings anymore. I feel like it was kind.

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Of a hill that I got over, and at this

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point in the cut is just very focused. I eat

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my meals as if they were just another task to complete.

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It's very like bleak in that sense, like is enough.

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There's no pleasure that comes with eating, right, It's just

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another thing to do, another thing to check off for

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the day, and that's it. That's all I my body knows,

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it understands that that's all we're gonna eat. There's nothing extra,

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there's no snacking, there's no there's no cravings left to chase.

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But when I am like eating more for like maintenance

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or if I was going up and wait, like when

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I was bulking, if I was craving something, I would

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I would go get it.

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You just destroy it. Yeah, for me, I don't usually

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like crave specific things, even if it's like right in

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front of me or whatever, and that's like just kind

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of from jump for whatever. But what I crave is

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the kind of haphazard incidental eating I used to do. So,

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Like if I went to the store for something, I

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would think, geez, i'm I would I not be upset

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by a salty, crunchy thing, And then the what you

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want is like it's like this much crunchy salty thing

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you want, like a little bit you want like, you know,

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a few ounces of whatever. Yeah, but what you have

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to buy is all the bag. Yeah. And like even

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even finding like the lunch sized bags, it is hard.

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To do, right yeah, So like you'll notice it with

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like chips, right, you see the family sized bag more

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often than the little ones because the little ones will

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be hidden. Now if you go to the store, Yeah,

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and you want like the little dollar bags like back

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in the day used to be like a dollar, those

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are hidden.

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to find them.

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At the front they'll have the big family sized bags now.

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And it's all it's all on purpose. It's all yeah,

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curated to keep us fat. Yeah yeah.

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Yeah, and so like I would, I would buy a

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whole bag of something and tell myself I was not

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going to eat you know, much of it. It's always

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a lot, yeah, I know. And like and and I

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I miss doing that kind of eating while driving because

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driving is boring. Yeah right, that's amazing.

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That's an amazing time right there.

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Yeah, like oh my god, pretzels all your you know,

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you can't use the stick pretzels because you'll get caught

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in your throat and you'll you'll die and you'll die

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on the road. Yeah.

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But well, yeah, Like as someone who coming from the

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career that I was in, I did a lot of commuting,

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and that's probably what led to me getting so heavy.

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At my heaviest was I was doing.

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A lot of commuting from here to the Bay Area,

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and that's like two hours each way, sitting in your car,

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super boring. One of the ways you would stay awake

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is by snacking, and so like on my little routine

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every day, I'd stop by the gas station in the morning,

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I'd grab a bunch of snacks, and then on the

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way home, I'd stop at a gas station, grab a

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bunch of snacks, and.

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You just be chomping on them all two hour long

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for the whole drive, right.

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Yeah.

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And if you sit there and you look at every

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like item that you got from the from the gas station,

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you add up all those calories, It's insane how much

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how dense that food is.

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Yeah, And you know, sometimes even when you know, you

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goes back to you tell yourself that you're not gonna

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consume the whole thing, and then and then you.

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And then you blink and you can Yeah. Yeah.

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I always use sour Patch kids as like the shout

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out sour Patch kids. As the example where those bags

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you get at the gas station if you if you

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do it, like the bag will say three hundred calories

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or whatever, but there's ten servings in the bag, So

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that's three thousand calories in the bag in the bag,

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and nobody thinks about it until they're like, you'll finish

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that bag in one city.

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Yeah. Uh. The one that used to get me all

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the time because it sounds like it's not to be

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a bad thing is skinny pop popcorn because it comes

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in an enormous, like king sized pillow kind of bag,

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and uh, I would start eating it. And I love popcorn.

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And though it is not very caloric if you stick

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to the serving, it's wildly cloric. If you eat the

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entire wow, and you know, like you're oh well, and

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you're sort of constantly measuring how much is still in

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the bag, it's like, okay, well.

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Like I can keep going another hand.

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Yeah, yeah, it's just hey, that bag is still heavy,

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you know what I mean. It's there's a lot.

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Of hand bill maybe it's.

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Pop it's popcorn. And then you get down to the

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you know, the parts where it's all the broken pieces

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and crumbs and yeah, and all the all the busted

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shells when you're holding and hold the backup over your face. Yeah,

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and just like and then you just rain popcorn ship everywhere. Yeah,

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that's yeah.

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It gets had a hand quick. I think our bodies

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have been indoctrinated to to not say no to an

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excess of food. I'm sure in older generations when they

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didn't eat as much, like because if you go and

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I've seen it in like foreign countries where they don't

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have access to as much readily available food, they get filled,

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they get full faster like.

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After their meals, they feel full, they feel.

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Satiated, versus here like after a big, big dinner, big lunch,

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you're like, oh, now I need a sweet tree. Now

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I need something and want something to top it off, right,

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And meanwhile you just ate like two thousand calories worth

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of of steak and potatoes or whatever you had for

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lunch or dinner, and then you go get another eight

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hundred calories worth of ice cream and cookies and you

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add it all up and that's that's that's the calorie

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yield for like a week's worth of food in a

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single meal.

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Yeah, and you know, for for me, like, I'm four

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plus months into this and and just now, just now

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is that like oh wow, I really miss being able

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and and eat you were saying stay awake, yeah, stay

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awake or boredom you know those are It's just really

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hard to get through those those moments when you're tired

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and you and you want to sleep but you can't

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and or you're bored and the easiest thing to do

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to keep going was the munch on something. And now

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it's like maybe carrot sticks or whatever. It's like it's

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like what is it? Would air? You know, I mean

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water that never works?

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I think gum had gum was a real real useful

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tool earlier on in the cut when I did have

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like the cravings and stuff where I would chew a

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couple of pieces of gum just to keep the mouth busy, right,

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Like it kind of tricks you into thinking like, oh

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I am doing something, especially for the boredom bit of it.

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It keeps you active, It keeps you doing something, like

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you're conscious that that you're chewing the whole time, but

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you're not really eating anything.

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It's just chewing gum.

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And then you get a little bit of flavor out

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of it. So that kind of satiates the cravings a

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little bit. So that's a big one that I used

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earlier on. But like like I said, right now, at

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this point in it, like I'm pretty focused on it.

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I'm pretty locked in to where I don't really need

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stuff like that chewing gum every now and then, Like

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that's fine.

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It's still I keep a cup, you know, one of

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those like car cups come in the car, and that's

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usually where I chew it. I didn't usually chew it

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anywhere else.

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Yeah, yeah, it'll be onto the driver.

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Yeah, and yeah, just like it's the boredom is to

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stay awake. It's all that, you know. That's a thing

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I found challenging though, like what what.

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Do you what do you got as far as things

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that things that make it hard for you? For me specifically,

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like I said, like right now, it's not too hard.

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I'm pretty disciplined, especially this many years in the training

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in the gym and stuff and being a lot more

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controlled about what I eat, even when I'm on a

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bulk like.

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I'm not. I don't eat too dirty. I eat pretty clean.

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But when I was like outside of the gym before

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I got really locked in and really into it. I

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would say it was very difficult just to avoid all

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the processed stuff, all the fast food, especially like back then,

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like before COVID was like the peak of fast food where.

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Everything was super cheap, everything was super accessible.

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Like we joke about the dollar menu, but that was

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the real thing. Like the dollar Menu was a real thing,

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and it was super cheap.

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You could always pull into the.

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Drive through and for five bucks you had five cheeseburgers,

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just super easy to get, and that would be like

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a snack right between meals. Like if I was out

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and about, it's like, okay, I already had breakfast, I'm out,

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I'm a little bit hungry. Out Let me pull through

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McDonald's real quick, get a twenty piece nuggets and a

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burger and just annihilate that and then still go home

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for like lunch.

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What was your peak weight and when was that?

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I was three hundred pounds, like right before COVID, so

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like twenty nineteen, like late twenty eighteen, I think I

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was up at three hundred pounds, probably a little bit

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over that too. Three hundred was like the first time,

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the first number I actually saw on the scale.

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In your hotel. I am like five foot eight, and

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now you're under children.

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Now I'm under two hundred pounds again. I've been under.

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I've been like the lowest I've been since was like

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one eighty six, one eighty eight, when I was doing

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a little bit more powerlifting just to make weight class.

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But I've allowed myself to build back up and put

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on some muscle, put on some leaner size. So I've

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gone up to two thirty again, but I'm back down

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to like one ninety six today, so I'm in a

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lot more control of my weight. I can kind of

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go up and down as I will, like I'm not

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too afraid of going up anymore, but I don't cross

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a certain threshold anymore.

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Like two thirty I think is my.

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Cap because after that I do feel a little bit

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more sluggish, a little bit more fat. But yeah, three

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hundred pounds I cut down. It was a straight shot

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down to like the one eighty eight. There was no

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there's no bulk between that between three hundred one eight.

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That whole process was just a straight shot down. Or

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from three hundred to two point fifty was super quick,

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and then it hit like a wall, and then two

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fifty to like two twenty. It was really sluggish overall.

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I think it took me like three four years, but

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it was like, I know people can do it quicker,

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but I did it really slow.

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And I was.

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Building strength at the same time because I was lifting

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pretty heavy just being really active in the gym. I

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don't think I missed a single day at the gym

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throughout that whole process. But yeah, like I feel like

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I lost it at the rate my body wanted to

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lose it at.

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I think that brings up two more kind of at

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the same time, one of them being that it's harder

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to lose weight when you don't have much weight to lose.

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It's easier to lose weight if you have a bunch

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of weight to lose. Yeah, for whatever reason. I think

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some of it physiological and some of it's psychological.

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Yeah, I think definitely physiological.

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Like like right now, we can use my cut again

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as an example, like those first two weeks, I dropped

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like thirty pounds like I think we did in three

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weeks where I went from two thirty to two hundred

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pounds just quick, and that's probably a lot of just

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like dead weight, a lot of water weight. And as

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I get leaner, as I get lower in weight, it's

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going to be harder and harder to drag these pounds off.

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So now it's been like two pounds a week since then,

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like between two hundred to one ninety six has been

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kind of a grind, And I know that from one

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ninety six to the one eighties is probably going to

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be more of a grind too, because now we're not

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just losing just dead weight and water weight. All of

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that's gone. Now we're really getting that that that stubborn

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fat and potentially just leaner mass to lose.

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Yeah, And the other part of it is I think

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that they're one of the things that's that is it

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should be encouraging, but it's discouraging because you don't know

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because it's a it's an unknown and that's your body recomping.

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So like gaining muscle while you're why you're losing fat

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does not show up on the scale.

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No, it just seems stagnant.

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Yeah, it looks like you're not losing any weight, or

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some days you go.

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Up a little bit.

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Yeah, I'm just like fuck.

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It's like, damn, I've been starving this whole week, but

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like that number went up, you know why is that?

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Yeah? And and and you know, I think that that's

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the that's an achilles heel of the.

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Calories in, calories out kind of mentality.

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Mentality is that that sometimes you're shifting it around and

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it's on the it's just happening on the inside, not shit,

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that's happening on the outside. And like you would think, oh,

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you're burning X number of calories or whatever it but

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recomp happens, you know, Yeah, like I in four months

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lost nineteen pounds of fat, but I gained six pounds

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of muscle, and so I thought I should have been

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able to lose more weight during that time. Like the

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scale should reflect when you go in and actually like

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do a dexa or whatever, and you're like, oh, so

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that's what happens. That explains that. But it's frustrating if

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what your original goal looks like is scale.

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Weight, and I like, if I get an athlete and

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I've done it multiple times, it is very discouraging to

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people early on in their weight loss journey to see

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the scale not move, and so I try and avoid

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that with my clients, where I'll tell them the scale

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isn't going to be what's.

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The boss of our weight loss?

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Here?

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What I want you to focus more on is the

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weight that you're moving, like here in the gym with

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your lifts, and how you look in the mirror. Let

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those two things guide you more than what the scale says,

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especially early on, because it is very discouraging, because I

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know through experience right where early on, when I wouldn't

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see the scale move between like two point fifty to

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to two forty pounds, it was super discouraging because I

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was doing my best to try and lose that weight,

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but in my head I didn't realize that I was

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building the muscle at the same time. So now as

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a trainer, I try and translate that to my clients

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by not stressing them so much.

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About what the scale says.

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Let's just focus on getting those lifts up, getting on focus,

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focus on getting stronger, and visually they'll see a difference.

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And so if visually they see a difference and the

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scale stays the same, then what are you gonna trust more? Right, Like,

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let's not get depressed over the scale when I can

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be happy that, Hey, maybe the double chin's going away,

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maybe the love handles are flattening out, maybe my biceps

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coming through a little bit better, My cap, my adult

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cap is showing a little more.

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The scale might say the same thing, but obviously you.

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Look different than than when we started, and that that

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helps motivate people more.

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That keeps them.

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On better track to keep going, versus if they that

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scale and it stays the same for a couple of

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weeks and they start to kind of fall off the horse.

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Yeah, yeah, I know it's I it's frustrating personally, and

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I think it's just it's it's hard. It's hard to

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get out of that mentality. And you know, the question

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always the US see a million million times and it's

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been going on for decades is can you get stronger

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slash gain muscle while you're losing weight? And the answer

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is kind of can you get stronger build muscle while

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you're losing fat? The answer is absolutely absolutely, And so

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there's those caveats, right, Yeah, And it just goes comes

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down to asking the right question. And if you're you know,

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if you're in a severe calorie restriction, you're probably gonna

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lose muscle and fat. And it just depends on how

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fast you want to go. I've never lost thirty pounds

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in a short period of time, and all I I

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really wanted to lose was thirty forty pounds, and I'm sitting,

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you know, having lost twenty ish and it just keeps

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keeps bobbing around in that you know, little wave, and

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my weight is notoriously sticky anyway. So I'm saying that,

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although I know the recomp thing is happening, I'm still

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frustrated because I would, you know, I would like to

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be able to look at the scale and see it move.

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That's yeah, And like I said, that's that's just like

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a big mental thing to get over, right. Then that's

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very individual dependent as someone like yourself or me who's

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been kind of in the fitness industry a little longer,

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Like I said, with myself, that was a difficult thing too,

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not seeing the scale move. Where we didn't have people

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like how I how I tell my clients now, where

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we're like, we're not focused on the scale. When I

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was up, when I was younger, especially like in high

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school and stuff, the scale was like that's what matters,

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that's what that's what dictates everything. If you don't weigh

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this much, you're not doing anything. If you're not losing

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or gaining X amount of pounds a week, then you're

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not doing anything versus now. I think the mentality hash

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shifted a little bit to where it's like, Okay, we

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understand what recamping is. We understand that muscle is a

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lot denser than fat, So the scale might go up

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a little bit if but you're building a lot more muscle,

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you're building a lot more strength, you're physically leaning out,

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but you might be at the same weight for a

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little while longer.

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Or really long time. Speaking personally, it can be a

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really long time. Yeah, and yeah, it's.

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Yeah.

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Another one I think that a lot of people face

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is any kind of like event, like a family thing

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or whatever that involves food, and you get like two

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voices in your head, one of them being you know,

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stay super whatever, you know, super tight, and the other

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voice is kind of well, like you need to have

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balance too, and you need to like enjoy uhha sometimes

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and it and even if you say, okay, so I'm

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gonna allow myself this much of an indulgence, this is going.

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To be a higher calorie day or whatever.

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And you know, there are some of the tracking apps

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and stuff that will let you do like a weak

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budget for calories versus a daily but versus daily yeah,

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which is a good approach if you can stay on

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top of it and you're not like you end up

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on day seven and you just can't eat it all.

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It's such air and water and you know, I think

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good thoughts. I don't know.

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With that in mind, it becomes very I would say

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goal dependent, like what is your goal in this phase

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of your dieting, in this phase of your training. Like,

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for example, if I've got someone who's prepping for a

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bodybuilding show, right, and everything and their mom is lined

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up in these last couple months where we've got Christmas,

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we've got Thanksgiving, we've got he's got twelve different birthdays

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all week to week to week, Right, I'm gonna ask him,

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I'm like, how bad do you want to do this show?

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How bad do you want to compete and be your

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best at this show? And then it becomes that mental

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battle of okay, what is the priority here? Is it

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balance or is it are we trying to win this show?

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So it's all dependent on.

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What those goals are.

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Where it's like, in that situation, I would say, let's

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lock in, bro, like, let's let's compete and win at

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this show. You can skip all that. There's gonna be

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more birthdays, there's gonna be more holidays. You want to

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do this show, you want to win.

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At this show. Let's lock in for that.

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Versus if someone's just you know, more of on a

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like a lifestyle diet where they can afford to cheat

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week here and there, they can't afford to cheat day

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here and there. They're not so pressed on losing fifty

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pounds in fifty days or something crazy like that, right

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where they're like, hey, you know, by the end of

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the year, I want to be a little bit lighter

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than I was at the start of the year and

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just be more a fit, more active. Then they do

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have that leeway to hey, I could for someone's birthday,

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I can go out and eat with them, or for

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the holidays, you know, I can splurge on the calories

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a little.

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Bit more so.

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To me, it's all very goal dependent if you want

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to be absolutely locked in like me, I've missed a

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few different events during this cut, and it was a

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little bit hard juggling that in my mind and feeling

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bad about missing them. But at the same time I

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had to remind myself that this is the mission at hand.

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I need to finish this cut. I need to prove

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myself that I can do it, and I can be

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very strict with it. So missing out on these things

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now isn't as bad as I would feel throwing the

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whole cut away by by indulging in an excess of

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calories for a few days, because that's how I would

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feel if I did break the cut for a night

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out of Korean barbecue or something, right, because the goal

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is to stay as strict as possible with it, versus

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if I was just, you know, on a casual cut

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where I had the rest of the year to lose.

474
00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:18.759
Twenty pounds or something like that.

475
00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:21.839
Right, then I would be able to give myself that

476
00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:24.960
freedom to I will go out this weekend or next

477
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:27.279
weekend or whatever it is and eat a little bit extra,

478
00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:29.079
not stress about it too much.

479
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:34.519
I think. Another one is if you're using a tracking

480
00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:39.880
app of any kind, actually being able to document what

481
00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:44.480
you're eating. If you eat home cooked food, it's difficult

482
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:47.720
to break everything down and be sure you've gotten it.

483
00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:50.440
And like you throw in the description of what you're eating,

484
00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:53.200
and you're going to get something that's packaged, you know,

485
00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:56.880
because that's what people are putting in and that's why

486
00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:59.759
how these databases form. They're largely just things that are

487
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:06.519
that you can buy places, you know, restaurants or Trader

488
00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:11.880
Joe's or you know, just national brands whatever. So it's

489
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:14.759
difficult to really know how much of whatever you're getting,

490
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:18.119
even even I don't know, even if you're cooking it yourself,

491
00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:22.319
you know, and you measure everything, you're not probably the

492
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:25.319
only person eating it. And so like, how much did

493
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:26.160
I get and how much?

494
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:26.559
How much?

495
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:27.559
How much?

496
00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:29.640
Yeah, exactly exactly.

497
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.200
I think that's more. I think that's super challenging, and

498
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:38.319
I think that the databases very in accuracy. I have

499
00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:43.680
used four different apps during this time in just trying

500
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:46.000
things out and see what what I'm most comfortable with.

501
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:49.200
I ended up back at the first one because I

502
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:53.920
can do like a daily daily budget versus versus the

503
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:59.880
same amount all the time, because I looked at it

504
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:01.880
Calory cycling and decided maybe that I was going to

505
00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:04.839
do that, and so I have been. I can't say

506
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:10.480
that it's been perfect honestly though, but I have the

507
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.440
same thing for breakfast every morning. It's kind of on

508
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:14.839
the carbeavyside, But like, I know my gut and I

509
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:16.960
know I need to I know, I need to have

510
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:17.960
like a lot of fiber.

511
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:20.680
Yeah, you need to feel up too, especially at the

512
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:21.319
start of the day.

513
00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:27.279
Yeah, And exactly the same proportion of stuff between apps

514
00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:28.400
gives me different.

515
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:29.440
Number, gives you different numbers.

516
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:33.920
Yeah, the one I'm using right now is like forty

517
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:38.440
five or fifty calories showing less than what the other one.

518
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.640
The other one was like, well the fuck. I mean,

519
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:46.279
it's the accuracy of the databases and you, I mean

520
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.680
you can look at the boxes or whatever. Yeah, but

521
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:50.640
and then calculated all yourself.

522
00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:55.680
There's you can absolutely do all the due diligence and

523
00:27:55.759 --> 00:28:01.880
back end work to give yourself at least a better

524
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:04.279
idea of what everything has, especially if you cook everything

525
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:07.079
at home right like you can you can learn and

526
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.839
memorize what calorie density of eggs and ground beef and

527
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:16.119
rice is per serving. And you can absolutely do all that.

528
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.240
But that, like we're saying, is that's not everybody's going

529
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:22.400
to do that. Not everybody's going.

530
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:25.400
To break out the little scale, break out the measuring

531
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:28.319
cups every single time they're going to eat or every

532
00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:33.200
single time they're going to cook their prep. And that

533
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:37.559
is a barrier to entry for clean eating.

534
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:41.400
And again, one of the things that makes it so

535
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:45.400
hard is all these other processed foods are packaged and

536
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.480
ready to go. They've got all the numbers on them,

537
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:50.359
so that gives people that kind of false sense of

538
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:52.920
security where they're like, Okay, I'm only eating X amount

539
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:55.880
of servings, which the box says is X amount of

540
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:59.000
calories because it's so much easier. Then I'm going to

541
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:02.119
look up how many calories, how much, what the macros

542
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:04.079
on the eggs are, and then I'm going to measure

543
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:06.359
them out. I'm going to separate the whites from the yellows.

544
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:09.119
I'm going to measure out an exact cup of rice

545
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:12.759
every single time I serve it. I'm going to weigh

546
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:18.000
out my potatoes and have the exact number of ounces

547
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:21.440
on potatoes that I cook before and after I cook them,

548
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:24.440
the measure out the oil that I use.

549
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:26.400
Like that's all. That all makes it.

550
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:29.240
Very difficult to do because it is so tedious, and

551
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.559
that sounds like an eating disorder it objectively.

552
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.759
Objectively it sounds like which to me is crazy.

553
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:42.000
Right, Like if I say that to people that this

554
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.079
is how I eat and this is this is what

555
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:46.359
I do when I eat, they think I'm crazy, which

556
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:49.359
should be the opposite, right, Like, no, Like what I'm

557
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.960
doing is actually a lot healthier, but the way it's

558
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.799
set up, the way we're indoctrinated to think about it

559
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.559
is it sounds like an eating disorder, like you're doing

560
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:00.000
too much.

561
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.240
Yeah, you're you're a little too obsessively focused on it.

562
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:10.599
And sometimes those are people who you know are actually

563
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:15.160
getting good results, but but they but they're not feeling it,

564
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.119
you know what I mean, they don't you know, they've

565
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:22.880
they've got a dysmorphia thing happening, even not just a

566
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:28.000
body dysmorphia, but like a you know, a psychological block

567
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:30.240
on feeling like they're making progress.

568
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:32.759
Yeah, yeah, yeah that.

569
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:41.799
Sucks, SeaBASS. You got any You strike me as a

570
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:46.279
guy who have who maybe was challenged by gaining weight

571
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.720
over time, by trying to gain weight.

572
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:50.960
So when I was younger, I used to be like

573
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.519
I think I was sitting at like two hundred pounds.

574
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:57.839
That was like younger, probably like before high school. And

575
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.400
then I just started working out and running in also

576
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:02.640
your gross spurt, so I just I got taller, so

577
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:05.920
I got skinnier, six.

578
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:08.480
D readhead.

579
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.839
So at first, yeah, I struggled with gaining weight, and

580
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:17.559
same thing. You just kind of read things on the

581
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.799
internet or you see like people on YouTube like oh

582
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:23.440
you need to just fucking eat, just eat whatever just

583
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.759
to gain weight. So I did like a dirty bulk,

584
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.519
which you just eat whatever the fuck. Yeah, anything from

585
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:31.839
like fast food to whatever.

586
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:35.079
That dollar manu, yeah to that dollar minion is different.

587
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:38.759
And then I got up to like two hundred twenty

588
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:42.759
and from there I just felt sluggish. I just didn't

589
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.400
feel h I guess you could see, like say, like

590
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:47.119
an athlete anymore.

591
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.200
So I started.

592
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.200
To cut down and then I felt a lot better,

593
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.200
and then obviously you you fall off, gained back, went

594
00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:01.960
up to two twenty, and now this time around is challenging, challenging.

595
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:04.720
It's not easy to take it off anymore.

596
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.839
I'm just sometimes the struggle is I struggle with the

597
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.200
just trying to bring the weight down. Same thing where

598
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.279
I look at the scale and I'm like, damn, that

599
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:18.839
weight is not going down, or my weight fluctuates a

600
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:20.640
lot where I can go one day I can be

601
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.079
like to eighteen, and then the next like two three

602
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:28.920
days after I'm like two fourteen. I'm like, what the fuck?

603
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:32.519
What the hell happened there. I've had swings of up

604
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:35.759
to seven pounds in a day in a day, and

605
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.799
it's like that's really crazy in the morning tonight, like

606
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:40.920
what the hell on top of that?

607
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:44.200
Like different scales? Yeah, yeah, different scales, and you're just there,

608
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.480
like which one do? You just start pointing out all

609
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:47.200
of them, like which one do?

610
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:47.720
I believe?

611
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:52.119
I think when it comes to that using regardless of accuracy,

612
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.799
using the same one consistently will give you a better

613
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.440
idea than trying to find the one that's actually accurate.

614
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.000
Two scales in the house. One of them is connected

615
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.039
to my phone. The other one is connected to nothing.

616
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.400
And the real that the real test for me is

617
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.319
when I get on the one that's connected to my phone,

618
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:12.759
because that like makes a record whenever. Uh. The other

619
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.799
one I can get on at anytime, but it will

620
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:22.000
vary from you know, three or four pounds between the

621
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.039
times that I step on it, Like, get on, look

622
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.079
at a number, get off, Get on again. There's a

623
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:33.319
different number. They're like, well, it's really really a roller

624
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:39.359
coaster of emotions because and and it tends to weigh lighter,

625
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:41.960
but it's not exclusively lighter.

626
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:44.000
Sometimes it's a little heavy.

627
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.200
Sometimes it's heavier than the other one is like you know,

628
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:50.839
and and and I get a phobia about getting on

629
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:51.720
the one that that.

630
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:53.279
Oh no, it's terrifying.

631
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:56.839
It is terrifying sometimes, Like I use the scale here

632
00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:59.480
and I use it first thing in the morning when

633
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:01.559
I get here, because that's like, again, you want to

634
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:03.519
build that consistency. You want to use it at the

635
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:06.960
same time, the same spot under the same conditions as

636
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:08.960
most as the most times you.

637
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:13.800
Can to keep it, keep it, keep consistent.

638
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:17.440
Yeah, And but some days, like I'll come in and

639
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:20.280
I'm like, like I feel I feel like it's gonna

640
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.599
be heavy today or I feel.

641
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.800
Like I'm gonna be off today, and I'll have that phobia, right.

642
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:28.840
Yeah, yeah. Do you have a trick to feeling like

643
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.079
you're getting an accurate reading out of this this scale?

644
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:36.440
Because this scale befuddles me. It really moves around a lot.

645
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:37.320
Sometimes it does.

646
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:39.960
But I'll get off, I'll wait a little bit, let

647
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:41.960
it zero in, and then just stand on it, and

648
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.440
then I'll do it a couple different times.

649
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.639
Until it's until it's consistent.

650
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:49.960
Yeah, because it does. This one does bounce around a

651
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:53.159
little bit a lot. Uh huh. So I'll just keep

652
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:56.000
doing it until I'll do it like if I do

653
00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:59.880
it six or eight times, you'll you'll get a good.

654
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:01.840
Have to get out of mind because I feel like

655
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:04.360
I've changed if I changed my mind to the weight.

656
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:05.400
Changes on it.

657
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:11.880
It's like up and down all the time anyway. I

658
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.639
think another one that really gets a lot of people

659
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:18.960
is looking at social media.

660
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:20.159
Oh that's huge.

661
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:24.800
That's huge because it depending upon who you're looking at.

662
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:36.199
You can get a real you can get unrealistic expectations.

663
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:40.079
You can get like a shame component if you're if

664
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.360
you feel like you're not like getting where you want

665
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:42.679
to go.

666
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.840
Yeah, versus the Europeers around you, even if it's not

667
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:48.519
like a big influencer, right, even if it's just like

668
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:50.320
your local community around you.

669
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.039
Say you started your weight loss.

670
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.519
Around the same time as someone else did, and they're

671
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:58.440
making these crazy strides and you're thinking to yourself, damn,

672
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:01.480
like what are they doing different? Or or like what

673
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:04.719
am I doing wrong? But you never really know, like

674
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:09.239
the circumstances, like they could be in a completely different space.

675
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:11.920
And you don't know what. You don't know what they're

676
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:14.719
what they're taking, what they're taking, you know, what they're doing.

677
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:16.840
You don't know what their CLOrk intake looks like. You

678
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:18.840
don't know any of those things. And they could be

679
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:22.280
like severely restricting your calories or whatever.

680
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:27.000
And yeah, they could be drinking water once a day, right.

681
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:29.400
Yeah, they could be Yeah, all sorts of things that

682
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:34.440
you know, they could be restricting not just carbs, but

683
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:39.159
restricting salt. So they're not like yes, water or you

684
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:43.679
know whatever. It's it's difficult. And and by extension, the

685
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:47.519
mirror is a problem as well, because you know, certain

686
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:51.159
ankles look good and certain ankles look awful, and you

687
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:52.679
know a lot of people talk about, you know, you

688
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.639
should take progress pictures or whatever because it's difficult to

689
00:36:56.639 --> 00:37:00.320
realize how much change there is. But if you, you know,

690
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:03.360
get on a dysmorphia track and you you're you focus

691
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:05.000
in on the things that are a problem and you

692
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.880
don't see the things that are positive. You know. For me,

693
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:11.280
like one of the major positives is like I have

694
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:14.400
veins in my arms. Yeah, crazy, And I did not

695
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.000
have them you know when this when this started, and

696
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:21.199
I haven't really had them very much before. I mean

697
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:22.840
some but you know, part of it is that I'm

698
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.679
getting old and so like I'm losing some of the

699
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:29.159
connective tissue in the fascia and so the mains show

700
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.599
up more. That's just that's just that's just a thing.

701
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:34.880
That's something I don't have any control over. But they

702
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:36.920
don't show up if I'm fat, so you.

703
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:38.599
Know, Yeah, No, it's still like a good sign.

704
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:42.000
So it's still a good sign. Yeah, but you know,

705
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:44.360
it's it can be challenging, and it's like you know,

706
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:47.639
when your how your clothes fit is a measure for

707
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:52.480
some people. Yeah, but you know you're going going back

708
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:58.320
to going back to the recomp thing. You know, some

709
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:00.559
things fit better and some things if it worse.

710
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:03.639
Yeah yeah, like if your shirts feel tighter up top.

711
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.519
Yeah, but your pants are getting looser than obviously you

712
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:08.119
know that's a that's a pretty good sign.

713
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:08.519
Yea.

714
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:14.000
The dysmorphia thing, I think is just a huge thing

715
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:18.719
in the fitness space. Yeah, where I feel like the

716
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:21.280
deeper you get into fitness, the better you get at it,

717
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:25.400
the more dysmorphia kind of crawls into your mind. Yeah,

718
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:28.159
Because the people with the worst dysmorphia I've seen are

719
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:32.320
the guys that look incredible, like show ready guys, super

720
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:36.079
strong guys, been busting weights for ten plus years.

721
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:37.960
They're the ones that have the.

722
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:42.320
Worst and most crippling dysmorphia on the planet, versus some

723
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.079
of the more younger guys that are just getting into

724
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.360
it right, Like they have that bright eyed delusion still

725
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:50.760
where they're excited to take take their shirts off.

726
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:52.000
In the gym and they're ready to go.

727
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:56.800
They're wearing the tiniest little stringers.

728
00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.679
And sometimes shouldn't be Yeah, and they well, I mean

729
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:02.480
it should shouldn't be that, Like that's a judgmental thing

730
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:04.599
to say. I don't really I don't really mean it

731
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:04.880
like that.

732
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:05.679
I'm not like that.

733
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.079
But you know, like they're not filling out these shirts,

734
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:13.280
right yeah, versus like very optimistic. Yeah, it's very optimistic

735
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:16.320
versus like you see the more experienced guys, like they

736
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:17.400
always have the four.

737
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:20.719
XL polo shirt on. Yeah.

738
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:22.519
Yeah, they're just like swimming in their.

739
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:28.079
Never showing nothing. Uh like Mike, right, Mike always wears

740
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:29.039
the giant shirts.

741
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:30.679
Yeah, I rarely show stuff.

742
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.880
I was telling you guys the other day because yeah, Mike,

743
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:35.480
you know, Mike is Mike is still in Texas and

744
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:40.480
other places and he's working with Agent zero and uh,

745
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:42.880
he posted a picture the other day that look, he

746
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:46.079
looks great. He looks probably as good as I've ever

747
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:49.119
seen him. Look, although the lighting was actually you know,

748
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:51.679
giving a lot of it. He had the goon lighting, Yeah,

749
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:55.519
giving a lot of grace. They call it.

750
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.840
That's what they're calling it right now, shout out Nick's

751
00:39:57.840 --> 00:39:58.840
strength and power.

752
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:06.880
Goon lighting. I had not heard that one. Yeah, But

753
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.599
when I first met him, you know, years and years ago,

754
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:13.280
like he was still in in in his basketball head

755
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.519
and he was he was wearing two shirts all the time,

756
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:18.639
and you had no idea like what he actually looked like.

757
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:20.960
And then once you see that he's even then he

758
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.719
was you know, he was skinny, but he was, Yeah,

759
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:27.119
he was carrying a reasonable amount of muscle. Like he was.

760
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:32.960
He was anxious for social media recognition and following and stuff.

761
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:34.960
And it's like, dude, you could take your shirt off.

762
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.760
You could take both of them off, you know, both shirts,

763
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:40.480
but both of them. Yes, you could take them off,

764
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.920
and you would in like people would go, oh, wow,

765
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.199
he's really you know whatever. And he was focused more

766
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:50.840
on on on you know, the strength part of it

767
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:57.480
and and the you know, in this the social cues

768
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.599
part of it. You know yah, and less on the

769
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:06.039
the actual esthetics, the aesthetics. Yeah yeah, So I mean

770
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:08.000
some someday when he's back, we'll have to ask him

771
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:11.400
about why that's the truth. But no, I just from

772
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:14.239
the from you know, from the beginning, I was like,

773
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:16.559
you could, you could do that, and you would you know,

774
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:18.719
like you could do that and a lot of people

775
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:21.039
can't and it's just.

776
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:24.320
Like not comfortable and that and that to build off

777
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:28.760
of that, right, like someone say someone that's a little

778
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:30.559
bit heavier, it's got a lot more fat on their

779
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.119
on their body, sees that on on social media. They

780
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:35.679
see someone like Mike or see someone like David Laid.

781
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:38.760
They see all the popular Instagrammers and they're like, damn,

782
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.000
like those guys look insane, Like I'm never gonna like

783
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:45.199
they look at themselves there, they feel like they'll never

784
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.559
achieve that, they'll never reach something like that. And uh,

785
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:54.320
coming from that point of view, I'm still nowhere near

786
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:57.519
where I would want to be. But I have look

787
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.159
I look back at how I look back then, and

788
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:03.719
like I've surpassed every limit that I had in my

789
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:07.480
mind back then to where I was like I'll never

790
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:12.079
be able to see myself look like this, or see

791
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:14.639
these kinds of muscles on me because I'm too fat

792
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:19.559
at this point. Now, like I've surpassed every limitation that

793
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:24.199
I had set for myself and then some. But no

794
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:26.239
matter what, like the dysmorphia.

795
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:28.519
Is always still there. It's always still there.

796
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:32.400
So one thing I've had to like force into my

797
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:35.440
own mind is like comparison is a thief of joy,

798
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:41.159
is to look at yourself in a vacuum. Block everything

799
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:45.119
else out. Just look at yourself objectively and compare yourself

800
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:49.119
to just yourself, And that way you're able to celebrate

801
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:53.400
your own achievements in a vacuum. That helps because now

802
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:56.079
you're not like, oh, well this guy got ripped in

803
00:42:56.519 --> 00:43:01.039
two years and he looks better than I'll ever look.

804
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:05.000
Instead of thinking that way, it's like, oh, I got

805
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.159
I got this fit in two years and three years

806
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:11.119
whatever it took me to to do it, and I

807
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:12.880
look better than I ever did.

808
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:15.760
What's stopping me from going further than this?

809
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:19.280
If I could have, if I could do three hundred

810
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:23.039
pounds to two hundred pounds, what's stopping me from going

811
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.280
two hundred pounds to one ninety super lean, super shredded.

812
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:30.920
I've already done this much work. Why would I stop now?

813
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:35.639
Yeah, that's likely when I got my my when I

814
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.639
did the decks a few weeks ago, and then I

815
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:39.840
saw what the number was, like, well, I could go

816
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:45.760
down X amount more and probably stay there even though

817
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:49.360
it's hard, but I accomplished this much, so I could

818
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.000
do you know, this much more and sticking there. I

819
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.920
think that maybe one of the Another one of the

820
00:43:55.920 --> 00:44:01.000
struggles is the difficulty and ignore that when you get

821
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:06.280
where you're going, there's a maintenance thing that looks nothing

822
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:10.239
like how you ate before or what your activity levels

823
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:13.599
were before. Like you're getting you're just like you're literally

824
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:18.280
committing to a different lifestyle before. You can't. Like it's

825
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:22.559
not like solving a problem where there's an endpoint and

826
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:24.519
you can and then okay, well the problem is over

827
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:27.639
and so I can do and it's yeah, it's just

828
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.239
it's it's it's kind of always and that I mean

829
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:32.559
you you hear a lot of different versions of that

830
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:34.599
if you see a lot of people say things like

831
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:40.239
that on on on social media and whatever, but it

832
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:41.360
is freakishly true.

833
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:44.400
Oh and this is like one of the tenants I

834
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:46.199
live by is to fall in love with the journey,

835
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:49.360
not the destination, right, because that's going to carry you

836
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:53.920
further because it is a lifestyle change it is it

837
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.280
is something that you're going to have to do for

838
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:00.320
the rest of your life. Like once you you get

839
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.800
to a certain point, I feel like it gets easier

840
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.800
because you do fall in love with that process and

841
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:11.000
you no longer look at it as work versus it

842
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:14.280
just being your lifestyle. But it is hard to get

843
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:14.840
to that point.

844
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.360
And two, as time goes on, you have to you

845
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:24.960
have to recognize when when your mindset shifts because of

846
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:29.280
situations changing, and then you allow yourself, you know, like here,

847
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:33.639
here's an example, Like in the couple of years going

848
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:40.440
into to twenty twenty, like I would have fast food

849
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:44.920
like two or three times a year literally just I

850
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:50.719
just completely avoided it. I like it, but after not

851
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.599
eating for it for a while, I hate it. Just

852
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:57.000
doesn't taste right or whatever. But then we started building

853
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.000
this place and COVID was going on, and you could

854
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.840
get it was harder to get things like you know,

855
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:05.639
chicken and beef from yeah, you know, and except the

856
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.159
fast food restaurants were getting that ship. And I was

857
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:12.400
working here, you know, hours a day, building the place up,

858
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.840
and I just started eating fast food again, and it

859
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:19.599
was difficult to stop. It was. It was very difficult

860
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:21.800
to stop, even though I had been very disciplined about it,

861
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:24.000
been very disciplined about a lot of it, you know,

862
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:27.800
and then and the situation changes, and like your outlook

863
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.480
on the world changes, and you just don't it just

864
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:34.360
becomes less important or you know, it's like, well, things

865
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:36.400
are difficult, so I'm going to give myself grace on

866
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:37.519
this or whatever.

867
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.159
And you'll kind of open the flood gates.

868
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:42.679
Yeah, And it's not not immediately. It's it's a slow leak.

869
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:46.119
And you have to think like the millions of dollars

870
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:49.880
as they pour into engineering the food to be that way, yeah,

871
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:53.840
to make you kind of hooked on it, And that

872
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:55.679
is very difficult to work against.

873
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:58.239
It is. It is like fighting an army on your

874
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.559
own right where if.

875
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:03.480
You have a couple a couple of weeks where you

876
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:05.559
have to get that fast food because it's the only

877
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:09.000
thing that's convenient, it's definitely going to grab you by

878
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:12.440
the throat again and really drag you into that slump

879
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:17.159
because that's what it's engineered to do. So I can

880
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:21.079
definitely see that where it does become difficult again. Just

881
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:25.119
slipping for a couple of weeks or whatever because it's convenient,

882
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:26.480
because the situation.

883
00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:27.440
Requires it or whatever.

884
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.119
It will drag you back down and then you have

885
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:34.639
to do the whole beginning phase of getting out of

886
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:38.599
it again and building that discipline up again because you

887
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:42.280
are working against these billion dollar corporations that pour a

888
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:46.880
ton of money into engineering. The taste, all the different

889
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:52.559
satiation feelings that that food instills in you, like anytime

890
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:55.159
you eat a burger, like you always want another one,

891
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:57.039
no matter what, like no matter where you go.

892
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.800
I don't have that problem. But it's it's the French

893
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:01.280
fries man.

894
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:05.880
Yeah, like the fries, the nuggets, all the little sauces,

895
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:06.719
nuggies do.

896
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.199
Not do it for me. I just noted. But the

897
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:11.599
French fries. Yeah, like a really good French fries or

898
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:13.920
a really bad French fry, I don't know, just French fries.

899
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:18.400
I saw a video somebody who did the other day

900
00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:25.320
talking about putting peanut butter on cheese, and like, my

901
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:28.079
weaknesses are peanut butter and cheese and I never have

902
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:33.679
had it together there. I wonder what that's like.

903
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:38.119
Now we gotta find out.

904
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:42.559
He's like, yeah, and today we're going to use some

905
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.800
peanut butter and cheese to test the theory about whatever.

906
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:47.360
That's a crazy combination.

907
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:52.719
Yeah. Yeah. It was like Landa Lake's American cheese singles

908
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:56.360
like yeah, just the pre slice ones and they just

909
00:48:56.400 --> 00:49:00.559
like pour peanut butter and yeah, yes, spread peanut on that.

910
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:02.719
I just I can't. I can't even do.

911
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:05.559
Not even a sandwich. It's just a slice of cheese.

912
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:12.719
And a slice of cheese. Yeah. Uh. Kind of the

913
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:16.400
last point running back to uh to uh dysmorphia for

914
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:21.280
a second. I feel like body dysmorphia is the physical

915
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:26.079
version of imposter syndrome.

916
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:28.079
Mm hmm. I could see that.

917
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:32.280
Yeah, I'd not really thought about it that way before,

918
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.079
but it you know. And and they say the new

919
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:40.679
the new thing imposter syndrome is that it's it's only

920
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:42.960
a bad thing if it becomes an obsession.

921
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:45.079
Yeah m hm.

922
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.400
But otherwise it keeps competent people from thinking too much

923
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:50.400
of themselves.

924
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:51.159
Keeps them humble.

925
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:54.440
Yeah, it is a humility thing. I think it is

926
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:58.639
like a like a built in safety that we have

927
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:00.559
in our minds to keep us kind and a humble.

928
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:01.760
Yeah.

929
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:05.480
Because if you do ignore that imposter syndrome and you

930
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:07.679
allow your ego to get too big, like it can

931
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:10.639
get out of hand pretty quickly. So like whenever I

932
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:13.880
have the imposter syndrome, it always makes me just reflect,

933
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:16.480
why am I feeling this imposter syndrome? So I'll go

934
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:20.400
back on whatever I'm feeling it about, reflect on myself

935
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:22.440
and see if I can improve myself any better to

936
00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:26.079
get over because if I have doubts of myself, then

937
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:28.239
they're there for a reason, right, So I kind of

938
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:34.719
utilize that to better myself. Dysmorphia being like the physical manifestation,

939
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:38.880
I can absolutely see that because it is basically just

940
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:41.840
imposter syndrome about your physical body. Yeah, where you look

941
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:42.920
at the mirror.

942
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:46.400
And you don't believe that everybody else what everybody else

943
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:51.800
is seeing in reality. Yeah, it's difficult. And my biggest, honestly,

944
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:56.079
my biggest thing with with imposter syndrome is back in

945
00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:57.960
the day, back and you know when back in the

946
00:50:58.280 --> 00:51:01.360
powercast days when it was so incredibly popular, like it

947
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:04.920
didn't seem all that real and then and I didn't

948
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:09.360
I didn't put a kind of enough of myself into

949
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:11.679
it into it. I didn't like I didn't pat myself

950
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:13.400
on the back and of and like it was and

951
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:17.719
honestly that that was kind of weaponized against me. You

952
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:21.679
know when people tell you you don't matter that much, like, well,

953
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:25.239
you know, fuck you, And but the fuck you was

954
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:26.960
not the first place you go. The first place you

955
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:27.320
go is.

956
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.199
Oh, you're right, yeah, yeah, you you fall into it

957
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:33.760
and uh, like I've had that issue with imposter syndrome

958
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:36.679
on certain stuff too. But again, like I said, like

959
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:39.800
what I learned to what I taught myself was to Okay,

960
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.840
if I have that feeling, let's see why in my

961
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:44.599
own mind, why do I have that feeling?

962
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:46.280
What do I doubt about myself?

963
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:51.320
Like early on, when I was doing photography, like imposter

964
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:56.679
syndrome was a huge thing to me, Like I would

965
00:51:56.719 --> 00:52:02.760
I would do mostly automotive photography, and people like love

966
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:04.840
the photos that I was turning in, but in my

967
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:07.760
head I always felt like they could always be better,

968
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:11.199
and so I didn't feel like I was giving a

969
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:15.719
good enough product or good enough showing of my talent

970
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:20.559
of my skill. And slowly I began to teach myself, Okay,

971
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.559
why do I like what is it about these photos

972
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:27.159
that I don't like even though the owner's telling me

973
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.199
that it looks great, that it looks incredible, that they

974
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:34.079
love it, And so I would instead of feeling bad

975
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:37.119
about it and allowing myself.

976
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:40.599
To be held back by it, I would use.

977
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:43.039
It as a chance as a reminder to let's reflect

978
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:44.679
and let's see what can I improve, what can.

979
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:45.119
I do better?

980
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:49.360
That way I can get over that feeling. I wouldn't

981
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:51.760
allow myself to think that I'm the best thing in

982
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:56.079
the world since sliced bread, right, but I would use

983
00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:58.159
it in contrast to that, I would be like, Okay,

984
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.119
maybe I should have shot it this way, and that

985
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:02.440
next time I'll shoot it this way, or next time

986
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:05.159
I'll use more more angles, or or I'll use the

987
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:06.079
lights differently.

988
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:08.760
And slowly I got.

989
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:15.639
To see my my own photos improve to myself and

990
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:18.199
then just getting the outside feedback, I was able to

991
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:22.119
appreciate that more. I was able to turn over some

992
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.480
photos they love it. Then I would feel satisfied in that.

993
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.239
I want to just feel the imposter syndrome where it's like, oh, like,

994
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:30.559
I feel bad about turning these over because I'm.

995
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.280
Not happy with them.

996
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:34.519
If the if the client is happy with them, then

997
00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:36.159
then I'd be happy with them.

998
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:40.400
Yeah. Sometimes, like I you know, I mean, the thing

999
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:42.440
I do when I'm not doing this is writing stuff,

1000
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:46.159
and and and I've real challenge with if things are

1001
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.239
coming together the way I want them to, you know,

1002
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:51.960
like I don't even want anybody to see it. And and

1003
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:55.199
that's you know, that's counter productive because it really it

1004
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:59.840
really messes with your timeline. Yeah. So I wondered if

1005
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.519
shof by by talking about just like a couple of

1006
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:09.280
of influencers, social media influences that we think are actually

1007
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:12.280
doing a good job. I want to start with a

1008
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:14.480
guy who was on the show a little bit ago,

1009
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:17.079
and that's Dan film and Power List Dietitian. I think

1010
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:20.039
is the information he puts out is legit. It's not

1011
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:24.199
It's not dramatically different from some of the other folks

1012
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:26.000
that I that I've been following for a long time.

1013
00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:29.760
I'm kind of leaning Lane Norton and Jordan Sayat and

1014
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:33.320
that folks out of this because everybody follows them, everybody

1015
00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:42.159
followers whatever. But Dan Filman, Power Power Liat Dietitian a

1016
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:46.880
good follow always solid information. He he he doesn't post

1017
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:53.039
anything that he can't back up, really and Uh, he's

1018
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:56.480
you know, I didn't realize until I had him on

1019
00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:58.400
the show that he's not the tallest guy, but he's jacked,

1020
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:02.320
and he's a legitimate powerlifter and legitimate us U S

1021
00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:06.960
a p L powerlifter, and so that's he's kind of

1022
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:10.480
my my first uh my first suggestion. Yeah, you know,

1023
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:15.639
I I followed him consistently for quite quite a while

1024
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:17.360
or so, who you.

1025
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:24.039
Got, I've got doctor Alex Tatum. Uh. I know Sebastian

1026
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:25.679
has been working with him for a little while on

1027
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:28.840
on his on the media side, so I've gotten kind

1028
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:32.719
of glimpses of what he does here and there throughout

1029
00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:36.760
Sebastian's tenure working with him.

1030
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:39.360
But like the stuff that I've seen, it.

1031
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:41.920
Would be uh so it'll be doctor like d R

1032
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:43.199
and then.

1033
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:53.239
Is either one of them him?

1034
00:55:53.360 --> 00:56:00.880
No, let me see all one word, all.

1035
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:07.320
One word, no dots. Social media is so strong, I

1036
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:18.480
can't find him else. No, let me send it to you.

1037
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:28.000
And he makes a like he's talking about the pharmacceutical

1038
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:32.440
side a lot more.

1039
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:36.199
In the way he.

1040
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:39.639
Talks about it from the videos I've seen, It's super

1041
00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:44.239
digestible for for just like regular people to listen and

1042
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:49.880
learn Like he's not over complicating things. He's using a

1043
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:53.079
lot of like references here and there that are easily

1044
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:56.599
relatable and just spreading the knowledge out there. And I

1045
00:56:56.639 --> 00:56:59.199
think we're at the point where the floodgates are open,

1046
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:05.440
Like it's not a secret anymore. People are using pharmaceuticals,

1047
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:09.320
they're using peptides, they're using gear. So I think the

1048
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:13.239
best approach we can have towards that is education, is

1049
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.920
making sure that people know what they're taking, know why

1050
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:19.159
they're taking it, know how to take it. Because people

1051
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:21.119
are gonna do what they're going to do regardless of

1052
00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:23.159
what you tell them. We've seen it happen time and

1053
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:26.800
time again. You can't stop it from happening. So the

1054
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:30.519
best thing we can do, I think, is to educate everybody.

1055
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:36.079
That way, we can increase the awareness. People can be

1056
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:38.760
a lot smarter about the decisions they make when it

1057
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:43.000
comes to this stuff, and not just throw darts into

1058
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:46.360
the dark and start pinning just random things here and

1059
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:49.840
there because some guy on a forum said it, right,

1060
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:56.960
Having educated fellows like this who know exactly what they're

1061
00:57:57.000 --> 00:57:59.159
talking about, who do all the due diligence and the

1062
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:04.360
research on these on these products, on these on these things,

1063
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:07.840
and putting the knowledge out there in what I would say,

1064
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:11.840
like Layman's terms, for for just everyday people to understand

1065
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:15.639
is a big service I think to the industry right now,

1066
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:20.960
especially where we're at, versus not having this knowledge out there.

1067
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:24.320
Now you've got seventeen year old kids just ordering stuff

1068
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:28.400
online and doing it all willy nilly, versus Hey, if

1069
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.199
they're gonna do it anyways, let's see if we can

1070
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:35.480
make it as safe as we can, Because, like I said,

1071
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:37.039
at the end of the day, you're not someone. If

1072
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:38.480
someone has it in their mind that they're going to

1073
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:42.199
go do something, you're probably not going to stop them.

1074
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:49.800
Yeah, that's that's true. Yeah, another one I've got I'm

1075
00:58:49.840 --> 00:59:01.719
gonna have to in. I have the problem of not

1076
00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:13.079
remembering his name ever. I only remember what his tagline is. Yeah,

1077
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:21.559
Matt West. Uh. He's got a million followers usually I'm usually,

1078
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:26.159
but I only recently discovered him, so so I'm I'm

1079
00:59:26.239 --> 00:59:34.960
leaving that open. He does a lot of food stuff.

1080
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:38.559
I've seen this up. Yeah.

1081
00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:41.719
Fox sucks. Yeah, he's also the Foxer sucks guy. So

1082
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:45.079
like sending people send him recipes or they send send

1083
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:48.280
him videos that have recipes in them, and then he

1084
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:52.039
will actually recreate them and and he'll like do them

1085
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:54.719
the legit way, but he also you know, does the

1086
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:56.159
to to either make him.

1087
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:57.800
Taste better or yah, he'll improve.

1088
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:00.880
Yeah. And and I've actually done a couple of the

1089
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:03.719
things that he that he you know, a couple of

1090
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:07.559
the recipes that he has talked about and had pretty

1091
01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:11.559
good luck with them results. Yeah. I mean, so the

1092
01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:16.199
easiest one is this like low calorie mayonnaise. It's like

1093
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:19.800
the original video used I saw that fried eggs. Yeah,

1094
01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:22.760
he used hard boiled eggs, which why wouldn't you do that?

1095
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:25.679
And it's like there's there's a you know, a teaspoon

1096
01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:28.719
of of oil in them and a teaspoon of mustard

1097
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:32.800
and and lemon juice and salt, and it's like that's it,

1098
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:37.880
and it's it's very eggy, but it's also pretty low calorie.

1099
01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:40.079
Yeah, and it's going to hold you down like when

1100
01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:43.639
you want mayonnaise versus having four hundred calories worth a mayonnaise.

1101
01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:48.159
And I'm not a big mayonnaise guy, but period. But

1102
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:51.280
the the thing that has kept me from like eating tuna,

1103
01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:57.960
which is like you know, obviously low car good fats. Yeah,

1104
01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:00.679
for the amount that is the mayonnaise part. Uh huh.

1105
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:03.719
They're like, well, if you can make the mayonnaise.

1106
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:06.480
In a healthier, a healthier way.

1107
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:08.119
And you mix it in with your tunic, just try

1108
01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:10.239
tunas it's the worst.

1109
01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:12.880
Yeah, I've been, I've been in the I've been in

1110
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:19.719
the struggle, nothing, nothing.

1111
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:25.960
So I feel very strong about what he's doing. Yeah.

1112
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:29.239
My only gripe with him is maybe this is Australian,

1113
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:31.320
but instead of saying bone up a teeth, he says

1114
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:31.840
brought up a.

1115
01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:34.960
Tight okay, boneapple teeth.

1116
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:39.559
Yeah, but he's jacked. He's a he's a you know,

1117
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:42.840
he looks legit. I don't know. I don't know. It

1118
01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:45.039
looks like he maybe does some coaching and stuff too.

1119
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.039
I'm not paying a lot of it.

1120
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:50.679
I've seen him come up a few bunch of times

1121
01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:52.519
on my for you page, and what I do like

1122
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.440
is he shows the process right, So he's not like

1123
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:58.119
because I've seen some of the food influencers where they're like, oh,

1124
01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:00.880
let's make a healthy alternative version of it, and it'll

1125
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:03.559
cut from like the ingredients to the finished product. So

1126
01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:06.679
you never really know if they're actually like using those

1127
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:10.559
ingredients to make that delicious bowl that they're making or

1128
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:13.519
this crazy smoothie that they're making. Right, it could just

1129
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.320
be some unhealthy monstrosity of ingredients.

1130
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:19.280
I particularly like that when he can say, oh this

1131
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:21.159
this sucks, like, yeah, it sucks.

1132
01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:23.079
Just honestly, I wouldn't need this again.

1133
01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:25.440
I don't know how to fix it. It's a disaster.

1134
01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:28.880
Run away, running, you got any more.

1135
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:33.559
One that I have is I don't know if I've

1136
01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:35.480
only watched a couple of his things. His name is

1137
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:37.920
James Smith. He's the guy that broke I don't know

1138
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:40.440
if he completely like was the first one to do it,

1139
01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:43.760
but he's the guy that did the creating gummy scandal.

1140
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:46.519
Oh yeah, and he like sent things off to the lab.

1141
01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:52.760
The brit Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah he's good. Yeah,

1142
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:58.800
he's he's legit. I back in UH a few years

1143
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:01.519
ago when late Lane Norton has to do podcasts I

1144
01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:03.480
haven't listened to yet, and I'm not producing this one.

1145
01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:06.840
I produced the last one, UH and and James Smith

1146
01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:09.079
was a guest on there, and I had not really

1147
01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:11.639
encountered him that much, but I was he edited that

1148
01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:18.599
episode and yeah he's yeah, he's really really legit. Yeah,

1149
01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:22.679
and he's like he's pretty grounded and honest in in

1150
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.920
his uh into social media stuff as far as any wickite.

1151
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.199
I I don't follow him in around and I'm not

1152
01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:33.440
an English but it seems like he Yeah, he seems he's.

1153
01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:37.480
Very well spoken, he's very well researched from like especially

1154
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:40.199
like the creating gummy thing, Like he showed all his

1155
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:43.440
back end work. He he wasn't just like throwing random

1156
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:45.400
lawsuits out and stuff, and now he did like all

1157
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:49.000
the backend work to really research the subject and really

1158
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:51.880
got into it. And I think he did a huge

1159
01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:55.519
service to the industry by calling it out because I

1160
01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:57.400
still have like friends that are a lot more casual

1161
01:03:57.440 --> 01:03:59.719
that'll ask me, hey are these gummies, like like is

1162
01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:00.320
this a good bye?

1163
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:01.239
And I'll telling the straight up.

1164
01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:03.199
I was like, you're just buy the powder bro like

1165
01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:07.079
it's not hard, just bang for buck, right, like you

1166
01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:08.320
just gonna get so much more.

1167
01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:14.800
Yeah, he's James Smith, just James Smith on on Instagram.

1168
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:17.599
He's got one million followers.

1169
01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:20.639
To start to get that, he must have started Instagram

1170
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:24.800
when it first James, he has been around a lot.

1171
01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:27.599
He's been around a long time.

1172
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:31.039
The most generic like name on the planet.

1173
01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:34.840
Yeah, like, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's like I I started

1174
01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:37.719
social media early and I couldn't get just my name

1175
01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:40.079
anywhere at that point. I also have one of the

1176
01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:45.039
most common names on the planet, especially in the in

1177
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:50.000
the Western world. Yeah, very very, very common. The two

1178
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:53.039
different spellings of my last name, or the third most

1179
01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:57.079
common surname in Scotland for having's sake, So that's crazy.

1180
01:04:57.199 --> 01:04:58.880
A bunch of versions of McDonald's.

1181
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.679
Yeah. Then, and there used to be a site called

1182
01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:03.719
how many of Me you put in your name? And

1183
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.960
you see how many in the United States, and it

1184
01:05:07.079 --> 01:05:10.639
was like sixteen hundred. Have the guys have the combination

1185
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:13.679
of my first name last name? Yeah, that's crazy. Not

1186
01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:16.960
middle named was a little smaller, but you know, and

1187
01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:22.800
I'm a junior or so what the hell? Uh anymore, guys.

1188
01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:26.599
I've got a like, I'll say, someone like Wesley Visitors.

1189
01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:27.960
I don't know.

1190
01:05:28.239 --> 01:05:36.760
He's a bodybuilder, classic physique spell for me, so Wesley.

1191
01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:41.079
He'll probably come up quick and then vissers that third

1192
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:48.320
one down, this one, no, yeah, the third one.

1193
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:50.920
That actually has a right under your keyboard.

1194
01:05:52.599 --> 01:05:57.880
That one, Okay, another mille following guy, But.

1195
01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:00.719
So he yeah, he's he's pretty big.

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01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:04.280
I would say he's missing out on the Olympia this

1197
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:07.000
year because he had like a big surgery.

1198
01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:10.360
But like I've followed.

1199
01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:12.239
Him on YouTube for a while now, I watched his

1200
01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.079
videos and he does a really good job at taking

1201
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:19.239
you through what it's like being like an Olympia caliber bodybuilder,

1202
01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:22.360
where he does like he did the whole what I

1203
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:24.880
eat in the day thing before a lot of like

1204
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:30.079
Instagram caught onto it. He'll show recipes like how he

1205
01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:33.000
preps is his meals and stuff, like his creamer rice

1206
01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:34.960
recipe I think was like one of the early ones

1207
01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:38.400
that got really popular where he showed it step by

1208
01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:40.639
step every ingredient how to make like the cream of

1209
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:42.559
rice that he that he partakes in.

1210
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:48.280
His positivity in the sports like, it's very.

1211
01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:50.519
Missed.

1212
01:06:50.719 --> 01:06:54.400
I feel like in the past few years where someone

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01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:58.360
like him who zero enemies right comes in very respectful

1214
01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:01.599
of all his opponents, very respectful of all his fans especially,

1215
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:07.639
always takes time out to interact with people, just like

1216
01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:11.119
a genuinely good guy to look up to for the

1217
01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:14.760
younger crowd, I would say, versus some of the more

1218
01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:19.519
toxic like influencers that we have out, they kind of

1219
01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:20.920
get too much spotlight.

1220
01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:22.719
I feel like Wesley's kind.

1221
01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:27.199
Of the opposite of that, where he is very deserving

1222
01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:30.119
of the spotlight because he does set a great example

1223
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:31.280
for everybody to follow.

1224
01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:34.199
Even through his workouts.

1225
01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:37.119
He's very like well versed in how to how to

1226
01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:40.079
educate people on them, Like he slows everything down. He'll like,

1227
01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:43.159
if he's explaining a lift, he'll break it down completely

1228
01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:48.039
for anyone to pick up on it. So like I'll

1229
01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:51.199
watch him when when I'm learning like a new movement

1230
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:53.880
or something, or if I'm trying something out, because like

1231
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:58.199
the cues that he uses to grasp the lifts mentally, like.

1232
01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:05.360
They're always really good and just a great guy. Bless you.

1233
01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:07.159
I just wanted to throw out just a couple of

1234
01:08:07.239 --> 01:08:10.079
honorable mentions just because they're there are a couple of

1235
01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:12.239
other guys that that are that are quite popular. I

1236
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:14.320
don't really need to dive into their stuff too much,

1237
01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:19.399
but uh, if you're looking for people who like to

1238
01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:23.479
call out other specific social media influencers about things that

1239
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:27.319
they say that are stupid, James Kappola is very good

1240
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:33.399
at that, and he's got a pretty good like he's

1241
01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:37.439
sort of balanced approach that he's not trying to look perfect,

1242
01:08:37.479 --> 01:08:40.880
he's just trying to be strong and look good. And

1243
01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:45.520
again had the body dysmorphia, the eating disorder, you know,

1244
01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:49.840
exercise bolima, that that kind of stuff before. And then

1245
01:08:49.880 --> 01:08:52.199
one that I have come around to lately because I

1246
01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:54.920
had some bias against this person is Zach Talender.

1247
01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:58.640
Oh Zach Okay, Yeah, I watch a lot of Zach.

1248
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:02.239
Yeah, I've I've started recently. Again. Another I don't know

1249
01:09:02.399 --> 01:09:04.960
what is to his follower count is it's a huge.

1250
01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:08.439
Egger Now, Yeah, he's.

1251
01:09:07.119 --> 01:09:09.600
Really he's really popped off a lot lately. But I

1252
01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:14.039
think his content has maybe gotten more personal in some ways.

1253
01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:19.600
Yeah, not as some would say cloud chase, Yeah, cloud chasing,

1254
01:09:19.640 --> 01:09:21.399
it's more Yeah, it's more genuine.

1255
01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:26.239
It's more genuine. Yeah. Yeah, like these people that do

1256
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:28.600
not need our help to create more following. But at

1257
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:32.319
the same time, like if you if you were turned

1258
01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:38.079
off by anything that he said before, you probably could

1259
01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:42.880
reevaluate now because it's good information. He's doing other stuff

1260
01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:44.079
that he's done before.

1261
01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:46.520
So that that's one thing I've liked about that because

1262
01:09:46.520 --> 01:09:49.840
I followed him for a while now, like throughout the whole,

1263
01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:53.680
like weightlifting, like Olympic weightlifting journey, and then like when

1264
01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:56.279
he was doing like the the lift and talk in

1265
01:09:56.319 --> 01:10:00.840
the backyard until where he is at now, watching him

1266
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:05.399
kind of grow through that, like mentally and like his

1267
01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:07.119
opinions changing, And.

1268
01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:13.840
That's been nice to see.

1269
01:10:12.359 --> 01:10:16.239
How he's allowed himself to grow. He hasn't boxed himself

1270
01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:20.880
into a certain mentality like what some people will do,

1271
01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:24.720
where they will remain very steadfast in the mentality whether

1272
01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:28.159
it's right or wrong, right, they won't change for anything,

1273
01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:32.920
like Zach becoming a lot more personal on his social media,

1274
01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:36.640
like allowing people in and seeing what it's like to

1275
01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:41.920
be like he's an aspiring music artist now yeah, and

1276
01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:44.840
just the hardships that come with that, balancing that with

1277
01:10:44.920 --> 01:10:51.520
the gym, just him improving himself physically, mentally and emotionally.

1278
01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:54.279
I think has been like I enjoy seeing people go

1279
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:59.960
through that. That's very much so more relatable to regular

1280
01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:04.199
people like us because we see like you can relate

1281
01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:06.039
to that. You can be like, Okay, he's going through

1282
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:09.359
the struggle, so me going through the struggle isn't isn't

1283
01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:09.840
as bad.

1284
01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:13.359
I think that this is something I touched about, touched

1285
01:11:13.399 --> 01:11:19.239
on with the guests from last week that that positive

1286
01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:23.920
content works a lot better for me now than negative content.

1287
01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:26.039
But some people thrive on negative content.

1288
01:11:26.119 --> 01:11:28.760
Yeah, like the call out culture, and well even a

1289
01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:31.640
kind of is okay to me because it's like you're

1290
01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:33.920
trying to hold trying to hold people to a standard

1291
01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:37.600
as opposed to just othering people, you know.

1292
01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:42.319
Like rage baiting. I saw someone on Instagram.

1293
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:44.479
I can't remember which account it was recently, but they

1294
01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:47.319
were saying they were talking about how they hate to

1295
01:11:47.399 --> 01:11:51.640
see coaches, like up and coming coaches, especially build their

1296
01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:56.359
their social media their platforms on rage baiting or on

1297
01:11:56.520 --> 01:11:59.840
like callouts because in the like in the short term,

1298
01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:02.760
that might be what's hitting on the algorithm, and they

1299
01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:04.600
might blow up because of that and they might get

1300
01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:08.960
a bunch of hate follows or drama follows and stuff

1301
01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:12.479
like that. But if they don't build their platform on

1302
01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:16.720
the actual coaching, on the actual educational side of it,

1303
01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:21.039
where they're posting more positive stuff, even if it gets

1304
01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:24.199
less engagement, right, Like, that's more sustainable in the long

1305
01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:27.119
run versus building a platform on rage.

1306
01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:29.840
Yeah, it's hard to you run out of things that

1307
01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:30.399
get mad.

1308
01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:35.119
About, and especially like that clout chasy kind of platform

1309
01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:37.159
can only work for so long, and we've seen it

1310
01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:38.840
time and time again where guys will blow up and

1311
01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:41.880
then they'll disappear because they run out of things to

1312
01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:45.439
rage bait on, or the gimmick gets old and people

1313
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:48.880
grow past it and they decide they move on. Versus

1314
01:12:48.920 --> 01:12:52.159
I've seen guys blow not even blow up, but grow

1315
01:12:52.279 --> 01:12:54.960
slowly from a smaller following to a bigger following where

1316
01:12:54.960 --> 01:13:00.960
they consistently post educational stuff, positive stuff, actual full information,

1317
01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:05.399
or actual creative talent. Like if it's a like a

1318
01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:08.920
media guy and he's showing like he's posting like his

1319
01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:12.479
his cinematics, and slowly you watch them improve, you watch

1320
01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:15.520
them get better. That that's more sustainable in the long run.

1321
01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:19.640
That's more positive for the algorithm, I believe, than just

1322
01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:22.079
loading it up with a bunch of rage based slop,

1323
01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:25.319
which I think is kind of the issue with social

1324
01:13:25.399 --> 01:13:27.960
media right now. Like every other post I see in

1325
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:32.079
fitness in the fitness space is some science based versus

1326
01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:33.640
bro science like post.

1327
01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:36.760
Yeah yeah, I know, I saw one yesterday where somebody

1328
01:13:36.920 --> 01:13:40.520
was like, you know, talking about just just get stronger

1329
01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:43.840
or whatever, and it's like, yeah, it's true, but what

1330
01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:48.640
you're railing against is people who are majoring in the minors.

1331
01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:52.079
You're not. It's not science that you're against. Really, it's

1332
01:13:52.159 --> 01:13:55.159
people who get caught up in the minutia, like but yeah,

1333
01:13:55.399 --> 01:13:57.600
if that content's not for you, then don't.

1334
01:13:57.439 --> 01:13:58.680
Consent, don't consume it.

1335
01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:02.680
Pretty easy, you know, they're not We're not force fed.

1336
01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:06.000
We're a little bit force fed on the algorithm. But

1337
01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:08.079
but you know, you don't actually have to engage with

1338
01:14:08.119 --> 01:14:09.439
it if you don't want to. If you know that

1339
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:11.920
this person doesn't doesn't have content that you're interested in,

1340
01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:13.079
the scroll past it.

1341
01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:16.319
Instagram has this feature where you can you can hit

1342
01:14:16.479 --> 01:14:19.640
not interested. Yeah, and if you do that long enough,

1343
01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:22.039
it'll it'll get rid of the algorithm.

1344
01:14:22.760 --> 01:14:24.880
Okay, well I think that's pretty good for today. Jerry.

1345
01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:26.920
Where can people find you if you want them to?

1346
01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:32.039
Jerry Kilos on Instagram all one word. You can find

1347
01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:35.520
me here at Third Street. Come on, buy for a

1348
01:14:36.199 --> 01:14:37.600
training session, Come on buy.

1349
01:14:39.399 --> 01:14:39.880
That's it.

1350
01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:41.359
I know you too.

1351
01:14:41.479 --> 01:14:43.199
Yeah, no, nothing, no nothing.

1352
01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:45.800
I am Sebastian Underscore brand below on IG.

1353
01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:48.800
I am f dj McDonnell. Though social media that shows

1354
01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:51.520
fifty percent facts represents a word and fifty is just numbers,

1355
01:14:51.520 --> 01:14:54.079
fifty percent facts. As a Speakerbine Podcast association with our

1356
01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:57.039
media on the obscure celebrity net work and we'll talk

1357
01:14:57.079 --> 01:15:11.720
to you next week, no stop,