Things that make dieting hard (plus some influencers who are getting it right)| Guest: Jerry Molinero

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And we're in and we're in the studio because I've

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been lately, you have done a lot of shows from

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home because I'm talking to people remotely. But today I'm

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talking to Jerry, who is one of our trainers here

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at the place at through Subarbo.

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Hi, guys, I'm Jerry.

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Oh no, no, I didn't know we were going to

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get speedy. Wait a minute, yo, blame me some speedy Gonzales.

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You know what I'm talking about. That's uh, that's you

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know the voice. It's like, yeah, just like that.

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Absolutely, Yes, culture, the culture, and we take pride in

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speeding Onzalez.

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We just got canceled.

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We take pride and we love them.

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Good good, good kid good. I asked Cherry to come

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in and talk about because we're both on extended weight

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loss journeys at the moment, and he's wearing an ALI

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T shirt today to go with the Ali poster that

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we have behind him here, and to talk about a

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couple of things. One of them is what makes it

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difficult to lose weight. This is like, I think we

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can talk generally and we can talk specifically about ourselves

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what we are challenged with, and then I want to

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talk a little social media. So, uh, I will kick

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it off a little bit and I'll sort of ask

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a question, do you have a craving thing?

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At this point and the cut, I think I've gotten

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over that hill. And then just for the viewers to

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a little context, I'm seven weeks into like a twelve

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month cut.

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At the very beginning of it, the cravings.

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Were pretty strong, yeah, because once you was, I went

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down from eating pretty hardy. I would say, like my

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maintenance was pretty high up there, and I was kind

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of just like I was eating clean.

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I wasn't eating anything crazy, but like if I craved.

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Like some ice cream, I'd go get some ice cream right,

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Like I was eating at that kind of rate.

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And so to immediately cut all of that.

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Out for the start of the cut, where I just

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ate the meals that I had allocated for myself and

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nothing more. I would find myself wandering to the fridge,

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opening it up.

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And just to see, like, like that looks pretty good.

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But at this point I would say, that's all kind

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of gone now and I don't have.

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Those same cravings anymore. I feel like it was kind.

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Of a hill that I got over, and at this

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point in the cut is just very focused. I eat

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my meals as if they were just another task to complete.

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It's very like bleak in that sense, like is enough.

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There's no pleasure that comes with eating, right, It's just

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another thing to do, another thing to check off for

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the day, and that's it. That's all I my body knows,

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it understands that that's all we're gonna eat. There's nothing extra,

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there's no snacking, there's no there's no cravings left to chase.

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But when I am like eating more for like maintenance

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or if I was going up and wait, like when

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I was bulking, if I was craving something, I would

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I would go get it.

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You just destroy it. Yeah, for me, I don't usually

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like crave specific things, even if it's like right in

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front of me or whatever, and that's like just kind

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of from jump for whatever. But what I crave is

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the kind of haphazard incidental eating I used to do. So,

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Like if I went to the store for something, I

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would think, geez, i'm I would I not be upset

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by a salty, crunchy thing, And then the what you

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want is like it's like this much crunchy salty thing

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you want, like a little bit you want like, you know,

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a few ounces of whatever. Yeah, but what you have

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to buy is all the bag. Yeah. And like even

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even finding like the lunch sized bags, it is hard.

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To do, right yeah, So like you'll notice it with

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like chips, right, you see the family sized bag more

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often than the little ones because the little ones will

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be hidden. Now if you go to the store, Yeah,

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and you want like the little dollar bags like back

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in the day used to be like a dollar, those

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are hidden.

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to find them.

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At the front they'll have the big family sized bags now.

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And it's all it's all on purpose. It's all yeah,

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curated to keep us fat. Yeah yeah.

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Yeah, and so like I would, I would buy a

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whole bag of something and tell myself I was not

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going to eat you know, much of it. It's always

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a lot, yeah, I know. And like and and I

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I miss doing that kind of eating while driving because

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driving is boring. Yeah right, that's amazing.

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That's an amazing time right there.

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Yeah, like oh my god, pretzels all your you know,

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you can't use the stick pretzels because you'll get caught

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in your throat and you'll you'll die and you'll die

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on the road. Yeah.

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But well, yeah, Like as someone who coming from the

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career that I was in, I did a lot of commuting,

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and that's probably what led to me getting so heavy.

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At my heaviest was I was doing.

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A lot of commuting from here to the Bay Area,

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and that's like two hours each way, sitting in your car,

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super boring. One of the ways you would stay awake

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is by snacking, and so like on my little routine

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every day, I'd stop by the gas station in the morning,

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I'd grab a bunch of snacks, and then on the

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way home, I'd stop at a gas station, grab a

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bunch of snacks, and.

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You just be chomping on them all two hour long

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for the whole drive, right.

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And if you sit there and you look at every

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like item that you got from the from the gas station,

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you add up all those calories, It's insane how much

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how dense that food is.

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Yeah, And you know, sometimes even when you know, you

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goes back to you tell yourself that you're not gonna

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consume the whole thing, and then and then you.

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And then you blink and you can Yeah. Yeah.

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I always use sour Patch kids as like the shout

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out sour Patch kids. As the example where those bags

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you get at the gas station if you if you

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do it, like the bag will say three hundred calories

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or whatever, but there's ten servings in the bag, So

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that's three thousand calories in the bag in the bag,

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and nobody thinks about it until they're like, you'll finish

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that bag in one city.

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Yeah. Uh. The one that used to get me all

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the time because it sounds like it's not to be

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a bad thing is skinny pop popcorn because it comes

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in an enormous, like king sized pillow kind of bag,

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and uh, I would start eating it. And I love popcorn.

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And though it is not very caloric if you stick

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to the serving, it's wildly cloric. If you eat the

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entire wow, and you know, like you're oh well, and

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you're sort of constantly measuring how much is still in

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the bag, it's like, okay, well.

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Like I can keep going another hand.

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Yeah, yeah, it's just hey, that bag is still heavy,

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you know what I mean. It's there's a lot.

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Of hand bill maybe it's.

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Pop it's popcorn. And then you get down to the

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you know, the parts where it's all the broken pieces

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and crumbs and yeah, and all the all the busted

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shells when you're holding and hold the backup over your face. Yeah,

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and just like and then you just rain popcorn ship everywhere. Yeah,

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that's yeah.

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It gets had a hand quick. I think our bodies

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have been indoctrinated to to not say no to an

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excess of food. I'm sure in older generations when they

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didn't eat as much, like because if you go and

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I've seen it in like foreign countries where they don't

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have access to as much readily available food, they get filled,

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they get full faster like.

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After their meals, they feel full, they feel.

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Satiated, versus here like after a big, big dinner, big lunch,

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you're like, oh, now I need a sweet tree. Now

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I need something and want something to top it off, right,

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And meanwhile you just ate like two thousand calories worth

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of of steak and potatoes or whatever you had for

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lunch or dinner, and then you go get another eight

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hundred calories worth of ice cream and cookies and you

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add it all up and that's that's that's the calorie

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yield for like a week's worth of food in a

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single meal.

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Yeah, and you know, for for me, like, I'm four

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plus months into this and and just now, just now

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is that like oh wow, I really miss being able

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and and eat you were saying stay awake, yeah, stay

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awake or boredom you know those are It's just really

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hard to get through those those moments when you're tired

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and you and you want to sleep but you can't

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and or you're bored and the easiest thing to do

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to keep going was the munch on something. And now

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it's like maybe carrot sticks or whatever. It's like it's

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like what is it? Would air? You know, I mean

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water that never works?

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I think gum had gum was a real real useful

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tool earlier on in the cut when I did have

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like the cravings and stuff where I would chew a

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couple of pieces of gum just to keep the mouth busy, right,

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Like it kind of tricks you into thinking like, oh

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I am doing something, especially for the boredom bit of it.

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It keeps you active, It keeps you doing something, like

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you're conscious that that you're chewing the whole time, but

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you're not really eating anything.

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It's just chewing gum.

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And then you get a little bit of flavor out

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of it. So that kind of satiates the cravings a

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little bit. So that's a big one that I used

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earlier on. But like like I said, right now, at

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this point in it, like I'm pretty focused on it.

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I'm pretty locked in to where I don't really need

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stuff like that chewing gum every now and then, Like

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that's fine.

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It's still I keep a cup, you know, one of

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those like car cups come in the car, and that's

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usually where I chew it. I didn't usually chew it

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anywhere else.

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Yeah, yeah, it'll be onto the driver.

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Yeah, and yeah, just like it's the boredom is to

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stay awake. It's all that, you know. That's a thing

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I found challenging though, like what what.

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Do you what do you got as far as things

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that things that make it hard for you? For me specifically,

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like I said, like right now, it's not too hard.

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I'm pretty disciplined, especially this many years in the training

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in the gym and stuff and being a lot more

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controlled about what I eat, even when I'm on a

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bulk like.

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I'm not. I don't eat too dirty. I eat pretty clean.

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But when I was like outside of the gym before

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I got really locked in and really into it. I

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would say it was very difficult just to avoid all

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the processed stuff, all the fast food, especially like back then,

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like before COVID was like the peak of fast food where.

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Everything was super cheap, everything was super accessible.

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Like we joke about the dollar menu, but that was

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the real thing. Like the dollar Menu was a real thing,

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and it was super cheap.

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You could always pull into the.

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Drive through and for five bucks you had five cheeseburgers,

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just super easy to get, and that would be like

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a snack right between meals. Like if I was out

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and about, it's like, okay, I already had breakfast, I'm out,

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I'm a little bit hungry. Out Let me pull through

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McDonald's real quick, get a twenty piece nuggets and a

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burger and just annihilate that and then still go home

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for like lunch.

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What was your peak weight and when was that?

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I was three hundred pounds, like right before COVID, so

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like twenty nineteen, like late twenty eighteen, I think I

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was up at three hundred pounds, probably a little bit

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over that too. Three hundred was like the first time,

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the first number I actually saw on the scale.

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In your hotel. I am like five foot eight, and

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now you're under children.

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Now I'm under two hundred pounds again. I've been under.

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I've been like the lowest I've been since was like

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one eighty six, one eighty eight, when I was doing

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a little bit more powerlifting just to make weight class.

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But I've allowed myself to build back up and put

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on some muscle, put on some leaner size. So I've

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gone up to two thirty again, but I'm back down

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to like one ninety six today, so I'm in a

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lot more control of my weight. I can kind of

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go up and down as I will, like I'm not

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too afraid of going up anymore, but I don't cross

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a certain threshold anymore.

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Like two thirty I think is my.

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Cap because after that I do feel a little bit

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more sluggish, a little bit more fat. But yeah, three

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hundred pounds I cut down. It was a straight shot

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down to like the one eighty eight. There was no

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there's no bulk between that between three hundred one eight.

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That whole process was just a straight shot down. Or

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from three hundred to two point fifty was super quick,

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and then it hit like a wall, and then two

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fifty to like two twenty. It was really sluggish overall.

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I think it took me like three four years, but

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it was like, I know people can do it quicker,

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but I did it really slow.

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And I was.

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Building strength at the same time because I was lifting

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pretty heavy just being really active in the gym. I

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don't think I missed a single day at the gym

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throughout that whole process. But yeah, like I feel like

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I lost it at the rate my body wanted to

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lose it at.

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I think that brings up two more kind of at

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the same time, one of them being that it's harder

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to lose weight when you don't have much weight to lose.

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It's easier to lose weight if you have a bunch

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of weight to lose. Yeah, for whatever reason. I think

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some of it physiological and some of it's psychological.

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Yeah, I think definitely physiological.

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Like like right now, we can use my cut again

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as an example, like those first two weeks, I dropped

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like thirty pounds like I think we did in three

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weeks where I went from two thirty to two hundred

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pounds just quick, and that's probably a lot of just

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like dead weight, a lot of water weight. And as

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I get leaner, as I get lower in weight, it's

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going to be harder and harder to drag these pounds off.

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So now it's been like two pounds a week since then,

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like between two hundred to one ninety six has been

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kind of a grind, And I know that from one

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ninety six to the one eighties is probably going to

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be more of a grind too, because now we're not

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just losing just dead weight and water weight. All of

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that's gone. Now we're really getting that that that stubborn

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fat and potentially just leaner mass to lose.

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Yeah, And the other part of it is I think

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that they're one of the things that's that is it

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should be encouraging, but it's discouraging because you don't know

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because it's a it's an unknown and that's your body recomping.

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So like gaining muscle while you're why you're losing fat

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does not show up on the scale.

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No, it just seems stagnant.

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Yeah, it looks like you're not losing any weight, or

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some days you go.

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Up a little bit.

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Yeah, I'm just like fuck.

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It's like, damn, I've been starving this whole week, but

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like that number went up, you know why is that?

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Yeah? And and and you know, I think that that's

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the that's an achilles heel of the.

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Calories in, calories out kind of mentality.

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Mentality is that that sometimes you're shifting it around and

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it's on the it's just happening on the inside, not shit,

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that's happening on the outside. And like you would think, oh,

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you're burning X number of calories or whatever it but

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recomp happens, you know, Yeah, like I in four months

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lost nineteen pounds of fat, but I gained six pounds

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of muscle, and so I thought I should have been

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able to lose more weight during that time. Like the

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scale should reflect when you go in and actually like

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do a dexa or whatever, and you're like, oh, so

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that's what happens. That explains that. But it's frustrating if

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what your original goal looks like is scale.

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Weight, and I like, if I get an athlete and

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I've done it multiple times, it is very discouraging to

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people early on in their weight loss journey to see

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the scale not move, and so I try and avoid

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that with my clients, where I'll tell them the scale

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isn't going to be what's.

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The boss of our weight loss?

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Here?

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What I want you to focus more on is the

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weight that you're moving, like here in the gym with

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your lifts, and how you look in the mirror. Let

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those two things guide you more than what the scale says,

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especially early on, because it is very discouraging, because I

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know through experience right where early on, when I wouldn't

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see the scale move between like two point fifty to

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to two forty pounds, it was super discouraging because I

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was doing my best to try and lose that weight,

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but in my head I didn't realize that I was

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building the muscle at the same time. So now as

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a trainer, I try and translate that to my clients

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by not stressing them so much.

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About what the scale says.

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Let's just focus on getting those lifts up, getting on focus,

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focus on getting stronger, and visually they'll see a difference.

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And so if visually they see a difference and the

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scale stays the same, then what are you gonna trust more? Right, Like,

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let's not get depressed over the scale when I can

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be happy that, Hey, maybe the double chin's going away,

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maybe the love handles are flattening out, maybe my biceps

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coming through a little bit better, My cap, my adult

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cap is showing a little more.

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The scale might say the same thing, but obviously you.

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Look different than than when we started, and that that

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helps motivate people more.

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That keeps them.

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On better track to keep going, versus if they that

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scale and it stays the same for a couple of

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weeks and they start to kind of fall off the horse.

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Yeah, yeah, I know it's I it's frustrating personally, and

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I think it's just it's it's hard. It's hard to

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get out of that mentality. And you know, the question

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always the US see a million million times and it's

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been going on for decades is can you get stronger

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slash gain muscle while you're losing weight? And the answer

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is kind of can you get stronger build muscle while

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you're losing fat? The answer is absolutely absolutely, And so

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there's those caveats, right, Yeah, And it just goes comes

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down to asking the right question. And if you're you know,

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if you're in a severe calorie restriction, you're probably gonna

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lose muscle and fat. And it just depends on how

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fast you want to go. I've never lost thirty pounds

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in a short period of time, and all I I

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really wanted to lose was thirty forty pounds, and I'm sitting,

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you know, having lost twenty ish and it just keeps

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keeps bobbing around in that you know, little wave, and

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my weight is notoriously sticky anyway. So I'm saying that,

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although I know the recomp thing is happening, I'm still

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frustrated because I would, you know, I would like to

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be able to look at the scale and see it move.

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That's yeah, And like I said, that's that's just like

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a big mental thing to get over, right. Then that's

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very individual dependent as someone like yourself or me who's

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been kind of in the fitness industry a little longer,

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Like I said, with myself, that was a difficult thing too,

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not seeing the scale move. Where we didn't have people

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like how I how I tell my clients now, where

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we're like, we're not focused on the scale. When I

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was up, when I was younger, especially like in high

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school and stuff, the scale was like that's what matters,

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that's what that's what dictates everything. If you don't weigh

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this much, you're not doing anything. If you're not losing

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or gaining X amount of pounds a week, then you're

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not doing anything versus now. I think the mentality hash

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shifted a little bit to where it's like, Okay, we

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understand what recamping is. We understand that muscle is a

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lot denser than fat, So the scale might go up

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a little bit if but you're building a lot more muscle,

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you're building a lot more strength, you're physically leaning out,

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but you might be at the same weight for a

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little while longer.

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Or really long time. Speaking personally, it can be a

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really long time. Yeah, and yeah, it's.

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Yeah.

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Another one I think that a lot of people face

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is any kind of like event, like a family thing

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or whatever that involves food, and you get like two

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voices in your head, one of them being you know,

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stay super whatever, you know, super tight, and the other

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voice is kind of well, like you need to have

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balance too, and you need to like enjoy uhha sometimes

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and it and even if you say, okay, so I'm

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gonna allow myself this much of an indulgence, this is going.

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To be a higher calorie day or whatever.

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And you know, there are some of the tracking apps

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and stuff that will let you do like a weak

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budget for calories versus a daily but versus daily yeah,

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which is a good approach if you can stay on

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top of it and you're not like you end up

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on day seven and you just can't eat it all.

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It's such air and water and you know, I think

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good thoughts. I don't know.

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With that in mind, it becomes very I would say

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goal dependent, like what is your goal in this phase

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of your dieting, in this phase of your training. Like,

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for example, if I've got someone who's prepping for a

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bodybuilding show, right, and everything and their mom is lined

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up in these last couple months where we've got Christmas,

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we've got Thanksgiving, we've got he's got twelve different birthdays

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all week to week to week, Right, I'm gonna ask him,

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I'm like, how bad do you want to do this show?

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How bad do you want to compete and be your

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best at this show? And then it becomes that mental

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battle of okay, what is the priority here? Is it

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balance or is it are we trying to win this show?

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So it's all dependent on.

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What those goals are.

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Where it's like, in that situation, I would say, let's

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lock in, bro, like, let's let's compete and win at

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this show. You can skip all that. There's gonna be

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more birthdays, there's gonna be more holidays. You want to

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do this show, you want to win.

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At this show. Let's lock in for that.

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Versus if someone's just you know, more of on a

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like a lifestyle diet where they can afford to cheat

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week here and there, they can't afford to cheat day

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here and there. They're not so pressed on losing fifty

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pounds in fifty days or something crazy like that, right

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where they're like, hey, you know, by the end of

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the year, I want to be a little bit lighter

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than I was at the start of the year and

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just be more a fit, more active. Then they do

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have that leeway to hey, I could for someone's birthday,

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I can go out and eat with them, or for

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the holidays, you know, I can splurge on the calories

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a little.

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Bit more so.

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To me, it's all very goal dependent if you want

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to be absolutely locked in like me, I've missed a

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few different events during this cut, and it was a

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little bit hard juggling that in my mind and feeling

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bad about missing them. But at the same time I

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had to remind myself that this is the mission at hand.

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I need to finish this cut. I need to prove

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myself that I can do it, and I can be

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very strict with it. So missing out on these things

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now isn't as bad as I would feel throwing the

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whole cut away by by indulging in an excess of

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calories for a few days, because that's how I would

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feel if I did break the cut for a night

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out of Korean barbecue or something, right, because the goal

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is to stay as strict as possible with it, versus

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if I was just, you know, on a casual cut

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where I had the rest of the year to lose.

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Twenty pounds or something like that.

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Right, then I would be able to give myself that

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freedom to I will go out this weekend or next

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weekend or whatever it is and eat a little bit extra,

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not stress about it too much.

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I think. Another one is if you're using a tracking

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app of any kind, actually being able to document what

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you're eating. If you eat home cooked food, it's difficult

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to break everything down and be sure you've gotten it.

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And like you throw in the description of what you're eating,

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and you're going to get something that's packaged, you know,

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because that's what people are putting in and that's why

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how these databases form. They're largely just things that are

487
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that you can buy places, you know, restaurants or Trader

488
00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:11.880
Joe's or you know, just national brands whatever. So it's

489
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:14.759
difficult to really know how much of whatever you're getting,

490
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:18.119
even even I don't know, even if you're cooking it yourself,

491
00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:22.319
you know, and you measure everything, you're not probably the

492
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:25.319
only person eating it. And so like, how much did

493
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:26.160
I get and how much?

494
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:26.559
How much?

495
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:27.559
How much?

496
00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:29.640
Yeah, exactly exactly.

497
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.200
I think that's more. I think that's super challenging, and

498
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:38.319
I think that the databases very in accuracy. I have

499
00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:43.680
used four different apps during this time in just trying

500
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:46.000
things out and see what what I'm most comfortable with.

501
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:49.200
I ended up back at the first one because I

502
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:53.920
can do like a daily daily budget versus versus the

503
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:59.880
same amount all the time, because I looked at it

504
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:01.880
Calory cycling and decided maybe that I was going to

505
00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:04.839
do that, and so I have been. I can't say

506
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:10.480
that it's been perfect honestly though, but I have the

507
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.440
same thing for breakfast every morning. It's kind of on

508
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:14.839
the carbeavyside, But like, I know my gut and I

509
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:16.960
know I need to I know, I need to have

510
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:17.960
like a lot of fiber.

511
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:20.680
Yeah, you need to feel up too, especially at the51200:27:20.680 --> 00:27:21.319



start of the day.51300:27:21.519 --> 00:27:27.279



Yeah, And exactly the same proportion of stuff between apps51400:27:27.480 --> 00:27:28.400



gives me different.51500:27:28.160 --> 00:27:29.440



Number, gives you different numbers.51600:27:29.640 --> 00:27:33.920



Yeah, the one I'm using right now is like forty51700:27:34.200 --> 00:27:38.440



five or fifty calories showing less than what the other one.51800:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.640



The other one was like, well the fuck. I mean,51900:27:41.680 --> 00:27:46.279



it's the accuracy of the databases and you, I mean52000:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.680



you can look at the boxes or whatever. Yeah, but52100:27:48.920 --> 00:27:50.640



and then calculated all yourself.52200:27:51.640 --> 00:27:55.680



There's you can absolutely do all the due diligence and52300:27:55.759 --> 00:28:01.880



back end work to give yourself at least a better52400:28:01.960 --> 00:28:04.279



idea of what everything has, especially if you cook everything52500:28:04.319 --> 00:28:07.079



at home right like you can you can learn and52600:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.839



memorize what calorie density of eggs and ground beef and52700:28:12.000 --> 00:28:16.119



rice is per serving. And you can absolutely do all that.52800:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.240



But that, like we're saying, is that's not everybody's going52900:28:20.319 --> 00:28:22.400



to do that. Not everybody's going.53000:28:22.319 --> 00:28:25.400



To break out the little scale, break out the measuring53100:28:25.440 --> 00:28:28.319



cups every single time they're going to eat or every53200:28:28.359 --> 00:28:33.200



single time they're going to cook their prep. And that53300:28:33.440 --> 00:28:37.559



is a barrier to entry for clean eating.53400:28:39.359 --> 00:28:41.400



And again, one of the things that makes it so53500:28:41.559 --> 00:28:45.400



hard is all these other processed foods are packaged and53600:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.480



ready to go. They've got all the numbers on them,53700:28:48.319 --> 00:28:50.359



so that gives people that kind of false sense of53800:28:50.400 --> 00:28:52.920



security where they're like, Okay, I'm only eating X amount53900:28:52.960 --> 00:28:55.880



of servings, which the box says is X amount of54000:28:55.920 --> 00:28:59.000



calories because it's so much easier. Then I'm going to54100:28:59.079 --> 00:29:02.119



look up how many calories, how much, what the macros54200:29:02.119 --> 00:29:04.079



on the eggs are, and then I'm going to measure54300:29:04.119 --> 00:29:06.359



them out. I'm going to separate the whites from the yellows.54400:29:06.680 --> 00:29:09.119



I'm going to measure out an exact cup of rice54500:29:09.240 --> 00:29:12.759



every single time I serve it. I'm going to weigh54600:29:12.759 --> 00:29:18.000



out my potatoes and have the exact number of ounces54700:29:18.039 --> 00:29:21.440



on potatoes that I cook before and after I cook them,54800:29:22.000 --> 00:29:24.440



the measure out the oil that I use.54900:29:24.559 --> 00:29:26.400



Like that's all. That all makes it.55000:29:26.440 --> 00:29:29.240



Very difficult to do because it is so tedious, and55100:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.559



that sounds like an eating disorder it objectively.55200:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.759



Objectively it sounds like which to me is crazy.55300:29:37.880 --> 00:29:42.000



Right, Like if I say that to people that this55400:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.079



is how I eat and this is this is what55500:29:44.119 --> 00:29:46.359



I do when I eat, they think I'm crazy, which55600:29:46.359 --> 00:29:49.359



should be the opposite, right, Like, no, Like what I'm55700:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.960



doing is actually a lot healthier, but the way it's55800:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.799



set up, the way we're indoctrinated to think about it55900:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.559



is it sounds like an eating disorder, like you're doing56000:29:59.599 --> 00:30:00.000



too much.56100:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.240



Yeah, you're you're a little too obsessively focused on it.56200:30:06.599 --> 00:30:10.599



And sometimes those are people who you know are actually56300:30:10.599 --> 00:30:15.160



getting good results, but but they but they're not feeling it,56400:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.119



you know what I mean, they don't you know, they've56500:30:18.119 --> 00:30:22.880



they've got a dysmorphia thing happening, even not just a56600:30:22.960 --> 00:30:28.000



body dysmorphia, but like a you know, a psychological block56700:30:28.279 --> 00:30:30.240



on feeling like they're making progress.56800:30:30.319 --> 00:30:32.759



Yeah, yeah, yeah that.56900:30:33.200 --> 00:30:41.799



Sucks, SeaBASS. You got any You strike me as a57000:30:41.839 --> 00:30:46.279



guy who have who maybe was challenged by gaining weight57100:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.720



over time, by trying to gain weight.57200:30:48.920 --> 00:30:50.960



So when I was younger, I used to be like57300:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.519



I think I was sitting at like two hundred pounds.57400:30:53.559 --> 00:30:57.839



That was like younger, probably like before high school. And57500:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.400



then I just started working out and running in also57600:31:00.400 --> 00:31:02.640



your gross spurt, so I just I got taller, so57700:31:02.720 --> 00:31:05.920



I got skinnier, six.57800:31:07.960 --> 00:31:08.480



D readhead.57900:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.839



So at first, yeah, I struggled with gaining weight, and58000:31:15.160 --> 00:31:17.559



same thing. You just kind of read things on the58100:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.799



internet or you see like people on YouTube like oh58200:31:19.839 --> 00:31:23.440



you need to just fucking eat, just eat whatever just58300:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.759



to gain weight. So I did like a dirty bulk,58400:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.519



which you just eat whatever the fuck. Yeah, anything from58500:31:29.759 --> 00:31:31.839



like fast food to whatever.58600:31:32.079 --> 00:31:35.079



That dollar manu, yeah to that dollar minion is different.58700:31:36.319 --> 00:31:38.759



And then I got up to like two hundred twenty58800:31:39.559 --> 00:31:42.759



and from there I just felt sluggish. I just didn't58900:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.400



feel h I guess you could see, like say, like59000:31:45.440 --> 00:31:47.119



an athlete anymore.59100:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.200



So I started.59200:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.200



To cut down and then I felt a lot better,59300:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.200



and then obviously you you fall off, gained back, went59400:31:56.279 --> 00:32:01.960



up to two twenty, and now this time around is challenging, challenging.59500:32:02.359 --> 00:32:04.720



It's not easy to take it off anymore.59600:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.839



I'm just sometimes the struggle is I struggle with the59700:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.200



just trying to bring the weight down. Same thing where59800:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.279



I look at the scale and I'm like, damn, that59900:32:15.319 --> 00:32:18.839



weight is not going down, or my weight fluctuates a60000:32:18.880 --> 00:32:20.640



lot where I can go one day I can be60100:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.079



like to eighteen, and then the next like two three60200:32:24.160 --> 00:32:28.920



days after I'm like two fourteen. I'm like, what the fuck?60300:32:29.559 --> 00:32:32.519



What the hell happened there. I've had swings of up60400:32:32.559 --> 00:32:35.759



to seven pounds in a day in a day, and60500:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.799



it's like that's really crazy in the morning tonight, like60600:32:38.880 --> 00:32:40.920



what the hell on top of that?60700:32:41.000 --> 00:32:44.200



Like different scales? Yeah, yeah, different scales, and you're just there,60800:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.480



like which one do? You just start pointing out all60900:32:46.519 --> 00:32:47.200



of them, like which one do?61000:32:47.319 --> 00:32:47.720



I believe?61100:32:47.839 --> 00:32:52.119



I think when it comes to that using regardless of accuracy,61200:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.799



using the same one consistently will give you a better61300:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.440



idea than trying to find the one that's actually accurate.61400:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.000



Two scales in the house. One of them is connected61500:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.039



to my phone. The other one is connected to nothing.61600:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.400



And the real that the real test for me is61700:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.319



when I get on the one that's connected to my phone,61800:33:09.319 --> 00:33:12.759



because that like makes a record whenever. Uh. The other61900:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.799



one I can get on at anytime, but it will62000:33:15.920 --> 00:33:22.000



vary from you know, three or four pounds between the62100:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.039



times that I step on it, Like, get on, look62200:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.079



at a number, get off, Get on again. There's a62300:33:28.079 --> 00:33:33.319



different number. They're like, well, it's really really a roller62400:33:33.319 --> 00:33:39.359



coaster of emotions because and and it tends to weigh lighter,62500:33:39.960 --> 00:33:41.960



but it's not exclusively lighter.62600:33:42.880 --> 00:33:44.000



Sometimes it's a little heavy.62700:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.200



Sometimes it's heavier than the other one is like you know,62800:33:47.319 --> 00:33:50.839



and and and I get a phobia about getting on62900:33:50.880 --> 00:33:51.720



the one that that.63000:33:52.000 --> 00:33:53.279



Oh no, it's terrifying.63100:33:53.440 --> 00:33:56.839



It is terrifying sometimes, Like I use the scale here63200:33:57.440 --> 00:33:59.480



and I use it first thing in the morning when63300:33:59.519 --> 00:34:01.559



I get here, because that's like, again, you want to63400:34:01.559 --> 00:34:03.519



build that consistency. You want to use it at the63500:34:03.559 --> 00:34:06.960



same time, the same spot under the same conditions as63600:34:07.000 --> 00:34:08.960



most as the most times you.63700:34:08.920 --> 00:34:13.800



Can to keep it, keep it, keep consistent.63800:34:13.880 --> 00:34:17.440



Yeah, And but some days, like I'll come in and63900:34:17.480 --> 00:34:20.280



I'm like, like I feel I feel like it's gonna64000:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.599



be heavy today or I feel.64100:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.800



Like I'm gonna be off today, and I'll have that phobia, right.64200:34:24.800 --> 00:34:28.840



Yeah, yeah. Do you have a trick to feeling like64300:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.079



you're getting an accurate reading out of this this scale?64400:34:31.119 --> 00:34:36.440



Because this scale befuddles me. It really moves around a lot.64500:34:36.400 --> 00:34:37.320



Sometimes it does.64600:34:37.400 --> 00:34:39.960



But I'll get off, I'll wait a little bit, let64700:34:39.960 --> 00:34:41.960



it zero in, and then just stand on it, and64800:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.440



then I'll do it a couple different times.64900:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.639



Until it's until it's consistent.65000:34:46.800 --> 00:34:49.960



Yeah, because it does. This one does bounce around a65100:34:49.960 --> 00:34:53.159



little bit a lot. Uh huh. So I'll just keep65200:34:53.199 --> 00:34:56.000



doing it until I'll do it like if I do65300:34:56.039 --> 00:34:59.880



it six or eight times, you'll you'll get a good.65400:35:00.119 --> 00:35:01.840



Have to get out of mind because I feel like65500:35:01.880 --> 00:35:04.360



I've changed if I changed my mind to the weight.65600:35:04.360 --> 00:35:05.400



Changes on it.65700:35:06.400 --> 00:35:11.880



It's like up and down all the time anyway. I65800:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.639



think another one that really gets a lot of people65900:35:15.559 --> 00:35:18.960



is looking at social media.66000:35:19.360 --> 00:35:20.159



Oh that's huge.66100:35:20.760 --> 00:35:24.800



That's huge because it depending upon who you're looking at.66200:35:26.320 --> 00:35:36.199



You can get a real you can get unrealistic expectations.66300:35:37.119 --> 00:35:40.079



You can get like a shame component if you're if66400:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.360



you feel like you're not like getting where you want66500:35:42.400 --> 00:35:42.679



to go.66600:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.840



Yeah, versus the Europeers around you, even if it's not66700:35:45.920 --> 00:35:48.519



like a big influencer, right, even if it's just like66800:35:48.679 --> 00:35:50.320



your local community around you.66900:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.039



Say you started your weight loss.67000:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.519



Around the same time as someone else did, and they're67100:35:54.559 --> 00:35:58.440



making these crazy strides and you're thinking to yourself, damn,67200:35:58.519 --> 00:36:01.480



like what are they doing different? Or or like what67300:36:01.519 --> 00:36:04.719



am I doing wrong? But you never really know, like67400:36:04.800 --> 00:36:09.239



the circumstances, like they could be in a completely different space.67500:36:10.280 --> 00:36:11.920



And you don't know what. You don't know what they're67600:36:12.360 --> 00:36:14.719



what they're taking, what they're taking, you know, what they're doing.67700:36:14.880 --> 00:36:16.840



You don't know what their CLOrk intake looks like. You67800:36:16.880 --> 00:36:18.840



don't know any of those things. And they could be67900:36:18.920 --> 00:36:22.280



like severely restricting your calories or whatever.68000:36:24.360 --> 00:36:27.000



And yeah, they could be drinking water once a day, right.68100:36:27.199 --> 00:36:29.400



Yeah, they could be Yeah, all sorts of things that68200:36:29.679 --> 00:36:34.440



you know, they could be restricting not just carbs, but68300:36:34.519 --> 00:36:39.159



restricting salt. So they're not like yes, water or you68400:36:39.199 --> 00:36:43.679



know whatever. It's it's difficult. And and by extension, the68500:36:43.719 --> 00:36:47.519



mirror is a problem as well, because you know, certain68600:36:47.559 --> 00:36:51.159



ankles look good and certain ankles look awful, and you68700:36:51.199 --> 00:36:52.679



know a lot of people talk about, you know, you68800:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.639



should take progress pictures or whatever because it's difficult to68900:36:56.639 --> 00:37:00.320



realize how much change there is. But if you, you know,69000:37:00.440 --> 00:37:03.360



get on a dysmorphia track and you you're you focus69100:37:03.400 --> 00:37:05.000



in on the things that are a problem and you69200:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.880



don't see the things that are positive. You know. For me,69300:37:09.000 --> 00:37:11.280



like one of the major positives is like I have69400:37:11.400 --> 00:37:14.400



veins in my arms. Yeah, crazy, And I did not69500:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.000



have them you know when this when this started, and69600:37:17.039 --> 00:37:21.199



I haven't really had them very much before. I mean69700:37:21.320 --> 00:37:22.840



some but you know, part of it is that I'm69800:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.679



getting old and so like I'm losing some of the69900:37:25.719 --> 00:37:29.159



connective tissue in the fascia and so the mains show70000:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.599



up more. That's just that's just that's just a thing.70100:37:32.639 --> 00:37:34.880



That's something I don't have any control over. But they70200:37:34.920 --> 00:37:36.920



don't show up if I'm fat, so you.70300:37:36.880 --> 00:37:38.599



Know, Yeah, No, it's still like a good sign.70400:37:38.719 --> 00:37:42.000



So it's still a good sign. Yeah, but you know,70500:37:42.039 --> 00:37:44.360



it's it can be challenging, and it's like you know,70600:37:44.400 --> 00:37:47.639



when your how your clothes fit is a measure for70700:37:47.679 --> 00:37:52.480



some people. Yeah, but you know you're going going back70800:37:52.519 --> 00:37:58.320



to going back to the recomp thing. You know, some70900:37:58.360 --> 00:38:00.559



things fit better and some things if it worse.71000:38:00.639 --> 00:38:03.639



Yeah yeah, like if your shirts feel tighter up top.71100:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.519



Yeah, but your pants are getting looser than obviously you71200:38:06.519 --> 00:38:08.119



know that's a that's a pretty good sign.71300:38:08.360 --> 00:38:08.519



Yea.71400:38:11.159 --> 00:38:14.000



The dysmorphia thing, I think is just a huge thing71500:38:14.079 --> 00:38:18.719



in the fitness space. Yeah, where I feel like the71600:38:18.800 --> 00:38:21.280



deeper you get into fitness, the better you get at it,71700:38:21.360 --> 00:38:25.400



the more dysmorphia kind of crawls into your mind. Yeah,71800:38:25.480 --> 00:38:28.159



Because the people with the worst dysmorphia I've seen are71900:38:28.159 --> 00:38:32.320



the guys that look incredible, like show ready guys, super72000:38:32.320 --> 00:38:36.079



strong guys, been busting weights for ten plus years.72100:38:36.159 --> 00:38:37.960



They're the ones that have the.72200:38:38.079 --> 00:38:42.320



Worst and most crippling dysmorphia on the planet, versus some72300:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.079



of the more younger guys that are just getting into72400:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.360



it right, Like they have that bright eyed delusion still72500:38:47.960 --> 00:38:50.760



where they're excited to take take their shirts off.72600:38:50.719 --> 00:38:52.000



In the gym and they're ready to go.72700:38:52.000 --> 00:38:56.800



They're wearing the tiniest little stringers.72800:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.679



And sometimes shouldn't be Yeah, and they well, I mean72900:38:58.719 --> 00:39:02.480



it should shouldn't be that, Like that's a judgmental thing73000:39:02.519 --> 00:39:04.599



to say. I don't really I don't really mean it73100:39:04.639 --> 00:39:04.880



like that.73200:39:04.960 --> 00:39:05.679



I'm not like that.73300:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.079



But you know, like they're not filling out these shirts,73400:39:08.159 --> 00:39:13.280



right yeah, versus like very optimistic. Yeah, it's very optimistic73500:39:14.239 --> 00:39:16.320



versus like you see the more experienced guys, like they73600:39:16.320 --> 00:39:17.400



always have the four.73700:39:17.400 --> 00:39:20.719



XL polo shirt on. Yeah.73800:39:20.840 --> 00:39:22.519



Yeah, they're just like swimming in their.73900:39:23.480 --> 00:39:28.079



Never showing nothing. Uh like Mike, right, Mike always wears74000:39:28.079 --> 00:39:29.039



the giant shirts.74100:39:29.119 --> 00:39:30.679



Yeah, I rarely show stuff.74200:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.880



I was telling you guys the other day because yeah, Mike,74300:39:33.039 --> 00:39:35.480



you know, Mike is Mike is still in Texas and74400:39:35.559 --> 00:39:40.480



other places and he's working with Agent zero and uh,74500:39:41.039 --> 00:39:42.880



he posted a picture the other day that look, he74600:39:43.239 --> 00:39:46.079



looks great. He looks probably as good as I've ever74700:39:46.119 --> 00:39:49.119



seen him. Look, although the lighting was actually you know,74800:39:49.239 --> 00:39:51.679



giving a lot of it. He had the goon lighting, Yeah,74900:39:51.760 --> 00:39:55.519



giving a lot of grace. They call it.75000:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.840



That's what they're calling it right now, shout out Nick's75100:39:57.840 --> 00:39:58.840



strength and power.75200:40:01.719 --> 00:40:06.880



Goon lighting. I had not heard that one. Yeah, But75300:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.599



when I first met him, you know, years and years ago,75400:40:10.079 --> 00:40:13.280



like he was still in in in his basketball head75500:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.519



and he was he was wearing two shirts all the time,75600:40:15.559 --> 00:40:18.639



and you had no idea like what he actually looked like.75700:40:18.679 --> 00:40:20.960



And then once you see that he's even then he75800:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.719



was you know, he was skinny, but he was, Yeah,75900:40:23.880 --> 00:40:27.119



he was carrying a reasonable amount of muscle. Like he was.76000:40:27.280 --> 00:40:32.960



He was anxious for social media recognition and following and stuff.76100:40:32.960 --> 00:40:34.960



And it's like, dude, you could take your shirt off.76200:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.760



You could take both of them off, you know, both shirts,76300:40:38.039 --> 00:40:40.480



but both of them. Yes, you could take them off,76400:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.920



and you would in like people would go, oh, wow,76500:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.199



he's really you know whatever. And he was focused more76600:40:46.199 --> 00:40:50.840



on on on you know, the strength part of it76700:40:50.920 --> 00:40:57.480



and and the you know, in this the social cues76800:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.599



part of it. You know yah, and less on the76900:41:00.599 --> 00:41:06.039



the actual esthetics, the aesthetics. Yeah yeah, So I mean77000:41:06.119 --> 00:41:08.000



some someday when he's back, we'll have to ask him77100:41:08.039 --> 00:41:11.400



about why that's the truth. But no, I just from77200:41:11.440 --> 00:41:14.239



the from you know, from the beginning, I was like,77300:41:14.559 --> 00:41:16.559



you could, you could do that, and you would you know,77400:41:16.679 --> 00:41:18.719



like you could do that and a lot of people77500:41:18.760 --> 00:41:21.039



can't and it's just.77600:41:20.960 --> 00:41:24.320



Like not comfortable and that and that to build off77700:41:24.360 --> 00:41:28.760



of that, right, like someone say someone that's a little77800:41:28.760 --> 00:41:30.559



bit heavier, it's got a lot more fat on their77900:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.119



on their body, sees that on on social media. They78000:41:33.159 --> 00:41:35.679



see someone like Mike or see someone like David Laid.78100:41:35.719 --> 00:41:38.760



They see all the popular Instagrammers and they're like, damn,78200:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.000



like those guys look insane, Like I'm never gonna like78300:41:42.159 --> 00:41:45.199



they look at themselves there, they feel like they'll never78400:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.559



achieve that, they'll never reach something like that. And uh,78500:41:49.840 --> 00:41:54.320



coming from that point of view, I'm still nowhere near78600:41:54.360 --> 00:41:57.519



where I would want to be. But I have look78700:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.159



I look back at how I look back then, and78800:42:01.039 --> 00:42:03.719



like I've surpassed every limit that I had in my78900:42:03.880 --> 00:42:07.480



mind back then to where I was like I'll never79000:42:07.559 --> 00:42:12.079



be able to see myself look like this, or see79100:42:12.079 --> 00:42:14.639



these kinds of muscles on me because I'm too fat79200:42:15.400 --> 00:42:19.559



at this point. Now, like I've surpassed every limitation that79300:42:19.599 --> 00:42:24.199



I had set for myself and then some. But no79400:42:24.239 --> 00:42:26.239



matter what, like the dysmorphia.79500:42:25.679 --> 00:42:28.519



Is always still there. It's always still there.79600:42:28.840 --> 00:42:32.400



So one thing I've had to like force into my79700:42:32.480 --> 00:42:35.440



own mind is like comparison is a thief of joy,79800:42:35.920 --> 00:42:41.159



is to look at yourself in a vacuum. Block everything79900:42:41.159 --> 00:42:45.119



else out. Just look at yourself objectively and compare yourself80000:42:45.119 --> 00:42:49.119



to just yourself, And that way you're able to celebrate80100:42:49.599 --> 00:42:53.400



your own achievements in a vacuum. That helps because now80200:42:53.440 --> 00:42:56.079



you're not like, oh, well this guy got ripped in80300:42:56.519 --> 00:43:01.039



two years and he looks better than I'll ever look.80400:43:02.079 --> 00:43:05.000



Instead of thinking that way, it's like, oh, I got80500:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.159



I got this fit in two years and three years80600:43:08.159 --> 00:43:11.119



whatever it took me to to do it, and I80700:43:11.199 --> 00:43:12.880



look better than I ever did.80800:43:13.719 --> 00:43:15.760



What's stopping me from going further than this?80900:43:16.760 --> 00:43:19.280



If I could have, if I could do three hundred81000:43:19.280 --> 00:43:23.039



pounds to two hundred pounds, what's stopping me from going81100:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.280



two hundred pounds to one ninety super lean, super shredded.81200:43:27.880 --> 00:43:30.920



I've already done this much work. Why would I stop now?81300:43:31.920 --> 00:43:35.639



Yeah, that's likely when I got my my when I81400:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.639



did the decks a few weeks ago, and then I81500:43:37.639 --> 00:43:39.840



saw what the number was, like, well, I could go81600:43:40.800 --> 00:43:45.760



down X amount more and probably stay there even though81700:43:45.800 --> 00:43:49.360



it's hard, but I accomplished this much, so I could81800:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.000



do you know, this much more and sticking there. I81900:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.920



think that maybe one of the Another one of the82000:43:55.920 --> 00:44:01.000



struggles is the difficulty and ignore that when you get82100:44:01.000 --> 00:44:06.280



where you're going, there's a maintenance thing that looks nothing82200:44:06.440 --> 00:44:10.239



like how you ate before or what your activity levels82300:44:10.239 --> 00:44:13.599



were before. Like you're getting you're just like you're literally82400:44:13.599 --> 00:44:18.280



committing to a different lifestyle before. You can't. Like it's82500:44:18.320 --> 00:44:22.559



not like solving a problem where there's an endpoint and82600:44:22.599 --> 00:44:24.519



you can and then okay, well the problem is over82700:44:24.559 --> 00:44:27.639



and so I can do and it's yeah, it's just82800:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.239



it's it's it's kind of always and that I mean82900:44:30.599 --> 00:44:32.559



you you hear a lot of different versions of that83000:44:32.599 --> 00:44:34.599



if you see a lot of people say things like83100:44:34.639 --> 00:44:40.239



that on on on social media and whatever, but it83200:44:40.400 --> 00:44:41.360



is freakishly true.83300:44:41.559 --> 00:44:44.400



Oh and this is like one of the tenants I83400:44:44.440 --> 00:44:46.199



live by is to fall in love with the journey,83500:44:46.280 --> 00:44:49.360



not the destination, right, because that's going to carry you83600:44:49.360 --> 00:44:53.920



further because it is a lifestyle change it is it83700:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.280



is something that you're going to have to do for83800:44:57.320 --> 00:45:00.320



the rest of your life. Like once you you get83900:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.800



to a certain point, I feel like it gets easier84000:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.800



because you do fall in love with that process and84100:45:06.880 --> 00:45:11.000



you no longer look at it as work versus it84200:45:11.119 --> 00:45:14.280



just being your lifestyle. But it is hard to get84300:45:14.320 --> 00:45:14.840



to that point.84400:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.360



And two, as time goes on, you have to you84500:45:19.400 --> 00:45:24.960



have to recognize when when your mindset shifts because of84600:45:25.039 --> 00:45:29.280



situations changing, and then you allow yourself, you know, like here,84700:45:29.440 --> 00:45:33.639



here's an example, Like in the couple of years going84800:45:33.679 --> 00:45:40.440



into to twenty twenty, like I would have fast food84900:45:40.760 --> 00:45:44.920



like two or three times a year literally just I85000:45:45.039 --> 00:45:50.719



just completely avoided it. I like it, but after not85100:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.599



eating for it for a while, I hate it. Just85200:45:53.679 --> 00:45:57.000



doesn't taste right or whatever. But then we started building85300:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.000



this place and COVID was going on, and you could85400:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.840



get it was harder to get things like you know,85500:46:03.000 --> 00:46:05.639



chicken and beef from yeah, you know, and except the85600:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.159



fast food restaurants were getting that ship. And I was85700:46:08.199 --> 00:46:12.400



working here, you know, hours a day, building the place up,85800:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.840



and I just started eating fast food again, and it85900:46:15.880 --> 00:46:19.599



was difficult to stop. It was. It was very difficult86000:46:19.599 --> 00:46:21.800



to stop, even though I had been very disciplined about it,86100:46:22.159 --> 00:46:24.000



been very disciplined about a lot of it, you know,86200:46:24.119 --> 00:46:27.800



and then and the situation changes, and like your outlook86300:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.480



on the world changes, and you just don't it just86400:46:30.519 --> 00:46:34.360



becomes less important or you know, it's like, well, things86500:46:34.400 --> 00:46:36.400



are difficult, so I'm going to give myself grace on86600:46:36.440 --> 00:46:37.519



this or whatever.86700:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.159



And you'll kind of open the flood gates.86800:46:39.239 --> 00:46:42.679



Yeah, And it's not not immediately. It's it's a slow leak.86900:46:43.000 --> 00:46:46.119



And you have to think like the millions of dollars87000:46:46.159 --> 00:46:49.880



as they pour into engineering the food to be that way, yeah,87100:46:49.920 --> 00:46:53.840



to make you kind of hooked on it, And that87200:46:53.960 --> 00:46:55.679



is very difficult to work against.87300:46:55.679 --> 00:46:58.239



It is. It is like fighting an army on your87400:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.559



own right where if.87500:47:00.440 --> 00:47:03.480



You have a couple a couple of weeks where you87600:47:03.639 --> 00:47:05.559



have to get that fast food because it's the only87700:47:05.599 --> 00:47:09.000



thing that's convenient, it's definitely going to grab you by87800:47:09.000 --> 00:47:12.440



the throat again and really drag you into that slump87900:47:13.480 --> 00:47:17.159



because that's what it's engineered to do. So I can88000:47:17.320 --> 00:47:21.079



definitely see that where it does become difficult again. Just88100:47:21.119 --> 00:47:25.119



slipping for a couple of weeks or whatever because it's convenient,88200:47:25.159 --> 00:47:26.480



because the situation.88300:47:26.199 --> 00:47:27.440



Requires it or whatever.88400:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.119



It will drag you back down and then you have88500:47:31.159 --> 00:47:34.639



to do the whole beginning phase of getting out of88600:47:34.679 --> 00:47:38.599



it again and building that discipline up again because you88700:47:38.679 --> 00:47:42.280



are working against these billion dollar corporations that pour a88800:47:42.320 --> 00:47:46.880



ton of money into engineering. The taste, all the different88900:47:46.960 --> 00:47:52.559



satiation feelings that that food instills in you, like anytime89000:47:52.599 --> 00:47:55.159



you eat a burger, like you always want another one,89100:47:55.199 --> 00:47:57.039



no matter what, like no matter where you go.89200:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.800



I don't have that problem. But it's it's the French89300:48:00.840 --> 00:48:01.280



fries man.89400:48:01.519 --> 00:48:05.880



Yeah, like the fries, the nuggets, all the little sauces,89500:48:06.079 --> 00:48:06.719



nuggies do.89600:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.199



Not do it for me. I just noted. But the89700:48:09.239 --> 00:48:11.599



French fries. Yeah, like a really good French fries or89800:48:11.599 --> 00:48:13.920



a really bad French fry, I don't know, just French fries.89900:48:15.679 --> 00:48:18.400



I saw a video somebody who did the other day90000:48:18.440 --> 00:48:25.320



talking about putting peanut butter on cheese, and like, my90100:48:25.440 --> 00:48:28.079



weaknesses are peanut butter and cheese and I never have90200:48:28.119 --> 00:48:33.679



had it together there. I wonder what that's like.90300:48:36.079 --> 00:48:38.119



Now we gotta find out.90400:48:38.159 --> 00:48:42.559



He's like, yeah, and today we're going to use some90500:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.800



peanut butter and cheese to test the theory about whatever.90600:48:46.039 --> 00:48:47.360



That's a crazy combination.90700:48:48.119 --> 00:48:52.719



Yeah. Yeah. It was like Landa Lake's American cheese singles90800:48:52.760 --> 00:48:56.360



like yeah, just the pre slice ones and they just90900:48:56.400 --> 00:49:00.559



like pour peanut butter and yeah, yes, spread peanut on that.91000:49:00.679 --> 00:49:02.719



I just I can't. I can't even do.91100:49:02.719 --> 00:49:05.559



Not even a sandwich. It's just a slice of cheese.91200:49:05.320 --> 00:49:12.719



And a slice of cheese. Yeah. Uh. Kind of the91300:49:12.800 --> 00:49:16.400



last point running back to uh to uh dysmorphia for91400:49:16.440 --> 00:49:21.280



a second. I feel like body dysmorphia is the physical91500:49:21.400 --> 00:49:26.079



version of imposter syndrome.91600:49:26.679 --> 00:49:28.079



Mm hmm. I could see that.91700:49:28.360 --> 00:49:32.280



Yeah, I'd not really thought about it that way before,91800:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.079



but it you know. And and they say the new91900:49:36.199 --> 00:49:40.679



the new thing imposter syndrome is that it's it's only92000:49:40.760 --> 00:49:42.960



a bad thing if it becomes an obsession.92100:49:44.199 --> 00:49:45.079



Yeah m hm.92200:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.400



But otherwise it keeps competent people from thinking too much92300:49:49.400 --> 00:49:50.400



of themselves.92400:49:50.400 --> 00:49:51.159



Keeps them humble.92500:49:51.280 --> 00:49:54.440



Yeah, it is a humility thing. I think it is92600:49:54.559 --> 00:49:58.639



like a like a built in safety that we have92700:49:58.719 --> 00:50:00.559



in our minds to keep us kind and a humble.92800:50:00.840 --> 00:50:01.760



Yeah.92900:50:02.199 --> 00:50:05.480



Because if you do ignore that imposter syndrome and you93000:50:05.559 --> 00:50:07.679



allow your ego to get too big, like it can93100:50:07.719 --> 00:50:10.639



get out of hand pretty quickly. So like whenever I93200:50:10.679 --> 00:50:13.880



have the imposter syndrome, it always makes me just reflect,93300:50:14.119 --> 00:50:16.480



why am I feeling this imposter syndrome? So I'll go93400:50:16.599 --> 00:50:20.400



back on whatever I'm feeling it about, reflect on myself93500:50:20.440 --> 00:50:22.440



and see if I can improve myself any better to93600:50:23.719 --> 00:50:26.079



get over because if I have doubts of myself, then93700:50:26.119 --> 00:50:28.239



they're there for a reason, right, So I kind of93800:50:28.320 --> 00:50:34.719



utilize that to better myself. Dysmorphia being like the physical manifestation,93900:50:34.760 --> 00:50:38.880



I can absolutely see that because it is basically just94000:50:38.960 --> 00:50:41.840



imposter syndrome about your physical body. Yeah, where you look94100:50:41.880 --> 00:50:42.920



at the mirror.94200:50:42.599 --> 00:50:46.400



And you don't believe that everybody else what everybody else94300:50:46.440 --> 00:50:51.800



is seeing in reality. Yeah, it's difficult. And my biggest, honestly,94400:50:51.840 --> 00:50:56.079



my biggest thing with with imposter syndrome is back in94500:50:56.079 --> 00:50:57.960



the day, back and you know when back in the94600:50:58.280 --> 00:51:01.360



powercast days when it was so incredibly popular, like it94700:51:01.400 --> 00:51:04.920



didn't seem all that real and then and I didn't94800:51:05.239 --> 00:51:09.360



I didn't put a kind of enough of myself into94900:51:09.400 --> 00:51:11.679



it into it. I didn't like I didn't pat myself95000:51:11.679 --> 00:51:13.400



on the back and of and like it was and95100:51:13.480 --> 00:51:17.719



honestly that that was kind of weaponized against me. You95200:51:17.760 --> 00:51:21.679



know when people tell you you don't matter that much, like, well,95300:51:22.119 --> 00:51:25.239



you know, fuck you, And but the fuck you was95400:51:25.280 --> 00:51:26.960



not the first place you go. The first place you95500:51:27.079 --> 00:51:27.320



go is.95600:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.199



Oh, you're right, yeah, yeah, you you fall into it95700:51:30.239 --> 00:51:33.760



and uh, like I've had that issue with imposter syndrome95800:51:33.800 --> 00:51:36.679



on certain stuff too. But again, like I said, like95900:51:36.719 --> 00:51:39.800



what I learned to what I taught myself was to Okay,96000:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.840



if I have that feeling, let's see why in my96100:51:42.880 --> 00:51:44.599



own mind, why do I have that feeling?96200:51:44.800 --> 00:51:46.280



What do I doubt about myself?96300:51:47.480 --> 00:51:51.320



Like early on, when I was doing photography, like imposter96400:51:51.400 --> 00:51:56.679



syndrome was a huge thing to me, Like I would96500:51:56.719 --> 00:52:02.760



I would do mostly automotive photography, and people like love96600:52:02.800 --> 00:52:04.840



the photos that I was turning in, but in my96700:52:04.960 --> 00:52:07.760



head I always felt like they could always be better,96800:52:09.159 --> 00:52:11.199



and so I didn't feel like I was giving a96900:52:11.239 --> 00:52:15.719



good enough product or good enough showing of my talent97000:52:15.800 --> 00:52:20.559



of my skill. And slowly I began to teach myself, Okay,97100:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.559



why do I like what is it about these photos97200:52:23.559 --> 00:52:27.159



that I don't like even though the owner's telling me97300:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.199



that it looks great, that it looks incredible, that they97400:52:31.239 --> 00:52:34.079



love it, And so I would instead of feeling bad97500:52:34.119 --> 00:52:37.119



about it and allowing myself.97600:52:36.679 --> 00:52:40.599



To be held back by it, I would use.97700:52:40.480 --> 00:52:43.039



It as a chance as a reminder to let's reflect97800:52:43.039 --> 00:52:44.679



and let's see what can I improve, what can.97900:52:44.559 --> 00:52:45.119



I do better?98000:52:46.960 --> 00:52:49.360



That way I can get over that feeling. I wouldn't98100:52:49.360 --> 00:52:51.760



allow myself to think that I'm the best thing in98200:52:51.800 --> 00:52:56.079



the world since sliced bread, right, but I would use98300:52:56.119 --> 00:52:58.159



it in contrast to that, I would be like, Okay,98400:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.119



maybe I should have shot it this way, and that98500:53:00.320 --> 00:53:02.440



next time I'll shoot it this way, or next time98600:53:02.480 --> 00:53:05.159



I'll use more more angles, or or I'll use the98700:53:05.239 --> 00:53:06.079



lights differently.98800:53:07.320 --> 00:53:08.760



And slowly I got.98900:53:08.519 --> 00:53:15.639



To see my my own photos improve to myself and99000:53:15.679 --> 00:53:18.199



then just getting the outside feedback, I was able to99100:53:18.239 --> 00:53:22.119



appreciate that more. I was able to turn over some99200:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.480



photos they love it. Then I would feel satisfied in that.99300:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.239



I want to just feel the imposter syndrome where it's like, oh, like,99400:53:28.280 --> 00:53:30.559



I feel bad about turning these over because I'm.99500:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.280



Not happy with them.99600:53:32.400 --> 00:53:34.519



If the if the client is happy with them, then99700:53:34.599 --> 00:53:36.159



then I'd be happy with them.99800:53:36.639 --> 00:53:40.400



Yeah. Sometimes, like I you know, I mean, the thing99900:53:40.400 --> 00:53:42.440



I do when I'm not doing this is writing stuff,100000:53:42.480 --> 00:53:46.159



and and and I've real challenge with if things are100100:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.239



coming together the way I want them to, you know,100200:53:48.800 --> 00:53:51.960



like I don't even want anybody to see it. And and100300:53:51.840 --> 00:53:55.199



that's you know, that's counter productive because it really it100400:53:55.280 --> 00:53:59.840



really messes with your timeline. Yeah. So I wondered if100500:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.519



shof by by talking about just like a couple of100600:54:03.519 --> 00:54:09.280



of influencers, social media influences that we think are actually100700:54:09.320 --> 00:54:12.280



doing a good job. I want to start with a100800:54:12.280 --> 00:54:14.480



guy who was on the show a little bit ago,100900:54:14.719 --> 00:54:17.079



and that's Dan film and Power List Dietitian. I think101000:54:17.199 --> 00:54:20.039



is the information he puts out is legit. It's not101100:54:21.239 --> 00:54:24.199



It's not dramatically different from some of the other folks101200:54:24.199 --> 00:54:26.000



that I that I've been following for a long time.101300:54:26.039 --> 00:54:29.760



I'm kind of leaning Lane Norton and Jordan Sayat and101400:54:29.760 --> 00:54:33.320



that folks out of this because everybody follows them, everybody101500:54:33.400 --> 00:54:42.159



followers whatever. But Dan Filman, Power Power Liat Dietitian a101600:54:42.199 --> 00:54:46.880



good follow always solid information. He he he doesn't post101700:54:46.920 --> 00:54:53.039



anything that he can't back up, really and Uh, he's101800:54:53.960 --> 00:54:56.480



you know, I didn't realize until I had him on101900:54:56.480 --> 00:54:58.400



the show that he's not the tallest guy, but he's jacked,102000:54:58.480 --> 00:55:02.320



and he's a legitimate powerlifter and legitimate us U S102100:55:02.360 --> 00:55:06.960



a p L powerlifter, and so that's he's kind of102200:55:07.000 --> 00:55:10.480



my my first uh my first suggestion. Yeah, you know,102300:55:11.039 --> 00:55:15.639



I I followed him consistently for quite quite a while102400:55:15.719 --> 00:55:17.360



or so, who you.102500:55:17.239 --> 00:55:24.039



Got, I've got doctor Alex Tatum. Uh. I know Sebastian102600:55:24.079 --> 00:55:25.679



has been working with him for a little while on102700:55:25.679 --> 00:55:28.840



on his on the media side, so I've gotten kind102800:55:28.840 --> 00:55:32.719



of glimpses of what he does here and there throughout102900:55:33.360 --> 00:55:36.760



Sebastian's tenure working with him.103000:55:37.119 --> 00:55:39.360



But like the stuff that I've seen, it.103100:55:39.360 --> 00:55:41.920



Would be uh so it'll be doctor like d R103200:55:42.559 --> 00:55:43.199



and then.103300:55:52.239 --> 00:55:53.239



Is either one of them him?103400:55:53.360 --> 00:56:00.880



No, let me see all one word, all.103500:56:00.719 --> 00:56:07.320



One word, no dots. Social media is so strong, I103600:56:07.320 --> 00:56:18.480



can't find him else. No, let me send it to you.103700:56:23.400 --> 00:56:28.000



And he makes a like he's talking about the pharmacceutical103800:56:28.039 --> 00:56:32.440



side a lot more.103900:56:35.639 --> 00:56:36.199



In the way he.104000:56:36.199 --> 00:56:39.639



Talks about it from the videos I've seen, It's super104100:56:40.079 --> 00:56:44.239



digestible for for just like regular people to listen and104200:56:44.679 --> 00:56:49.880



learn Like he's not over complicating things. He's using a104300:56:49.880 --> 00:56:53.079



lot of like references here and there that are easily104400:56:53.119 --> 00:56:56.599



relatable and just spreading the knowledge out there. And I104500:56:56.639 --> 00:56:59.199



think we're at the point where the floodgates are open,104600:57:01.320 --> 00:57:05.440



Like it's not a secret anymore. People are using pharmaceuticals,104700:57:05.480 --> 00:57:09.320



they're using peptides, they're using gear. So I think the104800:57:09.320 --> 00:57:13.239



best approach we can have towards that is education, is104900:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.920



making sure that people know what they're taking, know why105000:57:15.960 --> 00:57:19.159



they're taking it, know how to take it. Because people105100:57:19.159 --> 00:57:21.119



are gonna do what they're going to do regardless of105200:57:21.119 --> 00:57:23.159



what you tell them. We've seen it happen time and105300:57:23.199 --> 00:57:26.800



time again. You can't stop it from happening. So the105400:57:26.840 --> 00:57:30.519



best thing we can do, I think, is to educate everybody.105500:57:31.599 --> 00:57:36.079



That way, we can increase the awareness. People can be105600:57:36.320 --> 00:57:38.760



a lot smarter about the decisions they make when it105700:57:38.800 --> 00:57:43.000



comes to this stuff, and not just throw darts into105800:57:43.079 --> 00:57:46.360



the dark and start pinning just random things here and105900:57:46.400 --> 00:57:49.840



there because some guy on a forum said it, right,106000:57:51.519 --> 00:57:56.960



Having educated fellows like this who know exactly what they're106100:57:57.000 --> 00:57:59.159



talking about, who do all the due diligence and the106200:57:59.199 --> 00:58:04.360



research on these on these products, on these on these things,106300:58:04.400 --> 00:58:07.840



and putting the knowledge out there in what I would say,106400:58:07.840 --> 00:58:11.840



like Layman's terms, for for just everyday people to understand106500:58:12.840 --> 00:58:15.639



is a big service I think to the industry right now,106600:58:15.719 --> 00:58:20.960



especially where we're at, versus not having this knowledge out there.106700:58:21.039 --> 00:58:24.320



Now you've got seventeen year old kids just ordering stuff106800:58:24.360 --> 00:58:28.400



online and doing it all willy nilly, versus Hey, if106900:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.199



they're gonna do it anyways, let's see if we can107000:58:31.880 --> 00:58:35.480



make it as safe as we can, Because, like I said,107100:58:35.519 --> 00:58:37.039



at the end of the day, you're not someone. If107200:58:37.039 --> 00:58:38.480



someone has it in their mind that they're going to107300:58:38.559 --> 00:58:42.199



go do something, you're probably not going to stop them.107400:58:42.440 --> 00:58:49.800



Yeah, that's that's true. Yeah, another one I've got I'm107500:58:49.840 --> 00:59:01.719



gonna have to in. I have the problem of not107600:59:02.039 --> 00:59:13.079



remembering his name ever. I only remember what his tagline is. Yeah,107700:59:13.199 --> 00:59:21.559



Matt West. Uh. He's got a million followers usually I'm usually,107800:59:21.920 --> 00:59:26.159



but I only recently discovered him, so so I'm I'm107900:59:26.239 --> 00:59:34.960



leaving that open. He does a lot of food stuff.108000:59:35.639 --> 00:59:38.559



I've seen this up. Yeah.108100:59:38.639 --> 00:59:41.719



Fox sucks. Yeah, he's also the Foxer sucks guy. So108200:59:41.960 --> 00:59:45.079



like sending people send him recipes or they send send108300:59:45.159 --> 00:59:48.280



him videos that have recipes in them, and then he108400:59:48.360 --> 00:59:52.039



will actually recreate them and and he'll like do them108500:59:52.079 --> 00:59:54.719



the legit way, but he also you know, does the108600:59:54.800 --> 00:59:56.159



to to either make him.108700:59:56.000 --> 00:59:57.800



Taste better or yah, he'll improve.108800:59:58.480 --> 01:00:00.880



Yeah. And and I've actually done a couple of the108901:00:00.920 --> 01:00:03.719



things that he that he you know, a couple of109001:00:04.000 --> 01:00:07.559



the recipes that he has talked about and had pretty109101:00:07.559 --> 01:00:11.559



good luck with them results. Yeah. I mean, so the109201:00:11.679 --> 01:00:16.199



easiest one is this like low calorie mayonnaise. It's like109301:00:16.800 --> 01:00:19.800



the original video used I saw that fried eggs. Yeah,109401:00:19.880 --> 01:00:22.760



he used hard boiled eggs, which why wouldn't you do that?109501:00:22.880 --> 01:00:25.679



And it's like there's there's a you know, a teaspoon109601:00:25.880 --> 01:00:28.719



of of oil in them and a teaspoon of mustard109701:00:28.840 --> 01:00:32.800



and and lemon juice and salt, and it's like that's it,109801:00:33.360 --> 01:00:37.880



and it's it's very eggy, but it's also pretty low calorie.109901:00:38.000 --> 01:00:40.079



Yeah, and it's going to hold you down like when110001:00:40.159 --> 01:00:43.639



you want mayonnaise versus having four hundred calories worth a mayonnaise.110101:00:43.960 --> 01:00:48.159



And I'm not a big mayonnaise guy, but period. But110201:00:48.239 --> 01:00:51.280



the the thing that has kept me from like eating tuna,110301:00:51.320 --> 01:00:57.960



which is like you know, obviously low car good fats. Yeah,110401:00:58.000 --> 01:01:00.679



for the amount that is the mayonnaise part. Uh huh.110501:01:01.360 --> 01:01:03.719



They're like, well, if you can make the mayonnaise.110601:01:04.039 --> 01:01:06.480



In a healthier, a healthier way.110701:01:06.280 --> 01:01:08.119



And you mix it in with your tunic, just try110801:01:08.199 --> 01:01:10.239



tunas it's the worst.110901:01:10.840 --> 01:01:12.880



Yeah, I've been, I've been in the I've been in111001:01:12.920 --> 01:01:19.719



the struggle, nothing, nothing.111101:01:19.880 --> 01:01:25.960



So I feel very strong about what he's doing. Yeah.111201:01:26.000 --> 01:01:29.239



My only gripe with him is maybe this is Australian,111301:01:29.280 --> 01:01:31.320



but instead of saying bone up a teeth, he says111401:01:31.320 --> 01:01:31.840



brought up a.111501:01:31.840 --> 01:01:34.960



Tight okay, boneapple teeth.111601:01:35.679 --> 01:01:39.559



Yeah, but he's jacked. He's a he's a you know,111701:01:40.079 --> 01:01:42.840



he looks legit. I don't know. I don't know. It111801:01:42.880 --> 01:01:45.039



looks like he maybe does some coaching and stuff too.111901:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.039



I'm not paying a lot of it.112001:01:48.159 --> 01:01:50.679



I've seen him come up a few bunch of times112101:01:50.679 --> 01:01:52.519



on my for you page, and what I do like112201:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.440



is he shows the process right, So he's not like112301:01:55.719 --> 01:01:58.119



because I've seen some of the food influencers where they're like, oh,112401:01:58.199 --> 01:02:00.880



let's make a healthy alternative version of it, and it'll112501:02:00.880 --> 01:02:03.559



cut from like the ingredients to the finished product. So112601:02:03.599 --> 01:02:06.679



you never really know if they're actually like using those112701:02:06.800 --> 01:02:10.559



ingredients to make that delicious bowl that they're making or112801:02:10.800 --> 01:02:13.519



this crazy smoothie that they're making. Right, it could just112901:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.320



be some unhealthy monstrosity of ingredients.113001:02:16.920 --> 01:02:19.280



I particularly like that when he can say, oh this113101:02:19.280 --> 01:02:21.159



this sucks, like, yeah, it sucks.113201:02:21.199 --> 01:02:23.079



Just honestly, I wouldn't need this again.113301:02:23.320 --> 01:02:25.440



I don't know how to fix it. It's a disaster.113401:02:26.239 --> 01:02:28.880



Run away, running, you got any more.113501:02:30.559 --> 01:02:33.559



One that I have is I don't know if I've113601:02:33.559 --> 01:02:35.480



only watched a couple of his things. His name is113701:02:35.599 --> 01:02:37.920



James Smith. He's the guy that broke I don't know113801:02:37.920 --> 01:02:40.440



if he completely like was the first one to do it,113901:02:40.480 --> 01:02:43.760



but he's the guy that did the creating gummy scandal.114001:02:43.800 --> 01:02:46.519



Oh yeah, and he like sent things off to the lab.114101:02:48.000 --> 01:02:52.760



The brit Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah he's good. Yeah,114201:02:52.880 --> 01:02:58.800



he's he's legit. I back in UH a few years114301:02:58.800 --> 01:03:01.519



ago when late Lane Norton has to do podcasts I114401:03:01.559 --> 01:03:03.480



haven't listened to yet, and I'm not producing this one.114501:03:03.519 --> 01:03:06.840



I produced the last one, UH and and James Smith114601:03:06.960 --> 01:03:09.079



was a guest on there, and I had not really114701:03:09.159 --> 01:03:11.639



encountered him that much, but I was he edited that114801:03:11.719 --> 01:03:18.599



episode and yeah he's yeah, he's really really legit. Yeah,114901:03:18.639 --> 01:03:22.679



and he's like he's pretty grounded and honest in in115001:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.920



his uh into social media stuff as far as any wickite.115101:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.199



I I don't follow him in around and I'm not115201:03:28.239 --> 01:03:33.440



an English but it seems like he Yeah, he seems he's.115301:03:33.360 --> 01:03:37.480



Very well spoken, he's very well researched from like especially115401:03:37.480 --> 01:03:40.199



like the creating gummy thing, Like he showed all his115501:03:40.280 --> 01:03:43.440



back end work. He he wasn't just like throwing random115601:03:43.519 --> 01:03:45.400



lawsuits out and stuff, and now he did like all115701:03:45.440 --> 01:03:49.000



the backend work to really research the subject and really115801:03:49.000 --> 01:03:51.880



got into it. And I think he did a huge115901:03:51.880 --> 01:03:55.519



service to the industry by calling it out because I116001:03:55.559 --> 01:03:57.400



still have like friends that are a lot more casual116101:03:57.440 --> 01:03:59.719



that'll ask me, hey are these gummies, like like is116201:03:59.719 --> 01:04:00.320



this a good bye?116301:04:00.320 --> 01:04:01.239



And I'll telling the straight up.116401:04:01.280 --> 01:04:03.199



I was like, you're just buy the powder bro like116501:04:03.199 --> 01:04:07.079



it's not hard, just bang for buck, right, like you116601:04:07.159 --> 01:04:08.320



just gonna get so much more.116701:04:08.559 --> 01:04:14.800



Yeah, he's James Smith, just James Smith on on Instagram.116801:04:15.000 --> 01:04:17.599



He's got one million followers.116901:04:17.280 --> 01:04:20.639



To start to get that, he must have started Instagram117001:04:20.639 --> 01:04:24.800



when it first James, he has been around a lot.117101:04:26.320 --> 01:04:27.599



He's been around a long time.117201:04:29.039 --> 01:04:31.039



The most generic like name on the planet.117301:04:31.119 --> 01:04:34.840



Yeah, like, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's like I I started117401:04:34.880 --> 01:04:37.719



social media early and I couldn't get just my name117501:04:37.840 --> 01:04:40.079



anywhere at that point. I also have one of the117601:04:40.079 --> 01:04:45.039



most common names on the planet, especially in the in117701:04:45.079 --> 01:04:50.000



the Western world. Yeah, very very, very common. The two117801:04:50.039 --> 01:04:53.039



different spellings of my last name, or the third most117901:04:53.159 --> 01:04:57.079



common surname in Scotland for having's sake, So that's crazy.118001:04:57.199 --> 01:04:58.880



A bunch of versions of McDonald's.118101:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.679



Yeah. Then, and there used to be a site called118201:05:01.719 --> 01:05:03.719



how many of Me you put in your name? And118301:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.960



you see how many in the United States, and it118401:05:07.079 --> 01:05:10.639



was like sixteen hundred. Have the guys have the combination118501:05:10.679 --> 01:05:13.679



of my first name last name? Yeah, that's crazy. Not118601:05:13.800 --> 01:05:16.960



middle named was a little smaller, but you know, and118701:05:17.000 --> 01:05:22.800



I'm a junior or so what the hell? Uh anymore, guys.118801:05:22.480 --> 01:05:26.599



I've got a like, I'll say, someone like Wesley Visitors.118901:05:27.559 --> 01:05:27.960



I don't know.119001:05:28.239 --> 01:05:36.760



He's a bodybuilder, classic physique spell for me, so Wesley.119101:05:36.679 --> 01:05:41.079



He'll probably come up quick and then vissers that third119201:05:41.119 --> 01:05:48.320



one down, this one, no, yeah, the third one.119301:05:48.159 --> 01:05:50.920



That actually has a right under your keyboard.119401:05:52.599 --> 01:05:57.880



That one, Okay, another mille following guy, But.119501:05:58.599 --> 01:06:00.719



So he yeah, he's he's pretty big.119601:06:00.760 --> 01:06:04.280



I would say he's missing out on the Olympia this119701:06:04.360 --> 01:06:07.000



year because he had like a big surgery.119801:06:08.760 --> 01:06:10.360



But like I've followed.119901:06:10.039 --> 01:06:12.239



Him on YouTube for a while now, I watched his120001:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.079



videos and he does a really good job at taking120101:06:15.119 --> 01:06:19.239



you through what it's like being like an Olympia caliber bodybuilder,120201:06:19.679 --> 01:06:22.360



where he does like he did the whole what I120301:06:22.400 --> 01:06:24.880



eat in the day thing before a lot of like120401:06:25.000 --> 01:06:30.079



Instagram caught onto it. He'll show recipes like how he120501:06:30.159 --> 01:06:33.000



preps is his meals and stuff, like his creamer rice120601:06:33.039 --> 01:06:34.960



recipe I think was like one of the early ones120701:06:34.960 --> 01:06:38.400



that got really popular where he showed it step by120801:06:38.480 --> 01:06:40.639



step every ingredient how to make like the cream of120901:06:40.719 --> 01:06:42.559



rice that he that he partakes in.121001:06:44.000 --> 01:06:48.280



His positivity in the sports like, it's very.121101:06:50.119 --> 01:06:50.519



Missed.121201:06:50.719 --> 01:06:54.400



I feel like in the past few years where someone121301:06:54.440 --> 01:06:58.360



like him who zero enemies right comes in very respectful121401:06:58.360 --> 01:07:01.599



of all his opponents, very respectful of all his fans especially,121501:07:01.920 --> 01:07:07.639



always takes time out to interact with people, just like121601:07:07.679 --> 01:07:11.119



a genuinely good guy to look up to for the121701:07:11.199 --> 01:07:14.760



younger crowd, I would say, versus some of the more121801:07:14.840 --> 01:07:19.519



toxic like influencers that we have out, they kind of121901:07:19.519 --> 01:07:20.920



get too much spotlight.122001:07:21.280 --> 01:07:22.719



I feel like Wesley's kind.122101:07:22.559 --> 01:07:27.199



Of the opposite of that, where he is very deserving122201:07:27.280 --> 01:07:30.119



of the spotlight because he does set a great example122301:07:30.159 --> 01:07:31.280



for everybody to follow.122401:07:33.039 --> 01:07:34.199



Even through his workouts.122501:07:34.239 --> 01:07:37.119



He's very like well versed in how to how to122601:07:37.280 --> 01:07:40.079



educate people on them, Like he slows everything down. He'll like,122701:07:40.119 --> 01:07:43.159



if he's explaining a lift, he'll break it down completely122801:07:44.239 --> 01:07:48.039



for anyone to pick up on it. So like I'll122901:07:48.079 --> 01:07:51.199



watch him when when I'm learning like a new movement123001:07:51.320 --> 01:07:53.880



or something, or if I'm trying something out, because like123101:07:53.960 --> 01:07:58.199



the cues that he uses to grasp the lifts mentally, like.123201:07:58.480 --> 01:08:05.360



They're always really good and just a great guy. Bless you.123301:08:05.480 --> 01:08:07.159



I just wanted to throw out just a couple of123401:08:07.239 --> 01:08:10.079



honorable mentions just because they're there are a couple of123501:08:10.119 --> 01:08:12.239



other guys that that are that are quite popular. I123601:08:12.280 --> 01:08:14.320



don't really need to dive into their stuff too much,123701:08:14.360 --> 01:08:19.399



but uh, if you're looking for people who like to123801:08:19.479 --> 01:08:23.479



call out other specific social media influencers about things that123901:08:23.479 --> 01:08:27.319



they say that are stupid, James Kappola is very good124001:08:27.520 --> 01:08:33.399



at that, and he's got a pretty good like he's124101:08:33.439 --> 01:08:37.439



sort of balanced approach that he's not trying to look perfect,124201:08:37.479 --> 01:08:40.880



he's just trying to be strong and look good. And124301:08:41.399 --> 01:08:45.520



again had the body dysmorphia, the eating disorder, you know,124401:08:45.880 --> 01:08:49.840



exercise bolima, that that kind of stuff before. And then124501:08:49.880 --> 01:08:52.199



one that I have come around to lately because I124601:08:52.239 --> 01:08:54.920



had some bias against this person is Zach Talender.124701:08:55.279 --> 01:08:58.640



Oh Zach Okay, Yeah, I watch a lot of Zach.124801:08:58.880 --> 01:09:02.239



Yeah, I've I've started recently. Again. Another I don't know124901:09:02.399 --> 01:09:04.960



what is to his follower count is it's a huge.125001:09:04.760 --> 01:09:08.439



Egger Now, Yeah, he's.125101:09:07.119 --> 01:09:09.600



Really he's really popped off a lot lately. But I125201:09:09.600 --> 01:09:14.039



think his content has maybe gotten more personal in some ways.125301:09:14.319 --> 01:09:19.600



Yeah, not as some would say cloud chase, Yeah, cloud chasing,125401:09:19.640 --> 01:09:21.399



it's more Yeah, it's more genuine.125501:09:21.439 --> 01:09:26.239



It's more genuine. Yeah. Yeah, like these people that do125601:09:26.239 --> 01:09:28.600



not need our help to create more following. But at125701:09:28.640 --> 01:09:32.319



the same time, like if you if you were turned125801:09:32.359 --> 01:09:38.079



off by anything that he said before, you probably could125901:09:38.079 --> 01:09:42.880



reevaluate now because it's good information. He's doing other stuff126001:09:42.880 --> 01:09:44.079



that he's done before.126101:09:44.079 --> 01:09:46.520



So that that's one thing I've liked about that because126201:09:46.520 --> 01:09:49.840



I followed him for a while now, like throughout the whole,126301:09:49.840 --> 01:09:53.680



like weightlifting, like Olympic weightlifting journey, and then like when126401:09:53.720 --> 01:09:56.279



he was doing like the the lift and talk in126501:09:56.319 --> 01:10:00.840



the backyard until where he is at now, watching him126601:10:00.920 --> 01:10:05.399



kind of grow through that, like mentally and like his126701:10:05.439 --> 01:10:07.119



opinions changing, And.126801:10:09.359 --> 01:10:13.840



That's been nice to see.126901:10:12.359 --> 01:10:16.239



How he's allowed himself to grow. He hasn't boxed himself127001:10:16.239 --> 01:10:20.880



into a certain mentality like what some people will do,127101:10:20.960 --> 01:10:24.720



where they will remain very steadfast in the mentality whether127201:10:24.760 --> 01:10:28.159



it's right or wrong, right, they won't change for anything,127301:10:28.199 --> 01:10:32.920



like Zach becoming a lot more personal on his social media,127401:10:33.039 --> 01:10:36.640



like allowing people in and seeing what it's like to127501:10:36.680 --> 01:10:41.920



be like he's an aspiring music artist now yeah, and127601:10:42.039 --> 01:10:44.840



just the hardships that come with that, balancing that with127701:10:44.920 --> 01:10:51.520



the gym, just him improving himself physically, mentally and emotionally.127801:10:51.560 --> 01:10:54.279



I think has been like I enjoy seeing people go127901:10:54.399 --> 01:10:59.960



through that. That's very much so more relatable to regular128001:11:00.199 --> 01:11:04.199



people like us because we see like you can relate128101:11:04.239 --> 01:11:06.039



to that. You can be like, Okay, he's going through128201:11:06.079 --> 01:11:09.359



the struggle, so me going through the struggle isn't isn't128301:11:09.399 --> 01:11:09.840



as bad.128401:11:10.920 --> 01:11:13.359



I think that this is something I touched about, touched128501:11:13.399 --> 01:11:19.239



on with the guests from last week that that positive128601:11:19.279 --> 01:11:23.920



content works a lot better for me now than negative content.128701:11:24.159 --> 01:11:26.039



But some people thrive on negative content.128801:11:26.119 --> 01:11:28.760



Yeah, like the call out culture, and well even a128901:11:29.399 --> 01:11:31.640



kind of is okay to me because it's like you're129001:11:31.640 --> 01:11:33.920



trying to hold trying to hold people to a standard129101:11:34.720 --> 01:11:37.600



as opposed to just othering people, you know.129201:11:37.640 --> 01:11:42.319



Like rage baiting. I saw someone on Instagram.129301:11:42.399 --> 01:11:44.479



I can't remember which account it was recently, but they129401:11:44.479 --> 01:11:47.319



were saying they were talking about how they hate to129501:11:47.399 --> 01:11:51.640



see coaches, like up and coming coaches, especially build their129601:11:51.760 --> 01:11:56.359



their social media their platforms on rage baiting or on129701:11:56.520 --> 01:11:59.840



like callouts because in the like in the short term,129801:11:59.840 --> 01:12:02.760



that might be what's hitting on the algorithm, and they129901:12:02.840 --> 01:12:04.600



might blow up because of that and they might get130001:12:04.640 --> 01:12:08.960



a bunch of hate follows or drama follows and stuff130101:12:08.960 --> 01:12:12.479



like that. But if they don't build their platform on130201:12:12.520 --> 01:12:16.720



the actual coaching, on the actual educational side of it,130301:12:16.880 --> 01:12:21.039



where they're posting more positive stuff, even if it gets130401:12:21.159 --> 01:12:24.199



less engagement, right, Like, that's more sustainable in the long130501:12:24.279 --> 01:12:27.119



run versus building a platform on rage.130601:12:27.960 --> 01:12:29.840



Yeah, it's hard to you run out of things that130701:12:29.880 --> 01:12:30.399



get mad.130801:12:30.239 --> 01:12:35.119



About, and especially like that clout chasy kind of platform130901:12:35.279 --> 01:12:37.159



can only work for so long, and we've seen it131001:12:37.199 --> 01:12:38.840



time and time again where guys will blow up and131101:12:38.880 --> 01:12:41.880



then they'll disappear because they run out of things to131201:12:42.000 --> 01:12:45.439



rage bait on, or the gimmick gets old and people131301:12:45.479 --> 01:12:48.880



grow past it and they decide they move on. Versus131401:12:48.920 --> 01:12:52.159



I've seen guys blow not even blow up, but grow131501:12:52.279 --> 01:12:54.960



slowly from a smaller following to a bigger following where131601:12:54.960 --> 01:13:00.960



they consistently post educational stuff, positive stuff, actual full information,131701:13:01.199 --> 01:13:05.399



or actual creative talent. Like if it's a like a131801:13:05.439 --> 01:13:08.920



media guy and he's showing like he's posting like his131901:13:08.920 --> 01:13:12.479



his cinematics, and slowly you watch them improve, you watch132001:13:12.520 --> 01:13:15.520



them get better. That that's more sustainable in the long run.132101:13:15.560 --> 01:13:19.640



That's more positive for the algorithm, I believe, than just132201:13:19.880 --> 01:13:22.079



loading it up with a bunch of rage based slop,132301:13:23.159 --> 01:13:25.319



which I think is kind of the issue with social132401:13:25.399 --> 01:13:27.960



media right now. Like every other post I see in132501:13:28.000 --> 01:13:32.079



fitness in the fitness space is some science based versus132601:13:32.119 --> 01:13:33.640



bro science like post.132701:13:34.079 --> 01:13:36.760



Yeah yeah, I know, I saw one yesterday where somebody132801:13:36.920 --> 01:13:40.520



was like, you know, talking about just just get stronger132901:13:40.560 --> 01:13:43.840



or whatever, and it's like, yeah, it's true, but what133001:13:43.880 --> 01:13:48.640



you're railing against is people who are majoring in the minors.133101:13:48.680 --> 01:13:52.079



You're not. It's not science that you're against. Really, it's133201:13:52.159 --> 01:13:55.159



people who get caught up in the minutia, like but yeah,133301:13:55.399 --> 01:13:57.600



if that content's not for you, then don't.133401:13:57.439 --> 01:13:58.680



Consent, don't consume it.133501:13:58.920 --> 01:14:02.680



Pretty easy, you know, they're not We're not force fed.133601:14:02.760 --> 01:14:06.000



We're a little bit force fed on the algorithm. But133701:14:06.000 --> 01:14:08.079



but you know, you don't actually have to engage with133801:14:08.119 --> 01:14:09.439



it if you don't want to. If you know that133901:14:09.520 --> 01:14:11.920



this person doesn't doesn't have content that you're interested in,134001:14:11.960 --> 01:14:13.079



the scroll past it.134101:14:13.439 --> 01:14:16.319



Instagram has this feature where you can you can hit134201:14:16.479 --> 01:14:19.640



not interested. Yeah, and if you do that long enough,134301:14:19.680 --> 01:14:22.039



it'll it'll get rid of the algorithm.134401:14:22.760 --> 01:14:24.880



Okay, well I think that's pretty good for today. Jerry.134501:14:24.880 --> 01:14:26.920



Where can people find you if you want them to?134601:14:28.760 --> 01:14:32.039



Jerry Kilos on Instagram all one word. You can find134701:14:32.039 --> 01:14:35.520



me here at Third Street. Come on, buy for a134801:14:36.199 --> 01:14:37.600



training session, Come on buy.134901:14:39.399 --> 01:14:39.880



That's it.135001:14:40.840 --> 01:14:41.359



I know you too.135101:14:41.479 --> 01:14:43.199



Yeah, no, nothing, no nothing.135201:14:43.319 --> 01:14:45.800



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to you next week, no stop,