Threads vs. Twitter, Zuck vs. Musk, over-the-counter tests vs. lab tests?

0:10 Welcome to the hot part of July. It's moving. That's not too bad though, you know, well, yeah, I mean right now and I think ninety seven today, but like one hundred and eight by the weekend or something like that. Fucking Phoenix Arizona kind of ship. Yeah, but normally I feel like May, you know, like we're dying in May because we're not used to it yet. Yeah, well even then it's like nineties. But we've had like eighties. Yeah, I know. Yeah, we've had like an amazing spring. Yeah, it's been very nice, extended spring. Yeah. That's like the faults or the negative people say about North Color, Stockermunt in particular. I guess the whole Central Valley Medesto, Stockton frozeno is like there's only really two seasons. Yeah, you get like a pretty cold forties, fifties, some rain, or you just fucking melt. But we've had a pretty good even even even fall. I feel like, you know, we had a couple of six seventies and then it got real wet and yeah, kind of rainy, but very very wet winter, very very I'll take a little heat. I don't really care. I'm not the biggest fan of heat honestly. Yeah, but I don't know. I don't really like cold either. Yeah. I'd like to find a consistent temperature and just kind of stay there. That'd be I mean, that's why LA's La. Yeah, right, that's why everyone says they move there. You get seventy year round, literally, yeah, and unless you don't, in which case people are really bitch. Yeah when it gets hot or it gets cold, yeah, or it was super I think they had a super wet spring, like wetter than us. Yeah they did. Yeah. I think they even have flooding this year, which is rare. And then it depends where you live, like La is so big. Yeah, you know, California is way

1:42 more giant than everyone listening thinks, and Las even bigger than you think too. So yeah, you're overall there on like Malibu and Santa Monica. Yeah, it's gonna be seventy five and beautiful all year. But you go Inland, it'll get eighties nineties, it'll get your ass where the Norkel two, Right, you go an hour away to San Francisco and it's probably sixty to day. Oh, I'm sure it's sixty to day. Yeah. We're always there. Last week and they're pretty consistent. Yeah, it's cold in the summer, and it's cold in the winter. It's cold in the winter, and spring and fall in the Bay Area is really the best. Yeah, I don't even mind. Yeah, there's summer and I don't really mind that fag either. Actually, kind of like the North Held Coast, if you're prepared for it, it doesn't matter, you know, yeah, like living in it, and it's not that wet. Yeah, it's different than like Seattle, which is like it's wet so much that you it can affect your mood for sure, even Sacramento being pretty extreme weather's summer winters. I think it. You don't have to like change your life, like if you live in like Michigan, you have to change your life by season, right, like your actual wardrobe changes. You have to get up an hour earlier because you gotta defroster your car, like your entire roads closed. Like actually, you know, like you literally your lives are different from month to month.

2:58 Here, I don't feel like I ride my bike a little more in the summer, but that's like I'm one of one. Most people drive off. Yes, it's like the worst that it gets during the day. Most of the time in the winter is in the fifties, fifty five, fifty four or whatever, mornings are a little cold. But even then it's like maybe a jacket. Yeah, like someone just asked about a good company jacket. I don't need to think about jackets because I wear hoodies. It's a little too warm. Yeah, that that hoodie that's coming, pretty nice thing. Yeah. But even in the winter, you know, like the times I wear a jacket are so rare. Yeah, Boston. When I travel to Boston or New York, I will wear one, but it just kind of I don't know, just layers or whatever. You know. Yeah, it was wet, so you got to wear some ship. Yeah, I'm okay with wearing a hoodie with a with a you know, kind of a light rain jacket over it. A lout of the winter if it's you know, if it's super windy or whatever. Yeah, we do have wind. Yes, Um, this is scintillating part of the conversation. We're talking about the weather. That's you know, the the Fight of the Century, the one it was really good USC card. I haven't been watching USC as much as I wanted as international fight weeks, so I tapped in great fights over the weekend, but the one and it sounds like it's going to UFC. They have a they have a UFC shirt. The shirt was real. I know the shirt was real. I know they've talked to Dana Zuckerberg versus Musk into octagon. That's so crazy. And they're both training. They're with fucking Lex Friedman and they're with GSP and they're running around. But what's funny to me,

4:32 I mean, it's not that funny, But what's interesting to me is that they automatically, like jiu jitsu is so popular on the internet, Like it's so trendy that they're both just doing jiu jitsu where like, and it's mixed martial arts. Yeah, and obviously you need jiu jitsu, but like fights, you know, or a lot there's a lot of stand up in the UFC now, so like and if yeah, if if I'm more athletic, which I don't know who's more athletic, but all off the rip, it's probably the robot. It's probably zuck Yeah, you know, Elon just I don't know, man, he moves really gangly, like he just looks like a sack of potatoes and so like, and not that zucks some fucking models, is you know Zuck literally is uh Star Trek? Fucking Who's Star Trek? That smart dude Sea. There's more data that either one. He's just some fucking robot and out of space. Yeah, but he uh, he already knows some jiu jitsu. Yeah, so if I'm him, I mean obviously and maybe not obviously, but in my opinion, neither of these guys are primo athletes. But no, but if I already know some jiu jitsu, yeah, I'm just practicing punching motherfuckers. I'm just gonna. I'm gonna. And if they actually hate each other, which it seems like they really don't like each other, yeah, I'm trying to knock a dude out.

5:46 Yeah, I'm I'm fucking working on my hook and I'm gonna knock the fuck out of Elon. I don't really like that them either, one of them that much. No, I mean either. I am cheering for Zuck just because it's so funny, you know, like his his barbecue videos. There's just something more funny about him. Although I just see Jesse Eisenberg every time I look at him from social network. That's that's all I ever see. Yeah, he played that real pretty good. I take that movie as gospel, even though I know it's not. Yeah there, yeah, it probably is. It's probably close. Uh yeah. They both kind of suck then once you unravel the dark the layers. I think they're both darker than we want to admit to. You know, everyone kind of sees it was duck, but people don't see it. Yeah with Elon, but they will in like five years, just like how corrupt they probably both are. Oh, I think people see it really people love Elon? No, I think, well, I mean people do. Yeah, for sure. There are definitely stands out there for him, but there's a shit tone, yeah, but there are. I mean a lot of people know that he didn't really start Tesla, yeah, I mean he he essentially bought Tesla. A lot of Tesla's development that's been off of the back of government funding, yeah, of course. Yeah, and even SpaceX right, it's always yeah, it's always partner of in that stuff there. Tesla's funny, Like I don't think I've talked about on the thing, but like I remember hearing about Tesla and like, oh five my best friend's dad, oh five, oh six, my best friend's dad was a financial guy. I made pretty good money, and I don't know why I didn't. I knew he was into cars, but I didn't know. I don't know. I'm fucking fifteen. I don't

7:18 know anything. But I go into his office. I basually lived at their houses on the weekend, and he's got all his monitors and ship and he's like work on one. He's like, Mikey, like, look at this. And it was like the first roadster they're making, like all drawn, you know, it was just like teasing what's coming. He's like, dude, we're going electric. I'm putting my name in. I'm buying this thing. Look how fast it is? Like yeah, because when the first roadstery it was like one hundred k or something. It was like a straight sports car. He's like, yeah, we're gonna get that. I don't think he ever got it, but I remember hearing it back about it. Back then, I was like, oh, that's so weird. And then now you hear about a new fucking electric thing every weekend. Yeah. Yeah, we're kind of living in that time for sure, but not a lot to fruition. Where's my truck? You're cybertruck? I didn't buy it, all got duped. Man. I remember every friend of mine's like, yeah, I threw one hundred and fifty out of them, say goodbye to that.

8:09 Yeah that was like five years ago. Yeah, and he said it's coming out in a year. Yeah, reserve your tesla. That's got to be like suable. Well, I mean Microsoft used to do that with software that they didn't really anymore, but it would never come out. Uh yeah, yeah that sucks. People suck. Yeah. It's called vaporware. Yeah, where you you promote something that doesn't exist yet and people buy into it. I understand that. Like, but if it can, it's got a calm Yeah, eventually. But I mean a lot of the ways that Microsoft solved that you know sort of thing was by buying companies that were already doing it and then just absorbing them. Yeah, which makes sense when you got that much money. But I would like to wash out fight. And it also made me think of we talked about it a couple times here, like the world we're living in is idiocracy and also like non conspiratorial. But you guys can take it how you want, like like media of the past foreshadows our future, and you remember MTV Celebrity Deathmatch. Oh yeah, do you remember that. So there's a show on MTV that they had, like Claymation, shitty Claymation, and they would have these celebrities fight each other, right, and they would be Eminem versus Britney Spears and they'd wrestle in like a WWE ring. Wow, that shit's fucking happening like it happened in YouTube, right, That's right, that's like the B League. No one really knows.

9:26 Mainstream doesn't care because it's like a couple of big name YouTubers, but most of them are just like mid level to higher level YouTubers, which the world doesn't know. A year later, we got fucking Elong and and Zuck. We even had like sports guys do it right, like a frank, gorgeous boxed Adrian Peterson, I think, you know. And they don't have as much hype because they also missed the Internet generation by a little bit. You know, they're more popular in the early two thousands. They missed like the not the Internet, but the social media, so their popularity isn't as big. But there's another thing, dude, The Internet so fucked. I don't know what's real or not is Tom Brady dating a Kardashian. Oh, I have no idea. That's a good question, and then shout out to my boy, Hayden Schneider a lonnie many of you might know, just did a gig with Kim Kardashian and I saw a lot of controversy on it. Yea, I saw that too. The fuck your controversy, man, Like, I'm not a business as business guy, but like, if you have the opportunity to partner with the most famous person walking the planet or at least top five, and you successfully do that, give a man as Rosman, shout out to Hayden, shout out to his wife, shout out to a Lonnie, Like, that's so awesome to see someone come from what we do.

10:39 She was a instagrammer to now partnering with the biggest celebrity on the planet through a supplement company that is crushing it. And I give them all the props. That doesn't just happen, you know. People are like I saw like a whole Twitter thread like, oh they should have chosen this person or that. Fuck you. You go start your company and you partner whoever you want, you know, like it's just it's just so common, like the punching up or whatever. You know, here's my thought on it. If somebody is like like truly a terrible, terrible person, regardless of their celebrity, maybe don't partner with them. But the Kardashians are just annoying. Yeah, she's not a murderer, and um, they didn't do an O. J.

11:24 Simpson drink. No, the chance that of to the chance that you would get to see the inside of that ship, yeah, like how her operation functions, and you know, like how how you would be able to tell how on top of it she is and how much of it is is is designated to other people, you know, all that stuff you would you would see that you have just the insight that you get from that would totally be worth the experience that too. And to me, it's like you don't get that opportunity unless you already set your table. So for me, it's like more props to recognize that they've earned that. Yeah, Kim Kardashian is a knocking on our door, right, there's no way to make that happen, even if we had right now a billion dollars to say, hey, Kim, shout out our hat that's not happening. You have to you have to build your house. And they built a Lonnie to such a level that her or her people recognize that this is a possible partnership, you know what I mean. That's where I give the props, like the actual partnership.

12:26 Whether it makes money or not, I don't know. I don't care. But like you've built something to the highest level of business in the world. Yeah, if you're getting somebody of that nature to recognize you, yeah, no for sure. And I don't Yeah, I don't know how you say no to that. Yeah, people like she doesn't lift and all that. I'm like, that's fine, Like obviously, like Hayden's a big meat head and Katie comes from the finite background and but like that doesn't mean every single person, like you sponsor. Every company now has a variety of models in our space, you know, whether it's big small company, apparel companies, they use different models that look like they lift, that don't look like they lift. Not everybody's a bodybuilder, and if you want to be successful, you have to try new things. And then also like if it's cool, like if if I don't know how to say it, but like that's just I think it's just pure hate. Rade. I think it's just pure I think that that's true because if it was you, you'd be about it, right, You'd be like, dude, I'm working with the Kardashians, Like yeah, that's fucking cool. Yeah, Like like why wouldn't you. Yeah.

13:31 The other thing too, is that I mean the people who are making this commentary don't know how difficult collaborations actually are to pull off or period the business. They're probably not running a business. Anyone who's running a business is giving them props. Yeah, it's everyone who's like sponsored by people or you know, I don't think it was here. There's someone weird interview, but they're basically like I think it was. It might have been Shali, but he was like yeah, like I don't want to be sponsored anymore. I want to be the guy sponsoring people. Like that's always the answer. That's the thing I don't understand about some of you know, some of the higher mid level, lower upper level influencer types who have their own businesses but also takes take sponsorships. To me, it's like if you put a trailer for your movie on YouTube, but you monetize it like, that's that seems like a hat on a hat, you're double dipping their I think, at least from like my point of view, I would do it if it's a product I truly believe in that I'll never bake, you know, like a food one or something, or maybe not never might because you never know what the fuck I'm gonna do. Or two it's the support of homie. Yeah, and so I know a lot of my friends are like that. You know, like Guzman I think is still sponsored by Ghost but he's friends with owners, you know, so like I think that's cool. Um, but I agree, I agree, it's kind of like to me, it's more though, like the mid level people that don't have businesses, that haven't even like and this is no insult. Everyone's on their own path and takes their own

15:03 time, but they haven't even opened their brain to be like, oh, I'm like being sponsored only like go build some shit. Yeah you know that's kind of like, and build like your own shit, don't just do what everyone else is doing. Yeah, for sure? The um what was I gonna say? I think that the thing that surprises me is that even in this age with social media being what roughly twenty roughly twenty years old now something like that. Yeah, I mean YouTube's oh seven, yeah, my Space is fifteen plus yeah, now probably twenty because my Space, I guess would be the first one ever, right or AOL messenger that it's still such a sport to tear people down. Yeah, yeah, you would think, which is one of our topic one want to dive into, Like Twitter threads, debate the threads thing. Someone said it right now, they're like, threads right now is is culture in humor and Twitter is news. And they said something else. I was like, all right, it is kind of like that right now. And obviously when you bring news, you bring politics, and it's going to be a little more clashy on Twitter where so far, even though some people respond to me kind of fucking hot for no reason, Like I had a couple of tweets that or threads or whatever the fuck they're called. I think, yeah, I had a couple of threads that just like got a little bit of traction. So people that don't know what I am or what I do saw it and commented back and they just came in

16:33 hot. And I'm like, and I'm if anyone follows me on any social media. I'm not throwing out real shit, you know, Like today I talked about low socks. You know, I'm talking about nothing, like I'm fucking talking about trash. The other one I was talking about I was hating. I was hating, but in the form of comedy because the term unhinged is being used a lot. And then every woman from Instagram, men too, but mostly women sorry ladies, came out saying like, oh, you guys are done now, like I'm unhinged on threads and then I read their threads and they're talking about They're talking about their law taste, and I'm like, well, yeah, or like, you guys are going to see the real personality and then there's no personality. So like I threw some shit at that out and someone came in hot about that, but it was like a dude coming at me. I don't know. But long story short, I thought Threads may stay tame and cultural and more pocket one because our niche is already built out because of Instagram. Instagram. Yeah, so you're tied into your niche already rather than Twitter. Even my Twitter's all over the place.

17:36 Most I do the for you mostly, and it's no one I know which I like and don't like. But then the other thing is that your your life and identities tied to threads. Yeah, I clickly click that Instagram and I'll see you're a fucking bitch and you're fucking coming at me, you know, and you're fucking coming about my dead listening. It's like Instagram, but Instagram's fucked up too. There's trolls there and I can clearly you know, they're talking on my deadlift and I click on the page. They don't know how the deadlift. So like, obviously, because everyone says that's the issue of the internet, right, it is like no one's been punched in the face for doing the wrong thing, and like you wouldn't talk to me in person this way and being anonymous and all these things. But now in the Internet age, there's levels anonymous. There's face to face. Obviously you're not anonymous, but like even Instagram is like a middle level level of anonymous because I'll do a Q and a where I can see your fucking profile and people ask very typical shit, Mike, my deadlist stuck and my bench this and how do you open a gym? And then I'll do the anonymous one where I literally can't see who's asking the question, and there's way more questions and everything's fucking talk about unhinged, it actually gets unhinged. I've never done on those probably for that reason. Yeah, it gets crazy, it gets crazy, and like it's fun. Obviously it's funny. But yeah, they're what you would say on your Instagram. You would, for sure. I'll not tell me in person. Yeah, you know, but I can still see you, like I see your fucking face, you know, right or not?

19:06 They're not always private profiles or your picture yeah, or a picture yeah, yeah, I know something about you, and a lot of them are public profiles, so I can score around, like I see your wife, I see your fucking kids. Keep talking shit. Yeah, I don't know people I don't know. I think that it's been proven too that there are ways to engage for those people that actually get them on your side and they're like more for you than they were ever against you. Yeah they're yeah, they're just they're lost in the sauce. For sure. I do try to be nice. But did you know that Threads was coming? Do you know anything about it at all? Ahead of time? I read about it a couple months ago, but it was I thought it was gonna be the Tesla truck. I thought would come out in like five years. I think maybe I just sort of glancing blow on that information at some point but didn't really know. And then yeah, I didn't dive into it. I just saw a thing that Instagram or Zuck was making a Twitter competitor, but but everyone was and they don't give like good timelines, so I didn't expect it just roll out. And then yeah, I think the day of I signed up, I happen to see in um in my Instagram notifications that somebody that I follow had posted for the first time on threads. I'm like, what the fuck is threads? So I google it and I and I see what the story is, and there's like how to how to actually get onto threads since I just did it, and I I think I have the lowest Threads number of anybody that I personally know. It's like one hundred and thirties thousands something

20:37 like that, and there's like one hundred billion now oh people. Yes, yeah, as a couple of days ago, I don't know where it is now. Yeah, the number when you sign up is that the number that's like codd on me. That's a little futuristic. So go to your Instagram. I'm a million, you think think like four or five. Yeah, I'm a million. I'm a million, one hundred thou I'm eleven eleven eight seven, four to seven six. Yeah. See, now we're getting into some sci fi movies where that's gonna be tatted on my forehead probably. Yeah, yeah, you know, Zuck might do that himself. Might just come in and and the overard session with you and just oh roll was Zuck. Yeah, it's all right, Where did it go? Where's my number?

21:18 This is great radio right here? Why is it not showing up? Uh? Oh here it is one hundred and sixty eighty ninety one. I was pretty good. Yeah, I don't know who I saw, but yeah, someone hit me up and then and then it was weird though, because you go to the appy type in threads and it's not threads. It probably is now, but when I did it, it was some other threads. Yeah, there's another, definitely another. Yeah, but that was at the top. Oh yeah, yeah for sure. Now I'm sure the one. Yeah, for sure. I think it's cool. It's fun so far. There's it's literally but what I don't like is in the middle of that, and I guess it probably is smart, but in the middle of the change, they mess with stuff on Instagram and automatically mess with stuff there, So like everything's a little weird, you know. Yeah, we're some things you expected just automatically transfer because it's it's literally an Instagram version of Twitter. That's like if you're trying to figure out how to use it, that's literally what it is. Yeah, but there's features that happen on Instagram that don't happen there that should So I think they just changed it today. But like you would click I would have a bunch a gathering of followers, and so it just says like five people followed you and just yea, and so you click on that and expecting to see a list of just those people you weren't getting.

22:32 Yeah, we're on Instagram. That obviously happens. And I think it happens now or now they're doing like one by ones unless it happens real fast. Yeah, it's definitely one by ones now because I don't think it's I don't think that followers are coming over as fast as they were. Yeah, people aren't adopting it as quickly as they were the first few days. Yeah. The other thing I just noticed yesterday is that Instagram changed back how you share stuff. Yeah, because it used to be that it was all on the little paper airplane again. I mean it moved down there and now it's if you're if you're trying to share outside of Instagram, then it's back up to the three dots again. Yeah, yeah, which is like fine. It is weird how they're all starting to become the same, which is good though, Like the more sharing is a normal button, yeah, like give you that arrow buttons kind of new the scheme of the internet, yeah, you know, and so like that's all good. Yeah, I'm having fun so far. It's actually a decent mix of algorithms so far from me too, where I get some people I followed for sure, some I don't. The surprise to me is the people that I've followed for a long time who were not showing up through my Instagram are now showing up in threats. Yeah, because the algorithm on Instagram is so heavy, right, Like if you don't interact with a post, they might just disappear on your ass, yeah, which is good and bad. And then obviously we've been on there for so long that it comes in waves of who's active and not. Then it all ties in algorithms are getting strong, and I don't know if that's good culturally, um for the world or brains the other day that I thought it was a pretty good observation that, like, it's not good for the world if

24:03 Twitter just becomes a total right wing thing and and and Threads becomes more of a left wing thing. I literally click on it, and I go on Twitter and people are making fun of Elon or sorry, making fun of Zuck. And then I go on Threads and people are making fun of Elon, right, you know, and so like that's like the bare bones, but that's where we're headed. But yeah, but it really should be about what the product is and not not not the people, unless unless you feel like that you know, it's ill gotten gains or whatever. There's some of that for sure. But Elon's obviously a little bit more vocal about some of his beliefs, and he's trolls all over Twitter, so like, is that hair of truth when he trolls? You know, so you can never know because he's a weird fuck. And then Zuck obviously has been caught up in some political things with the whole Facebook stuff, so you never know. So we're already, like you said, yeah, the product and people already niche them into their political views, whether they've never come out and say it like hey, this is my political view on this and that and that. But the world has. But he's changed, yeah, a bunch. He used to be more more kind of libertarian, a little more left leaning, a little more a little European, and which he is now he's moved. Yeah, he's not really, he's African. But still. Yeah, you were reading their book or was it my mom? Your mom? Yeah, because she said they basically didn't have a home, that his dad was a pilot.

25:21 I think, oh yeah, they just like flew family. Just the family would fly all over everywhere. His entire life beside the point his mom is scary, by the way, Yeah, I think the whole all of them are weird. I mean, anybody at that level is a fucking weirdo. And that's what the point is, right, Like everyone knows you talked. If I like wanted to run a semi manipulative interview, you know how they do on the streets on TikTok. Hey do you think most CEOs are crazy and narcissistic? Oh? Yeah, I've heard studies they're all crazy. I'm like, oh, you know. And then I'll ask a few more questions. I'll say, hey, what do you think about Elon? Oh? I love Elon? Or what you know? Like, no, bitch, he's crazy too, you know, Like why do you think just him because he has like a little bit he's tapped into the internet culture, which he is. He's good at that. He's a great marketer, right, So, like just because you think he's kind of funny and entertaining, all of a sudden, now he's not a crazy person. What about the Rock?

26:07 That could just fucking crazy person. By the way, I don't know if I brought this up either. My memory is shot. I'm diving pretty hard right now. My shit's fucked. Uh. I think the Rock, I think we switched the stone on the Rock. No pun. I think the world don't like him anymore. I think that's generally true. I love that. I love that I've been leaning the way I've been on that train for ten years. The world don't like him nowhere. They think he's corny. Finally, but I feel like, but two years ago everyone was but I'm sucking at stones. If you think about it, is his whole bit, his whole esthetic was born out of wrestling about professional wrestling. Oh yeah, he's so it's all a bit. Yeah he's never been Dwayne Johnson. Yeah he's still been the roll give Yeah. I don't know where I was heading with that either, but so Elon's good at that. They're all fucked.

26:52 The left leaning right leaning for sure, can turn into platforms, which is already happening. Um Rumble is catching some some momentum, and they're just a looser YouTube right, So some like kids are going there to put their content because they can get away with more. But also more republican or right leaning news and content creators are there versus YouTube right, which may not they each allow different shit. And then besides politics, I don't even think algorithms in the long term are healthy because it it forces the human to find an identity with like an interest. Yeah, and so like just because you have an interest doesn't mean it has to be your identity. But you start to do that either as a creator or a consumer. Oh, I'm a Max Tuning fan. I'm a Guzman fan and Guzman likes this, this and this, so I like this, this and this, and then it just separates us as humans even more. And it's natural, I think, because we're trying to find community online. But there's a fine line of that, you know, And I think it's it's already showing with how separated we are as a country and even as a world the world. Bring the world together is gonna be a tough issue, but we could definitely bring each other together as a country maybe or a state or a city or something. But we're just lacking so much community, and these people are lacking so much identity because it's so tied to one or two singular nonsense, you know, where the and then

28:27 and then it's positively reinforced by what we consume, and it's positively reinforced as a creator and a consumer, and people seek out the things that agree with them and of course try to avoid the things that don't, and if they do, the count of the things they don't agree with goes back to they tear it apart. Yeah, And I've said that's for a long time. And you know, I say I'm not political, but I am very interested at all and how people think and how the world works. But I listen to a pretty right leaning radio and podcasts, and I watch pretty left leaning YouTube and twitch Like I think that's the only way so you can actually think for yourself rather than yeah, diving into your algorithm, because as soon as you like one thing on one side, it's going to dive you in deeper.

29:11 Or even like in politics, obviously you're huge and it is so hot, but like even with fucking bodybuilding versus powerlifting or whatever it is, the algorithms are so strong. You like the wrong thing or watch them the wrong thing for three seconds, your whole feed is going to be there. And so it's like almost and I do agree with individual responsibility, but like we have to start to like wake up a little bit and start to realize what we're consuming. And everyone says that, like, I can you know, consume positive shit. I don't necessarily think you only have to watch the puppy videos, you know, we can be real, but I do think you need to watch a variety of things so you can kind of actually think for yourself for once. Thinking about the format, it's kind of seemed to me that with this thing just keeps falling down. Pardon the noises I'm gonna make right now. Um, that sort of helped Twitter. I don't think Twitter was really great for fitness influencers. I think that it's only the info influencers that that Twitter really worked for. Even that, I don't think anyone like grew grew there. I don't think so either. Um, sports news, yeah, sports news, personalities yeah, comedians, comedians, mental health more.

30:29 Yeah, but it kind of it definitely does feel sports news when I think of Yeah, yeah, me too. Um, Instagram definitely, you know, fed the influencer thing, cars, fitness, yeah, travel, yeah, right, like all the beautiful fucking landscapes you see in Hawaii or whatever the fuck. Those are kind of the three that pop up my head. For instance, watches pictures period. Yeah, not anymore, sadly, but yeah yeah, um yeah. In the beginning, it was very yeah yeah, luxury shit, cool life shit. And I mean TikTok. Everybody talks about that as being um a short firm inflammation information platform. Yeah, and for good and ill. Some people have decent additions to the world and other people don't have decent additions to world. TikTok honestly might be the most variety that had success. Maybe because there's some conspiracy shit that goes crazy, there's political shit that goes crazy. Uh, it is literal just clips of life, right, you get you get the too long, did not read version of anything in the world. Um, so that's fitness too long, did not read the political too long, did not read the fashion too long, did not read the animal stuff, Discovery channel type shit. Um, TikTok. Probably I think had And I'm this is one hundred percent just an observation, but I bet you if they broke down the numbers, it had the most like viral following, most people built a career or whatever it is

32:00 in the most variety of shit. Probably so, And like YouTube isn't one thing. Yeah, YouTube would probably number two to TikTok. Yeah, YouTube is definitely not one thing because there are plenty of people who and it's algorithm based, but it's also just interested in what people search for too. Yeah, Like you want to see this stuff that you're you're actually interested in, and the trends trends changed. They're a bunch of two. Right in the beginning, it might have been it might have been more how two's yeah, ton of how to ship ton of music. But now you're right, you can literally probably find anything from political talk shows fully produced fucking you know TV shows. Mister beasts shows are TV shows. Mister best shows are better than Survivor on YouTube or on real TV, which is crazy, you know, And he puts the money into it's you know, he has seven figure budgets on these things. Yeah. Um, we recently got caught up, not in an algorithm, but in some I don't know exactly what it was, but some episode that we did I remember which one it was, I couldn't be monetized. It was something that was uploaded for a couple of weeks before we released it, and they must have scanned the thing a bunch of times and they decided that something was offensive about it, and so it couldn't be monetized. And I never figured out what the hell it was. Yeah.

33:13 I just saw Max Tuning speak about the I was just joking about it before, but he was getting angry and bitter on Twitter at YouTube for reviewing his podcast, where I think he's like, dude, we talked about like nothing. Yeah, and yeah they ripped it down and that's another rip down. Yeah, I think because it's so you know, there's so much there's so much info on YouTube that is obviously a bot of some nature doing this. It's not individually being watched every video, right that that's again another reason why people are You can call it whatever you want, but they are calling it, you know, freedom of speech, which isn't the same thing. But that's why they're going to rumble. And I do understand, right, like, if your content is controversial, you still want to make it, you know, like is it dangerous? Maybe some but maybe not. All controversial takes are dangerous inherently, so like you should be able to put them out somewhere. And then same with um, which is the thing I do like about Twitter, Like Elaun's asking creators to put full length videos there, so he's asking mister beast and stuff, and he's trying to match the ad sense of YouTube on Twitter, which is cool at least it's a step forward.

34:21 Um. And then yeah, a bunch of like the young content creators who are just like a little crazier. They look like to drop an F bomb. You can't do that on YouTube anymore, you know, even with an adult warning and all this shit. So they're gonna go to rumble because they're at least allowed to curse or you know, for from their perspective, the be themselves. So I do understand, and it is about time we have more competitors, because a bunch came along over the years, right, like what's what's the fucking live stream telescope? Periscope? You know? Like those came and went. Couldn't hang on what was the second one? I don't even know Twitter? Twitter bought one. Yeah, and what was that one called? I don't know. Was there one with an animal animal ish name?

35:06 I don't know. I feel like there's a fish something in my brain now. I don't know why I can't God, damn it, it's it's it's just a word and it's not it's not um it's like a fake word like yahoo. No, it's a real word. What were they called? Vines? Oh? Vine? Vine? Vine was successful, it was just short lived. I don't know why it was so short lived. I don't know. I think money and stuff on the back end. I think yeah, kind of like yeah, maybe yeah. I don't know. That's why we can't have a nice thing. But that's why I went to TikTok. A lot of those guys that were successful there went to TikTok. TikTok's yeah the newest vision and TikTok, you know, it is like popped off in the last three years, but it's been around almost ten years now, you know, like it's not new new, you know, TikTok's old issues. So but um, they weren't necessarily competitors because I think Vine already died. But yeah, for YouTube to have a competitor, you know, I'm I'm all for that because then YouTube's got to step up their game and monetizing, step up the game and talking to their creators step up. Twitch is going through a huge thing for any of those who watch live stream. There's three or four platforms that are really fighting against Twitch to make a better kick Kicks the biggest one. Um Rumble does a little bit of live stuff and they're starting to push and then YouTube Live YouTube Live, at least in the gaming space. I don't think it's much in other spaces, but in the gaming spaces is making a lot of moves and trying to sign a lot of people.

36:17 So I think it's good because, like you said, social media, even if it is twenty years old, it's still new, and so it takes time, you know, like Ford was probably the only car on the road or ninety percent of them for a long time, right, so it takes time. But well there were a ton of competitors, but that was the most most successful. Yeah, I guess yeah, yeah, top top level and yeah kind of like this then, right, because then there's the periscope was there but it's not I liked periscope. Yeah, it's cool, cool, it was cool. I never really got vines some of the threads. People say are like, oh, dude, once the thread coming out with live and stuff, and I'm like, well, like why and there's no dms. We can go get Instagram and get your DM. Yeah. I think a DM would be okay because if you find someone new, but yeah, you could also just click on the little Instagram and go DM them.

37:00 Live isn't really needed, right because then we have YouTube live. Yeah. I'm my understanding is that there's a bunch of stuff coming threads. This is just like the minimum viable product version of threads. And then there's a lawsuit. I don't know how real or how fake or how legitimate that is, but I think Elon's already soon, zuck over. I think it's gonna work because none of the because Elon laid off a bunch of people. Part of their severance package was that they had a noncompete and then a number of them went to work for Meta, but supposedly none of them worked on Threads, probably because because it just Threads has been in the work since January and he just fired him a year ago or less. Last of all. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, maybe it is cool. I just like competitors.

37:45 I keep yelling at myself for not being the guy that hopped on um TikTok when it came about, and I'll take advantage of it. So yeah, I'm on Threads fucking around, and I feel like Threads might have a better at being a good place for fitness because Instagram has been. Yeah. Probably, but then that's like the joke of people being unhinged is like everyone's like all the like, all these fitness folks are nice to look out, but they ain't got shit to say. And I feel like that too. Not that I'm nice to look at, but I sometimes I just I don't always have a joke. Yeah, I made a couple of jokes, you know, but it's not like every I'm not a comedian. I'm not whipping out jokes all the day on Twitter, you know. So I don't blame these pretty fitz bos to not have an interesting thread and that it's just going to be selfies again, but it is what it is. I excuse me.

38:37 I'm kind of treating it the way that I did Twitter at the beginning, and the way that I did Facebook at the beginning. You know, it's a honestly a little bit more, a little bit more dialed down, a little bit more real, and I actually feel somewhat motivated to do it because I'm kind of demotivated from all the other platforms at this point. I do think if Instagram and threads want to be like the same thing, then they an overlaps too much. So like already in my head, stories and threads overlap too much. Like obviously stories are more video, but not always. There's a lot that you scroll through peoples stories, there's a lot of pictures, it's a lot of writing. Yeah, um, and I'm sure of a video feature will actually I think you can already post videos on threads, but I'm sure that will become more popular, right A text plus a thing, so like I don't know. And then and then if pictures and videos plus text on threads become the norm, which they will, um, then it's old Instagram correct, right, just in a scrolling form. But they're they're kind of addressing some of the things that have you know, caused Instagram to be less impactful. Yeah, because now Instagram is more TikTok.

39:43 Right, you're on a real and it's it's auto replay. So I don't think it's all bad, but yeah, to me, I'm treating threads yeah, kind of like a like a story. It's similar to my story. Right, it's fast action in the in the moment. Now not as long lived, but they but they do stick around, like like like your timeline does. Yeah and yeah yeah, and like you're real. They do stick around, and even algorithmically they catch fire a little later sometimes like like a real you can post real back in Instagram days, like the first half an hour showed if you were going to get likes or not, because then you're dead. It's gone. Where Now things can pop up a week later, a month later, a year later, more like YouTube or something. TikTok's like that. I think all the algorithms have taken that. I don't know necessarily where or how or why that is, but things can get uncovered and catch flame. Yeah, no, I agree. The other thing I wanted to talk about today this a little bit is the issue of home health tests.

40:45 And like the world you know, largely changed in the last three years about around the whole issue of home testing because of COVID, because so many people did home COVID tests and I think that they were, you know, kind of reliable in their lane, but they were not perfectly reliable. Excuse me. But now there's a whole you know, businesses built around UM and I guess it has been for a while. But home testing for testosterone stuff, you know, you know, male stuff, female stuff, STDs is the biggest one. Yeah, STDs. I feel like STDs and test are like the highest, right, Like is a quest quest, Yeah, but quest you actually have to go in. Oh, but it's like a McDonald's version. It's kind of dry. Yeah, because those have been around, I feel like, started popping up just before the pandemic, and they're kind of everywhere. They're everywhere. Now they got to be killing it. And obviously we're in the fitness space, so it's kind of hard to tell the real pulse of the culture nationally or worldwide. But yeah, like the HRT, people don't even say TRT anymore. I don't they say hrs HRT.

41:55 They're just like, I am a bit of a hater, you know, I'm one of the last living now he's on the planet. But like they're like I feel like people that take copious amounts of steroids or are so pro steroids are always finding layers to like self defend or like water down. Like no, I don't take tests. It's hormone therapy, like you know, like it's always just always trying to it could be anything. Yeah, like what the fuck, It's not all tests. And so those companies there's a hundred of them now ye that are doing home kids, home doctors, home this, home that UM and I don't know. I think some of it's trendy. Some of it's obviously like big podcasts even like Huberman and those guys are all about like hormone regulation. But like again, like is it is it just I think it's just like so lifestyle based. If you're forty years old and you've been eating McDonald's for the last twenty years, like, yeah, your shit's fucked, Like duh, you're you're fucking fat. You don't move McDonald's all day, Like, yeah, something's gonna be wrong in your body when you test it, right, Like I could do the test for free to like go run a fucking thirty feet let's see what you look like after. I could tell you your shit's fucked. And if the tests are offered by a company that also offers solutions for the test, yeah, of course, then you kind of have to feel like it's going to be a little bit on the rigged side. But people don't like see that. Or membership, they're all membership based. So you're paying like a monthly to get

43:25 access to this doctor and then you're paying for the test is free, Well that's because you're paying for four and a bucks a month, and then your drugs cost more than they would from a real doctor. Why is that or on the street right, Yeah, for sure, on the street right. So like but because you probably do feel slightly better because you're automatically going to look better, it's just a scaled up version of what we talk about with like supplements, Like every supplement is gonna have beta alanin in it and caffeine in it, because as soon as you take it, you're going to physically feel something, and so then psychologically you think it's working. And although beta allening and caffeine do work and they do have you know, positive effects and performance, but you automatically feel something. Now you're gonna be addicted to it because that that sensation makes you think that you're it's working. And so of course you take test for a month and you're a woman man in between, I don't care who you are or what your levels are, You're going to probably feel better and build more muscle, which is scientifically proven even without lifting weights, you're gonna build more muscle. So of course you're gonna be like, oh, yeah, I was so sick, and now look at me.

44:27 I got some delts, I got some traps. I just a little body fat, my hair is sticker. I like, yeah, bitch, yeah yeah, yeah, clearly, but that doesn't mean it's like, it's right, doesn't mean it's good. It doesn't mean that you probably should have taken other precautions to try to fix it first correct and because those tests are just still fucked up, and so like, I'm not a doctor, and so don't quote me, but the natural level of like test is somewhere between like three hundred and eight hundred or something, right, So a doctor will test you. Say you're even twenty six and doctor tests you and you're at three hundred. Oh man, you're on the low end of the scale. Let's boost you up closer to eight hundred. But if you've been at three hundred your entire life with no negative sides, yeah, you're in the normal range. It's called the normal range. There's probably NFL players with lower end test. Like, it's not the one determining factor. Yeah, that's what your body does with it, Yeah, because your your receptors matter. And then yeah, like if you're naturally at three hundred and you got a fucking full beard, your jacked is fuck and you feel great, Yeah, what are we doing? But they do Yeah, because again, like you said, like the same person given the test is the same person with the doctor.

45:38 That's the same person selling the ship. It was the same person selling you the subscription that's getting you locked in. Because it's something I mean, it's the best business model ever because you can't take it once and it fixes it correct. It's expensive and you need a weekly yeah, exactly. And to me, it's no different than the anti big pharma crowd. Yeah, but the anti big pharma crowd are the pro test crowd. Yeah. And and I mean this is not the discount that some people, uh, really get good benefits from working with these kinds of companies. That totally happens. But as you point out, I would say a higher percentage of those people are fixing past discretion indiscretions I guess, or fixing things that aren't there.

46:22 The other thing I've heard over the last three years, and this is one anecdotal just from reading and looking, is like the culture in fitness and not used to say like, oh, you're about forty five, Yeah, maybe take your test. Check your test TR two is pretty good. Were about forty five, Yeah, Then all of a sudden it's like, yeah, when you start to reach thirty thirty five, probably check your test. I swear to god, I've seen people say like, oh, you're in your late twenties, probably should check that test late twenty Like what are we doing? That's insanity, you know what I mean? Like again, if you're not fucking and I don't want to be like the fat shamer. But if you're not just fucking eating McDonald sitting on your fucking couch all day, your test is probably gonna be just fine. Yeah, probably forty. Yeah, I feel great, like yeah, like the breeze are you know, looking at a fucking you know, piece of fruit doesn't get me hard like when I was seventeen, but like you know what I mean, But it's good.

47:14 Which I don't want to know which fruit all of them. Really, that's the issue. Everything but a banana. Bananas didn't do it for me, but everything else really rock hard. But that's a good. That's like a natural progression to go right. Like your your brain, your two brains are connected, your cock and your brain brain when you're seventeen, that's not good. The bad things come when they're all connected like that. You know, you don't think the wrong. Yeah, you don't know which one you're thinking with. Yeah, that's the issue. And then and then you get into your twenties and now you can understand what you're thinking with. That's great. That's called maturity, that's called it's It's okay that my test went down probably a little bit since I was seventeen. That's normal. But that doesn't mean I need to go inject myself every day. It's clear head a little bit. Yeah, it's great, it's great. I think I was choking out of this conversation when the deem I was like, Oh, that's good.

47:54 You don't want the fucking yeah, you don't want to look at a cartooning get a poner like that's not normal. You know, that's seventeen year old behavior. You can't write a bus or a train yeah nothing yeah, nothing that moves or vibrate. Nothing. But I swear to God that trend has happened from yeah, forty five, you should probably get your levels tested, check it out to thirty to now. I swear they're saying, oh, twenty year, twenty seven, Yeah, maybe you want to check it out. You'll probably feel better. Yeah, I mean really, it should probably be driven by symptoms and not by by lab tests. And then the thing is that a lot of these lab tests, even the ones that are not tied to UM two companies, that solve the problem for you, they're only so only so accurate. Sure, and you can't test like horniness level.

48:42 No, yeah, there's no objective measurement. There should be a horny test. You all need it, well, I mean sort of. There is like a bony yeah yeah, penileth is legram where they put a ring around Like that documentary we saw, Yes, The Vegetarian One, Yes, where veggie burritos make you hard and I think you're dick gross. Yeah, exactly, exactly. That's crazy. The world is crazy. A documentary tried to tell the world and it got A very popular documentary said that you eat a veggie breedo versus a steak brito and your dick is hard automatically bigger. They said it was bigger. What world am I in? I don't even know. People believe it, Yeah, people do, because people want to believe that that things they would normally not have effect an effect over. Yeah, that they can. Well, and again it is the easy rot.

49:30 You know. All I gotta do is do a Fahita breedo versus a steak brito, and I'm gonna be a fucking Johnny Sins. Yeah that's a porn star. Don't act like you don't know any other fuckers. It's just so weird. The whole world I do feel like we live in. I don't know, you want to call it the matrix or idiocracy or whatever you want to call it, but I feel like I'm in it. Yeah. I recently did a home test for something and I got one result and it was directional but not totally totally accurate. And it was a it was a blood test. I had to prick my hand my fingers a bunch of times because I don't bleed very well. Yeah, you should have got our boy Jerry to do it. Oh. Yeah, he's a phlebotomist. Oh really Yeah, A little Jerry. Yeah, oh, little Jerry. Yeah, big Jerry. No, little Jerry. He's big. Jerry's kind of medium.

50:21 He's just big compared to the other Jerry. Yeah and older. Yeah, little yeah. Big Jerry's maybe twenty eight, twenty nine. Little Jerry's twenty one, stealing everyone's blood, the vampire. Big Jerry surprises me because his body weight is not reflective in his size. J olds are pretty good. I imagine he's what two hundred pounds. No, I think he's like I think he's in like the one eighties. Yeah, I mean he's not super tallly like say, he's probably six by seven anyway, very powerlifter builds in here. Yeah, for sure, the tallest dude in the gym. No though, that one dude is I don't know his name. Oh yeah, for sure, not all these brothers fucking six nine or something. He's a very big boy. Um, I didn't know he's naturally brought anyway, though, non then got the same tests. Um, I don't have them all back yet, but like the same tests done with blood and the direction is kind of similar, but it's not it's not nearly as accurate. I mean, we're just complicated fucking cars, right, So like a mechanic runs a bunch of tests and says, maybe it's this, Yeah, you know, that's all we are. Yeah, And I think that you and I were talking about this before that that home test is kind of the first cut of is there something to be concerned about or whatever if you don't have And I did this home testing because I didn't have immediate access to a doctor. I could do a whole show on how fucked up managed care is used. I used to work in the industry, and I can tell you that it's not now the way it was envisioned. Everywhere's not at all. Everywhere's fucked But

51:55 yeah, anyway, though, so there is a data base that's run by the FDA, and you can keep your comments about the FDA to yourself. Everybody, I don't know, Mike doesn't have any but about over the counter tests and which ones are actually vented and approved by the FDA. The list is short, yeah, in a lot of ways. So there's a whole lot of because and I'm split on that, right, because I could just mean that getting the certified test, because we even know it in powerlifting, right to get your logo certified somewhere, it's like so many hoops you got to jump through, rather than they could be using the same protocols and labs as these other people, so it could be legitimate, right, they just haven't paid ten thousand dollars a month to get their stamp of approval. You know. Like that's what I just hate about, talk about living in the matrix. You just can't trust a motherfucker anywhere, right because everything's like where the where the money leads, and then there's so many hoops and yeah, you know, like trying to start a business, put a sign in front of your business, you got to pay this much per square foot, Like there's always loops in our little world. Imagine something like blood. Yeah, for sure, I think that if you're if you're actually being sent to a lab to have your blood drawn, those tests are just inherently more accurate.

53:15 Ye you would hope. Um, ones you have to do yourself. Um, some of them are saliva basis, like like twenty three and me and ye and ancestry or whatever. It takes a long time to get enough spit. Yeah, Um, there are plenty of the testosterone tests and stuff. Are are our saliva tests? They yeah, and then that I just don't want to I don't like the bleed, you know. And then I also never want to do a poop one because I just can't wrap my head around how to grab that thing. Okay, well here's I can. I can give you the four one one on this. I mean, I know, I know, I just don't want to go through all that. Yeah you know, I know it's coming. Yeah you're yeah, you're still young.

53:57 Yeah you're you're younger in that respect. But no, I've had like one pooper regular um colonoscopy. Oh yeah, that doesn't bother me as much. I'm even like like a fecal deal. No, Well, stand by all right, I'm gonna get there. Yeah, colin oscopy. I'm not stoked on. But you know, well, people do it for fun, so it can't be that bad. I don't think it's the same thing. But some people shove things up there for fun. Yea, this is true. There's a whole there's a whole TikTok that that a doctor does. It's things that people stick stuck, stuck up their ass and it's all like you see um u x rays. Yeah, jackass did at Uh what's hot? It's the little cars, not a hot rod, hot wheel, yeah, hot wheel up, but up the pooper. Years ago, my my wife had a patient in the hospital who used to put the shaved heads of barbies on a string up his ass. Oh, for fun. See that's what I mean. It can't be it can't be the worst thing ever. And I know people probably bleed for fun, but that's a real small niche. There's a good amount of people that think like butt play, So keep you that bad well, and if I have a hot doctor, you're you're not awake for it, so oh then that's even better. Yeah knock me out.

55:08 Yeah that's rape. Yeah, the yeah, it could be the one. The one that I had was that had trouble knocking me out. I had a lot of trouble blocking me out. And they're like, okay, we're gonna give you some more of this is that's okay. And I was like, oh, all right fine, and they're like, okay, we're gonna get started now. So I can see the beginning of it. They like showed it to me on the thing and then and then I went down and then I was out for hours and hours and I was wiped out for days afterwards, just from the morphine or whatever it was, um benadril, ivy benadril and like valium or something. Yeah, Like I just did not have a good reaction to it, and so I was So that's why when it came around again, I was like, I want to do the other one, the Kali Guard one where you it's like a little hat thing. You just put it in the toilet and you just like sit on it. It's it hangs in the seat and you sort of drop it into there and then you just when you get as much as you're supposed to, you just pull it out and then you just pack it up and send it to them.

56:08 Interesting, but I mean it's ikey, but it's less ekey for me personally than being asleep for a week. Yeah, exactly, I lose too much time. Yeah, I mean, if you come up with a with an odd result on the Coali Guard one, you have to go and do the regular one. But I would just rather not yea, honestly say all right, So in the show notes I will add this database from the fd FDA about how to find out whether or not the tests that you're ordering from somebody or anybody or whatever is actually proved or some a legit. And just always keep in mind that if you're ordering a test from somebody, that or that also sells the solution to whatever problem you might discover, it does so Harry, Yeah, it could be you know a little bit suspect. Oh do some research, kids. Yeah, there you go, um, Ladies and gentlemen. New episodes every Wednesday Friday. Sound like where you want to find Me? Good company Discord dot Com, Join us there exclusives, early access and sneak peeks. And I'm sound like where you want to find me?

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