Whitechapel bassist Gabe Crisp

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Yeah, because I noticed there's a
huge something apartment. Last You're gonna be

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worth Bucks. We don't own the
building, show in the building. We

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tried, they didn't want to sell
it. But I mean, a downtown

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will be Kroger before long, probably
it probably it's hard to get. It's

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hard to get grocery stores done here, honestly, So Kroger. The Kroger

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is coming to Sacramento, just not
downtown. I don't know how big Kroger

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is. It's probably pretty big.
It's one of the big three. I

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think we're just talking about that in
another episode, where like we live in

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this not only the state, but
the area where all the produce and food

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is made. We got all the
cows, we got all the veggies,

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everything, and our grocery stores fucking
suck. Like HB in Texas is so

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dope compared to our stuff. So
what's the grocery store here? Um?

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Safe Way is like the big one, and then ray Leys is like our

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local one, and Rayles is okay. Um, I don't know if I've

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ever been to either one of those. And it's Saved Mart. Yeah,

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all like the little Ones was a
grocery outlet and all these little. But

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what's what's the Tennessee. There's a
a Kruger's, a big one. There's

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uh that's where I usually go.
There's food City. You got a giant

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eagle Lion or food Lion was back
in the day at a food Lion used

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to be Win Dixie. I believe
there was like a wind Dixie long time.

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That sounds very Tennessee. Sounds nice. I grabbing some beers a win

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Dixie. I haven't I have a
thought of Win Dixie in twenty years heard

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I know Ohio is a giant eagle. I don't know. Yeah, yeah,

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everything's cheaper over there too, like
Texas groceries are cheaper than here,

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which makes zero sense. I don't
know. I don't get a lot of

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paper here. Better. You know, they got bigger, bigger things.

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I feel like you miss on food
there, Like there's good food there.

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But the beauty of Sacramento is you'll
walk into anywhere and probably get a pretty

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good good food, you know,
I mean top to bottom are average is

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higher where you could walk in there
and you get a piece of shit.

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I feel like, yeah, really
yeah, Texas got spots though, but

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but they're high ends. Sure,
yeah, you you you get recommended somewhere

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barbecue, Yeah you win, you
win for sure. You can't miss there.

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You try to go get some like
Chinese food, trying to change it

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up. Yeah, you're not getting
that. Where were you, Houston?

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I wasn't in Texas really ever.
I just know, like Tea Chest,

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I know you met mister Bush surgery. Yeah, idea like Dallas Fort Worth.

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If I was ever stopping around over
there, I'm never better yet I

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didn't really like live there anything.
Yeah, they're for surgeries and shit like

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that. I love the people in
Texas, I think the most. They

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are nice, like actually the most
nice people. Walking out of the street,

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They're like, how are you doing, man, I have a good

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day like like that. I'm like, holy shit, I like that a

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lot. I feel like that's everywhere, but California said, because about Tennessee's

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like that for sure. Even Ohio
was kind of like that, even though

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everyone makes fun of Ohio like Cleveland. Yeah, they're always kind of nice.

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Even like neighbors, like when I
was living not even like with you

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down here, Like I don't know, even neighbors are weird, like girl,

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what's going on? Like like kind
of giving me like a side.

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I'm like, bro, what do
we come on now? Yeah, at

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least wave, I'll do a wave, you know, but it feels awkward

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to even wave. No, They're
like, you're from Knoxville. Yeah,

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not even Nashville. Yeah, so
you're tiny tiny. Yeah, Like one

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of the kind of reminds me like
one of the first times I've ever left

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for a good bit of time,
like with music or whatever. I come

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home. I was about an hour
and a half away from Knoxville and you

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pull in this gas station, like
you know, four or five in the

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morning, just walk in and the
woman just hey, how you doing,

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good morning, and then you just
kind of look up because you haven't heard

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anyone like greet you randomly. Yeah, because it's like one of the first

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times i'd ever left like East Tennessee. And I was like, okay,

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well then we have that at least
no one wants to talk to you at

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four am here in California. Yeah, they're scared. I'd be scared.

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You don't want to talk to people
before. I don't want to talk anybody

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at eight am. Yeah, I
don't really want to talk to anybody at

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ten am either. No, Yeah, a little coffee and relax. Let's

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get a quick intro. Gabe,
how's it going? Who are you?

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What do you do? And what
are you doing a Sacramento A play Gabe

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Crisp, it's my name. I
play bass for Whitechapel and that's what I'm

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doing in sacrament I'm want to play
a show to night. So you've been

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playing music of the rock and roll
nature. Yea heavy metal music? Do

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you never call a rock and roll
though? Huh? Yeah? Usually when

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someone like asked what I do,
it's like like that's like a metal band,

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like a heavy, heavier music.
Yeah, I try to, like

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you tell me that's what they think. Yeah, that's that's what I think.

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If you use the word metal,
it's like everybody go, oh,

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metal has a bunch of different subgenres
too, right, Yeah, what's your

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subgenre? Don't if you had to? So like we're like a like a

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death metal band or death that sounds
really nice. Death core they saw call

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it sometimes, yeah, death core. Yeah, and then what are other

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ones? There's like like stoner metal
or something. Sure, there's like thrash

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trash, uh, I mean there's
I mean, there's like grind cores.

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I mean it's grind core. That
would be just like the most extreme stuff.

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I guess hardcore almost because you guys
it's even more than that. You

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guys are pretty extreme. Yeah,
we are sometimes so like we've been doing

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it for seventeen years, so I
guess we were more extreme, but when

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we're in our younger days. But
uh yeah, now we are definitely fast

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and screaming. That's where like the
overlap is crazy. You and I met

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through fitness, but even not and
Ben, your old drummer was jacked.

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You lift weights. I don't know
how many other bands lift weights, but

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everyone on our end, on the
fitness end probably split fifty fifty, maybe

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even seventy thirty sixty seventy percent of
powerlifters and like big lifters listen to your

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style of music, Sure, yeah, you got to like these, you

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know, gyms like kind of like
you have running here, Like a lot

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of times you'll definitely hear stuff like
that where you wouldn't at Planet Fitness.

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Yeah, for sure. Not is
the opposite true? Are most people in

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groups like yours, the musicians or
singers lift weights or not? That was

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just more you and I'd say You're
probably more likely to find it in a

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metal yeah and than not so Yeah. I mean there's people out there like

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I don't know, I'm I'm getting
older now, But for me, it

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just feels good just to move before
I have to go out there and do

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that at not for sure, you
hear about that with all like the comedians

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that are coming up with the podcast
world, other musicians, other even podcasters,

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Like, Yeah, I need to
like move around, especially with you

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all schedule, like you're tour busting
or traveling, there's a lot of setting

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around if you're not, you know, dedicating time to actually get out and

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move for sure. Now you got
to get on stage or be at your

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best. Yeah, it's probably gonna
be fucked up. Yeah, and then

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and honestly, the really the only
reason why you wouldn't do it every day

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is like time you pay for a
day pass and at Uber two and from

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a place you're looking at, you
know, fifty sixty bucks to work out

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sometimes. Yeah, so especially in
different cities, you don't know where the

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hell you're going. Yeah we got
you today. Yeah I appreciate it.

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Yeah, day passed on Kyle's Kyle
Sellery. But it is cool to like

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visit gems and yeah, you know, anytime that there's like a row of

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hammer strengths, I just get a
smile on my face and run them and

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leave. You know. That's kind
of my favorite thing too, traveling and

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get so much from a gym and
get the culture. You can get coffee

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and food and you can learn a
lot about a city that way, sure,

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And those are kind of like my
three favorite things to do when I

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travel, because then you get a
sense of what's going on. And if

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you can't find a gym like this, you get a sense what's going on,

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right, Like if they only have
plan a fitness and they're like,

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all right, I understand what you
know. I'm in Manhattan. I'm in

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like a certain style of city that
only is like yeah, commercial ass shit.

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Yeah yeah. The you get really
good at using Yelp and Google reviews

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and stuff like that. Yeah yeah, I bet you can decipher that pretty

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well. How long did you get
into fitness? What got you there?

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I know you've been doing music seventeen
years or so. You guys kind of

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came up in some MySpace type era, which is crazy very much. It's

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like completely different than the TikTok thing, but it's come full circle, like

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it's kind of the same thing,
like built your career in a way.

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Yeah, we were able to like
the whole MySpace thaying like going back to

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like just like starting the band,
were able to play like outside of our

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hometown and people know the songs,
which is you know that. I don't

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know how you know before, I
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that could have ever happened before really, and I'm just thinking about it right

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now. I mean, yeah,
kind of an independent way to do it,

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promote yourself because even the other social
media's I feel like, weren't as

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big on music, like Facebook and
Instagram. Ver. Yeah, MySpace was

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very big on music. Yeah,
and TikTok too. Now like Teddy swims

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our boy, like I found him
through there when he was small, he

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did covers, did his own stuff. Now he blew up and now he's

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on tour doing crazy things because of
TikTok. But yeah, I can't think

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of anyone on Instagram or Facebook that
I ever found that way. Really.

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It was more like fitness and food
maybe comedy now on Instagram, Instagram.

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Yeah, there's a lot of coming
YouTube obviously. It's kind of been in

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between for all of them. You
could maybe find a path. Yeah.

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I always thought that that YouTube was
would be a cool, h like gateway

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for a band, you know,
like like video the like the process of

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the riding, you know, vlog
the studio stuff, and then then release

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the song. You know. I
thought that if you want to dedicate like

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you could literally there's a lot of
content to be put out for sure.

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Back in the day that yeah,
you could buy like a DVD or a

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VHS of something of that nature,
so it makes sense to throw on YouTube.

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I saw it today and I don't
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I was whipping on Spotify on our
iPad versus the phone, and it looked

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like they started to go to a
TikTok or short style. Yeah, yeah,

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there's a there's a whole video content
thing coming to Spotify. Some of

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it's already there. It was on
the iPad, so like you know,

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normally it's just squares and you'd see
like genre or album or artist. It

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was a vertical rectangle and it was
showing what looked like with a bigger artist,

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looked like a music video. But
then there's an artist I hadn't heard

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of, and it looked like they
had just kind of shot like a real

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of their band. I was like, that makes so much sense to find

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some like discoverability, because that's kind
of the issue with Spotify in my opinion.

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Even in like the hip hop world
or R and B or whatever I

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listen to, I can't find like
new artists like they used to do,

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Like Pandora used to just dump you
pretty accurate things like oh you listen to

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White Chappel, these bands sound similar. I don't know what it is,

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but I always like like the radio
function of Pandora ten times better than Spotify.

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Like usually if I want to if
I put a band in and they're

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trying to play me like a radio
station based on that band, I don't

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want to hear the seventh track off
of a band that sounds like them,

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like I want to hear hits yeah, And I feel like Spotify plays me

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song like if you're gonna play me, if I'm gonna get into a band,

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it's probably gonna be off their big
song. Yeah. Spotify, for

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some reason, I think is bad
too, and they'll play the same shit

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like you probably listen to some hip
hop or whatever, Like there's obviously different

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genres within hip hop or styles.
I guess maybe not genres, but whatever

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you click on a fucking Spotify no
matter what the CARDI B or whatever's popping

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up, it doesn't matter if I
choose eminem sure this or that CARDI B

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Is gonna pop up. Samething happens
to me with metal, like I'll look

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up like a metal band or whatever. Throw some names out, dude.

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Let's see what let's like. If
I listen to like Laurena Shore, like,

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the same thing comes up, suicide
silence comes up. Um. I

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mean, uh, I think it's
death to prevails, Slaughter to prevail.

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That's I don't know. I'm still
I'm obviously new to this I am,

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but I'm like really starting to like
it, like really start to like it.

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And what drove me in more was
just because I do like drops more.

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I like drops and that kind of
stuff. And so actually like TikTok

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got me onto it, which we're
honestly for someone like Gay would be really

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good because he's pretty like Carpenter's level, even keel kind of guy in um

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reactionaries on TikTok to drop like guys
in concerts, So slaughter to prevail like

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their famous song or whatever, devastate
or a demolisher or whatever. Yeah,

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whatever it is. They're all wearing
masks and they're German, right, They're

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all crazy and shit, it's crazy. I think. I'm not I think

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they're just from Florida. I'm not. I'm not sorry. I think he's

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a Russian. But guy's Russian,
but he might live here. Now,

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I mean he's not speaking English.
I don't think. I don't know enough

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to arts and tongues. But I
don't don't know. I don't think the

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actual band is from Okay, that
makes gonna be wrong. I have no

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idea. I see the guy.
He doesn't look okay because he's wearing like

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a shirt's like made in Russia and
he's speaking differently. No, no,

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I think yeah, like he might
be from Russians from there. I think

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that's what it is Ramstein. Are
they heavy metal? Yeah? Yeah kind

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of. I mean it's why would
you call that stuff is dark? To

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me gage? What a banger?
That song goes cool, that's what goes

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on. You put that anywhere?
It's going crazy or I'm trying to think

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of now, just like powerlifting bands, like every gym you go to.

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Obviously, Metallica ac DC Pantera,
uh, five Finger Death Puncher. Is

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are they metal? Yeah, that's
like a there would be more of a

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like a radio friendly vibe. It's
like you think what you're saying like commu

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or like yeah, yeah, maybe
more so I'll be on compared to us.

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Yeah, you guys are heavy.
Yeah, Like I gotta be careful

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and I gotta look around who's in
the gym to be even even me.

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Yeah, Like I like, like
I you know what I mean, Like

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you know, I'm like, uh, listen to music. You know,

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I'll be like before a tour,
I'll just put the CD on and and

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like listen to songs and stuff to
get him in my head. And you

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know, I don't really want to
be that guy blaring that at the red

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light, to be honest. Yeah. So even though I'm in the band,

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you know, and a gym,
no, like it really does give

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you a vibe. I like it
a lot, dude. No, if

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you're a lifting heavy, someone screaming
at you feels good. No, it

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does. Yeah, that's probably the
only time I lifted in the gypsio.

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I don't know why I've never been
in that world. What did you did

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you listen to that? When you
started, because you started when you're in

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your scene this music. So yeah, I started playing music. Well,

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I got a good I mean I
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but uh, I didn't start listening
to like heavy or music until my buddy,

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which is in the band that I'm
in now, he was in a

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band and he was like, hey, you know, come check out my

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band, you know, listen to
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of thing. And I knew he
did that, and I you know,

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he's my buddy and it's like a
local thing and I'm a young kid.

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That sounds like a good thing to
do. But let me, let's go

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listen to it. And I'm he
starts screaming, you know the bay he's

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like a band, just you know, like like I'm in now, And

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I was like, man, you
know, I didn't tell him this,

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but I was like, it would
be a lot cooler if the guy didn't

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scream, you know, because it's
like I did, I don't. I

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can't understand what he saying. It
takes you out of the song. Yeah,

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I'm like, you're like, I'm
not really why does this guy upset?

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Like, well, because you're about
my age, would you grow up

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listening to You go up listening to
Like I was like a pop punk kid,

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so like I liked and like linkin
eighty two and stuff like that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, so
that was like my kind of stuff when

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I was in high school because that's
such like a big I didn't even skateboard,

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but it's such a big skateboard error
like that was the popular everything.

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Yeah, so like Tony Hawk,
even the video game featured all that,

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such ripples in the culture of music. Yeah, I was like a big

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classic rock dude growing up to like
sixties music and stuff because your parents are

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just what I guess, yeah,
I go it was my parents. It's

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kind of crazy to say they aren't
like big music people, but yeah,

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I mean I think I got CDs
like you know, Credence, clar Revival

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CDs when I was in a good
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not, but it will still always
enter the family or something, you know,

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Like I just imagine growing up in
Knoxville. I'm slamming Leonard Skinnered everywhere

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I got. I mean, it's
where they from, Emma, I don't

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know. I don't know my history. Man. I think music is it

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not Florida them too. Oh maybe
my South. It might be You're both

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right about about Slaughtered Prevail. They're
from Russia. They're okay, they're Russian

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Death Court band, but they currently
are based in Orlando, so oh damn

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so they so they do have cred. Yeah, I just didn't think they

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were like flying over here from Russia
every time, which they're not. No,

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that'd be insane at it. But
what I was saying, like a

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good idea would be for you to
sit and you would watch the video and

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then like your TikTok or whatever,
you you sit there and watch people love.

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Honest. I would love to have
some sort of like platform where I

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just react to things people like,
so know TikTok, and then you could

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find other bass players that are going
crazy on there and react to that.

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Follow bass players on. There's a
long chick that fucking s My homie knows

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her. I know, she's like
famous famous, Yeah, she rips and

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she's playing old funk, she's playing
Stevie Wonder, but she's going gnarly on

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that thing. She's insane. I
would just have this thing where I would

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just like hate everything, and that
would be my spill no matter what it

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was. It was like the most
beautiful shit over saying doing some crazy yeah

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rated you don't say a word.
We just write the numbers though, But

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it's all right, that's what you're
into. Who like Stevie Wonder anyways?

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Um, that's that's funny. Uh. I don't know if you heard of

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Spite. They're smaller. Yeah,
we've played with them. Okay, cool,

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So my buddies the drummer, uh
Josh, he's got a long blonde

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hair, Josh Miller. Yeah,
what do they call that guy? Bro?

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He's a little while you have a
nickname, he does have a nickname.

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He's young man, he's pretty.
See. I feel bad because like

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we were just we literally your Australa. I don't want to put on spot.

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You don't know. It's fine,
like I see him every day.

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But yeah, but did you hear
like they got their stuff stolen? I

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did? That's crazy, right?
I did hear that on tour Portland.

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I think they're on this tour right
now. They are on another tour that's

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kind of playing the same I mean
areas you know within a few days of

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us kind yeah, cross pass yeah, yeah, me from Jacksonville by the

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way, you are right, But
when you think it was in Australia with

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this not too long ago, so
like, oh, were they really they've

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done stuff with them, Yeah,
I was Australia. They love death metal,

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hall, yeah, Australia school man
dude, like hardcore, medium,

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Yeah, they like nothing in between. I feel like Europe's like that too.

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When I think of like Russia and
like the Scandinavia folks, like they're

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probably those areas where where like country
music would be big here. I feel

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like, you know, like the
more metal stuff would be kind of like

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you know, maybe that kind of
that, you know, because like they're

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not listening to like Alan Jackson right
now. Yeah, they don't really have

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much of those over there, Hume. I don't know, Yeah, I

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don't know what they're all country culture
like for sure you're everywhere now though,

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but it's I don't don't. I
think that's like a newer thing. Yeah,

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obviously they have big farmland over there
and stuff like that, but like

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I feel like the culture of like
cowboy hat and yeah they sign to give

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the wranglers like that's not because and
then all that almost all music in some

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senses. And I think you've even
alluded it to you guys, like all

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genres are slightly more pop now or
even growing up for me, like hip

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hop was not pop. It was
hard to find on the radio really like

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early little Wayne stuff, like there's
maybe one radio station of that. It's

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becoming more acceptable. Yeah, and
then there's five radio stations a Green Day

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and then country there's one radio station. But now everyone's listening to Alan Jackson

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and Kane Brown and all these guys
are like mega stars or even the DM

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stuff in the early two thousands,
you can't find a station with that.

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But now like Coachella and these raves
have more visitors and tickets than anyone.

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Diplo is just as big as Michael
Jackson to something people. You know,

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Yeah, the niches aren't niches any
longer. Yeah, have you noticed that

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even with your tours, that it's
gotten bigger or different out The newest thing

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is uh like like you're so like
TikTok like bands finding or I guess kids

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like usually usually younger people finding music
on TikTok, So that even though we've

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been doing this for so long,
you know, we're not as big on

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TikTok as like the next or whatever. Is big right now. So like

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there's bands that kids are you know, into and know about, but I've

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never heard of us still because they're
not like the TikTok thing. I'm just

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like me, just like Fun't no. I would have probably found you on

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TikTok, but I would have been
like, oh, White Chop. I

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never heard it and I looked them
up, like, oh wow, they

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got some credibility. I would say, like if you were like listening to

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like the Laura Shore Radio like,
we would come on if you did.

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You did too. Yeah, it
was after like whatever they I mean,

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Laurena Shorge a little more. They
like it. I don't know how to

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explain. So like our older stuff
is, I don't know, it's it's

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the same. We could be on
the same show for sure, but it's

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different. What's the last album you
put out? Uh, it's almost two

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years now, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so

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we're Yeah. It was like he
wrote and recorded and put it out during

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like the pandemic. I think that
was the last time I spoke to you.

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How is that album different from something
you put out in twenty thirteen?

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Musically? Just well, our singer
started actually singing like that's not totally screaming

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all the time. There's songs with
with him like he's got like a really

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nice nice voice as well. Yeah, so did they usually all have nice

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voices or is there something so they
just they got that. I would imagine

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that you would start screaming because you
couldn't sing in you if you just thought

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it was cool that you would think
so, right. I know two guys

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who were in their youth in in
fronted metal bands. They were the singer

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and they both have decent voices,
Greg listening voices, Yeah, they have

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they have like legitimate You guys are
gonna absolutely hate me for not remembering this

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name. But there's a figure I
believe that was a rock and roll person

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that powerlifted. Is very vocal about
it. He's very famous, Henry Rawlins.

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Henry Rawlins. Oh okay, do
you think Henry Rawlins punk? Yeah?

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But he looked kind of like you
know in it. Yeah, well

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yeah, he just looked like hardcore
for sure. Yeah, and his lifestyle

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was kind of hardcore, because I
guess punk he was hardcore in its roots.

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He's the two hundred pounds is two
hundred pounds guy? Yeah? Is

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that play a role into all of
this coming together, like lifting and stuff,

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because yeah, I think I don't
know if he competed, but he

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was like basically a powerlifter. He
was a powerlifter for a while. Yeah,

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I don't think he ever competed,
but he was a power Yeah.

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Some other quotes crazy about music and
shit like that too. Did you know

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like that kind of stuff growing up
at all that led you down this path?

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Or no? It was like green
day. I play bass and my

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buddy screams. That's for I mean, he was a guitar player in the

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band, but that is the path, Yeah, because I played bass because

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I don't know, I just was
gravitated to it and rot placed at the

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roots time, how you I mean? But once I guess I left out

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the part that once I went to
the metal show and saw it in person.

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Uh, the energy, you know, the screaming makes sense when you

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see it when everybody's like killing each
other, you know. Oh well yeah,

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I mean one of those you've ever
throwing some elbows or not. Oh

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it was cool when you were eighteen, you know, but I feel it

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still a pussy think about it.
I'm like, that was the silliest thing

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ever but some guys are getting a
little aggresive. I feel like there's a

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level of respect than etiquette. Yeah, what are the unspoken real rules to

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mash or are there? I've seen
a chick split her head open down the

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middle. Paramedics carried around and they
kept going never stop. Am I lowed

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to write hook or is it open? I don't. I don't think I

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could start full punching. I think
legitimately, as long as you're not looking

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at someone and eyeballing them and throwing
a fist at them, anything else,

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is that's assault? Brother? Like, if you just get hit that,

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it's like I could just tornado.
And if I'm not picking you, but

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you catch this perfect acceptable, Belie, it's etiquette. Uh, Gabe,

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did you ever play sports growing up? I was a baseball player mostly,

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but wrestled in high school as well. Okay, would you did you ever

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get like because you're very like calm
individual and so, uh would you compare

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anything like getting ready like for a
sport compared to what you do now?

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Like would you say you get amped
up for to get ready? Like?

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Are you like, all right,
let's obviously you know there's not seen you

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perform like your energy is still not
crazy psyche though, but you have much

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You're obviously you're getting after it like
a good time. Yeah, you're getting

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after it. Yeah, I mean
we play for over an hour, so

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I'm not like, I mean,
you know, and I'm service dude.

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That's a good amount of time,
you know, like fingers get tired.

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Yeah, I mean there was a
time where you you, I wouldn't go

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on stage without a shot or two, just you know, and that is

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a real thing, um, But
usually it's just a good energy drink an

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hour before. I mean, it's
yeah, we're not. We're not like

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there's a good camaraderie going on.
You know. Some bands are cheering and

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smacking asses as they walk out,
but we just do the same thing every

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night, and it's it's just kind
of like a head nod and here we

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go. Yeah, a little more
routine. Is there anyone in the band

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and you can no combat this event
you don't want to hurt feelings? Is

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there anyone that's still all about it, like they're living this death core life

406
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in their heads. It's gonna break
some hearts, So I don't think so.

407
00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.480
Yeah, because you guys are just
a little bit older. Well,

408
00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:37.480
no, I mean we're all it's
it's or you guys, just that's who

409
00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:42.839
you are. I mean I think
so uh it's there's no one that's like

410
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:47.759
listening to the music that we play
all day every day. Metal in general,

411
00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:51.680
there's definitely more people that are in
metal than others, like like as

412
00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:55.480
far as like just like listening to
music, but uh yeah, I don't

413
00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:57.880
think anybody's like all day every day. And like it was like when we

414
00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:02.079
very first started, Yeah, because
you could throw yourself in the fire in

415
00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:06.000
the beginning. Sure. Yeah,
so back when you very very first started,

416
00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:08.759
sort of two questions around the round
that One of them is is where

417
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:11.240
did the name come from? Other
than Jack the Ripper. I just stayed

418
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:15.640
in White Chapel, by the way, I was just in in London,

419
00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:18.680
nice yeah uh. And then the
other Jack the Ripper is a serial killer.

420
00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:22.119
M yeah, and White Chapels where
he lived or something. It's where

421
00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:26.680
where he did his where he killed
the district. That's dark. So that's

422
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:30.599
dark. That's my mom didn't let
me listen to you guys. Yeah,

423
00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.880
that's not a little Wayne lollipop.
Yeah. Now that's like a like when

424
00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.000
we like, you know, when
Phil was like, yeah, we're going

425
00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:41.519
to call the band White Chapel.
It's where Jack Ripper killed all those girls.

426
00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.880
Oh sh, that's that's as heavy. Yeah yeah, that's not Katie

427
00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:52.000
pry too. It's almost like Death
Smash. It's like, yeah, exactly,

428
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:56.039
it's not it's Skullbuster, which I
appreciate. And then the other like

429
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:57.759
it's been a few years, but
like I put something together, like somebody

430
00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:00.680
was talking about like the name,
and I was like, well, I

431
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:04.519
mean it's not much different than Black
Sabbath. No, White Chapel. I

432
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:07.759
mean it's what's black Sabbath, you
know, black Sunday. It's probably the

433
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:14.640
Sabbath or Saturday or whatever. Yeah, color and then then a churchy religious

434
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:18.000
so it's like it's like it's black
Sabbath something is that apocalyptic or something?

435
00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:23.440
Oh you mean separately from the from
the band name, like yeah, they're

436
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.720
deriving it from. Yeah what are
they taken from? Sort of a double

437
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:27.839
worship kind of yeah, yeah,
it makes sense. Yeah, you know,

438
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:32.920
I never would to guess because it's
not White Sunday. Yeah, y's

439
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:37.079
not. It's not Holy Sunday.
Yeah, white Sabbath. But I feel

440
00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:40.640
like you could a band like it's
only Sabbath. Whoa, whoa, guys,

441
00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:42.480
Oh my god, I feel like
you could be I feel like you

442
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:47.839
could do the opposite too, Like
you could be Holy Spirit, which is

443
00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:51.079
very Catholic and lovely, and be
a deathcore manch. I've seen I think

444
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:52.079
a band that yeah, something like, yeah, it's a great name,

445
00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:56.240
Lamba God, Yeah, Lamb of
God. Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

446
00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:57.359
And they're pretty. Yeah, they're
not happy, would you say there?

447
00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:02.319
They're they're death metal, right,
They're like they sing a little bit more

448
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:07.839
though, So it's the genre thing
is just like you, you probably wouldn't

449
00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:10.880
call them death metal probably metal,
they're too pussy, but you would say

450
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:14.440
metal. Probably that's wild. I've
never heard. I think they call themselves

451
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:19.000
American metal. Okay, interesting because
because ed M style music. Oh yeah,

452
00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:23.480
you anything like that, like house
or anything like that that. I

453
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:26.880
can't do it. I can't know. I don't know why I'm in love.

454
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:29.640
He's in love with some crazy shit. But I mean I just idea

455
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:33.680
of like the heavy like you know, the drops or I'm not really into

456
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.920
those on that end of it,
Okay, I don't know. I like

457
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:41.000
drops from death metal more, dude, like iple bass and all that home.

458
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:45.119
I get the relations of folks,
but each of those genres of music

459
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:49.440
have like all these intricate ass subgenres
unlike any other music. Yeah, you

460
00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:52.880
listen to the sixties or fucking R
and B and R and B is R

461
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:55.839
and B. You're not really dividing. I mean even today hip hop.

462
00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:57.079
Yeah, you know what I mean, That's what I'm saying. Yeah,

463
00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:00.079
there's like kind of wrap and then
kind of hip hop like hip hop's kind

464
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.000
of an over though. Yeah,
it wraps, wraps almost more of like

465
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:07.359
a verb. Yeah, but yeah, metal I've never I've heard of all

466
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.240
of them. Can't distinguish what the
fuck's going on? And then he d

467
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:14.440
M. I still don't know the
difference either. I think it's just because

468
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:18.519
the people that are listening to that
kind of music almost want to separate themselves

469
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.000
in a sense. I don't know
the misfits they want to like I think

470
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:22.319
it's like, no, dude,
this is this, like this is this,

471
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.000
Like he's certain the way they're playing
the bass is this way. I

472
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:29.200
guess rap does have some people said
like conscious rap, and then they'll throw

473
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:33.319
like the Kendricks and the two Pops
in there's there's just a leitist in everything.

474
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.319
Yeah, that's and that's kind of
what it is, like if like,

475
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:40.240
how like what is cool and to
that peah, But I feel like,

476
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:41.240
yeah, when you're in it,
you don't care, Like if someone

477
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:45.880
called me a weightlifter or a bodybuilder, I'm not offended if you're actually really

478
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:47.880
truly like, I just don't care. Yeah, I just don't give it

479
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:48.920
like they just don't know that.
Yeah, so your bodybuild like oh k,

480
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:52.480
yeah kind of yeah, and leave
at that. That's all I'm afraid

481
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:53.799
to say, Like, oh,
I like like some metal and something like,

482
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:57.200
oh, who do you listen to? N I'm like, well,

483
00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:00.200
Warder Shore, Yeah, everyone knows
Waer Shore. Who else? I'm like,

484
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:02.319
okay, bro, I don't know. One of the biggest right now

485
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.599
right absolutely like for what we like. So so I'm not real sure how

486
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:10.960
that long they've been a band,
but there was you know, years ago,

487
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:12.359
like they were opening shows, Like
we've played shows with them, and

488
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.000
they were like on the like an
opening band. And they're one of the

489
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:22.200
bands that have like rode that TikTok
wave like just like yeah, there's a

490
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:26.440
lot of young guys and they're they've
gotten really big bashi heads. They that

491
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.960
that singer dude talk about the noises
I go, it makes I can't do

492
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:32.200
that though it goes a little too
far. He's like, sounds like a

493
00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:33.440
pig squealing. I'm like, okay, so I think that's what we were.

494
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.960
Just so, I was just on
a big content trip with a bunch

495
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:41.519
of boys and we're doing YouTube and
podcasts over and uh, we'll take turns

496
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.559
choosing songs or whatever. And the
driver chose when Nadim put on something like

497
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.039
that, and Justin, the kid
I told you about who was actually sick

498
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:52.200
on the drums himself. Um,
but listens to a lot of metal.

499
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.240
This guy's squealing or something. You
know. I thought there was a farmhouse

500
00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.839
going and I asked them. It's
Deliverance. It was craz tracker Deliverance.

501
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.680
And I said, Justin, is
that similar to an R and B singer

502
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.200
doing like a run to show their
range? And he's like yeah, kind

503
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.799
of like they're just showing the collection
they could do. Yeah. So but

504
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.200
it's like it's like it's kind of
it's weird because like we were, you

505
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.240
know, like our singer and stuff, like he goes out of his way

506
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:26.839
to try to enunciate, you know, like did sound crazy, but still

507
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.160
like he writes lyrics, so he's
trying to Yeah, so that obviously,

508
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:33.440
if you're making a pig squill,
it's kind of like if you could say

509
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.319
whatever you're Yeah, what are you
saying? Who knows? But like so

510
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:38.319
that's kind of like a little bit
of a difference. I'm not you.

511
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:41.640
Yeah, your singers also yeah,
into lyrics, into some kind of art

512
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:47.559
form sneaking in there. Not that
there's not art form, but yeah,

513
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:49.519
right, well there's kind of just
whatever you're trying to do, Like what

514
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.279
is what are you? What are
you? What is your goal? Yeah?

515
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.160
Where's the intend? There's some big
structural crossovers between classical music and metal,

516
00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.240
sure, Like there's a lot of
with Lorna Shores, like they like

517
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.759
have a lot of symphonic parts and
stuff like that's kind of their It kind

518
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.359
of sounds like Lord of the Rings
metal at times. Really it's like I

519
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.440
could do that. I like a
little Lord of the Ring. Oh of

520
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:12.200
course yeah it does. No,
it's it's my fourth By the way,

521
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:17.680
we've been celebrating all day. We
were hammered right now. They were drinking

522
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:19.480
what do they drinking blue milk.
Yeah, there's some nerd shit for you.

523
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:25.079
What the hell is that blue milk? It's Milk's just called blue milk.

524
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:29.279
I think they didn't. They left
it kind of quiet until what episode

525
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.240
nine or something. Then they showed
the creature it comes from, kind of

526
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:36.319
ruined it. Yeah, that sounds
it was like a weird looking thing.

527
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:40.000
Yeah, so it's teap Yeah that
was really grass I was least favorite part

528
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:41.799
of that movie. So anyway,
the second part of my question was like,

529
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.799
when did you guys know Okay,
this is gonna work, Like we're

530
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.880
gonna be able to keep doing this. Um, well, I don't.

531
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.039
I think we were like we did
it for a while until we realize,

532
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:56.599
Oh, I guess it is working
kind of thing. But the intention when

533
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.920
we started the band was not to
play shows down the street, like we

534
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:07.119
were trying to get signed, trying
to play shows, trying to make it

535
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.880
a career. So like that was
the difference between most bands in like our

536
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:14.920
town and stuff. I wonder is
that a common thing that helps people make

537
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:19.519
it? You think, because you
hear about overnight success or you hear about

538
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:23.680
like falling into success, But to
me, it's already so hard to get

539
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:25.960
to the top of anything to make
it a job, right, and you're

540
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:31.240
at the top, like sit with
powerlifting or anything. If you're like,

541
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:34.000
oh, I kind of like the
lift weights and you kind of treat it

542
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.359
that way, you're probably not gonna
be a champ, right. But if

543
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:38.400
you show up saying I want to
be the best powerlifter I can ever be,

544
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:43.160
you're more likely to turn some heads, right exactly, because there's a

545
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.599
lot of stuff you're gonna have to
give up to make it happen. Yeah,

546
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:47.359
no matter what you know, and
there's stuff out of your control,

547
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:50.920
like all of us, you know, eighteen years old, you know,

548
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:55.440
I think it's eighteen to twenty probably
everybody was when we started. And you

549
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:59.839
know, car payments rant stuff like
that. It's like, well, if

550
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:02.200
you do this and we're gone and
we're don't make money, then so everybody

551
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:06.319
sold cars, you know, everybody
who like did what they had to do,

552
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:08.680
sacrifice a little bit. Yeah,
how long? How have you made

553
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:13.319
it so long? Like it's hard
to rain like that, bro, I

554
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.160
feel like the Beatles were all dead
by the time. You guys already like

555
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:21.279
you've don't know what it's seventeen years. Yeah, that's insane, Like having

556
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.839
any career for seventeen years is insane, let alone something along even our lines

557
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:30.160
compare where it's the the splash in
the bucket man content movies. Actors don't

558
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:34.880
make it that long. Musicians definitely
don't make a seventeen year rain and still,

559
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.480
um, you know, have a
chance to, yeah, do what

560
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:39.720
you love. Tore a little bit. You said you were just in Australia,

561
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.799
Like, yeah, is was that
also part of the calculation, Like

562
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:45.079
we want to do this for a
long time. We got to get better

563
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:47.519
or we got to continue to do
what we do. Yeah, I mean

564
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:51.559
we have you know, in the
beginning, you know, we just it

565
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:52.799
was just us. You know,
now we have like you know, people

566
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:57.839
in place, you know, labels
and managers and stuff to help book engagents

567
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:00.440
and stuff. Um, but it's
basically I mean it's more or less just

568
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:04.160
yeah, like you got to be
decent at it, I'm sure, but

569
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:06.920
a lot of it is just staying
out there. Man. There would be

570
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.320
like we'd get the shows and like
trailers tires from other bands would be falling

571
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:14.000
off, and you know, just
I was like, people like how do

572
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:15.840
you make it it's like roots.
Like honestly, it's you got to have

573
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:19.639
a little bit of common sense and
you got to be friendly to each other

574
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:23.639
and and and and yeah, get
along, change the oil in your van,

575
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:27.519
you know, stuff like like the
little things that, yeah, like

576
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.079
you have to like there's a lot
more to it when when you're first starting,

577
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.519
you know, I ain't just get
on the bus. Let's go play.

578
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:36.039
Yeah, there's a long time of
a hotel staying with each other,

579
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:37.519
but I'm sure like that to sleep
in the van. We did all that

580
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:40.519
stuff, you know, we've in
the beginning, we were doing uh we

581
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:44.840
got five bucks a day, thirty
five dollars a week. Wow, it

582
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:49.239
sounds like the minor leagues. Yeah, but everything else is trying to think

583
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.239
that band. Yeah, we just
paid ourselves five dollars a day and then

584
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.239
everything else went back into it.
That's crazy. So the couple of guys

585
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:59.119
that I know that we're you know
that we're in metal bands. One of

586
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:00.920
them, I think they is kind
of gig locally, and the other one

587
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:05.960
actually toured and they made a couple
of records or whatever, and they just

588
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:09.719
kind of reached the point where it's
like we we are not making enough money

589
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:15.400
to like live, and so they
all just split up and got different careers.

590
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:19.320
But like in the last maybe six
or eight months, um, they're

591
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.480
somebody rereleased their records and they sold
out in like five minutes or something like

592
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:27.679
that. It could be. I
don't know. I mean, it's it's

593
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.400
a lot cheaper to get into the
game now because you can, right,

594
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.480
you can like record everything yourself.
And and you know it used to like

595
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.880
thirty forty years ago whatever, you
know, records casts a million dollars like

596
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:42.960
ten thousand dollars could do studio time, studio tech can do a lot nowadays,

597
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:46.039
you know, where you just do
it yourself. You could definitely,

598
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.760
Yeah, crazy dude, just ask
the internet wrote me a song that's correct,

599
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:52.960
that is crazy? What gets you
like, uh, Like I said,

600
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.639
we're gonna go back to this because
I'm kind of like you like like

601
00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:01.039
pregame style. Well, I'm super
loose and relaxing like that. What what

602
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:05.360
would uh? What's something that gets
you like actually like in your brain like

603
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:07.639
excited, not like amped up,
but just excited to do it or like

604
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:09.800
like oh man, oh I can't
wait to do this or do that.

605
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:14.679
Like outside of music, doesn't matter
like whatever, like what gets you in

606
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:16.480
your mind like damn, I can't
wait to get up and do this kind

607
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:21.639
of thing. Um well, the
first thing like when you saw with music

608
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:23.760
and stuff like you know, like
the girlfriend and stuff like I can't wait

609
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:28.360
to play a show just with her
there. That actually would be different than

610
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:32.079
everything else. As sappy as that
sounds cool, but you're getting old day

611
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:36.119
for me though, Like I'm a
I know this is this is random,

612
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:39.639
but I'm a huge disc golf guy. You've heard. I've seen it on

613
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:43.639
TikTok. A long that blows up
on TikTok. It's it's big guys are

614
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:49.800
throwing like yeah, one hundred plus
yards whatever, trying to go pro uhin

615
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.679
d I wish though, imagine you
could do it those guys. There's like

616
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:58.760
three guys making a million dollars a
year now. She's so how sad?

617
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:04.239
Is that? What? That's uh
ninety nine percent more ninety nine point nine

618
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:08.079
percent more than any powerlifter. Yeah
yeah, actually do you so when you

619
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:12.280
go on tour, do you look
for courses? So? Uh yeah,

620
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:15.480
like this this tour, there's only
been like one or two days that I

621
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:20.000
haven't found a gym or a place
to go play disc Off. And usually

622
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.519
with the disc Off thing, if
you go by yourself, you don't know

623
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.920
where you're at and you're just looking
for your disk more than you're actually playing.

624
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.800
So like, if I'll try to
have actual somebody that knows the area

625
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.440
to come pick me up, and
no one in the band place, you

626
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:35.159
haven't drugged him out. A couple
of the guys have done it a couple

627
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.559
of times, but I don't know. It's just yeah, are you watching

628
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.079
like videos on it and stuff like
that day? Okay, So that's how

629
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:42.880
I know you're in Yeah, the
new because you're like me, Like,

630
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:45.639
if I really don't care about something, if I'm like on that fence about

631
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:47.000
it, like oh whatever, I
won't watch anything on it. But if

632
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:51.079
I really into it, I'll sit
and watch videos toil like every weekend.

633
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:53.639
Uh, you know there's a pro
event, Like I have the app,

634
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:57.639
you know, the disc Off Pro
app. So like on the bus we're

635
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.159
watching disc Off Live. What's the
commentator ship? Like that? Is it

636
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:05.239
like golf? Pretty good kind of
professional? They're they're doing a lot.

637
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.119
I mean it's gotten bigger and bigger, so they're definitely uh it's gotten.

638
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.519
I mean, it's pretty cool because
when you think about it, or at

639
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:13.800
least me, because I've seen it. There's a corsebomb my mom's house.

640
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:17.719
Uh yeah, you think it like
backyard barbecue beer boys. Sure, but

641
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:22.400
if you're gonna make a million dollars, now, you got probably sponsors and

642
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:23.480
they there's lots of money, right, That's why. That's why, like

643
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:27.719
everything has to become professional because these
sponsors aren't going to pay you a million

644
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.159
if you're drunk on the third hole. It's a it's a bit. It's

645
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:36.599
like crazy like the disc or like
sneakers, so um that like the the

646
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:42.760
sell it like the what do you
call the post market o market crazy because

647
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:46.519
of a designer because how far they
fly, like the horrific of the discs,

648
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:49.960
so like like like this has a
name on it. They only made

649
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:53.239
limited runs. It's just like we
need the gate Crisp fucking driver. We

650
00:38:53.480 --> 00:39:00.239
we have we have whitechapel like disc
golf discs. That's yeah, well we

651
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:04.159
did. We did the first one
we did over the pandemic. Um we

652
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.519
made a thousand up and see what
happened and we sold out in an hour

653
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:09.320
and then we sold them for like
twenty five bucks or something. Then they

654
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:14.239
were going on eBay for three hundred
bucks. Ways a crossover there going on.

655
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:17.440
Not really that's the thing though that
I mean we watch Outful crossover like,

656
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:21.679
yeah, they listen a heavy metal
with their That's kind of the reason

657
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:22.960
why we were able to do it
because they were like, oh yeah,

658
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:24.920
you know. I mean, I'm
sure some people that like disc off.

659
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:29.440
Yeah, it's just like a random
thing. And then like uh and when

660
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:30.840
we were the first to do it, but like Slipknot did a collab disc

661
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:37.360
never heard of, Like I mean
like a little bit so like I'm trying

662
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:39.519
to think, like one of the
guys in the band plays or something.

663
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:45.000
So it was like a connection there, but crazy Yeah, I forgot to

664
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:46.400
meet like some of the pro guys
and like a couple of dudes that are

665
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:51.239
in the things through this, so
I've kind of helped all this. Yeah.

666
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:52.760
Yeah, so there's probably some kind
of crossover. That's so funny.

667
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:55.719
There's a couple of powerlifters I've seen
do it. I guess like when you're

668
00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:00.119
in a niche or you feel like
a misfit kind of in anything, then

669
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.800
you are more double down. Yeah, you're more find to find other weird

670
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:07.000
shit. It's it's pretty addicting,
like if you ever get out and do

671
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:08.679
it, because like when I started
doing it, uh, it was like

672
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:12.920
a cardio thing. I would rather
go out and chase that disc for sure

673
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.000
outside then to stand on a treadmill
for thirty minutes. So I would just

674
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:17.719
go to this course. It was
like close. Why when I would get

675
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:21.199
done working out, I would just
go over there and play. And then

676
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:22.320
you get where you're like, okay, well I kind of want to score.

677
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:24.599
I kind of want to like get
good at it, actually want to.

678
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:30.400
And then and when you do find
like the actual like groomed like high

679
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:34.320
level, not just your local park
course, it's like, oh you see

680
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.800
what it can be? Is it
similar to golf? There's like a par

681
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.639
exactly. Different discs go different distance. Yeah, oh you can't use one

682
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:46.559
just one good, but there's yeah
why once but once it lands, So

683
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.639
like I'm assuming there's placements right with
like your feet or something like that,

684
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:52.559
Like all right, if the disc
laans here and you want to swap to

685
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:54.400
a shorter range disc, you have
that a little marker just like you would

686
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:58.840
with one foot has to be on
that or something, so you have like

687
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:02.199
a it's just the size of a
sheet of notebook paper behind where you're disc

688
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:07.159
landed to your where your foot has
to be to throw it. Oh yeah,

689
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:09.400
bro, I knew it would be
really probably pretty good. Yeah,

690
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:13.000
it'd be fun. You probably slang
that thing. You would be incredible.

691
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:15.639
Dude, we'll play a beer a
hole. Let's do that if you could

692
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:17.559
get a I mean, it would
be fun for you just to get a

693
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:20.880
behind one. I'm sure you don't
want to throw. I want to throw

694
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:24.039
the fucking piss out of a javelin. I think I could launch that thing,

695
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:28.519
dude, I really do through the
moon dude. All uh, I

696
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:30.840
feel like it's all a different thing. I feel like it's different. It

697
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.440
just came to my head, man, like even like throwing a baseball,

698
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:38.000
Like yeah, it's I bet it's
more like an outfield pitch, like you're

699
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:40.800
throwing it over the mountains. Basically, I feel like your lad is like

700
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:44.599
flexed as you're you know what I
mean? Like, yeah, how much

701
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:45.840
is the same way? Yeah you're
not yet it is heavy. You're not

702
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.960
like whipping your elbow with it,
because like you are, you start out

703
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.119
like this and then it comes this
way like that. But I don't think

704
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.360
you do it with your arm like
your body. Yeah, it's a little

705
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:58.320
bit of both. Yeah, I
would say, yeah, not as much

706
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:00.239
like baseball. Baseball is like half
and half. Yeah, I would sling

707
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:04.679
my arm at a place I didn't. I'm try high school. I'll try

708
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:07.639
high school, javelin school. All
those things are cool, shop put,

709
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:09.480
discus. I was slanging discs in
high school. I was just not good,

710
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:13.440
dude. It's fun. It feels
like good warrior or shot put,

711
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:16.599
feels good just to throw something hella
heavy in a grass. There's a reason

712
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:21.239
why I was a sport. How
long ago the cavement probably you know what

713
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:24.760
I mean, Like it's hunters.
I see before you got to javelin,

714
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:28.159
when you were just talking about disc
golf and you're wanted to do that,

715
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:32.960
like you could be like our first
disc golf sponsored athlete. Though, the

716
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:37.480
way do you throw like that?
How do you? I can't figure that

717
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:43.079
one out? Like a side arm. Yeah, that was more natural for

718
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:45.760
me because of the playing baseball ground
I used to pitch like that. But

719
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.480
I just still, what do you
do? Just throw one figure in that

720
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.920
ring kind of like that right,
did you remember like this this is the

721
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:57.519
not like that. What the fuck
are you doing? I'm not a pro,

722
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:01.199
but you don't put two in the
front of the back. That's the

723
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:08.440
that's the master. So you go
you still like, don't like you're gonna

724
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:10.039
go like that way, but just
flip it over that way now, right,

725
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:12.760
like that, Well that's what I
do. I just like there's a

726
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.840
ram inside. So you just like
put your stack your fingers on the rim

727
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.159
and then on the other side you
would grip it and then I'll throw on

728
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.400
both because we for some reason,
we played a ship ton of ultimate frisbee

729
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:24.400
and pe in high school. Yeah, and so you'd be slaying both ways

730
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:28.239
because you got to get around a
defender kind of you know. Yeah.

731
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:31.079
If ultimate frisbee is fun too,
yeah, you want to get some fucking

732
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:36.159
steps. It's right on everyone.
Frisbee is really fun ring one that goes

733
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.360
really far, yeah, yeah,
or even a soft one like a new

734
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:43.199
age nerf one. You just slang
that thing like fucking cars on TikTok a

735
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:45.519
lot too. Ultimate frisbee. Oh
I bet oh, I've seen the Pros

736
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:49.320
show. I've seen the pros play
on that riving and I saw a handball

737
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:53.079
on there, TikTok pickleball's hot right
now? Really, really really really,

738
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:54.840
I think I would have fun with
it. But I would be like,

739
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:58.079
why am I not just playing tennis? But I think I would have a

740
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.880
lot of fun with it. All
these lots of stuff is like he's like,

741
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:04.519
yeah, it's like I'm not trying
to do that. Like the disc

742
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.440
off thing is you exert energy and
then yeah, and I don't want to

743
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:13.679
golf golf? What's a what's what's
an you have a golf golf? I

744
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.440
really aspire to. It's fun,
but it's hard. It's so hard you

745
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:20.920
gotta put some time in. That's
well for me, it's like the cost

746
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.000
of intrigue. That's what's gonna ask
you know, what's a what's a nice

747
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:28.400
set of discs? I mean if
you needed, if you if you did

748
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:31.519
buy like a beginner set, it
would be like thirty forty bucks. Yeah

749
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:37.400
and Ben, yeah, yeah,
we have beginner set six for that probably

750
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:42.039
No, no, you get putters
balls. Yeah. I do think the

751
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:46.000
golf once you have that stuff,
Um, it's a little bit uh misunderstood

752
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:49.480
how expensive it is because it's not
that expensive, Like if you go,

753
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.840
we play whatever courses and you're playing
a whole day for thirty bucks. If

754
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:57.639
I had like a set of clubs, if that was you know, obviously

755
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:00.599
everything was done. I had it
and it was something I could keep forever,

756
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:05.599
then yeah, I mean I don't
think paying thirty forty bucks every now

757
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:07.599
and then would be bad, but
yeah, because that's all it is.

758
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:09.800
Just like the costa entry on disc
golf is like so easy. It's that's

759
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:12.719
another reason why it's so appealing.
And a lot of them are free.

760
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.119
Right you're playing out like a public
park. You don't ever, hardly ever

761
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.079
have to pay. I mean that's
crazy. You guys sort of hear first.

762
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:20.800
White Chapel is not doing well financially. Yeah, they needed to go

763
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:25.480
buy more disc golfs on eBay for
whole five hundred dollars. That's crazy.

764
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:29.679
Does your merch fly like that too? Pretty good? I feel like we

765
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.639
did. Yeah. The style of
tease is like vintage old school shit,

766
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:36.639
and you guys have been around seventeen
years and your logos and shit are hardcore

767
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:38.079
and they look cool. Yeah,
I could feel like a really fly right

768
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:40.239
now. A lot of you know, like you were saying, like it's

769
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:44.840
just becoming more and more acceptable.
Like I don't know the younger kids are.

770
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:49.800
It's like it's porable now yeah,
right now it's killing it like that

771
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:52.960
style. Now we need to chapel
good company. It was like fil logos

772
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:58.719
that just look like metal band,
yeah logo saying yeah, yeah, one

773
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:00.880
hundred bit of rascal. I mean
it kind of did a little like the

774
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:04.519
Skulls loves Metal. Omar is one
of the ones that can name all the

775
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.719
different genres and bands and singers and
what bands they were in before. He

776
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:08.639
can do that with every genre.
He's just kind of a weird. So

777
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:15.599
the real question, right, the
reason why we're here are this is for

778
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:21.719
the moms out there right because hard
drugs, I hope the craziest people say

779
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:23.519
in the world, is it a
rock starlet? Is it? Like you

780
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:28.440
walk in there, everybody's ripping lines, doing this ship getting crazy? Obviously

781
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:30.920
it's out there. What does the
crowd do to want to punch each other?

782
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:34.039
Like you go to Bob Marley,
you're probably smoking a blunt. You

783
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.639
go to um Ludacris, maybe have
a blunt and you know, and you

784
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:39.159
have a drink. You go to
a country concert, you're drinking beer?

785
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:44.280
What what fighting in country concerts though? Yeah for sure, because everyone's drunk.

786
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:47.519
But you go to uh Coachella and
you're doing whatever those kids do molly,

787
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:52.360
Yeah, what what is the people
control? Yeah? Yeah? What

788
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:53.559
are they doing to want to punch
each other? And are they doing bath

789
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:58.280
salts? Is that the party drug? Or is it just in them to

790
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:00.400
be like oh not that they're viole, No, they're just angry. Like

791
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:05.159
it's just I mean, if you're
gonna I mean as far as like that,

792
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:08.280
we'd loicker. I mean, that's
that's the usual metal head They smoke

793
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:12.800
pot and then they just want to
punch each other. Evidently that's what's crazy.

794
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.679
They're on that energy strain. Their
hormones are going crazy, they say,

795
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:19.159
are testosterones going down? Those kids
are horned up. Yeah for sure.

796
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:22.119
I think they just want I don't
know, maybe that's just their mentality

797
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:24.639
already. Then they're like damn,
this kind of coincides with what I like

798
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:30.360
to do. Like I do understand
the like feeling free part of a mosh

799
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:32.079
pit, Like all right, this
is all consensual, we know we can

800
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:37.079
just go animalistic. Yeah, I
understand that part of my brain. But

801
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.920
I've never wanted that bad enough to
join. I don't think anyone goes in

802
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:44.280
thinking that they're gonna get hurt,
you know, just kind of raising.

803
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:46.880
Yeah, I know I'm getting hurt, but yeah, it was like it's

804
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:50.440
like, I'm just it'll be cool, it'll be fun for a little bit.

805
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:53.360
Yeah, everybody loves the purge.
I've not been that young in a

806
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:57.280
while though. Yeah. No,
I don't know. Maybe eighteen I had

807
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:00.119
some of that ordinariness and me maybe
I DIDST time I did anything like that.

808
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:05.280
I tried to stage dive at this
uh of A. It's like a

809
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.000
day off for us, but we
went and watched up like a friend's band

810
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:13.000
play and I didn't make it,
and I just, oh no, there's

811
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:15.519
like a monitor. So I'm like, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna just

812
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.400
can't just watch this guy's check it
out. I've run out and you're on

813
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.360
stage playing no no, no,
I was there watching the other band was

814
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:24.159
playing. Okay, So I just
ran across and I'm gonna get my foot

815
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:27.360
on the monitor and just jump in
the crowd as far as I can.

816
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.639
Right when I hit that, I'm
running fast, hit the monitor, my

817
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:35.559
foot just slips so there's no traction. I go head first and my chest

818
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:39.360
runs into the barricade and I'm like, oh, you know it was you

819
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:45.079
know, you don't do that again. That was the last sep I would

820
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.480
have destroyed some little girl probably,
you know what I mean, like it

821
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:51.079
it's it's karma, like I shouldn't
have done that. I didn't mention there's

822
00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:52.559
five people in the crowd, you
know, Yeah, right, no,

823
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:58.679
it was. It was it's a
private show. Yeah that's cool though.

824
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:00.400
Yeah, I mean, if there's
enough people they're catching your ass, be

825
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:06.559
fine. Yeah, but I don't
know before then, sure, don't don't

826
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:09.239
say like that. You have a
lot, probably a lot, man,

827
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:13.440
I say less than five times in
my entire lot. But you wanted to

828
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:15.519
experience If I'm you, I want
to experience it. Yeah. Well,

829
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:21.079
the stage I've is like jumping from
the stage into the crowd and hopefully getting

830
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:24.079
caught. It's pretty far, and
it wasn't that far, just a vertical

831
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:30.239
jumped a bunch of frisbee. Yeah, I hit my like this little slip.

832
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.480
There didn't get any heights, So
that sucks, dude. Yeah,

833
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:38.079
I was embarrassing, But singer every
happy who's the one that usually jumps singer?

834
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:42.840
Right? Well, no one usually
jumps in the crowd. Usually.

835
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:45.519
Can I say something that might be
mean and controversial, Let's go. Why

836
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:52.159
is every heavy metal band singer always
kind of small? M Is that true?

837
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.079
I'm trying to think of I've just
seen music person that isn't none?

838
00:49:55.719 --> 00:49:58.800
Oh yeah, that guy, right, he's a big, fun big yeah,

839
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:01.840
because I you're a thick dude.
Band was a thick dude. But

840
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:06.480
I've seen a bunch of bands and
always the singers kind of like yeah,

841
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:08.840
it's almost like a punk rock guy. Yeah, there's definitely some there's definitely

842
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.280
some big singers out there. Why
can't I think of them? Oh?

843
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.480
Fuck? This singer of Basile Dying, he's huge. He's a big.

844
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.559
Fuck. I don't know any of
these bands. He's big. I just

845
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:21.639
flex to all the metal heads because
they're all around me that I know you,

846
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:27.119
I brag about you all. This
time comes up a lot because everyone's

847
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:28.840
like, yeah, I play some
like metal. It's like, oh like

848
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:30.079
White Chapel, right though, dude, Yeah, I was like, fuck,

849
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:34.800
I gave him, I do that
all that's all. Yeah, it's

850
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:37.760
like it's niche enough that you're like, oh, this guy must know they

851
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:40.800
come in and powerlifters. No,
no, sure, And it's weird because,

852
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:44.320
like, you know, like we're
not Metallica by any means, but

853
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:46.599
yes, we've been doing it for
seventeen years, so people love you guys.

854
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:50.960
There's a chance that you've seen the
logo at least Metallica. I think

855
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:53.880
they're coming here after shock. How
do you think you guys have I mean

856
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:58.760
seventeen years. How do you think
you've avoided scandal for that long? That's

857
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:01.159
a pretty lamp. We're just Senessee
country boys. I think it's kind of

858
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:06.039
the vibe. Yeah, but power, dude, men love power. I've

859
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:09.000
seen it. Yeah. I bet
you've seen so many bands come and go,

860
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:13.360
whether it be talent, work,
ethic, scandal. Yeah. Yeah,

861
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:15.320
it's probably been ship tons of drama
around you guys for sure. Guys

862
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.599
are just pretty chill. Yeah,
no one got caught up in anything crazy.

863
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:22.320
I mean knock on wood. Yeah, it's I don't think it's gonna

864
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:25.079
happen now, but yeah, yeah, I feel like you've probably passed all

865
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:28.480
the crazy. Yeah. I mean
it's like and it's like you were saying,

866
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:30.639
like, how bad is it?
Like you know, it's like it's

867
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:35.639
not bad by any means, but
there's literally it's just like I think it's

868
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:38.039
like with anything, whatever you want
to find, it's there. It's probably

869
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:40.400
a little easier for me to get
it if I wanted to. Well,

870
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:45.039
and and like you said from day
one of even if you're seventeen and you're

871
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:47.079
a knuckle head, if you're intent
still is to make money and do good

872
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:51.400
things and like grow, it's always
going to be in back of your head

873
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:53.920
like this doesn't mix with that.
Yeah, And it's I gotta tell anybody,

874
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:57.559
it's like, yeah, like for
that, you have to put yourself

875
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.639
in the situation. Like if I
want to have a good time and do

876
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:04.639
crazy shit, I have to go
and do that. It's not like it's

877
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:07.960
forced upon me because you're leading the
show. If I want to set on

878
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:10.039
the bus and just watch disc golf, I can do that. Yeah,

879
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:15.199
that's yeah. So I mean that's
it's like, oh bad, there's girls

880
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:17.440
everywhere and stuff. It's like,
well, I mean if I wanted to

881
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:21.360
go out there and try to find
somebody, they're definitely there. Yeah,

882
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:27.079
but it's not like they're banging on
the bus like we can't go to sleep

883
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:30.519
at night, because it's definitely not
like that. Um, you're at the

884
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:34.119
end of their tour. What's next
after that? You got a little break

885
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:36.480
and you got a new tour coming
or what's what? How often do you

886
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:38.840
tour? Like, what does that
schedule in life look like? I think

887
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:43.000
it's like a probably like sixty forty. I'm home sixty percent of the time.

888
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.679
Probably, Um, we're supposed to
be I mean, well we are.

889
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:52.719
We're gonna write and hopefully record a
record, um, and then we

890
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:57.639
go back out in September. I
think people know that we're going to Europe

891
00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:00.119
in September, but well, now
you announced it. Yeah, so Europe

892
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:05.079
towards September. You just did Australia. Yeah, now you're doing a little

893
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:07.679
US. Is that kind of how
it goes? You'll jump usually yeah,

894
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:13.159
it's there's usually like a twice as
many tours in the States as we do

895
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:15.480
get out. But so if we
did two sorts in the States, we

896
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:20.480
usually do like one overseas somewhere because
UK, like we saw Australia seems to

897
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:22.519
be into it. But the UK, I feel like probably has a big

898
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:24.360
scene too, because like Punch was
huge there. Yeah, and it's just

899
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:28.440
hard to get to Australia like you. I mean, it's cost a lot

900
00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:31.199
of money to get there. So
like we've done that before. They used

901
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:35.360
to have like the big festival that
people would go play all the time,

902
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:37.400
and that's not no longer after shark
Ish type deal more or I didn't know

903
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:40.639
how big after shock was. Yeah, but yeah, we just you know,

904
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:45.000
I think we went. We've been
three or four times total to Australia,

905
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:47.920
but we hadn't been in like ten
years or something crazy. It seems

906
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:52.199
like the costs and maintenance is high. It's like double the prices of like

907
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:55.199
getting there is like doubled since the
pandemic. I want to say, yeah,

908
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:59.119
international flights can add. You've got
a couple Australians come through. Yeah

909
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:00.320
they did. They were going on
a tour. Yeah, they're on a

910
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.400
gym tour. He has a gym
and all show. Yeah. Yeah,

911
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:06.800
he just stopped buying. He went
to Barbara Gator and later on. Yeah,

912
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:08.639
I think Texas from the biggest Barbarower
gad. Is it bigger than this

913
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:12.920
place or is it about the I'd
say square Foot is similar. Um,

914
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:15.559
there's maybe a hair more usable because
their bathrooms are a bit smaller. And

915
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:20.320
then for talent videos videos is tough
because I've seen the opposite where you see

916
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:22.159
some ship that looks giant, you
show up, You're like, this is

917
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.639
adinker, Like that was the best
playing venues. There's like so many venues

918
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:28.639
that we just couldn't write to play, and then you'll get there, you're

919
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:32.400
like the Yeah, what's some of
the favorite um because you're playing like pretty

920
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:37.519
like mini iconic spots like even ASA
Spades here in sacks like the spot you

921
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:40.760
either sell O Golden One, which
is fucking you know Elton John sure,

922
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:44.880
or you're playing ASA Spades like we
have a bunch of big rappers. Roll

923
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:46.559
through there, I think too short
always Yeah, whiz Khalifa, I think's

924
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:52.239
rolled through there, James's cool spot. What's like some of the favorite ones

925
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:55.039
are there? Iconic ones you've been
to around the nation or just before?

926
00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:59.400
Oh that's it. I want I
have a dream to go to any concert

927
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:02.599
there. Yeah, it was pretty
wild. I bet crazy Colorado fucks the

928
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:09.679
Colorado Utah. Yeah outside of Denver. That looks insane. Yeah, it's

929
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:14.360
wild, it's super cool. And
we played we played there with Slayers.

930
00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:16.280
Yeah, Red rock. Yeah,
play. We played there with Slayers.

931
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:22.239
Epic. It was very epic.
What a name Slayer? They did good.

932
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:25.760
It's pretty standard job. Such a
good name. Yeah, yeah,

933
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:30.360
their T shirts and shit or fucking
yeah talking about fashionable. Yeah, those

934
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:32.840
are going for a lot of money, just like vintage looking. They've been

935
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:37.719
around forever two eh. Yeah,
they're like done. But and then Pantana

936
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:40.800
came back. I guess they're doing
stuff. We what's like, you know,

937
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.760
But uh, I don't know.
I think all those bands just well

938
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:49.840
I would imagine that Slayer will probably
play in their show before I'm dead.

939
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.360
Do you become friends with those guys
on the road? Are more just cordial

940
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.039
kind of a high five? Like
so I was like really good friends with

941
00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:59.119
like Slayer's crew, but like I
never really you know, like I'm not

942
00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:00.559
hanging out with like Layers. Yeah, they're just kind of on the bus

943
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:04.519
or doing their ship. Yeah.
I mean if you're that, I mean

944
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:08.559
you probably if you're at the venue
an hour before you play, you know,

945
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:12.760
you would put your clothes on or
off the stage and the hotel like

946
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:15.000
a car waiting for you when you
drop when you're done kind of thing.

947
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:16.760
Yeah, that's crazy. And they're
not what are they do whether they gonna

948
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:20.679
come drink beers with me or something
like maybe they like disc golf, dude,

949
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:22.400
yeah you ever know that's kind of
straight. But your feelers out there,

950
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:27.000
dude. Maybe they lift weights,
that's true. That's like the ultimate

951
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:30.360
equalizer. I feel like he just
always kind of like that's how I network,

952
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:31.000
Like, oh, you want to
grab a session. They do buy

953
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:34.159
stuff together, and you can just
tell who lifts. Yeah, yeah,

954
00:56:34.360 --> 00:56:36.719
lift it easy. Yeah. Where
do you train that, bro? Yeah?

955
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:38.280
Yeah, you want to catch a
sash? Yeah? Maybe they don't

956
00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:42.039
lift like minds. Yeah, exactly, that's what it comes down to you.

957
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:44.480
We'll just throw a little net out
there and so throwing your discalf like,

958
00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:45.519
yeah, I do that. You're
warming up in the back room.

959
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:50.159
Yeah, dude, if you're five
hundred dollars white chapel set, do you

960
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:52.880
play with your own disc golf?
I have it? Yeah yeah yeah,

961
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:57.679
it's probably customer that's fucking sick customers. They pick a bold of your hand.

962
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:00.679
Yeah right now, it's I mean
when you could buy Yeah, that's

963
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:02.280
still dope. Though, we don't
want to hold you too long. I

964
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:05.440
know you got to show to play
and you want to catch workout, that's

965
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.360
all good, but um, where
can people find you? Social media's or

966
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:13.199
maybe tour info and White I mean
Whitechapel band dot Com. You know I

967
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:16.119
do have Instagram at eats on tour. Yeah, you're doing some food stuff,

968
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:21.679
dude. That was my intention.
I wanted an Instagram that had nothing

969
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:23.760
to do with the band because I
just didn't want another social media because I

970
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:25.840
was when twit Twitter was hot and
I was like doing that. I'm like,

971
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:29.920
dude, I don't want to do
something else. But then everybody would

972
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:31.639
post pictures on Instagram, so like, I want to see the videos,

973
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:34.800
the pictures that they're posting of,
you know, the band and stuff.

974
00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:37.360
So eventually got one and I was
like, well, I'll just post food

975
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.960
that way. I don't have to
associate with the band. Dude. No.

976
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:44.639
Yeah, it's hard. It's a
lot of crap. Yeah, you're

977
00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:47.400
probably tired, you go play all
night and shit. Um, and then

978
00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:52.760
Whitechapel dot Com, Whitechapel band dot
Com, whitechapelband dot Com probably find all

979
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:54.400
tour dates, merge all the disc
that's it. So they can do it

980
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:58.039
on the resale on stock x.
Yeah, bro let us don't only drop

981
00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:00.119
new disco. Do you all take
too? Let's say I we have some

982
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:05.239
actual one. If I would have
known, Kyle's gonna go pro thro the

983
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:07.159
fuck out of that game. I
mean, give me on the freewaale far

984
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:10.760
I can throw that thing, you
know to see Ladies and Gentlemen. Brand

985
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:14.599
new episode Wednesday Friday. So Mike, we want to find me? Three

986
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:16.920
sp does co for all your clothing
needs. Check out White Chapel on Spotify.

987
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:20.039
Does that help you at all?
Or no? That sucks? Cool?

988
00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:22.719
All right? Spotify, Apple Music, Go buy some shit, Go

989
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:25.639
support artists that are doing cool shit. Um and thanks for listening. Hey,

990
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:30.920
oh yeah, where are you dude? Uh? Kyle dot Castro with

991
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:37.639
two ohs. I'm a big name
on Instagram. He followers future pro csg

992
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:43.239
player and future pro disc Golfer and
Javelin and Javelin Okay, Jim, where

993
00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:45.360
can they find you? Jim?
I am at d Jim mcdan all the

994
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:49.719
social media. This show is fifty
percent facts or percent is a word in

995
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:54.119
fifty is just numbers. Fifty percent
Facts is a Spreaker Prime podcast in association

996
00:58:54.199 --> 00:59:00.400
with iHeartMedia on the Obscure celebrity network
and I've got I have Bar, which

997
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:05.599
is Google's version of Chat GPT GPT, and so I ask it to write

998
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:07.800
a song in the style of White
Chapel. So here's your here's the first

999
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:12.480
song for your next album right here. Okay, no, it's actually insane.

1000
00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:15.519
We'll talk to you doesn't have music
too, It doesn't just like but

1001
00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:16.480
some of them