Are saunas best for recovery? | One Good Question

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Ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to
a good question our Friday episode. And

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this is more of a general topic, but we're going to get some people's

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personal tips on recovery. We got
a question from the Discord. If we

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You also get first DIBs on all
apparel drops. Someone asked about sauna

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and cold plunge being popular for recovery
and what that means, and I'll maybe

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give a baseline of answer that question. Then we'll go on to what people

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do for recovery. But the term
recovery, I feel like, comes in

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waves, like everything else in a
trend. When I first started lifting,

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no one really talked about it,
and then all of a sudden it got

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so popular and everyone's on a phone
roller for ten hours and they're slamming CBD

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like it's orange juice and going crazy, and then it kind of disappeared again.

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In my opinion, evidence caught up
and people started to realize and now

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it's yeah, and now it's back
wave. Yeah, now it's back because

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of very popular people that are probably
talking outside of their expertise and using the

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term recovery. Yes, ice baths
do help recovery, but the question is

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the bigger question is do they they
do? They do? I don't know

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how much that is behind that all
science. I can all footnote it if

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you'd like it helps recovery, But
the question is is your goal recovery or

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is your goal adaptation? And so
most people's goal is adaptation. When you

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train, you want to adapt to
the weights in the stimus you gave yourself,

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and ice baths and things of that
nature actually blunt hypertrophy, but it

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does help you recover. If you
have a race today in your in track

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and field, and you have a
race tomorrow, it's not a bad idea

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to take ice bath. If you're
training for powerlifting, meat or bodybuilding show

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or any athletics that are down the
road and you want to actually improve from

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the work you put in the gym, ice bass may blunt that. If

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it's within I think I forgot what
the study said, but I think it's

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about five hours within your training.
So you can still use an ice bath,

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you'd probably have to do it five
hours before or after. Is there

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any recovery methods that any of you
use, Like, don't like have thought

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about or have not thought about that
we dislike any of the sure the major

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Yeah, I think the major recovery
thing is sleep, rest, and I

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think that's THEO and I think two. I think two, Like, if

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people enjoy getting a fucking ice ice
bath, then more power to them.

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But I think it's the worst thing
that I would want to do in the

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world. It's not a bad thing, it's just not something I would want

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to do because I wouldn't enjoy it. The things that restore me are things

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that I enjoy, at least mildly. Yeah, that's what math like sebas

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Physiologically, there's probably not a ton
going on, but it's like my half

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an hour to disappear to Bob Marley
and I mentally relax, which always can't

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be measured the same same with like
inflammation and all these things. What recovery

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actually stands for you can't measure so
well. So does it help me recover?

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I don't know, but it's something
that feels good. When I was

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training really hard, I took an
absent salt bath every night. It was

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just part of my process to go
to bed, unwind, relacks my brain

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and sleep. But I'm not putting
that on the poundages or muscle. I

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think with the ice bath, it's
also the novelty behind it, right,

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like those people who are not probably
not getting enough sleep and like the basic

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necessities eating at five o'clock in the
morning, where when you've slept three hours

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to give me the fucking ice bath
or outcross purposes to yourself, right,

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But it's the novelty of like it's
hard to come around and not a lot

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of people do it, and it
is painful, but that's part of the

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games aspect of it. It's just
like it's a virtue signal, right,

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So like if you're actually I think, if you're actually about it and you

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understand it, like you can't use
it. And I don't know how effective

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it is for powerlifting, which is
the sport I'm most familiar with, right,

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But in terms of like like basketball
and track and stuff like running and

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all those things, it is different. So like I can see how it

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can have a just because frequency of
competitions higher. Yeah, different application though,

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right, And that's something I like. I don't think it's as applicable

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in powerlifting, yeah, yeah,
it's probably unlikely. And sauna stuff,

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you know, and and again a
lot of the experts, you know,

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we referenced it a lot. But
we had a really good episode with Eric

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Helms back in the day on like
how to spot a gimmick and like we

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had he's a genius and he had
like a great five steps to to watch

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that or to stop that. And
one of the main ones when when it

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cures too many things, And that's
what how how these experts talk about is

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baths and saunas. And I'm not
a neurologist, and they say, you

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know, dopamine release and this and
that. That's probably true. But if

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it does that, it's also not
going to build a huge bicep, huge

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deadlift and and make your cock bigger, you know, like it can't do

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all of these things. Yeah,
and and all that happens like that.

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That that's what marketing is. When
you're talking about making money, finding love,

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and looking better. Those are the
three main uh subjects that humans are

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susceptible to spend money on. It's
this fact. So when you're telling someone

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that ice bath cures everything, when
CBD oil cures everything, of course people

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are going to buy into it.
And if there's money involved, there's gonna

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be more and more people trying to
make it, and so it does you

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know, for me scream the gimmick
red light meter. But a lot of

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people just are making money off of
it, and so they're going to continue

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to push whatever I think their chances
are is that these people can definitely get

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their sleep and nutrition in check and
they will be good and consistently right like,

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not just like when you feel like
when you think about it and when

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you're close to meat, but like
throughout your training, and that's when you're

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going to reap the most like the
benefits from it. If you go to

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bed at the exact same time,
wake up at the exact same time,

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and hit your macro nutrient and calorie
intake for six months, I would argue,

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besides steroids, there's nothing on the
planet going to serve you better as

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an athlete or even as a businessman, or your mentals and all that.

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There's nothing going to beat that.
Then then those two factors. But it's

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not interesting. It doesn't sound fun. No, it doesn't grow your dick,

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It doesn't get your girlfriend. No, it doesn't do any of that.

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Yeah, it's hard, Yes,
it's a hard sell, and I

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have nothing to sell for it,
and I'm not sponsored by anything by it,

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and we don't have a marketing push
for it. But that's that's the

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honest to god truth. It's the
honest. Yeah. Truth sounds easy,

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but it's hard to do. It's
very hard. No one's doing it.

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Same gym's thing, Like they're taking
all these ice baths, but then Friday

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they're having six beers staying up till
midnight. Yeah, you know, like

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people think they're doing it, Like, Okay, I understand that, but

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I'm ready. Yeah, there's no
win there. No, you're not track

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yourself for like track yourself for a
full week or ten days and see like

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how much sleep you're actually getting and
like your actual protein and taking all these

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things depending on the category of human
we're talking shit on. If we go

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to the real ice bath folks,
they're probably not even tracking their volume in

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progress within a gym, meaning they're
not following a progressive program, so they're

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just spinning their wheels. You know. That's throwing throwing a dart blindfolded,

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like you don't even know the target
you're trying to hit because we're not controlling

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the variables we can, but you
got that ice bath in Thank God.

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Yeah, I would say that as
a general rule, the recovery methods that

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don't make money for anybody else to
probably have the greatest salients in the world.

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Yeah, big Celery and big broccoli
and big pillow is selling a ship.

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Yeah yeah, even though some of
that market's a little weird too.

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There are some weird pillows and stuff
trying to market. But yes, I

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agree, you're you're honestly better off
investing in that ship. Yeah. A

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good ass mattress, a good ac
unit to sleep in the cold. Yeah,

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a fucking blanket. My neck is
fucked. It loves matter, bro

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it loves matter. A cheap pillow. That shit will be gone in like

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two months, you know, it
all bunched up as a piece of shit.

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Yeah, get a good pillow.
Yeah, that's like, that's the

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that's Adulting's like investing in your mattress
and the Twitter mattress is a bread.

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Yeah, so's an ice bath.
No, I was just saying, I

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know, I know, but the
people will sleep on the fucking eight year

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old, twenty year old mattress and
go buy a brand new ice bath and

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it's gonna make them jacked. Yeah, that's true. It's the same as

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the supplement market, right. They're
not going to follow up a program,

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they're not going to eat their their
macronutrients, but they're buying every supplement on

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their sun to raise their test because
everyone's got low T. Yeah, this

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question I started off being about saunas
in particular. And if you want to

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roll back to when we had Andy
Galpin on the show, he did talk

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about I think we did ice hand, so we did ice and sauna,

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and like, I think that that
some of the I think that some of

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the the the research around around ice
is not held up the same way that

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the research around heat has. Yeah. I mean he would say that even

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if you don't do anything else,
like if you don't work out at all,

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if it's sitting in a sauna's good
for you. Yeah. Yeah,

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there is something about like heat activated
proteins or something proteins. Yeah, where

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that is a thing. Yeah,
I guess, but that is a like

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general health versus like optimizing an athlete
us exactly. Yeah, it's all different.

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It's all different. I could have
a hot thing my complex. Like

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red lights they have like red light
and blue light and X ray light,

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green light light stuff. People are
staring in at their pupils and getting better

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vision. And I don't know what
these are about. Over there. I

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made a joke under my breath and
I just looked at seat rest and just

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the joke. Yeah, let it
loose. What let loose? No,

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I never forgot what it was.
Now you let it out in the world,

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and it's gone. I invited that
kid, I don't know he wandered

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in here. Go to bed at
the same time, wake up at the

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same time. Stop drinking alcohol,
keep your calorie semi consistent, eat enough

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protein. You'll be jamming. My
eighty four year old mother in law the

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other day said, you know,
I stopped drinking just to see I sleep

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so much better. Yeah, for
sure, I think that that right there.

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People, I think like you need
to go to a bit higher,

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go to a bit drunk, and
it makes you sleep better. It doesn't.

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It's actually a lot worse. Well, I just knocks me up.

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I could punch you and knock you
out. It's not better, No,

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I know, Like I hate that
one to go to bed like. It's

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just not helping you out. Yeah, you fall asleep afterwards. It makes

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but you're not getting quality sleep.
Quality is not good. Yeah, it's

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just like defeats the purpose, Like, yeah, you can't. You can't

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reason with those people though. That's
everyone's trying to find the short cut for

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sure. Yeah, hard works,
hard work, no shortcut, just doing

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the boring thing. Can very consistently
take the long cut. Yeah, where

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can people find you? On Instagram? At no athletes allowed until twenty s

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I was We're going to find you, buddy, Sebastian Underscore and below on

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I G where can they find you? Underscoroking? What call dungeon Master?

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Yeah? Yeah, d m out
of himself? If we look another boy,

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I told you I went to a
NERD score. I know all the

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ship. But if you go on
Instagram and we ask people what DM means,

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what are they going to say?
Well? DM is direct message,

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but d n D is do not
disturb the dungeons and dragons to a normal

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human. All right, shout out
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that was coming already, said Underscore. O GI the Warhammer one, Ladies

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