April 7, 2023
Lift to the same standard or don’t compare your lifts? | Topic Thunder

Joe pitched this one from one of his followers: You can lift anyway you want, but you can’t compare your lifts to anyone else’s if they are not to the same standard.
Can you really compare lifts across federations or different equipment standards?...
Joe pitched this one from one of his followers: You can lift anyway you want, but you can’t compare your lifts to anyone else’s if they are not to the same standard.
Can you really compare lifts across federations or different equipment standards? Are squats with wraps comparable to squats with sleeves? Are deadlift bars and stiff bars THAT different in terms of weight lifted?
Joe Stanek (@joe_gameday) sat in as guest host on this one, along with Mike, Nico (@nicoflores83kg), and Elexa (@nanoo31).
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Can you really compare lifts across federations or different equipment standards? Are squats with wraps comparable to squats with sleeves? Are deadlift bars and stiff bars THAT different in terms of weight lifted?
Joe Stanek (@joe_gameday) sat in as guest host on this one, along with Mike, Nico (@nicoflores83kg), and Elexa (@nanoo31).
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Have a question for one of our Friday “One Good Question” episodes? Hit us up on social media and use the hashtag #onegoodquestion. Join our Discord for free at goodcompanydiscord.com!
Check out our gym (Third Street Barbell) at ThirdStreetBarbell.com https://www.thirdstreetbarbell.com/ and subscribe for updates about our apparel line at 3sb.co https://3sb.co/! Local memberships and international fresh fits!
Get early access to our NEXT DROP! Check out our podcast website: 50percentfacts.com https://www.50percentfacts.com/
50% Facts is a Spreaker Prime podcast on OCN – the Obscure Celebrity Network. ____
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Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Topics
Thunder host Solom Mike and I'm here surrounded
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by Miss Nurse Nano and the Game
Day Boys, and today Joe's got our
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question. Yeah. So over on
TikTok, one of my people ask me
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or basically have this hot take what
he said. You can lift however way
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you want, But the moment you
start comparing your strength to somebody else,
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everybody needs to add here to a
standard. I'm in, what are our
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thoughts on that? I'm so like, so like the argument you the argument
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you hear on and I see this
on TikTok all the time, is oh,
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it's my personal record, you know, it's so I can lift to
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whatever whatever standard I want. And
the counter argument is just like, okay,
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well yeah, that's that's fine.
But like, if you're gonna say
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you're as strong as me, you
you you need to be able to lift
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in the same way. I would
agree with that. I think I think
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you. I even had a like
conversation of this off air, where as
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long as you're just not comparing and
you're not claiming records and you're not claiming
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all this stuff because that is a
sport We can't just go to the park
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and I go ten for ten for
the free throw line and say I'm a
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better shooter than Ray Allen. Right, Like, that's just not cool.
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That doesn't work, Like that has
no logic and called a world record.
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Yeah yeah, right, but people
do do that. But if you want
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to smash weights, get hyped and
hit your deadlift, hitch your deadlift in
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the gym, and you're not comparing. You can compare in your own brain,
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but you're not publicly making weird statements. I don't give a fuck what
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you do. Like, have fun, enjoy that, create content. I
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also don't hate to take like lifting
for cloud like if I want to like,
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I think if you're extrinsically motivated that
way, you're not going to make
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it very far. But if you
like, we all like post because I
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want people to like watch. I
don't post for people not to watch.
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I don't put we haven't put hundreds
of thousands of dollars into our media kit
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for people not to listen. So
like, but we're intrinsically motivated because we
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want to build community. We want
to help people, right, so,
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and that's how we've done it for
ten years. I think you'll burn out
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otherwise. But yeah, it doesn't
bug me at all. I think I
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don't know, Like, yeah,
it's only ever gonna bug me when somebody
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is just like, oh, I'm
I'm stronger than you, and I see
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their their ass flying off the bench. You know, it's just like,
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oh, I bench pressed through fifteen? Do you really? Do you really
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bench press three fifteen if you're hip
thrusting it off your chest? I don't
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know what if he doesn't say I'm
stronger than you and just said, man,
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I'm still three fifteen today. Sure, yeah, and that's and that's
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cool, that's awesome. But yeah, it's the moment when people get all
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like up in arms about just like, oh, I'm so much stronger than
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you. And it's just like if
you're squatting, Like if you're half squatting
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and saying that you you, you
know, squat you know, fifty more
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pounds than me, that like that's
just not the same thing. Even being
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stronger. Yeah, there's a ton
of people. Yeah, even being stronger.
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I think it's kind of a weird
take, Like you bench press more
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than me, Nico is in the
barbe game way stronger than me. But
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I punked his ass and didn't even
blink. Yesterday when you got you in
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a headlock and you're crying, you're
you're eating your own knee, Can you
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go to the passapin? I would
like I would try to dat, you
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know, even farm like DAPT.
The moment I got to DAP moment puts
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in a freaking possum pin. I'm
like, okay, now we're just backshack.
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Ever, no, no, no, no, no no, you're
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gonna out squat me. You're gonna
out that, You're gonna fight me.
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I got real strength. I'm stronger
than him, and he's a way better
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powerlifter than me. I mean,
yeah, again that is kind of like
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you know what I mean, but
strength right, Like you're a good you're
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a better powerlifter. Yeah, yeah, it's just like I don't know,
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I don't think like I don't think
everybody has to lift to the exact same
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standard, is it? But yeah, if you're if you're gonna be that
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guy, you gotta you gotta at
least be able to like dunk your squats.
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Really that there's there's actually a good
handful of people, even people who
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don't even like lift will still be
like oh, like, I'm definitely stronger
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than this person. I'm like,
how can you compare when you don't even
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like there's a good amount of people
who do who'll be like I could do
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that, do it? Yeah,
exactly, they don't. They don't back
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it up. Why what do you
think? It's so cringe to me?
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I'm like, why why are we
comparing? Its? Just like do your
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own thing, bro, you know, like, I don't know, why
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do you care about someone who lifts
more on TikTok than you? Like,
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Oh, I don't. I'm saying
I'm not saying you're taking the opposite You're
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taking the opposite point. Like if
they do that, we still shouldn't care.
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Yeah, I just honestly, I
just think like that kind of like
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if you want that attention towards social
media, it's just like that is just
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like what are you trying to prove
a point? Like what what kind of
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audience? Like what do you want
audience to know or feel about you?
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I don't disagree with that either,
And I've always tried to take the high
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road and everything I do because obviously, like I was throwing out a big
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dead lists on the internet when a
lot of people weren't posting stuff. So
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I got that a lot, you
know, like comparison and saying they're stronger
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than me and whatever, and like
I've did it in front of officials,
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I did it on plates. I
know who I am. I know who
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I am, not um And I
would never snap back like because I just
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same idea, Like I just didn't
care, and I got I got I
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got it from lifter or lifters.
I didn't even get it from like internet
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folk, you know, I would
get it from lift or lifts and I
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was just like, well, yeah, I just don't really care. Cure.
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Yeah, I know what I'm capable
of. I don't know what I'm
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not capable of. Do you get
that you think it's worse? Here here's
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the hot take. Do you think
it's worse or better with men and women?
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I personally well in powerlifting. I
feel like men are very comparable and
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I feel like the men are obviously
more competitive because it's the gym, like
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you know, guys, testosterone,
all of those. Yeah, all the
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women like I feel like there's really
they're like so unproblematic and powerlifting the women's
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community is so much better than Yeah, I might agree, I might disagree
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where the competitiveness. I think a
lot of chicks are very competitive, but
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they look inside a lot better.
I don't think there is caddy in the
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sport. For sure, guys are
caddier in the sport, but uh,
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flame me all you want, I
do think outside out of it, chicks
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are probably caddier, a little more
competitive and weirder. I don't know,
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it's just because like there's you see
so much gama on social media between all
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the guys, Like there's always like
something new almost every single month, but
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all the top chicks are always hig
five in each other. Yeah, exactly,
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exactly due they were. They were
literally fist bumping each other. Are
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dope too, Yeah yeah, yeah, so they totally were. But I
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agree. Yeah, I don't know. I've personally never really even heard of
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like women causing problems and powerlifting.
I've probably only heard like one problem that
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was a couple of years ago when
that happened. Most are dudes. Yeah,
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the egos, the fragility, Yeah, it's definitely the egosity. Why
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is she looking at you when she
said that? I mean, like there's
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stuff that like Nico has gone into, but like it's just it's just random
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stuff like my fault. Yeah,
I mean, if you're in there,
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dude, you're I think I think
the final thing that I would say here
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is we all we all just just
lifting weights like it really, dude,
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were literally just lifting weights. Yeah, I'm close to that serious. Yeah,
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I mean I sort of agree with
the take that it's just like,
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yeah, you do need some kind
of standard of comparison, but like,
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at the same time, I don't
know, you don't need to be so
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but heard about it. It makes
more not that a context of a competition
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phrasing. All right, Nico,
where can people find you? You can
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find me on Instagram at Nico Floors
eighty three KG, and on YouTube at
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Nico Flores, What's Got Nan Nano
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I want to do the next one. Pretty good. That was pretty good.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Topics
Thunder host Solom Mike and I'm here surrounded
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by Miss Nurse Nano and the Game
Day Boys, and today Joe's got our
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question. Yeah. So over on
TikTok, one of my people ask me
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or basically have this hot take what
he said. You can lift however way
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you want, But the moment you
start comparing your strength to somebody else,
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everybody needs to add here to a
standard. I'm in, what are our
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thoughts on that? I'm so like, so like the argument you the argument
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you hear on and I see this
on TikTok all the time, is oh,
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it's my personal record, you know, it's so I can lift to
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whatever whatever standard I want. And
the counter argument is just like, okay,
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well yeah, that's that's fine.
But like, if you're gonna say
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you're as strong as me, you
you you need to be able to lift
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in the same way. I would
agree with that. I think I think
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you. I even had a like
conversation of this off air, where as
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long as you're just not comparing and
you're not claiming records and you're not claiming
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all this stuff because that is a
sport We can't just go to the park
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and I go ten for ten for
the free throw line and say I'm a
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better shooter than Ray Allen. Right, Like, that's just not cool.
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That doesn't work, Like that has
no logic and called a world record.
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Yeah yeah, right, but people
do do that. But if you want
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to smash weights, get hyped and
hit your deadlift, hitch your deadlift in
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the gym, and you're not comparing. You can compare in your own brain,
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but you're not publicly making weird statements. I don't give a fuck what
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you do. Like, have fun, enjoy that, create content. I
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also don't hate to take like lifting
for cloud like if I want to like,
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I think if you're extrinsically motivated that
way, you're not going to make
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it very far. But if you
like, we all like post because I
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want people to like watch. I
don't post for people not to watch.
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I don't put we haven't put hundreds
of thousands of dollars into our media kit
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for people not to listen. So
like, but we're intrinsically motivated because we
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want to build community. We want
to help people, right, so,
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and that's how we've done it for
ten years. I think you'll burn out
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otherwise. But yeah, it doesn't
bug me at all. I think I
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don't know, Like, yeah,
it's only ever gonna bug me when somebody
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is just like, oh, I'm
I'm stronger than you, and I see
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their their ass flying off the bench. You know, it's just like,
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oh, I bench pressed through fifteen? Do you really? Do you really
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bench press three fifteen if you're hip
thrusting it off your chest? I don't
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know what if he doesn't say I'm
stronger than you and just said, man,
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I'm still three fifteen today. Sure, yeah, and that's and that's
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cool, that's awesome. But yeah, it's the moment when people get all
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like up in arms about just like, oh, I'm so much stronger than
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you. And it's just like if
you're squatting, Like if you're half squatting
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and saying that you you, you
know, squat you know, fifty more
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pounds than me, that like that's
just not the same thing. Even being
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stronger. Yeah, there's a ton
of people. Yeah, even being stronger.
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I think it's kind of a weird
take, Like you bench press more
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than me, Nico is in the
barbe game way stronger than me. But
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I punked his ass and didn't even
blink. Yesterday when you got you in
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a headlock and you're crying, you're
you're eating your own knee, Can you
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go to the passapin? I would
like I would try to dat, you
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know, even farm like DAPT.
The moment I got to DAP moment puts
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in a freaking possum pin. I'm
like, okay, now we're just backshack.
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Ever, no, no, no, no, no no, you're
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gonna out squat me. You're gonna
out that, You're gonna fight me.
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I got real strength. I'm stronger
than him, and he's a way better
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powerlifter than me. I mean,
yeah, again that is kind of like
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you know what I mean, but
strength right, Like you're a good you're
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a better powerlifter. Yeah, yeah, it's just like I don't know,
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I don't think like I don't think
everybody has to lift to the exact same
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standard, is it? But yeah, if you're if you're gonna be that
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guy, you gotta you gotta at
least be able to like dunk your squats.
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Really that there's there's actually a good
handful of people, even people who
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don't even like lift will still be
like oh, like, I'm definitely stronger
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than this person. I'm like,
how can you compare when you don't even
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like there's a good amount of people
who do who'll be like I could do
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that, do it? Yeah,
exactly, they don't. They don't back
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it up. Why what do you
think? It's so cringe to me?
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I'm like, why why are we
comparing? Its? Just like do your
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own thing, bro, you know, like, I don't know, why
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do you care about someone who lifts
more on TikTok than you? Like,
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Oh, I don't. I'm saying
I'm not saying you're taking the opposite You're
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taking the opposite point. Like if
they do that, we still shouldn't care.
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Yeah, I just honestly, I
just think like that kind of like
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if you want that attention towards social
media, it's just like that is just
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like what are you trying to prove
a point? Like what what kind of
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audience? Like what do you want
audience to know or feel about you?
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I don't disagree with that either,
And I've always tried to take the high
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road and everything I do because obviously, like I was throwing out a big
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dead lists on the internet when a
lot of people weren't posting stuff. So
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I got that a lot, you
know, like comparison and saying they're stronger
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than me and whatever, and like
I've did it in front of officials,
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I did it on plates. I
know who I am. I know who
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I am, not um And I
would never snap back like because I just
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same idea, Like I just didn't
care, and I got I got I
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got it from lifter or lifters.
I didn't even get it from like internet
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folk, you know, I would
get it from lift or lifts and I
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was just like, well, yeah, I just don't really care. Cure.
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Yeah, I know what I'm capable
of. I don't know what I'm
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not capable of. Do you get
that you think it's worse? Here here's
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the hot take. Do you think
it's worse or better with men and women?
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I personally well in powerlifting. I
feel like men are very comparable and
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I feel like the men are obviously
more competitive because it's the gym, like
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you know, guys, testosterone,
all of those. Yeah, all the
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women like I feel like there's really
they're like so unproblematic and powerlifting the women's
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community is so much better than Yeah, I might agree, I might disagree
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where the competitiveness. I think a
lot of chicks are very competitive, but
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they look inside a lot better.
I don't think there is caddy in the
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sport. For sure, guys are
caddier in the sport, but uh,
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flame me all you want, I
do think outside out of it, chicks
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are probably caddier, a little more
competitive and weirder. I don't know,
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it's just because like there's you see
so much gama on social media between all
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the guys, Like there's always like
something new almost every single month, but
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all the top chicks are always hig
five in each other. Yeah, exactly,
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exactly due they were. They were
literally fist bumping each other. Are
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dope too, Yeah yeah, yeah, so they totally were. But I
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agree. Yeah, I don't know. I've personally never really even heard of
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like women causing problems and powerlifting.
I've probably only heard like one problem that
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was a couple of years ago when
that happened. Most are dudes. Yeah,
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the egos, the fragility, Yeah, it's definitely the egosity. Why
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is she looking at you when she
said that? I mean, like there's
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stuff that like Nico has gone into, but like it's just it's just random
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stuff like my fault. Yeah,
I mean, if you're in there,
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dude, you're I think I think
the final thing that I would say here
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is we all we all just just
lifting weights like it really, dude,
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were literally just lifting weights. Yeah, I'm close to that serious. Yeah,
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I mean I sort of agree with
the take that it's just like,
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yeah, you do need some kind
of standard of comparison, but like,
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at the same time, I don't
know, you don't need to be so
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but heard about it. It makes
more not that a context of a competition
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phrasing. All right, Nico,
where can people find you? You can
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find me on Instagram at Nico Floors
eighty three KG, and on YouTube at
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