July 5, 2023

Muscles and Mayhem – Unauthorized American Gladiators documentary series : A 50% Facts review?

Muscles and Mayhem – Unauthorized American Gladiators documentary series : A 50% Facts review?

In this episode, we review Netflix's new docu-series Muscles and Mayhem, which tells the story of the rise and fall of the iconic American Gladiators. We discuss the show's meteoric success, its behind-the-scenes drama, and its eventual downfall. ·...

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In this episode, we review Netflix's new docu-series Muscles and Mayhem, which tells the story of the rise and fall of the iconic American Gladiators. We discuss the show's meteoric success, its behind-the-scenes drama, and its eventual downfall. ·

  • What was the appeal of American Gladiators?
  • How did the show become so popular?
  • What was it like to be an American Gladiator?
  • What were some of the behind-the-scenes dramas?
  • Why did the show eventually end?
Dean Saddoris joined us for this one. You can find Dean on IG @deansaddoris.ck and at caffeineandkilos.com

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Before we get entirely started. Does
anybody have a It's it's early days and

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this week it's only Monday, but
um, any roses or thorns in your

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life this week? A man,
it's a little early, early in the

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morning and early in the week.
I would say, I just I don't

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know, I was. I'm having
a little bit of a hard time not

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eating like an asshole this uh this
past weekend. Yeah, holidaying is so

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good, and then this weekend I
kind of just like it takes one bad

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and the ordered to kind of start
fucking off. Yeah, holidays will get

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dressed. And also my patience has
been a little off. I think that's

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correlated to the bad, bad eating
habits. So I gotta turn that around.

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That's hard. Fourth amorrow, Yeah, you got little ones. It's

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I couldn't do it with little ones. I don't think. I don't know

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how I'll do that. It's tough, but you know, I'm gonna.

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Yeah, I'm going to the rodeo
tonight. Fulsome d nice. That's probably

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the last real Fourth of July I've
done, and I was probably twelve years

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ago, but the Fulsome Rodeo is
pretty sick. Yeah, I'm gonna go

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to night and then we have a
big fireworks show in my neighborhood. They

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do like a whole like highroad,
like legit one, and then the state

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Fair starts. It's summertime. When
was the last time he went to the

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State Fair? Legitimately, I would
say probably for me about the same.

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Yeah, I'll go this year for
sure. I know some of the team

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hasn't gone, so I think we're
gonna go. The grandkids were here last

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year for it, so we went. We took them. We're there for

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a couple of hours. You're done. That's all you need. It's all

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you need. I like going to
the inside exhibits now, like the art

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exhibits that they have now, and
like I'm going for the concerts. You

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see that lineup? No, who's
there? Boys to men? I think

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genuine like it's a hit or line
though for free? Damn, Well you

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gotta pay that ticket to get in. Yeah I got a free bee?

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Oh never mind, Yeah, Mom, taste oil there she does the oil

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CoA. Should we get some freebees? Not like motor oil. I didn't

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realize how, although some of it's
probably pretty close. I just watched this

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is so weird. I just watched
the worst movie ever, Monster Trucks.

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Oh, I'm not seen. It
was in the theater like three years ago.

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It's now on Netflix. Like a
cartoon. It's like half cartoon.

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This alien like drives a truck or
something, but this motherfucker lives off a

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motor oil. Okay, I don't
even heard of that. Yeah, if

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you watch it, if you saw
the poster, you did, Okay,

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because I didn't really hear about it
either. And then I remember seeing the

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poster randomly's trash movie. But yeah, olive oil. I didn't realize how

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corrupt the olive oil industry was.
It's pretty bad with all the cut market,

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with all the cutting though of the
product, like and how the mafia

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basically runs the entire olive oil maybe
even worst. Like a lot of it's

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just like ransid and bad, that's
what I'm saying. A lot of it's

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like cut garbage, Like a lot
of like the stuff you buy on the

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store garbage is like cut with other
oils and you don't even know it.

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Says olive oil because it has the
appropriate percentage to call it that, but

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it's like actually just cut up.
It's like bad cocaine. It's all cut

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up with baking soda. So olive
oil distributors are kind of like drug deal.

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Yes, it's crazy, it's cheap
and a lot fentanyl. It's like

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literally, there's a whole documentary and
I was like, it's mind blowing.

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Yeah, I gotta I don't know
where it's out. I gotta fine.

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I think it's Hulu. Yeah,
find me the documentary. Yeah, it's

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nuts. Yeah, Mom's been.
She's the one that like verifies that your

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ship's good or not. And then
she'll also do which is like her panel,

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and then on the side they'll do
like more like best beer of the

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Year type stuff, and they'll tell
you if your ship's actually taste good,

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ones just to say like is a
fucking rancid, and ones to like give

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you a real thing. But she's
been doing that like fifteen years now.

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That's awesome. She's like, what's
they call it, Sevanner? Yeah for

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yeah, for the stuff, and
it's all like the same crowd. Like

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she doesn't do it, but like
everyone she does olive oil with also does

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like wine, or they also do
like chocolate, or they also do some

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of their fancy shit. That's why
you see a lot of these like micro

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um wineries are also starting to do
olive oil now because of like what the

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main commercial product has become. People
are now going to these like micro places

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within that the birth they're getting it's
like actually olive oil. Ye, get

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some taste of it. So yeah, I'm going to a Giant's game today.

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That's kind of my my rose on
the week. Hopefully will not have

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any thorns. Yeah, and you
get the heat. Yeah, sixty five

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it's the high in San Francisco today. What a shame. Yeah, that

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crazies an hour away just over not
students, just not that much closer to

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the water. Yeah. Yeah.
But my my rosen Thorne for last week

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was I bought. I've already told
Mike the story. I bought the original

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UH stereo receiver that I bought with
my high school graduation money. I bought

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another one because it had been the
one. I had the one for years

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and years and it was and then
I stopped using it because it had a

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home theater thing. And then I
brought it in here when st was here

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and it was probably nine ten years
that it was the it was the main

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stereo. So anyway, I wanted
another one, so I bought it,

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it came in and it was broken. Oh no, so I had to

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take it into to get it fixed, And um, where do you take

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something like that? Here? Paradigm? Where's that sounds? Maybe I'm thinking

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of the driver from Callaway. They
called Paradigm Paradigm. The only way I

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know it is because like they ran
hell a radio commercial. Yeah, they

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used to it because they were the
ship for like high end audio stuff.

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And now they got the two twelves
in the back. Okay, Now they

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have a huge like service department thing
and they do a lot of like vintage

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restoration stuff. And the guy's like, yeah, the like for music.

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This is the best amplifier anybody ever
made, just in a in a in

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a consumer stereo. This is just
just is the best. But a lot

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of people are buying stuff old and
coming in to have it entirely refurbished.

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That waiting list is like four or
five months long. Wow, because there's

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only so many people are Yeah,
mine parts or the parts. You gotta

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wait weeks for the parts. Minus
was simple that hopefully that I should have

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it back in a couple of weeks. So you gotta meet up Smike.

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Nothing chilling, grinding, I try
to stay that neutral. You know,

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it's probably not good. We even
talked about it in a video, like

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it's better I think if you can
like celebrate your small winds and shit,

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I'm just so bad at it.
You gotta get better at that. Yeah,

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because part of my ship too,
is like the patience. I think

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I'm getting better at, but then
I'm just always on it, like all

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right, let's just keep moving forward, you know, the good things,

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the litteral off my back, bad
things, I think, I think in

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order for me not to get pissed
off and bad things, I also neutralizes

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my superpower to enjoy good things.
Yeah. I like sometimes getting kicked in

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the teeth with some bad decision and
business or something, because it makes me

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like fired up again. Yeah,
animates you like yeah, yeah yeah,

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And you're like all right, well
I have to keep going, like yeah,

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I have no other option. Now. We're like yeah, if you're

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so, I think I do that
now decent with the bad. But then

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I also do it with the good
and just like all right, that was

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fine, keep moving, that was
fine, Keep moving. I don't have

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any expectation that things will be good, so when they're good, I'm really

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happy. Yeah, it's one way. Yeah exactly. Uh so American Gladia,

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steroid muscles and mayhem the house.
I didn't know where. I didn't

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know where this was going to go. I don't know where it went.

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Yeah, that's fair too, Like
I don't know what the whole point of

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this was. No, well,
yeah, why did this story come up

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out of nowhere? It's anniversary or
something. Um, there is a thirty

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for thirty that we did not watch
that came out in April, okay,

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and probably they knew that was being
done, and so they're capitalizing on it

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with this that there were so many
of the original gladiators involved and the producers

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and stuff. Yeah, this one
happens having everybody, even like the guy

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that was like defending it, the
main show runner. Yeah, he was

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kind of counter contradicting what they were
saying or yeah direct no, yeah,

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whatever, he was. There's all
three, they're all there's some weirdrn weirdo

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guys. The other guy that's the
funniest characterize. That guy's crazy. He's

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wild, clearly wild. That guy's
wild. And then yeah, the other

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I guess he's the director, right, I think the director. And then

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you're talking about maybe more the producer, like the creative guy. That guy's

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kind of like stern and weird too, he's kind of a dick. And

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they would go on this tangent about
how like this like they all wanted money

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from the merchandise, and he'd be
like, there was no money from merchandise.

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We don't know what they're talking there
was, yeah, or yeah,

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is he's playing a forty year old
stick lying stick? I think he was

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just like sticking his story. Yeah, yeah, that's that's his story.

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Yeah. His story was like,
no, merchandise isn't selling that good.

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The only people buying the merchandise are
just who they're seeing in person. Like,

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there's just no way that works.
Now. I remember that game being

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popular young. I remember the commercials
and shit, yeah, yeah, that

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ship was huge. Um, I
had really not watched that many episodes of

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American Gladiators. I mean, so
I watched it, but I didn't know

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it was that because you know perspective, right, it would stopped the ninety

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six I'm fucking eight. Yeah,
it was hard to catch it. Yeah,

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and then I probably watched reruns until
like two thousand or something. Who

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knows what I watched, but yeah, I can't tell the impact it has

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on the world when you're eight,
you know, I mean, you don't

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know the cultural volume. Well obviously
I was older than that, but like,

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um, you know, my kids
were young and and Sam, you

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guys know Sam, Like we didn't
let him watch anything that looked like fighting

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on TV because it wouldn't necessarily mean
that he would smack the shit out somebody,

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although that was a thing that happened, ye, but it would affect

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his sleep so much you're riled up. Yeah, he would, like you

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know, he would act things out
in his sleep, yea. Yeah.

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If Rock catches like some UFC like
on, he'll start like punching me and

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trying to kick me and say like, okay, maybe we shouldn't turn that

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off. Yeah. Yeah, so
that way. So I hadn't really seen

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that much of it, but I
didn't realize that the cultural impact it seems

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very tied to the popularity of BWF
WWE. Yeah, and the NFL.

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It was like the Golden eraw,
the fucking hard hits in the NFL,

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and the baseball like the Juice the
Juice era, and then uh, what

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was the Nickelodeon version of this?
Do you watch that, Oh my god,

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not a legend of the Hidden Temple, No, but similar. That's

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kind of in the vein too,
right, Like at the end they run

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that obstacle course, but there's another
one. What was on with the tower

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where they had to climb up?
Yeah, that one isn't that wasn't that.

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That wasn't that. No, but
there's two notes you're talking about them.

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They had to run up that tower
and grads blowing the glowing like yeah,

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crystal, Yeah, that had to
be. That's got to be the

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kids American Glad of the Right has
it. Some of those games were dope.

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That show was awesome. They had
a basketball hoop three sixty, no

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backboard hanging in the middle. They
had a bungee cord on their back and

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they're up these stairs and you lead
it off like eight stairs with the ball

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and then made contact with whoever the
fucks around you and try to dunk this

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ball. Guts, gut, guts
is good, dude. I got a

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YouTube, guts because I have YouTube
Legends of the Hidden Temple. Temple's get

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some of those questions they were asking
those kids were because it was like a

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you had to answer questions those questions
are fucking hard. I'm like, I

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don't know what any of these answers. Yeah. I saw a clip from

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Speaking of This Era. Uh,
we're in the world as Carmen san Diego

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with the group that sang the Acabella
group that sang Rockabella, that's on the

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nose. Probably like nightmares about Carmen
San Diego when I was a kid,

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I'd have like reoccurring dreams of like
her. Yeah, weird. Where did

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that start? A video game?
Right? Yeah, it was a PC

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PC game that's crazy, and then
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good. I wish my parents would
have had me try out for that.

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What a ship on the now?
Was everybody every kid's dreams wanting to be

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on Guts or fucking uh? What
was the other one with the slime?

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so yeah, I think it was
Double Thing. So I think it was

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double And there was a one game
where the kids were like inventors and they'd

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have like a child inventor come on
and they had to guess what the kids

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invention was. Yeah that might be
yeah, yeah, that's the same show

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too. It might have been a
segment of the same show, but I

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do remember that and all the panel
the players were all like Disney stars or

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Nickelodeon stars. Ye show. It
was like their version of Family Feud kinda

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yeah, and they had to remember
what was kind of the era game show.

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they're all like good, good good. And then I remember talking about cultural

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impact. I remember Who Wants to
Be a Millionaire came out and that ship

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was everywhere, like McDonald's is doing
promos for it like that, talk about

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cultural impact. It was what's his
name? Fucking regious filming like that.

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I remember being like a million dollars
holy fuck. Yeah, and the questions

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were hard. They had video games
for it. Everybody tuned in trying to

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see if they how far they would
go. Yeah. I remember their family

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crazy. Yeah, you know what
it fucked up? Game show would have

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been Family Freud. Yeah, let's
get to your deep seated anxieties. God's

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by your mother, who was right
here, standing right here, ran by

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doctor. Yeah, the fake fake
doctor, foot doctor whatever fuck is fake

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a doctor of any kind? I
thought he's like a foot doctor name every

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other carnivore on the planet. Yeah, his first name was doctor. His

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given name is done. Yeah,
the whole thing should do. That changed

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my government name to doc. For
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That was his nickname, Grandpa Doc. Interesting new as a truck driver.

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Well then you got like you got
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Right, he wasn't a doctor.
He's a scientist, but he could

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have had a PhD. Right maybe
maybe I think they's called him Doc.

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have like if I think about,
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child, was the the tennis ball
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ball. I remember, like when
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like that is American Gladiator. There's is

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the tennis ball one. There's a
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they talk about that in the first
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least to me, where like the
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not four or five. Most dude, out of the five was a grind,

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but like three got good. I
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steroids. Yeah, and but then
like the rest of it's whatever. Like

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the first one's really good because you're
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circus. And then the second when
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to see this downfall of steroids,
and then yeah, it just kind of

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goes off. The fourth and fifth
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like, yeah, I didn't go
to that. Yeah, I didn't want

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to be a part of that.
Like they're just mentioning projects that they didn't

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want to be a part of anymore. Yeah. The whole they spent like

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forty five minutes on just talking about
them, like coming back and like doing

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other things, like we don't care
what they were doing outside. I don't

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care if you're doing. Yeah,
do you ever rub elbows with any of

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those guys, Because I know Nitro
was big in the CrossFit games, not

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the games themselves, but he was
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so, And if I did,
I didn't know who he was at the

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time. Yeah, but there's a
chance because I happened many times. We're

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like going back to like somebody I
met at like the Games and I was

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like, oh shit, that was
I don't know if it was someone else

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introduced me to them, and I'm
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I know his buddies with Jen,
who's obviously American Gladiator shout out the

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Phoenix Gladiator and they worked out together
at a CrossFit gym and wherever studio city

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that I've been to, um and
I just know, yeah, he was

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dabbling pretty hard in the CrossFit space. Our connection to the most recent the

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reboot from two thousand and eight is
that we've all met Michael Hern yeah two

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eight, and we all know Jenn
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I met that from something I watched
my entire life growing up through CrossFit was

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which is similar to the America Gladiator
is the challenge like people. Yeah yeah,

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Kenny Bananas, Kenny and all those
other DRAMs. Yeah yeah, those

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are all the homies. I met
all of them in the person that was

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for me was like, oh shit, like I watched you growing up,

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Like how weird is that? How
much like reality TV swooped into our world?

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Yeah? Yeah, Kenny, Kenny, Kenny, He's a buddy of

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I'm like, yeah, first time
I met Kenny too, I'm like,

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what is this motherfucker doing over here? Yeah? Where I was at like

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a fit the fit ad parties where
iould mostly met all these because they're all

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because Kenny was really involved with fit
A and still is. But he would

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bring all his challenge, the challenge
by this to these big, huge Fit

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A part because they were in LA. Yeah, so it was like literally

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in LA Reality TV Star Reunion reunion
at all these fit ad parties, at

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these like awesome event It was fine. It was good times. Yeah,

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yeah, yea, yeah, I
mean that era of CrossFit. Obviously CrossFit's

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still doing fine and they'll probably sell
out their bullshit, but like that era

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was kind of the middle ground of
like underground CrossFit and now Rebuk's name on

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it and Rebuck was doing well,
so it did have some like celebrity It's

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never been the same. Yeah,
it had like celebrity power behind it in

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a sense. It was sick sixteen
years yeah, yep. Yeah, at

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least two thousand and seven was the
first games. Yeah, but it had

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been going on I think since two
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even two thousand and seven will make
it. Yeah a long time. Yeah,

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that's sixteen. That's when I graduate
high school. Yeah, a long

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time, Kenny sand Tug. The
challenge had to be I mean they named

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a couple of shows, but so
many shows had to be mimicked after this

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because they were doing like balls in. They call it on the Challenge,

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the balls in where they have to
take that ball and put it into that

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like someone's like blocking. It's the
exact same game. In my high school,

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we had a we called it like
a pe room. It was just

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like a It was kind of like
a physical education room where the ground was

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all lightly padded like gymnastics. It
was more of a gymnastics room. We

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had a rock climbing wall, and
then we had these um foam barrels that

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you would imagine kind of like a
rodeo type thing. And so they're all

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colored red, white, green,
whatever, and it's a foam, but

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it's pretty thick and it's pretty big, the size of like a large trash

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can. And o. My mentor
was my basketball coach and my pe teacher,

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and he would have us play that
sometimes. So we had these like

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dodgeballs and he set it on the
either side of the room and just no

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rules, Just put that ball in
that fucking cup over there. That was

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like when I was younger, we
had like a church group. Yeah when

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I when I was going, like
my mom was really into church and U

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israelly into church still and stuff.
But I would go to like the youth

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groups on like Friday or whatever,
and like they would have like just it

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was. It was awesome because it
was like literally it was inside basketball,

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right, that's when you don't really
have access to like the Jim style basketball.

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It comes off the ceiling. Dodgeball. It was like it was a

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good it was a great time.
Yeah, right, really good way to

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get kids into it, you know
whatever. Yeah, yeah, I don't

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know. I remember the dodgeball.
It was a kind of gladiator esque,

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you know, like they had like
the jousting, like the big paths.

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I feel like I feel like you
could make you know how those trampoline places

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went crazy, Like, I feel
like you could make a place that's American

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Gladiator. I'm probably good figure started. Yeah, you figure or at any

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point along the way, you just
still don't have it on dirt. But

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a lot of the safety comes with
having one hundred and sixty pound man running

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out a two hundred and fifty pound
man. Yeah, you know what I

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mean. If they're a bunch of
eight year olds, Yeah, you're gonna

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twist an ankle, but no one's
gonna die. Yeah, you know,

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they they they built a recipe for
disaster when you have a dude who played

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in the NFL going against a thirty
year old fucking truck driver, Like,

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that guy's gonna get fucking murdered.
Of course, that's like a duh.

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I'm shocked they put Malibu on the
cover because he was such a pussy.

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Uh. Is that the guy that
got ye kind of early? Yeah?

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Yeah, yeah, he's on the
cover of the whole show. He is

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really jacked though he looks cool,
but he was like barely on. Yeah.

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It is funny how they like talk
about him too, like he was

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kind of the one that didn't fit
in, Like, yeah, I saw

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his eyes shuddering. I knew that
fool couldn't take a hit. Yeah.

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He was there for half the first
season, the seven seasons. Good at

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racketball or something. Yeah, he's
a racketball player. Yeah. I guess

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you just took him because he looked
pretty and he had all that hair,

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Like I said, like fair a
faucet here, but like here was twenty

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years old at that point, right
or ten years old years old. There's

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probably people in the second Gladiator that
we know too, I bet maybe so

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I didn't recognize any when I when
I scrolled through it, but that's crazy.

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Yeah. Yeah, And they briefly
breezed over the fact that the Gladiator,

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like UK version was like massive success, way bigger than the US.

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Where's the documentary on that? That
an episode on that instead of all the

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other stuff that they spent an episode
time on. Gina Corno. Gina Corno,

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Yeah, that's that's the one.
Yeah, I didn't know. I

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wonder if you got her start there. Jamie Reid, I don't know if

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I know who that is, probably
Jamie Reid Kovac as American actress. But

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what do we think the point of
this documentary was? Is it like a

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steroid awareness as a business? I
mean, I think number one. I

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think it's an nostalgia trip. Yeah. And the same way you know that

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I rebought the stereo, I mean
in an Installgia point in my life friends,

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this moment um. Yeah, I
wish I bought that in the nineties

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now anyway, the nineties what's nineties
now is probably yeah, exactly. Um,

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And I think the second part of
it really was the steroid thing.

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I mean part of it. There
are some scenes in this that are the

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same footage that's in Bigger, Stronger, Faster, and so it's in a

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way it kind of plays as an
indictment on that that view of of steroids,

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because Bigger, Stronger, Faster was
made to um uh really normalized steroid

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use. I I mean, having
been there and seen it going on,

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that's what I believe the agenda was, even though you know, Chris was

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like, oh, I have moral
objections. It's like, no, you

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don't. I mean, I know
he didn't, but he said it in

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the film, because you know,
two more two more famous ones. I

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don't. I don't know if I
think I met this dude he's in the

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reboot. Oh yeah, it's like
around Wolf, I think. But then

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the other one is Tonaway Reid,
who is uh Dwayne Johnson's cousin. Yeah,

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and it's stunt double and so I
think Tonaway got to start there too.

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Interesting. Yeah, and then that
whole probably sparked the whole Titans thing

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for sure, yeah, for sure. Did you find it interesting that,

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you know, uh, Michael Hearne, who is you know, vigorously defending

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his natty's status for as long as
I've known about that. He's friends with

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the producer. That's why is that
what? I don't know that producer is

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so adamant. But the whole story
is they didn't release the test. They

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take a test and then just tell
the world they gave him a six week

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notice. Yeah, didn't release the
test results, and yeah, I mean

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that, Yeah, that's a test
for steroids with every funny or let's just

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getting canceled right now. I mean
that's where CrossFit up there, testing from

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well, the everybody else talking about
how, yeah we maybe not have been

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taking tests we were taking like growth
and h yeah. The ladies, Yeah,

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it's funny how the like not to
be mean to anyone on that show.

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They got interviewed, but like they
have no clue what they're talking about.

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No, you know, they're like, yeah, well that's a synthetic

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hormone, So that's kind of a
steroid said, you know, like steroid

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by definition is a synthetical hormone.
She's like one of the girls like,

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well, I don't take testosterone,
but I take HGH, which isn't and

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I'm like, yeah, that's all
synthetic hormone is steroid. But you do

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have to test specifically for those things
to to test, like right, like

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what were they actually only testing?
Yeah, I think those tests HGH,

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because it's so variable in your own
body, in your own day, is

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nearly impossible. Tests, super hard
to test for. I think they've got

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more follicle maybe more stuff now than
they did back then. For sure,

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it's just because they also didn't care. Yeah, no, they were trying

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to get the advertisers off their back. Yeah, for sure. They just

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need to make money. And seven
eleven jumped in shout out to seven to

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eleven for promoting muscle growth. They
seven eleven's always been in the culture,

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though somehow out for take care.
They've always been in the culture. They

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just did a rebrand right now.
Actually, I didn't like they're doing Nike

389
00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:14.039
s B collapse, you know,
it's like, maybe, yeah, that's

390
00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:15.359
crazy. I had no idea they
were doing that. Yeah. No,

391
00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:18.039
they are kind of tapped in for
some reason. It's a slurpy era.

392
00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:21.880
Dude, it's that snaledger, right, you fucking seven eleven. It's like

393
00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:25.279
a free slurpy day, right,
Like it's the only thing that pisses me

394
00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:27.559
off about seven eleven is the variants
in stores, Like you go to one

395
00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:30.039
in Sack and it just doesn't feel
good, Like it feels kind of a

396
00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:33.599
franchise. Yeah, but you got
I went to one in Vegas and it

397
00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:37.599
felt like a fucking Refreshment's mall.
Like it felt amazing. Every don't go

398
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:42.640
to then everything's nice. Still going
to that seven eleven downtown day, Yeah,

399
00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:47.119
that's what I'm saying. That's the
world's most dangerous seven eleven, I

400
00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:48.599
think correct. Yeah, that's what
I'm saying. If you can even make

401
00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:52.960
it into the door without getting robbed
or stabbed or like there's always something sketch

402
00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:59.039
you going on out front? Oh
no, I hate it doesn't Dan next

403
00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:03.160
story, Yeah, Dance Dance Company, it's next, or to that seven

404
00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:07.400
eleven downtown No, but uh the
jay Lofts the Yeah, it's right by

405
00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:08.279
the Jays. Yeah, he runs
with the jay Loofts. Got it.

406
00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:11.640
Yeah, it's bad. Yeah,
seven eleven. For some reason, just

407
00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.599
California, I feel like so sketchy. Every other state up into Texas,

408
00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:19.720
whatever, they're all hell and ice
circle K was really big here and does

409
00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:22.240
that exist anymore? I think it
does. I think it does. Yeah,

410
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:25.359
or they're like yeah, I don't
know, I don't know. They

411
00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:26.559
have more yea slurpy time. I
mean, we just need BUCkies, and

412
00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:30.640
I think they will change the whole
state. You ever been to BUCkies?

413
00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:36.440
I've never been Bucky actually, I
think I think I went once on like

414
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:38.640
one of those fitness trips. Yeah, they have they have a small version

415
00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:41.160
too. They'll have like a seven
eleven size, but the normal buck you

416
00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:44.960
can go to the big dog one, like the like the twenty thousand square

417
00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:48.519
one. Yeah, you need one
hundred car wash lane one that just feels

418
00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:55.640
so America like like they're they're a
seven eleven that is more like a Walmart.

419
00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.599
Uh but good but good. Yeah, all of its They like got

420
00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:03.319
good food and hot foods, Hella
good. They have like twenty different flavors

421
00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:07.119
of their own almonds, Hella good. Bathrooms clean as shit. Immaculate.

422
00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.400
Is that what they probably themselves on
all of it? Dude, is so

423
00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:14.359
immaculate. I remember hearing something about
that. Like the buck He's like our

424
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:15.759
number one priorities, Like the clean
bat it's clean. It's one. You

425
00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:18.319
go to the gas station, they
have a what is it called, like

426
00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:23.799
a stigma where the stigma I don't
know how to talk. Um, it's

427
00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:27.079
early. Yeah, of like bad
bathrooms and there are things like not arts.

428
00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:30.519
They're Ship's Christine. Yeah, it's
pristine, the whole the whole operation.

429
00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:33.960
You eat one of their almonds off
the toilet, probably if I got

430
00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.119
paid. Yeah, yeah, it
feels like a big dare. It's clean

431
00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:41.480
enough, it's clean enough. Yeah, it's really it really is an immaculate

432
00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:45.079
it's a spot. I'm proud of
it. Yeah, yeah, I don't

433
00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:48.799
know what the whole agenda here was. It was weird obviously, like those

434
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:52.000
whoever is the producer and ship probably
aren't getting a lot of gigs after this

435
00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:56.200
because they did look bad. Oh, the producers of Gladiators, they look

436
00:25:56.240 --> 00:25:59.920
bad because that first season, like
how reckless it was, which is I

437
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.599
guess a little bit of maybe why
they're doing this to show how TV was

438
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:07.160
still kind of the wild wild West. Then, right, like low budget,

439
00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:10.799
they're literally just shooting. That's like
YouTube. Now YouTube is higher elevated

440
00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:12.880
than that is, right, like
a mister Beast video is higher than that

441
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:17.799
first season in terms of production.
For sure, well thought out, like

442
00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:22.599
mister Beast is a genius. Um
and then yeah, and then obviously the

443
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:26.319
merchandise deal. They look hella bad
and then they look like dis Yeah,

444
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:30.119
for sure, I'm surprised they couldn't
get all the Gladiators to say nah though,

445
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.759
Like it seemed like three of the
four main did right, but a

446
00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:34.960
couple of them stuck around. Yeah. The other ones were just like they're

447
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:38.160
the late add ons that were just
happy to be there because they weren't doing

448
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:44.079
anything. Yeah. Tower reminds me
of like the brother from Everybody Loves Raymond.

449
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:47.319
Yeah, Tower was still jacked.
Yeah. Doesn't he look like that

450
00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:49.880
guy in the face it's a famous
comedian Brad Yeah, Garrett, Yeah,

451
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:56.119
it looks like that too on the
steroids, the brothers, Yeah they um.

452
00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:00.559
Yeah. When we saw him in
the last episode, he was he

453
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.559
looks like he'd done a bodybuilding show. Was pretty. He's still running that

454
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:06.119
Jew's heart. Yeah, and how
typical he's just like selling cars. He

455
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:08.279
just looks like a car salesman too. He looks like the most typical Dade.

456
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:12.079
Literally my favorite character. And the
whole thing is the guy who was

457
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:19.480
like the most winning male detro no
no competitor. Oh the guy who Yeah,

458
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:23.920
they went cut him up and he
ended up in Mexican jail though human

459
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:29.680
because he did human trafficking for ten
years. The kind of dropped. No,

460
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.200
that was so smooth and so little. So this guy, this guy

461
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.799
that was crazy. He's known in
the American gladiator world as being a dirty

462
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.440
player. Right, yeah, he's
what he said. He's old reported and

463
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.359
he kind of no they did too, right, They said he liked trying

464
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:47.240
to make people bleed and he was
dirty. And then for some reason,

465
00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:51.240
he talks about his steroid adventure going
to Mexico, and then he talks about

466
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:53.599
how much money he makes getting humans
across the border, and they think he

467
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:57.440
was more of a mule than Yeah, he wasn't like kidnapping people. He

468
00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:00.359
was yeah, yeah taking yeah,
yeah he shows Yeah he was an illegal

469
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:04.359
shuttle yeah yeah, and then you
know, illegal immigration. He was getting

470
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:07.759
people from Mexico to the US.
Yeah I misspoken. Yeah he wasn't.

471
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:12.400
He wasn't robbing people. He was
he was helping them. He was doing.

472
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:15.359
Gods a lot of problems at the
Mexican border with this group of people.

473
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:19.960
Yeah, because then you got Nitro. Nitro with the gun, with

474
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:22.680
that bullshit story about he was shooting
with his friends, like there's no way

475
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.400
around. He just carried a loaded
gun with him. There's no way,

476
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:27.880
right, because if you're shooting with
your friends, you unload that bitch put

477
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:30.839
in his case, that's what he
just that was his story. Yeah,

478
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.200
for sure, he just he just
carries a gun. Well, he went

479
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:37.799
to Mexico to do steroid deals,
I mean just going to the light station

480
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:40.480
though in buy steroids in Mexico.
Yeah, you can't. I don't know

481
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:41.359
that that's what he was doing though, That's what it sounded like. He

482
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:44.359
said he went to Mexico to go
buy it. Yeah, but he might

483
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:45.279
have, like Jim said, like
if he's lying about the gun, he

484
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.400
might have also been he might have
been bringing that back for Tower and Titan.

485
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.599
You know. Yeah, you're right, he probably was like stalking up.

486
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:52.680
Yeah, he could have been,
right, Yeah, yeah, that's

487
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.960
fair. Who knows. It could
have been personal use as well. But

488
00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:00.279
but I'm in at the same time
too, like if you the you know

489
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:04.400
nineties, if if he went to
Mexico and actually went to a pharmacy,

490
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.480
or a gas station or whatever and
bought a bunch of stuff. Like how

491
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:10.599
many people saw that? And it's
like, oh, we can just like

492
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:12.920
this guy's an easy markable does knock
him off? And yeah and take this

493
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:15.720
stuff for ourselves and even the cops, right, like what car? Like

494
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.720
obviously they weren't making a shit ton
of money, but that one tour they

495
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.799
made whatever five g's a day or
so five a week, you know,

496
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.440
so like they're doing Okay, what
kind of cars? You drive him by

497
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:29.759
from Mexico to America with a load
of glow? Right, it sounds like

498
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:32.400
they were blowing that money. Yeah, yeah, like you're screaming buying a

499
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:34.240
Corvette. Yeah, you're gonna catch
some attention, right, he's not driving

500
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:37.279
it. You know. I couldn't
get like I couldn't under like one then

501
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:41.119
that one lady says she was getting
five hundred bucks a show. I bet

502
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:44.440
you it was like that because like
later on, like after the tour.

503
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:47.480
Yeah, I feel like they only
really got paid during that tour. Yeah,

504
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:48.799
or maybe if you were the guy
like gem and I maybe got paid

505
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.039
and the other ones didn't. You
know, there's there's probably tons of the

506
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.839
politics even going in there. They
just signed these awful out the gate contracts

507
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:03.359
that just took. It was like
such a gamble contract for the production and

508
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.799
the like producers like like, we're
gonna take all the risk. You guys

509
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:10.279
are gonna get this, and this
is gonna be a lifetime deal because this

510
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:12.400
thing can do be a total flop
and down gets to anything. And then

511
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.920
they just signed it because they got
nothing else going on, and then it

512
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:18.240
blows the fuck up. Yeah,
and then they kind of don't really get

513
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:21.960
anything else. Yeah. Most people
don't realize that, Like, if you're

514
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:27.960
going into a TV show before the
network or whatever or streamer or whatever buys

515
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:33.279
it, you're signing your contract for
two or three years, you know,

516
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:40.440
and sometimes longer than that. And
Goldwin's like, we don't. We don't

517
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:45.119
renegotiate. My dad didn't renegotiate,
so I don't like that's why. Okay,

518
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.319
well, your dad lived in a
different time. This thing went way

519
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.880
beyond where it was expected to go. And they don't admit to the amount

520
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.400
of money they made off of it. Ever, no one knows how much

521
00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.160
money it really made. No,
And that's that's true of of entertainment in

522
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.599
general, though, like nobody knows
how much really a movie clears or a

523
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:08.119
TV show or whatever. Do you
think this was made because maybe American Gladiator

524
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:11.880
three point I was coming could be. It's not out of the realm of

525
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.079
possibility. I don't know how it
would do in this environment though. That's

526
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:18.200
actually a good question. I think
I do, Okay, I mean the

527
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:21.279
Titans game for a second, Rocks
thing had a little momentum, did it.

528
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.119
I think it did. I had
a lot of washed that bodybuilder or

529
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:26.240
power letters and crossfitters in it.
Yeah. It had what's her name?

530
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.519
Yeah, Charity want Charity and then
also, uh what's her name? From

531
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.839
Spiegel was the Spiegel on it?
Two? Yeah? And then the other

532
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:40.759
girl from Rockland CrossFit? Uh,
what's her name? I know Spiegel was

533
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:45.799
on it. The little gal she's
big but little, big but little.

534
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:48.160
I don't know the game's athlete.
Anyway, she would did it. She's

535
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:51.880
like really into like shoot, they're
both into shooting now. Charity, yeah,

536
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:53.160
Charity is for sure. But Danny
Spiegel is still in the mix and

537
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:59.839
CrossFit you know. Margo Margo Margo
Yeah, yeah, no, is she

538
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.680
whole thing too? Probably does think
she was doing long drive. She might

539
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:06.920
be. She might be because she's
like really into like the shooting comps.

540
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:08.880
Yeah, yeah, that's so funny. But they're yeah, I mean they're

541
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:14.440
all good athletes. They're probably better
athletes than the randos on American Gladiator.

542
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:16.319
That's true, you know what I
mean? Yeah, for sure, I

543
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:19.960
could. I don't know, man, I think it myself turning in every

544
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.480
night to watch it. I mean
I wouldn't either, But we're not like

545
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.480
mainstream America. I used to love, Like whenever I used to see Ninja

546
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:28.000
Warrior just on, I would throw
that one or wipe out. You watch

547
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:29.920
a season or two, wipe out. It's kind of funny at first.

548
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:31.640
It is funny at first, it
wears out quick. But if you get

549
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:36.119
well, imagine you get like legitimate
because social media is so big now.

550
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.319
And that's what Titan Games did well, right, Like you cast people with

551
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:42.920
the social media so you automatically get
a little gig going. You could do

552
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:47.319
that with American Gladiator. What if
it's Sebum and Rush Swool fucking Bart Kwon

553
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:51.519
they're the Gladiators, Like there,
it's gonna give views, no if you

554
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.279
get if you get the right people, it has to be celebrity based to

555
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:58.039
work. I think this day Star. Yeah, yeah, that'd be harder.

556
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.359
That'd be harder for sure, unless
there's some freak. Yeah, you

557
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:04.000
get like a couple like x NFL
guys pros versus Jos with a little bit

558
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:06.920
of name behind him. Yeah,
the pros versus Joe. How many times

559
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.559
have they failed? Though? The
pros vers shows was always last one season

560
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:12.519
and they just dissolved. There was
a literal show named pros Versus Joe's who

561
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.160
remember that someone got almost killed.
I don't remember that, but I did

562
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.640
like the I like the concept.
It was literal pros versus jokes, like

563
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:22.759
you're playing basketball. It would be
like me playing basketball against Terrell Owens.

564
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:29.119
That's a great concept. They had
guys like fucking think of like the best

565
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.720
cornerback, yeah, or the best
tight ends. I think to was on

566
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:36.279
it right, Like they had legitimate
athlete just a defensive tackle and then they

567
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:37.960
have like some Joe catch a ball
and they would just light him up when

568
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:42.759
you guys died. Yeah, My
assistant basketball coach was like in the last

569
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:45.559
and he was a really good athlete. All state football basketball Nevada played quarterback

570
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:51.200
d one Um almost played D one
baseball after he had too many concussions from

571
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:53.519
football, like really good athletes.
Shout out Timmy, Timmy Sprinkles. What

572
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:58.960
a name, Jimmy Sprinkles did one
of my that's a real name, real

573
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:00.960
name. One of my favorite humans
all the time. Taught me so much

574
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:05.799
in lives. Shout out Timmy.
I think he was trying out for pros

575
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:08.199
for shows and made like the last
rank, but he'd like that, Like

576
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:10.760
if he would have made it,
he could have like hung you know what

577
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:15.119
I mean, Like he was legitimate
almost all American type. Some of these

578
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:16.679
people got destroyed and then I think
they had a canceler it. Yeah,

579
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:20.280
you can't getting because they were got
suited. It's about American gladiator, right,

580
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.800
Like there's no way some of those
athletes didn't get fucked up. Yeah,

581
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:25.239
oh yeah, they only talked about
the gladiators getting sucked up. What

582
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:29.440
about the competitive day? I'm sure, Like how many blown out knees did

583
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.119
they have to show? I couldn't. I can't watch that. Yeah,

584
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:36.320
I can't watch that. The track
star right, yeah, yeah, she

585
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:37.679
blew out aneth that looked really bad. You just see every time. You

586
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.920
just know it because all that shitty
turf with those shops. Oh my god.

587
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:45.079
It's just like I feel it's risking
to blow out. The reboot even

588
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:49.360
had maybe bad more badasses, like
like Jen was d one almost all American.

589
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.800
I think track Gina Corno's obviously a
freak. Yeah. If I'm a

590
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:54.280
random lady, I'm not trying to
fight either of them. Yeah. I

591
00:34:54.280 --> 00:35:01.000
think Jen snatched like two twenty five
trying to with her the um Yeah.

592
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:05.360
The Titan thing was I watched the
first one, Like I watched that first

593
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.960
season or at least like some of
the episodes, you know, because I

594
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.800
knew Charity from like the Arnold and
Chip, so I was like, oh,

595
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:13.199
I know this girl or I know
Margot. I'll watch them compete.

596
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:15.320
Yeah. Yeah, the shows have
like yeah, I don't think they have

597
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.199
the lifespan. You're not gonna watch
ten seasons of it because it gets old.

598
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:21.960
But I think if you come with
a little spice, they could you

599
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:25.400
know what I mean, they could
get a little Yeah maybe, but is

600
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.880
uh Steve Austin still doing issue.
Yeah, Steve Austin did one that was

601
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.679
popular. Yeah, that was it. The Ranch yet out a bunch of

602
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.079
Fitters too, that was like celebrity
kind of base. Yeah, I think

603
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:38.679
that's the kind of how you have
to do it though, right, you

604
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:42.400
do for sure, But but yeah, if you come with the I think

605
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:45.599
American Gladio three point, I could
have like a two season run. Yeah,

606
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:47.599
if you're get me, Dope Gladiators
and dope Contestant isn't how they do

607
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:51.119
shows nowadays anyways. Most of the
time it's like you signed a two US

608
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:53.440
season deal. Yeah, there's no
way. Common there's no way any game

609
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:57.440
shows last in ten years anymore.
You know, Like Who Wants to be

610
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.480
a Millionaire's probably still out there new, but there's just no way people are

611
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:05.159
watching it like they used to.
Wheel of Fortunate still going feud Yeah,

612
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.639
still good. Yeah, yeah,
Jeopardy. But you'd does a good job

613
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:13.880
of mixing in like normals, normies
and celebrity families. It was funny how

614
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:19.719
many, which I remember too,
how many celebrity style stuff came into Gladiator,

615
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.360
Like I remember the Family Matters episode. I don't know if you watched

616
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:23.840
Family Matters like that, Oh you
mean like them going on? Yeah?

617
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:27.239
Yeah, Rather like people said,
dude, you're so big, we want

618
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.360
to be part of the phenomena and
built a whole episode around it. Now,

619
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:31.760
you wonder how that they got hired
for that. Did they go through

620
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:35.159
like the Gladiator people and they just
did it and then like, oh,

621
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:37.239
yeah, we'll take care of his
pay. I bet they were, or

622
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:40.119
were they paying them? Like their
crossovers. Yeah, they're probably both ran

623
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:44.079
by WB or Universal or some shit, you know what I mean. So

624
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.800
it's probably so easy their syndication,
Yeah, or like I remember, is

625
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:52.199
it Family Matters or Full House?
One of them bitches went to Disney.

626
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.679
But it was like I think already
when Disney had bought ABC and they were

627
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:59.760
ABC shows. So it's probably just
so easy then, mightn't I have all

628
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:02.320
been Goldwin? What was with that
movie with Nitro when he cuts Gemini's throat

629
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:08.800
with the debit card? That Dax
But yeah, it was debit card was

630
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:13.119
a thing back then. It was
a gold amex. How wild that was

631
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.920
insane? Was that what's her name
seemed to have a little career? Like

632
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:20.960
Jag was a real show? Is
a zapp? Yeah to the Playboy,

633
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:25.360
Yeah, Jack was such a real
show that that, Uh, let's not

634
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:31.800
ce science the other one, um
Christ The NCIS. NCIS is a spinoff

635
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:35.480
of Jack. Yeah, see like
oh really yeah, and then she was

636
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:37.880
in another movie or something. She
seemed to like kind of build a career

637
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.760
off of it. It's kind of
weird that like Nitro in them couldn't like

638
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:45.039
how they were getting like real roles. Yeah you know what I mean,

639
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:46.719
our roles in movies. Yeah,
you think they would be able to sneak

640
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:51.800
in as like the Walmart Sylvester stallone
because that era was like that. That's

641
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:54.039
all it was your action, big
big muscle action. The Nitro I was

642
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:57.639
okay at hosting. I don't think
he was a good actor. Yeah,

643
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.360
well what actual obviously I was still
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't. Yeah,

644
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.960
they did, like that one karate
movie they were trying to show he

645
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:07.760
was in that. They just all
looked like straight to VHS type movies.

646
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.119
Yeah, which who knows its probably
there's a market for those, Like there's

647
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:14.320
a there's studios that only make those
because they know that they're going to squeeze

648
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.039
out like a couple million bucks in
profit every time. It doesn't matter.

649
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:20.280
That was the Blumhouse model. Yeah, it just works. Yeah. The

650
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:23.519
second pilot we shot to do reality
TV H was with the guy that basically

651
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:28.400
owned that world in red Box.
So for the three four years that red

652
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:30.679
Box was bopped in, yeah,
they always had their own movies. He

653
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:32.360
would make a he'd make a five, you know, fifty one hundred thousand

654
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:36.199
dollars movie and then sell it for
three hundred thousand and so the profits still

655
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:37.559
there, and just do made a
quick car. You do two movies a

656
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:40.800
year, three four movies a year, you're interesting rather than yeah, trying

657
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:44.239
to spend five millions. Some of
those are kind of fun to watch.

658
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.519
Some are decent because they're so leasually
literally light, and it's like ridiculous.

659
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:49.559
You're like, oh, that was
like so stupid. That was funny.

660
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:52.159
And some of those have been the
thing forever, right like the Hallmark movies

661
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.760
or the Disney Channel movies like and
and some of those, Yeah, they're

662
00:38:55.880 --> 00:39:00.480
they're not bad. And obviously now
it's evolved where those are arguable just as

663
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:04.000
good as movie theater movies. Right
Like Netflix comes out with bangers sometimes everyone.

664
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:07.079
HBO comes out with bangers sometimes more
than anybody, right, and Netflix

665
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:12.440
Original HBO comes with some hitters.
I mean, those series are basically movies,

666
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:14.559
right, like Game of Thrones,
the fucking, fucking the movie we

667
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:19.519
did, the Jordan movie that was
supposed to be a Last Dance, No

668
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:24.440
no, no, Last Air that
was made for Amazon. Yeah, and

669
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:29.159
it didn't and it was only going
to go to stream. And then they

670
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:30.320
side, oh the way, this
is like good enough to put in the

671
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:36.440
theaters. Ye. True. Then
like obviously The Irishman, and then there's

672
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:38.800
a lot of million, other million
other ones, but hit, Yeah it

673
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:44.519
was. Um it was a good
little nostalgia because some of these are yeah,

674
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:46.840
just pre what I'm about, same
with He's the same with the Yeah

675
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:50.440
Air right, like that happened like
eighty five. I was born in eighty

676
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:53.119
eight. It was like just before
my recollection of this world. This kind

677
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:57.119
of fitted nicely with like that Arnold
doc a lot. It kind of just

678
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:00.880
like Arnold Duck was. Yeah it's
fair, Ye, it's fair. Also

679
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:05.599
like I think The sweet Spot is
definitely three episodes for sure, Like all

680
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:09.079
these producers need to realize like trying
to stretch it out over five like you're

681
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:12.119
I didn't like once I saw it
was five, I was like, oh

682
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.480
fuck, like I'm gonna have to
grind. There were just making like an

683
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.239
hour and a half actual doc.
Yeah, one deal Yeah, I don't

684
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:22.280
know why I think this story.
Actually, maybe it's just because I'm immune

685
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:24.519
to arnold story because I've heard it
a million times. But this story had

686
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:28.639
a lot of potential. Did I
don't think they did enough with it?

687
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:30.719
Yeah, they did it fine,
They didn't. Yeah, they harped on

688
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:34.559
the Yeah, how do we not
dig more into this motherfucker getting jail time

689
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:37.920
in Mexico? How do we not
hear more about the party in the cocaine

690
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:39.960
and the Yeah. Yeah, they
just kept showing fucking Nitro showing ass on

691
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.119
the bus. They're like, yeah, we were going to see that him

692
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.159
in at I saw more dude ass
in this film that I've seen in my

693
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:49.440
whole life, more dudes crying than
women crying, and they're literally all banging

694
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.599
each other. Nitro Nitro story.
They tried to evolve a little bit with

695
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:54.400
this mom and dad, you know, but like that's like the only one

696
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:59.119
I felt like they tried to get
emotional with a little bit. What was

697
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:01.840
the white guy's name, not Nitro, Laser, Titan, Laser, Laser,

698
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:07.119
Laser, we saw lasers ass a
lot laser. That's man ass.

699
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:13.039
Who was the guy with the beard
that was the longest remember, Yeah,

700
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.639
like the gray Beard, he cried
a lot, he cried a lot.

701
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:19.320
That wasn't laser. Oh that might
have been laser. Maybe it was.

702
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:21.920
I think those lasers who at the
ends like yeah, I'm still friends with

703
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:23.800
everybody and shit, yeah, I
think that was laser. I think that

704
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:30.000
was laser. All the girls were
lesbians, except they weren't out yet except

705
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:31.360
Zap. Two of them were.
That's why. Man, there was only

706
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:37.480
but there was only what three girls
there were? There were probably more than

707
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:39.239
they were play more than yeah.
Yeah, but in the beginning there's yea

708
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:43.679
three three blond girl look the same. I do wonder if you know they

709
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:46.800
were the first evolution of the muscle
mommy and and I'm for it, Oh

710
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:50.599
for sure, and I'm all for
it. Those they looked good. I

711
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:54.880
like a little good they looked I
was yeah, no complaints. Yeah,

712
00:41:54.920 --> 00:42:00.559
the one they spent way too much
time on that story with like her stealing

713
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:01.920
that chick that they all wanted to
bang. Yeah. Yeah, they're just

714
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:05.760
trying to add some cod comedy.
Yeah that was kind of It was funny.

715
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:08.480
That was funny, But it looked
like, um, something that would

716
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:12.719
happen in a group of people that
age at that time for sure. Yeah,

717
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:16.880
I wonder how twenty six just whiling
out. I think that like the

718
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:22.679
biggest mistake that happens to all these
people, um in, anybody that gets

719
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:25.679
a whole lot of fame kind of
on the quickly side and it has access

720
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:29.480
to money, is that they feel
like that they have to party all the

721
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:31.559
time. Yeah, they didn't really
dive into the drugs as much like they

722
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:35.599
sprinkled over it, you know,
but they kept like he sits down,

723
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:37.239
he said, if I'm snorting a
lot, does anyone have cocaine? Like

724
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.239
that was like the first thing Nitro
says the interview, you know, so

725
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:45.800
like clearly there's like Hollywood esque things
going on. And they mentioned like oh,

726
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:47.519
party on the bus. But then
all they show is like obviously I

727
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:51.760
don't want to need visuals of them
snorting lines, but like gem and I

728
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:52.320
was like, yeah, we're having
some beers. I'm like, no,

729
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:58.039
like, motherfucker's getting dirty, Like
oh yeah, well even Nitros about yeah,

730
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:00.039
they were just doing all kinds of
drugs, excess cocaine. Yeah,

731
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.440
but they did that. Like those
portions of the show I felt were so

732
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:05.559
casual and the other one's like,
yeah, I was so beat up.

733
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:08.320
I was addicted to pain meds and
then they moved on addicted to morphine.

734
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:13.360
Yeah, and then they moved on. She was injecting morphine into her muscle

735
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.199
soreness and then eventually started mainveining it. Yeah, like she had glossed over

736
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:20.079
that. Yes, it's really quick
feel her body. Yeah, she was

737
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:24.000
just fucking addicted to morphine, which
is a synthetic carowin. Yeah. Yeah,

738
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:28.719
it was wild. I feel like
that you could take two or three

739
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:31.440
of these people and you could write
a script around it, and you could

740
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:37.920
make it not be you know,
exactly American gladiators, and you could make

741
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.320
a movie that would work like like
The Wrestler. Yeah, yeah, like

742
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:43.800
a wrestler vibe. Yeah, I
think so. Yeah, you just followed

743
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.920
and watched that movie that was so
good as recently again, I'm like,

744
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:50.079
fuck, I forgot how good this
movie wise, it's really good. The

745
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:52.159
crazy thing about that is that it
started out as the same script as The

746
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:57.119
Black Swan, the Natalie Portman movie. Yeah, I've seen that. Yeah,

747
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.519
it was started out as the same
movie. And because the characters are

748
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:04.400
very similar in terms of their their
journey, one of them is having a

749
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:06.679
real journey and the other one is
having a mental journey. Yeah, and

750
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.840
and but they're both trying to redeem
themselves, you know, try to try

751
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:14.880
to to create fame for themselves when
they they feel like they have failed in

752
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:20.079
the past. Interesting. Yeah,
interesting how they two for one two for

753
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:22.880
one. Yeah. Yeah, movie, I just waited shot. It's just

754
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:24.400
gritty. Yeah, it's just like, man, they just don't make movies

755
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:30.960
like that. Everything now is just
so polished and such shitty. Yeah,

756
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:35.760
a lot of attitude. I agree. Um, anybody, I said,

757
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:37.199
my favorite character, and you guys
have favorite characters. The whole thing.

758
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:43.800
Probably the director the guy, Yeah, he's talking about like Davy. Yeah,

759
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:45.960
and he's talking about like Dayton home
Girl, and she's like, what,

760
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.679
we like sat next to each other
once and then and then they bring

761
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:51.280
up the one girl went to Playboy. He's like, I'm a fan of

762
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:54.039
that material or something that's a fan
of that material. Had that huge porn

763
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:57.159
collection. Yeah, he said,
I'm a large fan of that type of

764
00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:00.599
material. And and he just looks
like a pervert. Yeah, Like he

765
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:05.679
just looks like the grimiest Yeah.
And his wife Throll was porn in the

766
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:07.199
pool. Yeah, he was funny. He was kind of funny. Clearly

767
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:10.840
you have porn addict. Yeah,
and yeah I fell in love with Zapp

768
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:15.199
or whatever her name is, definitely
through the through the episodes, I fell

769
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:19.639
in love. But she was incredibly
well preserved. Some of them looked like

770
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.239
hard Oh yeah, yeah, she
looked all right. Yeah, it was

771
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:24.360
just most of the women looked okay, but better than the dudes. A

772
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:28.360
couple of their voices got a little
you know you they kept in shay they

773
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:30.079
did, that's for sure. They
didn't like, you know, go the

774
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:34.280
opposite act like most athletes are steroid. They just tryding to just kind of

775
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:36.760
the guys. You know, Gemini
is not young, and he looked pretty

776
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:39.559
good. Laser looked big, good, look decent. Towers obviously like Jack

777
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:43.280
Jack, but the other ones looked
pretty decent. Michael Hern's obviously Jack this

778
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:45.000
fuck still. That's why I thought, because agewise, Michael Horn kind of

779
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.280
lines up. He's got to be
mid fifties, right, Yeah, yeah,

780
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:50.880
I thought Michael Horn. Because Jen's
only a little bit older than me.

781
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:54.519
I think that Mike kind of missed
his slot. Yeah, he's in

782
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:58.639
between the Yeah, he's just in
between he might have been just too young.

783
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.719
But my point from earlier was that
he took the or they gave him

784
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:06.159
the name of the guy that was
booted off the show in the first round

785
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:12.280
for steroid, Yeah for Royd rageh
oh that he says he never took anything.

786
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:17.800
And and this is just one hundred
from the from purely view, that

787
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:21.719
guy actually did look the most natural
because he just held more body fat.

788
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:25.000
So it's a little bit more market
tell um, but the original Titan of

789
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:30.400
the group, original Titan, mister
it looked the most natural out of that

790
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:34.639
group. And he was black.
Yeah yeah, yeah, he just and

791
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:36.400
he did hold a little more body
fat, but he just looked like the

792
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:38.800
NFL cat that, yeah he was. He also didn't know he was very

793
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:42.800
tall. Yeah no, yeah,
he looked like a yeah, yeah,

794
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:45.840
I wears Michael Herness, what's six
two issues. Yeah, he's he looks

795
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.199
to at least video. He's a
big dude. Yeah, I'm like,

796
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.480
I think I met him once.
I thought that maybe Sprinkle in at least

797
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.320
the the second version. The second
version was popular too. I think that

798
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:59.400
there were maybe thinking sequel. I
don't, yeah, I hope not,

799
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:00.519
but you know what, I mean, they could have they could have mentioned

800
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:06.360
it, And because I think actually
the success of the Gladiators from the reboot,

801
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:10.079
their career success was bigger than these
ones. I think that probably.

802
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:15.000
Yeah, like Michael Hearns obviously internet
help. Did you do Hercules? Yeah?

803
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:16.800
Yeah, he did a Hercules for
sure. That's what I think I

804
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:19.880
was thinking about. He was like
a big he had a big role.

805
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:22.840
He's had a couple of Disney Channel
roles. His social media is obviously big

806
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.800
gen obviously being a trainer on the
Biggest Loser Gina Corno and Fast and Furious

807
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:30.440
plus r MMA career, Tonaway read
Tonaways fucking in every movie the Rocks ever

808
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:36.480
been in, you know, like
they're legitimate. They're legitimate Hollywood people.

809
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.960
Where where they mentioned it at the
end here that if social media was a

810
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:43.800
thing, these Gladiators might have had
a different path to which yeah, bigger,

811
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:45.800
Yeah for sure with the looks and
you know, it was really sad

812
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:51.039
when they started doing the like Nights
at the Roundtable like live show. Yeah,

813
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:54.000
that was that is sad. When
they talked about that Orlando of all

814
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:58.679
places, medieval times, yeah,
medieval times. Yeah, cable guy,

815
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:02.239
have your your fried chicken. Yeah, and just watched them kind of prance

816
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:07.159
around. Yeah, that is pretty
sad competing against the same people night after

817
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:08.880
night after night. It's the Globetrotters. Yeah, it literally was. Yeah,

818
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:13.039
it literally was. Yeah, that
is a little where's the Globetrotters doc?

819
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:16.159
I think there is. Probably there's
gotta be a good one, dude,

820
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:20.239
Like the original story of it's probably
good. Now we all know what

821
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.199
it is, but I bet you
in the seventies, eighties, and nineties

822
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:25.880
will be very similar to this,
probably, I mean it's it. It's

823
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:30.320
cultural impact might even be bigger,
right because it bled into like the and

824
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.000
One tour. We didn't do a
video on that, did we? Because

825
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:36.639
the and one documentary is actually really
good? Oh yeah we watched. I

826
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:37.920
watched. I think you and I
talked about it, but I think we

827
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.960
did. We haven't talked about it
that. The impact of that is so

828
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.639
great and the lifespans even shorter than
anything else, you know. Yeah,

829
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:49.840
that was a really big for really
like seven eight mins literally just when we

830
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:53.039
were in high school. Yeah yeah, like the shoe obviously short lived but

831
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:59.079
big impact, and the tour itself, the street ball life was was short

832
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:04.480
lived. But high impact, trying
to like you go to Mervin's and you

833
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.760
could find like a dope and worn
shirt, you know in the shorts went

834
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.800
down the side. Yeah, it
was like for the people. Yeah.

835
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:15.599
Michael Hearne was also in the reboot
of night Rider? Nice? Was he

836
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:19.159
the main guy? Was he?
Is that Nick Cage? No? Night

837
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.719
Rider was the guy? Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh yeah

838
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:28.400
right yeah yeah, Um what's his
name? Hassle Off has Off? Remember

839
00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:31.159
he was all dropped off or he
was drunk eating that burger over that video.

840
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:37.960
Yeah, yeah, hammer He's just
like yeah, all high so funny.

841
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:40.920
So Michael hern is also in this
movie, this upcoming movie, Magazine

842
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.599
Dreams. What's that about? It's
a black amateur bodybuilder struggles to find human

843
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:51.920
connection in this exploration of celebrity and
violence. I've heard it's supposed to be

844
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:57.920
pretty good, but it's not out
yet. Interesting. Uh, I guess

845
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:04.119
we should rate this motherfucker. Yeah. Um, I'm struggling to find a

846
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:08.199
good non steroid based Yeah, we
do syringes for sure. Syringes, Okay,

847
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:13.559
let's do syringes. Jousting sticks yeah
yeah, the sticks good too,

848
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:19.119
rip knees, huge old sticks to
our knees, fake tits. Yeah,

849
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:22.840
it was so nineties. It was
oh yeah, they had the pecks with

850
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:24.679
the tennis ball tits. Yeah.
Yeah. The girl even said that,

851
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.000
is that one of the tennis balls
from the game? Yeah, put under

852
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:31.920
your skin? Yeah, I wonder
how bad that gun hurts because those were

853
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:36.480
tennis balls. Rights pretty Yeah,
it's not like that probably would have let

854
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:37.559
yeah, yeah, especially if I
got you right in the face. Yeah,

855
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:40.760
like wearing the nuts. Yeah,
they no, they just literally had

856
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:44.199
like boxing gear. Dude, if
that hits me in the nose, that's

857
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:46.039
just kind of hurt. Oh we
break your nose? Yeah. Um.

858
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:50.280
Syringes syringes, Yeah, I'll give
it, you know to two point eight

859
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:55.519
syringes, a couple of ccs.
I remember growing up really liking American gladiators

860
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:58.519
in this, you know, if
you like American gladiators, Yeah, I

861
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:00.719
might creep up to a three?
Is it the rates? Doc? Ever?

862
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:05.079
Probably not, because there's not that
much stuff. You know, there's

863
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:07.519
a bunch of like little funny things, but there's nothing like nothing like hit

864
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.360
the soul necessarily. I don't think
Nitro's story a little bit. That was

865
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:14.039
kind of sad. It was it
was tapped in a little bit. But

866
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:19.239
you know, like, I guess
I believe it because I believe his mom's

867
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:23.440
story for sure. Yeah, I
believe that. That the incredibly um sad

868
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:29.079
story of his dad ripping his kids
away from his mom and then the brother

869
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:32.960
dying. The other story with Laser
and his dad was interesting too, Yeah,

870
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:37.320
where his dad never really know how
to express his love form. That

871
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:38.960
got me a little. That story
was hugged a little bit. That story

872
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:43.599
was like that little piece was nice, but all those arely Yeah, they're

873
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.719
like thirty second pieces. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well watch the season two

874
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:50.719
of The Bear because that's all about
people who don't know how to give and

875
00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:54.599
receive love. The Restaurant Show,
Yeah, there's already second season. Yeah,

876
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:59.119
yeah, Sexy. They dropped all
all ten episodes at once too,

877
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:02.400
Hulu. I thought that show just
came out. Now it's been a it's

878
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:07.960
a pretty short interval between seasons one
and two. But they but they but

879
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:12.440
they shot season one kind of a
long time ago and finally dropped it.

880
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:14.760
Yeah. See, I hear about
it. I haven't watched. It's so

881
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:17.119
good. Probably the best thing on
TV I've seen this year. Yeah,

882
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:22.760
really, really, really really funny
serious both it's about a starting a restaurant.

883
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:27.039
It's a comedy. Well, the
first season was about the main character's

884
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:35.199
brother having committed suicide and he owned
this um Italian beef foodstand restaurant thing in

885
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:43.599
Chicago and he was a like three
star Michelin chef. And so he comes

886
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:45.920
home because he's always had this stream
of he wanted to work with his brother,

887
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:51.679
and he wanted to open a restaurant
with his brother, and his brother

888
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:55.320
would never let him, and so
he comes in and takes it over like

889
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:59.440
he's inherited it from his brother,
and then sort of all the trouble they

890
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:05.360
have trying to keep it keep it
going in the first season and then the

891
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:07.760
second season. At the end of
the first season, they come into some

892
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:12.400
money I won't get into how and
then because they decide they're going to close

893
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.000
that restaurant and open the restaurant that
he wanted to open with his brother,

894
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:20.400
but they end up needing a whole
lot more money for that to happen.

895
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:25.159
So this season is is them um
tearing the old restaurant apart and building the

896
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:31.159
new restaurant, building the menus,
and then like um probably the best part

897
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:35.599
of it is recognizing, Okay,
this is the crew that I have,

898
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:42.079
how do I maximize their skills to
create success for everyone. There's some just

899
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:47.199
really good episodes about about that.
That sounds interesting. Yeah, sounds relatable

900
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:51.239
Top of Ale in its own way. Yeah, episode six, You're gonna

901
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:52.440
need some xanax for that, so
I'll just tell you ahead of time,

902
00:53:52.559 --> 00:54:00.159
like, yeah, I feel family
argument, giant Italian family arguments. That's

903
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:07.719
my background. There you go,
this trauma so warned. Yeah, um

904
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:09.639
see, I due. Fuck man, I'd give it us a two five

905
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:15.960
two two out of five. It
was incredibly too long. Yeah, I

906
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:17.679
think it could have could have been
easily like a two hour hour and a

907
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:22.320
half or three episode and I would
have been better, But it still probably

908
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:24.360
wouldn't have been like a over a
three. Yeah, probably three and a

909
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:30.159
half if the story just wasn't that. I don't know. I don't know

910
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:32.400
what I expected. Maybe I just
wasn't like a huge fan. Yeah,

911
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:36.760
I think I was like five or
ten years older and I watched it.

912
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:37.599
I still don't think so, you
know, I don't know, because the

913
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:42.239
documentary is just there's just too tidbitty, you know. There's a bunch of

914
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:45.199
good tidbits, but there's no there's
no meat. Yeah. Yeah, I

915
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:51.400
would say two two and a half
it. Um. It was confusingly edited

916
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:55.039
at times because the animation was just
unbearable. Yeah, the animation. The

917
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:59.519
animation was funny, like that of
South Park or something. I don't know,

918
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:02.599
it just be it was just weird. It had an odd tone versus

919
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:06.719
the rest of it, like an
almost like an archie or something. I

920
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:10.800
don't even know, but um,
like they would be a scene that you

921
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:16.760
think is going somewhere there. There's
part of the conversation with Nitro about steroids

922
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:22.119
is in the first episode or the
second episode something like that. I think

923
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:24.639
that the first episode was a pilot. Yeah, it says something about a

924
00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:28.000
pilot. Yeah, it wasn't even
the it was called the pilot. I

925
00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:30.519
yeah, which maybe had two meanings, right, Maybe they talked about the

926
00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:35.480
pilot American Gladiator and it's the pilot
for the documentary potentially, Yeah, because

927
00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:38.119
it's a little bit of an overview
of everything, and so some of this

928
00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:42.039
stuff you've seen before. By the
time it really comes around. When they

929
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:45.199
filmed, they said they filmed the
pilot and then it was so terrible.

930
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:47.599
They turned into a Sizzle Reel,
and even though that's not what the studio

931
00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:52.960
wanted, they sent them to Sizzle
Reel to try and sell the show because

932
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.480
the other show was so bad and
it just happened to work out. And

933
00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:58.039
then when they actually made it,
yeah, it's not even looking like every

934
00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:00.760
game's different. Yeah, they just
didn't use any ship and it was dangerous

935
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:07.880
as fuck. Yeah. Yeah.
So anyway, if you were into it

936
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:09.760
back then, you might get it, and it's just kind of something weird

937
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:13.599
to be into though. It is. We had real sports going on at

938
00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:16.360
that time. Sports were bigger than
ever. You got Jerry fucking Rice running

939
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:21.079
around. Yeah, I'm watching that, yeah, Michael Jordan's yeah, yeah,

940
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:23.159
yeah, he had real sugar.
Ja's literally going crazy. Barry Sanders

941
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:25.440
like, yeah, it was an
epic era was Can Saco and then we're

942
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:29.519
hitting bombs. Yeah, it's going
crazy. Back in the seventies two,

943
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:35.920
there was a show called ABC rerunt
it called Superstars that was basically like athletes

944
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:40.039
and celebrities competing together on teams.
So it was like, you know,

945
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:45.079
they weren't It wasn't athletes versus celebrities. It was like mix celebrities and and

946
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:49.800
you know actors and nobody's and whatever, anybody they could get to do this

947
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:53.280
show. It also seemed kind of
dangerous, but like had had some very

948
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:58.519
top athletes on, you know people
and that, and it was the sort

949
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:00.199
of the same era as the beginning
of World Strongest Man. Yeah, I

950
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:02.440
was gonna say a strong man literally, is that right? Yeah, it's

951
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:05.960
essentially the same kind of thing that
strong Man is what we need back.

952
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:10.239
The Strongman now are great, but
we just need the random people doing random

953
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:14.480
shit. Well what was that that
show that those guys all did together?

954
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:16.639
Yeah, I never watched it on
History Channel. Yeah, that show's fucking

955
00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:19.800
awesome. Yeah, I know,
I know, I want more of that.

956
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.079
Yeah. I heard a lot of
travel to do all those like like

957
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:25.000
those leg Cherry Channel challenges. Yeah, yeah, I heard it was it

958
00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:29.199
was good and it seemed to be
successful. Rob Orburst. Yeah, it's

959
00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:34.480
Rob and uh Nick Best Best Nick
Best and the what's his name? The

960
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.440
main like the big tall guy Brian
show. Yeah, and they're travel around

961
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.360
and it was a fucking that that
is awesome show. Smart. They only

962
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:43.840
did that a couple of seasons.
Like that show was sick that's smart.

963
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:46.159
Yeah, history channel might just be
you know, it's cool because you like,

964
00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:49.719
that's a half I think that's a
half appeal for me at least with

965
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:52.400
strong Man is the history side of
it, right, Like the stone that's

966
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.320
in front of the one bar that
everybody like, it's like a feat of

967
00:57:55.320 --> 00:58:00.199
strength if you lifted up onto the
you know, the railing of the stat

968
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:02.039
or whatever. Again, this is
always there, you know, and it's

969
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:05.199
like that kind of sh It's cool
to me. Yeah, I agree.

970
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:09.400
So actually, getting back real quickly
to magazine Dreams that Michael Hearne is in.

971
00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:14.679
The reason it keeps not coming out
is that this main star of that

972
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:22.880
is Jonathan Majors. Who's that Jonathan
Majors is King the Conqueror. He was

973
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:25.159
and he was the opponent in Creed
three. Yeah, yeah, that's some

974
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:30.440
allegations. Yes, yeah, domestic, Yeah, battery. Interesting, they

975
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:31.280
always come for you, They wait
for you to get up there, and

976
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:35.280
they started trying to come for you. Doesn't matter then you have to be

977
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:39.280
true. Yeah, that's the um. That's the attack that his attorneys are

978
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:43.800
taking with the actual story is like
after that happened, a bunch of people

979
00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:45.639
came out and said, yeah,
I was on a show with him,

980
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:49.639
he was a dick, but I'm
being a dick and also or totally different

981
00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:52.280
than story though. Yeah, no, no it doesn't. It should always

982
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:53.840
just be nice to people, as
I always the answer. It's just like

983
00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:58.719
even you shouldn't do bad shit,
but also just be nice to people.

984
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:00.519
Yeah, it's easy in case you
used to be a shitty person, they

985
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:02.519
can't say about that about you now. True, you can change, you

986
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:06.360
can. Actually, that's a really
good question to understand that. Why that's

987
00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:09.039
the case. Why people decide that
it's okay to be a shitty person.

988
00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:13.559
I don't think they mean to or
No, people just aren't stelf aware enough

989
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:16.000
to know that how they speak to
others. Well, you turn around and

990
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:20.800
and there's nobody around you about made
a good clue, Yeah, but double

991
00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:22.679
just blame others. Yeah, No
one's going out of their way saying I'm

992
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:25.559
gonna be a dick today. No
one wakes up like that buying those actors

993
00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:30.679
do, maybe, but I think
they they're just like they're just like peaked

994
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:31.960
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