Muscles and Mayhem – Unauthorized American Gladiators documentary series : A 50% Facts review?

0:08 Before we get entirely started. Does anybody have a It's it's early days and this week it's only Monday, but um, any roses or thorns in your life this week? A man, it's a little early, early in the morning and early in the week. I would say, I just I don't know, I was. I'm having a little bit of a hard time not eating like an asshole this uh this past weekend. Yeah, holidaying is so good, and then this weekend I kind of just like it takes one bad and the ordered to kind of start fucking off. Yeah, holidays will get dressed. And also my patience has been a little off. I think that's correlated to the bad, bad eating habits. So I gotta turn that around. That's hard. Fourth amorrow, Yeah, you got little ones. It's I couldn't do it with little ones. I don't think. I don't know how I'll do that. It's tough, but you know, I'm gonna.

0:57 Yeah, I'm going to the rodeo tonight. Fulsome d nice. That's probably the last real Fourth of July I've done, and I was probably twelve years ago, but the Fulsome Rodeo is pretty sick. Yeah, I'm gonna go to night and then we have a big fireworks show in my neighborhood. They do like a whole like highroad, like legit one, and then the state Fair starts. It's summertime. When was the last time he went to the State Fair? Legitimately, I would say probably for me about the same. Yeah, I'll go this year for sure. I know some of the team hasn't gone, so I think we're gonna go. The grandkids were here last year for it, so we went. We took them. We're there for a couple of hours. You're done. That's all you need. It's all you need. I like going to the inside exhibits now, like the art exhibits that they have now, and like I'm going for the concerts. You see that lineup? No, who's there? Boys to men? I think genuine like it's a hit or line though for free? Damn, Well you gotta pay that ticket to get in. Yeah I got a free bee?

1:47 Oh never mind, Yeah, Mom, taste oil there she does the oil CoA. Should we get some freebees? Not like motor oil. I didn't realize how, although some of it's probably pretty close. I just watched this is so weird. I just watched the worst movie ever, Monster Trucks. Oh, I'm not seen. It was in the theater like three years ago. It's now on Netflix. Like a cartoon. It's like half cartoon. This alien like drives a truck or something, but this motherfucker lives off a motor oil. Okay, I don't even heard of that. Yeah, if you watch it, if you saw the poster, you did, Okay, because I didn't really hear about it either. And then I remember seeing the poster randomly's trash movie. But yeah, olive oil. I didn't realize how corrupt the olive oil industry was. It's pretty bad with all the cut market, with all the cutting though of the product, like and how the mafia basically runs the entire olive oil maybe even worst. Like a lot of it's just like ransid and bad, that's what I'm saying. A lot of it's like cut garbage, Like a lot of like the stuff you buy on the store garbage is like cut with other oils and you don't even know it.

2:49 Says olive oil because it has the appropriate percentage to call it that, but it's like actually just cut up. It's like bad cocaine. It's all cut up with baking soda. So olive oil distributors are kind of like drug deal. Yes, it's crazy, it's cheap and a lot fentanyl. It's like literally, there's a whole documentary and I was like, it's mind blowing. Yeah, I gotta I don't know where it's out. I gotta fine. I think it's Hulu. Yeah, find me the documentary. Yeah, it's nuts. Yeah, Mom's been. She's the one that like verifies that your ship's good or not. And then she'll also do which is like her panel, and then on the side they'll do like more like best beer of the Year type stuff, and they'll tell you if your ship's actually taste good, ones just to say like is a fucking rancid, and ones to like give you a real thing. But she's been doing that like fifteen years now.

3:34 That's awesome. She's like, what's they call it, Sevanner? Yeah for yeah, for the stuff, and it's all like the same crowd. Like she doesn't do it, but like everyone she does olive oil with also does like wine, or they also do like chocolate, or they also do some of their fancy shit. That's why you see a lot of these like micro um wineries are also starting to do olive oil now because of like what the main commercial product has become. People are now going to these like micro places within that the birth they're getting it's like actually olive oil. Ye, get some taste of it. So yeah, I'm going to a Giant's game today. That's kind of my my rose on the week. Hopefully will not have any thorns. Yeah, and you get the heat. Yeah, sixty five it's the high in San Francisco today. What a shame. Yeah, that crazies an hour away just over not students, just not that much closer to the water. Yeah. Yeah. But my my rosen Thorne for last week was I bought. I've already told Mike the story. I bought the original UH stereo receiver that I bought with my high school graduation money. I bought another one because it had been the one. I had the one for years and years and it was and then I stopped using it because it had a home theater thing. And then I brought it in here when st was here and it was probably nine ten years that it was the it was the main stereo. So anyway, I wanted another one, so I bought it, it came in and it was broken. Oh no, so I had to take it into to get it fixed, And um, where do you take something like that? Here? Paradigm? Where's that sounds? Maybe I'm thinking

5:06 of the driver from Callaway. They called Paradigm Paradigm. The only way I know it is because like they ran hell a radio commercial. Yeah, they used to it because they were the ship for like high end audio stuff. And now they got the two twelves in the back. Okay, Now they have a huge like service department thing and they do a lot of like vintage restoration stuff. And the guy's like, yeah, the like for music. This is the best amplifier anybody ever made, just in a in a in a consumer stereo. This is just just is the best. But a lot of people are buying stuff old and coming in to have it entirely refurbished.

5:46 That waiting list is like four or five months long. Wow, because there's only so many people are Yeah, mine parts or the parts. You gotta wait weeks for the parts. Minus was simple that hopefully that I should have it back in a couple of weeks. So you gotta meet up Smike. Nothing chilling, grinding, I try to stay that neutral. You know, it's probably not good. We even talked about it in a video, like it's better I think if you can like celebrate your small winds and shit, I'm just so bad at it. You gotta get better at that. Yeah, because part of my ship too, is like the patience. I think I'm getting better at, but then I'm just always on it, like all right, let's just keep moving forward, you know, the good things, the litteral off my back, bad things, I think, I think in order for me not to get pissed off and bad things, I also neutralizes my superpower to enjoy good things. Yeah. I like sometimes getting kicked in the teeth with some bad decision and business or something, because it makes me like fired up again. Yeah, animates you like yeah, yeah yeah, And you're like all right, well I have to keep going, like yeah, I have no other option. Now. We're like yeah, if you're so, I think I do that now decent with the bad. But then I also do it with the good and just like all right, that was fine, keep moving, that was fine, Keep moving. I don't have any expectation that things will be good, so when they're good, I'm really happy. Yeah, it's one way. Yeah exactly. Uh so American Gladia, steroid muscles and mayhem the house. I didn't know where. I didn't know where this was going to go. I don't know where it went.

7:18 Yeah, that's fair too, Like I don't know what the whole point of this was. No, well, yeah, why did this story come up out of nowhere? It's anniversary or something. Um, there is a thirty for thirty that we did not watch that came out in April, okay, and probably they knew that was being done, and so they're capitalizing on it with this that there were so many of the original gladiators involved and the producers and stuff. Yeah, this one happens having everybody, even like the guy that was like defending it, the main show runner. Yeah, he was kind of counter contradicting what they were saying or yeah direct no, yeah, whatever, he was. There's all three, they're all there's some weirdrn weirdo guys. The other guy that's the funniest characterize. That guy's crazy. He's wild, clearly wild. That guy's wild. And then yeah, the other I guess he's the director, right, I think the director. And then you're talking about maybe more the producer, like the creative guy. That guy's kind of like stern and weird too, he's kind of a dick. And they would go on this tangent about how like this like they all wanted money from the merchandise, and he'd be like, there was no money from merchandise.

8:24 We don't know what they're talking there was, yeah, or yeah, is he's playing a forty year old stick lying stick? I think he was just like sticking his story. Yeah, yeah, that's that's his story. Yeah. His story was like, no, merchandise isn't selling that good. The only people buying the merchandise are just who they're seeing in person. Like, there's just no way that works. Now. I remember that game being popular young. I remember the commercials and shit, yeah, yeah, that ship was huge. Um, I had really not watched that many episodes of American Gladiators. I mean, so I watched it, but I didn't know it was that because you know perspective, right, it would stopped the ninety six I'm fucking eight. Yeah, it was hard to catch it. Yeah, and then I probably watched reruns until like two thousand or something. Who knows what I watched, but yeah, I can't tell the impact it has on the world when you're eight, you know, I mean, you don't know the cultural volume. Well obviously I was older than that, but like, um, you know, my kids were young and and Sam, you guys know Sam, Like we didn't let him watch anything that looked like fighting on TV because it wouldn't necessarily mean that he would smack the shit out somebody, although that was a thing that happened, ye, but it would affect his sleep so much you're riled up. Yeah, he would, like you know, he would act things out in his sleep, yea. Yeah.

9:43 If Rock catches like some UFC like on, he'll start like punching me and trying to kick me and say like, okay, maybe we shouldn't turn that off. Yeah. Yeah, so that way. So I hadn't really seen that much of it, but I didn't realize that the cultural impact it seems very tied to the popularity of BWF WWE. Yeah, and the NFL. It was like the Golden eraw, the fucking hard hits in the NFL, and the baseball like the Juice the Juice era, and then uh, what was the Nickelodeon version of this? Do you watch that, Oh my god, not a legend of the Hidden Temple, No, but similar. That's kind of in the vein too, right, Like at the end they run that obstacle course, but there's another one. What was on with the tower where they had to climb up? Yeah, that one isn't that wasn't that.

10:24 That wasn't that. No, but there's two notes you're talking about them. They had to run up that tower and grads blowing the glowing like yeah, crystal, Yeah, that had to be. That's got to be the kids American Glad of the Right has it. Some of those games were dope. That show was awesome. They had a basketball hoop three sixty, no backboard hanging in the middle. They had a bungee cord on their back and they're up these stairs and you lead it off like eight stairs with the ball and then made contact with whoever the fucks around you and try to dunk this ball. Guts, gut, guts is good, dude. I got a YouTube, guts because I have YouTube Legends of the Hidden Temple. Temple's get some of those questions they were asking those kids were because it was like a you had to answer questions those questions are fucking hard. I'm like, I don't know what any of these answers. Yeah. I saw a clip from Speaking of This Era. Uh, we're in the world as Carmen san Diego with the group that sang the Acabella group that sang Rockabella, that's on the nose. Probably like nightmares about Carmen San Diego when I was a kid, I'd have like reoccurring dreams of like her. Yeah, weird. Where did that start? A video game? Right? Yeah, it was a PC PC game that's crazy, and then and then TV and then Guts was so good. I wish my parents would have had me try out for that.

11:33 What a ship on the now? Was everybody every kid's dreams wanting to be on Guts or fucking uh? What was the other one with the slime? Yeah? The game show? Yeah, I don't know, double there, so yeah, I think it was Double Thing. So I think it was double And there was a one game where the kids were like inventors and they'd have like a child inventor come on and they had to guess what the kids invention was. Yeah that might be yeah, yeah, that's the same show too. It might have been a segment of the same show, but I do remember that and all the panel the players were all like Disney stars or Nickelodeon stars. Ye show. It was like their version of Family Feud kinda yeah, and they had to remember what was kind of the era game show. I feel like, yeah, like those were all like mini ramps and they're all like good, good good. And then I remember talking about cultural impact. I remember Who Wants to Be a Millionaire came out and that ship was everywhere, like McDonald's is doing promos for it like that, talk about cultural impact. It was what's his name? Fucking regious filming like that.

12:28 I remember being like a million dollars holy fuck. Yeah, and the questions were hard. They had video games for it. Everybody tuned in trying to see if they how far they would go. Yeah. I remember their family crazy. Yeah, you know what it fucked up? Game show would have been Family Freud. Yeah, let's get to your deep seated anxieties. God's by your mother, who was right here, standing right here, ran by doctor. Yeah, the fake fake doctor, foot doctor whatever fuck is fake a doctor of any kind? I thought he's like a foot doctor name every other carnivore on the planet. Yeah, his first name was doctor. His given name is done. Yeah, the whole thing should do. That changed my government name to doc. For some reason, we called my grandpa Doc.

13:15 That was his nickname, Grandpa Doc. Interesting new as a truck driver. Well then you got like you got like Doc from Back to the Future. Right, he wasn't a doctor. He's a scientist, but he could have had a PhD. Right maybe maybe I think they's called him Doc. He could. It's just been insane. Yeah, he was insane. Yeah. But the thing I remember the most is like as a child, I have like if I think about, like my memories of American Gladiator as a child, was the the tennis ball game them hiding it time with the tennis ball. I remember, like when I first saw that as a kid, Like that burning in my memory of like that is American Gladiator. There's is the tennis ball one. There's a couple of games that are so good and they talk about that in the first episode. This is another one, at least to me, where like the show probably should have been three episodes, not four or five. Most dude, out of the five was a grind, but like three got good. I think three got good because of the steroids. Yeah, and but then like the rest of it's whatever. Like the first one's really good because you're like, dude, this is just a circus. And then the second when you see the success and then you start to see this downfall of steroids, and then yeah, it just kind of goes off. The fourth and fifth were just over filled with Bullshita done.

14:18 Yeah, and they even knew it, Like the interview was bullshit. They're like, yeah, I didn't go to that. Yeah, I didn't want to be a part of that. Like they're just mentioning projects that they didn't want to be a part of anymore. Yeah. The whole they spent like forty five minutes on just talking about them, like coming back and like doing other things, like we don't care what they were doing outside. I don't care if you're doing. Yeah, do you ever rub elbows with any of those guys, Because I know Nitro was big in the CrossFit games, not the games themselves, but he was big in acrossfit First. I don't think so, And if I did, I didn't know who he was at the time. Yeah, but there's a chance because I happened many times. We're like going back to like somebody I met at like the Games and I was like, oh shit, that was I don't know if it was someone else introduced me to them, and I'm like, oh, yeah, it's nice. I know his buddies with Jen, who's obviously American Gladiator shout out the Phoenix Gladiator and they worked out together at a CrossFit gym and wherever studio city that I've been to, um and I just know, yeah, he was dabbling pretty hard in the CrossFit space. Our connection to the most recent the reboot from two thousand and eight is that we've all met Michael Hern yeah two eight, and we all know Jenn Weeederstrom. Most of my like people that I met that from something I watched my entire life growing up through CrossFit was which is similar to the America Gladiator is the challenge like people. Yeah yeah, Kenny Bananas, Kenny and all those other DRAMs. Yeah yeah, those are all the homies. I met all of them in the person that was for me was like, oh shit, like I watched you growing up, Like how weird is that? How much like reality TV swooped into our world?

15:43 Yeah? Yeah, Kenny, Kenny, Kenny, He's a buddy of I'm like, yeah, first time I met Kenny too, I'm like, what is this motherfucker doing over here? Yeah? Where I was at like a fit the fit ad parties where iould mostly met all these because they're all because Kenny was really involved with fit A and still is. But he would bring all his challenge, the challenge by this to these big, huge Fit A part because they were in LA. Yeah, so it was like literally in LA Reality TV Star Reunion reunion at all these fit ad parties, at these like awesome event It was fine. It was good times. Yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, I mean that era of CrossFit. Obviously CrossFit's still doing fine and they'll probably sell out their bullshit, but like that era was kind of the middle ground of like underground CrossFit and now Rebuk's name on it and Rebuck was doing well, so it did have some like celebrity It's never been the same. Yeah, it had like celebrity power behind it in a sense. It was sick sixteen years yeah, yep. Yeah, at least two thousand and seven was the first games. Yeah, but it had been going on I think since two thousand and three or four, I mean even two thousand and seven will make it. Yeah a long time. Yeah, that's sixteen. That's when I graduate high school. Yeah, a long time, Kenny sand Tug. The challenge had to be I mean they named a couple of shows, but so many shows had to be mimicked after this because they were doing like balls in. They call it on the Challenge, the balls in where they have to take that ball and put it into that like someone's like blocking. It's the exact same game. In my high school, we had a we called it like a pe room. It was just like a It was kind of like a physical education room where the ground was all lightly padded like gymnastics. It was more of a gymnastics room. We had a rock climbing wall, and then we had these um foam barrels that

17:18 you would imagine kind of like a rodeo type thing. And so they're all colored red, white, green, whatever, and it's a foam, but it's pretty thick and it's pretty big, the size of like a large trash can. And o. My mentor was my basketball coach and my pe teacher, and he would have us play that sometimes. So we had these like dodgeballs and he set it on the either side of the room and just no rules, Just put that ball in that fucking cup over there. That was like when I was younger, we had like a church group. Yeah when I when I was going, like my mom was really into church and U israelly into church still and stuff. But I would go to like the youth groups on like Friday or whatever, and like they would have like just it was. It was awesome because it was like literally it was inside basketball, right, that's when you don't really have access to like the Jim style basketball.

18:00 It comes off the ceiling. Dodgeball. It was like it was a good it was a great time. Yeah, right, really good way to get kids into it, you know whatever. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I remember the dodgeball. It was a kind of gladiator esque, you know, like they had like the jousting, like the big paths. I feel like I feel like you could make you know how those trampoline places went crazy, Like, I feel like you could make a place that's American Gladiator. I'm probably good figure started. Yeah, you figure or at any point along the way, you just still don't have it on dirt. But a lot of the safety comes with having one hundred and sixty pound man running out a two hundred and fifty pound man. Yeah, you know what I mean. If they're a bunch of eight year olds, Yeah, you're gonna twist an ankle, but no one's gonna die. Yeah, you know, they they they built a recipe for disaster when you have a dude who played in the NFL going against a thirty year old fucking truck driver, Like, that guy's gonna get fucking murdered. Of course, that's like a duh.

18:55 I'm shocked they put Malibu on the cover because he was such a pussy. Uh. Is that the guy that got ye kind of early? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, he's on the cover of the whole show. He is really jacked though he looks cool, but he was like barely on. Yeah. It is funny how they like talk about him too, like he was kind of the one that didn't fit in, Like, yeah, I saw his eyes shuddering. I knew that fool couldn't take a hit. Yeah. He was there for half the first season, the seven seasons. Good at racketball or something. Yeah, he's a racketball player. Yeah. I guess you just took him because he looked pretty and he had all that hair, Like I said, like fair a faucet here, but like here was twenty years old at that point, right or ten years old years old. There's probably people in the second Gladiator that we know too, I bet maybe so I didn't recognize any when I when I scrolled through it, but that's crazy.

19:42 Yeah. Yeah, And they briefly breezed over the fact that the Gladiator, like UK version was like massive success, way bigger than the US. Where's the documentary on that? That an episode on that instead of all the other stuff that they spent an episode time on. Gina Corno. Gina Corno, Yeah, that's that's the one. Yeah, I didn't know. I wonder if you got her start there. Jamie Reid, I don't know if I know who that is, probably Jamie Reid Kovac as American actress. But what do we think the point of this documentary was? Is it like a steroid awareness as a business? I mean, I think number one. I think it's an nostalgia trip. Yeah. And the same way you know that I rebought the stereo, I mean in an Installgia point in my life friends, this moment um. Yeah, I wish I bought that in the nineties now anyway, the nineties what's nineties now is probably yeah, exactly. Um, And I think the second part of it really was the steroid thing.

20:38 I mean part of it. There are some scenes in this that are the same footage that's in Bigger, Stronger, Faster, and so it's in a way it kind of plays as an indictment on that that view of of steroids, because Bigger, Stronger, Faster was made to um uh really normalized steroid use. I I mean, having been there and seen it going on, that's what I believe the agenda was, even though you know, Chris was like, oh, I have moral objections. It's like, no, you don't. I mean, I know he didn't, but he said it in the film, because you know, two more two more famous ones. I don't. I don't know if I think I met this dude he's in the reboot. Oh yeah, it's like around Wolf, I think. But then the other one is Tonaway Reid, who is uh Dwayne Johnson's cousin. Yeah, and it's stunt double and so I think Tonaway got to start there too.

21:30 Interesting. Yeah, and then that whole probably sparked the whole Titans thing for sure, yeah, for sure. Did you find it interesting that, you know, uh, Michael Hearne, who is you know, vigorously defending his natty's status for as long as I've known about that. He's friends with the producer. That's why is that what? I don't know that producer is so adamant. But the whole story is they didn't release the test. They take a test and then just tell the world they gave him a six week notice. Yeah, didn't release the test results, and yeah, I mean that, Yeah, that's a test for steroids with every funny or let's just getting canceled right now. I mean that's where CrossFit up there, testing from well, the everybody else talking about how, yeah we maybe not have been taking tests we were taking like growth and h yeah. The ladies, Yeah, it's funny how the like not to be mean to anyone on that show.

22:18 They got interviewed, but like they have no clue what they're talking about. No, you know, they're like, yeah, well that's a synthetic hormone, So that's kind of a steroid said, you know, like steroid by definition is a synthetical hormone. She's like one of the girls like, well, I don't take testosterone, but I take HGH, which isn't and I'm like, yeah, that's all synthetic hormone is steroid. But you do have to test specifically for those things to to test, like right, like what were they actually only testing? Yeah, I think those tests HGH, because it's so variable in your own body, in your own day, is nearly impossible. Tests, super hard to test for. I think they've got more follicle maybe more stuff now than they did back then. For sure, it's just because they also didn't care. Yeah, no, they were trying to get the advertisers off their back. Yeah, for sure. They just need to make money. And seven eleven jumped in shout out to seven to eleven for promoting muscle growth. They seven eleven's always been in the culture, though somehow out for take care. They've always been in the culture. They just did a rebrand right now. Actually, I didn't like they're doing Nike s B collapse, you know, it's like, maybe, yeah, that's crazy. I had no idea they were doing that. Yeah. No, they are kind of tapped in for some reason. It's a slurpy era.

23:18 Dude, it's that snaledger, right, you fucking seven eleven. It's like a free slurpy day, right, Like it's the only thing that pisses me off about seven eleven is the variants in stores, Like you go to one in Sack and it just doesn't feel good, Like it feels kind of a franchise. Yeah, but you got I went to one in Vegas and it felt like a fucking Refreshment's mall. Like it felt amazing. Every don't go to then everything's nice. Still going to that seven eleven downtown day, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's the world's most dangerous seven eleven, I think correct. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If you can even make it into the door without getting robbed or stabbed or like there's always something sketch you going on out front? Oh no, I hate it doesn't Dan next story, Yeah, Dance Dance Company, it's next, or to that seven eleven downtown No, but uh the jay Lofts the Yeah, it's right by the Jays. Yeah, he runs with the jay Loofts. Got it.

24:10 Yeah, it's bad. Yeah, seven eleven. For some reason, just California, I feel like so sketchy. Every other state up into Texas, whatever, they're all hell and ice circle K was really big here and does that exist anymore? I think it does. I think it does. Yeah, or they're like yeah, I don't know, I don't know. They have more yea slurpy time. I mean, we just need BUCkies, and I think they will change the whole state. You ever been to BUCkies? I've never been Bucky actually, I think I think I went once on like one of those fitness trips. Yeah, they have they have a small version too. They'll have like a seven eleven size, but the normal buck you can go to the big dog one, like the like the twenty thousand square one. Yeah, you need one hundred car wash lane one that just feels so America like like they're they're a seven eleven that is more like a Walmart.

24:56 Uh but good but good. Yeah, all of its They like got good food and hot foods, Hella good. They have like twenty different flavors of their own almonds, Hella good. Bathrooms clean as shit. Immaculate. Is that what they probably themselves on all of it? Dude, is so immaculate. I remember hearing something about that. Like the buck He's like our number one priorities, Like the clean bat it's clean. It's one. You go to the gas station, they have a what is it called, like a stigma where the stigma I don't know how to talk. Um, it's early. Yeah, of like bad bathrooms and there are things like not arts. They're Ship's Christine. Yeah, it's pristine, the whole the whole operation. You eat one of their almonds off the toilet, probably if I got paid. Yeah, yeah, it feels like a big dare. It's clean enough, it's clean enough. Yeah, it's really it really is an immaculate it's a spot. I'm proud of it. Yeah, yeah, I don't know what the whole agenda here was. It was weird obviously, like those whoever is the producer and ship probably aren't getting a lot of gigs after this because they did look bad. Oh, the producers of Gladiators, they look bad because that first season, like how reckless it was, which is I guess a little bit of maybe why they're doing this to show how TV was still kind of the wild wild West. Then, right, like low budget, they're literally just shooting. That's like YouTube. Now YouTube is higher elevated than that is, right, like a mister Beast video is higher than that first season in terms of production. For sure, well thought out, like mister Beast is a genius. Um and then yeah, and then obviously the merchandise deal. They look hella bad and then they look like dis Yeah, for sure, I'm surprised they couldn't get all the Gladiators to say nah though,

26:30 Like it seemed like three of the four main did right, but a couple of them stuck around. Yeah. The other ones were just like they're the late add ons that were just happy to be there because they weren't doing anything. Yeah. Tower reminds me of like the brother from Everybody Loves Raymond. Yeah, Tower was still jacked. Yeah. Doesn't he look like that guy in the face it's a famous comedian Brad Yeah, Garrett, Yeah, it looks like that too on the steroids, the brothers, Yeah they um. Yeah. When we saw him in the last episode, he was he looks like he'd done a bodybuilding show. Was pretty. He's still running that Jew's heart. Yeah, and how typical he's just like selling cars. He just looks like a car salesman too. He looks like the most typical Dade. Literally my favorite character. And the whole thing is the guy who was like the most winning male detro no no competitor. Oh the guy who Yeah, they went cut him up and he ended up in Mexican jail though human because he did human trafficking for ten years. The kind of dropped. No, that was so smooth and so little. So this guy, this guy that was crazy. He's known in the American gladiator world as being a dirty player. Right, yeah, he's what he said. He's old reported and he kind of no they did too, right, They said he liked trying to make people bleed and he was dirty. And then for some reason, he talks about his steroid adventure going to Mexico, and then he talks about how much money he makes getting humans across the border, and they think he was more of a mule than Yeah, he wasn't like kidnapping people. He was yeah, yeah taking yeah, yeah he shows Yeah he was an illegal

28:00 shuttle yeah yeah, and then you know, illegal immigration. He was getting people from Mexico to the US. Yeah I misspoken. Yeah he wasn't. He wasn't robbing people. He was he was helping them. He was doing. Gods a lot of problems at the Mexican border with this group of people. Yeah, because then you got Nitro. Nitro with the gun, with that bullshit story about he was shooting with his friends, like there's no way around. He just carried a loaded gun with him. There's no way, right, because if you're shooting with your friends, you unload that bitch put in his case, that's what he just that was his story. Yeah, for sure, he just he just carries a gun. Well, he went to Mexico to do steroid deals, I mean just going to the light station though in buy steroids in Mexico. Yeah, you can't. I don't know that that's what he was doing though, That's what it sounded like. He said he went to Mexico to go buy it. Yeah, but he might have, like Jim said, like if he's lying about the gun, he might have also been he might have been bringing that back for Tower and Titan.

28:48 You know. Yeah, you're right, he probably was like stalking up. Yeah, he could have been, right, Yeah, yeah, that's fair. Who knows. It could have been personal use as well. But but I'm in at the same time too, like if you the you know nineties, if if he went to Mexico and actually went to a pharmacy, or a gas station or whatever and bought a bunch of stuff. Like how many people saw that? And it's like, oh, we can just like this guy's an easy markable does knock him off? And yeah and take this stuff for ourselves and even the cops, right, like what car? Like obviously they weren't making a shit ton of money, but that one tour they made whatever five g's a day or so five a week, you know, so like they're doing Okay, what kind of cars? You drive him by from Mexico to America with a load of glow? Right, it sounds like they were blowing that money. Yeah, yeah, like you're screaming buying a Corvette. Yeah, you're gonna catch some attention, right, he's not driving it. You know. I couldn't get like I couldn't under like one then that one lady says she was getting five hundred bucks a show. I bet you it was like that because like later on, like after the tour.

29:44 Yeah, I feel like they only really got paid during that tour. Yeah, or maybe if you were the guy like gem and I maybe got paid and the other ones didn't. You know, there's there's probably tons of the politics even going in there. They just signed these awful out the gate contracts that just took. It was like such a gamble contract for the production and the like producers like like, we're gonna take all the risk. You guys are gonna get this, and this is gonna be a lifetime deal because this thing can do be a total flop and down gets to anything. And then they just signed it because they got nothing else going on, and then it blows the fuck up. Yeah, and then they kind of don't really get anything else. Yeah. Most people don't realize that, Like, if you're going into a TV show before the network or whatever or streamer or whatever buys it, you're signing your contract for two or three years, you know, and sometimes longer than that. And Goldwin's like, we don't. We don't renegotiate. My dad didn't renegotiate, so I don't like that's why. Okay, well, your dad lived in a different time. This thing went way beyond where it was expected to go. And they don't admit to the amount of money they made off of it. Ever, no one knows how much money it really made. No, And that's that's true of of entertainment in general, though, like nobody knows how much really a movie clears or a TV show or whatever. Do you think this was made because maybe American Gladiator three point I was coming could be. It's not out of the realm of possibility. I don't know how it would do in this environment though. That's

31:15 actually a good question. I think I do, Okay, I mean the Titans game for a second, Rocks thing had a little momentum, did it. I think it did. I had a lot of washed that bodybuilder or power letters and crossfitters in it. Yeah. It had what's her name? Yeah, Charity want Charity and then also, uh what's her name? From Spiegel was the Spiegel on it? Two? Yeah? And then the other girl from Rockland CrossFit? Uh, what's her name? I know Spiegel was on it. The little gal she's big but little, big but little. I don't know the game's athlete. Anyway, she would did it. She's like really into like shoot, they're both into shooting now. Charity, yeah, Charity is for sure. But Danny Spiegel is still in the mix and CrossFit you know. Margo Margo Margo Yeah, yeah, no, is she whole thing too? Probably does think she was doing long drive. She might be. She might be because she's like really into like the shooting comps.

32:07 Yeah, yeah, that's so funny. But they're yeah, I mean they're all good athletes. They're probably better athletes than the randos on American Gladiator. That's true, you know what I mean? Yeah, for sure, I could. I don't know, man, I think it myself turning in every night to watch it. I mean I wouldn't either, But we're not like mainstream America. I used to love, Like whenever I used to see Ninja Warrior just on, I would throw that one or wipe out. You watch a season or two, wipe out. It's kind of funny at first. It is funny at first, it wears out quick. But if you get well, imagine you get like legitimate because social media is so big now. And that's what Titan Games did well, right, Like you cast people with the social media so you automatically get a little gig going. You could do that with American Gladiator. What if it's Sebum and Rush Swool fucking Bart Kwon they're the Gladiators, Like there, it's gonna give views, no if you get if you get the right people, it has to be celebrity based to work. I think this day Star. Yeah, yeah, that'd be harder.

32:58 That'd be harder for sure, unless there's some freak. Yeah, you get like a couple like x NFL guys pros versus Jos with a little bit of name behind him. Yeah, the pros versus Joe. How many times have they failed? Though? The pros vers shows was always last one season and they just dissolved. There was a literal show named pros Versus Joe's who remember that someone got almost killed. I don't remember that, but I did like the I like the concept. It was literal pros versus jokes, like you're playing basketball. It would be like me playing basketball against Terrell Owens. That's a great concept. They had guys like fucking think of like the best cornerback, yeah, or the best tight ends. I think to was on it right, Like they had legitimate athlete just a defensive tackle and then they have like some Joe catch a ball and they would just light him up when you guys died. Yeah, My assistant basketball coach was like in the last and he was a really good athlete. All state football basketball Nevada played quarterback d one Um almost played D one baseball after he had too many concussions from football, like really good athletes. Shout out Timmy, Timmy Sprinkles. What a name, Jimmy Sprinkles did one of my that's a real name, real name. One of my favorite humans all the time. Taught me so much in lives. Shout out Timmy. I think he was trying out for pros for shows and made like the last rank, but he'd like that, Like if he would have made it, he could have like hung you know what I mean, Like he was legitimate almost all American type. Some of these people got destroyed and then I think they had a canceler it. Yeah, you can't getting because they were got suited. It's about American gladiator, right, Like there's no way some of those athletes didn't get fucked up. Yeah, oh yeah, they only talked about the gladiators getting sucked up. What about the competitive day? I'm sure, Like how many blown out knees did

34:29 they have to show? I couldn't. I can't watch that. Yeah, I can't watch that. The track star right, yeah, yeah, she blew out aneth that looked really bad. You just see every time. You just know it because all that shitty turf with those shops. Oh my god. It's just like I feel it's risking to blow out. The reboot even had maybe bad more badasses, like like Jen was d one almost all American. I think track Gina Corno's obviously a freak. Yeah. If I'm a random lady, I'm not trying to fight either of them. Yeah. I think Jen snatched like two twenty five trying to with her the um Yeah. The Titan thing was I watched the first one, Like I watched that first season or at least like some of the episodes, you know, because I knew Charity from like the Arnold and Chip, so I was like, oh, I know this girl or I know Margot. I'll watch them compete.

35:13 Yeah. Yeah, the shows have like yeah, I don't think they have the lifespan. You're not gonna watch ten seasons of it because it gets old. But I think if you come with a little spice, they could you know what I mean, they could get a little Yeah maybe, but is uh Steve Austin still doing issue. Yeah, Steve Austin did one that was popular. Yeah, that was it. The Ranch yet out a bunch of Fitters too, that was like celebrity kind of base. Yeah, I think that's the kind of how you have to do it though, right, you do for sure, But but yeah, if you come with the I think American Gladio three point, I could have like a two season run. Yeah, if you're get me, Dope Gladiators and dope Contestant isn't how they do shows nowadays anyways. Most of the time it's like you signed a two US season deal. Yeah, there's no way. Common there's no way any game shows last in ten years anymore. You know, Like Who Wants to be a Millionaire's probably still out there new, but there's just no way people are watching it like they used to. Wheel of Fortunate still going feud Yeah, still good. Yeah, yeah, Jeopardy. But you'd does a good job of mixing in like normals, normies and celebrity families. It was funny how many, which I remember too, how many celebrity style stuff came into Gladiator, Like I remember the Family Matters episode. I don't know if you watched Family Matters like that, Oh you mean like them going on? Yeah?

36:23 Yeah, Rather like people said, dude, you're so big, we want to be part of the phenomena and built a whole episode around it. Now, you wonder how that they got hired for that. Did they go through like the Gladiator people and they just did it and then like, oh, yeah, we'll take care of his pay. I bet they were, or were they paying them? Like their crossovers. Yeah, they're probably both ran by WB or Universal or some shit, you know what I mean. So it's probably so easy their syndication, Yeah, or like I remember, is it Family Matters or Full House? One of them bitches went to Disney. But it was like I think already when Disney had bought ABC and they were ABC shows. So it's probably just so easy then, mightn't I have all been Goldwin? What was with that movie with Nitro when he cuts Gemini's throat with the debit card? That Dax But yeah, it was debit card was a thing back then. It was a gold amex. How wild that was insane? Was that what's her name seemed to have a little career? Like Jag was a real show? Is a zapp? Yeah to the Playboy, Yeah, Jack was such a real show that that, Uh, let's not ce science the other one, um Christ The NCIS. NCIS is a spinoff of Jack. Yeah, see like oh really yeah, and then she was in another movie or something. She seemed to like kind of build a career off of it. It's kind of weird that like Nitro in them couldn't like how they were getting like real roles. Yeah you know what I mean, our roles in movies. Yeah, you think they would be able to sneak in as like the Walmart Sylvester stallone because that era was like that. That's all it was your action, big big muscle action. The Nitro I was

37:54 okay at hosting. I don't think he was a good actor. Yeah, well what actual obviously I was still Yeah, yeah, it wasn't. Yeah, they did, like that one karate movie they were trying to show he was in that. They just all looked like straight to VHS type movies. Yeah, which who knows its probably there's a market for those, Like there's a there's studios that only make those because they know that they're going to squeeze out like a couple million bucks in profit every time. It doesn't matter. That was the Blumhouse model. Yeah, it just works. Yeah. The second pilot we shot to do reality TV H was with the guy that basically owned that world in red Box. So for the three four years that red Box was bopped in, yeah, they always had their own movies. He would make a he'd make a five, you know, fifty one hundred thousand dollars movie and then sell it for three hundred thousand and so the profits still there, and just do made a quick car. You do two movies a year, three four movies a year, you're interesting rather than yeah, trying to spend five millions. Some of those are kind of fun to watch.

38:44 Some are decent because they're so leasually literally light, and it's like ridiculous. You're like, oh, that was like so stupid. That was funny. And some of those have been the thing forever, right like the Hallmark movies or the Disney Channel movies like and and some of those, Yeah, they're they're not bad. And obviously now it's evolved where those are arguable just as good as movie theater movies. Right Like Netflix comes out with bangers sometimes everyone. HBO comes out with bangers sometimes more than anybody, right, and Netflix Original HBO comes with some hitters. I mean, those series are basically movies, right, like Game of Thrones, the fucking, fucking the movie we did, the Jordan movie that was supposed to be a Last Dance, No no, no, Last Air that was made for Amazon. Yeah, and it didn't and it was only going to go to stream. And then they side, oh the way, this is like good enough to put in the theaters. Ye. True. Then like obviously The Irishman, and then there's a lot of million, other million other ones, but hit, Yeah it was. Um it was a good little nostalgia because some of these are yeah, just pre what I'm about, same with He's the same with the Yeah Air right, like that happened like eighty five. I was born in eighty eight. It was like just before my recollection of this world. This kind of fitted nicely with like that Arnold doc a lot. It kind of just like Arnold Duck was. Yeah it's fair, Ye, it's fair. Also like I think The sweet Spot is definitely three episodes for sure, Like all these producers need to realize like trying to stretch it out over five like you're I didn't like once I saw it was five, I was like, oh fuck, like I'm gonna have to grind. There were just making like an

40:14 hour and a half actual doc. Yeah, one deal Yeah, I don't know why I think this story. Actually, maybe it's just because I'm immune to arnold story because I've heard it a million times. But this story had a lot of potential. Did I don't think they did enough with it? Yeah, they did it fine, They didn't. Yeah, they harped on the Yeah, how do we not dig more into this motherfucker getting jail time in Mexico? How do we not hear more about the party in the cocaine and the Yeah. Yeah, they just kept showing fucking Nitro showing ass on the bus. They're like, yeah, we were going to see that him in at I saw more dude ass in this film that I've seen in my whole life, more dudes crying than women crying, and they're literally all banging each other. Nitro Nitro story. They tried to evolve a little bit with this mom and dad, you know, but like that's like the only one I felt like they tried to get emotional with a little bit. What was the white guy's name, not Nitro, Laser, Titan, Laser, Laser, Laser, we saw lasers ass a lot laser. That's man ass.

41:07 Who was the guy with the beard that was the longest remember, Yeah, like the gray Beard, he cried a lot, he cried a lot. That wasn't laser. Oh that might have been laser. Maybe it was. I think those lasers who at the ends like yeah, I'm still friends with everybody and shit, yeah, I think that was laser. I think that was laser. All the girls were lesbians, except they weren't out yet except Zap. Two of them were. That's why. Man, there was only but there was only what three girls there were? There were probably more than they were play more than yeah. Yeah, but in the beginning there's yea three three blond girl look the same. I do wonder if you know they were the first evolution of the muscle mommy and and I'm for it, Oh for sure, and I'm all for it. Those they looked good. I like a little good they looked I was yeah, no complaints. Yeah, the one they spent way too much time on that story with like her stealing that chick that they all wanted to bang. Yeah. Yeah, they're just trying to add some cod comedy. Yeah that was kind of It was funny.

42:05 That was funny, But it looked like, um, something that would happen in a group of people that age at that time for sure. Yeah, I wonder how twenty six just whiling out. I think that like the biggest mistake that happens to all these people, um in, anybody that gets a whole lot of fame kind of on the quickly side and it has access to money, is that they feel like that they have to party all the time. Yeah, they didn't really dive into the drugs as much like they sprinkled over it, you know, but they kept like he sits down, he said, if I'm snorting a lot, does anyone have cocaine? Like that was like the first thing Nitro says the interview, you know, so like clearly there's like Hollywood esque things going on. And they mentioned like oh, party on the bus. But then all they show is like obviously I don't want to need visuals of them snorting lines, but like gem and I was like, yeah, we're having some beers. I'm like, no, like, motherfucker's getting dirty, Like oh yeah, well even Nitros about yeah, they were just doing all kinds of drugs, excess cocaine. Yeah, but they did that. Like those portions of the show I felt were so casual and the other one's like, yeah, I was so beat up.

43:05 I was addicted to pain meds and then they moved on addicted to morphine. Yeah, and then they moved on. She was injecting morphine into her muscle soreness and then eventually started mainveining it. Yeah, like she had glossed over that. Yes, it's really quick feel her body. Yeah, she was just fucking addicted to morphine, which is a synthetic carowin. Yeah. Yeah, it was wild. I feel like that you could take two or three of these people and you could write a script around it, and you could make it not be you know, exactly American gladiators, and you could make a movie that would work like like The Wrestler. Yeah, yeah, like a wrestler vibe. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, you just followed and watched that movie that was so good as recently again, I'm like, fuck, I forgot how good this movie wise, it's really good. The crazy thing about that is that it started out as the same script as The Black Swan, the Natalie Portman movie. Yeah, I've seen that. Yeah, it was started out as the same movie. And because the characters are very similar in terms of their their journey, one of them is having a real journey and the other one is having a mental journey. Yeah, and and but they're both trying to redeem themselves, you know, try to try to to create fame for themselves when they they feel like they have failed in the past. Interesting. Yeah, interesting how they two for one two for one. Yeah. Yeah, movie, I just waited shot. It's just gritty. Yeah, it's just like, man, they just don't make movies like that. Everything now is just so polished and such shitty. Yeah, a lot of attitude. I agree. Um, anybody, I said,

44:35 my favorite character, and you guys have favorite characters. The whole thing. Probably the director the guy, Yeah, he's talking about like Davy. Yeah, and he's talking about like Dayton home Girl, and she's like, what, we like sat next to each other once and then and then they bring up the one girl went to Playboy. He's like, I'm a fan of that material or something that's a fan of that material. Had that huge porn collection. Yeah, he said, I'm a large fan of that type of material. And and he just looks like a pervert. Yeah, Like he just looks like the grimiest Yeah. And his wife Throll was porn in the pool. Yeah, he was funny. He was kind of funny. Clearly you have porn addict. Yeah, and yeah I fell in love with Zapp or whatever her name is, definitely through the through the episodes, I fell in love. But she was incredibly well preserved. Some of them looked like hard Oh yeah, yeah, she looked all right. Yeah, it was just most of the women looked okay, but better than the dudes. A couple of their voices got a little you know you they kept in shay they did, that's for sure. They didn't like, you know, go the opposite act like most athletes are steroid. They just tryding to just kind of the guys. You know, Gemini is not young, and he looked pretty good. Laser looked big, good, look decent. Towers obviously like Jack Jack, but the other ones looked pretty decent. Michael Hern's obviously Jack this fuck still. That's why I thought, because agewise, Michael Horn kind of lines up. He's got to be mid fifties, right, Yeah, yeah, I thought Michael Horn. Because Jen's only a little bit older than me.

45:51 I think that Mike kind of missed his slot. Yeah, he's in between the Yeah, he's just in between he might have been just too young. But my point from earlier was that he took the or they gave him the name of the guy that was booted off the show in the first round for steroid, Yeah for Royd rageh oh that he says he never took anything. And and this is just one hundred from the from purely view, that guy actually did look the most natural because he just held more body fat. So it's a little bit more market tell um, but the original Titan of the group, original Titan, mister it looked the most natural out of that group. And he was black. Yeah yeah, yeah, he just and he did hold a little more body fat, but he just looked like the NFL cat that, yeah he was. He also didn't know he was very tall. Yeah no, yeah, he looked like a yeah, yeah, I wears Michael Herness, what's six two issues. Yeah, he's he looks to at least video. He's a big dude. Yeah, I'm like, I think I met him once. I thought that maybe Sprinkle in at least the the second version. The second version was popular too. I think that there were maybe thinking sequel. I don't, yeah, I hope not, but you know what, I mean, they could have they could have mentioned it, And because I think actually the success of the Gladiators from the reboot, their career success was bigger than these ones. I think that probably.

47:10 Yeah, like Michael Hearns obviously internet help. Did you do Hercules? Yeah? Yeah, he did a Hercules for sure. That's what I think I was thinking about. He was like a big he had a big role. He's had a couple of Disney Channel roles. His social media is obviously big gen obviously being a trainer on the Biggest Loser Gina Corno and Fast and Furious plus r MMA career, Tonaway read Tonaways fucking in every movie the Rocks ever been in, you know, like they're legitimate. They're legitimate Hollywood people. Where where they mentioned it at the end here that if social media was a thing, these Gladiators might have had a different path to which yeah, bigger, Yeah for sure with the looks and you know, it was really sad when they started doing the like Nights at the Roundtable like live show. Yeah, that was that is sad. When they talked about that Orlando of all places, medieval times, yeah, medieval times. Yeah, cable guy, have your your fried chicken. Yeah, and just watched them kind of prance around. Yeah, that is pretty sad competing against the same people night after night after night. It's the Globetrotters. Yeah, it literally was. Yeah, it literally was. Yeah, that is a little where's the Globetrotters doc?

48:13 I think there is. Probably there's gotta be a good one, dude, Like the original story of it's probably good. Now we all know what it is, but I bet you in the seventies, eighties, and nineties will be very similar to this, probably, I mean it's it. It's cultural impact might even be bigger, right because it bled into like the and One tour. We didn't do a video on that, did we? Because the and one documentary is actually really good? Oh yeah we watched. I watched. I think you and I talked about it, but I think we did. We haven't talked about it that. The impact of that is so great and the lifespans even shorter than anything else, you know. Yeah, that was a really big for really like seven eight mins literally just when we were in high school. Yeah yeah, like the shoe obviously short lived but big impact, and the tour itself, the street ball life was was short lived. But high impact, trying to like you go to Mervin's and you could find like a dope and worn shirt, you know in the shorts went down the side. Yeah, it was like for the people. Yeah.

49:10 Michael Hearne was also in the reboot of night Rider? Nice? Was he the main guy? Was he? Is that Nick Cage? No? Night Rider was the guy? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh yeah right yeah yeah, Um what's his name? Hassle Off has Off? Remember he was all dropped off or he was drunk eating that burger over that video. Yeah, yeah, hammer He's just like yeah, all high so funny. So Michael hern is also in this movie, this upcoming movie, Magazine Dreams. What's that about? It's a black amateur bodybuilder struggles to find human connection in this exploration of celebrity and violence. I've heard it's supposed to be pretty good, but it's not out yet. Interesting. Uh, I guess we should rate this motherfucker. Yeah. Um, I'm struggling to find a good non steroid based Yeah, we do syringes for sure. Syringes, Okay, let's do syringes. Jousting sticks yeah yeah, the sticks good too, rip knees, huge old sticks to our knees, fake tits. Yeah, it was so nineties. It was oh yeah, they had the pecks with the tennis ball tits. Yeah. Yeah. The girl even said that, is that one of the tennis balls from the game? Yeah, put under your skin? Yeah, I wonder how bad that gun hurts because those were tennis balls. Rights pretty Yeah, it's not like that probably would have let yeah, yeah, especially if I got you right in the face. Yeah, like wearing the nuts. Yeah, they no, they just literally had like boxing gear. Dude, if that hits me in the nose, that's

50:44 just kind of hurt. Oh we break your nose? Yeah. Um. Syringes syringes, Yeah, I'll give it, you know to two point eight syringes, a couple of ccs. I remember growing up really liking American gladiators in this, you know, if you like American gladiators, Yeah, I might creep up to a three? Is it the rates? Doc? Ever? Probably not, because there's not that much stuff. You know, there's a bunch of like little funny things, but there's nothing like nothing like hit the soul necessarily. I don't think Nitro's story a little bit. That was kind of sad. It was it was tapped in a little bit. But you know, like, I guess I believe it because I believe his mom's story for sure. Yeah, I believe that. That the incredibly um sad story of his dad ripping his kids away from his mom and then the brother dying. The other story with Laser and his dad was interesting too, Yeah, where his dad never really know how to express his love form. That got me a little. That story was hugged a little bit. That story was like that little piece was nice, but all those arely Yeah, they're like thirty second pieces. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well watch the season two of The Bear because that's all about people who don't know how to give and receive love. The Restaurant Show, Yeah, there's already second season. Yeah, yeah, Sexy. They dropped all all ten episodes at once too, Hulu. I thought that show just came out. Now it's been a it's a pretty short interval between seasons one and two. But they but they but they shot season one kind of a long time ago and finally dropped it.

52:12 Yeah. See, I hear about it. I haven't watched. It's so good. Probably the best thing on TV I've seen this year. Yeah, really, really, really really funny serious both it's about a starting a restaurant. It's a comedy. Well, the first season was about the main character's brother having committed suicide and he owned this um Italian beef foodstand restaurant thing in Chicago and he was a like three star Michelin chef. And so he comes home because he's always had this stream of he wanted to work with his brother, and he wanted to open a restaurant with his brother, and his brother would never let him, and so he comes in and takes it over like he's inherited it from his brother, and then sort of all the trouble they have trying to keep it keep it going in the first season and then the second season. At the end of the first season, they come into some money I won't get into how and then because they decide they're going to close that restaurant and open the restaurant that he wanted to open with his brother, but they end up needing a whole lot more money for that to happen.

53:21 So this season is is them um tearing the old restaurant apart and building the new restaurant, building the menus, and then like um probably the best part of it is recognizing, Okay, this is the crew that I have, how do I maximize their skills to create success for everyone. There's some just really good episodes about about that. That sounds interesting. Yeah, sounds relatable Top of Ale in its own way. Yeah, episode six, You're gonna need some xanax for that, so I'll just tell you ahead of time, like, yeah, I feel family argument, giant Italian family arguments. That's my background. There you go, this trauma so warned. Yeah, um see, I due. Fuck man, I'd give it us a two five two two out of five. It was incredibly too long. Yeah, I think it could have could have been easily like a two hour hour and a half or three episode and I would have been better, But it still probably wouldn't have been like a over a three. Yeah, probably three and a half if the story just wasn't that. I don't know. I don't know what I expected. Maybe I just wasn't like a huge fan. Yeah, I think I was like five or ten years older and I watched it.

54:36 I still don't think so, you know, I don't know, because the documentary is just there's just too tidbitty, you know. There's a bunch of good tidbits, but there's no there's no meat. Yeah. Yeah, I would say two two and a half it. Um. It was confusingly edited at times because the animation was just unbearable. Yeah, the animation. The animation was funny, like that of South Park or something. I don't know, it just be it was just weird. It had an odd tone versus the rest of it, like an almost like an archie or something. I don't even know, but um, like they would be a scene that you think is going somewhere there. There's part of the conversation with Nitro about steroids is in the first episode or the second episode something like that. I think that the first episode was a pilot. Yeah, it says something about a pilot. Yeah, it wasn't even the it was called the pilot. I yeah, which maybe had two meanings, right, Maybe they talked about the pilot American Gladiator and it's the pilot for the documentary potentially, Yeah, because it's a little bit of an overview of everything, and so some of this stuff you've seen before. By the time it really comes around. When they filmed, they said they filmed the pilot and then it was so terrible.

55:45 They turned into a Sizzle Reel, and even though that's not what the studio wanted, they sent them to Sizzle Reel to try and sell the show because the other show was so bad and it just happened to work out. And then when they actually made it, yeah, it's not even looking like every game's different. Yeah, they just didn't use any ship and it was dangerous as fuck. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, if you were into it back then, you might get it, and it's just kind of something weird to be into though. It is. We had real sports going on at that time. Sports were bigger than ever. You got Jerry fucking Rice running around. Yeah, I'm watching that, yeah, Michael Jordan's yeah, yeah, yeah, he had real sugar. Ja's literally going crazy. Barry Sanders like, yeah, it was an epic era was Can Saco and then we're hitting bombs. Yeah, it's going crazy. Back in the seventies two, there was a show called ABC rerunt it called Superstars that was basically like athletes and celebrities competing together on teams. So it was like, you know, they weren't It wasn't athletes versus celebrities. It was like mix celebrities and and you know actors and nobody's and whatever, anybody they could get to do this show. It also seemed kind of dangerous, but like had had some very top athletes on, you know people and that, and it was the sort of the same era as the beginning of World Strongest Man. Yeah, I was gonna say a strong man literally, is that right? Yeah, it's essentially the same kind of thing that strong Man is what we need back.

57:06 The Strongman now are great, but we just need the random people doing random shit. Well what was that that show that those guys all did together? Yeah, I never watched it on History Channel. Yeah, that show's fucking awesome. Yeah, I know, I know, I want more of that. Yeah. I heard a lot of travel to do all those like like those leg Cherry Channel challenges. Yeah, yeah, I heard it was it was good and it seemed to be successful. Rob Orburst. Yeah, it's Rob and uh Nick Best Best Nick Best and the what's his name? The main like the big tall guy Brian show. Yeah, and they're travel around and it was a fucking that that is awesome show. Smart. They only did that a couple of seasons. Like that show was sick that's smart. Yeah, history channel might just be you know, it's cool because you like, that's a half I think that's a half appeal for me at least with strong Man is the history side of it, right, Like the stone that's in front of the one bar that everybody like, it's like a feat of strength if you lifted up onto the you know, the railing of the stat or whatever. Again, this is always there, you know, and it's like that kind of sh It's cool to me. Yeah, I agree.

58:05 So actually, getting back real quickly to magazine Dreams that Michael Hearne is in. The reason it keeps not coming out is that this main star of that is Jonathan Majors. Who's that Jonathan Majors is King the Conqueror. He was and he was the opponent in Creed three. Yeah, yeah, that's some allegations. Yes, yeah, domestic, Yeah, battery. Interesting, they always come for you, They wait for you to get up there, and they started trying to come for you. Doesn't matter then you have to be true. Yeah, that's the um. That's the attack that his attorneys are taking with the actual story is like after that happened, a bunch of people came out and said, yeah, I was on a show with him, he was a dick, but I'm being a dick and also or totally different than story though. Yeah, no, no it doesn't. It should always just be nice to people, as I always the answer. It's just like even you shouldn't do bad shit, but also just be nice to people.

58:58 Yeah, it's easy in case you used to be a shitty person, they can't say about that about you now. True, you can change, you can. Actually, that's a really good question to understand that. Why that's the case. Why people decide that it's okay to be a shitty person. I don't think they mean to or No, people just aren't stelf aware enough to know that how they speak to others. Well, you turn around and and there's nobody around you about made a good clue, Yeah, but double just blame others. Yeah, No one's going out of their way saying I'm gonna be a dick today. No one wakes up like that buying those actors do, maybe, but I think they they're just like they're just like peaked up, even these guys kind of where they're peaked up in their own way. Yeah, and everyone's sucking your dick all day everyways, and then you're gonna start bas some people around. Yep, that's fair. I guess I don't know. I just never never understood doning it, but it is something I don't ever want to have to deal with. Ye I wish I could say I've never done with it anyway? Dean where people can find me?

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