Real talk: Are you too injured to lift in your meet?

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So you got a broken neck back, but they're all attached. Yeah,

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same thing. My neck was an
issue before, and that's what people like

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still think it is. Is it
because you have an extra large head?

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Near? Did you bring that up
to the PT? My head is not

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big. You should want your head
to be big, because like that's actually

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y'all know, actually like pictures and
in in TV movies, it's the people

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with the great big head's attractive.
Yeah, you actually have a tiny head.

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That's weird, kind of pebble head. That's okay with me. I

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don't want a big head, but
no, that's not the problem. My

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neck is still whatever. It's not
perfect, but it's my back, my

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lower back, my lumbar, and
I don't know exactly what it is.

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They don't know exactly what it is. I have an appointment after this for

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the doctor to check to see if
he wants to give me an MRI.

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My spine looks normal, but yeah, I had an X ray, you

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know. PCT primary care physician referred
me to a sports medicine doctor. Had

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two sessions with her over the course
of three weeks, and then when it

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didn't get better the second session,
she just told me I need to stop

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squatting and deadlifting until it gets better
and then slowly start incorporating weights again.

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And I'm like, okay, well
that doesn't even align with what I know

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about physical therapy because I've met with
the physical therapist before who know lifting like

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Emily, and yeah, you should
be going through movements as specific as possible

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without irritating it. And you know, I don't want to speak too much

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of it because I don't study this
stuff. And then all the credentials,

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but that's just not doing anything.
And just like she's given me these little

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tiny like yoga old people stretched stuff, it's not gonna you're covering your ass

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because you don't want just a safer
out. Yeah, prescribe me anything more,

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any more vigorous or more specific.
It's I don't If I don't do

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anything, I don't get worse,
right, probably you know chances are yeah

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so but true. Yeah, but
you ain't gonna get better either. A

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whole bunch of bags of why I
want to chat today, like one,

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what physical therapy looks like and taking
care of yourself as a competitive lifter,

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but two, maybe more importantly,
I guess like the dark side of competing

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uh, and how a lot of
people and you're you're pretty open with it

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and do it in a deep pitching
because there's there's definitely like a powerlifting culture

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where people are just bitching about their
pains all the time, right, like

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they walk into the gym, or
maybe you're even at lunch with a powerlifting

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friend you say, hey, how
are you doing? Like wow, my

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hamstring and my shoulder, and like
no one asked where I was asking how

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your day was going, and well
I had RPE three and I So there's

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that person that's always talking about their
pains. But then at a higher level,

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often people are faking it ignoring it, which I think is twofold.

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One is maybe a little bit of
image stuff to on the online persona to

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look invincible. But then the positive
or I think what might be for a

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lot of people is is you can't
in pain all the time, because then

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you're gonna be in pain all the
time, right, Like some of it's

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a mental establishment to tell yourself I'm
gonna be fine, I'm gonna be healthy,

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so then you act like you're finding
healthy as a recovery. And I

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do think there's merit in that as
well, because if you wake up every

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day like all by yourself, you're
wincing, you're probably gonna be in pain

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more right, So if you try
act normal, you try to tell yourself

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internally, I'm gonna better, I'm
gonna get healthy, I'm gonna better,

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I'm gonna be healthy, chances are
that path is going to be there more

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likely. It's almost like a manifestation
for sure. And and just yeah,

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right, if I'm always focused on
my knee because my knee hurts and I'm

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staring at it all day, it's
gonna hurt. But if you start to

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walk and do shit, you're gonna
treat it like right and full that the

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elite athletes have to kind of ignore
their stuff for their own mental sake,

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for competitiveness. And then some of
it is the game mean ship? What

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makes you more open about it or
not care about the game mean ship?

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I guess it doesn't really change if
I was completely healthy, like I understand,

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there are numbers games to play,
But if someone else is stronger than

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me, no matter like what I'm
doing, whether I'm hurt or whether I'm

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like the healthiest and strong, if
I have the strongest I've ever been and

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someone will someone is stronger than me, what am I going to do there

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any differently when the when the day
comes, Like I just I don't know.

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It's always something that I've I guess
that's the mentality I've had going into

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meets and viewing my competition in general. It's that like this strength takes time

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to build and it has to show
up on the platform legally, as in

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like making sure you're hitting depth,
all those things. But a lot of

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the times, if someone else is
succeeding, like that doesn't really change how

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I'm approaching my training because I'm always
gonna going to try my hardest. I'm

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always going to do my best,
my best foot forward. If I see

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someone else, you know, not
that they don't inspire me or motivate me,

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but like I'm already doing my best, and so whether someone else is

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doing better than me or worse I'm
it doesn't change. Yeah, they're trying

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to game a game that's just not
there. And I don't really know when

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that became a thing because I've always
thought similar to you, And that's why

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I don't love competing in power lifting. But like like basketball, right if

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you're in the playoffs and you scout
a team, and I know sebos is

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left hands hurting. He hurt his
wrist in basketball. I'm gonna force him

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to dribble with his left hand.
I'm not gonna. I'm gonna not gonna

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go slap his left hand like there's
lines to it. But if I know

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he's got his left hand or his
left ankle is a little weird, or

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we're playing volleyball and we know that, you know the left setters got a

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busted wrist, I'm fucking launching the
ball at her face all day long.

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And I like that game and Ship. I enjoy that, or even if

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they're not injured, I just know
Stebouts can't dribble well with his left hand.

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I like being able to be tactical
and attack weak points. Powerlifting there's

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no such thing. Yeah, what
are you gonna do, like add fifty

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more pounds onto your squat? If
someone else did, like this is lame.

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They go in the back room and
be like, heyev, you hope

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your back doesn't hurt. Like you
could play games like that, and that

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is a thing, And I enjoy
some of that game and Ship too,

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But in powerlifting, it's like actually
hurt. It's actually dangerous, so I

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don't really do it. But basketball
I might do it, you know,

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like I know he again sea basses. My example of my ship talk really

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bad shooting day the day before,
I'd maybe walk by and say something like,

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man, hope those shots drop the
day, you know, like just

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make up start think about how we
shooting get in their heads. Yeah.

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I like that, I really do. But in powerlifting, for some reason,

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I don't like it, just because
we we are all kind of doing

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the same thing. Like you said, Like, I don't want to beat

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someone because they in powerlifting because they
have a hurt ankle. I don't want

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to beat someone in powerlet thing because
they got the flu. I want to

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beat someone because my total out total, they're total, they're best total,

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they're best that they're healthiest, which
like is that otherwise there's always an asterisk.

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Yeah that sucks, right, And
it's like I already know that,

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and I believe the same thing too
if I would to if I were going

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head to head against someone and they
weren't feeling their best or something happened and

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I'm like why no, Yeah,
it's like okay, but it doesn't feel

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good, and it's like, yeah, on game day. You know you

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did show up and you know you
didn't have those situations, so it's okay

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to give yourself credit. But it's
like, yes, but I wanted to

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compete against this person, like to
the best of our both abilities. And

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so there's this competitive side that showed
up this time around with this injury and

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this nationals that I usually don't have, which, like I was talking,

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maybe I shouldn't say this, I
don't know, but I was talking to

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a friend about this, and I'm
like, there are just some competitors that

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I have going into this meat that
I know I can beat, but they

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are like it's it's maybe like two
of them that having mind and I know

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I could, I know, I
can know I can, you know,

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like place higher than them. But
if I don't compete at this meet,

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they're gonna place one place higher than
they would have if I did, right,

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And I'm just like, I don't
want them to think they're better than

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me. I don't want them to
get the chance the satisfaction of even like

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I did place higher technically, even
though maybe in the back of their head

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as good competitors, they might be
like, you know, but I know

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she wasn't she wasn't there. They're
gonna think that at first a little bit,

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and then that part's gonna fade and
whatever. Yeah, they're gonna for

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the rest of their lives marvel in
that. And I'm just like and then

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my friend was like, you know, it's it's true. It might be

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true, it might happen, but
there's so much time for you to prove

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to them by so much, like
how much more, how much better you

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are? And I'm like, I
understand that too, So I guess the

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part that bothers me is like I
just needed to stay down. I don't

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know, I don't know why.
I don't know where that came from,

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but it's it's it's actually kind of
relieving though, because I I am not

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a competitive person if I am beating, so I just heard something different.

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I know, I know, but
that's what I mean. Like, typically,

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I like to stay humble because I
know, like if I'm at the

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top, I will when I do
lose. I don't want egg in my

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face. I don't like that feeling
of like in your face, I beat

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you. Next time it's like someone
else beats me and I'm like, okay,

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what I can't talk anymore to cover
my face. It's kind of like

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embarrassing. I kind of rubbed it
in their face last time and now I

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lost, so like, I don't
like that, But in this case,

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I'm just like, man, I
don't want them to think they're better than

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me. What do you think?
Because obviously you can compete and be in

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you know, nine out of ten
shape, But what do you think of

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the top ten? I just made
that number up, but top ten,

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how many do you think are feeling
beat up or dealing with shit? Oh?

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Man, it's it's definitely like maybe
fifty percent or more, you know,

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like and I would say sixty seventy. I have something that's pissing them

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off. I've never done a meat
that something wasn't pissing me off. There's

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is okay when you say something's pissing
you off, like a bump shoulder that

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made me adjust my training, like
something and something's happening to my body that

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I couldn't train exactly how I wanted
to physically, Like yeah, physical physically

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physically pain or injury or something uncomfortable. So that's the difference. Especially like

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any even people getting ready for local
meats, they will start to get like

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as they're fatigue and uncomfort or tired
or weak things. Yeah, not such

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a show. Not that I mean
like something so bad that happened for weeks

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that I have to adjust my training
and those things do happen. The one

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that I don't like or is where
people complain about like there there are technically

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healthy, it's just things aren't moving
the way they want to right They feel

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entitled. They feel entitled to the
certain weight that they should be lifting,

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or it's like not as close to
their prs as they expected, so they're

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like this is okay. I'm like, yeah, are you kidding me?

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Like it's part of the process.
It's moved, well you should like what

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do you? I don't know.
That's that's the entitlement that comes through with

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like even when people are injured,
like if you have a really I don't

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know. It changes depending on situation, but there is some level of entitlement

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sometimes when it comes to like being
injured or just the situation they're in going

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into a meet and they're upset.
It's like you just feel entitled to be

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able to live more than you can
right now. Who says you need to

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be or lack of perspective, right, because yeah, if you're in a

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high fatigue state and you're in the
middle of a taper, yeah, five

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hundred's gonna move like five twenty.
But that's kind of the goal because and

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hopefully we take some fatigue away and
then you move faster on the game day.

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Yeah, So people get in their
heads a lot. They just don't

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know. Yeah, there are definitely
more people probably injured and stuff, And

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I understand people hiding their injuries and
whatnot, things that aren't going right.

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But I don't really care. You
could do whatever you want with my information.

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I'll share it, like just because
I'm pretty open and I try to

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like it's a fine line between whining
and complaining and then sharing your journey as

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well. Yeah, and I posted
a story yesterday talking about like, you

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know, I'm slowly coming back a
little bit, but I've also posted some

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stories about wanting to quit, and
like those are real and it's very like

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it's deeply emotional and it's a it's
a big struggle, you know. It's

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like whatever I do share, there's
more going on underneath it. But I

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share these not expecting sub not that
I don't expect support, but more people

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responded and shared their stories and showed
their support more than I than I thought,

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and they enjoy and like the transparency
and they think it's inspirational or motivational

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and always catches me up guard.
I'm like, oh, I okay,

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I could see that. I just
didn't. I didn't post this with the

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intent like, you know what,
I'm inspire some people sent today something they

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feel alone. Yeah, but I
don't. I'm not doing it to paint

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this picture like oh, I'm I'm
an inspiring person. I'm just telling you

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my journey and like, oh,
I look back and people are inspired or

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motivated. I'm like, oh,
okay, I could see that. The

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whole part of the journey is in
upwards, sadly right. And I threw

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that disclaimer in there as well,
and I'm like, I'm trying to make

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sure I'm not like, you know, I went against what my PT said

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and I'm feeling better and then maybe
next day I'm like, oh, actually

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it got worse, you know,
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So all these disclaimers like I'm not
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recommendation and I'm not expecting this to
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you know. So I think that
when you when it as an athlete,

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I'm Bunny ears Share. I think
that when you deal with medical professionals to

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educate them on I did, like
where you are and what your support looks

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like, and what and what your
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They're only they see you, you
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when you're you know, at your
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with gen pop, which gen pop
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of the time they're dealing with with
people who have injuries that came from not

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ever doing anything, you know,
from being yeah, from not being active,

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from not being active, So they
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have that background themselves, right,
which is really disappointing. And I was

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like, she should feel disappointed as
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age, and she's not an old
person. So it's like, you have

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no excuse really to tell me to
like not do those movements anymore. It's

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like you didn't even ask what movements
hurt? What kind of pain is it?

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Is it? You know, It's
why you didn't ask about me being

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able to goblet squat but not being
able to backsquat without any discomfort. Yeah,

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and that should be a differentiation that
like means something. It's like,

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Okay, maybe you can continue to
do these squatting movements if you know,

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goblet squats don't hurt, they don't
recret the pain. But you don't want

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to detrain because you are competitive athletes
four weeks out from a national competition,

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and I do want you in your
best shape. Like didn't consider or mention

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any of those things. Is extreme
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even compared to like a pro soccer
player, you know they're not going to

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be squatting triple body weight, although
obviously they train very hard and have other

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issues. I do wonder what the
medical school or background looks like when something

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becomes sports med. Right, that's
a good question, right, like a

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PT than a sports You would think
the sports PT would start to talk about

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like posterior anterior loading. Yeah and
understand versus Yeah, regular PT that's doing

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like they do just need to be
pain free because they gotta go bring their

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kid to kindergarten. I understand that
here at Sacramento, we do have some

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you know, sports medicine deal with
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but even some of the some of
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people have like worked with basketball players
and said the same thing, like,

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oh, throw throw it up an
elevation, rest it ice it. Yeah,

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you know you need to apply some
resistance if it's your ankle or something

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even like a light resistance band with
like obviously depending on the injury. Yeah,

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broken bones are different, but light
strains, most tight muscles, most

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spasms. Yeah, we need some
blood flow. Right, There's there's a

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fine line between you know, pushing
and and when you talk about these things,

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people who don't understand, like haven't
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what this weight means and what percentages. Right. So yeah, she accused

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me of saying that I told her
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I'm like, that doesn't even make
sense because if you understood the gym ten

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pounds, so like that's not if
you knew what that plate looked like,

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you're like, well, that's probably
not hurting her, not even lifting it.

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And yeah, and I'm like the
bar itself is forty five pounds,

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but yeah, I just it was
a little disappointing, and I initially wasn't

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was expecting that response from my primary
care physician, but I was. I

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was given some hope when she referred
me to the sports medicine doctor, who

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I've never met with one before,
so I was exciting. And then she

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does this, Okay, And that's
the whole other issue, right, is

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that the medical systems set up that
through your insurance, you have to go

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through this system or through this company
or through this brand, and they may

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not have experts, you know,
like our friend Emily who understands lifting and

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understands loading. But then if she
doesn't working now, or your insurance is

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all fucked up, and yeah,
it doesn't work here. Yeah, and

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you can't blame Emily for making money, but your insurance isn't covering that.

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Yeah. And I ended up because
I've done probably three or four different rounds

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of of PT and I ended up
paying to go to a sports specific place

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out of pocket, which is which
is not cheap, which is not cheap,

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but like I don't ever have gotten
better, right, And it's it's

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worth it, you know, it's
the cost that you have to pay.

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But if you're an athlete, or
even like have a client who is a

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runner, she met with the runners
specialists to take a look at her knee

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and her anatomy or physiology whatever.
And that's something that a general you know,

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physical therapist at kaiser is not going
to help because like they don't understand

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the extremes of the sport that she
does, which is like runs like twelve

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to twenty miles you know in a
day type of thing. So I'm sure

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they would just tell her to stop
running too, right, Yeah, everyone

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would just say stop right, And
which is so short slided, yeah,

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and even running you even do long
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with your neck, which has gotten
better. The chances that it's actually the

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activity that you do is is so
low because we are actually doing a heavy

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squad session. Even you who's at
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bar like three minutes right, right, probably last most lifts are under eleven

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seconds, right, so eleven times
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you're doing a three by seven,
right, the chances that it's the bar's

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probably pretty low, Like there's a
chance. But bodybuilding and powerlifting statistically,

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all the data you want to look
at are the two, like safest sports

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on the planet. So chances are
that you're it's probably how you're sitting,

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probably how you're not moving, probably
your bed, probably all these other facts.

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You're laying in bed for eight hours. If that shit's fucked, that's

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probably what's fucking you up, right. Yeah, it's probably the same with

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the running, Like, yeah,
there's for sure such thing as stress fractures

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and repetitive injuries. Right, Golfers
get it, powerlifters get it. Runners

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get it. Because you're doing the
same motion over and over. There's a

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little dysfunction, whether it be in
your system or your body or your form

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there. Yeah okay, yeah,
yeah, it'll beat you down over time.

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But even that, like just stopping
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it because that dysfunction still is there. So then when you when you go

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back to do it in any form, it's gonna flare up. So say

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you're running ten miles a week,
when then you start walking five miles a

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week, that dysfunctions there, it's
going to get injured. Yeah, Like

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your your bike gear is broken,
you stop using it, Well, it

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doesn't mean it's not still broken.
Yeah, you just didn't notice it's broken.

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Because you didn't ride. Yeah,
you didn't fix the part that's broken.

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Yeah, it doesn't matter if you
pedal fast, pedal slow. Yeah.

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Maybe I should have given her that
analogy or something. But it's annoying

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when they I have this degree and
they're in this position working for this big,

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you know, hospital company, and
you're telling them like, I would

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try so hard to stay calm because
I don't want to seem like a impatient,

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frustrated, you know, patient of
hers that are just like, ah,

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she's young and eager to train,
and she's just she's kind of hopeless

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because she just wants to get back
in the gym because she thinks at her

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age, it's the whole like it's
a whole world. Yeah, and that's

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I feel like it's it could be
a little condescending. Well, you do

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wonder also because powerlifting isn't like known
or respected. If you were a gymnast

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going to nationals or the Olympics,
would this lady talk different? Oh?

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Absolutely not. I mean absolutely they
would talk different. They would because part

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of their charge is to make sure
that you're able to perform, not to

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not to try to intervene and try
to gate keep and say I would just

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you know, you should not do
this because you're you're fucking yourself up for

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life. It's like Olympic app for
life on the regular, you know,

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like all athletes. Yeah, I
mean, if you're at the highest level

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of anything, moderation or your body's
not going to be number one. You

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know, performance is number one.
Yeah. To run it back for a

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second, though, I'm wondering,
like, what would it look like from

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a competitive standpoint if you injured,
but you put out on social that you

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were particularly like your squad or whatever, and so you put your in your

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opener, something relatively low and conservative
or whatever, and then you know you

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can take a big jump on your
second so all your competitors have have clocked

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your first your first weight, stomp
on them. That is the numbers game

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that people play at more competitive meets, which like, you're no one's really

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doing that at a local meat there's
kind of no reason to. But that's

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something like as you get closer to
a meet, if you are in that

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top like in the running for top
five or something. On podium, people

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will hide their training, like they
will only post their last warm ups and

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not their top sets, so that
their competition doesn't know what to like kind

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of look for, because when you
do get to that top five, like

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your numbers might be actually very close
to your competitors in certain lifts. So

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I don't know. At the end
of the day, right, it's just

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like I'm going to perform as best
as I could, and then my handler

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and a coach they're going to do
the numbers game that I'm not going to

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worry about. They're going to play
chess. Well, going back to the

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thing we're talking about, they're not
even playing chess, they're playing checkers.

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Because if you literally need four fifty
pull to win, well, there's you're

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not gonna pull four fifty. There's
there's a false attempt thing where you forced

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the hand for sure, for sure, and you move them up. But

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even still, you know what I
mean, Like, truly, how you

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win meets is lifting the most weight
and you cannot trick yourself to lift more

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weight. Yeah, you know what
I mean Again, Like, but I

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can out strategize, and volleyball can
force seabasts to shoot the ball when he's

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had a bad streak. You can
read these other things and other sports powerlifting,

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yeah, you can, Like that's
still just a mind game. You

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can play mind games, but you
can't out trick somebody. And there isn't

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a really good way to be sure
that they're going to do what you want

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them to do in response to you
know what you threw out there as an

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illusion as you can't even guarantee you're
going to do what you want to do,

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not exactly exact, but it gives
you that chance. It does.

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And I am defending or I'm thinking
about the Arnold because it's essentially what happened.

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Yeah, yeah to me, Yeah, you're a little bit neconnec.

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Yeah I was neconne last lift,
but our lot numbers like allowed me to

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go after she didn't. So that
would imagine you had to pull your best

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pulls in meets four thirty. Well, then we wouldn't play the game,

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I know, but you know what
I know, But some people still do.

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Yeah, because because you know ten
twenty thirty pounds, you don't always

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know exactly where strength is right,
strength is in a bull's eye that we

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can visually know. We know you're
in a range pull four twenty to four

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fifty today, but say you had
to pull four fifty five or four sixty

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to win the stronger person wins.
Yeah, you're taking the risk. Yeah,

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the stronger person just wins. But
then what if I'm there's a flaw

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in my character as an athlete,
and they know that I am just highly

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competitive, and I instead of letting
my coaches handle this stuff, I'm like,

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no, do it, Like whatever
it is I need to pull.

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Yeah, like fuck it, I'm
gonna you know, goes bassa wall and

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like low whatever gives me the chance
to win. And you know some people

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are like that for sure, and
some people convince themselves enough to like end

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up pulling it off. You can
get gas, you can definitely get gass.

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Yeah, but like, but it's
just such a smaller range, you

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know. Yeah, it's very very
like like tiny, Like if you if

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we ran one hundred of those meats
or those scenarios you versus I don't even

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who whoever it was. Let's just
say though, so you we run a

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hundred of those and like fifty of
them were with coaches games and fifty of

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them worthout coaches games. The percent
that you win it is still it's yeah,

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yeah, that's my point. She
I think she's stronger than me,

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though, But that's all just my
point, whereas if you run think in

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that way, that's a good thing
to think. If you run Lakers versus

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Celtics nineteen eighty eight back to back
one hundred times, and each game you

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have a different coach leading the way, the variance is yeah, right,

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what you rip out pat Riley from
some of them and throwing me and Sea

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Bass, We're gonna lose more games. I don't know. Yeah, I'm

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already looking your hair back. Well, my basketball IQ was pretty good,

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but that was a bad example.
But you're throw in some shit or you

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know, it's because there's just more
to manipulate, right, Yeah, with

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paralletting, there isn't much room.
You can't out trick that. You can't

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out trick gravity, right, you
can only do your best just sniff ammonia.

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There are statistics about like the difference
that coach is making different professional sports,

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like which one of them has the
most I forgot. I think we

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even talked about it. I think
I think we've talked about it before.

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The NFL was pretty high, Yeah, was pretty high, and which is

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like noticeable, like their coach the
movement in the NFL of offensive, defensive

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and lead coaches get traded all the
time or they're fired all the time,

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you know, which is crazy.
And you see the team's performance, like

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I guess if you follow a coach
and you follow how their team does,

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is it fairly like consistent? Yeah, like the best coaches have had success

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on many different teams. I think
that's really cool. Yeah, we're in

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powerlifting. You can't always show that, right, Like you have a shitty

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coach, yeah, and the strongest
lifter ever. Yeah, or the opposite,

406
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:33.880
you could have the best coach and
a shitty lifter ever, and yeah,

407
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.279
the coaches be able to talk about
that all the time. So I

408
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:40.680
don't know, sometime coaches take too
much credit. I think that's very common.

409
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:42.960
That is very common and all sports. But but even in power lifting,

410
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:47.480
because there's so much on the individual
and team sports, the coach really

411
00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:53.319
can strategize because like there's so many
pieces, so many players. Like you,

412
00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:56.720
we go on a group road trip
and like everyone's heads cut off,

413
00:26:56.839 --> 00:27:00.359
you know, like you can't even
control that situation. So like imagine having

414
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.440
eleven twelve people on feel or core
whatever. Yeah, there's a lot more

415
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.759
skill to it. Yeah, yeah, I think NFL was near the top,

416
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:11.160
But I forgot college football, Yeah, apparently like number one. Yeah,

417
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:14.400
yeah, I mean, but that's
hard too because that has I guess

418
00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:17.880
both of them do have a factor
when you go to professional sports or college.

419
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:22.839
Recruiting is a piece of coaching.
So part of college being so impactful

420
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:25.599
is that the best recruiters and the
history of the game is you know,

421
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:30.400
Nick Saban in Alabama for example,
they have such a history that everyone wants

422
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.759
to go play for them, So
of course you're getting the best crop,

423
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.079
and then maybe you're a really good
coach. So the question is more in

424
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.079
game, yeah, which you can't
isolate because even at the professional level,

425
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:45.119
there's recruiting, there's contracts. Powerlifting
is actually one of the better examples because

426
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.160
it's all amateur and that it's you're
choosing your coach. Yeah, right,

427
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:52.240
Like yeah, it's kind of an
interesting play because yeah, there's always recruiting,

428
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:56.319
and there's always politics, there's always
money. I don't under see if

429
00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:00.799
I can find any kind of definitives
before other than college. I remember seeing

430
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.000
data and I think it was college
than NFL, than NBA, then maybe

431
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:07.319
MB. I don't know if they
talked about the MLS. Team sports,

432
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:10.119
yeah, team sports, Yeah,
it's because it's hard with individual sports.

433
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:12.279
Individual. Yeah, individual, it's
just I think it's on the person.

434
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.000
I think it's more on the individual. Yeah, genetics, but also like

435
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.599
you know, their mindset and how
they train and like their constance. Look

436
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:21.920
at the Olympics sports, you know, you're like, what's the ship where

437
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:23.880
you ski and then you shoot some
shit and then you ski again? What

438
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:30.319
you never seen that? You've seen
that whatever by athl Yeah, yeah,

439
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.359
so you never seen that in the
winter sports? You go skiing and they

440
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:34.440
got to shoot like a bunch of
targets that you get a ski again,

441
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:38.200
You've never been by Athlone curious?
Are you? Are you serious? Yeah?

442
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.480
But the thing but the point is
when we're talking about that, which

443
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:45.680
I've watched, not I'm not a
fucking fan, but I've seen it,

444
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.599
they're not like, oh my god, she comes from the regime of coach

445
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:55.559
Smith and he's winning all the by
path the bi partisan ski events. You

446
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:59.920
know, Okay, they're talking about
that. They're saying like, why,

447
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:03.440
wow, she can ski real fast? Right, because only it's a an

448
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.880
individual sport. But if you go
to watch basketball in the Olympics, you're

449
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:12.240
like, oh, Kobe Bryant's leading
team America. He's with his favorite coach,

450
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:15.480
pat Riley right now, right,
you know? And oh the yeah

451
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:18.880
USA teams led by blah blah blah, that's why they've had a lot of

452
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:23.799
success lately. And I like that, and especially now with these bigger teams

453
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:30.200
of power lifting coaches. I like
that I have a low key coach because

454
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.960
it's almost like me making a statement
like you don't need the best coach in

455
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:40.559
the world, you want to do
better or are your best coaches' Oh yeah,

456
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:41.640
yeah, yeah, that's exactly what
I'm saying. But he's not.

457
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.400
And he knows that too, because
like it's just it's not his thing.

458
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:47.559
He's a he's a pharmacist. But
either way, he's a great coach.

459
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:51.240
He's super knowledge. But the best
coach isn't the one with the most athletes.

460
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:52.319
It isn't the one most well known. It isn't the one with the

461
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:56.799
strongest athletes, right right, Like
I think I could if I went all

462
00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:00.440
in, I could be a top
easily right now, but I just don't

463
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.079
have the time, and then it
would depend on the amount of athletes I

464
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:07.400
got that made me look good,
right yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

465
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:10.359
It's like who do you who can
you get on? And then how

466
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:14.559
do I market that? Like even
still I'm probably in the in the you

467
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:17.640
know, coin flip of top ten, who has like the most world records

468
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:19.000
as a coach. You know,
I have like two or three under my

469
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:22.519
belt. But it's how I market
that. And I'm not posting on Instagram

470
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:27.880
every day reposting my lifters breaking world
records saying like this is what we did

471
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:30.720
for that. You know. It's
all how you market too, Yeah,

472
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.480
and I'm not doing that anyway.
Like, no, no matter what athlete

473
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.160
I have, if they like,
you know, I never once said we

474
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.759
squad, I would just yeah,
I would just tell him because I would

475
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.160
die. What do you mean?
Wait? If I tried to squad eight

476
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.640
oh five, my athlete squad at
eight five, you know what I mean?

477
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.559
But they say we it wasn't a
tandem lift. Yeah, I don't

478
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:53.079
like. Yeah, I don't.
I don't like that phrase. And like

479
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:57.200
if I if my athlete does very
sex is a very successful athlete, I

480
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.200
would just think, Okay, I'm
not a bad that's what the imposter.

481
00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:04.319
It's like, Damn, I'm not
I'm not bad, right, that's kind

482
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:07.319
of all you have to be as
a coach. Yeah, you have to

483
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:10.680
not be bad. You have to
allow them to be good enough to do

484
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:12.839
what they need to do, and
you have to not destroy their love of

485
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:15.480
the support and the process of coach
or they're back, make sure that they're

486
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.960
still enjoying it. There's there's a
lot to it, for sure, But

487
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:23.039
I'm I'm not the best coach out
there. It's and and you don't need

488
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.680
the best. You're the best coaching
here here. Yeah. Well yeah,

489
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:33.319
well Mike, he's not coaching tired, old and so what do you got

490
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:40.519
three weeks? Yeah, four weeks, three, four, fourteenth, fourteen?

491
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:44.640
What days today? Eighteen? A
little bit less than four weeks?

492
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:51.440
Yeah, yeah, needless to say, I'm not ready. Whoever is you?

493
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:53.119
Squad? A little bit away yesterday, Yeah, a little bit,

494
00:31:53.359 --> 00:32:00.839
a little bit seventy kilos on Sunday
and then one oh five kilos yesterday.

495
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:04.640
Yea. And Dad lived around the
same, yeah, dead around the same.

496
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:08.480
Every Dave is around like one ten, one fifteen. Ye. But

497
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:10.960
all this kind of came up in
a week or two, so the chances

498
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.960
are I could probably go away or
a week or two. Yeah, people

499
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:15.960
are saying like, I'm gonna watch
you last dream shave for you. You're

500
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:19.799
gonna be back like you're gonna hit
prs like you never know I could.

501
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.119
I'm like, damn good, where'd
you get that? Where'd you? Who'd

502
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:25.079
you get that hope from? It
is possible, though, and where can

503
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:30.240
I find some? Because I don't
happen? It is better. I am

504
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.240
a little more hopeful. And what
sucks. I keep telling people of this

505
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:36.640
when when you get injured, it's
the hardest part is coming in and like

506
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:40.000
having the hope. And I will
say I didn't have any. I honestly

507
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:43.839
came in and trained because I felt
like when I have no option too.

508
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.799
It's a habit. I've done it
for so long I got I'm gonna do

509
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:50.960
it like I don't want to.
It's not because I'm still motivated and I'm

510
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:54.160
so dedicated to the sport and the
love for it is just undying, Like

511
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:58.640
no, that's not I lost that
for a second. Okay, And it

512
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.960
happens, and it's sometimes like it
we really was just the routine of it

513
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:05.960
that kept me in here. Some
people like to say, like, yeah,

514
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:07.920
I was just so in love with
this ship that I didn't let that

515
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:12.759
stop me from well did for me, and that's not the case for everyone.

516
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.240
But I want to make that transparent
as well. Yeah, zelatry at

517
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:20.599
the beginning is easy, but it's
hard. Mm. Yeah, it's definitely.

518
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.240
I don't know. At this point, it's just to continue doing what

519
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:28.599
I've been doing, no matter if
I'm failing or whatever. The waves tides

520
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:36.440
are going to set myself up to
give myself the best chance day of Yeah,

521
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:37.960
you know, that's what you can
do. That's really and if it

522
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:40.279
goes great, awesome. If it
goes bad, awesome, there's another meat

523
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:45.480
down the future. Yeah, more
meats to be had, exactly, And

524
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.599
I just to prove myself on the
next one at least if I do bad

525
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:51.559
on this one, I'll get people's
hopes down and then I'll like get out

526
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.319
of the spotlight and then I won't
feel a pressure managing expectations. Yes,

527
00:33:54.359 --> 00:34:00.079
that's going all the way to Tennessee
to manage Yeah, if I honestly like,

528
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.759
if I don't, if I can't
do anything, really, I figured

529
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:06.400
I wouldn't. At first. I
was like, yeah, I'll go through

530
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:08.480
the movements and do whatever I can't, But I realized, No, why

531
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:12.679
why I put that on the record
when I know I wasn't gonna be able

532
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.599
to do anything at least feel like
a seven out of ten to compete,

533
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:20.519
right, Yeah, I think that's
how I'm going to play because even in

534
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:22.960
the gym, right, you don't
know until you load the bar, right,

535
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:27.239
and for you, even on game
day, you won't know until you

536
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:29.800
you'll know if you're in the pocket, if you're in the pocket, Yeah,

537
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:31.840
you don't know if it's a pr
day or an okay day. You'll

538
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:35.440
know if it's a bad day.
But yeah, it's hard to predict the

539
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.559
future, you know, in the
warm ups and you know even more,

540
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.360
Yeah, you kind of got to
get the first attempt if I'm doing what

541
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:42.800
I'm doing today, Like, if
that's what's gonna happen on meat Dame,

542
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.519
I'd rather not and not because I'm
like, oh, she just didn't want

543
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:46.679
to lose. You quit. It's
like you could decide that if you want

544
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:49.760
to. But it's like, why
am I going to put that on the

545
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:51.679
record, Like what is that going
to do for me? Yeah? Really

546
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:53.280
nothing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you can't squat above seventy percent,

547
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:59.800
I'm gonna just go halp On and
eat Memphis Barbecue's it Vinegary? Is

548
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.360
that their deal? Or is that
Kansas? Because it's Memphis, South Carolina?

549
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:07.280
Memphis, South Carolina? Yeah,
South carolinatle Bit and then Texas Barbecue.

550
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:12.199
Those are like the hubs. Yeah, I don't know what makes Memphis

551
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.480
maybe more rub less liquid. I
didn't. There are like minor differences.

552
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:21.440
I was not totally born, like
sweet versus where'd you go Terry Blacks?

553
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:23.400
You didn't like it? I didn't. It's I didn't say I didn't like

554
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:28.639
it. I just wasn't away.
I think when you're from California, it's

555
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:30.199
a little different. I guess,
well, because we have a good food.

556
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:35.000
If you're if you're from Michigan,
yeah, you're not having the Mexican

557
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:38.159
food, Asian food, the barbecue
that we have in California more special.

558
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:42.679
It's gonna blow your brains. And
you're also world traveled. Yeah, so

559
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:45.760
you've had food from a lot of
good sports. Yeah. So if you

560
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:47.960
if you just if you grew up
and hang out in Wisconsin, yeah,

561
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:51.840
you know, and then you go
have like real barbecue or even even other

562
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:53.559
places you know, like yeah,
and you don't have like good ass Italian

563
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:59.239
food, but California, you're pretty
spoiled. Literally, the best Austin was

564
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:02.280
the place that I the discotta tacos
so so good. And then yeah,

565
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:07.119
soumich depends on the spot, right, yeah for sure? All right,

566
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:08.480
we'll let you get to the docs
appointment. Where can people find you?

567
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